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Mystic Muse
2009-09-22, 03:27 PM
I'm wondering. Is Stanley's side good or bad? or are both sides evil? it's kind of hard to tell although it looks a bit like Ansom's original side were the good guys. of course they DID have vampires which is kind of a mark against them.

BRC
2009-09-22, 03:33 PM
I'm wondering. Is Stanley's side good or bad? or are both sides evil? it's kind of hard to tell although it looks a bit like Ansom's original side were the good guys. of course they DID have vampires which is kind of a mark against them.
Which side is Good and which is evil?

the answer is Yes.

Mystic Muse
2009-09-22, 03:52 PM
as Jack sparrow would say. "Well that's maddeningly unhelpful"

BRC
2009-09-22, 03:59 PM
as Jack sparrow would say. "Well that's maddeningly unhelpful"
And yet it is very accurate. Your question assumes that the story has a clear "Good Guy" and "Bad Guy". Which is odd because, fairly early on, that very question comes up
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0031.html

Now, of course, very few Bad Guys think that they are Bad Guys. But you can't say that the RCC were good guys just because they wore the shiny armor.
Both sides felt they were perfectly justified in their actions. Stanley, because he thought it was the Titan's will that he gather the Arkentools, and Ansom, because he wanted to stop Stanely's rampant agressions/ didn't like a non-royal ruling a nation having taken over from a Royal under questionable circumstances.

Mystic Muse
2009-09-22, 04:17 PM
now see THAT'S actually helpful and answers the question.

that's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure neither side was supposed to be the side we're supposed to be rooting for because they're good.

also, how do I go to the first written version of the comic on the new site? do I have to go through each thing one at a time?

T-O-E
2009-09-22, 08:05 PM
also, how do I go to the first written version of the comic on the new site? do I have to go through each thing one at a time?

This is the Summer update archive. (http://www.erfworld.com/summer-update-2009-archive/)

LurkerInPlayground
2009-09-22, 09:14 PM
Going to Erfworld page just takes me to the most recent update.

I'd say Stanley qualifies as "evil." He's a tyrannical man-child. But as he's quick to point out, he's hardly the only guy out there who benefits by using force.

At any rate, Stanley is actually becoming a mite more sympathetic as a character. Deep down, he's beginning to suspect that maybe his destiny wasn't anything terribly special and now he's beginning to feel lonely because of his power.

I mean, it's not like he actually did anything. He just got really, really lucky his entire life. And now he's the leader of a soon-to-be-empire. And he has no idea what to make of it.

Mercenary Pen
2009-10-30, 07:54 PM
And yet it is very accurate. Your question assumes that the story has a clear "Good Guy" and "Bad Guy". Which is odd because, fairly early on, that very question comes up
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0031.html

Now, of course, very few Bad Guys think that they are Bad Guys. But you can't say that the RCC were good guys just because they wore the shiny armor.
Both sides felt they were perfectly justified in their actions. Stanley, because he thought it was the Titan's will that he gather the Arkentools, and Ansom, because he wanted to stop Stanely's rampant agressions/ didn't like a non-royal ruling a nation having taken over from a Royal under questionable circumstances.

IMO, Erfworld does not appear to have any good guys (other than casters with noncombatant tendencies). All else is open to debate.

multilis
2009-10-30, 11:58 PM
IMO, Erfworld does not appear to have any good guys (other than casters with noncombatant tendencies). All else is open to debate.We don't even know how many sides there are, there is a fair bit of mystery around the magic kingdom, especially after Parson's visit there.

Krytha
2009-10-31, 12:23 AM
Parson is on the side which doesn't want to kill him.

Kalbron
2009-10-31, 05:10 AM
I mean, it's not like he actually did anything. He just got really, really lucky his entire life. And now he's the leader of a soon-to-be-empire. And he has no idea what to make of it.

I'd say managing to work up from being a near-mindless piker who would be obsessed with his weapon through to a warlord is something of an achievement. Then he got lucky, found an arkentool, and went on a rampage of conquest for Saline.

