Loopholes and Wormholes: Diplomacy

[thewamp]

Spring 1901

Something is rotten in the continent of Europe. Something is wrong. No one is quite sure when it happened. A Frenchman traveling in Italy got news of things happening in Italy that simply weren't, but who knew how long after the Change that was. Fortunately, it was peacetime, for the moment, or things really might have gotten chaotic. Still, no one knew "when", but the question of "what", had been solved.

There were two Europes. Inexplicably, impossibly, there were two, complete with duplicates of every state. These "doppelgangers" as they came to be known, these ghostly doubles were eerily similar, though for an unknown reason, the leaders' doppelgangers, while looking the same, had different names.

And then Europe heated up. War had been coming before the Change and it wasn't to be stopped. Fortunately, each leader had found someone they could stand by, some leader who they could trust. One voice in many made complete sense and seven alliances were formed, seven pacts made.

But as war drew nearer, no one really knew what victory even meant, because the biggest question of all was which was the original Europe and which the double.

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9742/rootzs1901m.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Rus2
Also, you can go here (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/191/rootzmap.jpg) if you want to see a version without the units, to more clearly see location names.

Austria1 - Scrapjack
England1 - Moody the Wise
France1 - Maldiem
Germany1 - Vexen
Italy1 - Moody the Wise
Russia1 - viggo
Turkey1 - Maldiem

Austria2 - girtleaf
England2 - girtleaf
France2 - Vexen
Germany2 - viggo
Italy2 - Splodgey
Russia2 - Splodgey
Turkey2 - Scrapjack

Now check in as your world leaders and get diplomating!

Spring 1901 Orders due Sunday, February 28 at 10PM EST (GMT-5)

PS: There's absolutely no requirement, but you might find it convenient for me to be able to remind you about order deadlines and such on IM. If you like, you can PM me your IM name. If you don't think you want me bothering you, don't.

[viggo]

Kaitsar Viggo checking in.

(kaiser+tsar, har har har. ky-zar is how i'd pronounce it. Also, I'm having serious difficulty coming up with a name for the combination of two countries that have been enemies for a long, long time.)

[thewamp]

two countries that have been enemies for a long, long time.

No, that was totally the *other* germany that was enemies with your russia. :smallwink:

To be absolutely clear to everyone, by the way: your two countries are separate. You may not forsake a build in one to build in another. You *may* dislodge one country's units from the other. Etc.

[viggo]

you can forgo builds so i get them though

[Moody the Wise]

Cheerio, good chaps! I can be reached on AIM (LondonWerewolf6) (preferred) or by PM here (also acceptable). That is, if you ever find yourself wishing to discuss the terms of your eventual surrender. :smalltongue:

[Scrapjack]

Turkey/Austria signing on with only one thing to say: Holy ****, how did I get stuck with fighting for both the balkans?

[Vexen]

Kaiser Vex reporting for the true German Empire. You may reach me via PM here preferably.

Président de la république, Xen reports here also. Though our PM address is the same as the Kaiser we assure you that is merely a coincidence.

[thewamp]

Turkey/Austria signing on with only one thing to say: Holy ****, how did I get stuck with fighting for both the balkans?

That would be the python function randint() :smallwink:

[girtleaf]

dotted English austria ready to prod some buttock

[Splodgey]

The real Italy/Russia here, PM me here preferably =]

[Maldiem]

The French and the Turkish are ready to go, just as soon as we figure out how we ended up together. I know...

Turkey and France Form Anti-Hackneyed Puns Union

"We're just so sick of people thinking "Turkish Delights" every time they think of Turkey. We've done other things! We fought off the crusades, invented the Lateen sail, and made lots of advances in mathematics! Knock it off already!"

The French Ambassador echoed the Turkish sentiment, "And we do things other than drink wine and surrender. I mean, come on, the Franco-Prussian war could have gone better, but its not like we've lost two world wars or anything. Give us a break."

The FaTAHPU claims that "Our governments are united in their determination to take all necessary measures to root out puns, and destroy stereotypes in the modern world".

[Scrapjack]

Turkey and Austria: Wait, shouldn't we be fighting bitterly to the death?

In a moment of utter confusion today, Turkey and Austria entered into an alliance rather than attempting to kill each other over the Balkans. Mainly because the Balkans that this specific Turkey and Austria are neighboring are thousands of miles away from each other.

One would think it to be a lot simpler to just call them different things. But that leads to even more confusing thoughts, like which one should keep the name the Balkans. Perhaps there should be a war between the two regions to determine that.

On top of that, why are there multiple nations with the same name? Why is France 1 number 1 and France 2 number 2? The world we live in is a major headache.

[viggo]

Kaitsar Viggo delighted by Turkish newspapers!

[thewamp]

This is your 28 hour warning
Great deeds are afoot dear reader, great deeds.

[thewamp]

Well, the story is that there's still two sets of orders outstanding. In future turns, I'd just NMR them, but for the first turn, I prefer to make sure we have orders, since if we have to move onto replacements, they would be pretty crippled by a first turn NMR. This does mean a slight delay, my apologies.

[Moody the Wise]

Well, the story is that there's still two sets of orders outstanding. In future turns, I'd just NMR them, but for the first turn, I prefer to make sure we have orders, since if we have to move onto replacements, they would be pretty crippled by a first turn NMR. This does mean a slight delay, my apologies.

I'd be happy to submit orders on their behalf. Or, perhaps, on Irritable the Enlightened's behalf.

[thewamp]

I'd be happy to submit orders on their behalf. Or, perhaps, on Irritable the Enlightened's behalf.

