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The Giant
2004-08-09, 12:13 PM
New contest! This time, you will be creating a list of related spells, ala the Bigby's Hand spells, or the invisibility spells. Here's the rules:

*1.) You will be creating at least 4 spells. For sorcerer/wizard, cleric, or druid spell lists, create one each of the following:
one 0th, 1st, or 2nd level spell
one 3rd or 4th level spell
one 5th, 6th, or 7th level spell
one 8th or 9th level spell

For bard spell lists, use this pattern:
one 0th, 1st, or 2nd level spell
one 3rd or 4th level spell
one 5th or 6th level spell
one spell of any level of your choice.

For ranger, paladin, or assassin spell lists, create one spell for each level (1st through 4th).

1a.) You may create more spells if you wish, but no more than one per spell level (10 total for sor/wiz, cleric, or druid).

2.) All spells created must be thematically linked. The theme is up to you, but it must be clearly stated at the start of your entry post. For example, if Bigby was entering, he might start his post with:

Bigby's Spells
Theme: Hands
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Stating that all spells were created by the same wizard is not enough of a theme; they should all relate to the same type of object, person, place, effect, motif, etc. Feel free to include flavor text for how the spells were created and for what purpose.

3.) Keep all spells listed for one core spell list only: assassin, bard, cleric, druid, paladin, ranger, sorcerer/wizard. While it is likely that spells would overlap in actual game play, this will help with the categories. If you wish, you can include in parenthesis alternate lists the spell might appear on, such as "Druid 2 (Ranger 3)." This spell would be entered as a druid spell, but in a real game would actually be also on the Ranger list. No Psionic powers, please.
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4.) Spells should be for D&D only, and not specific to Forgotten Realms or Eberron. Try to avoid referencing non-core books if possible, but do what you have to do.
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5.) Each new set of spells should be started on a new thread here on the Contests board, dedicated to just that set of spells and the discussion of it. Put the tag [Spell Theme] in front of the title of that thread. Any thread without this tag will not be officially entered.
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6.) Post on this thread to let the mods know that you have entered a list of spells. We'll try to keep a post with all the entries listed in one place for easy reference.
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7.) The contest begins today, August 9th. All entries may be altered and revised up until the deadline, September 2nd; you may even add additional spells to your set. On September 2nd, we will lock all entry threads temporarily for the voting period (details of which will be announced at that time). *
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8.) Categories of voting and judgement will include the following:
Best Sorcerer/Wizard Spells (mechanics and flavor)
Best Cleric Spells (mechanics and flavor)
Best Druid Spells (mechanics and flavor)
Best Bard Spells (mechanics and flavor)
Best Paladin/Ranger/Assassin/Other Spells (mechanics and flavor)
Funniest Spells
Best Exploration of a Theme
The "I Want That Spell!" Award (The single spell you most would be interested in bringing into your campaign immediately; for this award, just choose ONE spell from someone's list to vote for.)
Website Staff Award (this will not be voted on by the general public, but judged by Amber, the Mods, and I).
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9.) All winners will receive a custom title for the months of September and October, so they can gloat. The last three awards, Best Theme, "I Want That Spell!" and the Website Staff Award, will have their spells preserved forever on the Function page of the main website, complete with an author credit. (Note that this will require you to resubmit the class as Open Game Content to us, and may be declined if you'd rather not.)
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Use this thread for both questions and to alert us to any entries. Let the contest begin!!!

Zherog
2004-08-09, 12:59 PM
5.) Each new set of spells should be started on a new thread here on the Features board, dedicated to just that set of spells and the discussion of it. Put the tag [Spell Theme] in front of the title of that thread. Any thread without this tag will not be officially entered.
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My guess is you probably wrote this post before you created the new "Contest" board. You'll probably wanna change the bolded part, though. ;)

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For those who enter - don't expect as much detailed feedback from me on this contest. Rating the power level of spells is far from my strong point. Hopefully somebody else has a good grasp on spell balance, though, and is willing to put in the work to review everything. :)

Zherog
2004-08-09, 02:40 PM
And a question that has just occurred to me. Will people be allowed to enter more than one chain of spells, or will it be one entry per person?

The Giant
2004-08-09, 03:28 PM
I'm going ot say one entry per person. If you have extra creativity to burn, write a full ten spells in the same post.

