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The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 11:06 AM
Welcome to the 17th ABR Discussion Thread!

Because we used to burn through new ABR threads so quickly, we created the Discussion thread. All banter goes here, and all comics and non-canon kills go in the main thread. (see line below)

Avatar Battle Royale: We All Live in A Yellow Citadel (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88925) is the current thread. Post artwork here.

Trailer for the Fat Fish Fury plot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqh4cOewDNg) by Kpenguin

Our current trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSlrT_9Goc)
By Omicroncubed

The Amazing ABR Wiki (http://abr.wetpaint.com/)

The world map of Avbaroy (http://abr.wetpaint.com/page/Avbaroy)

Backstory Comics
A story of Death (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63750) By Nameless
Endless (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68208) By Omicroncubed
Remember (http://www.remembercomic.co.uk/) By Lyinginbedmon
The Blast Dragons (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73393) By Jasondoomsblade (inactive)
Well that was unexpected (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68295) By Randomizer
Search (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77691) By Calamity
My Name is Q (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71239) By Q
The Fire Within (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91620) By Firedrake and Chriky (inactive)
Dawn of Yesterday (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96629) by Fayt
The Skornbail Incident (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99901) by Shades of Grey

Previous ABR main threads

First ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48645)
Second ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50666)
Third ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55646)
Fourth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59594)
Fifth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61122)
Sixth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81279)
Seventh ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84673)

Previous ABR discussion threads

Eighth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87949)
Ninth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89541)
Tenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93128)
Eleventh ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93128)
Twelfth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93731)
Thirteenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95173)
Fourteenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97451)
Fifteenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100079)
Sixteenth ABR Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100758)


Archives:

Fat Fish Fury (managed by Mechafox)
Part 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3439552&postcount=663)
Part 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3444141&postcount=793)
Part 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3918591&postcount=229)
Part 4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4753626&postcount=406)
Part 5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5217814&postcount=383)

Plot 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3803944&postcount=963) (also by Mechafox)

Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3965082&postcount=633) (managed by Szilard)

Sprite Wars Archive (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4380002&postcount=245) (managed by Q)

And coming soon will be the Future Imperfect archive (probably managed by Mad Mask). It will start when Fat Fish Fury is over. Continue Harassing Him.
List containing all PCs participating in Future Imperfect (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5530814&postcount=763)
The Organizational Chart of The Resistance (http://www.kinogo.com/victor/resistanceschema2.gif) (By Mad Mask, who has too much time on his hands)

BRC's guide to Joining ABR (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5603132&postcount=1429).

Joining ABR is kind of like trying to jump into a moving bus. It's going somewhere, so just getting on it is tough. Depending on how you introduce yourself, people may smooch over and offer you a seat, or try to throw you out the window, and trying to grab the wheel and change the direction the whole thing is going is generally unwelcome.

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Avatar Battle Royale VI: We are the plot; Scripting is futile
Here, they cannot die. But they will join the plot!

Batalla de Avatar Royal VI: Somos el complot; Redactando es inútil
Esta, no pueden morir. Pero se unirán a la parcela!
And one by Ichneumon (Spanish Text by joshu@fran.com)
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One by Szilard

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Fishslap! By Fayt

This post made early to prevent my insanity, sorry.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 11:07 AM
Uh...I called it...twice at least

Almighty Salmon
2009-01-07, 11:13 AM
We definitely don't have enough banners.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 11:15 AM
We definitely don't have enough banners.

I fixed it now, I think.
Lying, I kept asking and you didn't say anything. Also, you've already made a thread!
Now, I really gotta go to school. Bye!

BRC
2009-01-07, 11:21 AM
Lying did kinda call it, rather recently in fact.

Keveak
2009-01-07, 11:34 AM
Banners? Why do people ignore mine and then say they need banners.

@Troll: I'm sorry but that kobold is dead and won't be there for FI, I use other for that plot (picture in wiki) Sorry:smallfrown:

T-O-E
2009-01-07, 11:43 AM
I know that. I'm making the templates because I want to practise my art. Plus, if I enter FI, I won't have to make all the templates from scratch.
It's kind of like fanart.

Nameless
2009-01-07, 11:43 AM
Didn't Lying call this... twice?

EDIT: Ninja'd

Threeshades
2009-01-07, 11:46 AM
Banners? Why do people ignore mine and then say they need banners.

@Troll: I'm sorry but that kobold is dead and won't be there for FI, I use other for that plot (picture in wiki) Sorry:smallfrown:

because you dont post them big enough.

Keveak
2009-01-07, 12:00 PM
because you dont post them big enough.

My banners are made same size as Qs Kung fu banner so why are that too small?

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-07, 12:01 PM
As for the thread title, I think 5% meaningful discussion is a bit much for us. http://www.giantitp.com/forums/images/smilies/smallstick/smalltongue.gif

Also I think Gremlin called it before Lying.. not sure on that though.

@v Don't encourage them.

Threeshades
2009-01-07, 12:23 PM
My banners are made same size as Qs Kung fu banner so why are that too small?

they should be at lest 1800 pixels wide. otherwise they go unnoticed.

Keveak
2009-01-07, 12:25 PM
As for the thread title, I think 5% meaningful discussion is a bit much for us. http://www.giantitp.com/forums/images/smilies/smallstick/smalltongue.gif

Edit- Also I think Gremlin called it before Lying.. not sure on that though.

It doesn't say what the meaningfulness is about so it might get that high because people seems to argue about the universe, physics, word meanings and rules (or maybe Gremlin tries making it look better)


they should be at lest 1800 pixels wide. otherwise they go unnoticed.

They are bigger than Anti-Heroes banners (look in sig) so why are they accepted and not mine.

Bayar
2009-01-07, 02:08 PM
They are bigger than Anti-Heroes banners (look in sig) so why are they accepted and not mine.

Probably because of the avatar/banner rules...dunno.

Keveak
2009-01-07, 02:25 PM
Probably because of the avatar/banner rules...dunno.

I just read thru the rules and none of my banners are wider than allowed so it's not that reason.

Threeshades
2009-01-07, 04:54 PM
I just read thru the rules and none of my banners are wider than allowed so it's not that reason.

I said 1800 pixels! :smallmad:

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 05:30 PM
Gremlin, you didn't respond to my new idea on the soul catchers.


I have an idea, the soul eaters are the inevitables, the inevitability of passing on to the afterlife. They hunt down ghosts and bring them to a plane that coincides with their alignment, whether they want to or not.

Reitut
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Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-07, 05:46 PM
*clap* *clap* OI! :smallannoyed:



Alright, I'm going to make a comic bringing the Qs onto the scene. Should I just assume that blowing a hole in the fortress or creating a hole by crashing the ship into it and destroying it is simply immposible? Because knowlage that I don't have to would seriously affect how the Qs enter the scene.

REPOSTY! ANSWER MY QUESTION PLEASE!



EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: Okay, I know I'm being obsessive, but this is very exciting to me! My first Discussion tread!:smallsmile:

I've never even had ONE yet. :smallfrown:

I have had my name in the title of one of them though, which is pretty good too....

Beans
2009-01-07, 06:42 PM
*clap* *clap* OI! :smallannoyed:
Was that a ZP reference there? I likey.

Alright, I think I've got a decent motive down for Thryza. He's sick of Shades, and wants those umbrant buggers out of the picture. Thus, he'd lend a cold, dead hand---for his benefit, not the others'.
Feel free to pick holes in it like a bad sweater.

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-07, 06:43 PM
Personally, I would have gong with "ABR Discussion Thread XVII: Spam, Spam, Spam, Discussion and Spam.", as a Python reference.
That is, if Lying didn't call it, twice. Which he did.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 06:46 PM
Gremlin, you didn't respond to my new idea on the soul catchers.

Sorry about that, it got buried. I like it, but I don't think it makes much sense for inevitables to go against the order of the universe.
/\ Sorry, Q, but I called it first.:smalltongue:
Also, I think there should be a rule with calling the threads that the guy who calls it first gets it, unless he's already made one. At least for Discussion threads.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 06:58 PM
Can somebody give me more info about FI? Wait, never mind, I'll go look it up on the wiki.

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-07, 07:11 PM
/\ Sorry, Q, but I called it first.:smalltongue:
Well, sure, but Lying called it before you, twice.

Also, I think there should be a rule with calling the threads that the guy who calls it first gets it, unless he's already made one. At least for Discussion threads.
You're just saying that so it'll be acceptable for you to make it when Lying called it, twice.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 07:13 PM
Can somebody give me more info about FI? Wait, never mind, I'll go look it up on the wiki.

This is pretty much the kind of reaction having a wiki should cause.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 07:17 PM
I'm not sure if Lying called it first, but I'm pretty sure he responded to Gremlin when he asked.

So FI is where most of the ABR cast is in a resistance because of the UNA being weird?

memnarch
2009-01-07, 07:19 PM
Was that a ZP reference there? I likey.

Alright, I think I've got a decent motive down for Thryza. He's sick of Shades, and wants those umbrant buggers out of the picture. Thus, he'd lend a cold, dead hand---for his benefit, not the others'.
Feel free to pick holes in it like a bad sweater.

Q can't watch movies on his computer so that's a no.

That's a good motive.


As for Lying or Gremlin calling it first, Lying had called the thread before the last one and didn't get either the last one or one before that.

BRC
2009-01-07, 07:22 PM
Yeah, but that's because lying wasn't on and we were very very close to 50 pages. Besides, I let him name the thread, which is the only real benefit that comes with making a discussion thread.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 07:23 PM
So FI is where most of the ABR cast is in a resistance because of the UNA being weird?

Check up on Ins, he belong to the Holy Sovice Militia, which is largely why Lying opposes him (Lying has strong ties with the New Sovice Empire)

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 07:23 PM
@Gremlin, the inevitables are going with the natural order of the universe. Here's the standard life, which most people go through:

1) Be born
2) Live
3) Die
4) Please step through the door which corresponds to your alignment
5) Live in the Plane
6) Become part of the plane.

Here's what people who become ghosts do:

1) Steps one through Three
2) Decide "Wait, no!" and stay at the ethereal plane
3) Wait until something is done (Which they often don't influence)
4) Move on to the afterlife.

Whereas if the Praeseans were inevitables, they would be going against the natural order of things. They would be represent the inevitability of what?
maruts exemplify the inevitability of death, other inevitables represent the inevitability and fact of upholding a deal. Praeseans as inevitables don't exemplify anything, assuming that the soul catchers would then be natives who still send people to an afterlife.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 07:34 PM
Okay, I'm gonna try my best to answer everyone.

Well, sure, but Lying called it before you, twice.
No, actually only once. The time in the 15th thread, and maybe some other times THERE but never elsewhere.

You're just saying that so it'll be acceptable for you to make it when Lying called it, twice.Of course I am. If this were the other way around, I probably wouldn't complain. What matters is, if Lying made the same arguments I am, those arguments would still be right.

I'm not sure if Lying called it first, but I'm pretty sure he responded to Gremlin when he asked.
No, he did not respond. Nobody did. But then again, that's how I generally get treated.:smallannoyed:

As for Lying or Gremlin calling it first, Lying had called the thread before the last one and didn't get either the last one or one before that.He only called the thread before the last one Not the 14t.:smallannoyed:
And he. Already. GOT ONE!!! Why does he get to have two when other people don't have any?! It is completely unfair! It's like someone winning a contest twice!
Anyways, on to something else.

@Gremlin, the inevitables are going with the natural order of the universe. Here's the standard life, which most people go through:

1) Be born
2) Live
3) Die
4) Please step through the door which corresponds to your alignment
5) Live in the Plane
6) Become part of the plane.

Here's what people who become ghosts do:

1) Steps one through Three
2) Decide "Wait, no!" and stay at the ethereal plane
3) Wait until something is done (Which they often don't influence)
4) Move on to the afterlife.

