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CoffeeIncluded
2010-03-31, 03:50 PM
Hi! Welcome to the second thread of Murphy's Law! As you can probably guess, I'm making an OOTS-style webcomic. It's comedic, yet with an ongoing, in-depth storyline. It starts out with a multiclass Fighter/Paladin named Lloyd Zephyr looking to organize an adventuring party, and quickly mushrooms from there into something much bigger...

So, yeah...Enjoy!

MURPHY'S LAW

Current comic:

#41: That She Lasted So Long Is A Miracle In Itself
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Please critique!

BONUS: Oh! In case you didn't know, I'm originally from the Crack Pairings Thread. So, I love it when people do crack pairings and stuff of this comic! In fact, I'll post it on here! Just make sure that it obeys board rules and the like, okay?

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"YEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!"

Lloyd looked up from the halberd he was polishing to eye suspiciously the party's rogue, Matt. Matt being happy never boded anything good, though thankfully usually more for himself than for the rest of the party since the universe seemed to have taken a level of ranger and chosen Favored Enemy (Matt). Not that he could blame it, really. When you were dressing as tastelessly as he did, you were certainly asking for it. And that was without considering his absurd strand of cyan hair. Astrid, was that thing ridiculous. But at least it scared goblins away.

"What makes you so happy?"

"I finally managed to talk Radic into wearing a bikini!" the rogue replied triumphantly.

Lloyd stared at him for a few seconds before refocusing on his weapon. "Yeah right."

"That's true!"

"And how, exactly, did you manage to convince her?" asked a skeptical paladin.

"Nothing but sheer charisma, ye faithless."

-

Twenty minutes ago.

"Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepl easepleasepleasepleaseplease!"

"Okay, okay, I'll put on that goddamn bikini! Just get off me now, you freak!"

-

"I see."

"Did someone say "Radic" and "bikini" in the same sentence?" asked the resident nymphomaniac as she walked towards them.

"Yeah! Isn't it awesome?"

"It is! I never managed to make her wear anything revealing!"

Lloyd rolled his eyes skywards and prayed Astrid to grant him the strength to not strangle anyone.

"Guys?" The trio turned around to see Radic's blushing head sticking out from behind a tree. "Please don't laugh," she said as she walked into view, wearing a dark green bikini.

Matt bore a huge smile going from ear to ear that swiftly disappeared to be replaced by a look of pure horror when his eyes drifted down to her waist.

"I don't think that's supposed to be there," commented Lloyd.

"Oh, Radic," said Janine as she licked her lips. "I had no idea you combined the best of both worlds..."

As Matt dropped to his knees to scream a ground-shattering "NOOOOOO!" and Janine remorselessly jumped her friend to kiss and grope her, Lloyd walked away, muttering something along the lines of "Astrid sent them to try me..."

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“Went down your--” Lloyd began to say.

“And that is all I’m going to say about it,” Matt cut him off flatly.

“Whatever,” said Lloyd, looking at Matt’s weasel-inflicted wounds critically, “You should probably go get Janine to heal you.”

“Can’t paladins heal?” Matt asked, not sure where Janine was and in no mood to search for her while every scratch on his body was still smarting.

“The technique’s called ‘Lay on Hands’,” Lloyd replied neutrally.

“Oh,” said Matt. A few seconds of silence passed. “This sucks,” he added in a grumble.

“More than max security?” Lloyd asked as a reminder.

“No,” said Matt darkly, staring broodingly into the middle distance.


---

It was two years ago, back when he was just learning how to get away with things and had recently tried to put a red streak in his hair. The hair was a minor fiasco—he’d bleached first and the red dye wasn’t strong enough, leaving the streak an embarrassingly pretty purplish pink; maybe he should try blue next time—but he was getting to be a really good rogue. Or so he thought.

In retrospect he realized that he probably shouldn’t have been so cocky—after all it was already the sixth time he’d been caught stealing and he’d only been at it a few months—but back in those days he’d felt like he could do anything, like he was untouchable. Sure, he’d gotten thrown in the local jailhouse once or twice, but those cells were a joke; he watched a party full of Level 2 adventures with not a rogue among them break out in ten minutes flat once. Of course, those were the lowest security cells, not max. He didn’t know yet that when they threw you in max, you weren’t getting yourself out any time soon unless you were epic level or something.

That day, the day he got caught for the sixth time, they threw him in max.

“I really am sorry, kid,” the warden had told him grimly, “But today we got three adventuring parties filled with chaotic types who thought they’d found the second easiest way to get some extra gps; the cells are packed, so you’re going to have to go in max.”

“Whatever,” Matt muttered.

A little annoyed by the boy’s indifference, the warden added, “Just so you know, your cell mate got life for massacring a relatively peaceful group of kobold merchants for the XP and…” He gulped. “Accessorizing opportunities.”

“Whatever,” Matt repeated. Wait a minute, what about accessorizing?

“He gets violent when we try to remove things from his cell,” he went on, now honestly angered by the boy’s lack of interest, “Such as the beheaded corpses of former cell mates…”

“What do you mean--” Matt began to ask, a little panicked, before regaining his cool. “You’re making that up just to scare me.”

“If only,” the warden said with a sigh, “I suggest you just try to have a conversation with him; some say the solitude’s made him snap. Ah, here we are.”

At first Matt thought his cellmate was a kobold. Then, gagging, he realized what the warden had meant by “accessorizing opportunities”.

“How’s it going, Killer?” the warden asked with false joviality.

Clutching a human skull pointed at the warden, the filthy Halfling shrieked, “Fireball! Fireball now, or I’ll give you something to Fear you worthless undead piece of crap!”

“This is your new roomie!” the warden continued, forcing himself to smile in the hope that the Halfling would calm down, “His name is Matthew Silver.”

Matt was too terrified to correct him.

While the Halfling did something partially hidden but, Matt feared, definitely obscene to the skull that wouldn’t obey his commands, the warden very quickly unlocked the cell, shoved Matt in, and relocked it.

“I really am sorry,” the warden told Matt again, “If one of those parties breaks out, I’ll get you out of here pronto, but…” He glanced at the Halfling. “It’d be a lie to tell you anything but this: From here it can only get worse.”

He left Matt alone with this thought. And the delusional, psychopathic Halfling.

It took several minutes for the Halfling to get bored with… what he was doing with the skull, but once he did, he took an immediate interest in Matt.

“You don’t look like max security material,” he told the boy smugly, “I guess without the Belkster out there to show ‘em how it’s done, the standards are dropping.”

Matt could manage nothing but a deer-in-the-headlights expression. At this point he was so scared he was barely even breathing.

To his wide-eyed horror, the Halfling began to approach him, picking up a severed head that was lying on the floor by its silvery hair on the way.

“Let’s get a few things straight,” the murderer said, “When they bring the grub in, your plate goes to Mr. Scruffy.” He began stroking the hair on the head affectionately. “Of course none of the stuff here’s good enough for his carnivore tastes, but he’s gotta eat eventually, and when he finally gets hungry enough, he is not going to starve on your account. Got it, wuss?”

Matt managed a nod. Living to see suppertime would be blessing enough. Glances around the room had let him count six different heads, and worryingly he’d only been able to spot four of the respective bodies…

“You really are a wuss, you know? You really shouldn’t be here…” As if too distracted by this revelation to hold his concentration on other things, the Halfling dropped the head known as “Mr. Scruffy.” He stared at Matt. For a long time.

“Aha!” Before Matt had time to realize anything was happening, the Halfling had him pinned to the ground and was yanking on a lock of his hair.

“Thought you could get a way with that?” the Halfling raved. The hand that wasn’t gripping Matt’s hair began fishing around in his grubby pockets for something. “Oh… I’ll do you for that, you androgynous twit…”

“Wh-what?!” Matt sputtered. Through the haze of pain the hair-pulling was spreading through his skull, he thought that the victimized hair might be that stupid attempt at a red streak, not that that was even remotely important right now…

“Come off it, Ears,” the lunatic snapped, yanking what appeared to be a sharpened spoon out of his pocket, “Your friggin’ lame disguise has failed epicly.” His eyes gleamed. “Then again, you always were one for epic failure, weren’t ya, pal?”

“What are you talking about?” Matt asked desperately. And, what did he mean by “Ears”? His voice now laced with disgust, he added, “You think I’m an elf?”

“I said come off it,” the Halfling repeated sharply. Then, to Matt’s surprise, he let go of his hair and his expression softened. “I guess I should’ve stopped bringing it up, after you told us everything that happened, but it was just too good; you finally admitted you screwed up.”

“Oh, I see,” Matt snarled, “An arrogant prick of an elf. Why you--”

“It was worth it, too,” the Halfling continued, now mostly ignoring Matt, “When you just kept blowing stuff up, especially when Roy was throwing hissy fits all the time because we wouldn’t knock it off. But then,” now his face flushed with rage, “You frickin’ set me up in this dump of a town with a frickin’ epic level prison!” He refocused his gaze on Matt. “And of course you had to come back and gloat,” he added, his voice cold.

“Dude,” said Matt, “I don’t even know what you’re talking about, and I’m not an elf! I hate elves!”

“Nice try, Ears,” said the Halfling, “But you really should have chosen a disguise that looked like it actually belonged in max security.” With a disturbing suddenness, the Halfling grinned. “Since you obviously can’t break out of this cell anymore than I can… Do you know what they do to pretty, purple-haired little elf-boys like you in prison, Vaarsuvius?”

“It’s Matt,” Matt spat, but his face was paling.

Brandishing the lethally sharp spoon, the madman said, “Because I’m about to show you.”


---

One of the adventuring parties did break out eventually, and the warden came to move Matt to another cell as he promised, in the nick of time, at that. Whenever Matt looked back on the whole incident (usually after waking up from a graphic nightmare) he shuddered to think what might have happened had he been left in there longer, but nonetheless wished that he could have been moved sooner.

In the weeks following his stay in prison Matt improved as a rogue very quickly. Before it’d been all about the loot but now he’d learned to focus on not getting caught. He decided he was never going to prison again and would do whatever it took to stay out of maximum security.


---

“Did you just have a flashback?” Lloyd asked Matt accusingly.

“Yeah,” said Matt, “Got a problem with that?”

“I’m the main character and I’ve already hinted at a dark and interesting backstory,” Lloyd said hotly, “I’m supposed to get the first flashback!”

Matt smirked. From here it could only get better.



“Nice try, Ears,” said the Halfling, “But you really should have chosen a disguise that looked like it actually belonged in max security.” With a disturbing suddenness, the Halfling grinned. “Since you obviously can’t break out of this cell anymore than I can… Do you know what they do to pretty, purple-haired little elf-boys like you in prison, Vaarsuvius?”

