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EmeraldPhoenix
2009-06-28, 08:26 PM
FAQ:

Q: Who are you?
A: Belkar=awsome.:smallbiggrin:

Q: What drawing program do you use?
A: Inkscape.

Q: Are you stalking the_Q?
A: No, I just love his comics. :smallredface:

Q: What is your MitD?
A: More of a pitd, really, a Person in the Dark. For plot purposes, I can't tell you what he looks like, but I CAN tell you he's an elf.:smallwink:

Q: Why does this comic suck?
A: If you think it sucks, stop reading it.:smallsigh:

Q: What's the difference between the different evil characters?
A: Well, obviously, you'll notice that the Pitd is a bit smarter than the rest, and obsessed with a blue haired elf for some reasons.
Red: Sam has no arms, and is the only boy in the group (unless the pitd is a boy, which I cannot vouch for nor deny at this point, though I know the answer.) He is the most idiotic, which is saying something. He's a bard, and uses psychic powers to play his electric guitar.

Orange: Sarah is a blunt, unlikable Elven Cleric, who goes beyond evil into the realms of intensly ANNOYING. She hates Sandy for reasons known only to herself.

Yellow: Sandy is the least likable person on the team by a large margin, which is saying something. She is a human wizard, and severly hated by an insanely large number of people, on and off her team, dead and alive, and regardless of some of them being fictional.

Green: We haven't met Sal yet, but she can be seen in the banner. She is a human archer, and a pretty darn good one at that. The most likable person on team evil and the neutrals' biggest threat, we'll be seeing her in the future.

Blue: Although she hasn't appeared in a strip yet since she joined team evil, she is in one of the old strips...if you look closely.:smallwink: Look in the banner for what to look for.


The Comic

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Comic #009: Please don't read this, god only knows I didn't want to write it.
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Comic #010: The comic everyone's so worked up about.

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Comic #011: As Elan would say: "Dun Dun Duuuuuuun!"

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Comic #012: And here we see Samantha smile for the first time.

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Comic #013: It's certainly unlucky for the belhop.
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Comic #014: Deep Questions
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Comic #015: Let's just hope he doesn't try to hold her hand...
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Comic #016: A very appropriate song choice
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Comic #17: Just to remind you that somebody is telling the story
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The Banners
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The Characters

Team Evil

The Person in the Dark (Pitd)

Not much is known about the Pitd. It's gender and alignment are mysteries, although Sarah has nicknamed it 'Devin' for easier conversations. It is smart, and obsessed with Em for reasons currently unknown. More will come to light about this creature later, but for now I'll just tell you this: it's an elf.
Sam: Human Bard

Although early misfortunes in life (like say, not being able to outrun an angry mob after you kill all the babies in your local daycare, and not being able to outrun a different angry mob when you kill all the children in your local orphanage) have left him without arms or (*AHEM*), he still manages to play music. He is on team evil, helping the pitd obtain a ring of immense power. He is the least intelligent of the group.

Sarah: Elven Cleric

Not content with being evil, Sarah is also the epitome of everything rude, obnoxious, and downright godsd*** ANNOYING. She is hated by everyone in her team, not in her team, and even some people who have never actually met her, but Team Evil puts up with her anyway. She hates Sandy for reasons known only to herself.

Sandy: Human Wizard

Smug and overconfident, Sandy is utterly unlikable. A lot of people would very dearly like to knock her down a peg, including Sarah, her parents, several world leaders, the ghost of Elbert Ainstein, her little brother, and, interestingly enough, Manzel. Keep in mind that they each respectively have very good reasons to hate her.

Sal: Human Archer

The most likeable person in team evil (which isn't saying much) is Sal. She is an efficient killing machine when given a bow and some arrows, and one of the biggest threats to the Neutrals' goal. Sam likes her, mostly because she's the only one who desn't know why he doesn't have any arms.

Sandy: Ice-Elven Sorceress

She doesn't really belong in team evil, being chaotic neutral, but she owed Pitd a favor, and didn't know about (and so didn't get the chance to join) team neutral. She likes (as in LIKES likes) Manzel. Everyone pretty much ignores her until she's needed, but she can be useful. When she tries. Very hard.

The Neutrals

Samantha: 1/2 Kobald 1/2 Halfling Wizard

Samantha was born to a Kobald mother and a Halfling father. She is the leader, and a very good one at that; brilliant, charismatic, and straightforward. She can be touchy about her creature type, and when ticked off, can be bitingly harsh. She is determinatly true neutral.
Lauren: Human Cleric

Lauren is dertermined and confident (read: cocky) but can also seem desperate at times. She is the "Durkon" of the neutrals, a bland and uninteresting person. She was born to a lawful good father and a chaotic evil mother, and hated being forced to choose.She is Chaotic Neutral.
Em: Elven Bard

Em can't remember her past up until a year ago, when she woke up in an empty tavern in a villiage called Klaad. She joined the group hoping to find clues. She is moderatly intelligent, with occational flashes of brilliance. She has recurring nightmares about her old life every once in a while, but they've been getting much worse and more frequent since she joined the neutrals. She is very loyal towards Samantha. She is True Neutral.
Denvar: Rouge Dwarf

Rasied by humans, Denvar is a very unique dwarf. He doesn't have an accent, and has managed to get himself banned from almost every other group you can think of. Snappy, cheeky, and rude, you may be suprised to learn that he's Lawful Good.
Manzel: Whight Fighter

Manzel is the son of two whights, and just assumes that he is a whight as well. He acts more human, however, and is Lawful Neutral instead of the usual evil alignment. He mostly just stays in the back, but he is an excellent warrior. He is often described as "the quiet type". He is pessimistic, but very smart. He owes Samantha his life.




Guest comic by MethosHazara

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Salty
2009-06-29, 11:52 PM
It isn't easy to give feedback about your comic yet, but from what I've heard, Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/) works well, and it's free. :smallsmile:

Keveak
2009-06-30, 02:29 AM
It isn't easy to give feedback about your comic yet, but from what I've heard, Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/) works well, and it's free. :smallsmile:

It certainly is good, my avatar was made in it.