Whereas if the Praeseans were inevitables, they would be going against the natural order of things. They would be represent the inevitability of what?
Maruts exemplify the inevitability of death, other inevitables represent the inevitability and fact of upholding a deal. Praeseans as inevitables don't exemplify anything, assuming that the soul catchers would then be natives who still send people to an afterlife.Ah, I see where we disagree. You see ghosthood as something where the souls DECIDE to stick around. I see it as something where they have unfinished business which they must attend to before they pass on.

Threeshades
2009-01-07, 07:35 PM
*clap* *clap* OI! :smallannoyed:

You can crash into it with sufficient velocity. But don't expect your airship to ever be able to play tennis or the violin again. By which I mean it will probably be of more use to an Ork Loota than to anyone else

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 07:37 PM
Ah, I see where we disagree. You see ghosthood as something where the souls DECIDE to stick around. I see it as something where they have unfinished business which they must attend to before they pass on.

Wouldn't one lead inevitably to the other?

BRC
2009-01-07, 07:37 PM
Personally, I don't see what the big deal is about making threads. Why it's considered so important. You pick a title, copy-paste the first post from the last thread with minor adjustments, and BAM, your done. Perhaps you get a brief moment of somthing as you admire the cleverness of your title, but that's it. It's hardly worth all this drama.

CrimsonAngel
2009-01-07, 07:38 PM
Would it be ok if.... I maybe came back into ABR through a strange and twisted loophole.....? :smallfrown:

BRC
2009-01-07, 07:39 PM
Would it be ok if.... I maybe came back into ABR through a strange and twisted loophole.....? :smallfrown:
Let's just declare your explosion comic non-canon. Heck, we could declare all your comics non-canon and you could re-enter using one of the methods I described last thread, or Soggy has an idea to get you in.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 07:40 PM
Would it be ok if.... I maybe came back into ABR through a strange and twisted loophole.....? :smallfrown:

We could just decide your suicide comic non-canon.

Such is the versatility of canonicity as a status :smallsmile:

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 07:42 PM
i have an idea. You came to visit jake because his relative sailed with oliver on the plannar expedition. and you were there too

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 07:44 PM
Ah, I see where we disagree. You see ghosthood as something where the souls DECIDE to stick around. I see it as something where they have unfinished business which they must attend to before they pass on.

Even so, maybe 0.001% of those who die become ghosts. The great beings of Law want to increase efficiency, so they just decide to remove the 0.001%.

This may sound evil, but all the inevitable can be evil

A man may raise himself as a lich so he can remain alive long enough to defeat a great evil. A Marut ports in and punches his face in. Evil wins.

A man makes a blood contract with an evil being. He finds out that the man is evil and plans to invade a nearby country to get an artifact.. He disregards the contract to give 50% of his crops to the man's army. BAM! Killed by an inevitable.

The only other way it could work, is that there is a LE Inevitable that catches souls, and a LG inevitable that fulfills why they are ghosts. These are the soul catchers and praesians. The praesians often go to the material plane to aid adventurers.

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 07:44 PM
Personally, I don't see what the big deal is about making threads. Why it's considered so important. You pick a title, copy-paste the first post from the last thread with minor adjustments, and BAM, your done. Perhaps you get a brief moment of somthing as you admire the cleverness of your title, but that's it. It's hardly worth all this drama.

Quoted for truth.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 07:47 PM
I'm gonna be busy at college for about another hour and would very much appreciate it if no-one else grabbed the next thread, so if we hit page 50 keep gabbing until either the mods close it or the new thread is made.
Page 49 of the last thread.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 07:50 PM
Page 49 of the last thread.

I'd look for something earlier if you want to oust Gremlin, but I'll just call dibs on the next one to compensate, this one's clearly too far in already to just abandon it.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 07:53 PM
Even so, maybe 0.001% of those who die become ghosts. The great beings of Law want to increase efficiency, so they just decide to remove the 0.001%.

This may sound evil, but all the inevitable can be evil

A man may raise himself as a lich so he can remain alive long enough to defeat a great evil. A Marut ports in and punches his face in. Evil wins.

A man makes a blood contract with an evil being. He finds out that the man is evil and plans to invade a nearby country to get an artifact.. He disregards the contract to give 50% of his crops to the man's army. BAM! Killed by an inevitable.

The only other way it could work, is that there is a LE Inevitable that catches souls, and a LG inevitable that fulfills why they are ghosts. These are the soul catchers and praesians. The praesians often go to the material plane to aid adventurers.

No. There may be defectives, but all normal inevitables are LN.
And a man who becomes a lich to defeat a great evil, in doing so becomes evil.
Just saying.
And yes, I know that justice can often be very inconvenient.
And how about that '0.001%' is a different type of ghost. Thoughts?
And BRC and kPenguin, I agree. I'm sorry Lying, I just wanted to actually make an ABR thread, and nobody said that you still wanted to make a thread.
EDIT: Oh. CRAP. I am very sorry, I thought it said 'someone' rather than 'no-one'. I'm very, very sorry Lying.:smallfrown:

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 07:56 PM
Indeed.

The idea that we should engage in mindless chatter just to satisfy your ego and let you post a new thread is ridiculous.

Of course, we get enough mindless chatter already.:smallannoyed:

Szilard
2009-01-07, 07:57 PM
Gremlin, I just provided a quote which shows that Lying himself said he still wanted to make the thread.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 07:59 PM
Gremlin, I just provided a quote which shows that Lying himself said he still wanted to make the thread.

An I just edited my post.:smallannoyed:

RabbitHoleLost
2009-01-07, 07:59 PM
You guys have more drama than the ship thread.

Er.
-poofs away-

Threeshades
2009-01-07, 08:02 PM
We could just decide your suicide comic non-canon.

Such is the versatility of canonicity as a status :smallsmile:

but it was funny :smallfrown:

Szilard
2009-01-07, 08:06 PM
An I just edited my post.:smallannoyed:

You did edit it a minute after I posted, and the sentence doesn't make sense when it says someone instead of no one. It just looks like you know that lying wants to make the thread, but you make it anyway.

Anywho,
I think the cheesecake theory of the universe is the tastiest.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 08:09 PM
You guys have more drama than the ship thread.

Er.
-poofs away-

...did you follow me here? :smallconfused:

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 08:09 PM
You guys have more drama than the ship thread.

Er.
-poofs away-

Oh yeah! Well you guys have less drama than the ship thread.

Er.
-poofs away-

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 08:10 PM
...did you follow me here? :smallconfused:

How do you "follow" someone on a forum?

RabbitHoleLost
2009-01-07, 08:12 PM
...did you follow me here? :smallconfused:

No, actually.
I've been lurking on this thread (or these threads, since this particular one is new) for a long time.
Creepy Rabbit is creepy, you see.

Right. I'm going to go away and let you guys do what you do now.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 08:13 PM
You did edit it a minute after I posted, and the sentence doesn't make sense when it says someone instead of no one. It just looks like you know that lying wants to make the thread, but you make it anyway.

:smallannoyed:
Look, Lying never said anything about my not being able to make the thread. Probably because nobody seems to acknowledge me. And so I see something which looks like he wants me to go along and make the thread, and since it seemed like he had no problem with me making the thread, I went ahead.
Also, it's pretty selfish that Lying would want us to hold off making teh next thread. Which is more important, him or ABR? I mean, I agree with BRC, and I was trying to offer peace, but if you guys want to keep that can of worms open, then fine. I have a pretty good argument here.
And as for letting CA back in: Do we have to?

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 08:18 PM
No, actually.
I've been lurking on this thread (or these threads, since this particular one is new) for a long time.
Creepy Rabbit is creepy, you see.

Right. I'm going to go away and let you guys do what you do now.

Gather the Torches! Set up the pikes! Ummm... Cover over the "post reply button"?

Szilard
2009-01-07, 08:19 PM
I just wanted to prove my point to you that lying did in fact respond to you, but I was confused about your edit.
In the terms of a human life, I would think Lying is more important than a jumble of pixels, plus he's British.:smalltongue:
I probably also have a good argument.
We do not have to let CA in, but being the gentleman that I am, I would.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 08:21 PM
I was the one that gave constructive criticism, and ideas to join back in. *Don't kill me.*:smalleek:

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 08:22 PM
@Szilard: Sort of waiting for you to post in the pbp game.

I'm waiting for TnD as well.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 08:24 PM
@Szilard: Sort of waiting for you to post in the pbp game.

I'm waiting for TnD as well.

I was waiting on TnD and the vampire spawn.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 08:25 PM
I just wanted to prove my point to you that lying did in fact respond to you, but I was confused about your edit.
In the terms of a human life, I would think Lying is more important than a jumble of pixels, plus he's British.:smalltongue:
I probably also have a good argument.
We do not have to let CA in, but being the gentleman that I am, I would.

I'm just saying, CA is annoying, has bad grammar, and is extremely immature.
And yes, I realize that what I said about Lying came out wrong (sorry, Lying). I meant, 'which is more important? Lying's desire to do the discussion thread twice', or ABR discussion continuing?'.

CrimsonAngel
2009-01-07, 08:26 PM
I'm just saying, CA is annoying, has bad grammar, and is extremely immature.
And yes, I realize that what I said about Lying came out wrong (sorry, Lying). I meant, 'which is more important? Lying's desire to do the discussion thread twice', or ABR discussion continuing?'.

I'm twelve. :smallannoyed:

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 08:27 PM
I was waiting on TnD and the vampire spawn.

You can post your action now. Everyone posts their actions in block and then I reorder them in initiative order.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 08:28 PM
I'm twelve. :smallannoyed:

Dang, he is immature. JK.:smalltongue:

I know what you meant, I just like to take things literally sometimes.:smalltongue:

@KP, cool.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 08:29 PM
I'm twelve. :smallannoyed:

And I'm 13 (by less than a month), MM is 10, and other people are 11-12. And yet, somehow, we manage to avoid being so obnoxious and immature.:smallannoyed:

BRC
2009-01-07, 08:30 PM
Concerning the thread: IT'S BEEN MADE! IT IS DONE, nobody died on account of it, let bygones be bygones. It isn't a big enough issue to merit the bandwidth spent discussing it.


Concerning Crimson Angel: Is not letting him in even on the table here? He's a little annoying sure, but that can be fixed. In the meantime, he's a better artist than some people here (myself included), and he's not pushy or hostile, and he seems willing to take advice. And though his posts on this thread tend towrds pointlessness... well... we just spent a couple pages arguing over the right to name a thread. Complaining that CA's posts in the discussion threads are pointless is like living in a landfill and complaining about people littering.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 08:33 PM
@Gremlin, you still haven't explained what the Praesians would exemplify as their inevitability.

Here are the options:

1) Praesians are inevitables, Soul eaters are creatures that either A) Sell the souls, B) Eat the souls, or C) Transport the souls to the proper body.

2) Soul eaters are inevitables, Soul eaters teleport beings to their alignment-based afterlife. The Praesians are CN outsiders who stop them and let the ghosts stay and watch (or interfere) with the thing stopping them from moving on.

3) Both are inevitables. The praesians are inevitables who enforce the inevitability of creatures fulfilling their duty, the Soul Eaters exemplifying the inevitability of creatures moving on.

4) Neither are inevitables, they exist solely to fight each other. In this situation I suggest that the Soul Eaters are mercenaries.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 08:35 PM
Concerning the thread: IT'S BEEN MADE! IT IS DONE, nobody died on account of it, let bygones be bygones. It isn't a big enough issue to merit the bandwidth spent discussing it.


Concerning Crimson Angel: Is not letting him in even on the table here? He's a little annoying sure, but that can be fixed. In the meantime, he's a better artist than some people here (myself included), and he's not pushy or hostile, and he seems willing to take advice. And though his posts on this thread tend towrds pointlessness... well... we just spent a couple pages arguing over the right to name a thread. Complaining that CA's posts in the discussion threads are pointless is like living in a landfill and complaining about people littering.
On the thread: Agreed. No more discussion on it.
On CA: Art doesn't really make any difference. He isn't just annoying, he is whiny and inconsiderate. He won't post on any thread which Beans posted on (not counting this one)just because Beans offered constructive criticism!
He does, at least, need to improve his grammar (and stop whining about not being included). And his comics should make more sense!
Okay, I just opened a whole new can o' worms about MY comics, didn't I?
/\My idea was that the soul 'eaters' are soul traders who sell the souls to the highest bidder. The Praesians, on the other hand, are inevitables who represent the inevitability of finishing important business: Everything which is started must be finished. Troubles must be resolved (only certain troubles, of course).
Of course, they don't mind WHEN the business is completed. But tehy just want it completed. If the souls are harvested, then how can it be ended?

