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ArenaManager
2009-07-21, 06:00 PM
Arena Tournament, Round 59: MisterSmiley & Tim vs. Nihl Nefzen & Reject #3

Map:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q76/NamelessOne_album/SinkingIsland.jpg



XP Award: 300 XP to each non-DQd member of winning team
GP Award: 300 GP to each non-DQd member of winning team


MisterSmiley (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=138275) - madtinker
Tim (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=131283) - MOD
Nihl Nefzen (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=136167) - aethernox
Reject #3 (http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=134373) - hustlertwo


All Combatants, please roll initiative and declare any final purchases

Prior to the match start you may privately plan by spoiler or PM with your partner, but after the start any communications will need to be done in character inside the arena as rules allow.

hustlertwo
2009-07-21, 06:25 PM
Madtinker, it would appear we have two fights against each other at the same time. I will be curious to see how we fare.

No purchases (like a monk can really purchase anything until he's won).

Init: [roll0]

madtinker
2009-07-21, 08:15 PM
Hustler, my tribe of Orcs shall reign terror on these boards, revenging the blood of their ancestors on the severed heads of all who oppose them, the combined might of...
oh, right, initiative. he he.
[roll0]
Was there a ruling onwhether the light in the arena was enough to dazzle orcs?

madtinker
2009-07-21, 08:20 PM
Also, what is the climb DC of the dark lines between elevations?
And no purchases. Barbarians aren't rich either.

madtinker
2009-07-21, 08:24 PM
@TimI'm thinking I want to climb to the grey high ground and destroy the warmage at range with my sling (one hit kills him) before he casts spells, then we duke it out with the monk, either at range or in close. Any input?

MOD
2009-07-21, 09:11 PM
@MisterSmiley
That sounds fine I'll one shot the other one, once I can see them I will give them a negative level and they will die.

Initiative [roll0]

madtinker
2009-07-21, 09:15 PM
@Timcool beans

ex cathedra
2009-07-21, 09:28 PM
Initiative : [roll0]

Purchases :
Spell Component Pouch. :smallredface:

hustlertwo
2009-07-21, 09:33 PM
So our order is:

Aethernox
Madtinker
Hustlertwo
MOD.

Aeth, you're up.

@Aeth
Try to stay fairly close, both so we can gang up on person and so we can talk. Can't use PMs after the match is started. I'd say do a regular move and ready something like Magic Missile, but if you have a better idea, preferably something more lethal, run with it.

ex cathedra
2009-07-21, 09:40 PM
Move from M25 to K22, Ready Orb of Fire, Lesser against the first enemy I see.


End turn.

madtinker
2009-07-21, 09:42 PM
Where are the respective teams starting (top or bottom of map, team members together?)

ex cathedra
2009-07-21, 09:48 PM
It took me a while to realize this myself, but the team names are color-coded in the first post. One can only assume the colors relate to the similarly colored starting positions on the map.

madtinker
2009-07-21, 10:07 PM
MisterSmiley
Assuming no Los
I am also assuming that the blackline cliffs are scaleable, and with a climb speed and +14 climb modifier, I can take ten and succede in scaling the cliff, so:
A massive orc surveys the battlefield, a sword at his waist, and fingering a disgusting strip of animal skin with bits of flesh still clinging to it (aka, my sling).
double move to O8, climbing as part of movement and taking ten for a result of 24 (using the corner in O7 to brace myself if necessary).Hide at top of cliff where I end my movement [roll0]
stats
HP 15/15
AC 19/FF 16/T 13
Saves +5/+3/-2
Sword attack/dmg +7/1d10+6, 19-20x2
Sling attack/dmg +4/1d4+6. x2
20 bullets

madtinker
2009-07-21, 10:10 PM
The edit above was to close the spoiler tabs on my stats.
LoS requested, and done.

hustlertwo
2009-07-22, 10:38 AM
I'm gonna go ahead and go, assuming we don't have LoS.

I have shuriken in hand as I start in N-25, and move to L-20. Ready to throw it if LoS is established.

Stats:

Position- L-20, HP-13, AC-13, Shuriken- 15/15

MOD
2009-07-22, 01:10 PM
Tim readies an action that if anyone tries to attack him he will cast a Fell Drained Magic Missle as a 2nd level spell by converting 2 1st level spells with his Versitile Spellcaster feat at the attacker. Tim also moves to from N2 to S5.

