Angelic Wings?

[Stone Heart]

On my next character I am going to be playing an Aasimar Cleric, and I was wondering if anyone knew of a legit way to get him to have angelic wings. I am hoping for something in a book I don't have, but I could go for some homebrew too.

[Cheesegear]

Favoured Soul gains feathery ('angelic') wings. Its like a Cleric. Sort of.

[BobVosh]

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7605186

Lots of wings in there.

[JaronK]

There's the Winged template, but it's +2 LA.

JaronK

[Rosalinath]

favored soul (Complete Divine) gives out wings. Alternatively theres the spell Aspect of the Deity (greater?) that turns you into a half celestial/fiend which gives wings either way.

[Cheesegear]

This is what I was looking for. I knew I'd seen it somewhere.

How to Get Wings.


Races and Templates:
Raptoran (level 5, 10)
Dragonborn (can be stacked with Raptoran at level 10 or 5)
Winged Template (+2 la, cannot already have a fly speed)
Half-Fiend (+4 la)
Half-Celestial (+4 la)
Half-Dragon (+3 la, must be large size)
Half-Fey (+2 la, cannot already have wings)

Classes:
Dragon Disciple (lvl 9, know arcana 8, spontaneous arcane casting)
Rainbow Servant (lvl 4, know arcana 4, non-evil or chaotic, 3rd arcane spells)
Enlightened Spirit (lvl 3, 3d6 eldritch blast, 8 know planes, good)**
Favored Soul (lvl 17)
Dragon Shaman (lvl 19)

Feats:
Dragon Wings (dragonblood subtype, 1st level only)
Starspawn (two other abberant feats)
Vestigial Wings
Skin of the Construct (astral construct power)*
Animal Devotion*

Soulmelds:
Pegasus Cloak (bound to shoulders)**
Incarnate Avatar (bound to soul, evil or good)**
Manticore Belt (bound to waist)**

Spells:
Flight of the Dragon (level 5, sorcerer)*
Demon Wings (level 3, Blackguard/Demonic Domain)*

Invocations:
Fell Flight (lesser, warlock)**
Draconic Flight (lesser, dragonfire adept)**

Grafts:
Feathered Wings (10,000 gp, slowly turns user evil)
Membranous Wings (50,000 gp, slowly turns user evil)
Buffeting Wings (100,000)

Magic Items:
Wings of Flying (54,000 gp)**


Notes:
* Denotes a method that has a duration below 24 hours.
** Denotes a method that has a duration of 24 hours or over.

Unfortunately, the Ratoran, +LA templates and the Favoured Soul are the only ones that gain feathered wings (not including items/grafts). IIRC the rest are Draconic or Demonic/Bat-like.

[ShadowFighter15]

I think it's a 3rd Edition book, but there's a feat in Races of Faerun called Outsider Wings that let you grow wings and fly at your land speed with average manoeuvrability. The prereqs are to be an aasimar or tiefling, have the Celestial/Fiendish Bloodline feat (whichever applies to your chosen race) and all of your base saves have to be at least +2.

Again, I'm not sure if the book's still valid or not.

[Cheesegear]

You could also try Rainbow Savant (Complete Divine). However, two problems;

You need to be a a Wizard (Sorcerer might be better) to get into the PrC. Not such a bad deal. Since it gets Cleric spells as well. Second, the Rainbow Savant is flavour/world-specific. Your DM needs to be reasoned with if you want this class. Especially since the text of the class (not the table) makes it fairly powerful as the text says the class gains +1 arcane spellcasting every level. Wheras the table skips a few levels. Official word says text trumps table.

[2xMachina]

Is there any reason not to buy the Wings of Flying rather than the LA templates? Speed/maneuverability might not be so good, and costs 54k, but it's just trading $$$ for flight. Not sure, but it doesn't actually takes a slot too right?

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/WondrousItems.htm#wingsofFlying

Bird wings are feathered, so you could go for Dove wings, and pass that off as Celestial wings.

[BobVosh]

Alternative: Get one of the bat wings. Buy a hat of disguise. Noone will ever know.

[Stone Heart]

Wow you guys responded really fast. This is a low level campaign we are running so at the moment the prestige class does not seem the most optimal, same goes for the very expensive item there.

I am looking into the Races of Faerun thing, I happen to have that book, but Favored soul and Winged Template seem to be the most tempting at the moment, any other suggestions?

[Curmudgeon]

I am looking into the Races of Faerun thing, I happen to have that book, but Favored soul and Winged Template seem to be the most tempting at the moment, any other suggestions?
If you can swing the two feats, Outsider Wings will work as soon as all your base saves are at +2. Winged template is +2 LA, which means you'll be 2 class levels behind everyone else. Favored Soul is a decent class, but you don't get wings until level 17 -- that's probably not going to fit with your low level campaign.