Szilard
2009-01-07, 08:40 PM
Wait, Mad Mask is ten? I find that hard to believe. Unless you are refering to a different MM.
And why do you assume others are 11 to 12? I'm almost 15 myself.

BRC
2009-01-07, 08:40 PM
On the thread: Agreed. No more discussion on it.
On CA: Art doesn't really make any difference. He isn't just annoying, he is whiny and inconsiderate. He won't post on any thread which Beans posted on (not counting this one)just because Beans offered constructive criticism!
He does, at least, need to improve his grammar (and stop whining about not being included). And his comics should make more sense!
Okay, I just opened a whole new can o' worms about MY comics, didn't I?

That you did.

So far, all the whining I can remember is based around people not including him in their comics, which isn't all that unreasonable. It's not like he was asking to be the center of attention in said comics, he just wanted his character where said character was, according to his comics, supposed to be. There was no reason said character could/should not have been there.

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 08:41 PM
Wait, Mad Mask is ten? I find that hard to believe. Unless you are refering to a different MM.
And why do you assume others are 11 to 12? I'm almost 15 myself.

Check his profile and stuff.

He maintains that he's actually ten years old.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 08:43 PM
That you did.

So far, all the whining I can remember is based around people not including him in their comics, which isn't all that unreasonable. It's not like he was asking to be the center of attention in said comics, he just wanted his character where said character was, according to his comics, supposed to be. There was no reason said character could/should not have been there.

Fair enough. The only other whining was on his comic.
Szilard, it is true. Mad Mask is ten, as far as I know. I'll find a quote.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 08:48 PM
Wow, I know I didn't work that hard on stuff when I was ten...

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 08:50 PM
When CA said he was 10, MM said "I'd never think I'd find a poster that's my age".

When I was ten, people were still laughing at the word "poo", I of course, was doing better things with my life. Maturity varies.

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-07, 08:51 PM
I'm going to go away

Do so.

Also, it's pretty selfish that Lying would want us to hold off making teh next thread.

If you'd noticed, we didn't hit page 50 until long after Lying said to hold off until.
...
I mean, even if he hadn't said so he would've been ready.
..
I know what I mean. Try to reorganise that so it makes sense.

and he's not pushy or hostile, and he seems willing to take advice.
Um, no, he doesn't. The Beans incident has already been mentioned.

He's a little annoying sure, but that can be fixed. In the meantime, he's a better artist than some people here (myself included),
Art is easier to improve than attitude.

And though his posts on this thread tend towrds pointlessness... well... we just spent a couple pages arguing over the right to name a thread. Complaining that CA's posts in the discussion threads are pointless is like living in a landfill and complaining about people littering.
Pointless is relative. The thread-making argument was pointless, but it did at least..flow, I guess is the word. It begun by itself and had momentum and was at least partially relevant to the progress of some part of ABR. Many of CA's posts are just there for the sake of being there. No point, no cohesion, no relevance.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-07, 08:52 PM
Maturity varies extremely, on a couple forums I've been mistaken for someone closer to the_Q's age

CrimsonAngel
2009-01-07, 08:53 PM
I'm ten? Holy crap! I GET TO LIVE TWO MORE YEARS!!!!

RabbitHoleLost
2009-01-07, 08:53 PM
Do so.
Drama rama
[/spite]

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 08:54 PM
When CA said he was 10, MM said "I'd never think I'd find a poster that's my age".

When I was ten, people were still laughing at the word "poo", I of course, was doing better things with my life. Maturity varies.

But...CA isn't ten!:smallconfused:
EDIT: Thanks, NC. Your last point is especially valid. If I recall, one of CA's posts was something like, 'OMG I LIKE KITTIES'.
And it was like that as in, it was completely pointless. Seriously, I don't think that banning someone is really allowed, but if it were then CA is a pretty good candidate.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 08:55 PM
you know when M R was here you didn't go on about him that much. Why do you guys find it nessicary to pass judgement on a kid who is younger than the bulk of the artists here. i KNOW that you guys don't like not being included in comics...I KNOW that he is less mature ( rightly so seeing is how he is younger ) But that is NO reason whatsoever to gripe and whine about him.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 08:59 PM
you know when M R was here you didn't go on about him that much. Why do you guys find it nessicary to pass judgement on a kid who is younger than the bulk of the artists here. i KNOW that you guys don't like not being included in comics...I KNOW that he is less mature ( rightly so seeing is how he is younger ) But that is NO reason whatsoever to gripe and whine about him.

MR didn't stick around and spam. He didn't whine when we gave him advice. I never thought I'd say this, but I prefer MR to CA.
I...can't believe I said that.:smalleek:

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:00 PM
MR didn't stick around and spam. He didn't whine when we gave him advice. I never thought I'd say this, but I prefer MR to CA.
I...can't believe I said that.:smalleek:

He didn't take the advice. You are just forcing yourself to dislike him. Now lets get off this subject before the thread gets locked.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:02 PM
He didn't take the advice. You are just forcing yourself to dislike him. Now lets get off this subject before the thread gets locked.

Look, he DID take it! He started using Inkscape, he made his images smaller, and he stopped saying he was immortal! He even kind of stopped god-modding!

Sneak
2009-01-07, 09:03 PM
Huh.

I was maybe thinking about finally joining ABR, but I think there's enough drama here already without me. :smalltongue:

Guess I'll pass.

Just one thing to add to the discussion: maturity and age generally correspond, but that doesn't necessarily mean 12 year old = immature. I joined the boards four years ago, when I was 11. I probably wasn't the most mature eleven year old, but I like to think that I was pretty advanced for my age (wishful thinking? maybe :smalltongue:).

However, one thing that does bother me is when young people say "It's okay for me to have bad grammar/spelling. After all, I'm only [insert young age here]!" Your age is not an excuse for having bad grammar or spelling. Basic rules of English grammar? Not that hard to learn, especially when you're a native speaker. Maybe I didn't have flawless spelling or grammar as a twelve year old, but I think it was still pretty damn good.

It's actually okay to have bad grammar or spelling, but blaming it on your age is not. That's what gives younger people a bad rep.

Er...yeah. Dunno where I'm going with this, really.

Anyway, Sneak out.

[lurkmode]

T-O-E
2009-01-07, 09:04 PM
When CA said he was 10, MM said "I'd never think I'd find a poster that's my age".

When I was ten, people were still laughing at the word "poo", I of course, was doing better things with my life. Maturity varies.

I'm pretty sure he said "I never thought I'd meet a playgrounder approximately my age."

Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-07, 09:05 PM
MR didn't stick around and spam. He didn't whine when we gave him advice. I never thought I'd say this, but I prefer MR to CA.
I...can't believe I said that.:smalleek:

Master Ranger did use many furious faces and "yelled" in frustration when we commented on it.

I actually like CA. He just seems to misunderstand some things about ABR we seem to know as basic.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:05 PM
Look, he DID take it! He started using Inkscape, he made his images smaller, and he stopped saying he was immortal! He even kind of stopped god-modding!

I honestly can't grasp your dislike of ca. Your acting like its such a big deal. It isn't.

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-07, 09:05 PM
Why do you guys find it nessicary to pass judgement on a kid who is younger than the bulk of the artists here. i KNOW that you guys don't like not being included in comics...I KNOW that he is less mature ( rightly so seeing is how he is younger ) But that is NO reason whatsoever to gripe and whine about him.

If you're not mature enough to take part in something you should not be taking part in it. It's true that I don't like being left out of comics, but mine, at least, are coherent.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:06 PM
Huh.

I was maybe thinking about finally joining ABR, but I think there's enough drama here already without me. :smalltongue:

Guess I'll pass.

Just one thing to add to the discussion: maturity and age generally correspond, but that doesn't necessarily mean 12 year old = immature. I joined the boards four years ago, when I was 11. I probably wasn't the most mature eleven year old, but I like to think that I was pretty advanced for my age (wishful thinking? maybe :smalltongue:).

However, one thing that does bother me is when young people say "It's okay for me to have bad grammar/spelling. After all, I'm only [insert young age here]!" Your age is not an excuse for having bad grammar or spelling. Basic rules of English grammar? Not that hard to learn, especially when you're a native speaker. Maybe I didn't have flawless spelling or grammar as a twelve year old, but I think it was still pretty damn good.

It's actually okay to have bad grammar or spelling, but blaming it on your age is not. That's what gives younger people a bad rep.

Er...yeah. Dunno where I'm going with this, really.

Anyway, Sneak out.

[lurkmode]

Great. We scared off a potential ABR-ian.
And while I agree with most of what you say, just wanna say one thing: English isn't really that easy to learn for a non-native speaker, it had a lot of weird things.
Just saying that for Keveak's sake.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 09:06 PM
Huh.

I was maybe thinking about finally joining ABR, but I think there's enough drama here already without me. :smalltongue:

Guess I'll pass.

Just one thing to add to the discussion: maturity and age generally correspond, but that doesn't necessarily mean 12 year old = immature. I joined the boards four years ago, when I was 11. I probably wasn't the most mature eleven year old, but I like to think that I was pretty advanced for my age (wishful thinking? maybe :smalltongue:).

However, one thing that does bother me is when young people say "It's okay for me to have bad grammar/spelling. After all, I'm only [insert young age here]!" Your age is not an excuse for having bad grammar or spelling. Basic rules of English grammar? Not that hard to learn, especially when you're a native speaker. Maybe I didn't have flawless spelling or grammar as a twelve year old, but I think it was still pretty damn good.

It's actually okay to have bad grammar or spelling, but blaming it on your age is not. That's what gives younger people a bad rep.

Er...yeah. Dunno where I'm going with this, really.

Anyway, Sneak out.

[lurkmode]

It's not usually this full of Drama. Just since Crimsonangel joined in.:smalltongue:

I'd like to have the first person to post an ABR kill to join back, especially if you come back with your current style.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-07, 09:08 PM
And I'm 13 (by less than a month), MM is 10, and other people are 11-12. And yet, somehow, we manage to avoid being so obnoxious and immature.:smallannoyed:

Really? Because just saying this seems a little immature.

Anyway, I claim to be 83, and yet I'm STILL immature! :smalltongue:

*throws pie at grumpy kitty*

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-07, 09:09 PM
Huh.

I was maybe thinking about finally joining ABR, but I think there's enough drama here already without me. :smalltongue:

Guess I'll pass.

This is more drama than is usual, believe me. I'd recommend giving it a couple of days to blow over, but I'd advise against leaving entirely.

And while I agree with most of what you say, just wanna say one thing: English isn't really that easy to learn for a non-native speaker, it had a lot of weird things.
Just saying that for Keveak's sake.

Oh, of course. Note I retracted most of my criticism of Keveak when I learned of his location.

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 09:11 PM
Personally, I believe that Mad Mask is twelve.

According to this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4707554#post4707554) post of Mad Mask's, MM is the son Valerie Lewis, who apparently has a sex blog. Note that MM later edited out the fact that he was her son, but Lying quoted it (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4708011&postcount=1273) before he did so.

After doing some searching through said sex blog, we discover that Valerie Lewis does have a single son, age 12. We discover this in her blog post here (http://www.valerie-lewis.org/2008/08/28/ill-be-back/). If you scroll down to comments, Mrs. Lewis reveals her son's age.

Now, this being the internet, any number of these things could be lies, but based on the information presented, my conclusion is that MM is 12, not 10.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:12 PM
It's not usually this full of Drama. Just since Crimsonangel joined in.:smalltongue:

I'd like to have the first person to post an ABR kill to join back, especially if you come back with your current style.

Seconded. Something ironic is that I'm reading through the old threads right now.

