Gralamin
2009-09-06, 11:28 PM
The stance progressions in Tome of Battle, really do not make any sense. To combat this problem, I'm trying to redefine them as follows:
Classes have New Stances available at (Maneuver Level):
Swordsage - 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th
Crusader - 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 8th
Warblade - 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 8th
Crusader: Start with -1-, Ends with -4-
Swordsage: Start with -1-, Ends with -6-
Warblade: Start with -1-, Ends with -4-
Premise: Taking feats should not be necessary to make a stance reasonably available.
First thought: Give each another stance, try to meet up with the maneuver levels above.
Conclusion: Giving a Progression of 3/4+1/4 per level (3/4 at level 1) to Crusader and Warblade works nicely. They gain each of their stances relatively close to where they start appearing.
Conclusion 2: Swordsages don't really fit, give the Swordsages the ability to retrain to higher level maneuvers at a certain point. Follow a Progression of 1+1/2 per level (Starting at 3/2 at level 1), Cap at 7.
{table="head"]Level|Swordsage|Crusader|Warblade|Notes
1|1|1|1|New Stances for All
2|1|1|1|-
3|2|1|1|-
4|2|1|1|-
5|3|2|2|New Stances for All
6|3|2|2|-
7|4|2|2|-
8|4|2|2|-
9|5|3|3|New Stances for All
10|5|3|3|-
11|6|3|3|New Stances for All but Warblade
12|6|3|3|-
13|7|4|4|New Stances for All but Crusader
14|7|4|4|-
15|7|4|4|New Stances for All
16|7*|4|4|-
17|7|5|5|-
18|7|5|5|-
19|7|5|5|-
20|7|5|5|-[/table]
* = Retrain a stance at this level.
This was my thoughts on the manner, but I am definitely open to other ideas. Thoughts, comments?
Edit: Tired caused stupid error, fixed.
Classes have New Stances available at (Maneuver Level):
Swordsage - 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th
Crusader - 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 8th
Warblade - 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 8th
Crusader: Start with -1-, Ends with -4-
Swordsage: Start with -1-, Ends with -6-
Warblade: Start with -1-, Ends with -4-
Premise: Taking feats should not be necessary to make a stance reasonably available.
First thought: Give each another stance, try to meet up with the maneuver levels above.
Conclusion: Giving a Progression of 3/4+1/4 per level (3/4 at level 1) to Crusader and Warblade works nicely. They gain each of their stances relatively close to where they start appearing.
Conclusion 2: Swordsages don't really fit, give the Swordsages the ability to retrain to higher level maneuvers at a certain point. Follow a Progression of 1+1/2 per level (Starting at 3/2 at level 1), Cap at 7.
{table="head"]Level|Swordsage|Crusader|Warblade|Notes
1|1|1|1|New Stances for All
2|1|1|1|-
3|2|1|1|-
4|2|1|1|-
5|3|2|2|New Stances for All
6|3|2|2|-
7|4|2|2|-
8|4|2|2|-
9|5|3|3|New Stances for All
10|5|3|3|-
11|6|3|3|New Stances for All but Warblade
12|6|3|3|-
13|7|4|4|New Stances for All but Crusader
14|7|4|4|-
15|7|4|4|New Stances for All
16|7*|4|4|-
17|7|5|5|-
18|7|5|5|-
19|7|5|5|-
20|7|5|5|-[/table]
* = Retrain a stance at this level.
This was my thoughts on the manner, but I am definitely open to other ideas. Thoughts, comments?
Edit: Tired caused stupid error, fixed.