Unfortunately for Irritable the Enlightened we already have 2 backups lined up. If I don't hear from people, we should have no trouble getting going quickly, though we might lose a week.

Those who haven't submitted orders have until Tuesday at 10pm EST to avoid being kicked out.
If that seems harsh, I'm sorry, but we can't wait forever.

[viggo]

got mine in, sorry, internet was out at the girl's house.

[thewamp]

Spring 1901
So it seems having orders due on the weekend is a problem. We'll avoid that from now on then. Will anyone have a problem making monday? Also, for those of you having trouble reading names of locations underneath your units, I'm going to put a link to a version of the map that's completely empty in the first post.

Orders
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4369/loopholesandwormholess1.jpg

New Map
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Rus2

Austria1 - Scrapjack
A Bud1 - Rum 1
F Tri1 Holds
A Vie1 - Bud 1

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Lon1-Eng1
F Edi1-Nth1
A Lvp1-Yor1

France1 - Maldiem
F Bre1 - Mao1
A Par1 - Gas1
A Mar1 - Bur1

Germany1 - Vexen
F Kie1 - Hol 1
A Mun1- Boh1
A Ber1 - Kie1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
A Ven1-Tyr1
A Rom1-Ven1
F Nap1-Ion1

Russia1 - viggo
a war1->gal1
f stp1->bot1
f sev1->bla1
a mos1->stp1

Turkey1 - Maldiem
A Con1 - Bul1
A Smy1 - Con1
F Ank1 - Bla1


Austria2 - girtleaf
A bud2 - ser2
A vie2 - bud2
F tri2 H

England2 - girtleaf
F edi2 - nwg2
F lon2 - nth2
A lvp2 - wal2

France2 - Vexen
F Bre2 - Mao2
A Par2 - Pic2
A Mar2 - Spa2

Germany2 - viggo
a mun2->ruh2
f kie2->hol2
a ber2->kie2

Italy2 - Splodgey
Fleet Nap 2 -> Move -> Ion 2
Army Rom 2 -> Move -> Nap 2
Army Ven 2 -> Hold -> Ven 2

Russia2 - Splodgey
Fleet Sev 2 -> Move -> Bla 2
Army War2 -> Move -> Gal 2
Army Mos 2 -> Move -> Ukr 2
Fleet Stp2 -> Move -> Bot 2

Turkey2 - Scrapjack
F Ank2 - Bla 2
A Smy2 - Arm 2
A Con2 - Bul 2

Fall 1901 Orders Due Monday at 10PM EST (GMT-5)

[viggo]

fellow diplomats, if we could be sure to put the numbers immediately after the province names in the future, that would be wonderful. jDip won't interpret them correctly if there's a space between them.

For example, tun1 is good, where bla 2 is bad. It'll just make everyone's lives easier. Way quicker to adjudicate all at once instead of going through and reformatting the orders or putting them in by hand.

Thanks!

[viggo]

Four-Fleet Pileup in Both Black Seas!

In a strange bit of coincidence, it seems that the Turks and the Russians hate each other no matter what dimension they call home. In an "unprecedented" and "historic" occasion, all four powers seem to want to control the Black Sea.

"Nothing like this has ever happened before," said Kommandant Tempestuous the Sage. "Fleets bouncing around like ping-pong balls in the Black Sea? It's never happened! Ever!"

[Vexen]

German Gazette -
England sails toward France, France moves toward Germany, and the Munich army visits Bohemian neighbors. It seems that Western Europe is in a free-for-all. Eastern Europe, on the other hand seem much more organized, all heading towards the same goal. Our sincerest condolences to Austria.
The French Flyer
French president denies existance of other Europe and refuses to acknowledge alledged Italian neighbors. We hear that Wales is nice this time of year, and our pleased to hear that the English Prime Minister has allowed his troops to station there despite rumors of imminent war in Europe. Anyone else have a hankering for waffles, it appears the Germans do.

[thewamp]

This is your 31 hour warning
So start sending in those orders!

[viggo]

True Russian Empire Prepares Scandinavian Ascendance Celebration

"It's been a long time since the people of Norway and Sweden were free from the tyrannical rule of the Vikings," said Foreign Minister Viggo Viggovich. "We really don't like Vikings. We're Packers fans, to tell you the truth. Or the Red Wings. Really all about the Red Wings. Sergei Federov is our national hero. But what we do like is freedom. And we're going to do our best to spread that freedom to our neighbors and their vaguely phallic countries."

[thewamp]

Fall 1901
Yay for freakishly on time results!

Orders
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg

New Map
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Rus2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Scrapjack
All Hold

England1 - Moody the Wise
A Yor1-Bel1
F Eng1 C A Yor1-Bel1
F Nth1 S A Yor1-Bel1

France1 - Maldiem
F Mao1 - Por1
A Gas1 - Spa1
A Bur1 S A Tyr1 - Mun1

Germany1 - Vexen
A Kie1 s Boh1 - Mun1
A Boh1 - Mun1
F Hol1 - Bel1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
A Ven1-Tri1
A Tyr1-Mun1
F Ion1-Tun1

Russia1 - viggo
a stp1 -> nor1
f sev1 -> bla1
f bot1 -> swe1
a gal1 -> vie1

Turkey1 - Maldiem
A Bul1 - Gre1
A Con1 - Bul1
F Ank1 - Bla1


Austria2 - girtleaf
A bud2 - vie2
A ser2 - bud2
F tri2 - ven2

England2 - girtleaf
F nwg2 - nwy2
A wal2 - lon2
F nth2 support pic2 - bel2

France2 - Vexen
A Spa2 hold
F Mao2 - Por2
A Pic2 - Bel2

Germany2 - viggo
a ruh2 -> bel2
a kie2 -> den2
f hol2 s a ruh2 -> bel2

Italy2 - Splodgey
Army Ven2 -> Hold Ven2
Army Nap2 -> Move -> Gre2
Fleet ion2 -> Convoy Army Nap2 -> Gre2

