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DoomITP
2009-07-15, 03:04 PM
Welcome to the 24th ABR Discussion Thread!
Now go make comics!
Because we used to burn through new ABR threads so quickly, we created the Discussion thread. All banter goes here, and all comics and non-canon kills go in the main thread. (see line below)

Avatar Battle Royale: We All Live in A Yellow Citadel (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88925) is the current thread. Post artwork there.
Even though it seems to be holding together nicely;
The ABR backup thread (http://z15.invisionfree.com/Remember/index.php?showtopic=161), is used in the event of Giantitp becoming untenable due to server issues or otherwise.
The next link is quite good, although it could have used some more images.
Trailer for the Fat Fish Fury plot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqh4cOewDNg) by Kpenguin
The next one should have had music, but didn't. :(
Trailer for ABR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMSlrT_9Goc) by Omicroncubed

Future Imperfect Trailer (http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/?action=view&current=ABRFITrailer.flv) by Nameless

The Amazing ABR Wiki (http://abr.wetpaint.com/)
It's free. It works. What else do you want?
The world map of Avbaroy (http://abr.wetpaint.com/page/Avbaroy)
Mad Mask is a good cartographer. Of course, he didn't make up the majority of the countries.
Backstory Comics
Because people always want the focus to be on them.
A Story of Death (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63750) By Nameless (Currently inactive)
A Tale of Two Fangs (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106818) By Falgorn (dead)
Endless (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68208) By Omicroncubed (active!)
Forest Fire (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107184) By CrimsonAngel (dead)
Remember (http://www.remembercomic.co.uk/) By Lyinginbedmon (active!)
The Blast Dragons (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73393) By Jasondoomsblade (dead)
Well that was unexpected (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68295) By Randomizer (active!)
Search (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77691) By Calamity (dead)
My Name is Q (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71239) By Q (finished)
The Fire Within (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91620) By Firedrake and Chriky (dead)
Dawn of Yesterday (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96629) by Fayt (dead)
The Skornbail Incident (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99901) by Shades of Gray (dead)
Planum Commedia (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114743) by Mad Mask (active!)
People find that web Active/dead means the status of the comic, not the person.comics are hard work.
Previous ABR main threads
We've been around a longish while now. But got shunted from the Main A+C area. We're Special!
First ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48645)
Second ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50666)
Third ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55646)
Fourth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59594)
Fifth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61122)
Sixth ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81279)
Seventh ABR thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84673)
Just saving space here don't you know...
Previous ABR discussion threads (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6302654&postcount=824)
Older discussion threads can viewed here.
I took an old post in the last thread and converted it to hold the links.
Fat Fish Fury (managed by Mechafox, thankee kindly.)
Part 1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3439552&postcount=663)
Part 2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3444141&postcount=793)
Part 3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3918591&postcount=229)
Part 4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4753626&postcount=406)
Part 5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5217814&postcount=383)
Last updated: 22/12/2008, with comic 1714.

The Pluperfect Plot (aka: Plot 3) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3803944&postcount=963) (also by Mechafox)
Handsome fellow that he is...
Sorcerer Dude Strikes Back (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3965082&postcount=633) (managed by Szilard)
Pretty sure he has a twin; could be wrong.
Sprite Wars Archive (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4380002&postcount=245) (managed by the_Q)
Resident old guy c(:.
Soon to come: Fat Fish Fury 2: Future Imperfect archive. (probably managed by Mad Mask)
List containing most PCs participating in Future Imperfect (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5530814&postcount=763)
The Organizational Chart of The Resistance (http://www.kinogo.com/victor/resistanceschema2.gif) (Both by Mad Mask, who has far too much time on his hands)
Seriously, he does. He's crazy like that.
BRC's Guide to Joining ABR (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5603132&postcount=1429).
Yarrr! I be changing the white text as well. Note, this is NOT a requirement for making a new thread.
Banners

This one by Shades of Gray:
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And one made by Lyinginbedmon:
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And these three by Mechafox:
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One by Boomwolf:
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There was one by Nameless, but he broke it.

A couple by Narrator:
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One by Lavidor:
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And five by Threeshades:
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A couple by Ichneumon (Spanish Text by joshu@fran.com):
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Avatar Battle Royale VI: We are the plot; Scripting is futile
Here, they cannot die. But they will join the plot!

Avatar Battle Royale VI (Combate Real del Avatar): Nosotros somos el guión; Redactar es inútil
Aquí, ellos no pueden morir. ¡Pero se unirán al guión!
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One by Szilard:
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Two by The Gremlin:
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Two Banners made by The_Q:
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http://i44.tinypic.com/etwrb7.png (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88925)
Who I almost didn't bold, the egotistical git.

Fishslap! By Fayt:
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Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-17, 04:06 AM
Ah, still got that new thread smell :smallsmile:

kpenguin
2009-07-17, 04:17 AM
And now you just stunk up the place.

Nice going, Lying.

Keveak
2009-07-17, 04:20 AM
And now you just stunk up the place.

Nice going, Lying.

At least he doesn't smell of wet penguin :smalltongue:


Yay! New thread *Run around yelling "New Thread! New thread!"*

Nameless
2009-07-17, 05:11 AM
@Nameless: Wouldn't Ins, a nanomachine soul in a dead (well the body was) wizard's body count as out of death's field of work? Thus every power related to death's job wouldn't work (neither nanomachines or corpses can die you know) and he could be weaker against Ins' attacks, that could explain why he doesn't just kill him.

And it's very different if it's Nameless that kills a person than if it was anyone else, Nameless has immortality (a power of death so if the victim fight back it could count as misuse) and omnipresence to help him.

If Ins has a soul and can die, he's readable. Nameless' other powers have nothing to do with how much he can harm Ins. His immortality has more to do with him already being dead, rather then being Death.

Keveak
2009-07-17, 05:33 AM
If Ins has a soul and can die, he's readable. Nameless' other powers have nothing to do with how much he can harm Ins. His immortality has more to do with him already being dead, rather then being Death.

He can stop working and be destroyed but his "soul" is a nanomachine's thus he's not a living being (more of a construct) and cannot "die", he shouldn't even get to an afterlife when we finish him.

To my knowledge being death never has given immortality (liches, zombies, vampires, they all can be defeated and send to the afterlifes they deserve)

Ninja Chocobo
2009-07-17, 05:44 AM
To my knowledge being death never has given immortality (liches, zombies, vampires, they all can be defeated and send to the afterlifes they deserve)

You can kill them, but they don't die.

Keveak
2009-07-17, 05:56 AM
You can kill them, but they don't die.

Isn't that's what kill means? (to make someone die) besides I didn't write die I wrote defeated and send to the afterlifes they deserve, so I don't get the point of your post.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-17, 06:13 AM
Whatever Onasuma's resurrection attempt put into Lying's corpse was something from the Sovice block that the spell identified as a "soul", some kind of energy signature related to the intellectual workings of it.

But it is very unlikely to be a traditional Incarnum-based soul, because if it were then the Sovices would be much more familiar with things like magic. It's more likely an energy similar to it but with a much more universe-native origin.

So Ins is technically soul-less, and an aberration of both Sovice and human physiology.

Ninja Chocobo
2009-07-17, 06:30 AM
Isn't that's what kill means? (to make someone die) besides I didn't write die I wrote defeated and send to the afterlifes they deserve, so I don't get the point of your post.

I mean, they're immortal unless they're killed; they don't die on their own.

Emperor Ing
2009-07-17, 06:32 AM
To kill, is to cause something so much damage that the being is unable to remain animated.

Threeshades
2009-07-17, 06:51 AM
To kill, is to cause something so much damage that the being is unable to remain animated.

By that definition you can kill robots and golems too.

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-07-17, 07:37 AM
To kill, is to cause something so much damage that the being is unable to remain animated.
I always considered the word kill to be used when one takes the life away from another living being. *shrugs*

Edit- Art thread discussion thread link updated.

Also, could anyone post that chart thing showing the Alf members and their respective ranks etc, please?(And one for the UNA if that was ever made?) I feel I should update all my templates to FI before the thing actually starts..

Scratch that, I found it in the first post. <.<

Somewhat outdated though, isn't it?

Squark
2009-07-17, 08:06 AM
Yeah.


Anyway.

Is anyone interested in reviving L&L with me?


EDIT: Also, I thought mods locked thread over the 50-page limit. I can understand letting the discussion threads go on until we got the new one approved but...


Or am I wrong?

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-17, 08:42 AM
EDIT: Also, I thought mods locked thread over the 50-page limit. I can understand letting the discussion threads go on until we got the new one approved but...


Or am I wrong?

The mods usually do, but they're pretty lackadaisical around here in general, and the ABR discussion has to go somewhere

Squark
2009-07-17, 08:59 AM
I meant, now that the new thread is up, why didn't they lock the old one.


For that matter, why isn't the discussion thread from 2 threads ago locked?

EDIT: After watching Nameless's trailer for FI, I was impressed, but I kept expecting it to switch to some kind of hard rock song and a montage of art... :smallfrown:

DoomITP
2009-07-17, 09:03 AM
Because they don't have to worry about us using the thread. They think we are smart people. :smalltongue:

chriky
2009-07-17, 09:31 AM
After watching Nameless's trailer for FI, I was impressed, but I kept expecting it to switch to some kind of hard rock song and a montage of art... :smallfrown:

Then watch my trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrAKBHt7pGI)instead.

There's no hard rock but there are art montages.

Also - Schools out, Go me. :smallbiggrin:

T-O-E
2009-07-17, 09:40 AM
Last day of school. Finally.

Nameless
2009-07-17, 10:08 AM
Speaking of Trailers, Megadoomer, the link to my trailer is the one where I accidentally typed "Feature Imperfect" instead of "Future Imperfect" I don't suppose you could change the link to this one could you?
http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/?action=view&current=ABRFI_0001.flv

memnarch
2009-07-17, 10:19 AM
Megadoomer; also please remove
Sixth ABR thread
Seventh ABR thread from the post as they are previous discussion threads, not discussion and art mixed together. (already added to the previous discussion thread link)

The Gremlin
2009-07-17, 10:42 AM
Wow, 24th page! We must be doing something right!
*Dances around, singing "New Thread, new thread, new thread, new thread..."*

Squark
2009-07-17, 10:59 AM
Then watch my trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrAKBHt7pGI)instead.

