Lycar

2009-06-01, 07:37 AM

Since the 'How would you fix Fighters et. al.?' thread degenerated into another 'Wizards win, everything else suxx' thread, I started this one.

Judging from the discussions on these boards, all mages always get all spells ever conceived shoved up their @sses.

This begs the question: How do you guys handle WBL and spells?

Now please correct me if I am wrong here, but besides his initial set of spells, a Wizard is, by RAW, entitled to learn 2 more spells every time he levels up, correct?

So that would work out to, say, 11 non-cantrip spells for a 5th level Wizard.

2 of which can be 3rd level.

Everything else has to come from elsewhere.

Therefore: If said Wizard would, say, happen to have 5 3rd level spells listed in his spellbook, 3 of those would effectivly be 'extra gear'.

Now would this not cut into his WBL? 3 scrolls to learn those 3 extra spell at 375 gp each, plus the 900 gp of materials it takes to scribe 9 pages of spells into your spellbook? Just a bit more then 2000 gp. Note that most Wizards who get discusses on these boards have about half the SC copied into their spellbooks.

Just for the heck of it, let us assume a 5th level Wizard, freshly created for a PbP game. He has all the cantrips for free (which by now ough to require a spellbook at by themselves, but meh...) plus 12 lv. 1 spells (5 of which are free), 10 lv 2 spells (4 of which are free) and 6 3rd level spells (2 of which are free).

That would be

7 x 25 gp (175), + 7 x 150 gp (1050), + 4 x 375 gp (1500) + 3300 gp for the scrolls and materials it requires to scribe 33 pages of spellbook.

That is a total of 5.500 gp out of 9.000 a freshly created 5th level character gets to toy around with.

In other words: Only 3.500 left to buy such nifty things as, say Anklets of Translocation. Or wands of whatever for that matter. Or the absolute must-have for all STR 8 characters: Heward's Handy Haversack.

Doesn't leave much gold to buy shoes, now does it... :smallamused:

So, how do YOU handle this anyway?

Lycar

Judging from the discussions on these boards, all mages always get all spells ever conceived shoved up their @sses.

This begs the question: How do you guys handle WBL and spells?

Now please correct me if I am wrong here, but besides his initial set of spells, a Wizard is, by RAW, entitled to learn 2 more spells every time he levels up, correct?

So that would work out to, say, 11 non-cantrip spells for a 5th level Wizard.

2 of which can be 3rd level.

Everything else has to come from elsewhere.

Therefore: If said Wizard would, say, happen to have 5 3rd level spells listed in his spellbook, 3 of those would effectivly be 'extra gear'.

Now would this not cut into his WBL? 3 scrolls to learn those 3 extra spell at 375 gp each, plus the 900 gp of materials it takes to scribe 9 pages of spells into your spellbook? Just a bit more then 2000 gp. Note that most Wizards who get discusses on these boards have about half the SC copied into their spellbooks.

Just for the heck of it, let us assume a 5th level Wizard, freshly created for a PbP game. He has all the cantrips for free (which by now ough to require a spellbook at by themselves, but meh...) plus 12 lv. 1 spells (5 of which are free), 10 lv 2 spells (4 of which are free) and 6 3rd level spells (2 of which are free).

That would be

7 x 25 gp (175), + 7 x 150 gp (1050), + 4 x 375 gp (1500) + 3300 gp for the scrolls and materials it requires to scribe 33 pages of spellbook.

That is a total of 5.500 gp out of 9.000 a freshly created 5th level character gets to toy around with.

In other words: Only 3.500 left to buy such nifty things as, say Anklets of Translocation. Or wands of whatever for that matter. Or the absolute must-have for all STR 8 characters: Heward's Handy Haversack.

Doesn't leave much gold to buy shoes, now does it... :smallamused:

So, how do YOU handle this anyway?

Lycar