Russia2 - Splodgey
Army Gal2 -> Support Army Ukr2 -> Rum2
Army Ukr2 -> Move -> Rum2
Fleet Sev2 -> Hold -> Sev2
Fleet Bot2 -> Move -> Swe2

Turkey2 - Scrapjack
Army Armenia2 - Sevastopol2
All Else Hold

Builds
Austria1 - 0
Austria2 - 0
England1 - 1
England2 - 1
France1 - 2
France2 - 2
Germany1 - 1
Germany2 - 2
Italy1 - 1
Italy2 - 1
Russia1 - 3
Russia2 - 2
Turkey1 - 2
Turkey2 - 1

Winter 1901 Builds Due Friday March 12 Wednesday March 10 at 10PM EST (GMT-5)
Spring 1902 Orders Due Monday March 15 at 10PM EST (GMT-5)

[thewamp]

I'm terribly sorry, I was an idiot about when things are due. See the revisions in the above post

[thewamp]

Well, because I screwed up and put the wrong date the first time around, I can't exactly NMR anyone. If the last set of orders doesn't come in by friday though, there'll be an NMR.

[Vexen]

That's ok, if we get too many NMR we can just grab Charity and start over. I am sure that neither of the Austria's will mind.

[thewamp]

That's ok, if we get too many NMR we can just grab Charity and start over. I am sure that neither of the Austria's will mind.

Starting over would be silly. But yes, we could grab charity, or one of several others.

[thewamp]

Winter 1901

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4369/loopholesandwormholess1.jpg

Austria1 - Scrapjack
None

England1 - Moody the Wise
Build F Edi1

France1 - Maldiem
F Bre1
A Par1

Germany1 - Vexen
a Mun1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
Build F Rom1

Russia1 - viggo
a war1
f stp1/nc
a mos1

Turkey1 - Maldiem
F Con1
A Smy1


Austria2 - girtleaf
None

England2 - girtleaf
Build F edi 2

France2 - Vexen
A Mar2
F bre2

Germany2 - viggo
f kie2
a mun2

Italy2 - Splodgey
Build Fleet -> Nap2

Russia2 - Splodgey
Build Army -> Stp2
Build Army -> War2

Turkey2 - Scrapjack
Build F Con2

[thewamp]

Just a warning, I'm going somewhere with limited internet, meaning there's a possibility I don't get to do the 24 hour warning, and that the order results are somewhat delayed (probably not by more than 24 hours). Hopefully I'll have internet, but this is a possibility.

[thewamp]

Spring 1902
Charity, are you reading this?

Orders
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4369/loopholesandwormholess1.jpg

New Map
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4369/loopholesandwormholess1.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Rus2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Scrapjack
NMR

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Edi1-Nwg1
A Bel1-Hol1
F Nth1 S A Bel1-Hol1
F Eng1-Lon1

France1 - Maldiem
F Bre1-Eng1,
A Par1-Pic1,
A Bur1 - Ruh1
A Spa1 - Mar1
F Por1 - Spa1(SC)

Germany1 - Vexen
A Kie1 - Ruh1
F Hol1 - Bel1
A Mun1 S Boh1 - Tyr1
A Boh1 - Tyr 1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
F Tun1-Wes1
F Rom1-Tus1
A Tyr1-Mun1
A Ven1-Pie1

Russia1 - viggo
a war1 -> ukr1
a vie1 -> tyr1
f swe1 -> ska1
f stp1/nc -> bar1
f sev1 -> arm1
a mos1 -> sev1
a nor1 hold

Turkey1 - Maldiem
F Con1 - Bla1
F Ank1 Support A Smy1 - Arm1
A Smy1 - Arm1
A Gre1 - Ser1
A Bul1 Support A Gre1 - Ser1



Austria2 - girtleaf
vie2 - gal2

England2 - girtleaf
nwy2 - bar2
edi2 - nth2
nth2 - ska2

France2 - Vexen
A Spa2 - Gas2
F Por2 - Spa2 (sc)
A Mar2 - Pie1
F Bre2 - Eng2
A Pic2 - Bur2

Germany2 - viggo
a ruh2 -> mun2
a mun2 -> ber2
f kie2 -> hel2
f hol2 -> nth2
a den2 -> kie2

Italy2 - Splodgey
Army ven2 -> Hold
Fleet ion2 -> Move -> tun2
Fleet nap2 -> Move -> tys2
Army gre2 -> Hold

Russia2 - Splodgey
Fleet swe2 -> Support Army stp2 -> Move -> nor2
Army stp2 -> Move -> nor2
Army gal2 -> support rum2 hold
Army rum2 -> Support gal2 hold
Fleet sev2 -> Hold
Army war2 -> Move -> sil2

Turkey2 - Scrapjack
NMR


Retreats!
F hol1 may disband or retreat to F hel1

Retreat Order due by Tuesday at 10PM, if possible, or 24 hours of this post at latest
Fall 1902 Orders due Thursday at 10PM
We're speeding up. If this is too fast and you want a delay, let me know. Otherwise, be ready to post retreats/builds by friday at 10PM

Also, Vexen, there's only one, so you can post your retreat in thread.

