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afroakuma
2009-01-20, 12:03 AM
Here for a sixth round, prepare for vast disappointment! This contest aims to create a D&D villain, and only a villain this time, complete with fluff! Please bold your vote.

I am pleased to present the resulting villain, Prince Meridius (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5712242#post5712242)!

Contests that have gone before (or are currently running):
Vote Up a Monster (3.X) #1 by Zeta Kai
Result: the Gatekeeper

Vote Up a Monster (3.X) #2 by Zeta Kai
Result: the Deus ex Machina

Vote Up a Monster (3.X) #3 by Zeta Kai
Result: the Ectoplasmic Swarm

Vote Up a Monster (3.X) #4 by Zeta Kai
Result: the Polymental

Vote Up a Monster (4E) #1 by Shadow_Elf
Result: the Songbird Spirit

Vote Up a Monster (4E) #2 by Shadow_Elf
Result: the Pandora's Paradox

Vote Up a Villain (3.X) #1 by afroakuma
Result: the Maidenís Weeping/Swain of Varrone

Vote Up a Villain (3.X) #2 by afroakuma
Result: the Caillteanas

Vote Up a Villain (3.X) #3 by afroakuma
Result: Dandag the Quiet

Vote Up a Villain (3.X) #4 by afroakuma
Result: the Augmoha

Vote Up a Villain (3.X) #5 by afroakuma
Result: the Silver Hellstar

Vote Up A Campaign Setting by Zeta Kai, Shadow_Elf and afroakuma (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96183)
Result: Pending



Currently Voting On: Voting Closed, Villain Complete

1. Type: Humanoid


{table=head]Type|Votes
Aberration|4
Animal|2
Construct|
Dragon|2
Elemental|2
Fey|
Giant|
Humanoid|16
Magical Beast|2
Monstrous Humanoid|5
Ooze|1
Outsider|1
Plant|1
Undead|
Vermin|1
[/table]

2. Race/Species: Merfolk
Vote for any Humanoid type monster from any 3.X WotC source. The current table contains only humanoids from the Monster Manual and Player's Handbook. If you vote for a creature in another source, please list that source with your vote.

{table=head]Humanoid Race|Votes
Bugbear|
Dwarf|
Elf|
Githyanki|
Githzerai|12
Gnoll|
Gnome|3
Goblin|
Half-Elf|
Half-Orc|
Halfling|
Hobgoblin|
Human|
Kobold|5
Lizardfolk|
Locathah|
Merfolk|14
Mongrelfolk|1
Orc|1
Troglodyte|1
Unique (Mundane)|
Unique (Exotic)|1
[/table]

2b. Class: Sorcerer
You may vote for other classes, but please bear in mind that certain classes have been disallowed. Non-core classes are italicized.

{table=head]Class|Votes|Class|Votes
Artificier||Ninja (new)|
Barbarian|1|Paladin|
Bard|2|Psion|1
Beguiler|1|Psychic Warrior|
Cleric|1|Ranger|1
Crusader|1|Rogue|
Druid|5|Samurai (new)|
Duskblade||Scout|
Favored Soul|5|Sorcerer|9
Fighter||Swordsage|
Healer||Warblade|
Hexblade||Warlock|
Matador (new)||Wilder|
Marshal||Wizard|
Monk||None|
[/table]

3. CR: 4

{table=head]CR|Votes
1|
2|
3|
4|12
5|1
6|10
7|2
8|1
9|
10|
11|
12|
13|
14|3
15|
16|
17|
18|
19|
20|
[/table]

4. Alignment: Neutral Evil

{table=head]Alignment|Votes|Alignment|Votes|Alignment|Votes
Lawful Good|1|Neutral Good||Chaotic Good|1
Lawful Neutral|1|Neutral|1|Chaotic Neutral|1
Lawful Evil|6|Neutral Evil|13|Chaotic Evil|3
[/table]

5. Primary Motivation: Ambition

{table=head]Motivation|Votes
Ambition|11
Anarchy|
Arrogance|
Curiosity|5
Depression|
Entertainment|
Envy|
Greater good|2
Greed|
Hunger|9
Insanity|
Justice|
Logic|
Love|
Malevolence|
Order|
Punch-clock villainy|1
Rage|1
Revenge|1
Selfishness|
Self-loathing|
Spite|1
Survival|1
[/table]

LordZarth
2009-01-20, 12:14 AM
And I rest my case. Afroakuma is crazy/has WAY too much time on his hands.

Humanoid. Let's have a human. A really, really fleshed out, evil, evil villain human. With organization. And adventure. And campaign. And... and...

thegurullamen
2009-01-20, 12:22 AM
Yeah, I'll agree with Zarth. On both counts.

Humanoid because anthro-villains are more monstrous than anything else.

Ekeralos
2009-01-20, 12:22 AM
I vote Monstrous humanoid.

Shades of Gray
2009-01-20, 12:24 AM
Humanoid, just a standard humanoid. No plants, swarms, or vermin, humanoids.

MammonAzrael
2009-01-20, 12:35 AM
I'm going to say Elemental.

DracoDei
2009-01-20, 12:59 AM
I guess I will jump on the bandwagon with Humanoid.

