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Egiam
2009-06-27, 11:50 PM
I couldn't find the previous thread, so here it is.

http://www.norcalblogs.com/guy/ak47.jpg

warty goblin
2009-06-28, 12:05 AM
Naw, for orc-killing in enclosed spaces, you really want a USAS-12 with the 20 round drum magazine, and loaded with either 00 buck, or for your more heavily armored orcs, tungsten cored slug.

Texas_Ben
2009-06-28, 12:12 AM
Naw, for orc-killing in enclosed spaces, you really want a USAS-12 with the 20 round drum magazine, and loaded with either 00 buck, or for your more heavily armored orcs, tungsten cored slug.
No. Flamethrower.

Verruckt
2009-06-28, 12:41 AM
No. Flamethrower.

nah, I gotta side with the goblin on this one, the only thing meaner than a cornered orc is a cornered orc who is also on fire. Although I'd trade out the USAS with a AA-12 and the 00 buck with frag-12 rounds, but that's just me.

Now, out at medium ranges I'd recommend something like an M-14 EBR, but at optimum engagement range, like say across a couple miles of Rohan plains, grab yourself a DSR N1 in .50BMG and chamber some Raufoss Mk 211. If that Uruk-Hai needs to die, fire the round that is armor-piercing, explosive and on fire, and accept no substitutes.

bloodlover
2009-06-28, 01:37 AM
Here's a similar one:

http://ui06.gamespot.com/1829/multiclassing_2.jpg

Oslecamo
2009-06-28, 06:26 AM
Naw, for orc-killing in enclosed spaces, you really want a USAS-12 with the 20 round drum magazine, and loaded with either 00 buck, or for your more heavily armored orcs, tungsten cored slug.

Bah, that weapon will jam in record time, and you have to kill at least a hundred of orcs. AK 47 has a much lower jamming possibility, even with all the guts and blood flying around, so it's the right choice for ork mass slaughter.

Kris Strife
2009-06-28, 06:45 AM
Metal storm at maximum rpm. :p

Bouregard
2009-06-28, 07:05 AM
No. Flamethrower.

Always flamethrower. I never know why people bring small arms if there are heavy weapons or artillery available.

Oslecamo
2009-06-28, 07:29 AM
Always flamethrower. I never know why people bring small arms if there are heavy weapons or artillery available.

Because it's really really hard to run and jump with the bloody fuel tanck strapped to your back. Sure those goblins are toast, but how do you expect to jump trough the chasm as the cavern colapses around you?

Eldan
2009-06-28, 09:14 AM
Also, a flamethrower will do jack against a balrog. I recommend timed explosives to destroy the bridge.

ImmortalAer
2009-06-28, 09:20 AM
nah, I gotta side with the goblin on this one, the only thing meaner than a cornered orc is a cornered orc who is also on fire. Although I'd trade out the USAS with a AA-12 and the 00 buck with frag-12 rounds, but that's just me.

Now, out at medium ranges I'd recommend something like an M-14 EBR, but at optimum engagement range, like say across a couple miles of Rohan plains, grab yourself a DSR N1 in .50BMG and chamber some Raufoss Mk 211. If that Uruk-Hai needs to die, fire the round that is armor-piercing, explosive and on fire, and accept no substitutes.

Me personally? I have a bit of a antique/historical taste, but I figure this thing is still going to be the best at almost any range. (Except really, really close.)

http://xbradtc.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/browning1919.jpg

Yeah. I went there.

rankrath
2009-06-28, 10:02 AM
Why is it people are so concerned with killing everything in the room? Why settle for that?

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3558/800pxgau8meetsvwtype1.jpg

Just kill everything in the building.

Oslecamo
2009-06-28, 10:17 AM
You have any idea the ****** worck it takes to clean that?

Plus, you can't dual wield it.

rankrath
2009-06-28, 10:31 AM
You have any idea the ****** worck it takes to clean that?