Going to the thread to ask for LOS.

Stats

Hp 6/6
AC 13

Psionic Dog
2009-07-23, 08:06 PM
High Ref PsiDog

One moment:

@MisterSmiley/madtinker
On Climbing:

Arena precedent has decreed that if a climb DC is unlisted any vertical surfaces may be assumed to be perfectly smooth.

Granted the rules do say one can pull himself up on a DC 15 climb when dangling from their hands, but that first requires getting a grip on the top of the cliff (10ft tall at O7/O8).

As such, a simple climb will not take you straight to the top. You may revise your turn however you wish.

madtinker
2009-07-23, 08:31 PM
@psionic Dog
using the rules for vertical reach, if I change my regular move to a run at the cliff and insert a jump check of DC 8, I haved jumped and grabbed the ledge[roll0]. The pull up is a standard action climb check, DC 15, which I can take ten on, and I end my move at the top of the cliff. (O8)

Psionic Dog
2009-07-23, 08:44 PM
Edit: LoS coming below...

Psionic Dog
2009-07-23, 08:45 PM
Ref Notes
Mister Smiley attempts to hide. With a -5 for movement he got a -1.
[roll0]
which with at 60ft of separation comes out to a -3
:smalleek: That has to have been the worst hide to check to ever succeed...


Nihl Nefzen
You see your parner Reject #3 move up to L-20 and ready an action.

No other LoS.

MisterSmiley
You see Reject #3 start in N-25 and move to L-20 and ready an action.

You see your partner Tim move east before breaking LoS behind the cliff North East of you.

No other LoS.

Reject #3
You see your partner Nihl standing in K-22 holding a readied action. No other LoS.

Tim
You watch your partner Smiley take a jump at the cliff and pull himself up to O-8 where he makes an attempt at hiding.

You break LoS as you move up against the cliff.

No other LoS

Note! Any movement you take must occur before an action is readied, as reading an action end your turn. If that was not your intent please say something before the next LoS check.

MOD
2009-07-23, 11:29 PM
@Ref
Yah that was not my intent. Tim wanted to move and have a readied action so thats what he does.

ex cathedra
2009-07-25, 06:34 PM
(Assuming It's my move)
Nihl


I repeat my last readied action


End turn.

madtinker
2009-07-26, 12:09 AM
Mister Smiler
make a spot check, looking for Nihl, or anyone else.[roll0]
not done, need LoS

Psionic Dog
2009-07-26, 06:18 AM
High Ref PsiDog

Ref Notes
Nothing to see here today, but an't LoS checks easy when no one moves. :smallcool:

Anyway, we'll roll a new spot for Reject #3 after Mister smiley finishes moving.

Nihl Nefzen
No change in LoS.

You see your parner Reject #3 holding a readied action.

No other LoS.

MisterSmiley
No change in LoS.

You still see just Reject #3 standing in L-20 with a readied action.

No other LoS.

Reject #3
No change in LoS

You see your partner Nihl standing in K-22 holding a readied action. No other LoS.

Tim
No change in LoS... you currently don't have any.

hustlertwo
2009-07-26, 09:35 AM
Reject #3

@Aeth

If we didn't see MisterSmiley after two rounds, it seems likely they're waiting for us the same way we are for them. Which isn't too good on this map. I'm going to suggest we make a move to get to the high ground; it's possible we get picked off en route, but if we stay, a loss is assured, thanks to Jaws and friends finding us in round 6. I'll go first; at least if I get hit with a sling bullet, I will almost certainly survive. Don't do double moves though; we should be able to get to the orange territory to the right in a couple rounds with regular moves, and that way we can keep readied actions in case we get lucky and they move to where we are.

My turn

I guess this will work, as I see nothing in the rules that say it won't...I move to S-19, and ready an action to throw my shuriken if LoS is established. Unless LoS comes into play while I'm moving, in which case I'll change my turn accordingly (meaning run right at the ponce and try to punch him so hard his kids will inherit the bruises).

Stats:

Position- S-19 (or possibly not if LoS was established), HP-13, AC-13, Shuriken- 15/15

madtinker
2009-07-26, 10:55 AM
Robin
move to R11, drawing sling as part of movement, and trying to hide. [roll0]
not done, need LoS again
and ref question In hustler's spoiler to Aeth (which I haven't read), if he is trying to communicate strategy, if they are not close enough to whisper, doesn't he have to shout to be heard, and don't we get listen checks to hear what is said?