Fay Graydon
2009-06-30, 05:38 AM
As was mine...
And MS paint is seriously Inferior unless your like.... Jesus or something...

onasuma
2009-06-30, 08:14 AM
As was mine...
And MS paint is seriously Inferior unless your like.... Jesus or something...

Inferior is the wrong word. Harder to use is likely, but great art can come from paint, often greater than what can be done with inkscape. The skill cap with paint is just far higher, thats all.

T-O-E
2009-06-30, 09:32 AM
It's also good for sprite work.

Mad Mask
2009-06-30, 09:39 AM
Inferior is the wrong word. Harder to use is likely, but great art can come from paint, often greater than what can be done with inkscape. The skill cap with paint is just far higher, thats all.

The thing here is that MS Paint is a raster program, while Inkscape is a vector one. Without context, neither is better or worse than the other.

But in the domain of stick figure comics, Inkscape is obviously the better one, since you don't have to resize your strip, you can easily have movable templates, you can make layers, etc.

However, if you compare MS Paint to another raster art program, it's almost always inferior. Compare the options in Paint to those in Photoshop, for example.

Nameless
2009-06-30, 09:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2sPl_Z7ZU

That is all.

Mad Mask
2009-06-30, 10:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2sPl_Z7ZU

That is all.

This is from the same guy who painted Elvis on velvet with cheetos.

Are you saying that painting with cheetos is better than traditional painting ? :smalltongue:

onasuma
2009-06-30, 11:21 AM
This is from the same guy who painted Elvis on velvet with cheetos.

Are you saying that painting with cheetos is better than traditional painting ? :smalltongue:

Em.... Is it possible to argue that painting with cheetos isnt the best way to paint, ever?

Keveak
2009-06-30, 01:56 PM
Em.... Is it possible to argue that painting with cheetos isnt the best way to paint, ever?

It is for that guy :smalltongue´:

Hacktor
2009-06-30, 03:28 PM
Please get Inkscape ,, it's free... in the name of all scared retinas everywhere don't use MSpaint...

There are extensive tutorials in inkscape's page [ even make a character for oots.]

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-06-30, 07:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2sPl_Z7ZU

That is all.

Oh, Jesus. I don't think I can compete with that guy.

Ok, listen. I'll switch if I ever have the time, but I already have and know how to use MS Paint, so I think I'll stick with that for the time being.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-06-30, 08:50 PM
....aaaaand I've got them uploaded!

Ok, mostly. But I'll work it out later. Meanwhile, enjoy my first 9 comics!

Salty
2009-06-30, 10:07 PM
Not too bad so far, I'll definitely be checking in sometime in the future. The art could use some work, though. It's fine by Paint standards, not counting the Mona Lisa, but I stand by my opinion that Inkscape will make the comic look a lot nicer. And you should really consider linking to the comics instead of showing them on this page. Once you get to a high number of comics, it takes a long time to load the page, which really just makes it harder for people to get into your comic. But good luck, and I hope to see your work continue! :smallsmile:

Hacktor
2009-07-01, 02:48 AM
:smallfrown: My eyes burn ... dialogue is funny but pleaseeeee ... try inkscape... you'll learn how to use it in 2 hours max... it's for the best.

onasuma
2009-07-01, 03:33 AM
Not to be rude, but I do advise getting inkscape as well. It is free and can greatly improve the look of your work when you get used to it. However, ignore Hacktor, your art is pretty good for a first timer, better than my first few. If you want to use paint, you're gonna need some practise, if not try inkscape or if neither, just carry on as you are. It isnt that bad.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-01, 09:49 AM
Q: Why does this comic suck?
A: If you think it sucks, stop reading it.


Learning a new drawing program will take time. Let me off the hook for now, please. If I find the time to learn how to download and use Inkscape, I will, but as it is I'm a bit busy. Maybe in the future. Sorry.


Not to be rude, but I do advise getting inkscape as well. It is free and can greatly improve the look of your work when you get used to it. However, ignore Hacktor, your art is pretty good for a first timer, better than my first few. If you want to use paint, you're gonna need some practise, if not try inkscape or if neither, just carry on as you are. It isnt that bad.

Thanks!

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-01, 11:16 AM
I've got all my comics uploaded! Yay!

Comments?
Questions?
Critiques?

averagejoe
2009-07-01, 11:39 AM
Bah, the neutrals. I hate these filthy neutrals! With enemies you know where they stand but with neutrals? Who knows! It sickens me.

What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality? Once the neutral war machine lies in ruins, I will be a hero again.

Just had to get that out of my system. :smalltongue:

It is an interesting idea. However, it sometimes gets difficult to tell people apart, especially the women. You did a good job of differentiating your main characters, but I got kinda confused when I started seeing the villains.

Fay Graydon
2009-07-01, 11:45 AM
I think....
That you should seriously consider AGAINST using the obvious rip off characters from Oots...
Unless you ask The Giant himself whether he minds...
It's one thing to make references and jokes... but another to use rip off characters...
Other than that I love the Idea of the comic! :smallbiggrin:
My favorite character is the Halfling in the Neutrals! :smallbiggrin:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-01, 01:07 PM
That you should seriously consider AGAINST using the obvious rip off characters from Oots...

I don't think there is anything wrong with using obvious rip-offs. Otherwise, wouldn't Spaceballs be sued by George Lucas?

Anyway, a great comic so far. Thumbs up!

The only thing I would worry about is that the goblin in comic 12 seems verrrrry similar to a goblin from one from Order of the Stick. I'm pretty sure that reusing the Giant's artwork is against the rules. If it is reused, you may want to redraw that comic with your own art for the goblin.

Keris
2009-07-01, 01:47 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with using obvious rip-offs. Otherwise, wouldn't Spaceballs be sued by George Lucas?

Parodies are protected covered in the US under Fair Use, so Mel Brooks is safe. A cameo appearance (defined as a single strip appearance done for humour or contrast) is considered parody and is acceptable, however the names and likenesses of the OotS characters are copyrighted, and cannot be used otherwise without specific permission.

Legal issues aside, reusing characters generally indicates a lack of creativity on the part of the comic creator, and should be avoided in any case.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-01, 01:53 PM
Parodies are protected covered in the US under Fair Use, so Mel Brooks is safe. A cameo appearance (defined as a single strip appearance done for humour or contrast) is considered parody and is acceptable, however the names and likenesses of the OotS characters are copyrighted, and cannot be used otherwise without specific permission.