Plus, you can't dual wield it.

considering it fires 390 rounds per round, dual wielding it is not a concern.

averagejoe
2009-06-28, 10:41 AM
Naw, for orc-killing in enclosed spaces, you really want a USAS-12 with the 20 round drum magazine, and loaded with either 00 buck, or for your more heavily armored orcs, tungsten cored slug.


No. Flamethrower.

Any reason you can't have both and just ditch the flamethrower when it becomes to cumbersome/a balrog is come. Or dual wield them. Or figure out some way to COMBINE the two.


Why is it people are so concerned with killing everything in the room? Why settle for that?

Just kill everything in the building.

Mmmmm.... It's niiiiice, I guess. I mean, I don't want you to think I don't like it or anything. It's just... it needs more daka. Much more.

rankrath
2009-06-28, 10:49 AM
Mmmmm.... It's niiiiice, I guess. I mean, I don't want you to think I don't like it or anything. It's just... it needs more daka. Much more.

more dakka can be had. take six gau-8's, mount them as a Gatling gun. Give each gau-8 a rocket propelled chainsaw launcher bayonet.

Oslecamo
2009-06-28, 10:58 AM
more dakka can be had. take six gau-8's, mount them as a Gatling gun. Give each gau-8 a rocket propelled chainsaw launcher bayonet.

Now we're talking!:smallbiggrin:

Texas_Ben
2009-06-28, 11:45 AM
more dakka can be had. take six gau-8's, mount them as a Gatling gun. Give each gau-8 a rocket propelled chainsaw launcher bayonet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/DavyCrockettBomb.jpg/750px-DavyCrockettBomb.jpg

I think this is all I really need to say. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)) I mean sure as it is you'll only get the one shot but it was made back in the 50's, Im sure with a little work they could make it into a better gatling gun then that pea shooter.

rankrath
2009-06-28, 11:56 AM
I think this is all I really need to say. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)) I mean sure as it is you'll only get the one shot but it was made back in the 50's, Im sure with a little work they could make it into a better gatling gun then that pea shooter.

sure, it's more powerful, but it lacks style. It just doesn't seem as threatening as a gun that's two times the size of car.

Kyouhen
2009-06-28, 12:01 PM
considering it fires 390 rounds per round, dual wielding it is not a concern.

Dual wielding is ALWAYS a concern.

Also I vote against the timed explosives against the Balrog. Not enough instant stopping power. If you mess up the timing that thing's going to be across the bridge and then you've got problems.

Eldan
2009-06-28, 12:29 PM
I was thinking about just blowing up the bridge before it crossed it. I can't remember if the Balrog could fly in the movie, though.

Icewalker
2009-06-28, 12:49 PM
No no no, if you want more dakka, you want something that has already been mentioned in this thread: Metal Storm.

Metal Storm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX6YvWxtrxw), ie, 100,000 rounds per round (million rounds a minute out of one of their weapons). They have a pistol which gets three shots off before recoil reaches your hand.

...I think we're a little off topic. But I don't have a hilarious poster myself to put up, so...

Oslecamo
2009-06-28, 12:57 PM
Metal Storm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX6YvWxtrxw), ie, 100,000 rounds per round (million rounds a minute out of one of their weapons). They have a pistol which gets three shots off before recoil reaches your hand.


For god's sake, what enemy are you fighting that you need one million rounds per minute? And people are geting paid to build that? :smalleek:

Kyouhen
2009-06-28, 01:00 PM
I was thinking about just blowing up the bridge before it crossed it. I can't remember if the Balrog could fly in the movie, though.

I'm guessing it couldn't, because the alternative implies that a wizard was able to pin the thing and prevent it from doing so as it fell. :smalltongue:

Black_Pants_Guy
2009-06-28, 01:03 PM
Someone needs to make a Metal Storm for Nuclear Warheads.:smalltongue:

Ravens_cry
2009-06-28, 02:16 PM
sure, it's more powerful, but it lacks style. It just doesn't seem as threatening as a gun that's two times the size of car.
Threatening is all well and good. But it doesn't matter if you feel threatened or not when it melts your face off.

