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TheYoungOne
2010-01-07, 08:26 AM
Need help with making age catagories for the Tarrasque.
I have this idea of an evil cult raising up small Tarrasques (Which they got through magic :smallbiggrin:) to destroy the world.
I'm thinking about maybe 6 age catagories, so the adventurers would face progressivly difficult versions of the Tarrasque clones.

Any ideas are appreciated, and true gratification to the one that can make it :smallwink:

dsmiles
2010-01-07, 09:14 AM
GAAAAHHHH!!! :smalleek:

I remember when the Tarrasque was THE Tarrasque, and it was a unique monster.

Thrawn183
2010-01-07, 09:21 AM
You could have Tarling (like wyrmling) Tarrasques just be trolls.

TheYoungOne
2010-01-07, 09:23 AM
That's why the adventurers should destroy the Taqrrasques while they're small (and before they find some way of reproducing naturally :smalltongue:)

Lappy9000
2010-01-07, 10:36 AM
I remember when the Tarrasque was THE Tarrasque, and it was a unique monster.As of the 3.5 and 4e Monster Manuals, the monster is still listed as the tarrasque. Old AD&D Spelljammer had a planet of tarrasques, so you should say "I remember when the tarrasque wasn't a unique monster" :smallamused:

Granted, this is D&D, so there isn't any real restriction on such a thing. Back on topic, why don't you just steal one of the dragon aging tables? Just use one that reaches colossal size (like Red Dragon).

Primal Fury
2010-01-07, 12:17 PM
It's rather amusing to consider that the current version of the the Tarrasque is the smaller version. :smallamused:

The Tygre
2010-01-07, 05:43 PM
Heh, where have you all been? Back in Spelljammer, it was revealed that there was a whole planet of nothing -but Tarrasques-. On that note, shameless DF plug;

Baby Tarrasque (http://dicefreaks.superforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=260&start=60)

Juvenile Tarrasque (http://dicefreaks.superforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=260&start=61)

Mature Tarrasque (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/tarrasque.htm) (The one in the Monster Manual.)

Elder Tarrasque (http://dicefreaks.superforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=260&start=62)

The Mama Tarrasque (http://dicefreaks.superforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5&start=77)

Touchy
2010-01-07, 06:09 PM
As of the 3.5 and 4e Monster Manuals, the monster is still listed as the tarrasque. Old AD&D Spelljammer had a planet of tarrasques, so you should say "I remember when the tarrasque wasn't a unique monster" :smallamused:

Granted, this is D&D, so there isn't any real restriction on such a thing. Back on topic, why don't you just steal one of the dragon aging tables? Just use one that reaches colossal size (like Red Dragon).

Actually in 4e there are multible, they just belong to different planes, so for all purposes, it's The Tarrasque.

Each plane gets 1 Tarrasque.

If I remember my short read of the lower planes correctly.

mr.fizzypop
2010-01-07, 10:57 PM
The Mama Tarrasque (http://dicefreaks.superforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=5&start=77)

100d10 Hit Dice!? 100 regeneration!? Titanic size!? Wasn't the original strong enough?

How big is Titanic anyway?

Latronis
2010-01-07, 11:01 PM
100d10 Hit Dice!? 100 regeneration!? Titanic size!? Wasn't the original strong enough?

How big is Titanic anyway?

Twice collosal I imagine.

i'm kinda partial to the 30-headed Tarrasque (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eo/20070608a)

Zexion
2010-01-07, 11:08 PM
Titanic=
You may know it as either Colosal+ or Megafine.
Length: 128-256 ft.
Weight: 1,000-16,000 tons

And: My campaign is very high epic (lvls 631-651), and the Mother Tarrasqe would not pose a challenge for the PCs. The fighter in the group has over 10,000 hp thanks to a high Constitution and 646d10 base hit dice. Oh, and they are full-on gods, as well. I forgot to mention that.
I think the problem with d&d is nobody works out any really good challenges for high level characters... so...
What about a full-on god Tarrasque. Divine abilities... it would pose a relative challenge to the gods similar to the challenge a Tarrasque poses to a 5th level bard (which, incidentally, would be the funniest and shortest encounter ever)

The Tygre
2010-01-07, 11:18 PM
Twice collosal I imagine.

i'm kinda partial to the 30-headed Tarrasque (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eo/20070608a)

I see your Tarrasque-hydra and raise you Lavos (http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Brobdingnagian_Teratoid_Tarrasque).

EDIT: @Zexion Ya' mean like THIS?!?!

Demented
2010-01-07, 11:30 PM
What about a full-on god Tarrasque. Divine abilities... it would pose a relative challenge to the gods similar to the challenge a Tarrasque poses to a 5th level bard (which, incidentally, would be the funniest and shortest encounter ever)

Unless its abilities are:

Immune to Magic (Incl. Wish, Miracle)
Immune to Epic
Immune to Alter Reality
Immune to Ability Drain
Does 30d6 Constitution Drain per Attack


It doesn't stand a chance.

Latronis
2010-01-07, 11:40 PM
I see your Tarrasque-hydra and raise you Lavos (http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Brobdingnagian_Teratoid_Tarrasque).

EDIT: @Zexion Ya' mean like THIS?!?!