Keler
2009-01-20, 01:07 AM
My vote goes to Vermin.

Pictogram
2009-01-20, 01:11 AM
Animal, I say.

RTGoodman
2009-01-20, 01:31 AM
Hmm... how 'bout Monstrous Humanoid.

vegetalss4
2009-01-20, 02:06 AM
I vote for elemental

blackspeeker
2009-01-20, 02:06 AM
I've been jonz'n for an ooze. Since these began.

Hadrian_Emrys
2009-01-20, 02:50 AM
Humanoid. I'd like to steer the vote towards as low a CR boss as possible. New heroes are just as heroic as seasoned ones.

Draz74
2009-01-20, 03:16 AM
Humanoid. Some villain whose main distinctions are in personality and skill, not biology.

Lord Mancow
2009-01-20, 07:02 AM
Monstrous humanoid, but preferably one with some sort of shape changing magic so it can look human then ambush them from another direction.

You could even operate it as two villians one shape changed and the other not.

Zeta Kai
2009-01-20, 07:04 AM
I agree with the above points. Humanoid.

afroakuma
2009-01-20, 07:35 AM
Well it's about time; after all, I did finish the other one.

vitorgas
2009-01-20, 08:05 AM
I vote for Humanoid.

cnsvnc
2009-01-20, 08:12 AM
It's about time we get a human(oid) from these stuff. Wonder if anyone'll be crazy enough to ask for a swarm...

Debihuman
2009-01-20, 09:32 AM
I think humanoids make the best villains and it would be nice to see one that isn't so over the top.

Debby

Thane of Fife
2009-01-20, 10:12 AM
I'll vote Outsider. I'd like to see a Yugoloth or something.

Llama231
2009-01-20, 10:17 AM
We need a plant villain.
Besides Orcworts, nothing even comes close to this besides generic monsters.:smallfrown:

The Neoclassic
2009-01-20, 10:18 AM
Monstrous humanoid strikes me as more exciting than just a regular humanoid. :smallsmile:

Adumbration
2009-01-20, 10:19 AM
Humanoid. Becouse less exciting is sometimes more exciting.

Magnor Criol
2009-01-20, 10:55 AM
I'll cast a vote for Dragon. There's a whole lot of directions you could go with a dragon.

Of course, the same could be said for humanoid.

afroakuma
2009-01-20, 11:12 AM
There's a whole lot of directions I could go with anything; see previous villains.

Limos
2009-01-20, 11:30 AM
All aboard the Bandwagon!

Humanoid

UnChosenOne
2009-01-20, 11:35 AM
Humanoid. Yes, I'm realy voting humanoid.

Edwin
2009-01-20, 12:42 PM
Just to go against the stream, I'll support the Monstrous Humanoid people.

The Neoclassic
2009-01-20, 01:01 PM
(When shall voting for type end and race begin? Just curious; I hope to keep up with this exciting democratic activity.)

arguskos
2009-01-20, 01:58 PM
/bandwagon

Humanoid

Athaniar
2009-01-20, 02:04 PM
Humanoid. Because I want a lizardfolk or kobold villain.

Limos
2009-01-20, 02:24 PM
Humanoid. Because I want a lizardfolk or kobold villain.

Oh God yes! Kobold Villain would rock my socks.

Owrtho
2009-01-20, 02:28 PM
Humanoids are useless and should be removed from dnd. Thus I'll vote for Aberration the new humanoid.

Owrtho

puppyavenger
2009-01-20, 02:39 PM
I haven't gotten an aberration yet, so aberation

Zeful
2009-01-20, 02:50 PM
Animal, or at the very least a possessed puppy.

afroakuma
2009-01-20, 03:32 PM
0000 EST is the standard rotation.

Juhn
2009-01-20, 05:32 PM
Ah, I'd been meaning to ask you if you ever completed that dungeon. Evidently the answer was yes.

I believe during the last one of these I'd said I'd vote Magical Beast next time, so here.

Shadow_Elf
2009-01-20, 06:15 PM
I posted the result of VUAM 4e #2, by the way, in a new thread to avoid thread necromancying the old one. But noone was interested, because of VUAV V and VUACS. So Pandora's Paradox is not pending anymore, but I can't find the link.

Also, chalk one up for Aberration. I'm cool with either a Beholder villain (no one takes advantage of their being... intelligent!), or an Illithilich.

Mercenary Pen
2009-01-20, 07:00 PM
I'm gonna vote Magical Beast

Magnor Criol
2009-01-20, 07:38 PM
There's a whole lot of directions I could go with anything; see previous villains.

Oh, naturally; you were able to pull a villain out of a plant, for pete's sake.

The "you" there was more of a general sense, i.e. "there's a whole lot of directions one could go in with dragon," than you, specifically.

It....hardly matters at this point, but I don't see my vote for dragon tallied up there.

Zeta Kai
2009-01-20, 07:58 PM
Well it's about time; after all, I did finish the other one.

To whit, I throw your words back at thee...