There's no hard rock but there are art montages.

Also - Schools out, Go me. :smallbiggrin:

I...


Am...


In...


Awe...


Great use of the Beatles!

SinisterPenguin
2009-07-17, 12:34 PM
Yay, new thread. And a nice new title, too. We're awfully self-deprecating, aren't we? :smalltongue:

Squark
2009-07-17, 05:47 PM
I'm wondering... Are there any programs that are a step up from Inkscape that don't cost as much as Adobe Illustrator?


Because I'm annoyed with some of Inkscape's limitations and eccentricities, but I don't have anywhere near the money for Illustrator.


EDIT: Also, Mad Mask, could you redraw your Squark Iota? I realize that at the time you didn't have a clear picture of him, but your depiction of him doesn't match my drawings at all.

Threeshades
2009-07-17, 07:09 PM
Can someone sum up what still needs to happen so we can finish FFF? If I had any knowledge of that i might be able to provide a page or two getting us there.

DoomITP
2009-07-17, 07:17 PM
We just need to complete the Battle of Alphantica.

kpenguin
2009-07-17, 07:19 PM
Can someone sum up what still needs to happen so we can finish FFF? If I had any knowledge of that i might be able to provide a page or two getting us there.

The apocalypse

Threeshades
2009-07-17, 08:16 PM
The apocalypse

A specific one? Zombie? Nuclear? The one with the four guys on horses? Or just any?

Lemming
2009-07-17, 08:24 PM
A specific one? Zombie? Nuclear? The one with the four guys on horses? Or just any?
The Sovice apocalypse. :smallbiggrin:

Keveak
2009-07-18, 02:41 AM
A specific one? Zombie? Nuclear? The one with the four guys on horses? Or just any?

Can't we use the one that floods the earth? It worked well last time... Though nuclear wastelands are always good.

Squark
2009-07-18, 10:05 AM
Bored...


So...


Bored.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-18, 10:11 AM
It is an oddly quiet day around here, yes

DoomITP
2009-07-18, 10:21 AM
What is going to happen first in FI after mad mask starts the plot? What meaningless subplot will we start?

Squark
2009-07-18, 10:53 AM
Dunno.


Again, apologies to any who find Squark's use of Imperceptible overpowered.

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-07-18, 11:20 AM
What is going to happen first in FI after mad mask starts the plot? What meaningless subplot will we start?

Don't think we have anything planned other then a few people with their own individual character intros.

Once Mad starts the plot, I guess people will just do that, and after the initial intro's someone is going to make a comic introducing some macguffin or something and that'll get the ball rolling.

Crimmy
2009-07-18, 11:46 AM
I've decided to pop here, just to see what the hell happens here.

So, I'm both new and lazy. 'Cause I don't feel like browsing around to see what I am supposed to be doing.
So, anyone can brief me without getting me dizzy?

Squark
2009-07-18, 12:16 PM
Ermm... Ok, but, to be honest, with FFF wrapping up, now is not a great time for newbies to join. Then again, I chose this time to rejoin, so that's a bit hypocritical of me.

Let's see...

Fat Fish Fury begins with Almighty Salmon falling in Love with Threeshades (TS for short). Threeshades then "falls in love" with Salmon's younger, but much larger, brother, Leroy. A fight breaks out, and Threeshades flees to her fortress of vengeance, with Salmon in pursuit. Both acquire several allies, most notably- Salmon meets his old friend Kpenguin, who has done a lot of the exposition, while TS meets up with Lyinginbedmon, who has cast a spell of permanent domination on her (in actuality, Threeshades rolled a natural 20 on her bluff check.. so yeah). Kpenguin then reveals TS's true goal: Leeroy is the only person who can open a mystic temple, within which is a macguffin which controls dragons, which will allow her to rule the world like her grandmother Sildyu before her. However, a parody of the Order of the Scribble stopped her and locked the temple, so it can only be opened with 5 keys.

There are more story arcs dealing with Threeshade's redemption, the death of the Aranthi Shades, and so on, but the last bit of FFF, and the major villains of its sequel, Future imperfect, are the sovice.

The Sovice are... essentially, they're magical replicators (from Stargate SG-1). Their leader is Inses... Insesectile or something or other. We just call him Ins. Ins is a clone of lying with the soul of a sovice block with in him. Ins has formed the United Nations of Avbaroy, which is attempting to solidify its hold over the world. The UNA appears to be benevolent, but the Sovice's record speaks for itself.

The last story arc of FFF deals with the battle of Aphlantica. Or something. Anyway, 2 Sovice battleships are bearing down on Aphlantica, attempting to destroy the last large hold of resistance to sovice domination.

The Sovice have the Soverign, and its sister ship, both nearly indestructible, while the Resistance has been reduced to The Citadel of Bis Anu (an ancient, magical, flying city).


For more info, read through the archive (which is sadly incomplete).

Visiting the wiki and reading any of the backstory comics (Lyinginbedmon's is the most informative, dealing with Sildyu's reign of terror, although the sovice do make an appearance.


EDIT: Urgh... Someone else try to summurise this in simpler terms while I try to read the comics that aren't in the archive.

Crimmy
2009-07-18, 12:26 PM
Even though it is too long, it was, in fact, very well summarized.
I almost entirely understood everything.

I'll see then what to do when a new story arc pops.

Shades of Gray
2009-07-18, 01:05 PM
Fat Fish Fury begins with Almighty Salmon falling in Love with Threeshades (TS for short)


Incorrect. I don't believe Salmon ever loved her. It began with him trying to kill Leroy for falling in love with the enemy.

Squark
2009-07-18, 01:12 PM
Well fine.


He asked her out on a date, fell in love, same difference.

Threeshades
2009-07-18, 01:31 PM
Incorrect. I don't believe Salmon ever loved her. It began with him trying to kill Leroy for falling in love with the enemy.

It began with Salmon hitting on Threeshades and Threeshades running away with Leroy after Salmon wanted to make him a giant filet, for falling in love with her.

Lemming
2009-07-18, 01:31 PM
I've decided to pop here, just to see what the hell happens here.

So, I'm both new and lazy. 'Cause I don't feel like browsing around to see what I am supposed to be doing.
So, anyone can brief me without getting me dizzy?
Ooh! Ooh! I know! :smallbiggrin:
We sit around talking about what ever the heck we feel like and very rarely someone sits down and makes a comic that may or may not actually advance the plot! :smalltongue:

Threeshades
2009-07-18, 01:33 PM
Ooh! Ooh! I know! :smallbiggrin:
We sit around talking about what ever the heck we feel like and very rarely someone sits down and makes a comic that may or may not actually advance the plot! :smalltongue:

you summed up abr. Congratulations :smallbiggrin:

Crimmy
2009-07-18, 01:41 PM
Great.
Anyone up to make the Hideous Nut-eating moose?

Squark
2009-07-18, 01:46 PM
Grr...

I can't find a picture of Ins in something casual looking to use as a reference.


Shades of Gray made a FI proto-comic awhile ago, does anyone know where it is?

EDIT: Never mind, found a comic that will work.

The Gremlin
2009-07-18, 02:34 PM
Ermm... Ok, but, to be honest, with FFF wrapping up, now is not a great time for newbies to join. Then again, I chose this time to rejoin, so that's a bit hypocritical of me.

Let's see...

Fat Fish Fury begins with Almighty Salmon falling in Love with Threeshades (TS for short). Threeshades then "falls in love" with Salmon's younger, but much larger, brother, Leroy. A fight breaks out, and Threeshades flees to her fortress of vengeance, with Salmon in pursuit. Both acquire several allies, most notably- Salmon meets his old friend Kpenguin, who has done a lot of the exposition, while TS meets up with Lyinginbedmon, who has cast a spell of permanent domination on her (in actuality, Threeshades rolled a natural 20 on her bluff check.. so yeah). Kpenguin then reveals TS's true goal: Leeroy is the only person who can open a mystic temple, within which is a macguffin which controls dragons, which will allow her to rule the world like her grandmother Sildyu before her. However, a parody of the Order of the Scribble stopped her and locked the temple, so it can only be opened with 5 keys.

There are more story arcs dealing with Threeshade's redemption, the death of the Aranthi Shades, and so on, but the last bit of FFF, and the major villains of its sequel, Future imperfect, are the sovice.

The Sovice are... essentially, they're magical replicators (from Stargate SG-1). Their leader is Inses... Insesectile or something or other. We just call him Ins. Ins is a clone of lying with the soul of a sovice block with in him. Ins has formed the United Nations of Avbaroy, which is attempting to solidify its hold over the world. The UNA appears to be benevolent, but the Sovice's record speaks for itself.

The last story arc of FFF deals with the battle of Aphlantica. Or something. Anyway, 2 Sovice battleships are bearing down on Aphlantica, attempting to destroy the last large hold of resistance to sovice domination.

The Sovice have the Soverign, and its sister ship, both nearly indestructible, while the Resistance has been reduced to The Citadel of Bis Anu (an ancient, magical, flying city).


For more info, read through the archive (which is sadly incomplete).

Visiting the wiki and reading any of the backstory comics (Lyinginbedmon's is the most informative, dealing with Sildyu's reign of terror, although the sovice do make an appearance.


EDIT: Urgh... Someone else try to summurise this in simpler terms while I try to read the comics that aren't in the archive.
You left out an important part: Ins is in Lying's original body. Lying died casting an apocalyptic spell, and after a chicken (not me)tried to resurrect him, a newly deceased Sovice spirit went into Lying's body instead. of course, Lying had many clones, so he came back to life, but that doesn't matter. What does is: Ins looks exactly like Lying, except that he has blue eyes and, these days, is looking a lot healthier.

Threeshades
2009-07-18, 02:36 PM
You left out an important part: Ins is in Lying's original body. Lying died casting an apocalyptic spell, and after a chicken (not me)tried to resurrect him, a newly deceased Sovice spirit went into Lying's body instead. of course, Lying had many clones, so he came back to life, but that doesn't matter. What does is: Ins looks exactly like Lying, except that he has blue eyes and, these days, is looking a lot healthier.