Icewalker
2009-06-28, 02:58 PM
Yeah, I dunno, seems to me that a rocket launcher nuke is a bit more intimidating than a gigantic gun.

Anyways...

http://lh6.google.com/Infinity306/RrEKacVP3DI/AAAAAAAAAOY/pITaTldbCzc/s800/Firepower.jpg

Emperor Ing
2009-06-28, 03:01 PM
Hahah, you people and your tiny tiny toys! I laugh at you!
http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/imagesgiant-20as-20ssaw-20thing-small.jpg

rankrath
2009-06-28, 03:03 PM
Yeah, I dunno, seems to me that a rocket launcher nuke is a bit more intimidating than a gigantic gun.


Right, but IIRC the Davy Crockett was phased out of service due to poor accuracy and the slight problem that the fallout had a nasty habit of drifting back over the users.

Oslecamo
2009-06-28, 03:15 PM
Hahah, you people and your tiny tiny toys! I laugh at you!
http://bitsandpieces.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/imagesgiant-20as-20ssaw-20thing-small.jpg

Really, WTF is that? A WH40K gargantz prototype?

Ravens_cry
2009-06-28, 03:17 PM
Really, WTF is that? A WH40K gargantz prototype?
That my friend, is this (http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Workshop/Trencher.htm).

KnightDisciple
2009-06-28, 03:18 PM
Really, WTF is that? A WH40K gargantz prototype?

Looks like a bucket-wheel excavator. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket-wheel_excavator)

Edit: Blast, ninja'ed!

Berserk Monk
2009-06-28, 04:34 PM
Here's a similar one:

http://ui06.gamespot.com/1829/multiclassing_2.jpg

Yeah, this is hilarious. I lol every time I see it.

warty goblin
2009-06-28, 05:32 PM
No. Flamethrower.
In a room? Only if you don't like breathing. Remember, one of the reasons that flamethrowers were so useful against bunkers is that you could burn all the air out of them, even if the occupants weren't set on fire themselves.



Bah, that weapon will jam in record time, and you have to kill at least a hundred of orcs. AK 47 has a much lower jamming possibility, even with all the guts and blood flying around, so it's the right choice for ork mass slaughter.

A well maintained weapon has minimal chance of jamming. The reason that the Kalishnakov is considered so hard to jam is that it doens't take very much maintainence to keep it from doing so. It pays for this by being horribly inaccurate.

It's also a poor choice against orcs in an enclosed space. A single 5.45mm round simply isn't likely to put some stinking Mordor-spawn down with anything but severe trauma to the central nervous system, which is a bitch of a target. This requires multiple rounds per target, which thanks to the approximate 600 rounds per minute cyclic fire rate, you can manage. The problem is that you've only got a 30 round magazine, so you're looking, at best, at 10-15 orcs knocked down before you have to reload.

With a selective fire shotgun firing buck or heavy gauge slugs however, your chances of incapacitating or killing a target per shot are much, much better. It isn't overstating things to say that a 12 gauge can blow off limbs due to the disturbingly good terminal ballistics of soft lead slugs- they deform and tumble on impact, doing lots and lots of damage. I'm unsure of the effects of dark ages or medieval level body armor on a slug, but my guess is that at CQB ranges, it would be fairly minimal. Chainmail would, if anything, probably result in worse wounds than an unarmored target would suffer, since the passing of the round would fragment and drive piece of the links into the target.

Oslecamo
2009-06-28, 06:03 PM
It pays for this by being horribly inaccurate.
Myth. Altough it isn't the more acurate weapon in the world, it still has good accuraccy, otherwise it wouldn't have been employed by several armies along the world by decades. If you're good enough with it, you can even use it for sniping at considerable distances.