“It’s Matt,” Matt spat, but his face was paling.

Brandishing the lethally sharp spoon, the madman said, “Because I’m about to show you.”

“Nooooooo!” Matt cried upon abruptly waking, sitting straight up. Rubbing his eyes, he said gruffly but a little sheepishly, “Sorry, I know that’s one of the most annoying clichés in the book, but…” He looked around him. All three of the other adventurers were still asleep. “Okay… Nevermind.” Shuddering a little and trying to push the nightmare out of his thoughts, he slowly lied back down.

“Mmm… Glad you think so Lloyd… Now come here…”

“What?” Matt sat back up, looking around himself again. Everyone was still asleep. He glanced at Lloyd. Nope, definitely not doing anything to Janine. He glanced at Janine—

“Oh, Lloyd, I think I’m wounded…”

“Wounded?” Matt repeated, raising an eyebrow. He’d never heard that one before.

“You must Lay Hands on me…”

Oh. That made sense. He should’ve seen that one coming, really. As Janine’s words dissolved into little moans that made him uncomfortable on multiple levels, he lied back again, muttering, “Who seriously talks in their sleep anyway?” and tried to go back to sleep.

“Let me show you another use for Water Drops…”

Water Drops? Matt frowned. Weren’t those those little pills wizards could make out of water that released mouthfuls of water when you chewed on them?

“That’s right, put it there…”

“What the…?” Matt murmured.

“Now squeeze… Ah!”

“Is she…?”

“Mmm… You know, if you’re Good…” There was a little snorting sound that might have been Janine giggling, “The water tastes sweet… Oh, yes…”

“Oh, no…” Matt said with a grunt, rolling over and clutching his stomach. He did not want to hear this.

“I also know another use for—”

“Gah!” Matt cried, clapping his hands over his ears. How am I going to get back to sleep with this show playing in the background? Well, he couldn’t hear her with his hands over his ears, at least. Okay. I can do this… He started taking deep breaths in an attempt to make himself fall asleep faster while keeping his hands over his ears. Though this method wasn’t quite as efficient as he’d hoped for it to be, after about half an hour he felt himself drifting off. His arms relaxed has he sunk into a peaceful slumber, his hands gently falling away from his ears…

“Oh, Lloyd, I didn’t know you were a sorcerer…”

“Huh…?” Matt muttered sleepily.

“There really are a lot of uses for Prestidigitation… Mmm…”

Ba-dum, ting! Matt’s half-dreaming mind supplied for that one liner as he let out a moan of protest. He tried to sit up again, but realized he was already falling asleep, Janine’s words weaving themselves into his dreams…


---

“Nooooo!” Matt cried out again, awaking while sitting bolt upright for the second time that night. Taking deep breaths to calm himself down, he looked around to find that once again he’d failed to wake up the other three adventurers. It wouldn’t have been all that bad, he mused, wiping the cold sweat from his brow, if there hadn’t been so much… Lloyd. After shooting a glare at the now innocently silent Janine, he lied back and was asleep within minutes.


---

Remus raised his head to make his best you-should-feel-guilty sad eyes at the screaming human but to no avail; the little punk didn’t even glance at him. Apparently no one cares if they wake up just a dog in the middle of the night. As Matt went back to sleep, Remus put his own head back down with a self-righteous sniff, but raised it again after a few seconds.

Remus heard a sound. It sounded like an animal sound, but it wasn’t a familiar sound. A weird tp-tp-tp-tp-tping was prowling in a circle around them. The dog scanned the forest as best as he could, a low growl rumbling in the back of his throat. It was hard to tell now that Radic’s friend had started muttering in her sleep again, but after a few seconds it sounded like the tp-tping had stopped. This didn’t make Remus feel any better. Whining a little, he nudged Radic’s arm with his nose.


---

“Urg, Remus…” Radic groaned, batting her companion’s cold nose away from her, “What is it?”

Remus whined and poked her arm with his nose again.

“Okay, okay,” said Radic, sitting up and scratching him behind an ear, “What’s wrong, boy?”

“Mmrr… Lloyd,” Janine murmured, “You can… Desecrate my temple… Anyday…”

“Well that’s nothing new,” said Radic, playing with Remus’ ears, “Did she wake you up?”

Remus sniffed a little and let out another whimper.

“Northern ambush… Gnnh…” Lloyd was muttering, a sheen of sweat shining on his face.

“Oh,” said Radic, glancing over at him, “Poor guy… Wonder what’s going on in there?”


---

Remus settled down with a sigh while Radic sat down near the boy with a horse, stroking his hair occasionally and whispering little sympathetic phrases. It was just his luck that when he tries to warn her about possible danger, she decides she wants to get a head start on mating with something just because it looked pitiful when it slept. Oh well, he still hadn’t heard any more tp-tping, so maybe they were safe after all.


---

Lloyd seemed to be sleeping more peacefully now, and even though the way his face looked so smooth and elegant in the moonlight made Radic feel warm and giddy inside, at last she decided it was time she got back to sleeping too. As she drifted off next to a a sleeping Remus, oblivious to a faint tp-tp-tping sound approaching the camp from a distance, she decided that this was going to be the best campaign ever.


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Lloyd looked at the other warrior. He was everything Lloyd admired in a man - self-confident, experienced, tough... yet there was a touch of sadness around him. A feeling that things weren't the way they were supposed to be.

"So, you've been adventuring with these for how long?"

"Oh, we're just starting out. We're looking for a dragon."

The other warrior nodded. He asked a few more questions, and without really knowing how it happened Lloyd suddenly realized he had told the other warrior much more than he intended. Even about Janine...

"I mean, it's like all she wants is sex. Yeah, that's important, but I want something more than that. I want a relationship, and it feels like she'll just go off in search of the next conquest five minutes after she's had me."

"Yes," said the other warrior. "I understand. But let me tell you something - I'm in a relationship with a sylph right now. She's a great girl, but being away from her for so long... you get the itch, y'know. Like this..."

The other warrior leaned over and kissed Lloyd softly on the mouth. Lloyd tensed up at first, then relaxed. He had never dreamt that being kissed by a man could be so wonderful. A whirlpool of emotions welled up inside him and drowned all thoughts of the quests, all thoughts of Janine, all thoughts...

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EDIT: Look! Banners! (Well, one now, but two more coming! :smallbiggrin:)


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(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147409)

Closak
2010-04-02, 07:25 AM
Yay New thread new thread! *Dances*

*Gives Janine flirtatious letters signed with the Green Dragons name*

*Watches*

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 07:49 AM
Yay New thread new thread! *Dances*

*Gives Janine flirtatious letters signed with the Green Dragons name*

*Watches*

Closak, promise me one thing: You'll keep your ranting to a minimum over the next few comics, okay? Please?

Closak
2010-04-02, 07:52 AM
I try :smallredface:

Hmm...
Oh dear :smalleek:

*Casts Mute on self*

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 07:56 AM
I try :smallredface:

Hmm...
Oh dear :smalleek:

*Casts Mute on self*

The next two comics. That's all. I promise. Thank you. :smallsmile:

Zanaril
2010-04-02, 08:05 AM
The next two comics. That's all. I promise. Thank you. :smallsmile:

That seems to imply that the next to comics are more than likely to provoke Closak's ranting. :smallamused:

Grim ranger
2010-04-02, 08:23 AM
That seems to imply that the next to comics are more than likely to provoke Closak's ranting. :smallamused:

Thank you for masterfully pointing out the obvious :smalltongue:

After all, it is backstory time for Dragon :smallbiggrin:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 09:07 AM
Thank you for masterfully pointing out the obvious :smalltongue:

After all, it is backstory time for Dragon :smallbiggrin:

You don't know the half of it. :smallamused:

In fact, I best get started right now! After all, it's Friday!

Asta Kask
2010-04-02, 09:18 AM
You forgot RoyxLloyd (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7933841&postcount=916). But it's nothing. It's just that... I thought... we were friends... :smallfrown:

:smallsmile:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 09:19 AM
You forgot RoyxLloyd (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7933841&postcount=916). But it's nothing. It's just that... I thought... we were friends... :smallfrown:

:smallsmile:

Whoops, sorry. I'll add it right now.

Silverraptor
2010-04-02, 09:32 AM
A new thread. One more then my comic. But it's all good.:smallsmile:

Closak
2010-04-02, 10:28 AM
You don't know the half of it. :smallamused:

In fact, I best get started right now! After all, it's Friday!

Yay! *Sits and waits like a good little dragon*

...Or not...

I'm off to do some homework now :annoyed:

Asta Kask
2010-04-02, 10:33 AM
Yay! *Sits and waits like a good little dragon*

...Or not...

I'm off to do some homework now :annoyed:

Homework? On Good Friday? Don't you know you're supposed to just sit and repent your sins?

Aaron
2010-04-02, 10:44 AM
Yay! New thread! *starts dancing*


This is true. Also, being on the internet gives -10 to my Detect sarcasm roll.

:tongue::wink:


Closak, promise me one thing: You'll keep your ranting to a minimum over the next few comics, okay? Please?

Like Zanaril masterfully pointed out, that means that the next two comics are going to be awesome!


Yay! *Sits and waits like a good little dragon*

Good boy. :smalltongue::smallamused:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 11:34 AM
Alright! Time for the first update of the new thread! Enjoy, and please don't forget to leave those comments and critiques! :smallbiggrin:

#27: Say What You Will, But He's Got Style
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Closak
2010-04-02, 11:38 AM
...
...
...

I call Lawful Evil on those mercenaries...

Zanaril
2010-04-02, 11:39 AM
That was very well done. :smalleek:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 11:46 AM
...
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...

I call Lawful Evil on those mercenaries...

I don't know their alignments. Heck, if you wanted to, you could make the case that they're Good.


That was very well done. :smalleek:

Wow. Thanks. :smallsmile: If I may ask, what did you like best about it?

Zanaril
2010-04-02, 11:51 AM
Wow. Thanks. :smallsmile: If I may ask, what did you like best about it?
The last four panels in particular. They flow well, and the joke is delivered with a distinct hint of black comedy. That's hard to do right. :smallwink:

The Blackbird
2010-04-02, 12:19 PM
...
...
...

I call Lawful Evil on those mercenaries...

I don't know about that, the fact that they weren't sure that she was a dragon and the vicious banter means that he in particular is not good.

Course, this is the exact sort of thing Discord wanted to avoid so I'll leave it at that...

Good comic, though.:smallsmile:

Dark Faun
2010-04-02, 12:27 PM
I don't know their alignments. Heck, if you wanted to, you could make the case that they're Good.
Don't open this can of worms. Please.