Doesnt he have green eyes?

Squark
2009-07-18, 02:44 PM
In answer to the subtitle of this thread.


Haste is the spell that has been cast on me to allow me to turn out so many comics recently...

Or maybe I'm just being a bit sloppy with the art...

Mad Mask
2009-07-18, 03:13 PM
Grr...

I can't find a picture of Ins in something casual looking to use as a reference.


Shades of Gray made a FI proto-comic awhile ago, does anyone know where it is?

EDIT: Never mind, found a comic that will work.

Currently he looks like this:

http://www.kinogo.com/victor/insinsuit2.png

Threeshades
2009-07-18, 03:15 PM
Currently he looks like this:

http://www.kinogo.com/victor/insinsuit2.png

forgot the mustache and the big purple hat.

chriky
2009-07-18, 03:47 PM
Currently he looks like this:

http://www.kinogo.com/victor/insinsuit2.png

I don't know if it's just me but that hat looks abit Awkward apart from that it looks really good.

Lemming
2009-07-18, 04:05 PM
Like the suit, but what the heck is that thing on his head? :smallconfused:
His hair looks slightly odd too.

kpenguin
2009-07-18, 04:06 PM
*whistles innocently as he waits*

Mad Mask
2009-07-18, 04:06 PM
I won't be able to draw anything this weekend, since I don't have my graphic tablet with me. So the next FFF is going to be Monday.


I don't know if it's just me but that hat looks abit Awkward apart from that it looks really good.

Thanks. It's a real type of hat, by the way.

@Squark: What the hell is Ins doing on the ship ?

kpenguin
2009-07-18, 04:47 PM
Its not so much the shape of the hat, but the position on the head that bothers me. Should not more of the head be inside the hat?

SinisterPenguin
2009-07-18, 04:48 PM
@Squark: What the hell is Ins doing on the ship ?

Also, Squark; if you want people to notice when you make a new comic in the same post as an old one, you might want to copy the contents of the post, delete it, and make a new one with both the old comic and the new one. The only reason I knew to look at the art thread was because MM posted about it.

Mad Mask
2009-07-18, 04:50 PM
Its not so much the shape of the hat, but the position on the head that bothers me. Should not more of the head be inside the hat?

Um...

It's an old drawing ?

SinisterPenguin
2009-07-18, 04:56 PM
Um...

It's an old drawing ?

I think it might look better if you forgo the hat entirely. It just seems like an odd thing for the ruler of the world to wear.

kpenguin
2009-07-18, 05:04 PM
I think it might look better if you forgo the hat entirely. It just seems like an odd thing for the ruler of the world to wear.

Rulers often have fancy hats.

Threeshades
2009-07-18, 06:16 PM
It's the size and the colour of the hat that bother me

kpenguin
2009-07-18, 07:23 PM
I'd have imagined Ins wearing something more businesslike, personally.

DoomITP
2009-07-18, 07:33 PM
How does the hat stay on?:smallconfused:

Mad Mask
2009-07-18, 07:34 PM
I'd have imagined Ins wearing something more businesslike, personally.

That picture is Ins in the end of FFF. In FI he looks like this:

http://www.kinogo.com/victor/fi/insinsuit.png

Although he does change his clothes everyday, so his appearance may vary from picture to picture.

Squark
2009-07-18, 07:35 PM
I won't be able to draw anything this weekend, since I don't have my graphic tablet with me. So the next FFF is going to be Monday.



Thanks. It's a real type of hat, by the way.

@Squark: What the hell is Ins doing on the ship ?

It's part of his plan.


I have no idea what it is.


Only that it involved being on the ship at that moment.


Look: It was a spur of the moment decision to provide a plot point for FI. The way I thought of it: Ins manipulated events so Squark would be on the ship for him to capture, because he needs a deity for some reason, and a god out of his/her own universe is much easier to capture than one in their own universe, since out of their own universe, their powers are reduced to... immortality, and whatever their class gives them.


Hmm... I'm really not sure about that comic anymore. Ignore it for the moment, I may make it non-canon...

kpenguin
2009-07-18, 07:37 PM
How does the hat stay on?:smallconfused:

That's what I wanna know!

Mad Mask
2009-07-18, 07:38 PM
That's what I wanna know!

It's stuffed inside.


It's part of his plan.


I have no idea what it is.


Only that it involved being on the ship at that moment.

I don't understand. If you have no idea than it's not fair to anybody, since it's more or less random.

kpenguin
2009-07-18, 07:39 PM
It's stuffed inside.

A stuffed hat would still fall off pretty easily on Ins' head if perched like that.

DoomITP
2009-07-18, 07:40 PM
That would make the hat even more likely to fall off!

Squark
2009-07-18, 07:41 PM
He does have lying's powers...


presumably he could enchant the hat if he wanted.


Permission to speak frankly?


That hat looks horrible.

Also, for the time being, consider the most recent comic non-canon.

Mad Mask
2009-07-18, 07:43 PM
A stuffed hat would still fall off pretty easily on Ins' head if perched like that.

It's stuffed with magnets.

And Ins' had his skeleton replaced with adamantium !

:smalltongue:

EDIT: This hat does exist in reality. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Antoine_bastard_of_burgundy_memling.jpg)

kpenguin
2009-07-18, 07:48 PM
The hat in the painting seems to have some portion of the head in itself.

The hat on Ins seems to have none at all.

kpenguin
2009-07-19, 04:24 AM
Preview of something I'm working on:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/kpenguin222/Future-Imperfect.gif

chriky
2009-07-19, 04:38 AM
A stuffed hat would still fall off pretty easily on Ins' head if perched like that.

Nobody said that the hat never falls off his head maybe it's constantly falling off.

Or he's superglued it to his head.

Keveak
2009-07-19, 04:55 AM
Preview of something I'm working on:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w118/kpenguin222/Future-Imperfect.gif

Cool :smallsmile:

@Mad:maybe another hat would be better in OotS style?

Threeshades
2009-07-19, 11:31 AM
The hat in the painting seems to have some portion of the head in itself.

The hat on Ins seems to have none at all.

if the head of that person is supposed to be anywhere near human facial proportions, it would go up half of the hat's height. But that would also mean that guy has a horribly disfigured skull.


But probably the painter just failed.

Crimmy
2009-07-19, 11:47 AM
Maybe it's just a medusa, or an octopus that got stuck there on his head.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-19, 12:05 PM
I'm not part of Avbaroy (way too busy, not a good time for newbs, and I'm trying to get better at drawing) but I do enjoy reading so I've made a banner.:smallredface:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6942/g2461.png

SinisterPenguin
2009-07-19, 12:31 PM
I'm not part of Avbaroy (way too busy, not a good time for newbs, and I'm trying to get better at drawing) but I do enjoy reading so I've made a banner.:smallredface:

Wait a second...does this mean that we have someone who reads ABR who isn't one of the authors? Like...a fan?!

Woah. :smalleek:

Mad Mask
2009-07-19, 12:32 PM
Wait a second...does this mean that we have someone who reads ABR who isn't one of the authors? Like...a fan?!

Woah. :smalleek:

Most of us were fans before we became authors, actually. :smalltongue:

Keveak
2009-07-19, 12:33 PM
Wait a second...does this mean that we have someone who reads ABR who isn't one of the authors? Like...a fan?!

Woah. :smalleek:

I read 3 threads and the archive before joining so I think it just means she haven't joined yet.

A fanclub would be great though :smalltongue:

SinisterPenguin
2009-07-19, 12:41 PM
Most of us were fans before we became authors, actually. :smalltongue:

Yes, but I've never seem someone actually comment on ABR if they haven't joined. I know I, at least, had only followed ABR for a few days before I decided to join up.

But whatever, maybe I just haven't been here long enough.

chriky
2009-07-19, 01:51 PM
Yes, but I've never seem someone actually comment on ABR if they haven't joined. I know I, at least, had only followed ABR for a few days before I decided to join up.

But whatever, maybe I just haven't been here long enough.

What about troll. He's posted a few random kills but as of yet hasn't actually contributed to the plot.

The Gremlin
2009-07-19, 01:59 PM
What about troll. He's posted a few random kills but as of yet hasn't actually contributed to the plot.

ABR isn't a plot, actually. The plots are just the most successful part. Making random kills means you're a part of ABR. We're all fans, really.

The Blackbird
2009-07-19, 02:19 PM
Wait a second...does this mean that we have someone who reads ABR who isn't one of the authors? Like...a fan?!

Woah. :smalleek:

*Raises hand* Thats me.

chriky
2009-07-19, 02:56 PM
ABR isn't a plot, actually. The plots are just the most successful part. Making random kills means you're a part of ABR. We're all fans, really.

But in sinisters earlier post he said Author so it sounds like he meant plot. And it took troll a long time to post a random kill so there was a long time when he wasn't contributing apart from in discussion.

EmeraldPhoenix
2009-07-19, 04:50 PM
Wait a second...does this mean that we have someone who reads ABR who isn't one of the authors? Like...a fan?!

Woah. :smalleek:

Guilty as charged.

Yeah, I'm an ABR fan. :smallredface:

-skimmer-
2009-07-19, 06:19 PM
Most of us were fans before we became authors, actually. :smalltongue:

I've learned how to draw just because of being fan of ABR. I've actually never tried to draw before:smallsmile:


Also, my computer's working again and I think I can draw something soon:smallcool:

Squark
2009-07-19, 08:19 PM
Wow. No comics for 24 hours, practically...

I'm bored.

Lemming
2009-07-19, 08:58 PM
Wow. No comics for 24 hours, practically...

I'm bored.
Yup. It's been like this lately.

The Gremlin
2009-07-19, 10:40 PM
But in sinisters earlier post he said Author so it sounds like he meant plot. And it took troll a long time to post a random kill so there was a long time when he wasn't contributing apart from in discussion.

Hardly, anybody who draws a comic is an author.
/\ That joke is actually getting old, like the 'we never talk about anything important on the Discussion thread' one. We have actually been making a fair bit of comics, lately (and by 'we' I mean you guys). And we've been talking a lot about the plot. So, all you jokesters, SHUT UP!:smallfurious::smallwink:

Keveak
2009-07-20, 04:23 AM
Wow. No comics for 24 hours, practically...