Grey Watcher
2004-08-09, 03:40 PM
Giant, to the best of my knowledge, Bards don't GET any 8th or 9th level spells. I've got a spell series idea (and trust me, this one will actually get posted), but it's very definitely a Bard's spell list. Should the last spell be something you only find on a scroll or what?

Geethree
2004-08-09, 03:45 PM
I'd also like to know what to do for Bard spells.

Starbuck_II
2004-08-09, 04:36 PM
Stating that all spells were created by the same wizard is not enough of a theme; they should all relate to the same type of object, person, place, effect, motif, etc. Feel free to include flavor text for how the spells were created and for what purpose.
So could force be a theme? Example all the spells have something to do with force. (Magic missile, Sheld, Wall of Force are examples of Force)

What you mean same type of person? Isn't that the same as same Wizard who created them?
Or is the meaning of person type like Human, Elf or Dwarf thingy?

Gorbash Kazdar
2004-08-09, 05:29 PM
Perhaps adding a category for "Best Articulation of a Theme," ie. that the spells all fit their theme in a particularly inventive fashion.


6.) Post on this thread to let the mods know that you have entered a class. We'll try to keep a post with all the entries listed in one place for easy reference.
Copy paste much? ;)

Videospirit
2004-08-09, 07:11 PM
Um... I have a few questions. How can we possibly have a sectino for bard spells if we have to have an 8th or 9th level spell. Bard's only get level 6 and paladins and rangers only have level 4.

The Giant
2004-08-10, 10:58 AM
OK, OK, stop with the asking the same question worded slightly different. I'll edit the rules.

Starbuck, relating to the same type of person means, for example, spells that would be useful to a mounted combatant, or spells that would be useful for carpenters. Not spells that were created by Bob the Carpenter, some of which have to do with carpentry and some of which do not.

The Mordenkainen spells from the PHB are all made by one guy, but they have no theme; Disjunction has nothing to do with Faithful Hound or Private Sanctum.

ByronHulcher
2004-08-11, 01:36 AM
For now, could we enter in two sets of spells, and then finalize which one we want to use before the deadline?

Baron
2004-08-11, 03:43 AM
I think it might be better if you didn't.

Otherwise we'll end up with a series of unfinished sets cluttering up the board, making it difficult for people to pick out the real entries.

If you have two sets of ideas, pick one to go with and if you feel the others still have merit, make a posting in the Gaming section.

Ikkitosen
2004-08-11, 03:47 AM
So Rich, what do we do for Bards and other casters without high-level spells? ;)

Videospirit
2004-08-11, 11:15 AM
So Rich, what do we do for Bards and other casters without high-level spells? *;)
If you read the post you'd see he's changed the rules layout.

Fenris
2004-08-11, 11:37 AM
Could we pick an existing spell and expand it into a chain, for instant: magic missle, better magic missle, even better magic missle and so on?

Could they be domain spells?

Vik
2004-08-11, 12:15 PM
I posted my brooms theme spells !

Zherog
2004-08-11, 03:00 PM
Behold! The power of love (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10922502 26) comes to you in convenient spell-sized containers!

Gdrad
2004-08-11, 04:46 PM
First few spells, and flavor text for my shiny entry are done. Ill update this post when its complete/when more spells are added.
More spells. More balance.
http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10922552 33

Videospirit
2004-08-11, 08:40 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10920953 11;start=0#0 for intoxicatingly powerful spells.

Ikkitosen
2004-08-12, 06:29 AM
Fear of Death spells now posted - watch out, there's an Assassin about :)

(p.s. Videospirit, it seems you didn't get my joke. Sorry :-/)

Ikki.

Starbuck_II
2004-08-12, 01:32 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10923317 11;start=0#0

Sarina's Speed, Theme Speed. Sarina is a bard who learned the power of speed!
Check it out heh.

Grey Watcher
2004-08-12, 02:19 PM
Oh, so THAT'S why all you guys are getting more attention than me! I was only the second person to post his spell set (videospirits durken spells got there first).

http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10921191 00

Bring your tap shoes and your reading glasses, these get pretty damn complicated! I'd really appreciated feedback on the DC's and stuff, my practical math skills aren't so good.