Psionic Dog
2009-07-26, 12:17 PM
High Ref PsiDog

Ref Notes

[roll0]
DC 5 to hear, 15 to make out words.

[roll1]
[roll2]
[roll3]
[roll4]
Neither see Smiley, but he isn't moving silently. Say, DC 4 to hear + distance.
Both hear, and Nihl makes it by over 10.


Nihl Nefzen

You see your parner Reject #3, and hear his words.

You also hear movement on the eastern hill top to your North.

No other LoS.

Mister Smiley
As you arrive in P-10 you see Nihl Nefzen standing in K-22 holding a readied action.

You see and hear Reject speak, but can't make out his exact words.

It's still your turn although I'm at a loss what you intend to still do having already taken 2 move actions.


Reject #3
You still see your partner, and even as you speak hear movement to the north.

Tim
No LoS

Still Mister Smiley's turn.

madtinker
2009-07-26, 01:06 PM
MisterSmiley
After checking the rules, I was surprised to discover that making an active spot check is indeed a move action, and therefore I have no actions left. Thought it was a free action.
statsHP 15/15
AC 19/FF 16/T 13
Saves +5/+3/-2
Sword attack/dmg +7/1d10+6, 19-20x2
Sling attack/dmg +4/1d4+6. x2
20 bullets
location:R11
finally done

hustlertwo
2009-07-26, 01:46 PM
OK, assuming the rest of your turn didn't have any impact on what I described in mine, that makes it MOD's go.

MOD
2009-07-26, 02:11 PM
Tim moves to S5 to W8. Tim also readies an action to cast a Fell Drained Magic Missile as a 2nd level spell by converting two 1st level spells with his Versatile Spellcaster Feat at the first opponent he can see. He will Use 1 use of his Metamagic Specialist ability to reduce the casting time of this metamagic spell to 1 round and also use 1 use of his Metamagic School Focus feat to reduce the cost of this Metamagiced spell by 1.

Tim is also trying to be sneaky.
[roll0] Hide!
[roll1] Move Silently


Los, then top of the round!

Stats
Hp 6/6
AC: Full 13/Flatfooted 10/Touch 13(Base 10 + 3 Dex Mod)

Psionic Dog
2009-07-27, 06:12 PM
High Ref PsiDog

Nihl Nefzen


You may read your Hustler#3's actions.

No other LoS.

Mister Smiley

After speaking you see Reject #3 move east breaking LoS.

You still see Nihl Nefzen standing with a readied action in K-22

Reject #3

You see your partner still in K-22 with a readied action.

Tim

No LoS

ex cathedra
2009-07-27, 11:01 PM
Ref question :



You also hear movement on the eastern hill top to your North.
May I make reactive listen and/or spot checks?

Mavian
2009-07-27, 11:12 PM
@Aethernox

The fact that you heard something means a ref most likely rolled your reactive for you and gave the result.

ex cathedra
2009-07-28, 12:10 AM
@Mavian :

I see, then. Thanks.


Aerian :


To my teammate, I gesture the following :
I put a finger to my mouth, and point towards the hilltop to my north. I then point at myself, and then I point to the northwest.

Afterward, I proceed to move to F20.


Waiting for LoS
Thank you.


I ready a lesser orb of fire against the first target I see within 30 feet.


Now I'm ending my turn.

Psionic Dog
2009-07-28, 05:07 AM
High Ref PsiDog

Nihl Nefzen


You break LoS as you complete you movement.

Mister Smiley

You see Nihl Nefzen gesture the following :
"I put a finger to my mouth, and point towards the hilltop to my north. I then point at myself, and then I point to the northwest."

Nihl Nefzen then moves west breaking LoS.

Reject #3

You see your partner:

To my teammate, I gesture the following :
I put a finger to my mouth, and point towards the hilltop to my north. I then point at myself, and then I point to the northwest.
You then see him move west to G22 before turning north and breaking LoS.

