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Goonthegoof
2010-01-27, 02:21 AM
I was looking at the Arcane Sword's ability to make a swordmage encounter power into an at will power, and I absolutely love the look of Dimensional Charge.
The character I'm building isn't a swordmage and the multiclass power rules really confuse me so the question is this- Is there any way to get both the Arcane Sword epic destiny and the Dimensional Charge level 27 swordmage power on an avenger?

Pramxnim
2010-01-27, 02:39 AM
Simple. Take a multiclass Swordmage feat (available from the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide or Arcane Power). Then at level 28, take the feat Acolyte Power to swap one of your Avenger level 27 Encounter Attack Powers with the power in question. At level 30, you can get to use that power as an At-Will. Done and done!

Inyssius Tor
2010-01-27, 02:57 AM
Simple. Take a multiclass Swordmage feat (available from the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide or Arcane Power). Then at level 28, take the feat Acolyte Power to swap one of your Avenger level 27 Encounter Attack Powers with the power in question. At level 30, you can get to use that power as an At-Will. Done and done!

Alternatively, you could retrain one of your other feats for Acolyte Power at level 27... and then proceed as above.

Goonthegoof
2010-01-27, 03:11 AM
I love you guys!

Goonthegoof
2010-01-27, 04:42 AM
Extra question: In the rules it says when you push they have to move away from you. If you are north east of them, can you push them south east? In terms of number of squares needed to move they'd still be moving away, but I'm not sure.

Kurald Galain
2010-01-27, 05:06 AM
Extra question: In the rules it says when you push they have to move away from you. If you are north east of them, can you push them south east?
Yes.

Some DMs require that you push them in a more-or-less straight line, but by the literal rules you can also push them in zigzag patterns as long as each square is farther from you than the previous one.

Inyssius Tor
2010-01-27, 05:12 AM
Extra question: In the rules it says when you push they have to move away from you. If you are north east of them, can you push them south east? In terms of number of squares needed to move they'd still be moving away, but I'm not sure.

Like, from


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--W--
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to


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M-W--
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(where W is for Wizard and M is for Monster)?

Yep. You can think of distance as a sequence of concentric boxes radiating out from you, like



444444444
433333334
432222234
432111234
4321W1234
432111234
432222234
433333334
444444444


If you push a guy, each square has to be in the next box outward and adjacent to the previous square he was in (diagonals count), but that's it.

(Pulling works in the same way, except inward instead of outward. A lot of people rule that charging works like that, as well.)