I take it the green dragons' family name is Mybreathdoesn'thitanythingever?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 12:31 PM
Don't open this can of worms. Please.

I take it the green dragons' family name is Mybreathdoesn'thitanythingever?

Yay! *Hugs*

Okay. Sorry. *Closes can*

...Perhaps. :smallamused:

Dark Faun
2010-04-02, 12:35 PM
It's especially amusing when you're more used to Warhammer than to Dungeons & Dragons; in Warhammer, a dragon's breath would be a template weapon - and template weapons always hit. They even deny cover saves.

Now, the ranger has an excuse: he has evasion. Lloyd's party, though...

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 12:40 PM
Now, the ranger has an excuse: he has evasion. Lloyd's party, though...

Yep. :smallamused:

But also, don't forget that this is a flashback to 50 years ago Those mercenaries were at a higher level than Lloyd and Co are at now.

Uh, did you like? :smalltongue:

Dark Faun
2010-04-02, 12:45 PM
But also, don't forget that this is a flashback to 50 years ago Those mercenaries were at a higher level than Lloyd and Co are at now.
I know. This is why I said the ranger had evasion. It's Lloyd's party not being hit that surprised me.


Uh, did you like? :smalltongue:
Would I post here if I didn't? :smalltongue:

Being threatened by dragons has an advantage compared to other threats: they always have a huge hoard, so you don't even need to have enough money to reward mercenaries; you just say "save us and keep their hoard!"

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 12:55 PM
I know. This is why I said the ranger had evasion. It's Lloyd's party not being hit that surprised me.


Would I post here if I didn't? :smalltongue:

Being threatened by dragons has an advantage compared to other threats: they always have a huge hoard, so you don't even need to have enough money to reward mercenaries; you just say "save us and keep their hoard!"

Compare the dragon Lloyd and co just fought to his mother. Their battle skills decline sharply when they get angry.

Exactly! :smallbiggrin:

Dark Faun
2010-04-02, 01:02 PM
I wonder if we'll find out the mercenaries left the green dragon child alive on purpose because he was too young to be actually involved in the crime ring.

Asta Kask
2010-04-02, 01:06 PM
I wonder if we'll find out the mercenaries left the green dragon child alive on purpose because he was too young to be actually involved in the crime ring.

20 gp says he hid.

Good update. Weren't you going to Cornell today? Or was that last Friday?

Closak
2010-04-02, 01:08 PM
My theory is that they left him alive because it would make him suffer more than killing him would.

Leaving him alive while his family is dead so they can laugh at his misery.
After all, it would cause less suffering if he got to join them in the afterlife.
So it's more fun to kick him around a bit and leave him alive.


Yeah, my view on those mercenaries isn't very nice...


Or theory B: What Asta Kask said, he hid and they didn't see him.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 01:09 PM
Discord: We'll find out! :smallbiggrin:

Asta, actually we weren't able to see colleges this weekend. :smallfrown:

Asta Kask
2010-04-02, 01:18 PM
*hugs*

Well, on the other hand - we did get another update. So I'm cool with that.

Anyone know anything about Wheellock muskets?

Dark Faun
2010-04-02, 01:25 PM
They're off topic. :smalltongue:


Discord: We'll find out! :smallbiggrin:
The only thing more gray characters hurt is people's preconceptions. :smallamused:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 01:27 PM
They're off topic. :smalltongue:


The only thing more gray characters hurt is people's preconceptions. :smallamused:

Oh, you don't know the half of it. :smallamused:

Asta Kask
2010-04-02, 01:31 PM
They're not gray. They're more brown, blue and red. :smallconfused:

Mystic Muse
2010-04-02, 01:37 PM
.....So, Closak, you up for a bit of adventurer hunting?

The ones in the comic (not Lloyd's group) Shall perish!

Dark Faun
2010-04-02, 01:39 PM
They're not gray. They're more brown, blue and red. :smallconfused:
I'll presume you're joking but I'll still explain for those who've not actually ever heard the term.

Gray characters are those who don't fit the manichean view people call "black and white." Gray characters are all those in between; from the lightest gray to the darkest, though the term "gray" appears to be used more for characters who're more or less in the middle rather than those close to the extremes.

The prime example in this comic would be Lloyd since Coffee identified him as belonging to the atoner archetype in another thread.

Green-Shirt Q
2010-04-02, 01:41 PM
A second thread after just 27 comics? That HAS to be some kind of record. :smalleek:

Grim ranger
2010-04-02, 01:49 PM
A second thread after just 27 comics? That HAS to be some kind of record. :smalleek:

Eh, I think ABR holds that one firmly :smalltongue:

Asta Kask
2010-04-02, 01:50 PM
A second thread after just 27 comics? That HAS to be some kind of record. :smalleek:

We tend to ramble a lot...

Still, you should see Order of the Stick - it gets a new thread after every update... :eek:


I'll presume you're joking but I'll still explain for those who've not actually ever heard the term.

Yes, I was joking. And it was a damn funny joke too!!!

Silverraptor
2010-04-02, 02:08 PM
To keep up the suspense, you might want to think about updating quickly on this part.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-02, 02:14 PM
To keep up the suspense, you might want to think about updating quickly on this part.

I'll see what I can do! HOPEFULLY Monday.

But APs are in a month...:eek:

The Q: :smallbiggrin:

Discord: Actually, it's a lot more characters than you'd think.

Aaron
2010-04-02, 02:46 PM
:smalleek:...wow. How to beat a dragon: Just distract it with gloating talk while your allies cast spells and flank it. :smallbiggrin::smalltongue:

Great update coffee! :smallbiggrin:


20 gp says he hid.

I'll also bet that he hid.

Keveak
2010-04-02, 02:46 PM
I should comment some more on these comic thingamajigs.

Great comic, Coffee!

I so don't like those mercenaries, they're evil by all standards:

1. They fight for personal gain (1 Evil)
2. They kill a non-evil creature based on it offering them help in their quest, because of doubtful paranoia (3 Evil)
3. They kill a creature for it's skin-colour (4.5 Evil)
4. They think themselves to be good and better than the dragons and show no remorse (10 Evil )


Homework? On Good Friday? Don't you know you're supposed to just sit and repent your sins?

Only if you're a Catholic Christian, if Closak is not then you might have gravely offended him, now go make him a cookie to apologise :smalltongue:

Closak
2010-04-02, 03:28 PM
Nah, i don't really get myself involved in religious matters.
Let someone else handle it i say.


Yes, those mercenaries practically scream EVIL to me.
Torches and pitchforks anyone?


Also, what is Radic thinking about this whole thing? *Tries and fails miserably at psychoanalyzing Radic's thoughts*

Dark Faun
2010-04-02, 03:47 PM
I'll see what I can do! HOPEFULLY Monday.

But APs are in a month...:eek:
Your future's more important than a webcomic, never forget this.


Discord: Actually, it's a lot more characters than you'd think.
I have no doubt.


Also, what is Radic thinking about this whole thing? *Tries and fails miserably at psychoanalyzing Radic's thoughts*
'@#§%! I left the oven on.'

Lix Lorn
2010-04-02, 04:26 PM
Oh my god Discord, I love you for that. XD

Mystic Muse
2010-04-02, 04:45 PM
Torches and pitchforks anyone?


How about Dragon breath, claws and teeth? I find that to be more fun.

Closak
2010-04-02, 04:48 PM
Good point buddy, good point.

Angry mob of pissed off dragons, CHARGE! (Maniac grin)


Mr T: I pity da fool who kills a dragon in such a manner.


...And i'm not sure if Radic even has an oven...Because you know, druid.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-02, 05:20 PM
I prefer magic myself. Now, why don't you go stat up the mercenaries, overpower yourselves and roleplay out their painful death rather than risking Coffee's thread?

(Removes Celestial template from self)

I feel dirty all over.

:smallsmile::smallyuk::smallfrown:

(Waits for next comic like the faithful kuppy she currently is)

Closak
2010-04-02, 05:23 PM
Kuppy? :smallconfused:


And is that a cuddly wuddly snake in the background of your avatar?


...*Gives Janine some "Toys" to use against Lloyd*

Lix Lorn
2010-04-02, 05:25 PM
Kitten-puppy cross. (grin)
It's my shaaaadow. (wider grin)

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-03, 03:49 AM
And is that a cuddly wuddly snake in the background of your avatar?


someone hasent see nthe first few seasions of the pokemon TV show. that my freind, is Arbok. (the shadow, not the girl) but this is not the topic.


i bet 20Cp that the dragons escape and live happily ever after!

Closak
2010-04-03, 01:19 PM
Sadly i am afraid that is not going to happen :smallfrown:

Poor dragons :frown: *Mourns*


...*Get's some rope*

Asta Kask
2010-04-03, 01:22 PM
i bet 20Cp that the dragons escape and live happily ever after!

That is what we call a low-probability scenario... :smalltongue:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-03, 01:24 PM
I bet 20Cp that the dragons escape and live happily ever after!

One's been shish kabobed and the other's been decapitated and dismembered.

Asta Kask
2010-04-03, 01:28 PM
One's been shish kabobed and the other's been decapitated and dismembered.

'Tis just a flesh-wound!

Tulio d Bard
2010-04-03, 01:57 PM
'Tis just a flesh-wound!

What are you gonna do, bleed on me?!

Lix Lorn
2010-04-03, 03:32 PM
Shut up! I'll bite your kneecaps!
[/offtopic]
Are we still waiting for Monday, Coffee, or should we bring our hopes down? XD Your call.

Keveak
2010-04-03, 03:50 PM
What are you gonna do, bleed on me?!

Given how some creatures bleed I wouldn't be so confident if I was you.

[offtopic]

Who is the girl with the Arbok-shadow in Lix's avatar, anyway? It bugs me that I don't know...

Asta Kask
2010-04-03, 03:52 PM
Who is the girl with the Arbok-shadow in Lix's avatar, anyway? It bugs me that I don't know...

I don't know, but she has nice boobs.

Dark Faun
2010-04-03, 03:53 PM
I'd like to remind everyone there's this handy private message feature that allows you to ask such questions without derailing a thread.

I wonder what Lloyd will think of the mercenaries. They might not be innocent, but the dragons weren't either, the baby excepted, which was why they got mercenaries after them in the first place.

Asta Kask
2010-04-03, 04:03 PM
I wonder what Lloyd will think of the mercenaries. They might not be innocent, but the dragons weren't either, the baby excepted, which was why they got mercenaries after them in the first place.

You have a point. It's highly probable that the other dragons were evil - a whole family of Lawful Neutral dragons is unlikely. Perhaps a point could be made for unnecessary cruelty but... not even that, I think.