A homebrewer's work is never done. Well, I mean, sure, I close out all my projects on something approaching a reasoned schedule... :smalltongue:

:smallwink:

afroakuma
2009-01-20, 09:03 PM
Well sure, but do you know how tedious it is to do up an epic-level dungeon? :smallyuk:

Juhn
2009-01-20, 09:20 PM
I don't remember there being any mention of an included dungeon in the first post of VUAV5. You have no-one to blame for your extra content but yourself. :smalltongue:

afroakuma
2009-01-20, 10:04 PM
I'm not ascribing blame. Merely irritable that the SRD was so lax on epic traps that I was forced to invent a freezing web of doom.

Shadow_Elf
2009-01-20, 10:11 PM
I was forced to invent a freezing web of doom.
GASP! Oh noes!

Zeta Kai
2009-01-20, 10:14 PM
I'm not ascribing blame. Merely irritable that the SRD was so lax on epic traps that I was forced to invent a freezing web of doom.

Their design philosophy was that no trap should have a CR higher than 10. I disagree with this concept on multiple grounds. Why can't traps be epic?

Alteran
2009-01-20, 10:16 PM
I'm going to throw in a vote for Aberration. A beholder villain would be awesome, if only it stood a chance of winning.

afroakuma
2009-01-20, 10:30 PM
Alrighty, turns out Shadow did finish his old old old monster. Check for it in the main post's links.

Terror_Incognito
2009-01-20, 10:48 PM
I vote Dragon, because you can't have spell "D&D" without Dragon.

Reverent-One
2009-01-20, 11:05 PM
Alrighty, turns out Shadow did finish his old old old monster. Check for it in the main post's links.

Supposed link to pandora's paradox does not go to the pandora's paradox.

Juhn
2009-01-20, 11:05 PM
I remembered seeing it before. I believe I included it in that absurdly long list I sent you before, afro.

Shadow_Elf
2009-01-20, 11:09 PM
It seems the link I thought I'd found was redirected.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99293
(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99293)
^ That one works.

afroakuma
2009-01-20, 11:10 PM
No, I left out a 7. It works now. :smallredface:

LordZarth
2009-01-21, 12:15 AM
Isn't it rollover time? :smallredface:

thegurullamen
2009-01-21, 01:19 AM
Hear, hear! What say you, 'akuma?

The Tygre
2009-01-21, 01:23 AM
Screw it:

Monstrous Humanoid.

afroakuma
2009-01-21, 07:25 AM
Screw it: Your vote no count.

You know, you guys can start voting without me.

afroakuma
2009-01-21, 07:34 AM
Well, by overwhelming majority the votes went to Humanoid!

So now we need this anthropomorphic antagonist's Race.

vitorgas
2009-01-21, 07:40 AM
Kobold, a tiny draconic badass.

Mercenary Pen
2009-01-21, 07:41 AM
Chalk one up for Githzerai please.

The Neoclassic
2009-01-21, 08:00 AM
Kobold, most certainly.

Debihuman
2009-01-21, 08:30 AM
I vote for MERFOLK because they usually aren't villains.
Debby

afroakuma
2009-01-21, 08:32 AM
But just look what they did to poor Ursula! :smallwink:

Keler
2009-01-21, 09:09 AM
I wonder how a Gnome villain would be.

Limos
2009-01-21, 10:19 AM
Kobold, because that would be ****ing sweet. A small sized villain.

Llama231
2009-01-21, 10:29 AM
Troglodyte here.

UnChosenOne
2009-01-21, 10:55 AM
Unique (Exotic).

Shadow_Elf
2009-01-21, 11:10 AM
Can we apply a template to the villain later on? Like Lich?

Also, Merfolk.

TOTAL DOMINATION OF THE SEAS!

puppyavenger
2009-01-21, 11:19 AM
unique exotic

Pictogram
2009-01-21, 11:54 AM
I say gnome, but please not an illusionist.

Adumbration
2009-01-21, 11:56 AM
Mongrelfolk, from Races of Destiny.

Is that a short, ugly elf, or a tall dwarf? An oversized gnome, perhaps?

vegetalss4
2009-01-21, 12:02 PM
human, the worst vilians are always human

LordZarth
2009-01-21, 12:30 PM
I started the humanoid bandwagon for humans! Wee dawn lik yur kynd heer.

HUMAN!

LordZarth
2009-01-21, 12:31 PM
You know, you guys can start voting without me.

Oh, really? Okelydokely!

cnsvnc
2009-01-21, 01:36 PM
We (we being humans of course) shall purge the world of all those subhuman beasts! Hopefully.

blackspeeker
2009-01-21, 01:37 PM
But just look what they did to poor Ursula! :smallwink:

You've convinced me with this, I choose merfolk, if only for the slim chance of seeing an obese mermoctopus come out of it.

Thane of Fife
2009-01-21, 01:46 PM
Since it's as close to Outsider as is likely, I'll vote Githzerai

Username
2009-01-21, 01:54 PM
You see quite a bit of githyanki usage as villains, but Githerzai? Now That's unusual.

Reverent-One
2009-01-21, 01:56 PM
I'm going Kobold.

gothmog26
2009-01-21, 02:20 PM
I'm going with mongrelfok.

thegurullamen
2009-01-21, 02:40 PM
Damn, githzerai or gnome? Githzerai or gnome? Githzerai or freaking gnome? This is difficult...