Tim

No LoS

madtinker
2009-07-28, 09:22 AM
Mister Smiley
Move to T13. If I see Reject, I'll shoot him with my sling. [roll0] (not accounting for range or any bonus due to elevation)
damage[roll1] If I don't see him, I ready an action to shoot any enemy that either 1. Is about to leave LoS, 2. Casts a spell, or 3. Attacks any of my allies.
StatsHP 15/15
AC 19/FF 16/T 13
Saves +5/+3/-2
Sword attack/dmg +7/1d10+6, 19-20x2
Sling attack/dmg +4/1d4+6. x2
19 bullets
location:T13

hustlertwo
2009-07-28, 09:51 AM
Reject #3, Round 3 (I think)

I move to U-12, same ready action to throw a shuriken at any enemy within 30 feet (if both are, which seems a bit unlikely, I'll target the mage).


Stats:

Position- U-12, HP-13, AC-13, Shuriken- 15/15

MOD
2009-07-28, 05:40 PM
Tim moves to W8 to V13. Tim also readies an action to cast a Fell Drained Magic Missile as a 2nd level spell by converting two 1st level spells with his Versatile Spellcaster Feat at the first opponent he can see. He will Use 1 use of his Metamagic Specialist ability to reduce the casting time of this metamagic spell to 1 round and also use 1 use of his Metamagic School Focus feat to reduce the cost of this Metamagiced spell by 1.

Tim will also try to be sneaky as he moves.
[roll0] Hide!
[roll1] Move Silently



Stats
Hp 6/6
AC: Full 13/Flatfooted 10/Touch 13(Base 10 + 3 Dex Mod)

Psionic Dog
2009-07-28, 09:03 PM
High Ref PsiDog

@Refs
First, [roll0]
Next both MisterSmiley and Tim have their ready actions trigger.

This could be done by who has the highest initiative modifier, who has the highest initiative count, or who readied the action first. We'll go with who readied their action first.


Nihl Nefzen
No Los

Mister Smiley

When you arrive at T-13 there is no sign of Reject#3, but a few moments later you see Reject move around the corner appearing at U-18 triggering your readied action... but only after your partner Tim gets a chance with his own readied action.

Reject #3

LoS established when you reach U-18. Mister Smiley is standing in T-13 with a readied action.

Tim
You see Reject #3 round the corner into U-18 triggering your readied action.

Rewinding back Reject's turn, but first we have a readied action to resolve, if they chose to take it.

hustlertwo
2009-07-28, 09:34 PM
Must be his, because mine required the enemy to be within 30 feet, and I think he's at 35. Assuming it is what I guess it is,

Refs/Whoever has LoS with me
my turn will still end in U-12

Refs only
New ready action: Attempt to initiate grapple if he enters a square I threaten.

Stats:

Position- U-12, HP-13, AC-13, Shuriken- 15/15

madtinker
2009-07-28, 09:53 PM
according to the wording in my spoiler, Reject does not trigger my ready action.

hustlertwo
2009-07-28, 10:13 PM
Then I guess it's MOD's turn again.

madtinker
2009-07-28, 11:11 PM
I thought taking a readied action moves your initiative to whereever you took your action, so he won't go until next round just before Reject.

hustlertwo
2009-07-28, 11:51 PM
I don't think anyone took a readied action. So it seems to be MOD's turn.

MOD
2009-07-29, 12:09 AM
Correct me if I do anything wrong here but I think this is how it goes.

@Ref
Readied Action was to cast a Fell Drained Magic Missle as a 2nd level spell. Usable by using 1 use of my Metamagic Specialist class ability to decrease the casting time, 1 use of Metamagic School Focus: Evocation to lower the Metamagic cost and using Versatile Spellcaster to lose 2 level 1 spell slots to create a level 2 spell slot. Tim casts his Fell Drained magic Missle readied action at Reject #3 dealing [roll0] damage and giving him a negative level, killing him.

I don't believe any more rolls are necessary but if they are lemme know.

Also my readied action triggers before I take the stated actions for my turn correct? Does this mean I'm still in W8 and once the action is taken its the top of the round?

Psionic Dog
2009-07-29, 05:15 AM
@Tim & Reject #3

Right, so it was Tim that had the readied action that triggered.
Tim was in W-8, hidden until the action triggered.


Correct me if I do anything wrong here but I think this is how it goes.