I'm bored.

I'd say it's the time difference (to me you posted 3:19 AM) and all those on vacation.

kpenguin
2009-07-20, 04:29 AM
I'm afraid I might be responsible for tying MM up a bit...

X2
2009-07-20, 05:20 AM
Okay! I'm back! Sorry for the absence. Some slave traders broke into my home and thrust me on their galley bound for Rome to sold be at auction. I was purchased by a kindly old man who nursed me back to health and almost set me free if the Ceaser didn't spot me and thrust me into the arena with the lions. Luckily the lion was slow and clumsy and I easily escaped.

Or at least thats what my drug induced haze tells me.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 05:37 AM
Okay! I'm back! Sorry for the absence. Some slave traders broke into my home and thrust me on their galley bound for Rome to sold be at auction. I was purchased by a kindly old man who nursed me back to health and almost set me free if the Ceaser didn't spot me and thrust me into the arena with the lions. Luckily the lion was slow and clumsy and I easily escaped.

Or at least thats what my drug induced haze tells me.
What!! please tell me it's a joke :smalleek:

X2
2009-07-20, 05:41 AM
What!! please tell me it's a joke :smalleek:

If you like.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 05:53 AM
If you like.

:smallconfused: I'm not sure what that mean.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-20, 06:11 AM
:smallconfused: I'm not sure what that mean.

He means if you'd prefer to think he was joking, then think he's joking. Otherwise continue worrying.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 06:25 AM
He means if you'd prefer to think he was joking, then think he's joking. Otherwise continue worrying.

Makes no logical sense. Based on that answer I have reached a conclusion...
*runs away screaming*

Seriously this little conversation has ruined all respect and positive opinions about him, nice job breaking it.

X2
2009-07-20, 06:57 AM
Makes no logical sense. Based on that answer I have reached a conclusion...
*runs away screaming*

Seriously this little conversation has ruined all respect and positive opinions about him, nice job breaking it.

I pray that's sarcasm, otherwise I'll never joke around on these forums again. :smalleek:

Yeah, I was joking.

kpenguin
2009-07-20, 06:59 AM
You take things way too seriously, Kev.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 07:19 AM
You take things way too seriously, Kev.

I know, but he did seem serious to me (there was no ":smalltongue:" and he didn't come with a clear answer when I asked)

@Xarty: No sarcasm but it seems my conclusion was wrong, sorry. Since the part that would make me lose respect is gone then I respect you again (as much as before, whether or not that's a good thing is irrelevant:smalltongue:) I just couldn't find any signs of you joking.

Sorry:smallfrown:

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 07:21 AM
Don't do drugs.

That's always valid. :smallsmile:

Except when you go to your doctor. Or have a headache. Then you should do drugs.
__________________
Keveak, have you tied all loose ends with your FFF characters ? Are they ready to start FI ?
-

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-20, 07:29 AM
Don't do drugs.

That's always valid. :smallsmile:

Except when you go to your doctor. Or have a headache. Then you should do drugs.

They say "Winners don't do drugs."

Except Mario

:smalltongue:

Keveak
2009-07-20, 07:37 AM
Don't do drugs.

That's always valid. :smallsmile:

Except when you go to your doctor. Or have a headache. Then you should do drugs.
__________________
Keveak, have you tied all loose ends with your FFF characters ? Are they ready to start FI ?
-

I agree (exept for the headache thing I don't take those no matter what)

___________________
Not entirely I will make a short comic with Keveak leaving and explaining why he won't come for at least a decade (he doesn't leave Goldunscael for 14 years) then everything will be fine.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-20, 07:42 AM
Except Mario :smalltongue:

Mario doesn't do drugs. The mushrooms are from "Alice In Wonderland". :smallannoyed:

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-20, 07:53 AM
Mario doesn't do drugs. The mushrooms are from "Alice In Wonderland". :smallannoyed:

So he does indeed ingest mushrooms which produce what many would consider "psychadelic" effects.

So as far as I'm concerned at least, Mario is on shrooms.

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 07:53 AM
I'm afraid I might be responsible for tying MM up a bit...

Why hasnt anyone made a bondage joke about this?


Mario doesn't do drugs. The mushrooms are from "Alice In Wonderland".
Oh and that's not a major drug induced hallucination? A mad hatter and a bunny with giant head as well as a lethargic mouse are having tea, celebrating the fact that it is not their birthday, while a grinning cat keeps appearing and disappearing out of and into thin air. A set of cards is playing golf with hedgehogs and flamingos. And let's not start about the smoking caterpillar and the scary exploding baby


So he does indeed ingest mushrooms which produce what many would consider "psychadelic" effects.

So as far as I'm concerned at least, Mario is on shrooms.
As well as extacy, which makes him see flashing colors and makes him think hes unstoppable. And lets not forget that plant he eats only to pee fire afterwards. And there are various others.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-20, 07:59 AM
I'm not talking to you all, anymore. :smallsigh:

Not because I'm some kind of stupid fan who hates it when you insult whatever he likes, but because saying "Mario is on drugs" is such an easy joke to make. Very lazy. Shame on you. Any respect for you I had is now gone.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 08:00 AM
Why hasnt anyone made a bondage joke about this?


Oh and that's not a major drug induced hallucination? A mad hatter and a bunny with giant head as well as a lethargic mouse are having tea, celebrating the fact that it is not their birthday, while a grinning cat keeps appearing and disappearing out of and into thin air. A set of cards is playing golf with hedgehogs and flamingos. And let's not start about the smoking caterpillar and the scary exploding baby


As well as extacy, which makes him see flashing colors and makes him think hes unstoppable. And lets not forget that plant he eats only to pee fire afterwards. And there are various others.

"Alice in wonderland" was a dream from the start, so she can't have used drugs since it didn't even happen.

In Mario's world the effects of the mushrooms and the stars are REAL thus there isn't any hallucinations which mean that it aint drugs (I think it's magic or something) else eating non-poisonous mushrooms in real life would also be using drugs.

EDIT:

@Q:That's my line :smalltongue:

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 08:02 AM
"Alice in wonderland" was a dream from the start, so she can't have used drugs since it didn't even happen.

In Mario's world the effects of the mushrooms and the stars are REAL thus there isn't any hallucinations which mean that it aint drugs (I think it's magic or something) else eating non-poisonous mushrooms in real life would also be using drugs.

EDIT:

@Q:That's my line :smalltongue:

Mental retardation from alcohol also is real and still its a drug.

T-O-E
2009-07-20, 08:33 AM
Not because I'm some kind of stupid fan who hates it when you insult whatever he likes, but because saying "Mario is on drugs" is such an easy joke to make. Very lazy. Shame on you. Any respect for you I had is now gone.

Terrible gaming webcomics (CAD, VGcats, so many others) have been milking that awful and obvious joke for years.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 08:36 AM
Mental retardation from alcohol also is real and still its a drug.

You don't get affected that much by alcohol unless you drink a lot of it, thus it at least can't really be seen as dangerous enough to be classified as the same kind of drug as what normally is refered to as drugs, besides I'm against alcohol too so I don't see how one wrong makes another right.

What is the it in "still its a drug"? If it's Mario's mushrooms then shouldn't there be bad effects and addiction too?

Falgorn
2009-07-20, 08:39 AM
Someone has a birthday today! :smallwink:

Emperor Ing
2009-07-20, 08:44 AM
Someone has a birthday today! :smallwink:

Okay. Yah, happy birthday Falg. >:]

Keveak
2009-07-20, 08:47 AM
Someone has a birthday today! :smallwink:

A lot of people has... Oh you mean you has!! Well happy birthday *celebrates*

Ninja Chocobo
2009-07-20, 08:47 AM
Did somebody say alcohol?
*drinks said*

Keveak
2009-07-20, 08:49 AM
Did somebody say alcohol?
*drinks said*

Alcohol is bad for you, drink juice, it's delicious.

Falgorn
2009-07-20, 08:51 AM
Why do you people think it's my birthday? I didn't say that.
Mindreaders....

chriky
2009-07-20, 08:51 AM
They say "Winners don't do drugs."

Except Mario

:smalltongue:

I've never seen Mario win when I'm playing It's normally Luigi or Dry bones depending on The game. But even games with only Mario as a playable character he still manages to fail.

Also- Happy birthday Falgorn. :smallbiggrin:

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 09:01 AM
You don't get affected that much by alcohol unless you drink a lot of it, thus it at least can't really be seen as dangerous enough to be classified as the same kind of drug as what normally is refered to as drugs, besides I'm against alcohol too so I don't see how one wrong makes another right.

What is the it in "still its a drug"? If it's Mario's mushrooms then shouldn't there be bad effects and addiction too?

What does being less dangerous have to do with anything? Drugs are drugs no matter how dangerous or addictive they are.

And there are bad effects. As long as mario isnt tripping on at least one of them, he's extremely fragile and already dies when touching a turtle the wrong way. So he's constantly looking for the next one to feel safer.

Ninja Chocobo
2009-07-20, 09:04 AM
Alcohol is bad for you, drink juice, it's delicious.

Juice isn't a substitute for prescription-only medication!
If 'tweren't for it, I'd be spending upwards of five hours each night getting to sleep. Bloody insomnia; we hates it, preciousssss. (Kev, that last bit's a reference to Gollum, from the Lord of the Rings.)

Keveak
2009-07-20, 09:07 AM
What does being less dangerous have to do with anything? Drugs are drugs no matter how dangerous or addictive they are.

And there are bad effects. As long as mario isnt tripping on at least one of them, he's extremely fragile and already dies when touching a turtle the wrong way. So he's constantly looking for the next one to feel safer.

I actually got no idea what the defination of "drugs" is so I can't really argue, but alcohol is a far lesser problem than the other stuff don't you think? (though it's still bad DON'T DRINK IT!)

I think that's because the turtles are weird not Mario, to my knowledge the mushrooms and stars have some magical effect when he picks them up and Mario's (to us) weakness has nothing to do with it.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-20, 09:11 AM
Fine fine, winners don't do drugs.

Except Shane Carpenter from Haze.