Legal issues aside, reusing characters generally indicates a lack of creativity on the part of the comic creator, and should be avoided in any case.

They could be just parodies, though. These OOTS thinly-disguised rip-offs don't have exactly the same names. And it doesn't seem like they are exactly the main focus of the comic, either. And, although the opposite seems more likely from what we've seen of them, they could have completely unique personalities while still being a parady of the original OOTS. Only time will tell, I guess. I highly doubt there could be anything legal about it yet, though.

Keris
2009-07-01, 02:46 PM
They could be just parodies, though.
Sure. They could be, at which point it would be fine. I never said that these characters would definitely be ground for legal action, but they don't seem either original characters or deliberate parodies so far. Possibly because it's difficult to parody a parody.

These OOTS thinly-disguised rip-offs don't have exactly the same names.
They have almost exactly the same names, almost exactly the same appearances, and almost exactly the same roles. From what we've seen of the their personalities, it seems that Belker and Vaarsuvius have undergone a simple switch.

And it doesn't seem like they are exactly the main focus of the comic, either.
In Comic #8, Sam says "why are you hiding in the shadows? You don't want to get sued by Rich Burle-". This is a parodying cameo, it only appears for one comic and the reference hasn't been mentioned again. As Rich hasn't trademarked his own name (as far as I'm aware), it's fine.
However, in Comic #10 "The Good Guys" are introduced. The set up implies that they will be recurring characters, as they are the opponents/competitors to what appear to be the principle villains. 'Velkar' then emphasises how similar his personality is to Belkar's in that comic, with his cry of "I. AM. THE. SEXY. SHOELESS. GOD. OF. FXCKING. WAR!". Baarsuvious then acknowledges the similarity, stating that he will have to "prepare 'deflect lawsuit'". Additionally, Elon's line in the final panel is of the same structure as Elan's signature songs. While there may not be any strong legal grounds yet, it's skating on thin ice.

As an additional note to Belkar=awesome, profanity is not permitted in Fan Comics. While you have 'disguised' it by substituting X, we are asked to use the forum filter as a guideline, and substituting another letter probably come under "Circumventing the Board filters", which is a minor infraction.

Belkar=awesome, I suggest you rewrite "The Good Guys" into original characters, and cut down on the profanity. This comic shows potential, you don't want to ruin it.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-01, 03:16 PM
Oh, my. It seems I have some explaining to do.


Sure. They could be, at which point it would be fine. I never said that these characters would definitely be ground for legal action, but they don't seem either original characters or deliberate parodies so far.
They have almost exactly the same names, almost exactly the same appearances, and almost exactly the same roles. From what we've seen of the their personalities, it seems that Belker and Vaarsuvius have undergone a simple switch.


Yes, they are paradies (mostly.) I will take each seperately, and tell you why I don't think I should be sued:
Buttercup and Wesley: They have nothing to do with the order of the stick, although the creater of "The Princess Bride" might get ticked off. I only took the names, and the fact that they are in love, the personalities are completely different and I was feeling uncreative when I had to come up with their names. I may or may not later make "Princess Bride" jokes, but only in the context of them being the only characters to have never seen the movie.
Drunkon: A play on the prejudice that all Dwarves are supposedly beer-loving drunks and also clerics. Has not made an apperance yet, but I thought the combination had a potential for hilarity.
Velkar and Baarsuvius: Okay, yes, I took a little from Rich, but it was purely parody. The "Good Guys" will not show up very often, and mostly just for comic relief.
Elon: All bards act like this and I was tired as heck when I had to name him. Don't judge me.


However, in Comic #10 "The Good Guys" are introduced. The set up implies that they will be recurring characters, as they are the opponents/competitors to what appear to be the principle villains. 'Velkar' then emphasises how similar his personality is to Belkar's in that comic, with his cry of "I. AM. THE. SEXY. SHOELESS. GOD. OF. FXCKING. WAR!". Baarsuvious then acknowledges the similarity, stating that he will have to "prepare 'deflect lawsuit'". Additionally, Elon's line in the final panel is of the same structure as Elan's signature songs. While there may not be any strong legal grounds yet, it's skating on thin ice.

Again, they won't be around much, and not for a while. A lot of things will happen between now and when their existance is relevent agian. And really, what was I supposed to make him sing? Elan is the only basis for bard songs I have to work with here.


As an additional note to Belkar=awesome, profanity is not permitted in Fan Comics. While you have 'disguised' it by substituting X, we are asked to use the forum filter as a guideline, and substituting another letter probably come under "Circumventing the Board filters", which is a minor infraction.

Ok, good to know, I'll keep that in mind.


Belkar=awesome, I suggest you rewrite "The Good Guys" into original characters, and cut down on the profanity. This comic shows potential, you don't want to ruin it.

Thank you for the compliment, and the advice, but I think I'm going to have to go with a compromise solution here: I'll keep my characters, and their personalities (for the most part), but make sure they don't stray too far into Rich's domain, and make sure they're unique enough to be remembered as my creation, not a play on someone elses (except, of course, deliberate parody, in which case I'll put a sidenote claiming parody.)

Happy?


PS: If someone could give me advice on what words are and are not allowed by forum standards, it would be much appreciated. :smallsmile:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-01, 03:18 PM
Belkar=awesome, I agree with Keris Rain's point about profanity. It is against official rules, so you should probably fix that.

But other then that, don't listen to him. I'm sure that these characters are fine as long as it's lampshaded and used in moderation. Don't take him too seriously. He has been repetitively asked to chill out. :smalltongue:

Keris
2009-07-01, 03:38 PM
Thank you for the compliment, and the advice, but I think I'm going to have to go with a compromise solution here: I'll keep my characters, and their personalities (for the most part), but make sure they don't stray too far into Rich's domain, and make sure they're unique enough to be remembered as my creation, not a play on someone elses (except, of course, deliberate parody, in which case I'll put a sidenote claiming parody.)
I think this should work. As long as they're distinct enough to be easily identified as a separate character, you should be fine.


