Knifeficer (Knife + Artificer)

[Overshee]

I know there's a build for an archerficer, but how viable is a knife throwing artificer. Can you enhance throwing knives in bundles? The main reason I want to do this is for iaijutsu focus, it's a lot easier to throw a hidden knife every turn than a hidden bow...

What are your thoughts?
Overshee

[FishAreWet]

Iajutsu is melee only

[Foryn Gilnith]

It's ambiguous, by RAW. You draw a melee weapon (a knife), and then make an attack with it. OA does not specify what the attack type has to be.

[Boci]

It's ambiguous, by RAW. You draw a melee weapon (a knife), and then make an attack with it. OA does not specify what the attack type has to be.

Would throwing stars work?

[FishAreWet]

It's ambiguous, by RAW. You draw a melee weapon (a knife), and then make an attack with it. OA does not specify what the attack type has to be.

Really? I stand corrected.

That means that ANYTHING can be drawn because anything can be used as a melee weapon, you just take improvised weapon penalties.

[Foryn Gilnith]

There is a specific table in the PHB for "melee weapon". Improvised weapons aren't on it.
But since Iaijutsu doesn't state you have to use the weapon you drew to make the attack, you're correct.

This is RAWtarded anyway. The details of Iaijutsu Focus are not for us to decide. That's the OP's GM's job.

[Overshee]

So it seems it's a yes on being able to use knives. I suppose I could craft a bunch of returning knives so I wouldn't run out. I still wouldn't be able to use my infusions on them as a whole, which is a bummer...

[Boci]

Maybe develop a sheath that produces an infinate amount of +1 daggers, but each one only lasts for 1 round? Then which quick draw you should be set. The only problem would be pricing the dam thing.

[olentu]

Maybe develop a sheath that produces an infinate amount of +1 daggers, but each one only lasts for 1 round? Then which quick draw you should be set. The only problem would be pricing the dam thing.

Well I recall a glove that makes endless force javelins so one could start with that. Though I also recall something with a dagger but there were some limitations I can not remember at the moment.

[Foryn Gilnith]

MIC p194 has Gloves of Endless Javelins. 7K gp, does that except with javelins. Talk with your GM to fiddle around with infusions and stuff.

[olentu]

MIC p194 has Gloves of Endless Javelins. 7K gp, does that except with javelins. Talk with your GM to fiddle around with infusions and stuff.

Ah those are the ones I was remembering.

[Overshee]

Would you guys recommend this OVER archeficer? Not sure what build I wanna do (melee, ranged, blaster...)...

[Deth Muncher]

Nono, not any weapon. I specifically remember it only working with bladed weapons.

PS - Gnome Quickrazor: let's you draw it as a free action.

[Kyrthain]

Also from MIC is Gauntlet of infinite blades. 6500 gp, you can create infinite daggers that last 3 rounds, and you have some daily charges to make the daggers get cool properties (+3, seeking, bane)

[Bayar]

Better go with bow. Infuse the bow with something and the arrow with something else. Craft only one magic bow instead of several magic daggers. Shoot from a greater distance. Hell, the base damage of a bow is higher than that of a dagger. And there are several ways to shoot in melee without triggering AoO's.

[Overshee]

Better go with bow. Infuse the bow with something and the arrow with something else. Craft only one magic bow instead of several magic daggers. Shoot from a greater distance. Hell, the base damage of a bow is higher than that of a dagger. And there are several ways to shoot in melee without triggering AoO's.

Knife was for iaijutsu focus for the extra damage that provides

[Zaq]

I'm pretty sure that the Gauntlet of Infinite Blades requires a swift action to activate, which means that you only get one per round. If you want to make more than one attack per round (which you do, right? Right?), you'll need something else.

[Overshee]

I'm still learning magic item creation rules, but would it be possible to craft a bandoleer that "minor creation"s x knives in the sheathes (also a place to store wands)?