Sneak
2009-01-07, 09:13 PM
Great. We scared off a potential ABR-ian.
And while I agree with most of what you say, just wanna say one thing: English isn't really that easy to learn for a non-native speaker, it had a lot of weird things.
Just saying that for Keveak's sake.

Oh, definitely. English is probably one of the most pointlessly complex and idiotic languages.

When you grow up with it, though, it's pretty simple.


It's not usually this full of Drama. Just since Crimsonangel joined in.:smalltongue:

I'd like to have the first person to post an ABR kill to join back, especially if you come back with your current style.

Ha, trying to tempt me to join during exam week! I'm not fooled by you! :smalltongue:


This is more drama than is usual, believe me. I'd recommend giving it a couplle of days to blow over, but I'd advise against leaving entirely.

Yeah, I'll probably do that actually. I am interested in ABR (have been for a while, never worked up the courage to join...aside from that first thread, that is)...but like I said, exam week probably isn't the best time to start up a new project. :smallwink:

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:14 PM
Um, no, he doesn't. The Beans incident has already been mentioned.
The Beans incident. I dunno whether to feel good about that name or not.

And with regard to age, insert surprise here.
I feel ancient---I'm fifteen. Now you young'uns go get me my cane and reading glasses.
But in all seriousness,
1. Many of you are very mature for 12-and-suches. Many, not all.
2. I'm a relentless, goosestepping, mercy-is-the-tool-of-the-weak Grammar Nazi, so I guess it's to be expected that I rag on CA. I'm sort of sorry. Mostly not.
3. I did try to... maybe not make peace with CA, but to be a little lighthearted with him back around New Years'. I made a little New Years' comic, in which he had a small role. I'd really rather not have him snapping at my throat like an angry lizard.
4. I just want to give everyone a big, tentacular (made-up adjectives are fun) undead hug.

Also, working away on my intro. It's interesting to note that Thryza isn't very pleasant.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:15 PM
Personally, I believe that Mad Mask is twelve.

According to this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4707554#post4707554) post of Mad Mask's, MM is the son Valerie Lewis, who apparently has a sex blog. Note that MM later edited out the fact that he was her son, but Lying quoted it (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4708011&postcount=1273) before he did so.

After doing some searching through said sex blog, we discover that Valerie Lewis does have a single son, age 12. We discover this in her blog post here (http://www.valerie-lewis.org/2008/08/28/ill-be-back/). If you scroll down to comments, Mrs. Lewis reveals her son's age.

Now, this being the internet, any number of these things could be lies, but based on the information presented, my conclusion is that MM is 12, not 10.
Okay, that looks really weird that you're going to all that trouble just to see how old MM really is.:smalleek:
Also, it might offend Mad Mask that you're going into his private life.
Also, Nameless quoted it first.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 09:17 PM
He probably edited out that post for a reason. Maybe he didn't want people to know who his mother is or his real age.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:17 PM
Why cant you drop the subject. Leave him alone and drop this for good.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 09:17 PM
Wait, wasn't Sneak already in ABR? I think he fought with a urinal or something.

Sneaky ninjas.:smalltongue:

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-07, 09:19 PM
2. I'm a relentless, goosestepping, mercy-is-the-tool-of-the-weak Grammar Nazi, so I guess it's to be expected that I rag on CA. I'm sort of sorry. Mostly not.

Heil five! And if no-one gets that reference I'm going to feel even older.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:20 PM
Why cant you drop the subject. Leave him alone and drop this for good.

Because CA is annoying, whiny and incapable of taking criticism. Not to mentioned how he spams. There are some people who just shouldn't be allowed to be in ABR. Where do we draw the line?

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:21 PM
Heil five! And if someone doesn't get that joke I'm going to feel even older.
I laughed inside.

Everybody, let's not fight. Why can't we just be one big, content (happy is a bit too far), dysfunctional family? Fighting solves things very badly or not at all.

Sneak
2009-01-07, 09:23 PM
Wait, wasn't Sneak already in ABR? I think he fought with a urinal or something.

Sneaky ninjas.:smalltongue:

I (and Andy, my trusty urinal companion) was indeed in the original ABR thread, before all this silly "plot" and "continuity" nonsense. :smalltongue:

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:24 PM
I laughed inside.

Everybody, let's not fight. Why can't we just be one big, content (happy is a bit too far), dysfunctional family? Fighting solves things very badly or not at all.

And yet, a lot of troubles (like slavery)seem to have been stopped by fighting.:smalltongue:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-07, 09:24 PM
According to this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4707554#post4707554) post of Mad Mask's, MM is the son Valerie Lewis, who apparently has a sex blog. Note that MM later edited out the fact that he was her son, but Lying quoted it (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4708011&postcount=1273) before he did so.

After doing some searching through said sex blog, we discover that Valerie Lewis does have a single son, age 12. We discover this in her blog post here (http://www.valerie-lewis.org/2008/08/28/ill-be-back/). If you scroll down to comments, Mrs. Lewis reveals her son's age.


Yeesh. The lad's apperently 10 or 12 and his mom has a sex website he seems to be aware of. That must be a little difficult for him somehow. Even knowing that your mother is on a website doing that stuff must be pretty strange. :smalleek:


Because CA is annoying, whiny and incapable of taking criticism. Not to mentioned how he spams. There are some people who just shouldn't be allowed to be in ABR. Where do we draw the line?

Nazi kitty! :smalleek:

You should not un-allow people to join ABR. It's just not right.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 09:25 PM
Which is probably why he, you know, edited his post.

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:29 PM
And yet, a lot of troubles (like slavery)seem to have been stopped by fighting.
Hm. True, very true. I guess I should've been more specific.
Fighting may solve our problems here and now, but I believe other ways would work better.

Also, PRAISE THE POTATO GODS. I have completed my intro. Posting will commence soon.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:30 PM
Because CA is annoying, whiny and incapable of taking criticism. Not to mentioned how he spams. There are some people who just shouldn't be allowed to be in ABR. Where do we draw the line?

no one is allowed to say who and who cant be in abr.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:32 PM
Yeesh. The lad's apperently 10 or 12 and his mom has a sex website he seems to be aware of. That must be a little difficult for him somehow. Even knowing that your mother is on a website doing that stuff must be pretty strange. :smalleek:



Nazi kitty! :smalleek:

You should not un-allow people to join ABR. It's just not right.

I would quote NC here, but I don't want to get banned. And how does thinking that some people shouldn't be in ABR make me a nazi?
And ABR is meant to be fun. Can it be fun when one of the guys will yell at whoever criticizes his comics? I think we should put it down to a vote.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:36 PM
no... we will not banish anyone from abr. I am sick of this. the only people that are complaining are the ones that DONT EVEN MAKE COMICS!

memnarch
2009-01-07, 09:37 PM
*MM age proof*

Good grief, how long did it take you to find that???

Szilard
2009-01-07, 09:40 PM
I say we shouldn't even have to vote if someone can come back or not. Sure they may have to improve on some aspects, but to say they cannot contribute to ABR? This is madness!
I now prepare for a Sparta joke.

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:40 PM
I would quote NC here, but I don't want to get banned. And how does thinking that some people shouldn't be in ABR make me a nazi?
And ABR is meant to be fun. Can it be fun when one of the guys will yell at whoever criticizes his comics? I think we should put it down to a vote.
1. I agree with your first and second issues. The point is, as far as I see, to have fun---achieved by people contributing well.
2. Although I'm really new at the whole ABR shebang, I agree with your proposal of a vote.

One thing: I think that we need to encourage improvement where its needed---both from the positions of critic (constructive, I hope) and criticized.
EDIT: I don't think banishment is a good idea at first, but maybe...
Perhaps people could be put on probation; they are warned, told how they can improve, and expected to do so---or at least, make an effort. Whether banishment would follow (if the person ignored the warning and such), I dunno.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:42 PM
no... we will not banish anyone from abr. I am sick of this. the only people that are complaining are the ones that DONT EVEN MAKE COMICS!

Excuse me? I make comics, and so does NC! He just withdrew his characters, FOR NOW, so that he'll be ready for FI!
And I make comics, too!
Even if we didn't make comics, that would make us any less valid or intelligent. Also, I am sick of people here who have been a round a while treating the rest of us like annoying side-kicks! When I was in Tiff's poster, I was shown in KP's sphere! People are always ignoring what I say, while they hang on Salmon, TS, and Lying's every word! What's it take to be acknowledged?! WHAT'S IT TAKE???!!!:smallfurious:
Okay, I'm, done ranting now. But I still say that CA should be banned!

Szilard
2009-01-07, 09:42 PM
That Thryza dude swears a lot.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:43 PM
This really is madness. I cant understand you. You have no right to say what ca can do.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:45 PM
This really is madness. I cant understand you. You have no right to say what ca can do.

No, I don't. But the ABR-ians do. I say, VOTE!!!
I vote for banning him. Non ABR-ians are WELCOME to vote, as their opinion matters just as much. They can still judge whether or not someone deserves to be shown the boot.

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:45 PM
That Thryza dude swears a lot.
I just noticed that. I'll need to look out for it later.

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 09:45 PM
@Banning CA: No, just... no. CA might be immature. He might spam our discussion threads. However, no one has the right to ban anyone from ABR, or any other thread for that matter. Nightwing was annoying, but we didn't ban him. Master Ranger was annoying, but we didn't ban him.


Good grief, how long did it take you to find that???

Not long. Once I found Mad Mask's post claiming that Valerie Lewis was his mother, it was quite easy to get to the site. Once there, I simply searched for any mentions of a son.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:46 PM
@Banning CA: No, just... no. CA might be immature. He might spam our discussion threads. However, no one has the right to ban anyone from ABR, or any other thread for that matter. Nightwing was annoying, but we didn't ban him. Master Ranger was annoying, but we didn't ban him.



amen brother!! :smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin:

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:47 PM
@Banning CA: No, just... no. CA might be immature. He might spam our discussion threads. However, no one has the right to ban anyone from ABR, or any other thread for that matter. Nightwing was annoying, but we didn't ban him. Master Ranger was annoying, but we didn't ban him.
Perhaps my idea of "probation" might apply here?

Sneak
2009-01-07, 09:47 PM
no... we will not banish anyone from abr. I am sick of this. the only people that are complaining are the ones that DONT EVEN MAKE COMICS!

*complain complain complain* :smalltongue:

Okay, I know I'm not really "in" with the ABR crowd, so I don't know how much weight my opinion carries, but I feel compelled to weigh in nonetheless...

...keeping someone out of something like ABR is just wrong and entirely against the spirit of the original ABR. It's not some kind of exclusive clique, it's a kind of game. For fun. If CrimsonAngel really does something wrong, you can bring it up with the mods. But immaturity and lack of spelling/gramming skills, while annoying, are not really crimes. I say, give him the benefit of the doubt and just let him try to prove himself to you.

Mah 2 cents, welcome or not. :smalltongue:

P.S. Would it be alright if I drew some of your characters in my new style to test out how easy/quick it is to do?

Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-07, 09:47 PM
Can it be fun when one of the guys will yell at whoever criticizes his comics?

He yells? I know Master Ranger did that, but when did Crimson Angel? :smallconfused:

Anyway, I don't think ANYBODY should be thrown out of ABR. It isn't that kind of club. I don't think it makes any sense to say "you've been annoying out-of-character, so you can no longer post comics and have fun with us."

And second of all, we're thinking of banishing CA for being annoying, but not me?! Aren't I annoying enough to be banished?! I try my best! :smallfrown:

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 09:48 PM
Perhaps my idea of "probation" might apply here?

NO... NO PROBATION AND NO BANNING.

no one here has the right.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:49 PM
@Banning CA: No, just... no. CA might be immature. He might spam our discussion threads. However, no one has the right to ban anyone from ABR, or any other thread for that matter. Nightwing was annoying, but we didn't ban him. Master Ranger was annoying, but we didn't ban him.



Not long. Once I found Mad Mask's post claiming that Valerie Lewis was his mother, it was quite easy to get to the site. Once there, I simply searched for any mentions of a son.