RufusCorvus
2004-08-12, 10:39 PM
I have a question about the themes.

Could I, say, choose to use the Black Mage character from 8 Bit Theatre as a theme? And if I did, would it require permission from 8 Bit's owner? I'm a fair bit unknowledgeable about copyrights.

Thanks in advance.

Grey Watcher
2004-08-13, 12:53 AM
Well, you could always do wonton, psychotic destruction as a theme, that's pretty much Black Mage. Or stabbing, that'd work too.

Slicer_PT
2004-08-13, 11:47 AM
Hey everyone!

Just posted a list of spells based around the theme of Laundry (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10924119 44). It started off as a bit of a joke, and this seems like the perfect place to propagate it. ;)

RufusCorvus
2004-08-13, 02:01 PM
Yeah, I think I'll just do Wanton Destruction.

Thanks, Grey_Watcher.

Edit:
I have posted my Spell Theme.

http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10924216 91

Gorbash Kazdar
2004-08-14, 03:55 AM
Here's my attempt (not as good with the spells as I am with the PrCs): Jakob's Time-Altering Magic (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10924678 01)

DarkLight140
2004-08-14, 08:10 PM
I probably should have posted here earlier... I put up Couyan's Adaptable Incantations, theme Spell Flexibility, a day or two ago.

Hopefully this link will work... http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10924379 82

guessmith
2004-08-15, 08:35 PM
My spell theme and clerical domain is added to the list. Feel the weight of the Gravity Domain!

I think that one or two of these spells may be a little wonky, as I adjusted these from my homebrew campaign as they were psionic powers.

Hope you enjoy!

eldersphinx
2004-08-16, 12:52 AM
Heya! Long-time lurker, first-time poster, submitting a set of clerical spells used for spreading distrust, dissention, and malice. Invocations of Taasken the Deceiver (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10926319 08;start=0#0).

Some of these spells may be a little bit far afield for clerical spell effects, but I'm willing to back them here based on (1) flavor text, (2) the presence of other spells that are firmly in the divine sphere, and (3) the fact that these are mostly toys for evil DMs anyway. ;D Good luck!

Ikkitosen
2004-08-16, 02:30 AM
There was a question earlier(from Fenris) as to whether a set of clerical spells could be made into a domain. I think that if the answer to this is "yes" then your set, eldersphinx, would be an excellent new domain for priests of Vecna, as mentioned in your flavour text. Just add a granted power and you're done :) (Although you'd lose the 0-level spell :(, but could just leave it as a regular, rare clerical spell :)).

Ikki.

AngelSword
2004-08-16, 02:32 PM
Tiny bubbles (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10926702 56;start=0#0), not suitable for the prince of !@#$%^& darkness, but could be useful for that mage who just can't seem to get that damn spot.

Gdrad
2004-08-17, 12:02 AM
http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Contests;action=display;num=10922552 33
All spells have been added. Awaiting feedback.

Vik
2004-08-17, 06:09 AM
It's funny that three themes at least have something to do with cleanliness - bubbles, laundry and brooms.

guessmith
2004-08-17, 08:43 AM
It's funny that three themes at least have something to do with cleanliness - bubbles, laundry and brooms.
Should that actually surprise anyone? This is really a dirty game! I hear many of the BBEG complain that dungeons are so hard to get clean!

AngelSword
2004-08-17, 01:28 PM
Should that actually surprise anyone? This is really a dirty game! I hear many of the BBEG complain that dungeons are so hard to get clean!
Yeah, I know. My dungeon is always covered in blood or ooze or the like.

>_>
<_<
>_>
I mean...my...arch-nemisis' dungeon...is all...covered in...::runs off::

eldersphinx
2004-08-17, 09:15 PM
Hey, Giant, a thought - might we be able to vote for our top three favorites in each category, rather than just one, and then have votes tallied in some sort of weighted setup? Given the number of ties seen in the Screen Name contest, this could prove useful - especially for the "I want that spell!" category, where the number of potential entries on the ballot is likely larger than the voter pool... ;D

Grey Watcher
2004-08-18, 01:46 AM
Giant, when is the deadline for alterations and such?

Hadoken
2004-08-18, 06:04 PM
The very first page it says from the giant's post that all threads will be locked on september second if that's what you are looking for.