[Vexen]

"Run away, run away!"
German fleet forced to retreat to Hell! I mean hel1
(F Hol1 - Hel1)

[thewamp]

Heads up: unless someone minds, I'm not going to post new maps after retreat phases.

[viggo]

you said we had alternates, right? may I suggest a scrapjack replacement?

[Vexen]

A replacement may be a hard sell considering ScrapJack never had a good position. It would be great though if someone was willing.

[girtleaf]

hello i am not sure if i am pointing out the obvious but there is this thread to maybe find replacement(s) http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117808

[thewamp]

hello i am not sure if i am pointing out the obvious but there is this thread to maybe find replacement(s) http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117808

Heh. First Gitp diplomacy game. :smalltongue:

Yeah, I'll post over there if the few we've already got are disinterested.

EDIT: Forewarning: there may be a bit of a delay in finding Scrapjack's replacement and giving them a day to diplomat and such.

[Maldiem]

So orders aren't due tonight, then?

[Vexen]

No orders tonight? i'm good with that

[thewamp]

No indeed,

There is a 3 day extention
Fall 1902 Orders are now due Sunday at 10PM.
If you have a problem with weekend orders, let me know before the weekend.

[Robert Blackletter]

i'll take over snapjakes armies.

[thewamp]

We have our replacement. In order to give him plenty of time to talk to all of you, I'm setting the new, new order deadline date as

Fall 1902 Orders Due Monday at 10PM
My apologies for the delay. Replacing players, when it has to happen, will usually cause a delay.

[viggo]

Delay Caused by Poor Game Mastering!

Completely Absurd News is also reporting that "everything is just fine" in Balkans2 and Turkish fleets are sailing into the Barents Sea this season.

[thewamp]

This is your 21 hour warning

[Maldiem]

Russian Admiral Falls for Ruse. Sultan: "Booya."

New Turkish Fleet in Ankara Completes its Only Relevant Order

"Well, that was a fun 6 months," remarked the admiral of the fleet. He then points to his orders for the next year, written on the back of a napkin that had been folded into a paper airplane. "PARTY!!!" written in big red letters, with an obvious ring from the bottom of a beer mug overlaid across it.

"Its a good thing, too, because I hear the Black Sea is really crappy in winter. It sucks to be the first fleet-- having to actually go to sea."

Balkans2 are Getting All... Splodgey

"Its just completely gross," remarked a noted French political historian, "Historically the Balkans are a hard, unforgiving hellscape of war and hatred. Now, with Italy and Russia cooperating entirely, and Austria sitting around being mushy, the whole thing could start being a morass of peace, love and understanding. Also, an army exporter."

[thewamp]

Results will be out in no more than 10 hours. My apologies. But just for future reference, funny orders are awesome, but please *only* do them for units that are holding. It's confusing otherwise.

For that one person who is going to NMR if they don't get orders in ASAP, get orders in ASAP.

Others who have issues with their orders, you've been contacted. Normally I wouldn't give you leeway time, but there were just so many issues, I decided to give a tiny, tiny window of leeway.

[Vexen]

Wait, I didn't get a message. Does this mean I actually typed my orders right this time? :)

[thewamp]

Wait, I didn't get a message. Does this mean I actually typed my orders right this time? :)

Yep, no message meant you were good. Hold on, I'm finishing up.

[thewamp]

Fall 1902

Orders
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg

New Map
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Eng2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Nth1-Den1
F Nwg1-Nth1
F Lon1 S F Nwg1-Nth1
F Hol1-Hel1

France1 - Maldiem
A Bur1 Support A Hol1 - Ruh1
A Pic1 H
F Eng1 - Mao1
F Spa1(SC) - Lyo2
A Mar1 - Pie2

Germany1 - Vexen
F Hel1 - Den1
A Kie1 S Hel1 - Den1
A Mun1 - Ruh1
A Tyr1 - Mun1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
F Wes1-Spa2(sc)
F Tus1-Pie1
A Ven1 S F Tus1-Pie1

Russia1 - viggo
a vie1 -> tyr1
a ukr1 s a rum1
f ska1 -> den1
f sev1 -> bla1
a nor1 hold
a mos1 -> sev1
f bar1 -> nwg1

Turkey1 - Maldiem
A Bul1 - Rum1
A Ser1 Support Bul1 - Rum1
F Bla1 Support Bul1 - Rum1
A Arm1 - Sev1
F Ank H


Austria2 - girtleaf
vie2 - gal2
bud2 - rum2
tri2 - ven2

England2 - girtleaf
edt2 - nwg2
bar2 - stp2
ska2 - swe2

France2 - Vexen
F Spa2(sc) - Mao2
A Gas2 - Spa2
A Mar2 - Bur2
F Eng2 S Bur2 - Bel2
A Bur2 - Bel2

Germany2 - viggo
a mun2 -> boh2
a kie2 teleports to den2
f hol2 -> nth2
f hel2 s f hol2 -> nth2
a ber2 -> pru2

Italy2 - Splodgey
A Gre2 -> Move -> Bul2
F Tys 2-> Move -> Ion2
A Ven2 -> Hold
F Tun2 -> Hold

Russia2 - Splodgey
A Rum2 -> Support A Gre2-> Bul2
F Sev2 -> Hold
A Gal2 -> Support A Sil2 -> Hold
A Sil2 -> Hold
F Swe2 -> Support F Nor2 -> Hold
F Nor2 -> Support F Swe2 -> Hold

Turkey2 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

Builds!
France2 may build 1
Germany1 may build 1
Italy1 may build 1
Italy2 may build 1
Turkey1 may build 1

Winter 1902 Orders are due by Wednesday at 10PM
Spring 1903 Orders due Friday at 10PM
If this is too fast, let me know.