I don't know about Nightwing, but MR didn't spam. MR accepted criticism. MR, while using extremely bad grammar, actually acted slightly more mature. But we'll abide by your vote.

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 09:49 PM
And second of all, we're thinking of banishing CA for being annoying, but not me?! Aren't I annoying enough to be banished?! I try my best! :smallfrown:

This.

Q is annoying as well, but no one ever thinks of banning him.

CrimsonAngel
2009-01-07, 09:49 PM
The Beans incident. I dunno whether to feel good about that name or not.

And with regard to age, insert surprise here.
I feel ancient---I'm fifteen. Now you young'uns go get me my cane and reading glasses.
But in all seriousness,
1. Many of you are very mature for 12-and-suches. Many, not all.
2. I'm a relentless, goosestepping, mercy-is-the-tool-of-the-weak Grammar Nazi, so I guess it's to be expected that I rag on CA. I'm sort of sorry. Mostly not.
3. I did try to... maybe not make peace with CA, but to be a little lighthearted with him back around New Years'. I made a little New Years' comic, in which he had a small role. I'd really rather not have him snapping at my throat like an angry lizard.
4. I just want to give everyone a big, tentacular (made-up adjectives are fun) undead hug.

Also, working away on my intro. It's interesting to note that Thryza isn't very pleasant.

Um. Your comic said I was a big head or something. Yeah thanks.

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:49 PM
NO... NO PROBATION AND NO BANNING.

no one here has the right.
I can see why banning is out, but why not probation? It would tell people what they are doing wrong (if they were doing something wrong enough. CA doesn't seem Prob-worthy right now, actually) and how to improve.


Um. Your comic said I was a big head or something. Yeah thanks.
What?
Er... Kilconey was yelling at you and calling you thick (and then getting told by Phossy to be nicer to you and other people in general).

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 09:51 PM
CA deserves to be here. We all do.

The day the ABR community votes to remove a member is the day I will no longer feel comfortable among them. The day CA is "banned", so too will I take my leave.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 09:51 PM
Due to homework and intriguing arguments on this thread, I might not be able to finish a comic tonight. I also would not mind Sneak drawing some of my little known characters.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 09:53 PM
*Sighs*
Alright, looks like CA is staying. Dammit. But if I may ask, Doomer, why do you like CA so much? Is it because you BOTH HAVE BAD GRAMMAR WITHOUT ANY GOOD REASON?:smallannoyed:
Anyways, I'd like to say, 'if CA doesn't leave then I do', but that would make me just as bad as CA. It would make me immature, annoying and whiny (yes, that was a double-edged comment). So, I stay. Because, if the resister leaves who will fight?

memnarch
2009-01-07, 09:54 PM
Not long. Once I found Mad Mask's post claiming that Valerie Lewis was his mother, it was quite easy to get to the site. Once there, I simply searched for any mentions of a son.

That's just it. Those posts were about 10 threads ago. Which is about 4 months ago, but still. That's a longish time ago in thread life.


Edit; Grem, why are you so set on tossing CR out?

Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-07, 09:55 PM
*Sighs*
Alright, looks like CA is staying. Dammit. But if I may ask, Doomer, why do you like CA so much? Is it because you BOTH HAVE BAD GRAMMAR WITHOUT ANY GOOD REASON?:smallannoyed:

Perhaps a better question would be "why don't you hate him?" because it makes slightly more sense and it's easier for people to answer: "Because he's done nothing wrong".

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 09:55 PM
I like Crimson Angel too, Gremlin. Want to throw some insults towards me as well?:smallmad:

Szilard
2009-01-07, 09:56 PM
I'm guessing Mega feels sympathy for CA because they both are not acknowledged sometimes, both made their characters disappear from ABR (If maybe temporarily), and feel everyone dislikes them because they are new.

Beans
2009-01-07, 09:56 PM
*Sighs*
Alright, looks like CA is staying. Dammit. But if I may ask, Doomer, why do you like CA so much? Is it because you BOTH HAVE BAD GRAMMAR WITHOUT ANY GOOD REASON?:smallannoyed:
You know, if I just tell everyone to chill for a moment before we're at each other's throats, the chance of people listening to me drops.

Look, some of us type well. Some of us decidedly do not. While that does rationalize Grammar Nazis getting ticked off at them a bit, it does not rationalize banning or theoretical probation.
We all just need to calm down and reason this out like civilized meatsacks.
EDIT: Alright, my consciousness is wavering. I'm off to bed. Can we please just stop sniping at each other?
Yes, CA and Doomer don't type so well. Yes, Grem is being kinda belligerent. But can we just put that aside for a moment?

kpenguin
2009-01-07, 09:58 PM
That's just it. Those posts were about 10 threads ago. Which is about 4 months ago, but still. That's a longish time ago in thread life.

Yeah, I guess.

memnarch
2009-01-07, 09:59 PM
Beans, I think you mean Meatbags (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Meatbag) yes?

@/\ not to mention, no other posts around it really talked about it. So... How'd you find it?

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 10:02 PM
I like Crimson Angel too, Gremlin. Want to throw some insults towards me as well?:smallmad:

No. What I said to Doomer was not insults, they were facts. Doomer does have lousy grammar for no reason.
As for your liking CA, I don't know why. There's always some strange things like that. Why would anybody like someone who is obnoxious and whiny? Or are you just saying that because you don't like me? At this point, it would fail to surprise me.
You know what? That's it. I am sick of this.
I enjoyed ABR, but could not do anything meaningful. Nobody paid any attention to me, and that's as much my fault as theirs. All the same, I'll miss ABR. I had plans for my character, but nobody would have acknowledged them anyways.
Goodbye, ABR, truly this time. You shall be missed.
My post in the goodbye thread shall be up soon.
What bothers me is, nobody will care.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 10:02 PM
Guys, here's my list of people I plain didn't like when they joined ABR. Be it from Messing with the Canon, to having horrible quality.

Gremlin
Keveak
Q
CA
MR
Jason Doomblade
Squark
Szilard
Mad Mask.

Here's the list of people who have gotten better.

Gremlin
Keveak
Q
Jason Doomblade
Szilard
Mad Mask

Give people time. CA has been on the forum for 1 month at max. My first post in the forum was this.


If Lord Tyrinar was Nale's father that would even make him more awesome and then I could use his awesome magic (see my sig)

SIG: Awesomemancer of the :nale: fanclub.

Guh... CA will get better. Now I have to go burn all evidence of that post...

CrimsonAngel
2009-01-07, 10:04 PM
Mega, if it makes you feel any better, Ive had this for a while.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g6612.png

Shades of Gray
2009-01-07, 10:09 PM
No. What I said to Doomer was not insults, they were facts. Doomer does have lousy grammar for no reason.
As for your liking CA, I don't know why. There's always some strange things like that. Why would anybody like someone who is obnoxious and whiny? Or are you just saying that because you don't like me? At this point, it would fail to surprise me.
You know what? That's it. I am sick of this.
I enjoyed ABR, but could not do anything meaningful. Nobody paid any attention to me, and that's as much my fault as theirs. All the same, I'll miss ABR. I had plans for my character, but nobody would have acknowledged them anyways.
Goodbye, ABR, truly this time. You shall be missed.
My post in the goodbye thread shall be up soon.
What bothers me is, nobody will care.

DUN DUN DUNNN!

Seriously, everyone is getting worked up about a story where a fish is angry at an elf, a 600 year old wizard is fighting alongside the grim reaper. An ex-convict with an airship teams up with a being of ultimate power from outer space. And Blood Oaths of Vengeance are sworn over Ice Cream.

ABR IS NOT SERIOUS BUSINESS!

Sneak
2009-01-07, 10:19 PM
Well...this didn't end well.

I would try to convince Gremlin not to leave over some petty dispute, even though I don't really know him at all, but it's clear that he's already made up his mind. And he already posted in the goodbye thread. :smallfrown:

So...erm.

Well.

This is awkward. (:smalltongue:)

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 10:19 PM
Holy carp. I really never thought I'd even post here. But now I am.
ABR is no longer enjoyable, and never really was. Nobody cared about what I contributed, except a few other newbies. And so I say, 'thank you, JasonDoomsblade and Ninja Chocobo and Icedragons (heh, sorry I couldn't save you on the Hurt/Heal)'.
Anyways, goodbye all. Folk in the Town, thanks for being so fun to roleplay with. Mee, thanks for being such a great mentor.
Coplanter, thanks for giving me such great stuff to read. Please keep writing your homebrew.
Elrond, I am sad that I shall never get to see myself in your webcomic. But thanks for giving me the hope.
All those other great webcomic writers, thanks for giving me stuff to laugh at.
Most of all, thanks Rich Burlew for making this site. It was fun while it lasted.
...
...the sad thing is, hardly anyone will even comment on my departure, let alone care.
Especially not the folk from ABR.:frown:

Goodbye.:smallfrown:

Darklord Bright
2009-01-07, 10:25 PM
ABR IS NOT SERIOUS BUSINESS!

Hear, hear!

I mean, come on guys, I hardly get acknowledged by any of the main characters, but I don't complain about it! It'll happen when I'm deeper into the story and become more regular (Ha! The only situation I'd get to call myself that!) in these parts. So can we all just settle down and act like civilized people?

Seriously, I thought we had evolved past all these petty squabbles.

Edit: Gremlin, if you had really wanted to stay, you would've.

Just saying.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 10:28 PM
Hear, hear!

I mean, come on guys, I hardly get acknowledged by any of the main characters, but I don't complain about it! It'll happen when I'm deeper into the story and become more regular (Ha! The only situation I'd get to call myself that!) in these parts. So can we all just settle down and act like civilized people?

Seriously, I thought we had evolved past all these petty squabbles.

I didn't just leave because of these 'petty squabbles', I left because I was sick of being ignored in ABR.
And there's a difference. When your character was introduced, everybody commented, calling him cute and stuff.
When I came, I entered badly. I haven't lived it up to this day, and never will.
And yes, I'm still here. Just long enough to make taht comment, though. Seriously, now, goodbye.

Darklord Bright
2009-01-07, 10:32 PM
I didn't just leave because of these 'petty squabbles', I left because I was sick of being ignored in ABR.
And there's a difference. When your character was introduced, everybody commented, calling him cute and stuff.
When I came, I entered badly. I haven't lived it up to this day, and never will.

Not if you don't stick around you won't. I have nothing wrong with you, and I'm sure several of us could agree. Isn't that all someone needs? A few people who will put in a good word for him? I can't say you aren't right about us being different, but I can say that by skipping out on ABR, you'll never know if it would have gotten better.

Edit: If you're really set on it, then goodbye. I'm not going to stop you.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 10:35 PM
Not if you don't stick around you won't. I have nothing wrong with you, and I'm sure several of us could agree. Isn't that all someone needs? A few people who will put in a good word for him? I can't say you aren't right about us being different, but I can say that by skipping out on ABR, you'll never know if it would have gotten better.

Edit: If you're really set on it, then goodbye. I'm not going to stop you.

Alright, alright. I see that I'm being as childish as CA (old habits die hard, heh heh). I'll stay.
Only because Shades promised to use my idea for the Ethereal Plane if I did.:smalltongue:

memnarch
2009-01-07, 10:35 PM
Maybe what you want is just a break; say, make a different character for FI, not related to anything current. Take some time to try to figure out inkscape, even if it is just circles on rectangles. You'll improve with time and ask questions about how to get better.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 10:39 PM
I was surprised that shades didn't like me at first, then I remembered the way I entered ABR.:smalltongue:

Anyway, that kind of sucks that gremlin's leaving, I actually had him in most of my newer SDSB comics. He never did much with that character though...

So, what are your guys' bets on when he will come back to rejoin ABR? I'd say within the next week.
Nevermind. I need to learn to hit refresh and read the thread again before posting.
Edit again: @V: five minutes ago actually.
Edit the 3rd, BRC has very quick ninja like skills.