If you're an Evil Aasimar Cleric you can get Feathered Wings as a Fiendish graft (Fiend Folio, page 210) for 10,000 gp.

[Stone Heart]

Yeah the Favored souls level of wings really dropped its rank on the totem pole, and with the Winged template thats another two levels on top of the Aasimar one level adjustment.

Thanks for all the help I am sure one of these will work, just need to figure out which one, maybe see if me and the dm can come to some kind of arrangement, I just really like the idea of the holy warrior with angelic wings thing right now, so thats what I was going for.

[Siegel]

This is what I was looking for. I knew I'd seen it somewhere.

How to Get Wings.



Unfortunately, the Ratoran, +LA templates and the Favoured Soul are the only ones that gain feathered wings (not including items/grafts). IIRC the rest are Draconic or Demonic/Bat-like.

You know, you could reflavour ?

I really like this about 4e "You grow wings that look, batlike or angelic oder mechanic or in any way that fit your god"

[BobVosh]

Yeah the Favored souls level of wings really dropped its rank on the totem pole, and with the Winged template thats another two levels on top of the Aasimar one level adjustment.

Thanks for all the help I am sure one of these will work, just need to figure out which one, maybe see if me and the dm can come to some kind of arrangement, I just really like the idea of the holy warrior with angelic wings thing right now, so thats what I was going for.

Go lesser Aasimar. It is Aasimar with 0 LA, and is a humanoid instead of native outsider. It is kinda like a buff for -1 LA. Although I have never considered Aasimar worth the 1 LA.

[2xMachina]

^

And if you don't mind +2 la, go Saint. And that template works better with Lesser Aasimar than Aasimar anyway (redundant abilities, and Outsiders can't be Saints). And you get the outsider native type back.

So, for a total of +1 la, get immunities to 3 energy, more resistance to fire, some Su abilities, more +Cha Wis. (Also needs 3 exalted feats and lvl 6 though)

[Wabbajack]

There are the Infused Spellcaster/Warrior PrCs in Dragon Magazine 321, p19. They are basicly the same, Spellcaster gets spellcasting 5/10, d8 and good will save, warrior gets good BaB, good fort and d12.

They only need +2 will and BaB +4, you choose a good outsider from a list and get corresponding abilities and some other stuff. You can get wings as soon as 6th prc level.

[KillianHawkeye]

Is there any reason not to buy the Wings of Flying rather than the LA templates? Speed/maneuverability might not be so good, and costs 54k, but it's just trading $$$ for flight. Not sure, but it doesn't actually takes a slot too right?

Wings of Flying is a cloak, so it uses the shoulders slot.

[Stone Heart]

Thanks for all the help guys, I think I am going to either use the Winged Template or the Saint Template way of doing it now.

[nekomata2]

Go lesser Aasimar. It is Aasimar with 0 LA, and is a humanoid instead of native outsider. It is kinda like a buff for -1 LA. Although I have never considered Aasimar worth the 1 LA.

Then how do you feel about the Tiefling?

[Gorbash]

Thanks for all the help guys, I think I am going to either use the Winged Template or the Saint Template way of doing it now.

Why not just take Celestial Bloodline and Outsider wings? Waaaaay cheaper then +2 LA, which combined with your already +1 is insanely not worth it.

[Stone Heart]

Why not just take Celestial Bloodline and Outsider wings? Waaaaay cheaper then +2 LA, which combined with your already +1 is insanely not worth it.

When I last posted I had not been able to find that book, so I wasn't looking at it too much, but now that I found it you might be right that is a good one.

Edit: of course I also have to take to the gm about this

[Xenogears]

If you're an Evil Aasimar Cleric you can get Feathered Wings as a Fiendish graft (Fiend Folio, page 210) for 10,000 gp.

Technically you don't hafta be evil. If your nuetral you turn evil but if your good you only go mad through ability damage. So if your somehow immune to wisdom damage then you can get the graft as an exalted character and not suffer any ill effects. The Fleshwarper from Lords of Madness can gain the ability to do fiendish grafts without being a fiend or evil so you don't even need to compromise your morals by buying stuff from evil people.

[Thurbane]

If you take a dip in Binder, or take the Bind Vestige feats, you can bind Dahlver-Nar and get immunity to Wisdom damage, Wisdom drain, madness and insanity effects.

Speaking of binding, the vestige Andras gives you two grey feathered wings as his sign, but you can't fly with them.

[Xenogears]

If you take a dip in Binder, or take the Bind Vestige feats, you can bind Dahlver-Nar and get immunity to Wisdom damage, Wisdom drain, madness and insanity effects.

Cool. Now i can finally have my VoP character with wings. Just got to take the vow after I get 10k gp.