Githzerai

Zeful
2009-01-21, 02:42 PM
Orc. Just because

Zeta Kai
2009-01-21, 03:09 PM
I shall vote for Merfolk, as that should prove most interesting.

Mercenary Pen
2009-01-21, 03:11 PM
I assume Afro's at work or something just at the moment, but this is actually shaping up to be quite a race.

Nothing has a massive lead as yet, but the front-runners include Kobolds, Githzerai, Merfolk and the ubiquitous Humans (although none of these have more than a 4 point lead on any other option).

Could the winning race be one of these, or are we about to see something else entirely come from behind to win the day? Find out within the next few hours as we continue to Vote up a Villain.:smallwink:

And now, to return you to your regularly scheduled internet topic.

Juhn
2009-01-21, 04:20 PM
Partially because Kobolds are getting quite a suitable amount of love in the VUACS threads - at least IMO, I'm gonna vote Merfolk. Plus, come on, Merfolk. We've got to get back to the evil Merfolk. As sirens, or the man-eating eastern variety, or wikipedia provides these two options as well:


Other stories have them squeezing the life out of drowning men while attempting to rescue them.

others say they drown men out of spite.

That second one has the Motivation I've been trying to get through one of these times right in there, so Merfolk is certainly getting my vote. Of course, afro is more than likely to go in a direction entirely his own regardless of what wins, and it will of course also result in awesome.

Athaniar
2009-01-21, 04:54 PM
Power to the kobolds!

afroakuma
2009-01-21, 05:14 PM
Of course, afro is more than likely to go in a direction entirely his own regardless of what wins, and it will of course also result in awesome.

Yeah, I'm a jerk that way. :smallamused:

Merc: Yeah, I was at work. Happens.

Adumbration/anyone: Can someone post a Mongrelfolk image so I can link to it on the scoreboard?

puppyavenger
2009-01-21, 05:20 PM
I going to change my vote from unique exotic to merfolk

Llama231
2009-01-21, 06:12 PM
We need a plant villain.
Besides Orcworts, nothing even comes close to this besides generic monsters.:smallfrown:

#Edit: Wow.:smallannoyed: I completely missed the first vote up a villain plant.

arguskos
2009-01-21, 07:07 PM
Githzerai, because we need more awesome chaos-monk villains. Gotta love them there githzerai.

Notably, if githzerai wins, will you be using the MM version, or the XPH version?

Alteran
2009-01-21, 07:12 PM
Githerzerai, please.

afroakuma
2009-01-21, 07:14 PM
Notably, if githzerai wins, will you be using the MM version, or the XPH version?

Well, that all depends.

DracoDei
2009-01-21, 07:20 PM
Merfolk sounds interesting... I considered several other options to make sure I wasn't just jumping on the band-wagon, but that is the one I see listed that really catches my interest the most.

Zeta Kai
2009-01-21, 07:21 PM
Can someone post a Mongrelfolk image so I can link to it on the scoreboard?

Here you go; take your pick:
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/rod_gallery/86338.jpg
http://www.iwozhere.com/SRD/images/50086.jpg

Terror_Incognito
2009-01-21, 07:54 PM
Since we didn't get a Dragon I would like to vote for Kobold.

arguskos
2009-01-21, 07:56 PM
Well, that all depends.
Hmm. I'll take my chances! Lessee what the class turns out to be (if githzerai wins).

LordZarth
2009-01-21, 08:48 PM
I shall wait a couple more hours and see if human garners more votes, AS IT SHOULD, but if not, I shall switch my vote to kobold. I urge you all to do so, so the gith (who are UNNATURAL :D) do not win.

Llama231
2009-01-21, 08:50 PM
I would like my vote of troglodyte changed to kobold to stop the gith or mermaid.

afroakuma
2009-01-21, 08:53 PM
Quite a war this is turning out to be.

Lord Mancow
2009-01-21, 09:10 PM
Githzerai for psionic power!

LordZarth
2009-01-21, 09:24 PM
I, Lord LordZarth, Lord of Bandwagons, switch my vote to Kobolds! Never shall the githzerai or merfolk win this one!

Although, you know, I did want a human. So, yeah. Just, you know... saying.

Magnor Criol
2009-01-21, 09:27 PM
I don't know why the hate for gith and merfolk. They're very underrepresented. Kobolds, while kinda fun, are pretty commonly used, really.

Mongrelfolk would be interesting....but...no, I'll still cast my vote for Githzerai.

afroakuma
2009-01-21, 09:44 PM
This one may actually be too close to call tonight.

Gorgondantess
2009-01-21, 09:52 PM
I'll cast my vote for merfolk... just to make things interesting.

Sereg
2009-01-22, 07:01 AM
I've decided to go with merfolk.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 07:14 AM
I've decided to go with Due to the forum outage and three-way tie, voting will be extended through today.

Sereg
2009-01-22, 07:29 AM
I've decided to go with Due to the forum outage and three-way tie, voting will be extended through today.

or you know, you could do all three. I know I'm pushing my luck but I don't doubt your Power.

vegetalss4
2009-01-22, 08:09 AM
in that case, i am chaning my vote from humans, to the true marsters in chaos Githzerai

Adumbration
2009-01-22, 08:24 AM
I'll swap my vote to Merfolk, then. Should be interesting.

