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Starbuck_II
2010-03-06, 04:32 PM
I was reading PHB 2 and came across: Call of Stone

So if we reduce speed to 0, we can statue something (spell slowly does it, lowering speed by 10 penalty, but that would take at least 3 rounds).

I know Slow 1/2's speed.
Entangling Ectoplasm 1/2's speed.
Decelerate 1/2's speed.

Any others?

KellKheraptis
2010-03-06, 04:52 PM
Halt makes them come to just that, a dead halt :)

Optimystik
2010-03-06, 06:22 PM
Anything that forces a balance check (like Grease) also lowers speed.

"A successful check lets you move at half your speed along the surface for 1 round." (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/Balance.htm)

faceroll
2010-03-06, 06:24 PM
Halt makes them come to just that, a dead halt :)

Anything that forces a balance check (like Grease) also lowers speed.

"A successful check lets you move at half your speed along the surface for 1 round." (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/skills/Balance.htm)

Those don't lower your speed, they just makes you move slower. I'm pretty sure there's a difference.

Optimystik
2010-03-06, 06:50 PM
Those don't lower your speed, they just makes you move slower. I'm pretty sure there's a difference.

There is indeed (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hairsplitting)

faceroll
2010-03-06, 07:01 PM
There is indeed (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hairsplitting)

No, I think they're different in the rule set. So moving slower isn't the same thing as actually changing your speed. I don't know what the spell in the OP does, though.

And what's with the snark?

Flickerdart
2010-03-06, 07:04 PM
Being forced to stop doesn't actually change your move speed, and arguably Grease doesn't either. Slow and the rest would work, but halving something never makes it 0.

Optimystik
2010-03-06, 07:08 PM
I don't think it's an important enough distinction to warrant correction - especially since the only thing that actually statues the creatures (to use the OP's terminology) is failing the fort saves, not being reduced to 0 speed.

I suppose I could have just outright said I thought you were splitting hairs (and still do.)

faceroll
2010-03-06, 07:13 PM
I don't think it's an important enough distinction to warrant correction - especially since the only thing that actually statues the creatures (to use the OP's terminology) is failing the fort saves, not being reduced to 0 speed.

Ah. I see.

I suppose I could have just outright said I thought you were splitting hairs (and still do.)

Most discussions of RAW are hairsplitting exercises.

Optimystik
2010-03-06, 07:15 PM
Most discussions of RAW are hairsplitting exercises.