[Vexen]

First off, I will say I totally did not see this season playing out like this, not that I am complaining. Diplomacy moves never cease to surprise me.

German Gazette -
Underground resistance in Holland overthrow English invaders! Who new that the Dutch had it in them, let us just hope that the Danes prove to be as loyal. Russians find themselves in an early winter, all their troops seem frozen in place, maybe they will thaw come spring. Austrian forces miraculously hold their territory verses hostile invasion forces. It seems they do better without a leader. England steps into the Ruhr, that is a long way from home, I hope they know what they are doing, actually we don't. In a formal statement the Kaiser has declared; "France, will you please just leave us alone you are becoming quite a vexation."

French Flyer -
French President continues to deny existing of "other" Europe despite a strong showing of Italian 1 forces in the nearby Piedmont. England and Russia strengthen ties through an unprecedented foreign exchange program. I wonder if we could interest England with a similar country swap? Maybe we'll just step into London and ask the Prime Minister himself. Bulletin to Italy2 those are not our forces approaching your soft European Underbelly, at least I don't think they are, they claim to be French though so who knows.

[thewamp]

Winter 1902

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg

Germany 1 Builds
A Ber1

France 2 Builds
F Mar2

Turkey1: Build A Con1

I1: Build A Rom

I2: NMR

Reminder: Spring 1903 Orders due Friday at 10PM

[thewamp]

This is your 20 hour warning

[Vexen]

Weren't orders due 24 hrs ago? is there a delay until Monday?

[thewamp]

Yeah, they were. And then 3 order sets failed to come in, which is just too many for me to NMR and I gave a slight delay. I've contacted the people and at least some should get them in soon. Expect results soonish. Within 12 hours, anyway.

[thewamp]

Spring 1903
My apologies for the delay. In case it comes up again, by the way, I'm fine with late orders as long as you inform me of why you can't get them in on time, ahead of time. By which I mean, I can always push back deadlines at player's request. Please do request this though, so I know.

Orders
-Going to have to read the orders this time, sorry.

New Map
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2039/loopholesandwormholes2s.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Eng2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Nth1-Hol1
F Nwg1-Nth1
F Lon1 S F Nwg1-Nth1
A Ruh1-Mun1

France1 - Maldiem
A Pic1 - Bel1
A Bur1 Support A Ruh1 - Mun1
A Pie2 - Ven2
F Lyo2 - Tus2
F Mao1 - Spa1 (sc)

Germany1 - Vexen
F Den1 - Hel1
A Kie1 S Mun1 - Ruh1
A Ber1 S Tyr1 - Mun1
A Mun1 - Ruh1
A Tyr1 - Mun1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
A Ven1-Tyr1
F Pie1-Lyo1
A Rom1-Tus1
F Wes1 S F Pie1-Lyo1

Russia1 - viggo
a ukr1 supports f sev1->rum1
f ska1 supports f bar1->nor1
f sev1->rum1
a nor1->swe1
f bar1->nor1

Turkey1 - Maldiem
A Ser1 - Alb1
A Bul1 - Ser1
A Con1 - Bul1
F Bla1 - Sev1
A Arm1 Support F Bla1 - Sev1
F Ank1 - Con1


Austria2 - girtleaf
tri2 support ple2 -ven2
bud2 support vle2
vle2 support Bud2

England2 - girtleaf
ska2 -nth 2
nwg - edi2
stp2 - nwy2

France2 - Vexen
F Mao2 C Gas2 - Naf1
F Eng2 C Bel2 - Wal2
A Gas2 - Naf1
A Bel2 - Wal2
A Bur2 - Mar2
F Mar2 - Spa2 (sc)

Germany2 - viggo
a pru2->liv2
a boh2->gal2
a den2->yor2
f hel2->den2
f nth2 convoy a den2->yor2

Italy2 - Splodgey
NMR

Russia2 - Splodgey
NMR

Turkey2 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

Retreats!
Aus1 A Rum1 may disband or retreat to Gal1
Ita2 A Ven2 may disband or retreat to tyr2

Retreats due by Monday at 10PM
Fall 1903 Orders due by Wednesday at 10PM

[thewamp]

Both retreats are NMRs and disband.

[viggo]

predictable

[thewamp]

This is your 20 hour warning

[thewamp]

Fall 1903

Orders
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg

New Map
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Eng2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Hol1 S F Lon1-Nth1
A Ruh1 Hold
F Nth1-Den1
F Lon1-Nth1

France1 - Maldiem
F Tus2 - Rom2
A Ven2 H
F Spa1(SC) - wes2
A Bur1 Support A Ruh1
A Bel1 Support F Hol1

Germany1 - Vexen
F Hel1 - Hol1
A Kie1 S Hel1 - Hol1
A Ber1 S Tyr1 - Mun1
A Mun1 - Ruh1
A Tyr1 - Mun1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
A Tus1-Pie1
A Ven1 S A Tus1-Pie1
F Wes1 Hold
F Lyo1 S F Wes1 Hold

Russia1 - viggo
a vie1 s a alb1->tri1
a ukr1 s f rum1
a swe1 -> den1
f ska1 -> nth1
f nor1 -> nwg1
a mos1 -> sev1

Turkey1 - Maldiem
A Arm1 Support Sev1 H
F Sev1 H
F Con1 - Aeg1
A Bul1 - Rum1
A Alb1 - Tri1
A Ser1 Support A Alb1 - Tri1