:smalltongue:

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 09:13 AM
Fine fine, winners don't do drugs.

Except Shane Carpenter from Haze.

:smalltongue:

As well as the Vault Dweller, the Chosen One and the Lone Wanderer


I actually got no idea what the defination of "drugs" is so I can't really argue, but alcohol is a far lesser problem than the other stuff don't you think? (though it's still bad DON'T DRINK IT!)
Yes but that's not the point.


I think that's because the turtles are weird not Mario, to my knowledge the mushrooms and stars have some magical effect when he picks them up and Mario's (to us) weakness has nothing to do with it.

Isnt that what drugs make you think too?
youre taking it too seriously

Falgorn
2009-07-20, 09:14 AM
Michael Phelps did drugs.
I think.

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 09:16 AM
Michael Phelps did drugs.
I think.

Michael Phelps just had freakishly long arms.

Emperor Ing
2009-07-20, 09:18 AM
Michael Phelps did drugs.
I think.

I believe he was suspended due to using Pot. That, and he eats 15000-ish calories a day to maintain his normal weight.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 09:24 AM
Isnt that what drugs make you think too?
youre taking it too seriously

I have no idea, next topic please this one is weird.

I didn't take it serious

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 10:19 AM
How well know is Igon Minoblendy ? :smallconfused:

@The Q: Since the Citadel is currently moving, I suggest you replace the first panel of your comic with Q sleeping inside the citadel, unless of course you want to fall on the ground.

Sorry if I'm nit-picky. :smalltongue:

EDIT: And your "plot moving" comment doesn't make sense now, since we're making a lot more plot-advancing comics than ever before.

At least you, Squark and me do.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-20, 10:24 AM
@The Q: Since the Citadel is currently moving, I suggest you replace the first panel of your comic with Q sleeping inside the citadel, unless of course you want to fall on the ground.

Sorry if I'm nit-picky. :smalltongue:

EDIT: And your "plot moving" comment doesn't make sense now, since we're making a lot more plot-advancing comics than ever before.

I didn't see the comic which shows the Citadel moving. Can you link it to me? :smallconfused:

And I know the plot is moving. It's just not moving very fast. Q is insulting it's slowness. :smalltongue:

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 10:25 AM
FFF
http://i31.tinypic.com/xglbmc.png
So is he shocked because all those Qs died, or because he just lost so much power?

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-20, 10:27 AM
So is he shocked because all those Qs died, or because he just lost so much power?

Both. Why? :smallconfused:

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 10:28 AM
Both. Why? :smallconfused:

Just makin' sure.

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 10:31 AM
I didn't see the comic which shows the Citadel moving. Can you link it to me? :smallconfused:

Huh, it seems I didn't show it moving in this comic (http://www.kinogo.com/victor/fff43.png). :smallredface:

But it was heavily implied that it would be. :smalltongue:


And I know the plot is moving. It's just not moving very fast. Q is insulting it's slowness. :smalltongue:

Walking is still faster than crawling. :smallwink:

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-20, 10:35 AM
Huh, it seems I didn't show it moving in this comic (http://www.kinogo.com/victor/fff43.png). :smallredface:

But it was heavily implied that it would be. :smalltongue:

...Wow. How did I miss that? :smalleek:

Oh well. I guess Q can sleep on a flying house. :smalltongue:

Threeshades
2009-07-20, 10:39 AM
...Wow. How did I miss that? :smalleek:

Oh well. I guess Q can sleep on a flying house. :smalltongue:

you missed it because MM announced two updates by editing his last post in order to prevent multiple posting. Which unfortunately also had the drawback of not highlighting the thread for an update.

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 10:48 AM
you missed it because MM announced two updates by editing his last post in order to prevent multiple posting. Which unfortunately also had the drawback of not highlighting the thread for an update.

No, I actually deleted my posts and copied the contents into another one.

The Gremlin
2009-07-20, 11:07 AM
"Alice in wonderland" was a dream from the start, so she can't have used drugs since it didn't even happen.

Um, no it wasn't. It was never proven it was a dream. You've been watching the movie.

Fawkes
2009-07-20, 11:22 AM
Um, no it wasn't. It was never proven it was a dream. You've been watching the movie.

Also, the caterpillar is totally smoking a hookah.

Keveak
2009-07-20, 11:42 AM
Um, no it wasn't. It was never proven it was a dream. You've been watching the movie.

Hey I got no idea where to get that book, ifI did then I'd read it but I don't. Still it can hardly be seen as drugs, more like poison.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-20, 02:20 PM
How well know is Igon Minoblendy ? :smallconfused:

People who know their history from the Age of Dragons have probably heard of him as leader of the Exersus Resistance, so he generally uses Lyinginbedmon to avoid detection more. Those who only know him from history think he died following the Battle of the Palace.

As for the world at large, only folks in Exersus and the significantly high-ups of government know he's still doing the rounds of peaceful civilisation, but virtually no-one outside of Exersus knows the full significance of him.

In short, unless you're a political big-wig or a collaborator, you're kinda unlikely to know him.

Fawkes
2009-07-20, 03:42 PM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/xbadvandetta/alice_in_wonderland-6.jpg
Nothing suspicious here, folks.

BRC
2009-07-20, 03:49 PM
People who know their history from the Age of Dragons have probably heard of him as leader of the Exersus Resistance, so he generally uses Lyinginbedmon to avoid detection more. Those who only know him from history think he died following the Battle of the Palace.

As for the world at large, only folks in Exersus and the significantly high-ups of government know he's still doing the rounds of peaceful civilisation, but virtually no-one outside of Exersus knows the full significance of him.

In short, unless you're a political big-wig or a collaborator, you're kinda unlikely to know him.
Alright, so in this case, how should They spin Igon's involvement. I see two options.
1) They refer to him as "Lyinginbedmon", an insane mage who opposes the UNA because he can't stand the idea of the world in a peaceful union.
Or
2) They identify him as "Igon Minoblendy", who has spent so long fighting that he knows nothing else, and is striking out against the UNA on pure reflex, or because he mistakenly believes it to be evil.


Personally, I'm going for the first one.

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 03:54 PM
Alright, so in this case, how should They spin Igon's involvement. I see two options.
1) They refer to him as "Lyinginbedmon", an insane mage who opposes the UNA because he can't stand the idea of the world in a peaceful union.
Or
2) They identify him as "Igon Minoblendy", who has spent so long fighting that he knows nothing else, and is striking out against the UNA on pure reflex, or because he mistakenly believes it to be evil.


Personally, I'm going for the first one.

Could Ins identify himself as the "real" Igon Minoblendy that was rescued and "transformed" by the Sovices at the Battle of the Palace, while Lyinginbedmon is just a deluded fool that thinks he's a 600 years old wizard ?

Keris
2009-07-20, 03:54 PM
Or
3) 4) They refer to him as "A magus calling himself 'Igon Minoblendy', whom you might remember from your history textbooks. Little is known about him, although it has been revealed that he also operates under the name 'Lyinginbedmon'."


Could Ins identify himself as the "real" Igon Minoblendy that was rescued and "transformed" by the Sovices at the Battle of the Palace, while Lyinginbedmon is just a deluded fool that thinks he's a 600 years old wizard ?
The only flaw I can see is that the leader of the known world is claiming to be a 600 year old historical figure. Not sure how that would work out, I mean, that's the main point in the "ALF is clearly insane!" argument.

Nameless
2009-07-20, 04:01 PM
Gaaahhhh! Stupid Trojan Virus! *smashes computer*

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 04:05 PM
The only flaw I can see is that the leader of the known world is claiming to be a 600 year old historical figure. Not sure how that would work out, I mean, that's the main point in the "ALF is clearly insane!" argument.

How would he explain the similarity between the historical Igon Minoblendy, the insane Lyinginbedmon and himself ?

Keris
2009-07-20, 04:08 PM
How would he explain the similarity between the historical Igon Minoblendy, the insane Lyinginbedmon and himself ?

What similarity? That they're all spellcasters with grey hair?


Gaaahhhh! Stupid Trojan Virus! *smashes computer*

Get a decent anti-virus. Or a trial version of one.

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 04:10 PM
What similarity? That they're all spellcasters with grey hair?

They look like (and are) identical clones of each other, someone must have noticed the similarity.

@Nameless: If you had a Mac, you wouldn't have any pesky virus.

What does the Trojan virus do, anyway ? *googles*

Ack, pretty nasty. :smallyuk:

kpenguin
2009-07-20, 04:13 PM
Lyingbedmon is and never was Igon Minoblendy. He just portrayed him in a failed television sitcom, "The Life and Times of Igon Minoblendy". Even though the show was cancelled before it even aired, the actor has refused to break character, possibly out of insanity.

BRC
2009-07-20, 04:23 PM
The idea of a powerful mage living 600 years is not that unbelievable considering some of the other stuff in Avbaroy. Neither is the idea of somebody changing his appearance with magic. If Ins wanted to claim that he was Igon Minoblendy, which is technically true, it would be his word against Lyings. And his word is backed up by Them.

Think about it, Igon, as leader of the Exersus resistance, would be considered a historical hero. The UNA has great PR work, and people believe what they want to believe. Which do you want to believe, that the historical hero and resistance leader, Igon Minoblendy, is currently leading the organization that has united the world, or that he is fighting to bring down that organization.

Keris
2009-07-20, 04:25 PM
They look like (and are) identical clones of each other, someone must have noticed the similarity.
They're stick figures, they'll look similar no matter what. No-one comments that every third guard is identical.
In universe, Ins has a personal stylist, and etc., while Lying is stuck in a cave with a box of scraps, plus I think Lying likely has access to illusionary spells. The UNA could even claim "The insurgent calling himself 'Igon Minoblendy' has taken the appearance of the Chairman of the UNA, Insecesacinsectel, in an obvious attempt to undermine government support", or something to that effect.


@Nameless: If you had a Mac, you wouldn't have any pesky virus.:

He might. There are Mac viruses out there, they're just not as common as ones for Macs. And he could also reduce the chances by using Linux, which would be far cheaper than buying a Mac.

Nameless
2009-07-20, 04:30 PM
Get a decent anti-virus. Or a trial version of one.

I'm trying too, but the Trojan is stopping me from downloading one.
My Norton was expired.

