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Rasman
2009-12-07, 09:33 PM
I'm working on a grappling Monk, atm, and I was wondering...

...when I pin an opponent, can I Coup de Grace them if I have the Imp Grapple and Greater Grapple feats?

HCL
2009-12-07, 09:34 PM
Are they helpless when they are greater grappled? I don't know, but if so yes.

Wings of Peace
2009-12-07, 09:38 PM
I am unfamiliar with the feats but if they act as you are indicating they would be very sexy on a Black Blood Cultist.

Assassin89
2009-12-07, 09:49 PM
I do not think so, as being pinned does not mean a character is helpless.

Rasman
2009-12-07, 09:51 PM
I do not think so, as being pinned does not mean a character is helpless.

So I'd have to take a turn to tie them up or put manacles on them or something?

Anonanimal
2009-12-07, 10:02 PM
This isn't necessarily helpful for a grappling Monk (though building a grappling monk is...difficult with magical assistance, due to size issues), but in terms of taking advantage of coups de grāce, Freezing the Lifeblood (http://realmshelps.dandello.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Freezing_The_Lifeblood) could be the feat for you. Combining it with Death Blow (http://realmshelps.dandello.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Death_Blow) could also be fun, as it turns coups de grāce into standard actions instead of full-round actions.

Rasman
2009-12-07, 10:05 PM
This isn't necessarily helpful for a grappling Monk (though building a grappling monk is...difficult with magical assistance, due to size issues), but in terms of taking advantage of coups de grāce, Freezing the Lifeblood (http://realmshelps.dandello.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Freezing_The_Lifeblood) could be the feat for you. Combining it with Death Blow (http://realmshelps.dandello.net/cgi-bin/feats.pl?Death_Blow) could also be fun, as it turns coups de grāce into standard actions instead of full-round actions.

well, my Monk is pathfinder, so I get Quivering Palm as a class ability around the time my BAB will be that high anyway, so I get Freezing the Lifeblood for free eventually

Death Blow I might look into, though...although I will probably have one of our...3...rogues CdG him for me...