BRC
2009-01-07, 10:40 PM
I was surprised that shades didn't like me at first, then I remembered the way I entered ABR.:smalltongue:

Anyway, that kind of sucks that gremlin's leaving, I actually had him in most of my newer SDSB comics. He never did much with that character though...

So, what are your guys' bets on when he will come back to rejoin ABR? I'd say within the next week.

I'd say like five minutes ago.

memnarch
2009-01-07, 10:42 PM
Doesn't make my suggestion any less valid though,

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 10:42 PM
Maybe what you want is just a break; say, make a different character for FI, not related to anything current. Take some time to try to figure out inkscape, even if it is just circles on rectangles. You'll improve with time and ask questions about how to get better.

No to the first one, yes to the second. I really like my character, and have major plans for him, but I need to start using Inkscape if I'm gonna be taken seriously.
However, I think I will take a small break. I need time to learn how to use Inkscape, and time is something I don't have if I wanna be in the final fight against The Shades. So, I won't be in the fight. Simple as that. One sentence, and a lot of guilt and stress leaves my shoulders.:smallsmile:
EDIT: @Szilard, hey can I bet? I could use some cash.

Szilard
2009-01-07, 10:44 PM
Yeah you can.:smalltongue:

memnarch
2009-01-07, 10:45 PM
Feel free to drop pictures of your progress here for criticism. The majority of it will be constructive, but there will probably be some occasional teasing you know. This is ABR after all. :smalltongue:

Darklord Bright
2009-01-07, 10:47 PM
See, now I just want to get involved in this darn thing. :smalltongue:
Every time I try, real life rears its ugly head around the corner and smacks me silly!

Edit: Also, regarding ages and feeling old.... I'm sixteen. :smalleek:

Szilard
2009-01-07, 11:04 PM
Don't feel too bad, we only really have about three or four confirmed people under the age of fifteen.
I know Q is 83 and Lying is like 22.

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 11:04 PM
Don't feel too bad, we only really have about three or four confirmed people under the age of fifteen.
I know Q is 83 and Lying is like 22.

I think it's just 20, actually.

memnarch
2009-01-07, 11:07 PM
Oh quit your whining; I'm 18 as of tomorrow.

Also, new comic by Rich so the site's connection is probably going to be hurting a bit more than usual. Note for any who don't know yet; we go here (http://z15.invisionfree.com/Remember/index.php?showtopic=161&st=100) if the problems get really bad.

BRC
2009-01-07, 11:11 PM
Speaking of age, where is our resident 10-year-old who acts like a college professor?

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 11:20 PM
Speaking of age, where is our resident 10-year-old who acts like a college professor?

Wherever he is, I'm a bit worried that KP's prying will upset him.

Eita
2009-01-07, 11:25 PM
I'm actually a little afraid of KP now after that. Yikes.

Also, I always thought that MM was quite old. In fact, I conjectured that he was a friend of Lying's and that's how he joined ABR.

DoomITP
2009-01-07, 11:28 PM
Mega, if it makes you feel any better, Ive had this for a while.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/g6612.pngyour my favorite now :smallbiggrin: Now i have to make a templet for you\.:smallamused:

The Gremlin
2009-01-07, 11:30 PM
I'm actually a little afraid of KP now after that. Yikes.

Also, I always thought that MM was quite old. In fact, I conjectured that he was a friend of Lying's and that's how he joined ABR.

I second both statements.
Also, Mechafox, I been going through the old ABR threads and found a comic which is not in the archives.
This comic (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/262/battletv9.png).
Is there a reason, or did you miss it? It seems like TS was archiving then, so maybe she missed it?:smallconfused:

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-08, 12:15 AM
Apologies for the considerable-size post with not a lot of content.

Excuse me? I make comics, and so does NC! He just withdrew his characters, FOR NOW, so that he'll be ready for FI!

Well, not entirely. It's half FI withdrawal, half writer's block.

I'm guessing Mega feels sympathy for CA because they both are not acknowledged sometimes, both made their characters disappear from ABR (If maybe temporarily), and feel everyone dislikes them because they are new.

I don't dislike them because they're new. I dislike them because of incoherency, spam, indecisiveness, and GRAMMAR RAAAAGE.
I'm another who is rarely acknowledged. I do not feel sympathy towards them due to this.

I'll stay.

Woo!

I need to start using Inkscape if I'm gonna be taken seriously.

Not entirely, though it does help, and it's actually a lot easier than raster work once you get the hang of it. Think in terms of shapes and lines, and it'll be a lot easier.

In fact, I conjectured that he was a friend of Lying's and that's how he joined ABR.

How did he manage that in Canada?

DoomITP
2009-01-08, 12:17 AM
How did he manage that in Canada?

maybe knew him through another site?

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-08, 02:44 AM
I'm a reasonably big name in LoadingReadyRun fandom, so it's conceivable we're connected through that.

However, you're all wrong. I'm 18 as of last June.

chriky
2009-01-08, 02:58 AM
Perhaps a better question would be "why don't you hate him?" because it makes slightly more sense and it's easier for people to answer: "Because he's done nothing wrong".

Don't worry Q, I hate you.

kpenguin
2009-01-08, 02:58 AM
I'm actually a little afraid of KP now after that. Yikes

Yesss. Fear me. FEAAAAR ME!

Bayar
2009-01-08, 06:27 AM
I am 20. :smallcool:

kpenguin
2009-01-08, 06:43 AM
Say, Shades, whatever happened to the character Shades of Gray? You know, the hammer-wielding, pokemon-summong, gray ninja?

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-08, 06:47 AM
I think he was just retired. Last time I saw him I think was somewhere around Tajira.

Mad Mask
2009-01-08, 07:11 AM
Personally, I believe that Mad Mask is twelve.

According to this (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4707554#post4707554) post of Mad Mask's, MM is the son Valerie Lewis, who apparently has a sex blog. Note that MM later edited out the fact that he was her son, but Lying quoted it (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4708011&postcount=1273) before he did so.

After doing some searching through said sex blog, we discover that Valerie Lewis does have a single son, age 12. We discover this in her blog post here (http://www.valerie-lewis.org/2008/08/28/ill-be-back/). If you scroll down to comments, Mrs. Lewis reveals her son's age.

Now, this being the internet, any number of these things could be lies, but based on the information presented, my conclusion is that MM is 12, not 10.

So you have finally pierced the mystery. I don't blame you for being curious, but next time you find something about me could you please keep it for yourself ?

Just to clear up some things: I told I was ten because I didn't want people to discover too much about my private life. But I don't think that it's very important in this forum if I'm ten, twelve or thirty-three. So let's forget about this little business and go back to our usual 40% Spam, 55% Banter and 5% Relevant Discussion.
_________________________

About Shades of Gray: Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think that Shades of Gray abandoned his first character because he was a little silly and reminded him of his first beginnings in FFF. So I don't think he's going to actually return to the plots.

Fawkes
2009-01-08, 07:36 AM
Anything interesting happen in the last few pages, aside from Kippy stalking Mask?

Ninja Chocobo
2009-01-08, 07:37 AM
Just to clear up some things: I told I was ten because I didn't want people to discover too much about my private life. But I don't think that it's very important in this forum if I'm ten, twelve or thirty-three.

You could've just not told us anything, y'know.

Anything interesting happen in the last few pages, aside from Kippy stalking Mask?

Huge argument about thread-starting rights and CA and the ethics about restricting people from participating in ABR.

The technical term is censored on the forums, but I'll refer to it as DramaFest '09.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-08, 07:49 AM
...I know Q is 83....
You don't actually know that, yet. I haven't given any proof. :smalltongue:


Don't worry Q, I hate you.
Thanks for cheering me up, Chirky. :smallsmile:

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-08, 07:52 AM
Sheesh, take a day off and I come back to find nothing but drama and arguments to read.

Somebody find Nameless and his fun time image, we need more happy here.
This'll have to do for now.
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8769/politicalpicturessoldieqm9.jpg

@v Thanks. Now everyone, stare at it until you feel the love. Or your eyes burning out of their sockets, which is pretty much the same feeling. :smalltongue:

Bayar
2009-01-08, 08:08 AM
Sheesh, take a day off and I come back to find nothing but drama and arguments to read.

Somebody find Nameless and his fun time image, we need more happy here.

http://www.smackjeeves.com/images/uploaded/comics/0e346ae09678.png

Almighty Salmon
2009-01-08, 08:25 AM
.. That was probably the most stupid five pages of discussion i've ever read in my life.

Keveak
2009-01-08, 09:12 AM
Gremlin spoke for me.. no-one has ever done that before:smalleek::smallsmile:

And now he's leaving... Oh wait he's not.
By the way you may use this guide Grem I made my first avatar a few minutes after using it. Now where is it.... Oh right here at the bottom of my sig in that spoiler at the bottom...

Fawkes
2009-01-08, 09:21 AM
I been going through the old ABR threads and found a comic which is not in the archives.
This comic (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/262/battletv9.png).
Is there a reason, or did you miss it? It seems like TS was archiving then, so maybe she missed it?:smallconfused:

Don't recall ever seeing it before. *shrug*

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-08, 09:24 AM
I remember seeing that one. My feeble mind never understood it though. :smalltongue:

Szilard
2009-01-08, 09:31 AM
So Gremlin, are you ever going to do anything with that character of yours in SDSB?

Nameless
2009-01-08, 09:37 AM
@Gremlin, the inevitables are going with the natural order of the universe. Here's the standard life, which most people go through:

1) Be born
2) Live
3) Die
4) Please step through the door which corresponds to your alignment
5) Live in the Plane
6) Become part of the plane.

Here's what people who become ghosts do:

1) Steps one through Three
2) Decide "Wait, no!" and stay at the ethereal plane
3) Wait until something is done (Which they often don't influence)
4) Move on to the afterlife.

Whereas if the Praeseans were inevitables, they would be going against the natural order of things. They would be represent the inevitability of what?
maruts exemplify the inevitability of death, other inevitables represent the inevitability and fact of upholding a deal. Praeseans as inevitables don't exemplify anything, assuming that the soul catchers would then be natives who still send people to an afterlife.

When a soul die's,
Nameless is supposed to either send them to whatever plain they're supposed to go to, or leave them as ghosts, why they are to remain here as ghosts is not for Nameless to know or care much about.

EDIT: Also, why are we on page 7? :smallannoyed:

EDIT II: And it's supposed to be dark now. :P

Keveak
2009-01-08, 09:51 AM
When a soul die's,
Nameless is supposed to either send them to whatever plain they're supposed to go to, or leave them as ghosts, why they are to remain here as ghosts is not for Nameless to know or care much about.

EDIT: Also, why are we on page 7? :smallannoyed:

EDIT II: And it's supposed to be dark now. :P

Objection! Gods might keep them from going on too. Both Sam and Keveak had that problem (Sam swore an oath in Boccobs name and Keveak was held to save Ven (or for fun, Boccob is rather immature in these chases)) and in DnD plus real legends ghosts are often hold back by guilt, oaths or curses.

The Gremlin
2009-01-08, 10:17 AM
So Gremlin, are you ever going to do anything with that character of yours in SDSB?

Well, given that I'm currently trying to work on my Inkscape art, I probably won't. I'd appreciate it if people NPC'ed him, but otherwise he should just kinda go away for a while.
If he is NPC'ed, he is basically a rogue. He has a lot of powerful magic items, each of which designed for a specific circumstance. There's some of them that he's never used once.

kpenguin
2009-01-08, 10:47 AM
So you have finally pierced the mystery. I don't blame you for being curious, but next time you find something about me could you please keep it for yourself ?

Very well. Just as planned

The Gremlin
2009-01-08, 10:59 AM
Very well. Just as planned

Told you so.:smallannoyed::smalltongue:
Also, I've been a bit confused for a while about something.
A lot of people were deleting their old images. Nameless did., for one. So, I've never known what really happened in the Citadel that one time. It seems like they got there, then there's some blank stuff or comics cut off, and then everyone's fighting. I all makes zero sense.:smallconfused:

Nameless
2009-01-08, 11:27 AM
Objection! Gods might keep them from going on too. Both Sam and Keveak had that problem (Sam swore an oath in Boccobs name and Keveak was held to save Ven (or for fun, Boccob is rather immature in these chases)) and in DnD plus real legends ghosts are often hold back by guilt, oaths or curses.