And Closak, keep your ranting about this in the FF forums. Let's try to have an on-topic page, for Discord's sake!

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-03, 04:20 PM
Shut up! I'll bite your kneecaps!
[/offtopic]
Are we still waiting for Monday, Coffee, or should we bring our hopes down? XD Your call.

I'm gonna try for Monday.

You know what's great about living in New York? I saw Spamalot the very last day it was on Broadway.



I wonder what Lloyd will think of the mercenaries. They might not be innocent, but the dragons weren't either, the baby excepted, which was why they got mercenaries after them in the first place.

Like I said, we'll see! :smallwink: Lloyd's still recovering from the initial shock. For various reasons. :smalltongue:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-03, 04:24 PM
@Discord: Not necessarily. I could easily believe by the look of those mercenaries that they just heard 'Ooh, dragon' and went to kill them for the XP.

She is a Moe (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hack_games#Moemon)Mon (http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Ayuriko/Moemon/).
(I don't think we can physically be entirely ontopic... how about if it starts and ends ontopic?)

What one would Lloyd's party be? Lloyd is a Lucario. XD

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-03, 04:29 PM
@Discord: Not necessarily. I could easily believe by the look of those mercenaries that they just heard 'Ooh, dragon' and went to kill them for the XP.

She is a Moe (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hack_games#Moemon)Mon (http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk316/Ayuriko/Moemon/).
(I don't think we can physically be entirely ontopic... how about if it starts and ends ontopic?)

What one would Lloyd's party be? Lloyd is a Lucario. XD

I believe I said earlier what each character would have for pokemon, if they each had a 3-pokemon team. :smallbiggrin:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-03, 04:42 PM
You did, but did you say what they'd BE? (Grin)

Dark Faun
2010-04-03, 04:47 PM
for Discord's sake!
What am I, a damsel in distress?


(I don't think we can physically be entirely ontopic... how about if it starts and ends ontopic?)
You think wrong.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-03, 04:49 PM
You did, but did you say what they'd BE? (Grin)

Yes. Yes I did. (For Example, Janine's 3 pokemon would be Blissey, Kangaskhan, and Lopunny). It's on the previous thread.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-03, 04:49 PM
See, I disagree there. (Technically, that was offtopic.)
Can we take this discussion to PMs?

...not what I meant, Coffee. XD I meant what pokemon would Janine and Lloyd be themselves?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-03, 05:17 PM
See, I disagree there. (Technically, that was offtopic.)
Can we take this discussion to PMs?

...not what I meant, Coffee. XD I meant what pokemon would Janine and Lloyd be themselves?

*Shrugs* There's a reason I couldn't narrow it down past three. It's easier for some than others. :smalltongue:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-03, 05:22 PM
Lloyd is Lucario. Or Gallade...
Touche. XD You win.

Lycan 01
2010-04-03, 07:00 PM
The last 2 strips are sad. :smallfrown:


The Dragons may be evil, but so are the mercenaries (the leader didn't seem to care if she'd been human...), and the dragons have the whole "happy family" thing going for them. Plus, the mercenaries are just over-doing it. :smallannoyed:

I know it makes no difference what we think, but I personally hope for an awesome "vengance" scene next strip with the green dragon RAVAGING his family's killers. Thought it seems unlikely... :smallsigh:


I'm not complaining, though. Its still a great comic. And you're very talented to be able to get such a reaction from your readers... :smalltongue:

Tulio d Bard
2010-04-03, 11:24 PM
If the story was told in some different way (let's say, in the mercenaries point of view), maybe we would be completely against the dragons.

Asta Kask
2010-04-04, 06:17 AM
If the story was told in some different way (let's say, in the mercenaries point of view), maybe we would be completely against the dragons.

Oh yes, absolutely. It would be interesting to hear what the mercenaries said.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-04, 07:18 AM
Oh yes, absolutely. It would be interesting to hear what the mercenaries said.

Well, the human's long dead, and the halfling and dwarf are at the end of their lives. So, unfortunately, we won't be able too.

But that's what makes it all so interesting. :smallsmile:

Asta Kask
2010-04-04, 07:24 AM
Now we get to see the green dragon looking for the people who killed his family and take a horrible revenge. "My name is Greenwing Can'thitanythingever. You killed my family. Prepare to die..."

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 08:59 AM
XDDD
<3 This is why I love you.

Oh, he's dead? Well, it's utterly impossibly to ask him then. (Eyeroll) Just Speak With Dead on the mercenary.

Closak
2010-04-04, 09:01 AM
Or Planeshift into the afterlife, hunt him down, and beat the crap out of him until he talks.

I prefer my option since it involves hurting him.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-04, 09:03 AM
Now we get to see the green dragon looking for the people who killed his family and take a horrible revenge. "My name is Greenwing Can'thitanythingever. You killed my family. Prepare to die..."

You do realize that he was twelve at the time, right? :smalltongue: And besides, that would be Greenscale. He's got purple wings. (And eyes.)

Also, he did hit the characters in that fight. Both Radic and Janine ended up in the negative HP range despite their buffs, and Matt was brought down to 2 HP when he ran for it.



Oh, he's dead? Well, it's utterly impossibly to ask him then. (Eyeroll) Just Speak With Dead on the mercenary.
Oh, that would be an absolutely wonderful idea, if they knew where he was buried.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 09:22 AM
...oh. You need to know where they're buried? Fine, Planeshift and slaughter it is.

Asta Kask
2010-04-04, 10:04 AM
You do realize that he was twelve at the time, right? :smalltongue: And besides, that would be Greenscale. He's got purple wings. (And eyes.)

Actually I had forgotten his name so I just made one up. :smalltongue:


Oh, that would be an absolutely wonderful idea, if they knew where he was buried.

They really need an arcane spellcaster to cast Legend Lore. Although that's a 7th-level spell, so I suspect it's still out of their range... Besides, Speak with Dead doesn't allow for a long conversation, only answering a couple of questions.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 10:24 AM
But Legend Lore only knows legends... right? :smallconfused: Would that find anything useful about the mercenaries?

Asta Kask
2010-04-04, 10:44 AM
I stand corrected. There's probably other spells, though. Contact Other Plane? Commune?

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 10:54 AM
Is Sending one way?

Asta Kask
2010-04-04, 11:03 AM
Is Sending one way?

Yes it is.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 11:08 AM
Hmm... how about Scry on one of his old companions, and ask them where he's buried?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-04, 11:26 AM
Hmm... how about Scry on one of his old companions, and ask them where he's buried?

To be honest, they've probably forgotten about what they did to the dragons by now.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 11:27 AM
-_-

Yeah, but they'd know where their companion's buried.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-04, 11:41 AM
-_-

Yeah, but they'd know where their companion's buried.

What's the point, though? It's revenge and needless violence. Would you suggest killing their families as retaliation? It may feel good, but that doesn't make it right.

And then eventually the whole thing would escalate into a blood feud or something, and nobody would remember how it even started.

Asta Kask
2010-04-04, 11:45 AM
I think the point, if there ever was one, was to hear the story from their perspective. Of course, why you can't just ask the people who're alive is beyond me. Some of the people here are quite intelligent, but tend to lose the original point as the discussion rambles on. :smallsmile:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 11:48 AM
Good point. Could just ask the survivors. DXD

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-04, 11:49 AM
I think the point, if there ever was one, was to hear the story from their perspective. Of course, why you can't just ask the people who're alive is beyond me. Some of the people here are quite intelligent, but tend to lose the original point as the discussion rambles on. :smallsmile:

Because they're dead.

Also, the dragon is somewhat masking what his family did. (As best he can under the Zone of Truth). Or understating it. But the fight as the dragon states it is pretty much how the actual fight went.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 11:51 AM
I thought you said they were old, but only one was dead? :smallconfused:

Asta Kask
2010-04-04, 11:59 AM
They're probably one MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-04, 12:03 PM
They're probably one MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.

Root through their pockets and look for spare change?

Well...He IS a dragon, after all.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 12:19 PM
Okay, enough Princess Bride references now. <3 (hugs both)

Seriously, i thought some were alive?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-04, 12:45 PM
Okay, enough Princess Bride references now. <3 (hugs both)

Seriously, i thought some were alive?

The dwarf's alive and the halfling may be, but they're really old. And retired. Or they died adventuring. I really have no idea.

Closak
2010-04-04, 12:51 PM
Probably got eaten alive by a army of CR 18 super-zombies (Eat DC 25 Will save or die instantly, cast on you like 80 times in the same turn because there's so damn many of them)

I kinda hope they were, dying because of those things is extremely exruciatingly painful.

Then again, it work just as well if they were eviscerated by that damn lizardman (CR 15 and my worst nightmare in any situation where i'm not epic level)

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 12:57 PM
A-HEM, Closak, go rant elsewhere before poor Discord gets an anneurism.

XD
You don't know? Well... then we scry on them, then talk to them if they're there.

Tulio d Bard
2010-04-04, 01:12 PM
And then we call a Holy Trial on the case.
(Crayons yay)

(Loved the moemon pictures)

Lix Lorn
2010-04-04, 01:26 PM
Yes? XD No, then we teleport after them.

(I know. They rule!)

Closak
2010-04-05, 07:23 AM
Well, today is supposedly update day :smallsmile:

Yay! *Sits and waits*

...*Gnaws on a adventurer* I found this guy on the road, the moron attacked me on sight and since i was a bit hungry... *Swallows whole*


...I just shut up now :smalleek:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 08:27 AM
Alright, enjoy this update! School starts Wednesday, so it's back to the regular Friday updating schedule for the rest of the school year. Remember, I love those comments! :smallbiggrin:

#28: Harmful To Minors
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac294/caffeineincluded/HarmfulToMinors.png

Herpestidae
2010-04-05, 08:49 AM
Death should not be this funny.

Asta Kask
2010-04-05, 09:05 AM
Yay! Update! And I win 20 gp and 10 cp. I'm now... 10 cp wealthier than I was before. That's 1/10 XP. Woot!

So from now it's Fridays strict, right? And we probably won't get one around the AP exams, also correct?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 09:07 AM
Yay! Update! And I win 20 gp and 10 cp. I'm now... 10 cp wealthier than I was before. That's 1/10 XP. Woot!

So from now it's Fridays strict, right? And we probably won't get one around the AP exams, also correct?
Fridays until further notice (Likely summer vacation, MAYBE one on Memorial day.) Nothing during AP week, sorry.

So, what did you think?


Death should not be this funny.
Whose death? :smalltongue:

Asta Kask
2010-04-05, 09:16 AM
Fridays until further notice (Likely summer vacation, MAYBE one on Memorial day.) Nothing during AP week, sorry.

So, what did you think?