@Q: No. Just... No

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 04:31 PM
They're stick figures, they'll look similar no matter what. No-one comments that every third guard is identical.
In universe, Ins has a personal stylist, and etc., while Lying is stuck in a cave with a box of scraps, plus I think Lying likely has access to illusionary spells. The UNA could even claim "The insurgent calling himself 'Igon Minoblendy' has taken the appearance of the Chairman of the UNA, Insecesacinsectel, in an obvious attempt to undermine government support", or something to that effect.

That would work if there are no pictures (paintings or magical photos) of the 11th century Igon Minoblendy in the history books.

Are there ?

Also, in-universe, Avbaroy is not really a stick figure world. Or else Darklord Bright and Vulion's comics would be non-canon. :smalltongue:


He might. There are Mac viruses out there, they're just not as common as ones for Windows.

That's an understatement. Mac virus are extremely rare.


And he could also reduce the chances by using Linux, which would be far cheaper than buying a Mac.

Of course.

Nameless
2009-07-20, 04:32 PM
That's an understatement. Mac virus are extremely rare.

That's because no one's bothered making any for Mac. :smalltongue:

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 04:39 PM
That's because no one's bothered making any for Mac. :smalltongue:

Also they have incredible security systems.

Nameless
2009-07-20, 04:42 PM
Also they have incredible security systems.

Of course they do, they have nothing to secure themselves against. :smalltongue:

Szilard
2009-07-20, 04:43 PM
I think someone made a clever analogy a while ago, "The mac isn't and impenetrable fortress, just one no one has bothered to attack."

Keris
2009-07-20, 04:46 PM
I'm trying too, but the Trojan is stopping me from downloading one.
My Norton was expired.
Try using another computer to install an antivirus to a flash drive, then connect it to your computer and run it from there. Or just copy the installer across, but the virus might block it.


@Q: No. Just... No
What's he got to do with anything? :smallconfused:


That would work if there are no pictures (paintings or magical photos) of the 11th century Igon Minoblendy in the history books.
Indeed, although even if there were, I suspect there wouldn't be many now. Most of them would be lost, or destroyed over the centuries.


Also, in-universe, Avbaroy is not really a stick figure world. Or else Darklord Bright and Vulion's comics would be non-canon. :smalltongue:.
As I understand, in-universe Avbaroy is exactly as depicted in each canon comic. It's somewhat mutable, and changes in appearance every five minutes, on average. It also lacks a fourth wall, but the characters tend to ignore that most of the time.

Lyinginbedmon
2009-07-20, 04:47 PM
If you consider it in terms of resources, Mac has all the poets and the artists, Windows has the politicians, the labourers, and basically everything else that holds up society.

I know who I'd attack if I wanted to cause some anarchy. :smalltongue:

Nameless
2009-07-20, 04:49 PM
Try using another computer to install an antivirus to a flash drive, then connect it to your computer and run it from there. Or just copy the installer across, but the virus might block it.


I tried downloading the installer, and that worked. But it wants me to remove Norton from my computer before I can install it properly, unfortunately the Trojan is stopping me from accessing Norton.
So I tried downloading the full version onto a CD and then uploading it via that, but the Trojan is stopping my computer from reading the CD.


If you consider it in terms of resources, Mac has all the poets and the artists, Windows has the politicians, the labourers, and basically everything else that holds up society.

I know who I'd attack if I wanted to cause some anarchy. :smalltongue:

You would be surprised how much art has held and identified empires, societies and religions. :smalltongue:

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 04:51 PM
As I understand, in-universe Avbaroy is exactly as depicted in each canon comic. It's somewhat mutable, and changes in appearance every five minutes, on average. It also lacks a fourth wall, but the characters tend to ignore that most of the time.

Wouldn't it better if historically speaking, people acted (more-or-less) like real people. :smallconfused:

So if we were to novelise Fat Fish Fury, Q wouldn't say he is in a stick figure comic.

memnarch
2009-07-20, 04:53 PM
Never use Norton products. You need to download a special program just to remove it (http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039), plus there are much better programs out there for free.

Also, Windows is much better at playing games. :smallwink:

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 04:57 PM
That's just because everybody makes the games for Windows. :smalltongue:

Nameless
2009-07-20, 04:59 PM
Never use Norton products. You need to download a special program just to remove it (http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039), plus there are much better programs out there for free.

Also, Windows is much better at playing games. :smallwink:

I only used it because it was free when i got the computer. :smalltongue:

memnarch
2009-07-20, 05:00 PM
I only used it because it was free when i got the computer. :smalltongue:
Can't argue with that. :smalltongue:

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-07-20, 05:00 PM
@Nameless

Just get Avg and while you're at it, Spybot.

Problem solved.

Nameless
2009-07-20, 05:02 PM
@Nameless

Just get Avg and while you're at it, Spybot.

Problem solved.

That's exactly what I've been trying to do, but the Trojan isn't making it easy.

EDIT: Also, Memnarch, the link isn't working. :smallfrown:

memnarch
2009-07-20, 05:11 PM
Hm, should be. Try going through Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=norton+removal+tool).

Ninja Chocobo
2009-07-20, 05:22 PM
@Nameless: If you had a Mac, you wouldn't have any pesky virus.

'Course he would.
It's called Mac OS.

Also for free anti-virus I'm pretty sure Avast! is the best available.

Nameless
2009-07-20, 05:28 PM
Hm, should be. Try going through Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=norton+removal+tool).

Well, I’ve installed it. But the Trojan won’t let me open it up. :smallfurious:

Squark
2009-07-20, 05:36 PM
Hmm...


How long have you had this Trojan?


Because you could try reverting to a backup.


Unfortunately, I don't remember what that entails. It was a while ago when my Dad did that with our old computer.

Although it didn't help, because the problem was the stupid CD-ROM drive.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-20, 05:44 PM
@Q: No. Just... No

No just no what? :smallconfused::smallannoyed:

memnarch
2009-07-20, 05:58 PM
Well, I’ve installed it. But the Trojan won’t let me open it up. :smallfurious:

You tried running the computer in safe mode?

Nameless
2009-07-20, 06:19 PM
You tried running the computer in safe mode?

Actually, it's working now, but it's asking for an access key or something.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-20, 06:23 PM
Nameless, don't say things like "No. Just...no" if you aren't going to explain yourself afterwards. I have no idea what it was that was so bad! Without context this is just annoying. :smallannoyed:

I would say "Fail" but then I'd sound like Rand. :smalltongue:

Szilard
2009-07-20, 06:25 PM
Nameless, don't say things like "No. Just...no" if you aren't going to explain yourself afterwards. I have no idea what it was that was so bad! Without context this is just annoying. :smallannoyed:

I would say "Fail" but then I'd sound like Rand. :smalltongue:

Well, nameless was talking about trojans, which is also a brand of condoms... and you know nameless.:smalltongue:

Nameless
2009-07-20, 06:45 PM
Sorry Q, I meant Mad Mask, not you. :smalltongue:

kpenguin
2009-07-20, 07:02 PM
No one likes my actor theory? :smallfrown:

DoomITP
2009-07-20, 07:09 PM
I thought it was cool. :smallsmile:

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 07:13 PM
Sorry Q, I meant Mad Mask, not you. :smalltongue:

Care to elaborate on your "no" ?

Lemming
2009-07-20, 08:32 PM
...What's up with your new avatar, MM? :smallconfused:
It looks like an angelic version of Sherlock Holmes has just gotten out of the shower. :smalltongue:

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-07-20, 08:48 PM
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b2/DOnotWANTcard.gif
Somebody give him a towel.

Or better yet a pair of pants. Is there a way to stop viewing avatars other then blocking all images? :smallconfused:

T-O-E
2009-07-20, 08:54 PM
What. The. Hell.

Emperor Ing
2009-07-20, 08:56 PM
What. The. Hell.

Seriously, don't ask. Some questions are best left unanswered

Tiffanie Lirle
2009-07-20, 08:58 PM
Is there a way to stop viewing avatars other then blocking all images? :smallconfused:
Hah, awesome. There is.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3530/awsomeo.png
Somebody tell me when he's stopped using that avy, please. :/

Ninja Chocobo
2009-07-20, 09:03 PM
Or better yet a pair of pants. Is there a way to stop viewing avatars other then blocking all images? :smallconfused:

If you're running Firefox the extension AdBlock Plus can block specific images. And ads, too, into the bargain.

Mad Mask
2009-07-20, 09:19 PM
Somebody tell me when he's stopped using that avy, please. :/

I've changed it, alright. :smallannoyed:

Lemming
2009-07-20, 09:27 PM
I've changed it, alright. :smallannoyed:
Now it's just sherlock post-shower. :smalltongue:

Fawkes
2009-07-20, 09:46 PM
What did it use to look like?

The Gremlin
2009-07-20, 11:48 PM
Linux is actually pretty safe against viruses. Admittedly, that's partially because nobody bothers with a Linux virus, but also because tons of people help out with free anti-viruses. Yay Open Source! :smallcool:

Threeshades
2009-07-21, 12:50 AM
Everyones being paranoid about viruses. Any halfway responsible internet user can make do pretty without any automatic virus safety beyond the standard windows firewall. Its extremely rare my scanners pick up anything ever. And Im well equipped actually, with antiVir and adAware

Keveak
2009-07-21, 02:01 AM
I've changed it, alright. :smallannoyed:

Get. A. Towel.

:smallannoyed:

please.

Ninja Chocobo
2009-07-21, 02:03 AM
Get. A. Towel.

:smallannoyed:

please.

Dude's got a towel.
He just ain't using it.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 02:06 AM
Dude's got a towel.
He just ain't using it.

He. Should.

And that's what I meant (that the avatar should wear the towel), you don't need to be a genius to know that.

Keris
2009-07-21, 03:47 AM
What did it use to look like?
I assume it used to be:
http://www.kinogo.com/victor/maskgreek.png

He. Should.
You don't need to wear the towel to be a hoopy frood, you just need to know where it is.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 05:52 AM
I assume it used to be:
Censored

You don't need to wear the towel to be a hoopy frood, you just need to know where it is.