:'( (http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Special:SearchByProperty?title=Special:SearchByPro perty&property=Challenge+Rating&value=1337)

Lappy9000
2010-01-08, 12:04 AM
I see your Tarrasque-hydra and raise you Lavos (http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Brobdingnagian_Teratoid_Tarrasque). [/B]I'll fold.

Latronis
2010-01-08, 12:14 AM
could use a few extra heads....

The Tygre
2010-01-08, 12:46 AM
could use a few extra heads....

How would that even work? Lavos doesn't really have a head to begin with. He's got kind of a beak or sucker.



I'll fold.

Ahh. And I wanted to pull out my trump card (http://www.enworld.org/forum/2873260-post1.html).

Lappy9000
2010-01-08, 02:18 AM
Ahh. And I wanted to pull out my trump card (http://www.enworld.org/forum/2873260-post1.html).Yeeeeah. Glad I got out when I did :smalleek:

The-Mage-King
2010-01-08, 10:11 AM
Hm... Tell me, have you read about the Tarrasque based (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/20069481/Tarrasque-based_city?pg=1)city? Maybe you could use the 'Esquer for some of the cultists...

Callos_DeTerran
2010-01-08, 12:39 PM
Hm... Tell me, have you read about the Tarrasque based (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/20069481/Tarrasque-based_city?pg=1)city? Maybe you could use the 'Esquer for some of the cultists...

That's not the first place to come up with the idea of a tarrasque based city actually, and from the time stamp it came after the other which explored the city much more fully. Or at least how it worked, last I checked (admittedly a while ago) there was very little hard stats connected to it.

The-Mage-King
2010-01-08, 12:46 PM
We've put some effort into making it more viable.

Elixir of Regeneration, anyone?

TheYoungOne
2010-01-08, 01:33 PM
Sorry that I took so long to answer, been pretty busy :smalltongue:

@The Tygre: I like the Tarrasques, but I was thinking of starting with them as a CR 6 thing and move them slowly up to 20. I'm thinking the cultists did some ritual to make around 10-20 tiny Tarrasques, then spread out, forcing the heroes to go all over the place to kill the little buggers. And, of course, the little buggers gradually get bigger, until they have to face off with a mature one. And if they fail, well...
You get the idea.
One thing I'm wondering about, shouldn't the Carapace slowly get tougher?
The only thing that changes with the baby to mature carapaces is that the chance of deflecting it back at the caster increases.
Just wondering.

@The-Mage-King: I loved the Tarrasque based city. That gives me a perfect niche to put the cult in. Then I'm thinking that the cultists would bring back the other Tarrasques ( it feels weird to say it :smalltongue: ) to set their father (mother? brother ? :smallconfused: ) free.

As for the other Tarrasques ( 30 headed, Mama, etc.) I was only thinking of taking this to lvl 20 :smallwink:

However, if I ever need an instant TPK, I'll know who to ask :smallbiggrin:

Alex112524
2010-01-08, 01:46 PM
I see your Tarrasque-hydra and raise you Lavos (http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Brobdingnagian_Teratoid_Tarrasque).

EDIT: @Zexion Ya' mean like THIS?!?!

This guy has some touch AC, I'd like to see someone with Wraithstrike up use Avalanche of Blades on this fella :smallbiggrin:

The Tygre
2010-01-08, 02:10 PM
@ YoungOne

Ah, I get you. Something more like a dragon or a Ravenloft vampire. That does seem more logical. Maybe we could use the DFs as bases or comparisons.

TheYoungOne
2010-01-08, 02:40 PM
I know that there are systems for creating custom monsters that are exactly what I'm looking for; too bad I suck at using them. I've tried a few times, but when player testing, they always fall apart (too strong or too weak)

If anyone is up to it, I need a few challange ratings, but it should be fairly gradual, with maybe 2-3 CR steps
(CR 6 - 8 - 11 - 13 - 16 - 18 and 20 should be gradual enough for heroes crossing half a continent :smalltongue:)

Here's hoping that someone with nothing to do stumbles onto this :smallwink:

Lysander
2010-01-08, 03:25 PM
If you're going to have a lot of tarrasques perhaps only one of them should be able to attain full adulthood at a time, and only the lone adult tarrasque doesn't die at -10 hp and needs wish to be killed.

Younger tarrasque continually hunt and attack the single mature tarrasque hoping to replace it. Young tarrasque can cast wish as a spell-like ability but only for the purposes of keeping an adult tarrasque dead after bringing it to 0. Any tarrasque that kills the adult instantly matures into the adult.

TheYoungOne
2010-01-08, 03:40 PM
@ Lysander: I like the idea, it makes a lot of sense. However, the point of the adventure will be for the adventurers to catch the multiple Tarrasques and kill them before they fully mature.
It would probably fit in another adventure...

The Tarrasque, after sleeping for a 100 years, suddenly starts terrorizing the countryside, apparantly crazed from pain. At the height of his agony, his body splits, spilling out multiple smaller Tarrasques, who start fighting amongst themselves and eating evrything in sight. As the small ones grow and their battles shake the earth and destroying cities, the question remains...
What will be left for the victor...

Zexion
2010-01-08, 06:57 PM
How about the Lavos, but with the multi-headed template AND immunity to divine magic (other than miracle). In the party we have a 40th lvl sorcerer, 40th lvl cleric, 520th lvl mystic theurge who had Divine Rank 25 (and he isn't even the strongest PC)... so... that should be good.