Stanely is meant to be good at combat and intuitive tactics. The fact that he mopped the floor with Caesar should be evidence enough of his skills in combat.

It's strategy and general higher cognitive functions that he's useless at. Which is why if he somehow was made a warlord again, and someone smarter made Overlord, GK would be a hell of a lot more dangerous.

Slayn82
2009-10-31, 07:50 AM
also, how do I go to the first written version of the comic on the new site? do I have to go through each thing one at a time?

To view the archive in the new site, go to the selection box in the left corner, its right under the Rob's plug, and select Book 1, to go to a overall view of the first book, or Summer update, to a overall view of them.

LurkerInPlayground
2009-11-02, 03:03 PM
I'd say managing to work up from being a near-mindless piker who would be obsessed with his weapon through to a warlord is something of an achievement. Then he got lucky, found an arkentool, and went on a rampage of conquest for Saline.

Stanely is meant to be good at combat and intuitive tactics. The fact that he mopped the floor with Caesar should be evidence enough of his skills in combat.

It's strategy and general higher cognitive functions that he's useless at. Which is why if he somehow was made a warlord again, and someone smarter made Overlord, GK would be a hell of a lot more dangerous.
Umm. Nothing you say here adds anything to what I've said.

He's always been an infantryman. A soldier. He doesn't have much imagination for anything else. He's good at thumping things and some basic procedure and that's about it. He has prowess in combat, but so what? (Nevermind, that he had an artifact to help beat Caesar.)

He was never meant to be anything more than a mere grunt, so he's mystified by the fact that he's suddenly in a position of power and responsibility. It makes him feel lonely and confused anytime anything gets a little bit weird or boring. He doesn't "get it," although he's more than willing to credit Titanic mandate or his extraordinary luck.

And that's what pisses of most Royals. It's evidently clear that he's a grunt in the wrong place. He just confirms their prejudices, although there are noteworthy exceptions in people like Charlie or Caesar.

Arcanoi
2009-11-02, 07:26 PM
Well, according to the last page of the first book, it's quite obvious that Parson considers himself to be on his OWN side, and indeed, it's quite possible that he is. He was able to swear, after all.

tribble
2009-11-02, 08:55 PM
Parson is wholeheartedly and loyally on his own side.

Rad
2009-11-03, 05:12 AM
And that's what pisses of most Royals. It's evidently clear that he's a grunt in the wrong place. He just confirms their prejudices, although there are noteworthy exceptions in people like Charlie or Caesar.
I don't think that Charlie is a Royal at all. my personal pet theory is that he is another "human player", like Parson.

Justyn
2009-11-03, 05:33 AM
Parson's Side?

Gobwin Knob (http://www.erfworld.com/wiki/index.php/Gobwin_Knob_(Side)).

ObadiahtheSlim
2009-11-03, 09:03 AM
Charlie isn't a royal. Plenty of characters have said so.

As for Parson, he is on Gobwin Knobs side. He is magically bound to server Stanley. More importantly, he enjoys advancing Gobwin Knob's side. He enjoys working with some of the casters, although he doesn't really trust Wanda. I don't blame him. Once a traitor, always a traitor.

LurkerInPlayground
2009-11-03, 01:27 PM
I don't think that Charlie is a Royal at all. my personal pet theory is that he is another "human player", like Parson.
And neither is Caesar.

The idea I'm trying to convey is that neither Caesar or Charlie fall in line with Royal stereotypes.

Caesar is just a lowly Count and is heir-designate. He wasn't popped as a Royal, he was appointed to it. He's a minor noble and doesn't have "Royal blood."

Jen0608
2009-11-07, 11:24 AM
Parsons always in between.

Thomar_of_Uointer
2010-04-20, 04:55 PM
Parson is on the side which doesn't want to kill him.

...the side which doesn't want to kill him when Stanley is having a good day.

Parson has been close to being disbanded at least twice.

Bongos
2010-04-20, 07:53 PM
Parson is on his own side now. He's not a piece, he's a player. It's him versus Erfworld.

Roland St. Jude
2010-04-20, 09:39 PM
Sheriff of Moddingham: Thread necromancy.