Happy?
Not yet, but the computer tells me that I will have cake later, so I expect I shall be. Obvious joke is obvious. Tautologies are tautological.

PS: If someone could give me advice on what words are and are not allowed by forum standards, it would be much appreciated. :smallsmile:
You can always put any text your unsure of into the New Reply window, and hit "Preview Post" but not "Submit Reply". That way anything that would be filtered will be, and you'll know for sure. I'd hesitate to try and come up with a list of filtered words, for obvious reasons.


But other then that, don't listen to him. I'm sure that these characters are fine as long as it's lampshaded and used in moderation. Don't take him too seriously. He has been repetitively asked to chill out. :smalltongue:
O U :smalltongue:

Trickywiggy
2009-07-02, 05:45 AM
I was glad to see that you posted them here because I was sad when I saw that the site had been taken down.

Keep on doing what you do!

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-02, 02:35 PM
New comic!

Comic #013: It's certainly unlucky for the belhop.
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3485/13a.png
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/491/13b.png


Like/Dislike?
Comments, please!


PS: I've fixed the profanity problem. :smallsmile:

Bayar
2009-07-02, 03:15 PM
New comic!

Comic #013: If Belkar was Lawful Good
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Like/Dislike?
Comments, please!

Too much copy-paste , no expresion change, used Belkar's name in the title...

You need practice, and a better art program, and a scriptwriter.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-02, 07:02 PM
Too much copy-paste , no expresion change.

You need practice, and a better art program, and a scriptwriter.
So you liked it, then?:smalltongue:

(Seriously, find me a Neutrals comic that doesn't use copy-paste, and I'll show you fan art.)

The only things IN a comic are the
1. artwork
2. dialouge

So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it? :smallconfused:

Salty
2009-07-02, 07:20 PM
So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it? :smallconfused:

I think that he was being a bit blunt with his feedback, but he does have a point. The comic is okay so far, but with a few improvements in the script, and an art update, this comic could be a lot better. I like the premise of this comic, but get rid of the OotS ripoffs and upgrade your art, and with time you will have an excellent comic on your hands. We can give you some advice as to how to improve your comic, but the greatest and most influential changes will come with time and practice. That being said, good luck, and I hope to see this comic continue for a good while. :smallbiggrin:

Nameless
2009-07-02, 07:29 PM
I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it? :smallconfused:

He was trying to give you constructive criticism. :3

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-02, 07:39 PM
He was trying to give you constructive criticism. :3

Only without all the...constructive stuff.

I seriously thought the comic is okay. Okay script (good script writing comes with practise. It'll improve in time), and I actually think the artwork, while maybe not the best or most expressive, is quite charming. :smallsmile:

I don't mean you shouldn't improve it, but it doesn't suck because the art isn't the best it could be.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-02, 08:38 PM
Only without all the...constructive stuff.

I seriously thought the comic is okay. Okay script (good script writing comes with practise. It'll improve in time), and I actually think the artwork, while maybe not the best or most expressive, is quite charming. :smallsmile:

I don't mean you shouldn't improve it, but it doesn't suck because the art isn't the best it could be.

Thanks.

I'm still very new at this, so I hope I'll get better.

I've been in an...interesting...mood lately (okay, bluntly, I've been a grouchy, tired :smallmad:hole all week) so my posts might be a bit harsh.

I'll try to get some sleep tonight and make another comic soon (hopeful a better one).

Ciao,
Belkar=awsome.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-03, 10:11 AM
New comic today

Comic #014: Deep Questions
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1354/014r.gif

I'm in a better mood. (thank god.)

Q's/Comments

PS: Oh, yeah! Almost forgot. I'm trying a new format today. It loads faster but it looks different.

Like/Dislike? Why?

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-03, 10:31 AM
....Weird.

It took me a while to realize it was a news anchor without any news subtitles.

Bayar
2009-07-03, 12:13 PM
So you liked it, then?:smalltongue:

(Seriously, find me a Neutrals comic that doesn't use copy-paste, and I'll show you fan art.)

The only things IN a comic are the
1. artwork
2. dialouge

So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it? :smallconfused:

I didnt said that I dont like the comic or that it sucks. Just that you need practice (the guy that starts crying...put some pauldrons on his shoulders so it wont look awkwardly blockish, that sort of stuff improves a comic). As for the dialogue, that comes with time, but with another dude to read it before it is inserted in a comic, he can give you extra options...
I didnt intend to sound rude, but i guess that my last post was poorly worded.

@Salty: yeah, blunt. Probably because i only have a cell phone for internet, for now.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-05, 10:40 AM
I didnt said that I dont like the comic or that it sucks. Just that you need practice (the guy that starts crying...put some pauldrons on his shoulders so it wont look awkwardly blockish, that sort of stuff improves a comic). As for the dialogue, that comes with time, but with another dude to read it before it is inserted in a comic, he can give you extra options...
I didnt intend to sound rude, but i guess that my last post was poorly worded.

@Salty: yeah, blunt. Probably because i only have a cell phone for internet, for now.

Well then, I'm very sorry I overreacted to your comment due to lack of sleep and a bad mood.

In other news, I'm almost done with a new comic. :smallsmile: I'll try to have someone look over it this time.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-05, 05:42 PM
New comic:
(Sorry, it's a bit short.)

#015: Let's just hope he doesn't try to hold her hand...
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8742/015m.gif

Like it/Hate it?
Q's/Comments?

New format:
Scrap it/Keep it?

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-06, 12:34 AM
New comic! (Whew! I am on a roll!)

Comic #016: A very appropriate song choice
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3900/016e.gif

Like it/Hate it?
Q's/Comments?

EDIT: Sorry for the triple post...I didn't realize nobody was posting anything.:smalleek::smallfrown:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-06, 07:41 AM
Ah. Very good character development. Backstories are always good for that. :smallwink:

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-08, 07:04 PM
Okay, I've decided that I'm not going to update randomly anymore. For now, I'm going to update once a week, every Monday. Once I build up a nice buffer, I might update more frequently.:smallsmile:

(Oh, and I'm keeping the new format.)

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-08, 08:14 PM
I just think I should tell you, if you plan on changing the comic description every so often, you might want to make other plans. The title and comic description become permanent after a number of days, so you should settle on whatever title you'll be happy with keeping forever.

Just in case you didn't know that.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-13, 09:49 AM
I have a new comic and some great news (for the nonexistant people that read my comic.)

Comic:

Comic 17: Just to remind you that somebody is telling this story
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4189/017l.gif

News:

I've downloaded Inkscape!

I redid the first comic in Inkscape:
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5323/comic1.png

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-13, 10:00 AM
I have a new comic and some great news (for the nonexistant people that read my comic.)

How dare you doubt my existence! :smallmad::smalltongue:


Comic:

Comic 17: Just to remind you that somebody is telling this story
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4189/017l.gif

Wow! The gray outfit! So much more beautiful then the black outfit! :smalltongue:


News:

I've downloaded Inkscape!

I redid the first comic in Inkscape:
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5323/comic1.png

Wow. Massive improvement in the the art, there.

Although I don't recommend you redo all the old comics before you do any new ones. I would recommend gradually redoing them, but focusing on new comics so we can all still read.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-14, 02:31 PM
Wow. Massive improvement in the the art, there.

Although I don't recommend you redo all the old comics before you do any new ones. I would recommend gradually redoing them, but focusing on new comics so we can all still read.

Yeah. I'm going to still make one new comic a week, but they'll be in Inkscape and I'll also put up the Inkscape version of an old comic.

For example: next Monday, I'll put up Comic 18 (in Inkscape) and Comic 2 (in Inkscape).

I think that seems like a reasonable goal.

Trickywiggy
2009-07-19, 09:03 AM
You might want to work on the text in inkscape, it gets a little small in the redo

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-19, 11:27 AM
You might want to work on the text in inkscape, it gets a little small in the redo

I'll take that into consideration.
Also, only 6 different people have posted on this page:
Me,
Bayar,
The_Q,
Salty,
Nameless,
and you.
An entire page full of only 6 people...and three of them only posted once...weird.

Well, at least people are posting! (It'd be a real bummer if nobody even noticed it existed:smalleek:)

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-19, 12:06 PM
Well, at least people are posting! (It'd be a real bummer if nobody even noticed it existed:smalleek:)

Yes, it's easy to forget that people are reading when they do not post.

However, you must remember that you have 1,018 views. While those may not be individual people, I highly doubt that only 6 people and yourself can total up to this amount. You have more readers then you know who just don't feel like posting replies.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-19, 12:13 PM
Yes, it's easy to forget that people are reading when they do not post.

However, you must remember that you have 1,018 views. While those may not be individual people, I highly doubt that only 6 people and yourself can total up to this amount. You have more readers then you know who just don't feel like posting replies.

Thanks. :smallsmile: Didn't think about that.

Well, invisible readers, new comic and new inkscape redo comic tomorrow, so be on the lookout. Let's hope my internet doesn't crash and burn again like it has alarmingly been doing a lot recently.

Blayze
2009-07-19, 12:15 PM
I know I'm guilty of this. I only post when I think I have something to say, which never really seems to happen when reading webcomics. :P

Cizak
2009-07-19, 06:47 PM
I think this is okay. I'll keep (somewhat) track on it, and I think your art-upgrade is goooo:smallbiggrin:ooood.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-19, 08:30 PM
I've added a new section to the first post, for those who would like a bit of extra distinguishing info on the characters.
Go check it out. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6387286&postcount=1)

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-20, 10:15 AM
New comics!

Comic #2: Introductions
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/3689/comic2.png

Comic #18: Look, a map!
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7088/comic18.png

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 10:32 AM
So you liked it, then?:smalltongue:

(Seriously, find me a Neutrals comic that doesn't use copy-paste, and I'll show you fan art.)

The only things IN a comic are the
1. artwork
2. dialouge

So you don't like the artwork (you want me to use a new art program) and you don't like the dialouge, (you want me to get a scriptwriter) you don't like the comic.
I know the art isn't the greatest, but if you don't even like the comic, why are you reading it? :smallconfused:

you are over simplifying it. There's also plot (or lack thereof), humour and storytelling. And these are just a few examples because my brain is working on emergency generators right now.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-20, 11:08 AM
you are over simplifying it. There's also plot (or lack thereof), humour and storytelling. And these are just a few examples because my brain is working on emergency generators right now.

:smallfrown:

I know now that I was overreacting. I was very tired and grumpy and ticked off, even though that's really no excuse. I'd like to make a formal appology to all that were offended by my harsh comments, and direct your attention instead to my new comic.

Now can we please all just forget about it, maybe? That'd be nice. Thanks.

Trickywiggy
2009-07-21, 08:56 AM
Well it is hard for someone to be criticl of your work. And about the comments, you ahd none on your own sight because you commented yourself upon that on those old forums. Just know that you always ahve one person who will check every monday. It does keep getting better.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-22, 09:56 AM
Ok, change of plans.

Inkscape'd comics will be put up whenever I finish with them.

New comics will be up on Mondays and Fridays, unless something comes up.

My birthday is next Monday, so expect a comic on Tuesday instead.

Thanks!

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-23, 06:47 PM
Hey, I need help naming a character. Any ideas? It's a boy, an elf. It has to be a kind of common name.

Thanks.

In other news, comic tomorrow!

Blayze
2009-07-24, 01:53 AM
Dave. Everyone knows a Dave or five.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-24, 11:39 AM
New comic! http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/884/019u.png

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-24, 09:46 PM
...10 hours and no comments. :smallfrown: At least tell me if you liked it. Please?
EDIT: 20 hours and no comments.
EDIT: 24 hours and no comments.

Trickywiggy
2009-07-25, 01:16 PM
...10 hours and no comments. :smallfrown: At least tell me if you liked it. Please?
EDIT: 20 hours and no comments.
EDIT: 24 hours and no comments.

Like I said, just keep doing what you are doing. I pop in every couple of days. Some people may not be expecting a comic til Monday.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-26, 03:59 PM
Like I said, just keep doing what you are doing. I pop in every couple of days. Some people may not be expecting a comic til Monday.

Yeah, I just feel weird double/triple/what-have-you posting. This thread feels sorta abandoned.

I'll live, I guess. So, did you like the comic?

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-26, 04:21 PM
Sorry. I would've posted a comment, but I just came back from my vacation.

Anyway, the comic was pretty good, I would have to say. The last panel was pretty funny, and seems to be setting up a running gag, which are always nice.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-26, 09:36 PM
Ok, change of plans.

Inkscape'd comics will be put up whenever I finish with them.

New comics will be up on Mondays and Fridays, unless something comes up.

My birthday is next Monday, so expect a comic on Tuesday instead.

Thanks!

You know what? Screw it. I just finished the comic, so I'm going to put it up on Monday regardless.


Sorry. I would've posted a comment, but I just came back from my vacation.

Anyway, the comic was pretty good, I would have to say. The last panel was pretty funny, and seems to be setting up a running gag, which are always nice.

Thanks!:smallsmile:

The next comic has some action. I love Inkscape. It was so much easier doing a fight scene with Inkscape, and it looks so much cleaner compared to my Paint version. I also messed with a cool special effect...but I digress. You'll have to check back tomorrow to read the comic.:smallbiggrin:

Ciao for now,
Belkar=awsome

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-27, 10:30 AM
NEW COMIC!

#20
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6339/020d.png

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-29, 10:21 AM
Please Comment.
Please Comment.
Please Comment.
Please Comment.
Please Comment.
Please Comment.

Here's my comment:

SHUT UP! :smallsigh:

Don't be so friggen hard on yourself. Your comic does not suck. It was not "godawful". You should continue to make comics.

I apologize, but if there are two things that annoy me most, it would probably have to be a self-hating artist who makes pretty good comics, and people who beg for comments. I mean, you don't see ME doing that, do you? It's disgraceful! Show some self-respect!

*waits for infraction*

As for the comic, I can't actually see it. I just see a red X. I almost saw it once, but then it suddenly became a red X.

[EDIT] Now I see it. It's pretty good, but the guard keeps staring at me. Maybe you should make his eyes towards the side of his head instead of centered to make it look less strange. Other then that, pretty good. The characters are pretty stiff, though.

Zanaril
2009-07-29, 11:43 AM
You're doing fine so far; as Q said, don't expect people to comment all the time, and don't rely on readers comments for motivation.

As for your comic, the main problems with it at the moment are with the art. The plot and characters are interesting, but the drawings don't show anything except for the bare minimum requred to show what's going on. I assume you're using a vector program to make the comics, so take advantage of the fact that you can easily reposition the lines and other aspects of the characters. Simply tilting their heads a bit and making them move their arms between panels would add a lot more life to them.

I also recommend changing the proportions of the characters a bit; at the moment they all have large bodies, and since most of the detail is on the heads it makes them look a bit bland. I also suggest you thicken up the lines used for the arms and legs to make them look a bit more purposeful.

Lastly, put the facial features of characters to one side so it looks as though they're looking at each other rather that the audience, and have their mouths open (different amounts depending on emotion/how loud they're speaking) when they're talking. It'll make a big difference. :smallsmile:

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-29, 02:36 PM
:smalleek:Oh god, I'm doing it again, aren't I?

:smallsigh:

Jesus. Sorry. No, seriously, I do this all the time. I have an amount of patience that would not overflow a thimble.

I am not good at social skills. I'm really trying to work on that. Hopefully, I'll grow out of it. I've got a long life ahead of me, I don't want to be a b**** the whole time.

I am the biggest pessimist I have ever met. If nobody is telling me something doesn't suck, I assume it sucks. And you know what happens when you assume.
(If you don't, I'm not telling you. The forums have a no-swearing rule.)

A lot of people forgot my birthday. I'm in a very bad mood, and I took it out on all you wonderful people in the forums. I'm sorry.

I'll take the advice into account.

Could I maybe make it up to you with an early comic?

21
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/536/021.png

From now on, I'll only post when I have a comic, so as not to sound so much like an overactive 3-year-old.

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-07-29, 02:49 PM
:smalleek:Oh god, I'm doing it again, aren't I?

:smallsigh:

Jesus. Sorry. No, seriously, I do this all the time. I have an amount of patience that would not overflow a thimble.

I am not good at social skills. I'm really trying to work on that. Hopefully, I'll grow out of it. I've got a long life ahead of me, I don't want to be a b**** the whole time.

I am the biggest pessimist I have ever met. If nobody is telling me something doesn't suck, I assume it sucks. And you know what happens when you assume.

From now on, I'll only post when I have a comic, so as not to sound so much like an overactive 3-year-old.
You're doing it again. :smalltongue:

Bayar
2009-07-29, 05:45 PM
You're doing it again. :smalltongue:

Oops, he did it again ! :tongue:

If you just:
Place the wights head lower so his shoulders wouldnt look square;
Made the kobold small sized instead of medium, gave her two eyer instead of one and coloured them yellow or red or brown or whatever other similar color with a black outline and gave her a mouth that appears to have teeth instead of a straight one, oh and a tail;
Made the characters move their arms, legs, heads, bodies, mouths so they dont look like cardboard cut-outs;
Show the wounds and effects of magic missiles and fireballs on the targets;
That would improve the comic tenfold. At present, the story is good but the artwork still needs improving. And it appears to be going in the right direction. Keep up the good work !

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-30, 10:42 AM
Oops, he did it again ! :tongue:
[good advice]
Make the kobold small sized instead of medium, give her two eyer instead of one and colour them yellow or red or brown or whatever other similar color with a black outline and give her a mouth that appears to have teeth instead of a straight one, oh and a tail;
[good advice]

Why'd you do it, man? Why'd you have to go and say that? I pity you, because now Samantha is angry. :smalltongue:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7519/samangryatbayar1.png

:smallbiggrin: Comic 2 contains further details. And a cone of silence a la Get Smart. Go check it out!

(Also, I'm not a "He".)

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-31, 11:17 AM
New comic!
022
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/752/022.png

I've only got a few more comics to convert from my old Paint buffer before I'll be fully Inkscape. Hmm...I still need to redo some old comics, though...

Like/Dislike?

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-31, 11:19 AM
Interesting teleportation. I don't think I've ever seen it work like that.

Looks like it didn't heal them, though. :smallbiggrin:

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-31, 09:40 PM
Interesting teleportation. I don't think I've ever seen it work like that.

Looks like it didn't heal them, though. :smallbiggrin:

Yeah, it most definatly did not heal them. :smallsmile: Teleportation works a little differently in Ether, (The name I use for the in-comic world because I can't think of a better one, if you have suggestions post them please!) but it still doesn't heal.
Comic #6 is Inkscape'd, 11 more to go.

Does anyone have a favorite character yet? Mine (of the ones we've met so far) is Em.

Ciao,
B. A.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-03, 08:30 AM
It's Monday! New Redo, (10 more to go!) and new comic:

007:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8058/007u.png

023:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2353/023w.png

Fun Fact: Jeremy is my favorite character (besides Em.):smallsmile:

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-05, 10:01 AM
Don't expect a comic on Friday; I'll be camping. The Monday comic will come on time, but Friday is out.

Thanks,
B.A.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-09, 02:23 PM
To those who care: I'm back from camping, and comic tomarrow.
(To those who don't give a crap...well, screw you! Why are you even reading?)

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-10, 10:15 AM
New comic!

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5127/024x.png

Now then, enough backstory, let's get back to the story.

Thoughts? Ideas? Questions? Hate mail? Pie?

EDIT: Also, new redo! (9 more to go!):smallsmile:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-08-10, 06:18 PM
The colouring of speech. I guess this will be a fourth-wall breaking comic then?

Yeah, we've never seen THAT before.

Either way, pretty good comic. Look forward to the next one. And I recommend not posting to tell us you're back from camping until you actually post your comic, or else you'll quintuple post (I think) like you've done there. I would bet that's a pretty painful sight, and that it would feel like nobody cares.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-14, 10:19 PM
Ha HA! I just barely made it, but I made it!

025
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6141/025e.png

By the way, you should check out what I'm doing in the A&C Forum. Here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121624).

Green-Shirt Q
2009-08-15, 08:33 AM
Funny punchline. :smallbiggrin:

I still suggest that the characters eyes are placed closer to the sides of their heads so it doesn't look like the characters are looking at us. It looks better, but still sorta centered, ya know?

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-17, 08:04 PM
I made a comic.

HOORAY!

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/23/026u.png

Brogen
2009-08-17, 09:43 PM
I do enjoy reading this comic. Nice job.

One thing I'm suprised no one has mentioned yet: try making the lines of all the characters the same line thickness (highlight in inkscape and go to the thickness changing window), instead of everyone being different, it's esspecially noticable between the wight and elf girl--who's names allude me at the moment--since the wight has outer lines maybe one pixel wide, and her's are 3 or more.

Just a suggestion.

Keep up the good work.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-18, 12:12 PM
I do enjoy reading this comic. Nice job.

One thing I'm suprised no one has mentioned yet: try making the lines of all the characters the same line thickness (highlight in inkscape and go to the thickness changing window), instead of everyone being different, it's esspecially noticable between the wight and elf girl--who's names allude me at the moment--since the wight has outer lines maybe one pixel wide, and her's are 3 or more.

Just a suggestion.

Keep up the good work.

Hmm. I'll try that.

(BTW, their names are Manzel and Em, FFR.)

Trickywiggy
2009-08-23, 12:13 AM
wheres my update?

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-23, 12:11 PM
wheres my update?

Oh shoot. I totally blanked out on doing the comic.

I'll do it soon, and try to have it up by tomarrow.

Sorry!:smallredface:

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-23, 02:07 PM
COMIC! YAY!

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1784/027q.png

I would've claimed writer's block, but after watching this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g24lvQajwWM) I can no longer believe in it.

Damn you, wheezy waiter!

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-08-28, 11:36 PM
Sorry, my (hypothetical) readers, I can't make a new comic until next friday. :smallfrown:


But when I DO make a comic, I promise you all an awesome one.

Delorges
2009-08-31, 04:39 PM
Hi!
I'm one of your "hypothetical" *cough* readers and thought I should finally come and say hello. Been reading since, dunno, strip 9 or something like that?
Well, I guess the fact I still read it says enough about my opinion of your comic. :smallbiggrin: Keep it up!

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-06, 02:04 PM
Oh crap.

ohcrapohcrapohcrapohcrapoh CRAP!:smalleek:
My computer just died. It bit it. It blacked out. Went down the tube. Whatever.

I've tried everything. I'm just not going to be able to get a comic out unless we fix my computer. It won't even turn on.:smalleek::smalleek::smalleek:

Sorry.
I MIGHT be able to use my sisters computer, but it's incredibly slow. (It's what I'm using right now, in case you were wondering.)

:eek:

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-14, 07:29 PM
I HAVE GOOD NEWS AND I HAVE BAD NEWS.

The good news is that I got a new computer. :smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin::smallbiggrin:
The bad news is that you have to wait a bit longer for comics while I re-draw all my characters. :smallmad:

But still, progress!

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-15, 05:41 PM
Methos Hazara's guest comic has inspired me to reach for new hights! (and widths and lengths! Hahaha.) So, without further ado, I give you:
(Da dada DA!)
The art upgrade!

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8617/characterlineupx.png

Warning: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I worked hard on that.

New comic will come soon.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-09-15, 05:48 PM
Methos Hazara's guest comic has inspired me to reach for new hights! (and widths and lengths! Hahaha.) So, without further ado, I give you:
(Da dada DA!)
The art upgrade!

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8617/characterlineupx.png

Warning: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I worked hard on that.

New comic will come soon.

HUGE improvement! This will make an already great comic even better. I am having much trouble waiting for the next comic. :smallsmile:

T-O-E
2009-09-15, 05:50 PM
Warning: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I worked hard on that.

What about constructive criticism?

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-15, 05:53 PM
What about constructive criticism?

As long as it's
1. ACTUALLY constructive, not just an excuse to say what sucks, and
2. phrased in a nice way,

it's fine. :smallsmile:

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-09-15, 05:55 PM
2. phrased in a nice way,
See, now you're just being picky. Good advice is good advice, who cares if it hurts your ever so delicate feelings? :smalltongue:

In all seriousness though, the difference in art quality is huge. I think the pointed ends on the open mouths are kind of weird though.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-15, 06:08 PM
See, now you're just being picky. Good advice is good advice, who cares if it hurts your ever so delicate feelings? :smalltongue:

In all seriousness though, the difference in art quality is huge. I think the pointed ends on the open mouths are kind of weird though.

Yes, I still need to work on the mouths.

And I don't mean nice way as in "You're comic is awesome and wonderful there's just this time little problem here oh well I'm probably just being picky.",
I mean not insulting. Like, saying "Dude, you're characters are ugly. Just change the friggen line length or something." would be not nice. Pretty much everything else is fine.

MethosH
2009-09-15, 09:20 PM
Methos Hazara's guest comic has inspired me to reach for new hights! (and widths and lengths! Hahaha.) So, without further ado, I give you:
(Da dada DA!)
The art upgrade!

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8617/characterlineupx.png

Warning: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. I worked hard on that.

New comic will come soon.

WOW!

So that is why I'm not reading any new The Neutrals latelly...
I'm glad I've inspired you! That is a huge improvement and a great surprise!
Are you using InkScape?

EDIT:
By the way... You should make a new banne that says "Un-crappyness is guarenteed"
EDIT 2:
I wonder if this is the spell "Epic Comicus Uncrappius"

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-16, 07:46 AM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7697/74155283.png

(This replaces the other one as comic 27.):smallsmile:

Bayar
2009-09-16, 07:50 AM
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7697/74155283.png

(This replaces the other one as comic 27.):smallsmile:

Whoah ! You have improved since I left...

Delorges
2009-09-16, 08:56 AM
Uoah to the new art! MUCH better. Didn't think you could improve that much so fast.
Yeah, big and great art update, keep it up! As for the last comic, they don't seem to be walking/moving at all. Maybe some changing background (a tree or a rock they walk past would suffice) would help. Apart from that, quite nice. looking forward to more.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-17, 05:21 PM
Thank you all for the kind words! I personally love the new look. :smallsmile:

New comic:

Comic 28
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9477/comic28.png

MethosH
2009-09-17, 05:27 PM
cool ^^
are you using inkscape?

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-18, 07:21 AM
cool ^^
are you using inkscape?

Yep. :smallsmile:

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-20, 03:23 AM
New comic.
(with rightful props to The Hypertext D20 SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/goblin.htm)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3190/comic29.png

That book was hard to draw. :P

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-20, 02:24 PM
New comic.
(with rightful props to The Hypertext D20 SRD (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/goblin.htm)

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3190/comic29.png

That book was hard to draw. :P

All work and no comments makes jack BA a dull boy girl. :frown:

In other news, I have a cold,:smallfrown: my sister got a new cat, :smallannoyed::smallamused:and I haven't failed any classes yet. :smallbiggrin:

As towards the comic schedule: Currently random. Once my god^&*% mandatory (Ok, so it was that or gym) golf team ends (early October) I should be able to slip into a less hectic schedule.
I'll try to get out as many as possible, though. :smallsmile:

MethosH
2009-09-20, 02:51 PM
It is looking good :smallbiggrin:
But I think Sam's cape is a little odd, not sure why :smallconfused:
Question: Why aren't you updating the first post anymore? :smallconfused:

By the way, I didn't knew that about goblins :smallbiggrin:

CrimsonAngel
2009-09-20, 03:58 PM
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/fan.png
Woooo.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-21, 09:52 AM
It is looking good :smallbiggrin:
But I think Sam's cape is a little odd, not sure why :smallconfused:
Question: Why aren't you updating the first post anymore? :smallconfused:

By the way, I didn't knew that about goblins :smallbiggrin:

yeah, it's a very common misconception. I've always wondered why people think they're green...*thoughtful expression*


http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e381/CrimsonAngelChris/fan.png
Woooo.

...Awesomesauce.

MethosH
2009-09-21, 12:42 PM
yeah, it's a very common misconception. I've always wondered why people think they're green...*thoughtful expression

The giant told me they were green and I belived :smalltongue:

CrimsonAngel
2009-09-21, 04:40 PM
Wait... arn't kobolds and goblins both short?

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-21, 07:14 PM
Wait... arn't kobolds and goblins both short?


Kobolds are short, reptilian humanoids with cowardly and sadistic tendencies.

A kobold’s scaly skin ranges from dark rusty brown to a rusty black color. It has glowing red eyes. Its tail is nonprehensile. Kobolds wear ragged clothing, favoring red and orange. A kobold is 2 to 2˝ feet tall and weighs 35 to 45 pounds. Kobolds speak Draconic with a voice that sounds like that of a yapping dog.


A goblin stands 3 to 3˝ feet tall and weigh 40 to 45 pounds. Its eyes are usually dull and glazed, varying in color from red to yellow. A goblin’s skin color ranges from yellow through any shade of orange to a deep red; usually all members of a single tribe are about the same color. Goblins wear clothing of dark leather, tending toward drab, soiled-looking colors. Goblins speak Goblin; those with Intelligence scores of 12 or higher also speak Common.

Most goblins encountered outside their homes are warriors.


There's a difference, but they're both shorter than an adult human.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-21, 07:51 PM
Sorry for the double post, but...maybe it's too much to ask, but if anyone could make banners for me, that'd be really nice.

Also, looking at that kobald description made me think about the color of Samantha's skin.
Hmmm...maybe I should change it...

MethosH
2009-09-21, 08:52 PM
I think that by the rules of this parituclar sub-forum you are allowed to double post and thread necromancy on your own comic thread so don't worry :smalltongue:

If I have the time I may be able to come up with a banner in 4 days or so

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-22, 11:12 AM
I'm going to start another new webcomic in addition to The Neutrals. Here's the preview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmohNUtY3Yg

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-09-30, 05:36 PM
I'm putting The Neutrals on Hiatus for a little while while I figure out where I want it to go.

Sorry, peoples of the forum.:smallfrown:

You can still read my other webcomic Molly and the Waves.

Trickywiggy
2009-10-13, 09:54 PM
well I was gone for a while and was excited when I came back and saw the awesome art upgrade, then was disappointed with the hiatus.