Plus good luck keeping your gun clean as you make your way trough swamps and dust covered dungeons in your quest do defeat the dark lord while suffering constant ambushes:smalltongue:



It's also a poor choice against orcs in an enclosed space. A single 5.45mm round simply isn't likely to put some stinking Mordor-spawn down with anything but severe trauma to the central nervous system, which is a bitch of a target. This requires multiple rounds per target, which thanks to the approximate 600 rounds per minute cyclic fire rate, you can manage. The problem is that you've only got a 30 round magazine, so you're looking, at best, at 10-15 orcs knocked down before you have to reload.

With a selective fire shotgun firing buck or heavy gauge slugs however, your chances of incapacitating or killing a target per shot are much, much better. It isn't overstating things to say that a 12 gauge can blow off limbs due to the disturbingly good terminal ballistics of soft lead slugs- they deform and tumble on impact, doing lots and lots of damage. I'm unsure of the effects of dark ages or medieval level body armor on a slug, but my guess is that at CQB ranges, it would be fairly minimal. Chainmail would, if anything, probably result in worse wounds than an unarmored target would suffer, since the passing of the round would fragment and drive piece of the links into the target.

You're forgeting one very important detail: multiple body penetration. Altough the 5.45 bullet indeed does smaller holes, it makes several holes in several targets at a time if they're lined up, wich can be simply devastating as the orcs piles themselves up trying to enter the hypotethical room. So each shot can actually hurt several targets

On the other hand, your average orc doesn't really give a damn if you cut off a part of their body other than the head, so with one weapon or another you still have to hit the central nerval system.

Jack Squat
2009-06-28, 06:42 PM
Myth. Altough it isn't the more acurate weapon in the world, it still has good accuraccy, otherwise it wouldn't have been employed by several armies along the world by decades. If you're good enough with it, you can even use it for sniping at considerable distances.

An average AK has rougly 4 MOA (minute of angle) accuracy. Meaning 4" @ 100 yards, 8" @ 200 yards, etc. Some can get down to 2 MOA, but it's not terribly common. On top of this, the 7.62 x 39mm round has a 400 meter effective range. This is perfectly suitable for normal combat, but it's not a "sniping" platform in any sense of the word. If going for a Dragonov/SVD/PSL, which many people consider "snipers", it's really marksman rifle. Snipers tend to use bolt actions for a reason (they're generally more accurate, and have a somewhat greater range).


Plus good luck keeping your gun clean as you make your way trough swamps and dust covered dungeons in your quest do defeat the dark lord while suffering constant ambushes:smalltongue:

So long as carried right (which any character trained to use it would), there's no reason that any weapon field stripped and cleaned on a regular basis would be any more susceptible to failure than another design.




You're forgeting one very important detail: multiple body penetration. Altough the 5.45 bullet indeed does smaller holes, it makes several holes in several targets at a time if they're lined up, wich can be simply devastating as the orcs piles themselves up trying to enter the hypotethical room. So each shot can actually hurt several targets

5.45x39mm rounds tend to go off course after about 2 1/2" of flesh and tumble after about 9". Counting on a Raider's of the Lost Ark type kill is overshooting it some...but then again, this is fiction.

Ravens_cry
2009-06-28, 07:10 PM
You people are going about it all the wrong way.
Just remember good ol' fashioned, Rule 36.
[http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/299/a10warthog.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/a10warthog.jpg/)
Remember that massive piece of Dakka that dwarfs the VW? That is what this brute fires.

warty goblin
2009-06-28, 07:37 PM
Myth. Altough it isn't the more acurate weapon in the world, it still has good accuraccy, otherwise it wouldn't have been employed by several armies along the world by decades. If you're good enough with it, you can even use it for sniping at considerable distances.