I know that, I never said why they don't go on, I even said Nameless doesn't care much for why, he simply does it.


Told you so.
Also, I've been a bit confused for a while about something.
A lot of people were deleting their old images. Nameless did., for one. So, I've never known what really happened in the Citadel that one time. It seems like they got there, then there's some blank stuff or comics cut off, and then everyone's fighting. I all makes zero sense.

I did what now? :smallconfused:

Threeshades
2009-01-08, 11:33 AM
And I'm 13 (by less than a month), MM is 10, and other people are 11-12. And yet, somehow, we manage to avoid being so obnoxious and immature.:smallannoyed:

I still don't believe MM to be 10. He's gonna have to prove it.

Nameless
2009-01-08, 12:09 PM
And I'm 13 (by less than a month), MM is 10, and other people are 11-12. And yet, somehow, we manage to avoid being so obnoxious and immature.

And I'm 16! :smallbiggrin:

Keveak
2009-01-08, 12:19 PM
And I'm 16! :smallbiggrin:

And I'm 14, lives in Copenhagen and my first name start with "M" [/too much information-something]

Kazul
2009-01-08, 12:32 PM
First, sorry for eventual grammar and alike mistakes, but I don't have Mozilla and her spelling checker on this computer. Please Gremlin, don't kill me. :smallwink:


And I'm 16! :smallbiggrin:

orly? Me too :smalltongue:

Oh, and guys, the thread title was supposed to be a joke - you don't have to keep the said percents :smalltongue:. And so, could we possibly end random babbling and insulting each other and get back to important matters, like cosmology or FI?

Edit: \/ Words can hurt, Nameless :smallfrown:

Nameless
2009-01-08, 12:34 PM
orly? Me too :smalltongue:

YARLY!


... get back to important matters, like cosmology or FI?

LUL

chriky
2009-01-08, 02:29 PM
I got home from school today and turned the computer on.
Suddenly it turns itself of with the Tv and all the lights.
So i've been stuck in a blackout for 4 hours and know i've had to read through all 6 pages that I only skimmed through this morning.

Great day so far. :smallsigh:

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-08, 02:38 PM
Welcome to life Chriky, it sucks, then you die. :smalltongue:

Bayar
2009-01-08, 02:43 PM
Welcome to life Chriky, it sucks, then you die. :smalltongue:

Preach it sister !

chriky
2009-01-08, 02:44 PM
I was thinking about making a questionnairre with questions like:

Which ABRer do you find most anoying?
Which ABR character do you find most annoying?
Who is your favourite ABRer?

And so on.
What do you think?

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-08, 02:46 PM
Hmm, I don't see any good coming from that. None at all. Telling people you find them or their characters annoying scares away the happy. Especially if a single person was to be picked by the majority, then we'd lose an Abrer. Which will also kill the happy.

And then I will have to destroy all of you.

I like the happy..

BRC
2009-01-08, 02:50 PM
Happiness is Mandatory.

Bayar
2009-01-08, 02:52 PM
Hmm, I don't see any good coming from that. None at all. Telling people you find them or their characters annoying scares away the happy. Especially if a single person was to be picked by the majority, then we'd lose an Abrer. Which will also kill the happy.

And then I will have to destroy all of you.

I like the happy..

Or maybe everyone will vote Squark...on the first 2...

Keveak
2009-01-08, 02:56 PM
Welcome to life Chriky, it sucks, then you die. :smalltongue:

Then you awakes by mouth-to-mouth and dies later. Then you beats up the devil and take controll of Hell. Then it's heavens time.........,,,.,.,.,.,,,,.

chriky
2009-01-08, 02:57 PM
How about I just ask nice questions.

e.g, funniest, most style, overall favourite.

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-08, 03:02 PM
How about I just ask nice questions.

e.g, funniest, most style, overall favourite.

I personally don't like the idea. Excuse the mush, but friends aren't supposed to choose between each other. Even if it's only for fun. Nothing good ever comes of it.

Mush provided by love inc <3

Green-Shirt Q
2009-01-08, 03:14 PM
Which ABRer do you find most anoying?
Which ABR character do you find most annoying?
Who is your favourite ABRer?

The answer to your questions in order:
Lying,
Lying,
Q.

*egotism mode activated*

Here's another question to add to the list: Is the_Q a great man or the greatest man who ever lived? :smallbiggrin:

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-08, 03:31 PM
As regards the Ethereal Plane discussions, I've always had a fondness for FFX's "Unsent" status. Not for the concept of souls requiring a funeral to move on to the afterlife, but for the sheer grit a person staying back from supposed paradise for something mortal and mundane. Auron proved this could be a powerful and emotive story element, in a time when the word "ghost" made everyone consider white bedsheets momentarily.

So here's a few ideas for the Ethereal Plane:


Traditional misty locations, maybe throw in some film noir elements as colour (Often synonymous with "life") ebbs and flows through the somehow-grim reflections of the material world. Only those with any form of indecision about their afterlife, and some notable monsters, arrive naturally in the Ethereal Plane.

The Ethereal Plane should certainly represent a kind of half-way house between the mortal world and the afterlife, wherever that may be. As such, it serves a purpose for every conventional deity in existence.


We could consider then that the warring elements of each deity's personality, but ultimately that leaves a system that is simply inefficient and rife with flaws. What this "stairway to heaven/escalator to hell" needs is some organisation.

So I'll consider adding organisation in the similar manner to an MMO. That is to say, instance zones.

So naturally this place is going to need locations corresponding to the stages of this half-way house. So we need a place for souls to arrive, wander about making their choices (if any), and a place for them to finally go.

The Barge of Souls
The Barge (Aesthetically a greatship with an infinite number of internal rooms) floats about in the upper limits of the sky and serves as a focus point for all newly dead souls to arrive. In theory you could hang around here forever but the crew of the ship (Nigh-skeletal Maruts, the inevitability of death here is represented by the inevitability of moving on with your afterlife) get more than a little touchy when you don't disembark as the barge arrives at the next instance zone.

When not letting everyone inside depart, the barge sails around the Ethereal Plane gathering souls wherever it goes. Paradoxically, the ship seems able to be everywhere at once, because no new soul to the plane ever reports having to wait more than a few seconds before the ship's shadow looms overhead.

Heavenly Chorus, aka Endsville
Heavenly Chorus is a massive city in the exact center of the Ethereal Plane, at its center being a massive dock where the Barge of Souls periodically lands at least once an hour (Appearing more frequently in times of particularly high death rates).

Heavenly Chorus was literally founded by gods during an uneasy truce that today is even more uneasy. It is staffed largely by the souls of people who decided either never to leave the plane, people who have yet to decide, and by Inevitables trying to make them all leave.

Though basically unnecessary, the city features everything most mortal cities have, including taverns, hotels, and brothels. It should be noted that sins in Heavenly Chorus still count towards your ultimate sentence, so if you have doubts drowning them in the bosom of a dead prostitute is not a wise move for the virtuous.

End Street
The prime attraction for Endsville (A name given by some of the more cynical failed-launchers) is End Street, a circular maze of buildings immediately in the vicinity of the dock. Each building is essentially the gateway to a different afterlife, for some this means an application process (Remember those brothels) and for others this means a revolving door. If the decision to leave to the afterlife is made anywhere in the city, the soul is immediately drawn through the appropriate door. Indecision is the only thing that allows a choice of afterlife, and even then there is usually some form of application process to ensure the afterlife is appropriate for the soul.

Working in the streets of the city are various deific servants and infernal mercenaries, all trying to tempt souls closer to their afterlives (Depending on the employing/hiring parties, a specific afterlife).

chriky
2009-01-08, 03:36 PM
I personally don't like the idea. Excuse the mush, but friends aren't supposed to choose between each other. Even if it's only for fun. Nothing good ever comes of it.

Mush provided by love inc <3

I see what you mean.

It was just an idea anyway.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-08, 05:43 PM
Shades of Gray (Hammer ninja) was last seen with Jason Doomblade and Kpenguin, trying to find Salmon. KP left them, so right now he is freezing his butt of in Alphantica.

The Gremlin
2009-01-08, 06:36 PM
(snip)

Hmm. Well, given that this seems to contradict all the work Shades and I have done so far, I'm gonna say no...
Of course, that's mainly because I just want my idea to flourish.:smalltongue:
Anyways, I'm working on what will hopefully be my last MS Paint drawing.
But I've been hearing things about this 'Paint.net'. Apparently it's like MS, but better. What do you guys think about it?:smallconfused:
EDIT: Nevermind, I looked into it, and found out that it takes a lot of space. I'll stick with Inkscape.

Beans
2009-01-08, 07:10 PM
Hmm. Well, given that this seems to contradict all the work Shades and I have done so far, I'm gonna say no...
Of course, that's mainly because I just want my idea to flourish.:smalltongue:
Anyways, I'm working on what will hopefully be my last MS Paint drawing.
But I've been hearing things about this 'Paint.net'. Apparently it's like MS, but better. What do you guys think about it?:smallconfused:
I would recommend Inkscape. It's free. It's a vector program, so once you draw something you can copy/paste/cut/edit/move/rotate it and such. Never having to re-draw that same pesky sword over and over is a great time.

The Gremlin
2009-01-08, 07:14 PM
I would recommend Inkscape. It's free. It's a vector program, so once you draw something you can copy/paste/cut/edit/move/rotate it and such. Never having to re-draw that same pesky sword over and over is a great time.

Alright, I was just wondering if there might be a program where I wouldn't have to adjust so much. But you're probably right, it'll be best in teh long run.

Beans
2009-01-08, 07:18 PM
Alright, I was just wondering if there might be a program where I wouldn't have to adjust so much. But you're probably right, it'll be best in teh long run.
You be's right. I fell in love with it, and it allowed me to make an undead cranky squid-dude/chick (illithids are hermaphrodites. Alrighty then.) in a black leather dress.
So awesome.

Darklord Bright
2009-01-08, 07:26 PM
I dunno, I myself never really liked inkscape. I found it was just a little too complicated for the basic stuff I tend to do, but you might have a better time with it, Grem. Just thought you should hear a vote against it as well, though I'll probably end up switching to it sooner or later.

Beans
2009-01-08, 07:30 PM
On a different note...
I'm assuming that someone will eventually respond to Thryza; if anyone needs some suggestions as to the stuff he'd say and how he'd say it, I'm here.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-08, 07:32 PM
@Gremlin, I didn't say I'd use your ideas for the the ethereal plane, I just said If you left we'd use mine:smalltongue:

We need to vote/debate what makes people come back as ghosts.

A) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, and can't interfere with the material plane (Think Eugene Greenhilt)
B) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, to do something important,
C) People choose to stay as ghosts, but don't get the pleasure of an afterlife.
D) Any combinations of the above.

I personally think that the Soul Eaters should be inevitables, they just seem more... like inevitables. The Praeseans seem more like a race of outsiders.

BRC
2009-01-08, 07:48 PM
How about this, after Nameless reaps someone, they are sent to the ethereal plane. They can move around this plane, and they always know the way to the gate that leads to their appropriate afterlife, and they always feel an inclination to go there, so unless they have unfinished buisness, they will head to the gates on their own.

The Preseans are outsiders, who believe that these ghosts deserve to finish whatever buisness they have on the prime material, if they find a hesitant soul, they will often convince it to return to the prime material to finish whatever buisness it left behind. The Soul Eaters are Inevitables sen't to stop this, either by draggin the soul's kicking and screaming to their appropriate gate, or by convincing them to come along quietly....

Now, here's the kicker, Both sides are Lawful. They just subscribe to different laws. The Preseans subscribe to the law that people should carry through with what they started. The Soul Eaters subscribe to the law that the Dead should stay that way.