[Dixieboy]

I think it's a 3rd Edition book, but there's a feat in Races of Faerun called Outsider Wings that let you grow wings and fly at your land speed with average manoeuvrability. The prereqs are to be an aasimar or tiefling, have the Celestial/Fiendish Bloodline feat (whichever applies to your chosen race) and all of your base saves have to be at least +2.

Again, I'm not sure if the book's still valid or not.

Same book also has a feat that lets you shoot laserbeams out your eyes.

I just wanted to bring that up.

[Xenogears]

Same book also has a feat that lets you shoot laserbeams out your eyes.

I just wanted to bring that up.

..... I hate you. Now I need another book and I still don't have any money. Why do you want to force people into robbing banks to fund their addictions. WHY??!

[taltamir]

OP, enter the "refluff"... take something that grants you wings. refluff said wings to be angelic, if needed, make a copy of the entire process, class, feat, whatever and replace every aspect of fluff with fluff that suits your desire.


..... I hate you. Now I need another book and I still don't have any money. Why do you want to force people into robbing banks to fund their addictions. WHY??!

check your library

[Xenogears]

check your library

.......not likely to be there. Half the time I want to read a regular book they hafta request it from some other library so no chance they'd have a DnD book and I doubt that most of the libraries it links to wont have one either.

[Sinfire Titan]

This is what I was looking for. I knew I'd seen it somewhere.

How to Get Wings.



Unfortunately, the Ratoran, +LA templates and the Favoured Soul are the only ones that gain feathered wings (not including items/grafts). IIRC the rest are Draconic or Demonic/Bat-like.

Flavor, and thus mutable. Nothing is stopping a Dragonborn from having Feathery wings, save for the DM. And there's at least one species of Dragon in DnD that has feathers.

[taltamir]

.......not likely to be there. Half the time I want to read a regular book they hafta request it from some other library so no chance they'd have a DnD book and I doubt that most of the libraries it links to wont have one either.

check the other library from which your library always requests books? :)

[Xenogears]

check the other library from which your library always requests books? :)

possibly. unlikely but possible. I should try at some point...

[2xMachina]

Thanks for all the help guys, I think I am going to either use the Winged Template or the Saint Template way of doing it now.

Saint doesn't actually give you wings. It's very powerful for it's LA though.

I'd 2nd the Celestial Bloodline, Outsider Wings. 2 feats, and you get wings. (with Saint on, cause Saint is awesome. That'll be 5 feats though)

[ShadowFighter15]

Same book also has a feat that lets you shoot laserbeams out your eyes.

I just wanted to bring that up.

Wait, what? Where?

[Mr.Bookworm]

Wait, what? Where?

Assuming he's thinking of what I'm thinking of, it's called Eyes of Light, and it's far less awesome than it sounds.

You can fire a ray "searing light" from your eyes as a Sp ability, but you can only do this once per day, because you burn the Aasimar's 1/day use of Light to use it.

In addition to being an Aasimar, you have to pick up the Celestial Bloodline feat.

So yeah, you're probably better off just grabbing Warlock and firing Eldritch Blasts from your eyes.

[Eldariel]

Outsider Wings should be a solid way of doing it. Strongly suggest that; it's specifically written for Aasimar and Tieflings to gain Wings related to their heritage (in Aasimars' case, Angelic).

[taltamir]

Outsider Wings should be a solid way of doing it. Strongly suggest that; it's specifically written for Aasimar and Tieflings to gain Wings related to their heritage (in Aasimars' case, Angelic).

where can I find outsider wings? is it a feat?

[Longcat]

Yes, it's a feat from Races of Faerun.

[Xenogears]

Assuming he's thinking of what I'm thinking of, it's called Eyes of Light, and it's far less awesome than it sounds.

You can fire a ray "searing light" from your eyes as a Sp ability, but you can only do this once per day, because you burn the Aasimar's 1/day use of Light to use it.

In addition to being an Aasimar, you have to pick up the Celestial Bloodline feat.

So yeah, you're probably better off just grabbing Warlock and firing Eldritch Blasts from your eyes.

You can also get the fire eye from an Eye of Fear and Flame grafted in replace of one of your eyes. 10d6 fireball once per day IIRC. Something like 20k gp maybe?

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Why go to all that trouble? Ocular Spell. Fire anything out of your eyes.

[Xenogears]

Why go to all that trouble? Ocular Spell. Fire anything out of your eyes.

Non-caster? It, for some stupid reason, by the grafting rules is non-magical so AMF's don't matter? Because I can beat up a skelaton, rip its ruby eyes out, shove them into my sockets, and gain heat vision?

[Ravens_cry]

Use Alter Self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/alterSelf.htm)to turn yourself into a Raptoran?
Probably the cheapest method.

[Ashram]

I would say Wish, but you're probably too low level for that.

[Stone Heart]

I finally got the chance to look through all the options in there books, and I took the Outsider wings way, its the easiest. Thanks again for all the help.