Ellardin
2009-01-22, 08:40 AM
I vote for Gnome You never see enought Gnomes out in the World these days ...

cnsvnc
2009-01-22, 08:46 AM
The subhuman conspiracists triumphed again. I am not amused...

Swapping my vote to merfolk, the foul aliens from outer plane shall not succeed.

Limos
2009-01-22, 10:52 AM
Gah! How can this be happening! My precious Kobolds!

vegetalss4
2009-01-22, 11:51 AM
Is it just me, or has this round become more of a i certainly don't want that race vote than a i certainly want that race

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 12:09 PM
Echoes of the giant riot.

For such a resisted Type, humanoid sure draws a lot of opinion.

puppyavenger
2009-01-22, 02:45 PM
I though merfolk were monstrous...

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 02:47 PM
Nice try, but it's nowhere near that easy to destroy an opposing faction.

They're Humanoid (aquatic).

The Tygre
2009-01-22, 02:50 PM
I'm puttin' my vote in for mermaid. Maybe it can be some kind of weird lamprey mermaid or angler fish mermaid. Yeah, that'd kick ass...

Mermaid.

Athaniar
2009-01-22, 02:50 PM
No! The kobolds shall not lose! I invoke the ancient kobold curse: Il rakkan az revola xi no azgalada ul ashjretul kobolda dargonai Eadrin, thul Gith, enkilgular Deekin fthagn!

puppyavenger
2009-01-22, 02:55 PM
Nice try, but it's nowhere near that easy to destroy an opposing faction.

They're Humanoid (aquatic).

I'm voting for them.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 02:58 PM
Nice try, but it's nowhere near that easy to destroy your own faction.

They're Humanoid (aquatic).

What? Huh?

I didn't hear anything.

puppyavenger
2009-01-22, 03:03 PM
What? Huh?

I didn't hear anything.

I'm not sure I understand you.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 03:07 PM
Many don't, I am told! :smallbiggrin:

Hopefully tomorrow we can shift to Class.

Belobog
2009-01-22, 03:10 PM
Githzerai. We barely see them play any kind of role, and thus, they'd be more interesting antagonists than Kobolds or Merfolk, who are kind of played out by comparison.

puppyavenger
2009-01-22, 03:12 PM
Githzerai. We barely see them play any kind of role, and thus, they'd be more interesting antagonists than Kobolds or Merfolk, who are kind of played out by comparison.

really, I thought merfolk villains were quite rare.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 03:18 PM
How many times do I need to bring this one (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=VyFVG4VfPmg&feature=related) up?

puppyavenger
2009-01-22, 03:20 PM
How many times do I need to bring this one (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=VyFVG4VfPmg&feature=related) up?

so that's one example?

Magnor Criol
2009-01-22, 03:26 PM
How many times do I need to bring this one (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=VyFVG4VfPmg&feature=related) up?

While Ursula is definitely a high-ranking villain, one example doesn't make the case not rare.

I knew merfolk were humanoid, but until this particular race, I thought that the Gith brothers were both outsiders. Considering, you know, they live on other planes...

thegurullamen
2009-01-22, 03:27 PM
If this doesn't resolve, are we getting a small sized, draconic, astral monk-fish?

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 03:27 PM
I'd add Morganna, but I just don't want to.

Juhn
2009-01-22, 04:34 PM
I knew merfolk were humanoid, but until this particular race, I thought that the Gith brothers were both outsiders. Considering, you know, they live on other planes...

Humanoid (Extraplanar), apparently.

Shadow_Elf
2009-01-22, 04:47 PM
If this doesn't resolve, are we getting a small sized, draconic, astral monk-fish?

Afro! I have found you a solution!
Make the villain's race this:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn212/tinkerbelleoffilth/dragon_mermaid.jpg
Also, it has psionic powers. You just can't see them.

Llama231
2009-01-22, 05:01 PM
Wow, this is a really close vote...

thegurullamen
2009-01-22, 05:34 PM
(hopeful) Villain triumvirate?

Username
2009-01-22, 06:16 PM
(hopeful) Villain triumvirate?

A villain team would be pretty cool, but I fear that would probably be placing unreasonable demands on poor Afro. Specially since he just did an epic Elder Evil so recently.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 06:17 PM
Where is it... ah, yes...


Quashhammer.
DESTROYING HOPES AND DREAMS SINCE 1988

Suleman
2009-01-22, 06:32 PM
Merfolk is my vote, if the vote for race is still on.

Juhn
2009-01-22, 06:32 PM
...Did we just get a birthyear?

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 06:45 PM
For what? :smallconfused:

Juhn
2009-01-22, 06:56 PM
1988

This here number.

EDIT: tags.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 07:13 PM
Yes, but I don't follow what it's supposed to be the birth year of.

puppyavenger
2009-01-22, 07:16 PM
so merfolk win now yes? since we got tiebreaker?

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 07:19 PM
Nope. Closes at the usual time. I extended it a full day since you folks couldn't agree.

Llama231
2009-01-22, 07:21 PM
I dislike merfolk, so could I have my vote changed from kobold to githzerai.
Also, the thing that shadow_elf posted could be interesting too.

MammonAzrael
2009-01-22, 07:43 PM
Githzerai for me, if the voting is still on.

Magnor Criol
2009-01-22, 07:49 PM
Yes, but I don't follow what it's supposed to be the birth year of.

He's thinking it's your birthdate.

So, what does happen if there's a tie, afro? Or are you intentionally dodging the question to keep us in suspense? =p

Juhn
2009-01-22, 07:52 PM
That would assume that afro began using the Quashhammer at birth.

But then he does have the power.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 07:53 PM
Ineptitude.

And yes, I've had this Quashhammer since birth. That is, in fact, my birth year.

Juhn
2009-01-22, 08:02 PM
You've got roughly between six months to a year and a half on me then, depending on where your birthday falls.

thegurullamen
2009-01-22, 09:13 PM
Ineptitude.

And yes, I've had this Quashhammer since birth. That is, in fact, my birth year.

Son of a...

That ain't right. You're supposed to be a lot older so that I and others like me won't feel bad about our overall weaker or smaller homebrew portfolios. Be older, damn it!

Limos
2009-01-22, 09:18 PM
Since Kobold seems to be a lost cause (oh woe is me) I'd like to switch my vote to Merfolk. Because Githzerai are big dumb and ugly!

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 09:20 PM
Son of a...

That ain't right. You're supposed to be a lot older so that I and others like me won't feel bad about our overall weaker or smaller homebrew portfolios. Be older, damn it!

Sorry.

If it makes you feel better, I probably have less of a life than you. :smalltongue:

thegurullamen
2009-01-22, 09:29 PM
I'd like to keep my vote as Githzerai because it's awesome.

And you wanna throw down in a no-life-off, 'akuma? I'll whoop you something fierce.

Thane of Fife
2009-01-22, 09:31 PM
Hmm, a hard-fought race between three fundamentally different races.

Oh, if only there were some race to depict horrible off-spring between other races, that we might all win! Some sort of... mutt race - mongrels, if you will. Alas that no one has ever foreseen such a need before.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 09:35 PM
And you wanna throw down in a no-life-off, 'akuma? I'll whoop you something fierce.

Doubtful. Be that as it may, I was trying for conciliatory.

And don't forget the last time we duelled, Guru.

Now then, back to the task at hand.

Juhn
2009-01-22, 09:54 PM
...Did guru just throw in a bolded option to announce that nothing has changed in his vote?

Isn't that likely to throw the quick-tally off?

Agrippa
2009-01-22, 10:00 PM
Afro! I have found you a solution!
Make the villain's race this:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn212/tinkerbelleoffilth/dragon_mermaid.jpg
Also, it has psionic powers. You just can't see them.

Where did that picture come from? And I'm voting Merfolk.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 10:10 PM
...Did guru just throw in a bolded option to announce that nothing has changed in his vote?

Isn't that likely to throw the quick-tally off?

Nah; I ignored it.

Llama231
2009-01-22, 10:18 PM
Dang it, I give up, just change my vote from Gith bach to Trog, please.:smallfrown:

LordZarth
2009-01-22, 11:08 PM
Kobold and Human are both useless now. *Sob*

-1 to Kobolds.

+1 to Gith.

Come on guys, support the Gith!

Limos
2009-01-22, 11:11 PM
No! Not the Gith!

Go with Merfolk instead!

Username
2009-01-22, 11:21 PM
It's an interesting trend that those voting for merfolk to spite Gith are being awfully immature about it. You're making Zerthimon cry, why are you making Zerthimon cry?

Limos
2009-01-22, 11:47 PM
I wanted Kobolds. Gith crushed my dreams, and Merfolk are more interesting than Gith.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 11:49 PM
Alrighty, I've closed the poll ridiculously late early and the winner is Merfolk!

Now, our fiendish fishperson needs a Class!

Draz74
2009-01-22, 11:49 PM
Githzerai. They're kinda cool, and merfolk ... just don't do it for me.

afroakuma
2009-01-22, 11:50 PM
Too late, sorry. You're welcome to vote for the class, though.

Keler
2009-01-22, 11:53 PM
My vote goes to Druid.

Draz74
2009-01-22, 11:56 PM
Too late, sorry. You're welcome to vote for the class, though.

Yes, I already noticed that I got ninja'd while the forum was lagging in posting my post.

Weird part is, I had a feeling it was going to happen that way.

Oh well. Favored Soul.

Redikalus
2009-01-22, 11:57 PM
Druid. Was trying to think of the best class to manipulate water, thus druid.

cnsvnc
2009-01-22, 11:59 PM
Druid? No, ranger.

Limos
2009-01-23, 12:03 AM
All aboard the bandwagon!

Druid

Agrippa
2009-01-23, 12:05 AM
I say Beguiler.

Zeful
2009-01-23, 12:24 AM
Sorcerer, because I like them

The Neoclassic
2009-01-23, 12:54 AM
Cleric, since I find them the most fun.

Belobog
2009-01-23, 01:07 AM
Are we talking Sahaugin merfolk or...Sea Elf merfolk?

If we are talking Sahaugin merfolk, then it has to be a Psion. Seriously, people. Psychic, four-armed fish men. Sheer terror.

If it's a Sea elf merfolk...Yeah, I guess a Druid. Needs all the help it can get.

Then again, could be a Kou Tao merfolk....which would have to be a Cleric, obviously...

Sereg
2009-01-23, 02:12 AM
I'm going with favoured soul...My god chose me to defeat you!

vegetalss4
2009-01-23, 02:24 AM
I vote for psion

and Belobog merfolk are a race, so it is most likely a merfolk merfolk

Belobog
2009-01-23, 02:37 AM
Huh. Must've missed them. Maybe because they're so...bland.

I'm gonna echo the statement to make it a Favored Soul. Wonder if we'll have to vote for what god to serve, too...

thegurullamen
2009-01-23, 03:22 AM
Songs of Sorcelation! It needs to be a Witchalok, which loosely translates to Sorcerer.

arguskos
2009-01-23, 03:57 AM
I vote for Sorcerer... though I wish it was a githzerai. :smallfrown: Ah well, it'll be cool anyways, since afro's villains always are. :smallbiggrin:

Mercenary Pen
2009-01-23, 04:42 AM
Barbarian if you please.

Sereg
2009-01-23, 06:18 AM
Ah well, it'll be cool anyways, since afro's everything always is. :smallbiggrin:

Fixed for you

Wandiya
2009-01-23, 06:41 AM
Let's go druid.:smallbiggrin::smalltongue:

Still I'm surprised that no has voted for Afro's Ninja yet.

Athaniar
2009-01-23, 06:56 AM
I'm different. Bard.

puppyavenger
2009-01-23, 07:44 AM
sorcerer what, no size vote this time?

Reverent-One
2009-01-23, 10:31 PM
sorcerer, I say.

afroakuma
2009-01-23, 10:37 PM
Still I'm surprised that no has voted for Afro's Ninja yet.

Probably because we've already had a ninja villain. And he's awesome. :smallcool:

Due to the twelve-hour kablooie, voting for Class will be extended one additional day or until there's a front-runner so prominent that I see no further point in its continuance.

Alteran
2009-01-23, 11:08 PM
I'll go with sorcerer.

Shadow_Elf
2009-01-23, 11:32 PM
Bard, please and thanks.

Thane of Fife
2009-01-23, 11:57 PM
I like Ike Sorcerer, personally.

afroakuma
2009-01-24, 12:04 AM
We like Ike Sorcerer, personally.

That we do. Ike is the man.

And Dairun Cates would have us understand that Marth is definitively not the man.

Suleman
2009-01-24, 12:31 AM
I'm voting for Favored Soul. Just because I can.

Zeta Kai
2009-01-24, 12:36 AM
I shall jump on the Sorcerer bandwagon.

Lord Mancow
2009-01-24, 12:42 AM
Lets go for soulknife.:smallbiggrin:

DracoDei
2009-01-24, 04:27 AM
Well, I would vote for a psionic varient of a TWF Ranger with a hook hand/stump-knife combo on one arm... but that would be cheesy... so I think I will go with Crusader.

UnChosenOne
2009-01-24, 04:30 AM
Sorcerer. Yes. I'm in bandwagon.

afroakuma
2009-01-24, 08:36 AM
Lets go for soulknife.:smallbiggrin:

Invalid option. Please select another.

Bandwagon's winning the war, folks. 2.5 hours until I close this poll.

Ellardin
2009-01-24, 09:11 AM
I vote Druid

Athaniar
2009-01-24, 09:52 AM
I change my vote from Bard to Favored Soul. Then it can have Divine Power, and wings!

afroakuma
2009-01-24, 09:59 AM
I am punching in the face whoever thought that was a good idea. I stab each and every class that grants wings as a feature.

Your votes are tallied. :smallsmile:

Debihuman
2009-01-24, 10:06 AM
Dang, I was gonna vote for BARD. We need an evil bard.
Debby

afroakuma
2009-01-24, 10:09 AM
Isn't that what Michael Jackson is for?

Thane of Fife
2009-01-24, 10:23 AM
Isn't that what Michael Jackson is for?

I don't think that that's the kind of Bad that the song is referring to....

afroakuma
2009-01-24, 10:51 AM
Well, I think the game's over. The winning class is Sorcerer.

So now this malicious marine magician needs a Challenge Rating!

Get to it!

The Demented One
2009-01-24, 11:05 AM
Hmm, I say CR 14.

Assassin89
2009-01-24, 11:10 AM
CR 14 I guess

Thane of Fife
2009-01-24, 11:23 AM
CR 4. Lower level than where the PCs can have easy Water-Breathing, I believe.

Shadow_Elf
2009-01-24, 11:25 AM
CR 4. Lower level than where the PCs can have easy Water-Breathing, I believe.

Good reasoning. CR 4

shaddy_24
2009-01-24, 12:23 PM
CR 8. Most players would just be gaining the ability to breath water, but not all. The players would have to take advantage of different abilities to try to overcome the challange. It's also around the time sorcerers really start being strong enough to challange groups rather than single opponants.

puppyavenger
2009-01-24, 12:29 PM
we haven't gotten a low-level villian yet, I'm going with the 4

Mercenary Pen
2009-01-24, 12:33 PM
I'll join the low-level crowd, CR4

Keler
2009-01-24, 12:33 PM
My vote goes to 4.

The Neoclassic
2009-01-24, 12:36 PM
CR 7Ten characters!

Zeta Kai
2009-01-24, 12:44 PM
Well, CR14 has been done, so I'm gonna go oddball & say CR6. Low-level villains need more love.

afroakuma
2009-01-24, 12:49 PM
At low levels, any fishy villain is scary.

Heck, any villain is scary.

Adumbration
2009-01-24, 01:01 PM
CR 4 for me. Just for the heck of it.

Draz74
2009-01-24, 01:23 PM
CR 7 sounds good to me. Maybe the people who voted 6 or 8 want to compromise and give 7 a fighting chance?

Magnor Criol
2009-01-24, 01:37 PM
I feel for the low CR idea. 4's my vote.

UnChosenOne
2009-01-24, 01:47 PM
Cr 14. I don't just like about idea about villain with cr 4.

thegurullamen
2009-01-24, 01:54 PM
4 score and 4 years ago, our 4fathers set 4th to establish this 4um, a place 4 their children to make really weird contests and vote up a weird fish villain thing. Hmm. Seems I forgot where I was headed.

dracoslaad
2009-01-24, 01:59 PM
I guess I'll vote for CR 4 as well.

Juhn
2009-01-24, 02:02 PM
So, the forum was down all day yesterday, and the class vote closed before I even woke up today? Harsh.

I'll make my CR vote later; it tends to be the vote I care least about.

Edwin
2009-01-24, 02:16 PM
I'll up for CR 6.

blackspeeker
2009-01-24, 03:05 PM
CR 6 that sounds good.

paddyfool
2009-01-24, 04:20 PM
CR6. Low enough for the wateriness to be a real issue, high enough for it not to be insuperable.

Lord Mancow
2009-01-24, 04:54 PM
I see such good logic on both sides of CR6 and CR4 but I think I'm going to go with CR6.

arguskos
2009-01-24, 05:28 PM
4 score and 4 years ago, our 4fathers set 4th to establish this 4um, a place 4 their children to make really weird contests and vote up a weird fish villain thing. Hmm. Seems I forgot where I was headed.
So, CR 24? :smalltongue:

Anyways, I want CR 4. Might as well join teh CR bandwagon. :smallbiggrin:

Magnor Criol
2009-01-24, 05:33 PM
Cr 14. I don't just like about idea about villain with cr 4.

The nice thing about lower CRs is that you can always raise it if necessary by adding class levels - whereas lowering CR to fit a higher-than-apropos villain in a campaign is noticeably tougher.

Zeful
2009-01-24, 05:59 PM
CR 4, I like villians that make the PCs sweat.

cnsvnc
2009-01-24, 06:06 PM
4 is good. So is 6. I'll be happy with either so I'm voting 5.

Llama231
2009-01-24, 07:58 PM
19!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!ONE!!!!!!!
When was class voting? I thought that the board was down?

Debihuman
2009-01-24, 10:18 PM
I vote for CR 6.

Debby

Limos
2009-01-24, 10:19 PM
CR 6

Make it so.

DracoDei
2009-01-24, 10:29 PM
4 seems good, and who says this villian won't be for an underwater based campaign where the PCs are all aquatic humanoids?

afroakuma
2009-01-24, 10:33 PM
Oh, I do pity them if that's the case.:smallamused:

puppyavenger
2009-01-24, 11:15 PM
Oh, I do pity them if that's the case.:smallamused:

so is the vote extended for today? or does it end now? did I miss a post answering that exact question?

afroakuma
2009-01-25, 12:08 AM
Alright, I've tallied it up and the winning CR is 4!

Now, this sinister submarine sorcerer needs an Alignment!

Alteran
2009-01-25, 12:13 AM
Neutral Evil, why not?

Thane of Fife
2009-01-25, 12:28 AM
I prefer Lawful Evil, myself.

thegurullamen
2009-01-25, 12:28 AM
Neural Evil as well.

Ekeralos
2009-01-25, 12:29 AM
Chaotic Evil.

xanaphia
2009-01-25, 12:48 AM
Chaotic Evil.

Cause Lawful evil is boring.

Keler
2009-01-25, 12:59 AM
Lawful Good for the heck of it.

puppyavenger
2009-01-25, 01:12 AM
lawful evil

Zeta Kai
2009-01-25, 01:27 AM
Neutral Evil

Gorgondantess
2009-01-25, 01:51 AM
Lawful Evil. Those are always the fun ones.

Draz74
2009-01-25, 02:12 AM
Neutral Evil.

Magnor Criol
2009-01-25, 02:24 AM
Neutral Evil.


Neural Evil as well.

Clearly, guru wants this villain to be ahead of the pack...*rimshot*
(Sorry guru, too good too pass up)

king.com
2009-01-25, 02:39 AM
Chaotic Evil, chaos cant be stopped....

UnChosenOne
2009-01-25, 03:12 AM
Lawfull Evil.