Hmm, Perhaps the two sides were origionally the same. They were created as stewards of the ethereal plane, and guides to the souls that appeared there. However, different Preseans interprited their role as "Guides" differently, some believed it was simply to expediate the Soul's trip to their appropriate afterlife, others believed it was to help the soul finish it's buisness in the material plane before going. Over the ages, their capablities and even appearances have changed according to their adherance to these philosophies. The Soul Eater's are not proper ineveitables, but they like to think of themselves as such, which is why they try to act and appear mechanical. They picture themselves as faceless enforcers of the laws.
The Preseans, who are sympathetic to the plight of the souls, adopt a more organic appearance, so better to relate with and convince a soul to finish it's buisness.

The Gremlin
2009-01-08, 07:56 PM
@Gremlin, I didn't say I'd use your ideas for the the ethereal plane, I just said If you left we'd use mine:smalltongue:

We need to vote/debate what makes people come back as ghosts.

A) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, and can't interfere with the material plane (Think Eugene Greenhilt)
B) People are forced to manifest as ghosts, to do something important,
C) People choose to stay as ghosts, but don't get the pleasure of an afterlife.
D) Any combinations of the above.

I personally think that the Soul Eaters should be inevitables, they just seem more... like inevitables. The Praeseans seem more like a race of outsiders.

Okay, how about neither of them are outsiders? However, there are rumors of confused maruts roaming the Ethereal Plane. And there are also devourers and stuff. The soul hunters (can we stop calling them soul eaters?) are mercenaries who sell the souls to the highest bidder.
The Praeseans are outsiders who are devoted to protecting the souls.
And I vote for D: All of the above. Most ghosts didn't choose to not pass on, but have some unfinished business. Some of these ghosts, however, do not have strong enough wills to manifest on the Material, thus resulting in some who are simply trapped on the Ethereal, simply waiting for some mage or planeswalker to find and help them*.
While some ghosts simply came about because they were too strong. They clung to life, so hard that they could not let go. Now they are stuck, in limbo (not literally), unable to go on to their afterlife. They can, however, visit teh Ethereal more often than most ghosts.
Thoughts?
*Hey, I just got an idea. How about a group of guys who are experienced with the Ethereal who are devoted to finding these trapped ghosts and helping to put them to rest? Just an idea.
Also, in my comic, can I call the next plot 'An Imperfect Future'? I think it sounds better.
/\I don't like that idea. It really contradicts all the work we've done so far, and my original idea that the Ethereal Plane is where the ghosts go. I didn't mean for it to be a place where ALL the souls go. And please, STOP CALLING THEM SOUL EATERS!!!

memnarch
2009-01-08, 11:58 PM
Hey Grem, is that a Geordi visor (http://www.bioethics.ac.uk/cmsfiles/images/news/geordi_la_forge.jpg)?

Darklord Bright
2009-01-09, 03:46 AM
Just a question, does anyone have any set voices (other then their own) for their characters in their head? For instance, Dark Lord Bright has an eviller-sounding version of Nameless' voice as far as I'm concerned. Add a bit more malice and some echo and that's it.

Nameless
2009-01-09, 05:31 AM
Gremlin, I've already told you, MM is with me, Lying, Salmon, Fayte and the other guys. :smalltongue:

The Gremlin
2009-01-09, 09:39 AM
Gremlin, I've already told you, MM is with me, Lying, Salmon, Fayte and the other guys. :smalltongue:

You had better be joking here.:smallannoyed:
I've already said that it was a 'random unexplainable clone'.
EDIT: D_Lord Bright, when you save your comics, save them as png. They save way better, and the resolution doesn't get messed up.

Fay Graydon
2009-01-09, 09:51 AM
Gremlin, I've already told you, MM is with me, Lying, Salmon, Fayte and the other guys. :smalltongue:

*Yawn* huh? what?
*looks at Namelesses post* WOHOO! recognition :smallbiggrin:
...
I should make a comic ¬.¬....
(hmmmm but ive got Orks to make....
comic... orks... comic.... orks.......)

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-09, 10:08 AM
My weekend time is going to be split between comicry and filming/editing, but hopefully I'll actually get around to resurrecting Threeshades sometime before Monday.

The Gremlin
2009-01-09, 10:52 AM
Hey Grem, is that a Geordi visor (http://www.bioethics.ac.uk/cmsfiles/images/news/geordi_la_forge.jpg)?

No, though it's based on it. This visor is an object which enhances divination powers.

Nameless
2009-01-09, 12:10 PM
You had better be joking here.:smallannoyed:
I've already said that it was a 'random unexplainable clone'.
EDIT: D_Lord Bright, when you save your comics, save them as png. They save way better, and the resolution doesn't get messed up.

That's just an excuse. :smallannoyed: :smalltongue:

Keveak
2009-01-09, 01:46 PM
You had better be joking here.:smallannoyed:
I've already said that it was a 'random unexplainable clone'.
EDIT: D_Lord Bright, when you save your comics, save them as png. They save way better, and the resolution doesn't get messed up.

Wich had nothing to do with Nilrem the Ninga.
>_>
<_<

Shades of Gray
2009-01-09, 04:06 PM
How about this, after Nameless reaps someone, they are sent to the ethereal plane. They can move around this plane, and they always know the way to the gate that leads to their appropriate afterlife, and they always feel an inclination to go there, so unless they have unfinished buisness, they will head to the gates on their own.

The Preseans are outsiders, who believe that these ghosts deserve to finish whatever buisness they have on the prime material, if they find a hesitant soul, they will often convince it to return to the prime material to finish whatever buisness it left behind. The Soul Eaters are Inevitables sen't to stop this, either by draggin the soul's kicking and screaming to their appropriate gate, or by convincing them to come along quietly....

Now, here's the kicker, Both sides are Lawful. They just subscribe to different laws. The Preseans subscribe to the law that people should carry through with what they started. The Soul Eaters subscribe to the law that the Dead should stay that way.

Hmm, Perhaps the two sides were origionally the same. They were created as stewards of the ethereal plane, and guides to the souls that appeared there. However, different Preseans interprited their role as "Guides" differently, some believed it was simply to expediate the Soul's trip to their appropriate afterlife, others believed it was to help the soul finish it's buisness in the material plane before going. Over the ages, their capablities and even appearances have changed according to their adherance to these philosophies. The Soul Eater's are not proper ineveitables, but they like to think of themselves as such, which is why they try to act and appear mechanical. They picture themselves as faceless enforcers of the laws.
The Preseans, who are sympathetic to the plight of the souls, adopt a more organic appearance, so better to relate with and convince a soul to finish it's buisness.

I actually like BRC's idea, minus the paragraph with them being the same once.

Keveak
2009-01-09, 04:25 PM
@Shades of Gray: Is it okay for Oliver to be included in Ninga history briefly because of a visit to their (demi)plane? (I'm gonna make them and Nilrem a wiki page. Togeter since they aren't important enough to make onne each.)

EDIT:Done.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-09, 04:46 PM
Sure, but nothing too major. He only visits the lesser planes for a year tops. (With the exception of the plane of catgirls:smalltongue:)

The Gremlin
2009-01-09, 05:52 PM
Wich had nothing to do with Nilrem the Ninga.
>_>
<_<

You mean that robot thing? What does he have to do with clones?:smallconfused:

Keveak
2009-01-09, 05:56 PM
You mean that robot thing? What does he have to do with clones?:smallconfused:

It's a Ninga! They are made of living shadow with boots and hats (for refference look in my sig in the "Ningas!" spoiler). That one was a sorcerer and I was joking tough it could explain it... (Explain why there is a clone if you don't get it)

evil_d4_swarm
2009-01-09, 05:57 PM
:smalleek::smalleek:

I leave for two days to do homework and 10 pages sprout up?!!

:smalleek::smalleek:

Eh, well... anything big go over while I was toiling away on my science fair project? Probably no...

Szilard
2009-01-09, 06:57 PM
Just pointless arguements. Nothing much.

Now I need to go finish making that comic...

The Gremlin
2009-01-09, 07:21 PM
:smalleek::smalleek:

I leave for two days to do homework and 10 pages sprout up?!!

:smalleek::smalleek:

Eh, well... anything big go over while I was toiling away on my science fair project? Probably no...

You're right, that is pretty slow.:smalltongue:
And, actually, yes. We talked about (and are, in fact, still talking about)what the Ethereal Plane is. I nearly left, but changed my mind and instead left FFF I. I am now trying to learn to use Inkscape.
There was a movement (put forth by me, feel pretty stupid about it now)to ban CA from ABR. Suffice to say, it failed.
And Vikings riding giant eagles continued to be awesomesauce.

DoomITP
2009-01-09, 11:24 PM
glad to see the forum back up :smallbiggrin:

kpenguin
2009-01-10, 03:15 AM
You're right, that is pretty slow.:smalltongue:
And, actually, yes. We talked about (and are, in fact, still talking about)what the Ethereal Plane is. I nearly left, but changed my mind and instead left FFF I. I am now trying to learn to use Inkscape.
There was a movement (put forth by me, feel pretty stupid about it now)to ban CA from ABR. Suffice to say, it failed.
And Vikings riding giant eagles continued to be awesomesauce.

Don't forget how I invaded MM's privacy. :smalltongue:

Keveak
2009-01-10, 07:53 AM
Don't forget how I invaded MM's privacy. :smalltongue:

Yup. Now lets find soe more about him (And everybody else we can find stuff about). I guess his name is Stephen Lewis....


@V: According to what Kpenguin sayed your mothers surname is Lewis, furthermore your ABR character is named Stephen (Oliver is Shades of Grays real name so why should Stephen not be yours) And it was just a guess I made for fun.

Mad Mask
2009-01-10, 07:55 AM
Yup. Now lets find soe more about him (And everybody else we can find stuff about). I guess his name is Stephen Lewis....

What makes you think that ?

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-10, 08:17 AM
I'm reasonably certain we're on the verge of stalking now

Beans
2009-01-10, 08:18 AM
What's this ABR thing I hear so much about these days?

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-10, 08:22 AM
What's this ABR thing I hear so much about these days?

*blinks*
http://abr.wetpaint.com/page/Fat+Fish+Fury

*pokes*


I'm reasonably certain we're on the verge of stalking now
They're way past it. :smalltongue:

Keveak
2009-01-10, 09:10 AM
I'm reasonably certain we're on the verge of stalking now

Stalking is bad?! *Goes away from Tom Shaer*
>_>
<_<
What about sniping? *Aims at Tom Shaer*


EDIT:
@V: Oh right wrong name.

Szilard
2009-01-10, 09:43 AM
It's not that easy to kill death.:smalltongue:

Threeshades
2009-01-10, 09:54 AM
It's not that easy to kill death.:smalltongue:

When we can travel back in time to prevent something we've seen in the future, we can also create other paradoxons.

chriky
2009-01-10, 10:01 AM
It's not that easy to kill death.:smalltongue:

He didn't say he was gonna kill him, he said he was gonna shoot him.

Threeshades
2009-01-10, 10:02 AM
He didn't say he was gonna kill him, he said he was gonna shoot him.

Actually he didnt say that either.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-01-10, 10:11 AM
He said he was aiming for him, so he may just be gunning for his job

Ba-dum-tsch

Shades of Gray
2009-01-10, 10:24 AM
Stick to the vidcasts Tim.

kpenguin
2009-01-10, 02:48 PM
Yup. Now lets find soe more about him (And everybody else we can find stuff about). I guess his name is Stephen Lewis....


@V: According to what Kpenguin sayed your mothers surname is Lewis, furthermore your ABR character is named Stephen (Oliver is Shades of Grays real name so why should Stephen not be yours) And it was just a guess I made for fun.

That's silly.

I have my suspcicions as to MM's first name, but I don't think MM will appreciate me going any further into his privacy.

The Gremlin
2009-01-10, 02:55 PM
That's silly.

I have my suspcicions as to MM's first name, but I don't think MM will appreciate me going any further into his privacy.

I thought he said once that his first name was Stephen. But you're right, let's not pry.:smallsmile:

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-01-10, 05:32 PM
Wow, don't think the Abr discussion threads have had a day this slow in..er.. ever.
(At least when the forums are working) :smalltongue: