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lvl 1 sharnian
2010-03-10, 07:24 AM
Hey, I'm going to play in a gestalt gladiator arena type campaign soon and I decided I would try to make a Charisma SAD gish (more fighty than magic though)

So here's the build:

Chaotic Good Human

Wilder2/Bard10/FavoredSoul8//CobraStrikeMonk2/PaladinofFreedom4/PiousTemplar1/ArcaneDuelist2/HolyLiberator4/Swiftblade4/MysticWanderer1/WitchHunter1/Crusader1

Important Stuff: Snowflake Wardance, Divine Might, Slippers of Battle Dancing

This build adds Charisma to Saves 3x, AC 2x, Initiative 1x, Touch AC 1x, Evasion, Mettle, A little bit of both arcane and divine casting, and some manuevers

Is there any way to improve the Charisma SADness or round it out, mostly I can see there being a lack of offense on this build right now

magic9mushroom
2010-03-10, 07:25 AM
Evil's Blessing can give Cha to saves, but that probably contradicts something in there.

Roc Ness
2010-03-10, 07:31 AM
The ghost template adds to it, but as far as I can tell your better off without the +5 LA

Cyclocone
2010-03-10, 07:38 AM
Squeeze some Walker in the Waste (It's Hot Outside) 10 in there somewhere and you've got CHA to hp.

pasko77
2010-03-10, 07:42 AM
Bard10/FavoredSoul8


Not sure if i'm correct, but why not sorcerer/fav.soul and then mystic theurge?

Jack_Simth
2010-03-10, 07:46 AM
Not sure if i'm correct, but why not sorcerer/fav.soul and then mystic theurge?
That'd be because everything on the other side past level 5 is full of PrC's.

2xMachina
2010-03-10, 08:13 AM
I never liked the 1 sided Prc only.

lvl 1 sharnian
2010-03-10, 05:47 PM
Not sure if i'm correct, but why not sorcerer/fav.soul and then mystic theurge?

I needed the Bard levels to fuel Snowflake Wardance anyways

Godskook
2010-03-10, 06:06 PM
Ascetic Mage will re-key your monk's wis bonus to AC into a cha bonus. Can't tell if you get 2nd level spontaneous arcane spells though(only thing left you'd need to qualify).

Mongoose87
2010-03-10, 06:08 PM
If you pick up Force of Personality, you can use it in place of Wisdom on many Will saves.

Pluto
2010-03-10, 06:12 PM
What's going on with Favored Soul? When I look at it, all I see are fewer slots for Ruin Delver's Fortune.

Draz74
2010-03-10, 06:31 PM
Needs more Marshal dip.

Thurbane
2010-03-10, 08:17 PM
There's the Stunning (Surge?) weapon enhancement (DMG II/MIC), that allows you to make a stunning attack with the DC based on CHA, and the number of uses per day is also based on CHA.

lvl 1 sharnian
2010-03-10, 08:26 PM
What's going on with Favored Soul? When I look at it, all I see are fewer slots for Ruin Delver's Fortune.

Needed for both Mystic Wanderer (divine casting PrC) and Witch Hunter (magic circle against evil) and I decided to pick up a few more levels while I was progressing Swiftblade since Swiftblade is already progressing bard


Ascetic Mage will re-key your monk's wis bonus to AC into a cha bonus. Can't tell if you get 2nd level spontaneous arcane spells though(only thing left you'd need to qualify).

Forgot about that, it'll be 3x Cha to AC now and no armor doesn't matter since I'll be using Greater Luminous Armor anyways

PhoenixRivers
2010-03-10, 11:28 PM
Needed for both Mystic Wanderer (divine casting PrC) and Witch Hunter (magic circle against evil) and I decided to pick up a few more levels while I was progressing Swiftblade since Swiftblade is already progressing bardWhy won't Divine Bard work?

marjan
2010-03-11, 12:34 AM
Forgot about that, it'll be 3x Cha to AC now and no armor doesn't matter since I'll be using Greater Luminous Armor anyways

It should be noted that spontaneous casters can only use scrolls of sanctified spells.

Pluto
2010-03-11, 12:41 AM
Arcane Preparation to the rescue?

Godskook
2010-03-11, 12:44 AM
Why won't Divine Bard work?

Probably because that's the arcane class he's qualifying for, and progressing with, the Swiftblade PrC.

Olo Demonsbane
2010-03-11, 12:46 AM
Try:

Sorcerer 6/Divine Bard 2/Wilder 2/Sublime Chord 10//
CobraStrikeMonk2/PaladinofFreedom4/PiousTemplar1/
ArcaneDuelist2/HolyLiberator4/Swiftblade4/MysticWanderer1/
WitchHunter1/Crusader1

Voice of Reason
2010-03-11, 01:02 PM
Edit: never mind, already present.