Austria2 - girtleaf
bud2 - rum2
vie2 - gal2

England2 - girtleaf
stp2 - nwy2
ska2 -nth2
edi2 support ska2 - nth2

France2 - Vexen
F Spa2 (sc) - Wes1
A Naf1 - Tun1
F Mao2 S Spa2 (sc) - Wes1
F Eng2 S Wal2 - Lon2
A Wal2 - Lon2
A Mar2 - Spa2

Germany2 - viggo
a yor2->lvp2
f nth2->bel2
a lvn2->mos2
f den2->nth2
a boh2->gal2

Italy2 - Splodgey
NMR

Russia2 - Splodgey
NMR

Turkey2 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

Retreats!
Eng2 A lon2 may disband or retreat to yor2
Aus1 F tri1 may disband or retreat to adr1

Builds - assuming retreats are taken
Austria1 must disband 1
England2 must disband 2
France1 may build 3
France2 may build 1
Germany1 must disband 1
Germany2 may build 3
Italy1 must disband 1
Russia2 must disband 1
Turkey1 may build 2

Retreats due by Friday at 10PM
Builds due by Saturday at 10PM
Spring 1904 Orders due by Tuesday at 10PM

[Vexen]

doesn't France2 get 2 builds?
Oh never mind

[thewamp]

doesn't France2 get 2 builds?
Oh never mind

7 territories, 6 units (one hidden behind a british one, admittedly...)

[viggo]

German Fleet Accidentally Sails Into Belgium!

[Maldiem]

Accidental Taking of Belgium Contagious!

It seems that its catching, and disease experts in France today declared that they'd discovered the virus responsible-- the insidious bug causes generals and admirals to bark "INVADE BELGIUM", until collapsing and bleeding through their ears. The scientists named it Prussian Syndrome, because though the first case was clearly among French admirals, the alternate Germans first brought it to worldwide attention.

"Yes." Remarked one French diplomat, explaining the actions in London, "Totally that. It was definitely a virus that did it."

French Troops Liberate Duplicate Italy, Remove Giant Grey Specks

"They were everywhere!" explained a French demolition team, "just all over the landscape in some freaky grid pattern. Its especially weird because that's the only way we can tell duplicate Italy apart from the real thing! Its like someone wanted to be able to tell each Italy apart from very, very high up in the air! Good job we blew them all up."

Large Sections of World 2 Experience Civil Disorder!

It looks like the "other" world, as French and Turkish diplomats have come to calling it, has experienced an existential crisis. Perhaps this is linked with the giant grey boulders peppering the landscape, which, no doubt, interfere with agriculture and economic functions a great deal. When asked for comment, a French general said, "Don't worry, world 2, we're coming to clear away the boulders!"

[thewamp]

Whoops, forgot to post.

Retreats!
F tri1 disbands
lon2 retreats - yor2

[thewamp]

Builds!

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/3108/loopholesandwormholesf1l.jpg

France1
B F Bre1
B A Mar1
B A Par1

Germany1
D A tyr1

Italy1
D A ven1

Turkey1
B F smy1
B A con1

England2
D A yor2
D A stp2

France2
B A par2

Germany2
B A mun2
B A ber2
B F kie2

Russia2
Autodisband Swe2

[Vexen]

Can you list what the builds are i have difficulty distinguishing between fleets and armies on the map

[viggo]

russia2 has one too many units

[thewamp]

I'm going to edit that post above.

[Vexen]

so SWE2 is now vacant? do we get an updated map? I'm ok without it i am just asking for clarity

[thewamp]

so SWE2 is now vacant? do we get an updated map? I'm ok without it i am just asking for clarity

Yes, swe2 is now vacant. By the way, I'm going to be starting another game soon, hopefully without people NMRing all over the place and screwing with things. Point being, if you want to be in, PM me and I'll save you a spot, you all being plainly good about getting things in on time. This one will be standard, btw.

[Vexen]

ahh, i was thinking of hosting one in may. Guess I'll just have to play instead :)

[thewamp]

ahh, i was thinking of hosting one in may. Guess I'll just have to play instead :)

No, if you were thinking, I could definitely wait my turn. :smallsmile:

This is your 21 Hour Warning

[Maldiem]

Russia1/Germany2 Gridlocked By Old Messages!

A huge bundle of mail from the French and Turkish heads of state was returned today, as apparently the entire capitol cities of both "Real" Russia and Doppleganger Germany are awash with paperwork. They couldn't find anyone to give the mail to.

((Clean out your inbox, Viggo!))

[Vexen]

oh, how impatiently i wait for news of my untimely demise.

[thewamp]

Sorry, there were miscommunications and internets down. The last set of orders said they'd be late, but get it in soon, so I'm going to wait.

[thewamp]

Okay, they've come in, but I'm on the wrong end of an all-nighter, so I'm going to get a few hours of sleep. Expect results in 6 hours.

Speaking of, I'm going to return to a weekly schedule, unless anyone objects, just because several people seem to be having trouble with the quicker schedule.