Plus good luck keeping your gun clean as you make your way trough swamps and dust covered dungeons in your quest do defeat the dark lord while suffering constant ambushes:smalltongue:

It's employed by so many armies because it costs pretty much nothing to manufacture. One of the reasons for this is because its internal parts aren't particularly finely machined, which also decreases accuracy. This high tolerance allows the weapon to function even when improperly maintained, which is a serious advantage for an army short on money for training but long on soldiers.




You're forgeting one very important detail: multiple body penetration. Altough the 5.45 bullet indeed does smaller holes, it makes several holes in several targets at a time if they're lined up, wich can be simply devastating as the orcs piles themselves up trying to enter the hypotethical room. So each shot can actually hurt several targets

On the other hand, your average orc doesn't really give a damn if you cut off a part of their body other than the head, so with one weapon or another you still have to hit the central nerval system.

I find this fascinating. It's an important detail that there is an outside chance of scoring a multiple penetration with a round not terribly likely to kill the target before it axes me, but having a weapon capable of turning my target into mincemeat isn't relevant. Let's dig a bit deeper. If a bullet isn't capable of droping a target in one shot, hitting multiple targets doesn't really help me very much, it means the time it takes me to put down the orc right in my face remains the same. With a shotgun, I pull the trigger and the odds are very, very good that I've just introduced the ugly right in front of me to a whole new world of pain with a solid chance of death. I can then immediately shift my weapon on to the next target, and with a selective fire weapon I don't have to worry about manually working the action either. All in all with a 20 round drum, I'm much more likely to get more kills per magazine than with an 30 round AK box magazine.

I should also point out a mistake of my own. The original AK-47, or the more modern (and common) AKM both use 7.62x39mm ammunition. This obviously makes a somewhat larger hole than the 5.45mm round, but there's a reason the Red Army moved to that caliber- it's got better penetration, is more likely to tumble, and is generally more likely to kill and/or incapacite the target.

Foeofthelance
2009-06-28, 08:39 PM
Oh, please. I see your giant trenching tool and raise you some real firepower.

(Spoilered for space)


http://somacow.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/470px-bb61_uss_iowa_bb61_broadside_usn.jpg

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/4693/US-Navy-Battleship-2.jpg



I admit it was the closest thing I could come to a SheVa gun...

Verruckt
2009-06-28, 09:35 PM
Oh, please. I see your giant trenching tool and raise you some real firepower.

(Spoilered for space)


http://somacow.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/470px-bb61_uss_iowa_bb61_broadside_usn.jpg

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/4693/US-Navy-Battleship-2.jpg



I admit it was the closest thing I could come to a SheVa gun...

When it absolutely, positively needs to be splattered across a crater the size of an olympic swimming pool, Iowa class. Zogging bootiful.

On the topic of enough dakka, if one must kill orcs, you may need to call in orks:
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/Jerisalem/1229550297895.jpg

The_JJ
2009-06-28, 11:50 PM
You people are going about it all the wrong way.
Just remember good ol' fashioned, Rule 36.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/299/a10warthog.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/a10warthog.jpg/)
Remember that massive piece of Dakka that dwarfs the VW? That is what this brute fires.

Aha, see, that's a misquote. (sp?)

The real quote is close air support. More awesome.

Ravens_cry
2009-06-29, 12:10 AM
Aha, see, that's a misquote. (sp?)

The real quote is close air support. More awesome.
It's fixed.

Rutskarn
2009-06-29, 01:05 AM
Close Air Support: For when you absolutely, positively have to blow up every mother-caresser on the field, no exceptions.

Verruckt
2009-06-29, 01:15 AM
I think this is the second time this month I've posted this here, but it keeps coming up.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/Jerisalem/1216282121649.jpg

Rutskarn
2009-06-29, 01:23 AM
I gotta admit, that's pretty awesome. And true.

Zaphrasz
2009-06-29, 10:28 AM
I always figure that the fastest way to clear a room full of orcs is an epic level Barbarian with Great Cleave.