Readied Action was to cast a Fell Drained Magic Missle as a 2nd level spell. Usable by using 1 use of my Metamagic Specialist class ability to decrease the casting time, 1 use of Metamagic School Focus: Evocation to lower the Metamagic cost and using Versatile Spellcaster to lose 2 level 1 spell slots to create a level 2 spell slot. Tim casts his Fell Drained magic Missle readied action at Reject #3 dealing (1d4+1)[4] damage and giving him a negative level, killing him.

I don't believe any more rolls are necessary but if they are lemme know.

Also my readied action triggers before I take the stated actions for my turn correct? Does this mean I'm still in W8 and once the action is taken its the top of the round?

@Reject #3: You have any way of stopping that?
@Tim: After your action triggers you are still in W-8 and your initiative changes to just before Reject's [Initiative 12.1]. Since that would make Reject the last to act for this round yes, action moves to the top of the next round.

hustlertwo
2009-07-29, 08:38 AM
Refs/Tim

No, not really a way to stop a Magic Missile without having the shield spell, as far as I know. I'm impressed; it was much more complex then Fell Drain Sonic Snap, but also provides a great deal longer range to insta-kill someone. I'm still no fan of the whole Fell Drain thing, think it's too overpowered for first level (this being another case in point). But I'm glad someone's being original with it.

I assume we can also not post in spoilers, yes? Or does my partner not get to know I am vanquished?

Psionic Dog
2009-07-29, 07:58 PM
High Ref PsiDog

With a slight gurgle one gladiator falls. The Red team section of the stands cheers. The Blue team section groans, for Reject #3 is down.

((Precedent says in 4 player matches everyone knows when someone drops... but not necessarily where/how/by whom it happened.))

Round 3. Water rises to cover the yellow sand.

LoS Check:

Nihl Nefzen
No LoS.

Mister Smiley
You see a magic missile cast somewhere to your east strike Reject- who then promptly dies.

No other LoS.

Tim
Reject Dies by your readied action. No other LoS.

Nihl Nefzen is now up.

ex cathedra
2009-07-29, 08:35 PM
Nihl :


Nihl moves, as stealthily as he can, to D18.
Hide [roll0]
Move Silently [roll1]
Assuming no LoS, readies a lesser orb of fire against the first target he sees within 30 feet.


Need LoS, then done.

Psionic Dog
2009-07-30, 08:51 PM
Nihl Nefzen

No LoS.

Mister Smiley

No LoS

Tim

No LoS

madtinker
2009-07-30, 09:07 PM
Mister Smiley
Move to P17. If I see Nihl, I'll shoot him with my sling. [roll0](this is not accounting for any advantage due to elevation), damage [roll1] If I don't see him, I ready an action to shoot him if I see him AND he: begins casting a spell, approaches within ten feet of me or Tim, or ends his movement within LoS
StatsHP 15/15
AC 19/FF 16/T 13
Saves +5/+3/-2
Sword attack/dmg +7/1d10+6, 19-20x2
Sling attack/dmg +4/1d4+6. x2
19 bullets
location:P17

Edit: Done

MOD
2009-07-30, 10:13 PM
Tim's Turn
Tim double moves to T9 and tries to be sneaky while he moves.
[roll0] Hide![roll1] Move Silently!

As a free Action Tim drops prone when he hits T9.

Tim crosses his fingers and hopes that not having a readied action doesn't kill him dead.


Stats
Hp 6/6
AC Full 13/Flat-Footed 10/ Touch 13
Spells left 2/4 1st Level, 5/5 0th Level

Psionic Dog
2009-07-31, 05:11 AM
Water Rises a little more.

Nihl Nefzen

You are now wading in shallow water.

No LoS.

Mister Smiley

No LoS

Tim

No LoS

ex cathedra
2009-07-31, 02:09 PM
Nihl :


Double move to G17, as stealthily as he can manage. (Which, considering his pace, isn't especially stealthy)
Hide [roll0]
Move Silently [roll1]


LoS then done.

Psionic Dog
2009-07-31, 04:22 PM
High Ref PsiDog

Ref Notes
[roll0] DC 1 +4 distance = 5
[roll1] DC -1 +4 distance = 3

[roll2] DC -1 +8distance +2circumstance = 9



Nihl Nefzen

When you reach G-17 you see Mister Smiley standing in P-17.
He has a readied action. You each have cover from the other.


Mister Smiley

You see Nihl appear and end in G-17. You both have cover from the other. I think this time your readied action triggers.