Oh, I'm waiting for Lloyd's reaction... it should be priceless... :smallbiggrin:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 09:19 AM
Oh, I'm waiting for Lloyd's reaction... it should be priceless... :smallbiggrin:

What do you think it'll be? :smallamused:

(And if it wasn't obvious enough, the little guy saw the whole thing. :smalleek:)

Silverraptor
2010-04-05, 09:23 AM
Do you read "Anti-Heros" coffee?:smallconfused:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 09:30 AM
Do you read "Anti-Heros" coffee?:smallconfused:

I actually had this idea in mind the second I read about the "Delayed Blast Fireball" entry on the d20 website. I needed a good way to kill the father dragon that would be both darkly humorous and demonstrate how ruthless these guys are.

Silverraptor
2010-04-05, 09:38 AM
Ah!

The reason why I asked was because of this. (http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/163)

Dark Faun
2010-04-05, 10:27 AM
Good update. I guess the father actually can hit something with his breath.


Oh, I'm waiting for Lloyd's reaction... it should be priceless... :smallbiggrin:
"So... What was this business your father was running, again?"
"Uh..."
*shines flashlight in dragon's face* "You know it. And if yous don't tell us what we wants, it ain't gonna be pretty for you."
"I'm innocent officer, I swear!"
*smashes flashlight into his face* "Tell it to the judge."

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 10:36 AM
@Silverraptor: I know. But I wasn't thinking of that when I did this.


Good update. I guess the father actually can hit something with his breath.


"So... What was this business your father was running, again?"
"Uh..."
*shines flashlight in dragon's face* "You know it. And if yous don't tell us what we wants, it ain't gonna be pretty for you."
"I'm innocent officer, I swear!"
*smashes flashlight into his face* "Tell it to the judge."

Thanks! :smallbiggrin: What did you like about it? :smalltongue:

...And I just got a mental image of Lloyd as Sam Vimes, and it was awesome.

Dark Faun
2010-04-05, 10:47 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Samuel_Vimes.jpg
"Who will smite the paladins themselves?"

I liked that you showed that the dragon father was indeed a crime lord and behaved as such, justifying threats, blackmail and racket as "reasonable" and treating anyone standing for what was right as deserving to be punished.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 10:57 AM
I liked that you showed that the dragon father was indeed a crime lord and behaved as such, justifying threats, blackmail and racket as "reasonable" and treating anyone standing for what was right as deserving to be punished.

Know what's funny? I didn't even specify; it's all left up to the imagination. :smallamused:

(The dragon father WAS Lawful Evil. I'm just throwing that out there.)

Aaron
2010-04-05, 11:08 AM
Best way to beat a dragon: make him eat a fireball! :smallbiggrin: Awesome!


Yay! Update! And I win 20 gp and 10 cp. I'm now... 10 cp wealthier than I was before. That's 1/10 XP. Woot!

Yay! Little dragon hid. I win 20 gp also. :smallbiggrin:


Ah!

The reason why I asked was because of this. (http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/163)

I also thought of that Anti-hero comic when I read this Coffee comic. :smallsmile::smallbiggrin:

dragongirl13
2010-04-05, 11:18 AM
Ah yes... the "swallow a delayed blast fireball" tactic. Anti-HEROES did that one too, if I recall correctly... but it's still awesome.

Hmm. That's gotta be traumatic. Poor dragon...

Keep up the awesome comics! :smallbiggrin:

Closak
2010-04-05, 12:19 PM
Serves the halfling right :smallmad:

Now if only the other two had an "Accident"

Maybe get their souls sucked out by Far Realm abominations...


Wonder what Lloyd has to say about this?
Or Radic for that matter?
And what about Janine?
Poor Matt got left out AGAIN!

Lix Lorn
2010-04-05, 01:05 PM
Poor Matti. XD

Holy flying macaroons, that's awesome. <3

Dark Faun
2010-04-05, 03:13 PM
Wonder what Lloyd has to say about this?
Or Radic for that matter?
And what about Janine?
I wonder what the dragonfather's victims have to say about this myself.

Asta Kask
2010-04-05, 03:18 PM
Yeah. The Godfather is a cool movie, but I'd hate to be part of the Corleones' business plan.

icastflare!
2010-04-05, 04:08 PM
i love this comic. and I feel bad for the dragon family.

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-05, 04:49 PM
poor kid :smalleek:ahh well, this is just the kind of revenge plot we need to get the dragon o join the party, to hunt down the children of those adventurers, and attempt to slay them, only realiseing near the end that by doing so, he would just become as bad as their fathers were ^^

Dark Faun
2010-04-05, 04:52 PM
I don't think Lloyd will let him do that.

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-05, 04:53 PM
and thats why he dosent tell Lloid :P

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 06:26 PM
I wonder what the dragonfather's victims have to say about this myself.

Discord, what do you think dragonfather did? (The dragon Lloyd and Co fought is going to elaborate a bit in the next comic.)

Oh, and just to elaborate, adding to Littledragon's trauma, the mercenaries are about to skin his parents and sister in the last panel. In front of him.

And no, the mercenaries wouldn't do that if they knew the little dragon was there. Because he'd be dead too.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-05, 06:35 PM
In conclusion: The Mercenaries actions do not necessarily make them evil. They are killing evil dragons.
However, they do not necessarily know they are evil, they take a lot of pleasure in doing it, and would kill them whether they are evil or not-plus would kill a young, nonevil dragon for associating with them. THIS makes them evil.
[/conclusion]

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 06:46 PM
In conclusion: The Mercenaries actions do not necessarily make them evil. They are killing evil dragons.
However, they do not necessarily know they are evil, they take a lot of pleasure in doing it, and would kill them whether they are evil or not-plus would kill a young, nonevil dragon for associating with them. THIS makes them evil.
[/conclusion]

But also, see Lloyd's shock. They all assumed: Green Dragon="Always" Lawful Evil=OK to kill. And even if that was the case, does it still make it okay? If they knew the baby dragon was there, they would have killed him without a second thought.

They're ruthless for sure, but are they evil...? I leave it for you to decide. :smallsmile: (Just try to keep the debating to a minimum; Discord doesn't like it much.)

Lix Lorn
2010-04-05, 06:48 PM
Ah, but the way they did it goes beyond flamboyant fighting. The way they spoke and acted implied a less noble purpose.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 06:52 PM
Ah, but the way they did it goes beyond flamboyant fighting. The way they spoke and acted implied a less noble purpose.

Exactly what I wanted to demonstrate here. :smallsmile:

I mean, if they fought the dragon family like Lloyd and co fought the one dragon, what would you have thought?

Lix Lorn
2010-04-05, 06:55 PM
And you do it *so* well. ^_^

Well... I'd still hate them. XD But when I thought about it, It would be purely an emotional response.

Dark Faun
2010-04-05, 07:08 PM
They all assumed: Green Dragon="Always" Lawful Evil=OK to kill.
The others might, but Lloyd? From his asking if the dragon was a menace for the town, it sounded like he wouldn't have hunted him down if he wasn't.


(Just try to keep the debating to a minimum; Discord doesn't like it much.)
I don't mind debating. I mind advocacy of genocide, posts that consist solely of "*kills guy I don't like*" and acting as if every [insert race member here] without exception is a misunderstood saint while every single other sentient being is a mass murdering child rapist.

It's distasteful.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-05, 07:14 PM
The others might, but Lloyd? From his asking if the dragon was a menace for the town, it sounded like he wouldn't have hunted him down if he wasn't.

Exactly. So there was a mistranslation here, or being overly dramatic, or just prejudice and fear.


I don't mind debating. I mind advocacy of genocide, posts that consist solely of "*kills guy I don't like*" and acting as if every [insert race member here] without exception is a misunderstood saint while every single other sentient being is a mass murdering child rapist.

It's distasteful.

And I find it distasteful too. :smallannoyed:

Dark Faun
2010-04-05, 07:28 PM
Exactly. So there was a mistranslation here, or being overly dramatic, or just prejudice and fear.
Well, when all of the chromatic dragons you ever hear about spend their time eating people and getting kicks out of it or being generally evil, and the one you personally knew was a crime lord who killed or maimed people who disagreed with him or their families (because I doubt he merely gave a wedgie to the guy who was annoyed at him), you don't tend to expect one of them to be nice. You wouldn't expect a Hun to come to your town for the sales and have a friendly chat with you over tea and cookies, would you?

Asta Kask
2010-04-06, 05:13 AM
You have a definite point there. It's also worth remembering that monsters in myths were just there for people to fight. Morality really never entered into it. Modern D&D could follow that tradition, if the DM wanted to.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-06, 06:41 AM
You have a definite point there. It's also worth remembering that monsters in myths were just there for people to fight. Morality really never entered into it. Modern D&D could follow that tradition, if the DM wanted to.
Yeah, but we artistic types like messing with people's heads by making the antagonists pro.

Closak
2010-04-06, 04:05 PM
...:smallamused:


Lloyd screamed.

Ever since that incident with the green dragon he had been having horrible nightmares, turns out a paladins immunity to fear did not apply to nightmares.

He sat up panting for breath.

"Holy..."

"Awww...little pally can't sleep, well tough luck!" The green dragon hissed, being understandably not in a very good mood at the moment.

"HEY! Watch your tone dragon" Matt warned.

"Umm...why is everyone awake? It's the middle of the night" Radic questioned from where she stood on guard duty.

"Because HE woke us up" Matt points accusingly at Lloyd.

Before anything more could be said they were interrupted by a loud voice.

"AHH Lloyd...you can...ahh...desecrate my temple...any day"

And that would be Janine, somehow still sleeping despite all the screaming.

Lloyd just stared.

Radic facepalmed.

Matt stared at Radic's butt.

The dragon grumbled about something to himself, something about rope...

Remus just twitched at the awkward feeling in the air.

"Why me?" Lloyd whispered to himself.

"I dunno, because you are a jerk?" Matt asked. He then screamed when Radic caught him checking her out and had Remus jump him.

THAT finally woke Janine up.

"Who...dares...interrupt...my...SLEEP!" She roared.

The dragon hid in the bushes.

Remus played dead.

Matt was on the ground moaning in agony.

Lloyd was pretending to be asleep.

Radic said "Matt did it!"

Poor Matt, there wasn't much left of him when Janine was finished

A bad attempt at a comedy...
Somehow i don't think i did a very good job :smallfrown:

Asta Kask
2010-04-06, 04:23 PM
I laughed.

Closak
2010-04-06, 04:32 PM
You did?

So it wasn't a total failure then...phew.

I'm curious about what Coffee will say when she sees this :smallamused:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-06, 05:33 PM
I liked it too. XD

Dark Faun
2010-04-06, 06:17 PM
It was certainly in character. Except Matt telling the green dragon to watch his tone, maybe.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-06, 06:33 PM
Praise from Discord! Closak wins indeed. :smalltongue:
Aww, I'm kidding Discord. (Hugs)

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-06, 07:09 PM
...Okay then. :smalltongue:

Closak
2010-04-07, 07:49 AM
Yeah, i thought Matt's warning was a little off to, but he seemed like the most likely to dislike the dragon and thus the most likely to take every opportunity to screw with him.

...I might try writing something more some other time, until then i need to escape from all this homework i'm buried alive in :smallannoyed:



EDIT: ...Okaaaay...i just had a thought.
Janine...with a banana fetish...in a place with a lot of bananas...and Lloyd is running around naked because the Green Dragon stole his clothes in an attempt to get revenge at him...and Matt is being torn apart by Dire Squirrels, courtesy of Radic.

...Someone slap me...

Asta Kask
2010-04-07, 12:53 PM
*slap*

Janine, Janine, Janine, Janine
Im begging of you please don't take my man
Janine, Janine, Janine, Janine
Please don't take him just because you can

Your beauty is beyond compare
With curly locks of raven hair
With ebon skin and eyes of emerald green

Your smile is like a breath of spring
Your voice is soft like summer rain
And I cannot compete with you, Janine

He talks about you in his sleep
There's nothing I can do to keep
From crying when he calls your name, Janine

And I can easily understand
How you could easily take my man
But you don't know what he means to me, Janine

Janine, Janine, Janine, Janine,
Im begging of you please don't take my man
Janine, Janine, Janine, Janine
Please don't take him just because you can

You could have your choice of men
But I could never love again
Hes the only one for me, Janine

I had to have this talk with you
My happiness depends on you
And whatever you decide to do, Janine

Janine, Janine, Janine, Janine,
Im begging of you please don't take my man
Janine, Janine, Janine, Janine
Please don't take him just because you can
Janine, Janine

Dark Faun
2010-04-07, 01:20 PM
The singer's Sandstorm, right? :smallwink:

Aaron
2010-04-08, 01:31 PM
...:smallamused:


Lloyd screamed.

Ever since that incident with the green dragon he had been having horrible nightmares, turns out a paladins immunity to fear did not apply to nightmares.

He sat up panting for breath.

"Holy..."

"Awww...little pally can't sleep, well tough luck!" The green dragon hissed, being understandably not in a very good mood at the moment.

"HEY! Watch your tone dragon" Matt warned.

"Umm...why is everyone awake? It's the middle of the night" Radic questioned from where she stood on guard duty.

"Because HE woke us up" Matt points accusingly at Lloyd.

Before anything more could be said they were interrupted by a loud voice.

"AHH Lloyd...you can...ahh...desecrate my temple...any day"

And that would be Janine, somehow still sleeping despite all the screaming.

Lloyd just stared.

Radic facepalmed.

Matt stared at Radic's butt.

The dragon grumbled about something to himself, something about rope...

Remus just twitched at the awkward feeling in the air.

"Why me?" Lloyd whispered to himself.

"I dunno, because you are a jerk?" Matt asked. He then screamed when Radic caught him checking her out and had Remus jump him.

THAT finally woke Janine up.

"Who...dares...interrupt...my...SLEEP!" She roared.

The dragon hid in the bushes.

Remus played dead.

Matt was on the ground moaning in agony.

Lloyd was pretending to be asleep.

Radic said "Matt did it!"

Poor Matt, there wasn't much left of him when Janine was finished

A bad attempt at a comedy...
Somehow i don't think i did a very good job :smallfrown:

:smallbiggrin: I laughed alot! That was really funny Closak. :smallbiggrin::smallsmile:

I really liked:


Before anything more could be said they were interrupted by a loud voice.

"AHH Lloyd...you can...ahh...desecrate my temple...any day"

And that would be Janine, somehow still sleeping despite all the screaming.

Lloyd just stared.

Radic facepalmed.

Matt stared at Radic's butt.

The dragon grumbled about something to himself, something about rope...

Remus just twitched at the awkward feeling in the air.

:smallamused::smallbiggrin::smallwink:

Asta Kask
2010-04-08, 03:06 PM
Matt stared at Radic's butt.

Clearly a man who understands what's important in life.

Closak
2010-04-08, 03:08 PM
And also the universes favorite chew toy.

*Watches as Matt get's hit by lightning even though there isn't a single cloud in the sky*

See?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-08, 03:12 PM
Clearly a man who understands what's important in life.

And also a complete idiot. Janine would be much more receptive to his...Requests. :smallamused:

Update tomorrow!

Asta Kask
2010-04-08, 03:15 PM
I thought Janine was pursuing Lloyd? Is she willing to be distracted from the main target?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-08, 03:17 PM
I thought Janine was pursuing Lloyd? Is she willing to be distracted from the main target?

Give her a couple of months. Or a trip into the elven lands. :smallamused:

Herpestidae
2010-04-08, 03:17 PM
I thought Janine was pursuing Lloyd? Is she willing to be distracted from the main target?

My guess is that after a while, she takes what she can get.

Closak
2010-04-08, 03:46 PM
...*Slips love potion into Radic's food*

Mehehehehe :smallamused:

*Slips love potion in the dragons food too* (Evil grin)

Radic/Green dragon
Or druid/dragon

Poor Matt got left out yet again (Sadistic smile) *Hides from the angry rogue*

Zanaril
2010-04-08, 04:31 PM
Or a trip into the elven lands. :smallamused:
Please tell me they're not going to run into V's parents. :smalltongue:

Silverraptor
2010-04-08, 10:12 PM
Please tell me they're not going to run into V's parents. :smalltongue:

Of course not, that would be silly.:smalltongue:

Zanaril
2010-04-09, 03:40 AM
Of course not, that would be silly.:smalltongue:

Instead we'll find out that all elves are like that? :smalleek:

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-09, 04:25 AM
maby Jasmine is the kind of woman who persues one target to the ends of the earth untill she gets her way. then, seconds after she finally sucseeds, she finds herself a new target, and begins anew.


lather, rinse, brain-bleach, repeat.

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 05:32 AM
maby Jasmine is the kind of woman who persues one target to the ends of the earth untill she gets her way. then, seconds after she finally sucseeds, she finds herself a new target, and begins anew.


lather, rinse, brain-bleach, repeat.

Janine. And yes, that's the impression I get too. Almost as if Lloyd's reluctance is a personal affront to her... and I don't see her as the faithful type.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 12:59 PM
Sometimes, I think that we spend too much time analyzing the personality and motivation of comic characters.
It passes quickly.

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 01:19 PM
Sometimes, I think that we spend too much time analyzing the personality and motivation of comic characters.
It passes quickly.

I worry that we don't spend enough time. The consequences could be dire! DIRE!

Closak
2010-04-09, 01:58 PM
Well, we should be getting an update soon :smallsmile:

*Sits and waits like a good little dragon*

...:smallamused:...

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 02:00 PM
Sometimes, I think that we spend too much time analyzing the personality and motivation of comic characters.
It passes quickly.

Oh, we're just getting started here...:smallamused:


Janine. And yes, that's the impression I get too. Almost as if Lloyd's reluctance is a personal affront to her... and I don't see her as the faithful type.

Janine definitely has a hedonistic streak.

And Lloyd's given her the most trouble so far. Then again, pretty much every other guy was in a tavern or brothel. Except the first few, but she was with other clerics in training for those.

And I'm starting the comic right now!

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 02:23 PM
Woot! Update! Update!

I've gotten the impression that the trip to the Elven Lands is going to be more traumatic than erotic. But I could be wrong.

Aaron
2010-04-09, 02:29 PM
I worry that we don't spend enough time. The consequences could be dire! DIRE!

Continue the mass speculating! The Murphy's law plot demands it!!!:smallbiggrin::smalltongue:


Well, we should be getting an update soon :smallsmile:

*Sits and waits like a good little dragon*

...:smallamused:...

Good boy. :smallsmile::smalltongue:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 02:36 PM
I've gotten the impression that the trip to the Elven Lands is going to be more traumatic than erotic. But I could be wrong.
I somehow expect both. XD

YAY FOR UPDATE
(Waits like good kuppygirl)

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 02:41 PM
There are definite limits to how traumatic the eroticism can be according to the board rules... :smallsmile:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 03:16 PM
Shame. XD
...
(Bored waiting)
(Snuggles Asta)

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 03:19 PM
Shame. XD
...
(Bored waiting)
(Snuggles Asta)

(snuggles back)

What do you think of Lloyd and Janine? Do they have a future together?

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 03:25 PM
^_^

It depends, really, on whether Janine is going after him because she really, really loves him (In which case it might work) or just cause he's a difficult target, in which case no chance. XD

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 03:28 PM
Mmm... or sex somehow leads to love. It has happened.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 03:31 PM
Possible... but it'd be harder to persuade Lloyd in that scenario. So less likely, methinks.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 03:36 PM
What about Radic and Matt? :smalltongue:

Update time! Yippee! :smallbiggrin: (You know how much I love those comments! :smallwink:)

#29: Matt's Best Chance
http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac294/caffeineincluded/MattsBestChance.png

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 03:37 PM
Lloyd, overcome with grief goes on a drinking binge and ends up praying to the Great White Porcelain God. Janine sees and helps out, takes him home and what happens... happens.

(This is not very likely, of course. If Lloyd's had that much, not much can happen.)

Edit: Radic's speech balloon in panel two looks like it comes from Lloyd's halberd. And this does not fly, not at all. He could at least leave some gold at the farms where he snacked.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 03:41 PM
Lloyd, overcome with grief goes on a drinking binge and ends up praying to the Great White Porcelain God. Janine sees and helps out, takes him home and what happens... happens.

(This is not very likely, of course. If Lloyd's had that much, not much can happen.)

Edit: Radic's speech balloon in panel two looks like it comes from Lloyd's halberd. And this does not fly, not at all. He could at least leave some gold at the farms where he snacked.

Whoops, sorry. I'll try to fix it right now. But did you like it?

EDIT: Huh? I fixed it; why won't it show?

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 03:45 PM
I like it. XD
Why is Radic so scared? Is she a virgin?

Dark Faun
2010-04-09, 03:46 PM
Haha, I actually expected the dragon father to never have killed anyone.

Though... "Matt's Best Chance?" :smallconfused:

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 03:46 PM
Whoops, sorry. I'll try to fix it right now. But did you like it?

Sorry, panel 4.

Yeah, I liked it. It will be interesting to see how the party reacts, including Matt. I suppose he's snuggling the hoard... (and it would be too cluttered with all of them there anyway).