Gah! The horror! It's kinda creepy! (though I've seen far more horrifying stuff it's still bad)

A Hoo-Whatnow?

Keris
2009-07-21, 06:02 AM
Gah! The horror! It's kinda creepy! (though I've seen far more horrifying stuff it's still bad)
Indeed. A half naked stick figure is truly shocking. No individual should ever see the skin of another individual. Reproduction is to be done while blindfolded.


A Hoo-Whatnow?

Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy reference. It comes from the guide entry on towels:

A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value. You can wrap it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan Beta; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded beaches of Santraginus V, inhaling the heady sea vapors; you can sleep under it beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert world of Kakrafoon; use it to sail a miniraft down the slow heavy River Moth; wet it for use in hand-to-hand-combat; wrap it round your head to ward off noxious fumes or avoid the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (such a mind-boggingly stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you); you can wave your towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself off with it if it still seems to be clean enough.

More importantly, a towel has immense psychological value. For some reason, if a strag (strag: nonhitchhiker) discovers that a hitchhiker has his towel with him, he will automatically assume that he is also in possession of a toothbrush, washcloth, soap, tin of biscuits, flask, compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet-weather gear, space suit etc., etc. Furthermore, the strag will then happily lend the hitchhiker any of these or a dozen other items that the hitchhiker might accidentally have "lost". What the strag will think is that any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows where his towel is, is clearly a man to be reckoned with.

Hence a phrase that has passed into hitchhiking slang, as in "Hey, you sass that hoopy Ford Prefect? There's a frood who really knows where his towel is." (Sass: know, be aware of, meet, have sex with; hoopy: really together guy; frood: really amazingly together guy.)

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 06:17 AM
yyeeeaah, then again censorship can be greatly appreciated. At least get a black box.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 06:17 AM
Indeed. A half naked stick figure is truly shocking. No individual should ever see the skin of another individual. Reproduction is to be done while blindfolded.



Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy reference. It comes from the guide entry on towels:

I think the explanation given to Grace in El Goonish Shive explain it pretty well.

We also only get the movie of Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (crappy useless mini country) So I didn't know.

kpenguin
2009-07-21, 06:24 AM
I'm not very bothered by MM's avvie, although I am wondering why he chose such a... shocking picture to use. Surely he would have anticipated the negative response.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 06:28 AM
I'm not very bothered by MM's avvie, although I am wondering why he chose such a... shocking picture to use. Surely he would have anticipated the negative response.

Or maybe you overestimate what a twelve year old know about that kinda stuff.

kpenguin
2009-07-21, 06:31 AM
I happen to think very highly of MM's intelligence and judgement... which is more than I can say for a certain senior citizen frequenting this thread.:smallamused:

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 06:37 AM
myeh, after this episode with his avvy, i'm willing to admit my ability to take him seriously is...shaken.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 06:39 AM
I happen to think very highly of MM's intelligence and judgement... which is more than I can say for a certain senior citizen frequenting this thread.:smallamused:

Still.. Wouldn't it be a bit weird if he knew about the reasons for it being shocking, he's a kid after all.

And let's change topic, this one's getting weird.

kpenguin
2009-07-21, 06:39 AM
Hmm... perhaps this should be a special avatar week, Naked Week or something like that...

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 06:44 AM
It's just a stick figure, damn it ! Imagine if you encountered Classical Greek sculptures... You'll probably say "Gah, my eyes !".

Damned cultural taboos... :smallannoyed:

Keris
2009-07-21, 06:52 AM
Hmm... perhaps this should be a special avatar week, Naked Week or something like that...
Indurain would probably back it, and possibly Glug, but you might encounter some adverse reactions from the posters at large.


It's just a stick figure, damn it ! Imagine if you encountered Classical Greek sculptures... You'll probably say "Gah, my eyes !".

Well, sculptures are usually classified as "art", while a stick figure usually isn't.


Damned cultural taboos... :smallannoyed:
You have no nudity taboo in Canada?

Keveak
2009-07-21, 06:54 AM
It's just a stick figure, damn it ! Imagine if you encountered Classical Greek sculptures... You'll probably say "Gah, my eyes !".

Damned cultural taboos... :smallannoyed:

Of course I would.


Read This (http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-10-12) and I think you'll understand why people react to nudity like that, or not.

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-21, 07:01 AM
You have no nudity taboo in Canada?

Nope. :smallcool:

*walks outside without clothes*

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 07:03 AM
You have no nudity taboo in Canada?

Yes we do. But that doesn't mean I agree with them completely.

Now, I don't think we should all go naked outside, but the first reaction a person should have to see a person or the drawing of one naked, in my opinion, is not "Argh, my eyes !"

I'm also against the taboo that says you shouldn't eat insects. It's a healthy, even better source of nutrition than "normal" meats !

Now let's talk about something else, the thread's already derived too far.

Are all loose ends except the Alphantican-Tajiran War finished ?

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 07:04 AM
It's just a stick figure, damn it ! Imagine if you encountered Classical Greek sculptures... You'll probably say "Gah, my eyes !".

Damned cultural taboos... :smallannoyed:

its common knowledge the original greek olympics were done totally naked. still, this is like 3000 years* in the future. We don't do that anymore.
*somewhere in that general area

Keveak
2009-07-21, 07:12 AM
its common knowledge the original greek olympics were done totally naked. still, this is like 3000 years* in the future. We don't do that anymore.
*somewhere in that general area

I agree, just because some old weirdoes walked nude around don't mean we should.

@Mad: You can't change that taboo and when you get into puberty you'll understand better (read the comic I linked to it explains it pretty well) and eating insects while indeed provide many proteins also involves a lot of risks for diseases.

Keris
2009-07-21, 07:17 AM
Non-FFF stuff relegated to da spoiler:


Of course I would.
You'd recoil from Michaelangelo's David, one of the most famous sculptures in the world?


Read This (http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2005-10-12) and I think you'll understand why people react to nudity like that, or not.
No offence to Dan Shive, but I don't think he's managed to properly summarise the reasons behind the nudity taboo that has been prevalent in the past few centuries, but was far less distinct prior to then.


*walks outside without clothes*
Isn't it cold out there? According to my limited knowledge of geography, Canada is colder than the UK. You don't have the gulf stream.


its common knowledge the original greek olympics were done totally naked. still, this is like 3000 years* in the future. We don't do that anymore.
*somewhere in that general area
Apart from the lower temperatures in non-equatorial regions, why not?


I'm also against the taboo that says you shouldn't eat insects. It's a healthy, even better source of nutrition than "normal" meats !
As both an outspoken hypocrite, I'm against a lot of taboos. Cannibalism is one, bug eating and nudity are others. Of course, I'm a vegetarian living in a country notorious for poor weather conditions.


I agree, just because some old weirdoes walked nude around don't mean we should.
Just because your parents walk around clothed doesn't mean you should.


And eating insects while indeed provide many proteins also involves a lot of risks for diseases.
Only around as much risk as eating any other food.


Are all loose ends except the Alphantican-Tajiran War finished ?

I've got a couple dangling, but I should be able to tie them up easily. I could even canonify Squark's last comic when I do so, if he agrees. It wouldn't be Ins though.

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 07:23 AM
that's besides the point. Keris, nothing you can say or do can change our idea that MM's avatar needs to be changed.

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 07:25 AM
that's besides the point. Keris, nothing you can say or do can change our idea that MM's avatar needs to be changed.

It's for Greek Week. I'll change it when it's finished.

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 07:27 AM
It's for Greek Week. I'll change it when it's finished.

let me put this into words you can understand: Censorship plz k thx lol

Keris
2009-07-21, 07:27 AM
that's besides the point. Keris, nothing you can say or do can change our idea that MM's avatar needs to be changed.
That depends on what the point is. I'm not too clear on that, personally. And nothing you can say or do can change our idea that MM's avatar is fine.

Also, I've just realised that this was possibly a bad choice of wording in my previous post:

I've got a couple dangling, but I should be able to tie them up easily.

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 07:30 AM
let me put this into words you can understand: Censorship plz k thx lol

It's already censored. Do you see the genitals ? No.

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 07:31 AM
I've got a couple dangling, but I should be able to tie them up easily.

:smalleek: oh wow, I didn't know you were into that sort of thing. :smallamused:

Still, I dunno about you, but I don't go onto GitP for pr0n.

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 07:39 AM
:smalleek: oh wow, I didn't know you were into that sort of thing. :smallamused:

Still, I dunno about you, but I don't go onto GitP for pr0n.

Me neither.

Nudity ≠ porn.

I presume everybody else will be ready for FI when the Battle of Alphantican ends ?

Green-Shirt Q
2009-07-21, 07:52 AM
Isn't it cold out there? According to my limited knowledge of geography, Canada is colder than the UK. You don't have the gulf stream.


Yes, but we do have this thing, this season, called "Summer". An annual time of the year where the weather gets really hot. This takes place from June to late Augest, if I remember correctly. Currently it is "Summer" in Canada.

And no, just for the record, we do not live if Igloos. :smalltongue:

BRC
2009-07-21, 07:54 AM
Yes, but we do have this thing, this season, called "Summer". An annual time of the year where the weather gets really hot. This takes place from June to late Augest, if I remember correctly. Currently it is "Summer" in Canada.

And no, just for the record, we do not live if Igloos. :smalltongue:
You Don't? You mean Canada is not a perpetual winter wasteland where people ride dogsleds to work and go yeti hunting on the weekends?


...This is an entierly new concept for me.

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 07:56 AM
You Don't? You mean Canada is not a perpetual winter wasteland where people ride dogsleds to work and go yeti hunting on the weekends?


...This is an entierly new concept for me.

When I lived in France-occupied territories, people really thought Montréal was an underground city.

Keris
2009-07-21, 07:57 AM
Yes, but we do have this thing, this season, called "Summer". An annual time of the year where the weather gets really hot. This takes place from June to late Augest, if I remember correctly. Currently it is "Summer" in Canada.
Accursed 23° axial tilt! You have foiled me for the last time...


And no, just for the record, we do not live if Igloos. :smalltongue:
You should. They're awesome.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 08:00 AM
:smallbiggrin:



You'd recoil from Michaelangelo's David, one of the most famous sculptures in the world?