[thewamp]

Spring 1904

Orders
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4369/loopholesandwormholess1.jpg

New Map
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4369/loopholesandwormholess1.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Eng2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Nth1-Edi1
F Hol1-Nth1
F Lon1 S F Hol1-Nth1
A Ruh1-Hol1

France1 - Maldiem
A Ven2 - Tyr2
A Mar1 - Pie2
F Rom2 - Nap2
F Wes2 - Tys2
A Bur1 S A Ruh1
A Bel1 S F Hol1
A Par1 - Gas1
F Bre1 - Eng1

Germany1 - Vexen
F Hel1 s Kie1 - Hol1
A Kie1 - Hol1
A Ber1 - Kie1
A Mun1 - Ruh1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
A Pie1-Mar2
F Lyo1 S A Pie1-Mar2
F Wes1-Mao2

Russia1 - viggo
A mos1 - sev1
F nwg1 - edi1
F rum1 H
F ska1 S A swe1 - den1
A swe1 - den1
A ukr1 S F rum1
A vie1 - bud1

Turkey1 - Maldiem
A Bul1 - Ser1
A Ser1 - Bud1
A Tri1 Support A Ser1 - Bud1
A Con1 - Bul1
F Aeg1 - Ion1
F Smy1 - Aeg1
F Sev1 H
A Arm1 Support F Sev1 H


Austria2 - girtleaf
vie2 - boh2

England2 - girtleaf
nth2 - edi2
edi2 - yor2

France2 - Vexen
F Spa2 (sc) - Wes1
F Mao2 s Spa2 (sc) - Wes1
A Par2 - Gas2
F Eng2 s Bel2 - Nth2
A Mar2 - Spa2
A Lon2 - Hold
A Tun2 - Hold

Germany2 - viggo
a mun2 -> ber2
a mos2 -> stp2
a lvp2 -> edi2
f kie2 -> hol2
f den2 s f bel2 -> nth2
a boh2 s a ber2 -> sil2
a ber2 -> sil2
f bel2 -> nth2

Italy2 - Splodgey
NMR

Russia2 - Splodgey
NMR

Turkey2 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

Retreats! - PM or post in thread
Aus1 A bud1 may disband or retreat to gal1
Ita1 F wes1 may disband or retreat to nfa1, tys1
Eng2 F nth2 may disband or retreat to nwg2, ska2, hel2

Retreats due by Friday at 10PM
Spring 1904 Orders due by Tuesday at 10PM
Actually this time, guys. Seriously.

[Moody the Wise]

I'll take the retreat to Tys1.

[Vexen]

um . . . Germany2 orders do not match the moves.

[viggo]

Should have been

a mun2 -> ber2
a mos2 -> stp2
a lvp2 -> edi2
f kie2 -> hol2
f den2 s f bel2 -> nth2
a boh2 s a ber2 -> sil2
a ber2 -> sil2
f bel2 -> nth2

I submitted them by AIM late last night, some wire probably got crossed in translation.

[thewamp]

um . . . Germany2 orders do not match the moves.

Fixed now, I think

[girtleaf]

nth2 will retreat to nwg2

[viggo]

whew! i was a bit afraid of a retreat to hel :)

[thewamp]

In case anyone didn't realize, Aus1 A bud1 disbanded.

This is your 21 Hour Warning!

[thewamp]

Fall 1904
Ouch, an unexpected NMR

Orders
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg

New Map
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Ger2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Nth1-Edi1
F Lon1-Nth1
A Ruh1-Mun1

France1 - Maldiem
A Tyr2 Support A Vie2 - Boh2
A Pie2 - Ven2
F Nap2 H
F Tys2 H
A Gas1 Support A Bur1
A Bur1 Support A Ruh1
A Bel1 Support A Ruh1
F Eng1 Support F Lon1 - Nth1

Germany1 - Vexen
A Kie1 S Hol1 - Den1
F Hel1 - Den1
A Mun1 S Kie1
A Hol1 - Beg for Mercy (hold

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
F Tys1-Tun1
F Lyo1-Wes1
A Mar2 Hold

Russia1 - viggo
NMR

Turkey1 - Maldiem
A Tri1 - Vie1
A Bud1 supports A Tri1 - Vie1
A Bul1 - Rum1
A Ser1 Support A Bul1 - Rum1
F Sev1 Support A Bul1 - Rum1
A Arm1 Support F Sev1
F Ion1 Support F Tys1 - Tun1
F Aeg1 H


Austria2 - girtleaf
tri2 - alb2
bud2 - ser2
vie2 - boh2

England2 - girtleaf
yor2 - lvp2
nwg2 - edi2

France2 - Vexen
A Tun1 - Dance a Jig (hold)
F Wes1 - Lyo1
F Mao2 - Spa2 (sc)
A Spa2 - Mar2
A Gas2 S Spa2 - Mar2
F Eng 2 - Bel2
A Lon2 - Yor2

Germany2 - viggo
NMR

Italy2 - Splodgey
NMR

Russia2 - Splodgey
NMR

Turkey2 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

Retreats! - PM or post in thread
Ger2 A Boh2 may disband or retreat to Mun2
Rus1 A Vie1 may disband or retreat to tyr1, boh1, gal1
Rus1 F rum1 may disband or retreat to bla1
Ita1 A mar2 may disband or retreat to pie1
Fra2 A tun1 may disband or retreat to naf1

Builds - assuming all retreats are taken
Austria2 - Build 1
England2 - Remove 1
France1 - Build 1
Italy1 - Build 1
Italy2 - Remove 1
Russia1 - Remove 1
Turkey1 - Build 3

Retreats due by Thursday at 10PM
Builds due by Friday at 10PM
Spring 1905 Orders due by Tuesday at 10PM

[Vexen]

Oh, man I wrote my order wrong. Now i feel stupid

[Vexen]

I'm sorry, but could i request a delay, or a little grace period? I may want to disband but, i am really not someplace i can examine the map. I won't be home until 11-12 pm. Can i post my retreat then?

[Moody the Wise]

I'll take the retreat to Pie1.

[Vexen]

Ok, got home early. Go ahead and disband

[Maldiem]

I want to send my builds, but I also need to see the results of retreats. Could we get an extension on the builds?

[thewamp]

My apologies, viggo autodisbanded. If there isn't a post by the player, before the deadline, or a post by me within a short period after that, you can usually assume this.

If you'd like to take until saturday night, that's fine.

24 Hour Delay On Builds!

[thewamp]

Winter 1904

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1867/loopholesandwormholesf1.jpg

Fra1 B A Mar1
Ita1 B F Rom1
Rus1 NMR
Tur1 B A Ank1
Tur1 B A Con1
Tur1 B F Smy1
Aus2 B A Tri2
Eng2 D F Yor2
Fra2 B A Par2
Ger2 NMR
Ita2 NMR - D F Tun2

Austria1 is officially eliminated!

[viggo]

sweet jesus a windstorm knocks out power/phone/internet in my town for a couple days and i'm supremely ****ed

well, gg guys.

[thewamp]

sweet jesus a windstorm knocks out power/phone/internet in my town for a couple days and i'm supremely ****ed

well, gg guys.
That sucks! If no one objects, you can retroactively build. Hopefully you decide to continue playing?

[Vexen]

I am all for Posthumous builds. I mean . . . uh, yeah

[thewamp]

Either way,
Spring 1905 Orders are Postponed by 24 Hours
Mostly because jdip glitched and I accidentally saved the buggy file and I have to re-adjudicate everything from the beginning, so I need a bit of time. Hopefully that gives viggo some time though.

[Maldiem]

I'm for letting Viggo build.

Also, I built F Mar, not A.

[thewamp]

This is your 21 hour warning

[viggo]

build a war1, build a mun2

[thewamp]

I'm going to delay, Spring Orders due at 10pm Tonight instead

so that there's time to change orders.

[thewamp]

My Apologies: Play Tech Week plus death by school means this will go up on saturday.

[thewamp]

Spring 1905
I despise Jdip, suddenly.
I'm having extremely bad adjudicator issues. I'll get a map up tomorrow. For now though, here are the orders.

If anyone's adjudicating on the side and has a map, it'd be awesome if you could post it.

Orders
- To Come

New Map
- To come
Note: Stp1 is controlled by Rus1
Stp2 is controlled by Ger2
Bul1 is controlled by Tur1
Bul2 is controlled by Tur2
Spa1 is controlled by Fra1
Spa2 is controlled by Fra2

Austria1 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

England1 - Moody the Wise
F Nth1-Nwy1
F Edi1 S F Eng1-Nth1
A Ruh1 Hold

France1 - Maldiem
A Tyr2 - Mun2
A Ven2 H
F Mar1 - Lyo2
A Gas1 - Mar1
F Tys2 Support F Nap2 - Ion2
F Nap2 - Ion2
A Bur1 Support A Ruh1
A Bel1 Support A Ruh1
F Eng1 Support A Bel1


Germany1 - Vexen
A Kie1 s Mun1
F Hel1 - Hol1
A Hol1 - Ruh1
A Mun1 s Hol1 - Ruh1

Italy1 - Moody the Wise
F Tun1-Wes1
F Rom1-Tys1
A Pie1-Mar2
F Lyo1 S A Pie1-Mar2

Russia1 - viggo
a war1 -> gal1
a ukr1 -> rum1
f ska1 -> nor1
f nwg1 -> nao1
a mos1 -> sev1
a den1 buggers moody's mother

Turkey1 - Maldiem
F Sev1 - Bla1
A Arm1 - Sev1
A Rum1 Support A Arm1 - Sev1
A Bud1 - Gal1
A Vie1 Support A Bud1 - Gal1
A Ser1 - Tri1
A Ank1 - Arm1
A Con1 - Bul1
F Smy1 - Eas1
F Aeg1 H
F Ion1 Support F Rom1 - Tys1


Austria2 - girtleaf
Tri2 - ven2
alb2 - gre2
ser2 support alb2 - gre2
boh2 - vle2

England2 - girtleaf
edi2 - nth2

France2 - Vexen
F Bel2 - Eng2
A Lon2 - Yor2
A Gas2 S Mar2
A Par2 - Pic2
A Mar2 S Spa2
F Spa2 (sc) s Wes1 - Lyo1
F Wes1 - Lyo1

Germany2 - viggo
a stp2 -> lvn2
f nth2 -> edi2
a mun2 s a ber2 -> sil2
a lvp2 s f nth2 -> edi2
f den2 -> swe2
a bur2 s a mun2
a ber2 -> sil2
f hol2 gets hammered

Italy2 - Splodgey
NMR

Russia2 - Splodgey
NMR

Turkey2 - Robert Blackletter
NMR

Retreats! - PM or post in thread
Can't tell yet

Retreats due by Monday at 10PM
Fall 1905 Orders due by Thursday at 10PM

[viggo]

how many SC's is victory?

[Moody the Wise]

how many SC's is victory?

Well, it's 18 normally ... is it 36 here? And is it 36 by one power or one player?

[thewamp]

28 in fact.

I'm sorry for these delays, there's been ridiculousness coming from jdip. It simply won't work. I think I'm going to download the new version and try again, all over again, from the beginning.

There will be appropriate delays.

[viggo]

Well, it's 18 normally ... is it 36 here? And is it 36 by one power or one player?


i'd wager one player. it should be one player.

[thewamp]

i'd wager one player. it should be one player.

Yes, 28 by one player

[viggo]

can we have some inappropriate delays? a-WINK ;)

[thewamp]

can we have some inappropriate delays? a-WINK ;)

Because of the complete lack of a map? Yes.