And this just drives home the dangers of virginity!


Haha, I actually expected the dragon father to never have killed anyone.

Though... "Matt's Best Chance?" :smallconfused:

To run away while they're all talking to Greensleaves?


I like it. XD
Why is Radic so scared? Is she a virgin?

I believe that is canon, yes. Quick Radic, jump Matt while you still can!

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 03:52 PM
Dammit, it's still not working. Know what? Screw it. :smallannoyed:


Yeah, I liked it. It will be interesting to see how the party reacts, including Matt. I suppose he's snuggling the hoard... (and it would be too cluttered with all of them there anyway).


And when the dragon finds out...:smallamused:



I like it. XD
Why is Radic so scared? Is she a virgin?

The only one in the group. :smallamused:


Though... "Matt's Best Chance?"

Asta got the joke:


I believe that is canon, yes. Quick Radic, jump Matt while you still can!

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 03:55 PM
Maybe she'll go for Lloyd. Then we can get a cat-fight between Janine and Radic! And it'll end in a nude-mud-wrestling contest between them! :smallbiggrin:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 03:56 PM
Haha. Poor Radic... I'll help you! :smallbiggrin:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 03:56 PM
Maybe she'll go for Lloyd. Then we can get a cat-fight between Janine and Radic! And it'll end in a nude-mud-wrestling contest between them! :smallbiggrin:

...So you actually want me to get banned? :smalltongue:

Closak
2010-04-09, 03:57 PM
Lloyd is looking slightly annoyed there.

Wait...they killed them because of smuggling?
That stinks of Evil alignment to me.
Hope they burn...:smallmad:

Sure, put them on trial, fine them, but don't kill them, geez.


I'm with the dragon here, it was only a few cows and he would have starved otherwise, besides, chances are the reason there is no deer around is because the townsfolk hunted them all down already.
Though admitedly he could have left some sort of payment...

The virgin blood thing...let's just give him a rap on the fingers and leave it at that.


...Radic? What's up?
...:smallamused: *Carves "Radic X Green Dragon" into a tree*

*Escapes*

Aaron
2010-04-09, 03:57 PM
I knew it! The mayor lied! :smallannoyed::smallfurious: I win 20 GP. Yay! :smallbiggrin::smallsmile:


I like it. XD
Why is Radic so scared? Is she a virgin?

:smallconfused:...You mean you haven't figured it out yet?!?!

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 04:07 PM
Course I did!
(Lying)
Drinking virgin blood is bad... but he didn't kill them. XD

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 04:09 PM
Lloyd is looking slightly annoyed there.

Wait...they killed them because of smuggling?
That stinks of Evil alignment to me.
Hope they burn...:smallmad:

Sure, put them on trial, fine them, but don't kill them, geez.


I'm with the dragon here, it was only a few cows and he would have starved otherwise, besides, chances are the reason there is no deer around is because the townsfolk hunted them all down already.
Though admitedly he could have left some sort of payment...

The virgin blood thing...let's just give him a rap on the fingers and leave it at that.


...Radic? What's up?
...:smallamused: *Carves "Radic X Green Dragon" into a tree*

*Escapes*

You're making the dragons seem more innocent than they are. They didn't deserve death, especially of that kind, but they were nowhere near innocent either.

The smuggling ring made trade between the northern and southern Kyarian city-states a nightmare, and also made it extremely difficult to trade with Tobeem, to the north. Furthermore, the dragon father did use intimidation to get what he wanted, even if he didn't severely injure/kill anyone.

Also, the fact that this younger dragon didn't pay, even if he only stole out of desperation, is why he's Lawful Neutral. And there ARE deer in the forest, just so you know. Natural population cycles; it was a low point. (And please don't try to contradict me on natural population cycles; I've gotten awards in ecology.)

And the virgin's blood thing is best left as a noodle incident. :smallamused:

However, this, combined with the history of the dragon family, and fear, led the mayor to decide that this dragon was only going to do worse, and better to slay the dragon when it's younger. So no, the mayor did not lie. He just didn't know all the factors. There's no way he could have noticed all the factors.

Asta Kask
2010-04-09, 04:12 PM
However, this, combined with the history of the dragon family, and fear, led the mayor to decide that this dragon was only going to do worse, and better to slay the dragon when it's younger. So no, the mayor did not lie. He just didn't know all the factors. There's no way he could have noticed all the factors.

In fact, a Lawful Neutral person could be argued to have a duty to take revenge on the people who killed his father.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 04:16 PM
In fact, a Lawful Neutral person could be argued to have a duty to take revenge on the people who killed his father.

Ooh, nice thought.
...curses, we already made the princess bride reference.

'Offer me anything I want!'
'Anything!'
'(Acid breath) I want my family back, you son of a mammal.'

Closak
2010-04-09, 04:19 PM
'Offer me anything I want!'
'Anything!'
'(Acid breath) I want my family back, you son of a mammal.'

That, so very much.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 04:20 PM
That line is so crowning moment of awesome. It's just overshadowed by the famous bit.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 04:24 PM
Oh, I'm sure there will be at least one Princess Bride reference in here...:smallamused:

If I may ask, what did you like best about this comic?

And Asta, that will be answered next week. :smallamused:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 04:26 PM
<3 You rock.
I loved Radic's expression at the end. XD

Silverraptor
2010-04-09, 06:20 PM
Encore! Bravo! Funny joke!:smallbiggrin:

And when you have the pateince again to find out why you can't change the comic, please do so.

Dark Faun
2010-04-09, 06:30 PM
Maybe she'll go for Lloyd. Then we can get a cat-fight between Janine and Radic! And it'll end in a nude-mud-wrestling contest between them! :smallbiggrin:
Can't we have that between Lloyd and Matt instead? :smalltongue:


Dammit, it's still not working. Know what? Screw it. :smallannoyed:
I cleared my cache to see if it had something to do with it, but it surprisingly doesn't. :smallconfused:


Asta got the joke:
Oh. I thought Radic was scared because it's creepy.


...Radic? What's up?
...:smallamused: *Carves "Radic X Green Dragon" into a tree*

*Escapes*
You better escape. Hurting a tree in front of a druid? Dead doesn't start to describe what you'll be if Radic catches you.

Besides, did you see the smile he and Janine shot each other? They're totally going to end up together. :smallwink:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 06:34 PM
Encore! Bravo! Funny joke!:smallbiggrin:

And when you have the pateince again to find out why you can't change the comic, please do so.

Not this weekend. Sorry. And thank you!


Can't we have that between Lloyd and Matt instead?

Janine: *Perks up*

Matt: WHY GOD WHY?!

Lloyd: *Facepalm*


Oh. I thought Radic was scared because it's creepy.

And "Oh, crap."


Besides, did you see the smile he and Janine shot each other? They're totally going to end up together.

Actually, that was...It's kinda hard to explain, but it wasn't sexual in nature.

Dark Faun
2010-04-09, 06:47 PM
I have no doubt. I was just channeling my inner shipping self, aka "OHMYGOSHTHEYLOOKEDATEACHOTHEROHTEEPEEEEE!" :smalltongue:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-09, 07:37 PM
Please. A true shipper doesn't need EVIDENCE.

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-09, 09:01 PM
The only one in the group. :smallamused:

i am honestly surprised Lloid, as a palidan, isent one too o.0



of corse we dont need proof! i support the shipping of two charicters in the "golden sun" games, who barely even LOOK at eachoher!

Dark Faun
2010-04-09, 09:20 PM
i am honestly surprised Lloid, as a palidan, isent one too o.0
Don't forget he was a Fighter for two levels before becoming a Paladin. Then he jaywalked and Astrid guilted him into serving her so that she could stare at his butt all day on the pretext of "watching over my followers."

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-09, 09:44 PM
i am honestly surprised Lloid, as a palidan, isent one too o.0.

...He's 28. :smalltongue:


Don't forget he was a Fighter for two levels before becoming a Paladin. Then he jaywalked and Astrid guilted him into serving her so that she could stare at his butt all day on the pretext of "watching over my followers."

How do we know that's what happened? :smallamused:

EDIT: Hey, the typo's fixed! :smallbiggrin:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-10, 01:08 PM
You know that doin' it isn't a sin, right? XD

Wait, Discord, even Astrid likes Lloyd? Next we're going to be suggested LloydDragon.

...

(Ships LloydDragon)

Closak
2010-04-10, 01:10 PM
You forgot the genderbend belt *Supplies*

Now Lloyd is a girl! *Laughs at the ensuing scene*

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-10, 01:13 PM
You know that doin' it isn't a sin, right? XD

Janine: Follows of Astrid aren't supposed to cut themselves off from mortal activities. We're supposed to enjoy and take pleasure in all aspects of life, while thanking her for granting us the opportunity to enjoy them.


Wait, Discord, even Astrid likes Lloyd?)

He's got 16 charisma and is, canonically, quite handsome. :smallamused:

Asta Kask
2010-04-10, 01:14 PM
Janine: Follows of Astrid aren't supposed to cut themselves off from mortal activities. We're supposed to enjoy and take pleasure in all aspects of life, while thanking her for granting us the opportunity to enjoy them.

And Lloyd's comeback?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-10, 01:44 PM
And Lloyd's comeback?

Lloyd: I don't enjoy one-night stands.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-10, 02:45 PM
You forgot the genderbend belt *Supplies*

Now Lloyd is a girl! *Laughs at the ensuing scene*

Wow. Now he really DOES have a lot in common with Roy.

Also, nice putdown, Lloyd-y boy.

Asta Kask
2010-04-10, 03:23 PM
Lloyd: I don't enjoy one-night stands.

But she has boobs that enable her to cast Suggestion 3/day, on gynophiliacs only. That's an inherent perk to being female.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-10, 03:33 PM
But she has boobs that enable her to cast Suggestion 3/day, on gynophiliacs only. That's an inherent perk to being female.

He's actually got a pretty nice will save. Plus Janine's wearing unisex chainmail. :smallamused:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-10, 03:43 PM
Huh. Silly Janine. She shoulda taken advantage of the seventh law of anime physics: Female armour affords protection directly proportional to the amount of revealed skin.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-10, 03:46 PM
Huh. Silly Janine. She shoulda taken advantage of the seventh law of anime physics: Female armour affords protection directly proportional to the amount of revealed skin.

Especially since Charisma is her second-highest stat. :smallamused:

(Her highest is Wisdom, in case you were curious.)

Herpestidae
2010-04-10, 03:50 PM
The only one in the group. :smallamused:

Part of me is wondering if you counted Remus as part of the group.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-10, 03:58 PM
Part of me is wondering if you counted Remus as part of the group.
You think Radic watches Remus 24/7? Neutering dogs wasn't exactly a regular occurence back then. :smalltongue:

But I digress.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-10, 04:02 PM
...part of me wants to know if charisma has anything to do with Talent.
(Sailor Moon fans will get what I mean. Otherwise... guess.)

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-11, 06:37 AM
You know, anyone ever wonder how sad it is that we are discussing the relationships of fictional characters that we (by that I mean coffee and raptor) have complete and total control over? all the while neglecting our own lives and relationships?


...Yeah me neither :smallbiggrin:



I still got 20GP saying the dragon joins the party. And last-minute takers?

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-11, 06:39 AM
I still got 20GP saying the dragon joins the party. And last-minute takers?

The "Dragon" mini-arc is winding down; it'll end on Friday, if I plan it right. :smallwink:

Asta Kask
2010-04-11, 07:07 AM
You think Radic watches Remus 24/7? Neutering dogs wasn't exactly a regular occurence back then. :smalltongue:

But I digress.

And God forbid digression ever happen on a web forum. Or in a real-life conversation, for that matter. When I talk to my friends we always stay closely focused on the topic and never spend half-an-hour discussing Babylon 5 references. Never.

Closak
2010-04-11, 07:09 AM
Looking forward to it Coffee. :smallsmile:

While i wait i think i'm going to go kill some monsters.

Dhe Emn

...Not this again...

*Goes hunting for Monthy Python Killer Rabbits*
DIE KILLER RABBITS! YOU HAVE SHREDDED YOUR LAST KNIGHT!

The Dark Fiddler
2010-04-11, 07:41 AM
...part of me wants to know if charisma has anything to do with Talent.
(Sailor Moon fans will get what I mean. Otherwise... guess read TVTropes.)

Fixed that for you. :smalltongue:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-11, 08:14 AM
DXD
Accursed TVTropes.

...
Isn't it Friday yet? :smallmad:

Zigg'rrauglurr
2010-04-11, 08:41 PM
#29: Matt's Best Chance:

Great representation of the character feelings through their expressions, I liked each of the panels. The joke was well executed and fairly unexpected. Reminds you that he is a Dragon after all. I am very anxious to know what happens next, and see if he can elaborate on the virgin issue.

Only doubt, I don't understand the reason for the title. (I recognize I hadn't read the thread, so if already answered, my fault)

Cheers!

Dark Faun
2010-04-11, 08:47 PM
Only doubt, I don't understand the reason for the title. (I recognize I hadn't read the thread, so if already answered, my fault)
They got it:


Why is Radic so scared? Is she a virgin?


I believe that is canon, yes. Quick Radic, jump Matt while you still can!

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-11, 09:15 PM
#29: Matt's Best Chance:

Great representation of the character feelings through their expressions, I liked each of the panels. The joke was well executed and fairly unexpected. Reminds you that he is a Dragon after all. I am very anxious to know what happens next, and see if he can elaborate on the virgin issue.

Only doubt, I don't understand the reason for the title. (I recognize I hadn't read the thread, so if already answered, my fault)

Cheers!

Why, thank you! I hope you continue to enjoy the comic! :smallbiggrin:

And sorry, but that's not going to happen. The "Virgin's Blood" incident will forever be left unexplained and to the imagination of each individual. It really is just a one-off gag. Though whatever the dragon said is true. :smalltongue:

And yes, the title has already been explained. :smalltongue:

Aaron
2010-04-12, 11:00 AM
He's got 16 charisma and is, canonically, quite handsome. :smallamused:

Oh, the irony! :smallamused:


He's actually got a pretty nice will save. Plus Janine's wearing unisex chainmail. :smallamused:

Thats like a -5 penalty to charisma. :smallannoyed:


Huh. Silly Janine. She shoulda taken advantage of the seventh law of anime physics: Female armour affords protection directly proportional to the amount of revealed skin.

Matt got it right back in comic #9. (http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac294/caffeineincluded/DontWorryTheWeaselsAlright.png) Less is more! :smallamused::smallbiggrin:

Closak
2010-04-12, 03:32 PM
...I have a cracky idea...:smallamused:

An Eeeeeviiiil cracky idea.

Because after all, in all the billions of alternate timelines and possible universes it HAD to happen somewhere right?


...Gonna have to wait with writing it though until i know the Green Dragon a little better...

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-12, 03:34 PM
...I have a cracky idea...:smallamused:

An Eeeeeviiiil cracky idea.

Because after all, in all the billions of alternate timelines and possible universes it HAD to happen somewhere right?


...Gonna have to wait with writing it though until i know the Green Dragon a little better...

Oooh. Surprise me! Just remember to make it board-appropriate!

Asta Kask
2010-04-12, 03:51 PM
Oooh. Surprise me! Just remember to make it board-appropriate!

So... do we get an update this week? I understand if you haven't got the time, but hope springs eternal?

*wags tail*

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-12, 03:56 PM
So... do we get an update this week? I understand if you haven't got the time, but hope springs eternal?

*wags tail*

I already said there would be an update on Friday! :smallbiggrin:

Lix Lorn
2010-04-12, 03:56 PM
I'd be afraid, Coffee. When a pairing is explained using the infinite multiverse theory, it's gonna be CRACKY.

Closak
2010-04-12, 04:06 PM
Oh, you don't know the half of it.

Though there may be something you...recognize in there Lix.

A certain...monster shall we say that i think you are familiar with...
Poor Matt, can anyone here cast Regenerate? Because Matt is going to need it.
Gouging your own eyes out are you now Matt?
Probably some brain bleach too...
And a psychiatrist...

Lix Lorn
2010-04-12, 04:06 PM
You double posted, Chloe. xD
Hmm... the master?

Closak
2010-04-12, 04:08 PM
Yeah, i noticed.

I deleted the extra post.

And you just have to wait and see for yourself.


For the record, The Eye is watching...always watching (Paranoid)
...Not that eye :smallsigh:

CrimsonAngel
2010-04-12, 04:49 PM
I have never seen a comic on this forum do so well. :smalleek:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-12, 04:51 PM
You double posted, Chloe. xD
Hmm... the master?

The master? What's that?

Closak, just please remember to stay within board rules, alright?


I have never seen a comic on this forum do so well. :smalleek:

Uhh...Thanks? You like? :smalltongue:

CrimsonAngel
2010-04-12, 04:53 PM
I do! I love this comic!

Silverraptor
2010-04-12, 05:12 PM
And thus we have another Sucker Victim Reader to this fan comic.:smallamused:

The Dark Fiddler
2010-04-12, 05:23 PM
Hmm... the master?

The drums! THE DRUMS! Doctor Who?

Lix Lorn
2010-04-12, 05:34 PM
The drums! THE DRUMS! Doctor Who?

I can't deciiiide whether you should live or die~♪

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-13, 12:13 AM
i think the master would be buisy playing on the new "project natal" right now :P


FWI: "project Natal" is a vidio game. not anything else your thinking of. look it up!


and back on topic:


green dragon... joins party.. yeaaah i got nothin...


GO RADIC!

Closak
2010-04-13, 06:12 AM
The drums! THE DRUMS! Doctor Who?

Wrong master.

The master is...i have said to much, you cannot be allowed to live unless you swear your loyalty *Prepares to cast DOOM on you if you refuse*



Yeah, i sincerely hope that the Green Dragon get's dragged along with Lloyd and the horndogs(tm)
...I'm a Radic/Green Dragon shipper...:smallwink: (Hint hint)

Lix Lorn
2010-04-13, 10:38 AM
We've been through this, Chloe, I'm higher level than you. (Smirk)
Hmm... Master forces Radic and Verde to sign a breeding contract?

Dvandemon
2010-04-14, 03:23 PM
Ooh! Hey Coffee, I just had a hopefully decent idea. If that green dragon (his name skips my mind at the moment) joins the group you should give him a Caustic Creeper (If he was a ranger).

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-14, 05:10 PM
Ooh! Hey Coffee, I just had a hopefully decent idea. If that green dragon (his name skips my mind at the moment) joins the group you should give him a Caustic Creeper (If he was a ranger).

Uhm, I don't mean to be rude, but what's a Caustic Creeper?
(I'm only using core here. I don't know the game well, and I don't want to mess with copyright laws.)
Also, the dragon's name hasn't been given yet.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-14, 05:12 PM
I call him Verdis. :3

Dvandemon
2010-04-14, 06:50 PM
Uhm, I don't mean to be rude, but what's a Caustic Creeper?
(I'm only using core here. I don't know the game well, and I don't want to mess with copyright laws.)
Also, the dragon's name hasn't been given yet.

Oh, right the copyright laws, forgot about those. Okay, so basically a Caustic Creeper is a green dog bred specifically for Green Dragons (CR 3). I remember three abilities:
1)Bully-It gains a varied bonus to attack against fearful opponents (i.e. Panicked, Shaken, Cornered, etc.)
2)+8 to hide checks in grassy areas
3)Acid Wounds-When attacked the enemy takes (1d6?) acid damage from its acidic blood.

I know you most likely never heard of it I just wanted an excuse to bring it up. It fit perfectly for this, If only for fanart

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-14, 08:12 PM
Oh, right the copyright laws, forgot about those. Okay, so basically a Caustic Creeper is a green dog bred specifically for Green Dragons (CR 3). I remember three abilities:
1)Bully-It gains a varied bonus to attack against fearful opponents (i.e. Panicked, Shaken, Cornered, etc.)
2)+8 to hide checks in grassy areas
3)Acid Wounds-When attacked the enemy takes (1d6?) acid damage from its acidic blood.

I know you most likely never heard of it I just wanted an excuse to bring it up. It fit perfectly for this, If only for fanart

That would be cool, but if the dragon were to join the party, he'd really have to fly under the radar.

Lix Lorn
2010-04-15, 05:43 AM
That would be cool, but if the dragon were to join the party, he'd really have to fly under the radar.
Pun not intended? XD

Draconi Redfir
2010-04-15, 01:00 PM
hecould always just claim to be a dragonblood sorcerer or somethin.

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-15, 01:56 PM
Pun not intended? XD

Pun completely intended. :smallamused:

Gicko, the problem there is that we're talking green dragon here. And remember what the dragon said about the Paladins of Kago?

Closak
2010-04-15, 02:09 PM
Totally ruthless [EXPLETIVES] who kill on sight?

A entire order of Miko's?


Yeah, better keep a low profile...:smalleek:

CoffeeIncluded
2010-04-15, 02:15 PM
Totally ruthless [EXPLETIVES] who kill on sight?

A entire order of Miko's?


Yeah, better keep a low profile...:smalleek:

Take a look at comics 21 and 25...:smalleek: Also note Lloyd's reaction when he is accused of being one of them.