Tim

No LoS

madtinker
2009-08-01, 01:11 AM
MisterSmileyI choose to not use my readied action, but choose to renew it with a slight midification; If he ends his movement within LoS but without cover, or is about to cast a spell, or attacks me or an ally, or is about to break LoS, I attack him with my sling.
Edit: Done

MOD
2009-08-01, 01:45 AM
Tim's Turn
Tim crawls sneakily 5 feet to S9. Tim also readies an action to cast a Fell Drained Magic Missile using all the appropriate things he needs to use just like before at his opponent if his opponent tries to attack.

[roll0] Hide!
[roll1] Move Silently!

Do I need to role again for Hide and Move Silently since I'm only moving 5 feet?


Stats
Hp 6/6
AC Full 13/Flat-Footed 10/ Touch 13 [+4 to all vs ranged attacks b/c prone]
Spells left 2/4 1st Level, 5/5 0th Level

Psionic Dog
2009-08-01, 08:54 PM
High Ref PsiDog

@refs

[roll0]
DC 10 + 4 to hear Tim.

At this point Tim can just see Smiley, but the hill still completely blocks LoS between Tim and Nil.




Nihl Nefzen

Mister Smiley is still standing in P-17 and is still holding a readied action.
You both have cover from the other.



Mister Smiley

You still see Nihl in G-17. You both have cover from the other.

You also hear movement to the north.


Tim

You see Mister Smiley standing in P-17 holding a readied action.

ex cathedra
2009-08-02, 06:16 PM
Nihl :


I fall prone and quietly crawl to H18. I shift a standard to a move to do so.
Hide : [roll0]
Move Silently : [roll1]

Psionic Dog
2009-08-03, 05:41 PM
@Refs
I don't know of any rules for Prone and LoS, so we'll say this halves effective space along vertical... unless some other ref knows where RaW explains this.

Dropping from 5ft to 2.5ft breaks LoS and triggers Smilies readied action.

@Mister Smiley & Nihl
Nihl starts to break LoS. I think that triggers Smiley's readied action if he choses to take it.

madtinker
2009-08-03, 06:50 PM
Mister Smiley
take the ready action triggered by him moving out of LoS.
attack with sling[roll0]
damage[roll1]

@refsthat moves me down the initiative order to just after Nihl, correct? So I don't get another turn until after his next turn?

statsHP 15/15
AC 19/FF 16/T 13
Saves +5/+3/-2
Sword attack/dmg +7/1d10+6, 19-20x2
Sling attack/dmg +4/1d4+6. x2
19 bullets
location:P17

02youeng
2009-08-04, 05:22 PM
High [awwwwwight] Referee 02youeng

Mr. Smiley:
Your initiative is changed to just before Nihl's, not after

MOD
2009-08-04, 05:34 PM
Here's hoping that everything was resolved.

Move Action to Stand. Move action Tim then moves to R13. Free Action Tim drops prone when he hits R13.

Tim also tries to be sneaky when he moves. Gotta be sneaky...sneaky... Charlie...

[roll0] Hide!
[roll1] Move Silently!



Whisper Whisper
"Have you spotted the Mage so we may end this pathetic charade of a match?" Tim whispers whisperingly.

Stats

Hp 6/6
AC Full 13/Flat-Footed 10/ Touch 13 [+4 to all vs ranged attacks b/c prone]
Spells left 2/4 1st Level, 5/5 0th Level

02youeng
2009-08-05, 06:20 AM
High Ref 02youeng

Refs:
DC 23 Listen check for Nihl to hear Tim - can't roll high enough

Tim:
You see your team mate in P17, his sling empty

Mr. Smiley:
You see your team mate enter R13, and drop prone. He says to you "Have you spotted the Mage so we may end this pathetic charade of a match?"

Nihl:
No LoS

Mr. Smiley's go, I believe

madtinker
2009-08-05, 10:41 AM
Mister Smiley (initiative adjusted because of ready action; I am now after Tim and before Nihl. At least, I think its an adjustement, it might not be. Anyways...)
Free action; Whisper to Tim; he was over there (G17), but slipped away. I'll bet he's heading north.
Ref question: If I were to long jump from P18 to K18 (DC 15), so I get any modifier for the five foot difference in hieght (I'm higher). Logically, it should make the jump easier, right?
not done, need ref for question.

Psionic Dog
2009-08-05, 04:59 PM
High Ref PsiDog


@MisterSmiley/MadTinker
Please Review the following (Unoffical) Arena Moto's :smalltongue:


If it's stupid but RAW, its Law.


RAW is stupid.
RAW is illogical.
All hail the RAW

Sorry, we can not pass out circumstance bonuses unless there are other rule examples we can extrapolate from to validate the possibility of said bonuses.

The rules explain the mechanics for calculating the DC for a jump to a higher elevation, but say nothing about jumping to a lower elevation except to avoid/reduce falling damage.

madtinker
2009-08-05, 07:26 PM
Mister Smiley
Free Action:Whisper to Tim: "I'm gonna try a long jump."
Move action; Move backward to R18
Ready action; shoot Nihl with sling should he reappear with or without cover.

StatsHP 15/15
AC 19/FF 16/T 13
Saves +5/+3/-2
Sword attack/dmg +7/1d10+6, 19-20x2
Sling attack/dmg +4/1d4+6. x2
19 bullets
location:R18
done

ex cathedra
2009-08-07, 02:55 PM
Nihl :


I quietly crawl to I18.
Hide : [roll0]
Move Silently : [roll1]
Assuming no LoS, I ready a lesser orb of fire against the first enemy I see within 30 feet of me.


Done, need LoS.

MOD
2009-08-07, 10:30 PM
Tim
Tim crawls to R14, move action. Tim readies an action to cast a fell drained magic missile on his opponent should he appear with all the appropriate feat usages just like last time, standard action. Tim tries to be sneaky when he moves.

[roll0] Hide!
[roll1] Move Silently!

Stats

Hp 6/6
AC Full 13/Flat-Footed 10/ Touch 13 [+4 to all vs ranged attacks b/c prone]
Spells left 2/4 1st Level, 5/5 0th Level

Psionic Dog
2009-08-08, 07:43 AM
High Ref PsiDog

One moment. This has turned into a one impressive LoS train wreck pile-up. I'm going over the history to see could have seen whom when, but it's possible that a major rewind might be needed.

Part of me wonders if even the combatants know which round and order their own characters are acting in.

Edit: Ok, it wasn't quite as bad as it looked see next post.

Psionic Dog
2009-08-08, 08:11 AM
@Refs
Round 4: Started post # 53?
• Nihl - Moved to G-17. LoS established between Nihl & Smiley

• Smiley - Does not take readied action. Readies new action.
Smiley is in P-17

• Tim - Moves to S-9

Round 5: Started post 58
• Nihl - Drops and moves to H-18. From H-18 he has no cover against Smiley

• Smiley - Took Readied action against Smiley.

• Tim - Moves to R-13. Has mutual cover against Smiley.
Illegal: Tim can not whisper to Smiley since they are not adjacent!
[roll0] DC 9 + 6 distance = DC 15
[roll1] DC 7+ 6 distance = DC 13

Round 6:
• Smiley Can not whisper to Tim. Needs Rewind at least to hear since LoS established with Nihl.

• Nihl and Tim each do stuff that we will be rewinding past this point.

If Tim decides he'd rather not shout at Smiley we'll rewind to Tim-Round 5. Otherwise we'll rewind to Smiley, round 6.

Edit: Looks like the spot checks were made. Rewinding to Tim, Round 5

Rewinding to Tim's turn, round 5. (post #63)

LoS
Smiley
You see Nihl crawl around the corner to H-18, prone.
You have cover from Nihl, but Nihl has no cover from you.

You see Tim walk up to R-13. You can not whisper to each other since you are not adjacent.

You are still in P-17

Nihl
You crawl around the corner to still see Smiley still in P-17 where you last saw him.

Smiley has cover from you, but you have no cover from Smiley.

A few moments later you see Tim appear at R-13.

Tim
You can't whisper to your partner unless you are adjacent. Since Smiley is in P-17 you are not adjacent.

You do however see a prone Nihl in H-18 once you arrive in R-13. You each have cover from the other, and if you chose to drop prone will have total cover from each other.

Need a question from Tim and then it will be Smilies turn, round 6.