No offence to Dan Shive, but I don't think he's managed to properly summarise the reasons behind the nudity taboo that has been prevalent in the past few centuries, but was far less distinct prior to then.


Isn't it cold out there? According to my limited knowledge of geography, Canada is colder than the UK. You don't have the gulf stream.


Apart from the lower temperatures in non-equatorial regions, why not?


As both an outspoken hypocrite, I'm against a lot of taboos. Cannibalism is one, bug eating and nudity are others. Of course, I'm a vegetarian living in a country notorious for poor weather conditions.


Just because your parents walk around clothed doesn't mean you should.


Only around as much risk as eating any other food.

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1. I don't see what so great about that statue. 2. It still summarise why most people are against nudity now, we are too used to clothes. 3. People bathe nude in the midst of winter over here (weirdoes). 4. Because most people and almost all religions get offended if you show public nudity on international sports channels. :smalltongue:. 5. I personally is against cannibalism because (among other reasons) it too easily results in murder, I think bugs are disgusting and clothes are warm and fun:smallbiggrin: 6. my parents aren't even dead yet while the ancient greeks entire civilization is, I like clothes and not wearing them would just add to my problems. 7. Cows don't live in poop, a lot of insects do.

@Mad: What other stuff are there to be finished before FI?

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 08:01 AM
Me neither.

Nudity ≠ porn.

I presume everybody else will be ready for FI when the Battle of Alphantican ends ?


I dont think any of the gods or demigods or whatever had a sherlock holmes hat either.
And as for the ending of the battle for the stupid useless island...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZItgL_ILBMc/SBwJeBc-WQI/AAAAAAAACi8/jJ_017ZtU8M/s320/monty%2Bpython%2Bgod.jpg
GET ON WITH IT!

BRC
2009-07-21, 08:03 AM
When I lived in France-occupied territories, people really thought Montréal was an underground city.
The college I'm going to is just a short train ride from Montreal. So come september, you can feel creeped out.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 08:04 AM
You Don't? You mean Canada is not a perpetual winter wasteland where people ride dogsleds to work and go yeti hunting on the weekends?


...This is an entierly new concept for me.

Except for the yeti thing then that sound like Greenland, I lived there once (but I forgot how to speak the language) They eat seal and whale over there.

Keris
2009-07-21, 08:24 AM
:smallbiggrin:
:smallconfused:


1. I don't see what so great about that statue.
It's famous. And as Wikipedia puts it, it is "shorthand for culture".

2. It still summarise why most people are against nudity now, we are too used to clothes.
Not really. Any mature individual knows that nudity ≠ sex. Besides, we're nude at other times. You take off your clothes to bathe, and that's not considered offensive.

3. People bathe nude in the midst of winter over here (weirdoes).
Cold can be refreshing, although the sudden shock of immersion in very cold water can prove to be fatal.

4. Because most people and almost all religions get offended if you show public nudity on international sports channels. :smalltongue:.
I've seen total nudity on public television before, in the middle of the day, in the UK. And that show didn't get in any trouble, and is still on the air. I don't watch it, because I have better things to do. Like sit around on a forum all day.

5. I personally is against cannibalism because (among other reasons) it too easily results in murder, I think bugs are disgusting and clothes are warm and fun:smallbiggrin:
How does cannibalism beget murder? It's not like human meat would be addictive. Besides, even if it was, with soylent green was on the shelves, you wouldn't need to kill anyone for your next "fix".

6. my parents aren't even dead yet while the ancient greeks entire civilization is, I like clothes and not wearing them would just add to my problems.
If you're competing in a strenuous sporting event, you might see the appeal of not wearing heavy or limiting clothing.

7. Cows don't live in poop, a lot of insects do.
You've obviously not spent much time at a farm. Cows excrete something like 30kg of crap a day, and a lot of insects don't go anywhere near crap, particularly the juicy sort of bug.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 08:29 AM
...



Whatever let's stop this pointless and weird discussion, the taboos won't change fast enough for us to be alive when it happens (unless sciene makes us immortal, then we can discuss further)

Falgorn
2009-07-21, 08:31 AM
Change of Subject.

I hear Marilyn Manson's making a movie.
Alliteration rocks!

Keris
2009-07-21, 08:46 AM
I hear Marilyn Manson's making a movie.
Alliteration rocks!

It's hardly surprising that he decided to make it a horror. Despite it apparently being based on the life of Charles Dodgson. Who didn't do drugs, despite what the earlier discussion may have had you believe. If anything other than his own imagination contributed to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, it was his occasional migraine hallucinations.

Squark
2009-07-21, 08:47 AM
Non-FFF stuff relegated to da spoiler:


You'd recoil from Michaelangelo's David, one of the most famous sculptures in the world?


No offence to Dan Shive, but I don't think he's managed to properly summarise the reasons behind the nudity taboo that has been prevalent in the past few centuries, but was far less distinct prior to then.


Isn't it cold out there? According to my limited knowledge of geography, Canada is colder than the UK. You don't have the gulf stream.


Apart from the lower temperatures in non-equatorial regions, why not?


As both an outspoken hypocrite, I'm against a lot of taboos. Cannibalism is one, bug eating and nudity are others. Of course, I'm a vegetarian living in a country notorious for poor weather conditions.


Just because your parents walk around clothed doesn't mean you should.


Only around as much risk as eating any other food.



I've got a couple dangling, but I should be able to tie them up easily. I could even canonify Squark's last comic when I do so, if he agrees. It wouldn't be Ins though.

No, I decided against going with that.


I do have a bit of a problem though.


By blocking MM's avatar, I can't see his comics, which I use as a reference, so how do I allow it back in?

Keris
2009-07-21, 08:50 AM
By blocking MM's avatar, I can't see his comics, which I use as a reference, so how do I allow it back in?

What did you use to block it? Try and set it up so it blocks that specific image, not anything from that site.

Squark
2009-07-21, 08:52 AM
Uhh... I mean how do I turn off the blocking thing....


hmm...

lemme try something


EDIT: Nope. Do any firefox users know hot disable the image-source blocking thing?

Falgorn
2009-07-21, 08:53 AM
It's hardly surprising that he decided to make it a horror. Despite it apparently being based on the life of Charles Dodgson. Who didn't do drugs, despite what the earlier discussion may have had you believe. If anything other than his own imagination contributed to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, it was his occasional migraine hallucinations.

I didn't say he did drugs. I was just saying MM is making a movie, but, doing my reading on the Wiki, it looks like he was pretty weird. I think it was his imagination and nightmares.
What about him and the Jack the Ripper stuff?
I think it's a sack of crap, personally.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 08:59 AM
I didn't say he did drugs. I was just saying MM is making a movie, but, doing my reading on the Wiki, it looks like he was pretty weird. I think it was his imagination and nightmares.
What about him and the Jack the Ripper stuff?
I think it's a sack of crap, personally.

We might never know the truth about Jack the Ripper.

I didn't know Mad Mask made movies! :smalltongue:

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 09:00 AM
Uhh... I mean how do I turn off the blocking thing....


hmm...

lemme try something


EDIT: Nope. Do any firefox users know hot disable the image-source blocking thing?

Just go in your preferences, click content and change "Load images automatically".

Or if you have Ad Block Plus, just go to Add-ons in the "Tools" menu and click "disable".

Keris
2009-07-21, 09:04 AM
Uhh... I mean how do I turn off the blocking thing....

Advise is a lot easier to give if we know what your advising you with. What "blocking thing" are you using?

As an example, which may work for your program, I'll tell you how to unblock specific blocked images with AdBlock Plus. Click the drop down arrow next to the logo, then click Preferences. Under "My AdBlocking Rules" you should see "http://www.kinogo.com/victor/*" or similar. Uncheck the "Enabled" box, then click "Apply". Then when you re-block the image, make sure you tell it to block the image's address only, including filetype.


I didn't say he did drugs. I was just saying MM is making a movie, but, doing my reading on the Wiki, it looks like he was pretty weird. I think it was his imagination and nightmares.
What about him and the Jack the Ripper stuff?
I think it's a sack of crap, personally.
I wasn't addressing you specifically, there was a lengthy discussion on the subject of drugs and Alice's Adventures in Wonderland at an earlier point.
To my knowledge, Charles Dodgson never spent time in an abandoned castle, plagued by visions of a girl he knew and wrote stories for. He also wasn't Jack the Ripper, there are many huge flaws in that claim. For one, he has concrete alibis for three of Jack's murders.

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 09:16 AM
MM, I made a minor change to your avatar I think is a bit more acceptable
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll246/EmperorIng/betteroff.png

Squark
2009-07-21, 09:18 AM
Fixed it, thanks Mad mask...


Sorry if I was confusing, Keris. I used the method... Ninja Chocobo suggested, I think.

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 09:21 AM
MM, I made a minor change to your avatar I think is a bit more acceptable
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll246/EmperorIng/betteroff.png

Why is a black box more acceptable than a blur ?

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 09:25 AM
because your blur is the same color as your skin tone.
And in case your wondering, yes. A red blur would be acceptable.

Keveak
2009-07-21, 09:26 AM
because your blur is the same color as your skin tone.
And in case your wondering, yes. A red blur would be acceptable.

But looks like blood.

I think he should just give it a toga.

Mad Mask
2009-07-21, 09:31 AM
I've changed my avatar, you bunch of gymnophobiacs. :smallannoyed:

@Squark: My comics occur 2 hours and a half after the comics in which you enter the Sovereign. Feel free to run amok and cause as much damage as you want, as long as you don't blow up the ship.

Threeshades
2009-07-21, 09:31 AM
because your blur is the same color as your skin tone.
And in case your wondering, yes. A red blur would be acceptable.

You're overdoing it, it's just a stick figure

Emperor Ing
2009-07-21, 09:32 AM
But looks like blood.
a blurred red ball looks less like blood, but your point is considered.


I think he should just give it a toga.
Seconded, but I think we know that's not going to happen. :smallsigh:

Keris
2009-07-21, 09:35 AM
Why is a black box more acceptable than a blur ?

You could try a Mosiac Filter. It should be acceptable, it's the one Rich uses for censorship.

Also, the new FFF link seems to be broken. It's working now.