MOD
2009-08-08, 09:46 AM
Tim Round 5 Rewinded

When Tim reaches R13 since Tim can see Nihl he will drop prone only after casting the spell if it doesn't kill Nihl. He casts a Fell Drained Magic Missile as a 2nd level spell. Usable by using 1 use of his Metamagic Specialist class ability to decrease the casting time, 1 use of Metamagic School Focus: Evocation to lower the Metamagic cost and using Versatile Spellcaster to lose 2 level 1 spell slots to create a level 2 spell slot. Tim casts his Fell Drained Magic Missile at Nihl dealing [roll0] damage and giving him a negative level, killing him. Umm I thought I had a standard action to spend see next post for actual usable content.

hustlertwo
2009-08-08, 10:22 AM
Tim

In that turn, you had already used a move action to stand and a move action to get to R-13. You can't cast anything that turn. You simply have to decide whether you want to lie prone or not.

MOD
2009-08-08, 10:32 AM
Re-Rewind Tim's Round 5

Umm so Tim doesn't drop prone then.

madtinker
2009-08-08, 02:03 PM
Clarifying intiative;
Aethernox
Madtinker
MOD

Right?
So, we're at the top of the round, Nihl is up.

hustlertwo
2009-08-08, 02:15 PM
Going by the rewind, it would be your turn.

madtinker
2009-08-08, 02:26 PM
Oh right, because of the ready action I took that moved me to right before Nihl, gotcha.
Mister SmileyAttack! shoot Nihl with sling [roll0]
damage[roll1](I think I'm still within one range increment). Then move to S18
statsHP 15/15
AC 19/FF 16/T 13
Saves +5/+3/-2
Sword attack/dmg +7/1d10+6, 19-20x2
Sling attack/dmg +4/1d4+6. x2
18 bullets
location:S18

madtinker
2009-08-08, 02:27 PM
And done, sprry to double post.

MOD
2009-08-09, 05:04 PM
I don't wanna get disqualified, is it my go or Nihls?

madtinker
2009-08-09, 05:19 PM
It is Nihl's I believe.

hustlertwo
2009-08-09, 05:23 PM
It's Nihl. He's got a bit less than a day to post.

ex cathedra
2009-08-09, 08:08 PM
It does seem to be mine, but I can't do much without LoS. It was established not too long ago, but you spoilered your action, regardless. So I think I'd best wait until I have a clear idea of what's going on. :smallredface:

Mavian
2009-08-09, 08:15 PM
If you have LoS sight, you can read spoilers posted by that character. It's in the rules.

ex cathedra
2009-08-12, 09:32 PM
Nihl :

Nihl crawls to I18 and readies an action.

Orb of Fire, lesser, against the first enemy within 30ft.



(( Done, sorry for the repeated delays; I've had a busy week. ))

Psionic Dog
2009-08-13, 05:14 AM
High Ref PsiDog

Hmm. It appears that we have complete LoS on all sides. (Everyone can see everyone)

MrSmiley is standing in S-18. He has cover from Nihl.
Nihl is prone in I-18. He has cover from Tim. Nihl has a readied action.
Tim is standing in R-13. He has cover from Nihl.

hustlertwo
2009-08-13, 08:56 AM
And I think (but am not sure) that it's MOD's turn, thanks to the shuffling of the order from readied actions.

MOD
2009-08-13, 11:02 AM
Tim's Turn

Cast a Fell Drained Magic Missle as a 2nd level spell. Usable by using 1 use of my Metamagic Specialist class ability to decrease the casting time, 1 use of Metamagic School Focus: Evocation to lower the Metamagic cost and using Versatile Spellcaster to lose 2 level 1 spell slots to create a level 2 spell slot.

Tim casts his Fell Drained magic Missle at Nihl dealing [roll0] damage and giving him a negative level, killing him.

madtinker
2009-08-13, 11:20 AM
Mister Smiley throws rocks at the body, frustrated he didn't even get a shot off. He drops his shield and enters a rage. Then he runs and jumps across the chasm with a DC 15 check. [roll0] Then he hacks mercilessly at the body with one of his hatchets.

Note: If for any reason Nihl is still alive, pay attention to only the dropping shield and jumping portions of this post.

madtinker
2009-08-13, 11:21 AM
So now we make a DC reflex save to grab the edge. [roll0]. Guess I'm glad this is just for fun.

Um, Tim didn't specify a target...I hope we can assume he meant Nihl and not myself?:smalltongue: