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Greenish
2010-06-18, 01:00 PM
So, we've had a couple of threads for pretty ladies, handsome gentlemen and other such eye-candy, so in the same vein, this is a thread about cool, weird, beautiful or otherwise eye-catching weapons.

So, you've got a picture or drawing of a weapon you like, post it here. It can be as silly or as realistic as you want, we're not going to mock you (for longer than a few pages, anyway).

I'll start with a quite simple bearded axe: http://www.wealddown.co.uk/images%20shop/4903LE%20axe.jpgIt does look business.

I'll also plop in a very elegant-looking sword I also posted in another thread (which got me thinking about this):http://www.thearma.org/essays/armoredlongsword/armoredls1.jpg


[Edit]: These ridiculous accusations that I'd had written "SWF" instead of "SFW" in the title of this thread are quite baseless, and this edit is just to remind everyone that no such mistake has been made or indeed even could have been made. The thread title most certainly wasn't "fixed" afterwards! /jedi mindcontrol handwave

Fax Celestis
2010-06-18, 01:05 PM
Quite unpractical, but I have a fondness for both black powder weapons and katars.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/FaxCelestis/1235587878240.jpg

Blackfang108
2010-06-18, 01:06 PM
Quite unpractical, but I have a fondness for both black powder weapons and katars.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/FaxCelestis/1235587878240.jpg

I want one.

Well... Two.

Zovc
2010-06-18, 01:07 PM
The term is "Safe For Work," SFW, not SWF. (Which means... Silly Wrong Formation? HA!)

And at OP's Axe... I prefer my weapons be ladies. (...not bearded ladies.)

Beelzebub1111
2010-06-18, 01:11 PM
There are no words to describe this weapon.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2ujqefd.jpg

Worira
2010-06-18, 01:12 PM
"Impractical"? "Fragile"?

Greenish
2010-06-18, 01:13 PM
The term is "Safe For Work," SFW, not SWF. (Which means... Silly Wrong Formation? HA!)Figuring out the meaning of the contraction is left as an exercise for the reader.

And at OP's Axe... I prefer my weapons be ladies. (...not bearded ladies.)Sometimes you're traveling with a circus and don't have much of a choice.

Anyways, this pretty lil' thing is called Shamshir (or so I am told): http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1700_1799/localrulers/weapons/shamshir.jpg

Zovc
2010-06-18, 01:14 PM
Anyways, this pretty lil' thing is called Shamshir (or so I am told): http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00routesdata/1700_1799/localrulers/weapons/shamshir.jpg

If I'm not mistaken, Mitsurugi had a weapon called Shamshir in either Soul Calibur II or II that looked almost exactly like that.

Spiryt
2010-06-18, 01:16 PM
http://bjorn.foxtail.nu/images/lucernehammer.jpg

Lucerne hammer by Peter Johnsson.


This gentleman axe (http://www.myarmoury.com/nateb_othr_mrl_troll.html)

Few from memory.

Greenish
2010-06-18, 01:18 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Mitsurugi had a weapon called Shamshir in either Soul Calibur II or II that looked almost exactly like that.It had quite a bit of more curve and a cross that went over the knuckles. Oh, and it was ridiculously large and thick, but then it's a videogame.

Kiren
2010-06-18, 01:19 PM
Greatest hammer of all time, (The name of contains one word of foul language, the weapon itself is SFW)

Here (http://pyru.tumblr.com/post/296758560)

Beelzebub1111
2010-06-18, 01:20 PM
The Godendag. Brutal, efficient, sexy.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2hce0e9.jpg

Kiren
2010-06-18, 01:25 PM
Almost forgot these, the twin hook swords, capable of being linked together two double the length of your strike, in one devastating slash, by a skilled user.

http://images.solidcactus.com/swblades/twinhooksword.jpg

Knaight
2010-06-18, 01:30 PM
Hmm. Ranged weapons time. There are a few, this spoiler is on the large size.

http://slinging.org/uploads/images/member/benjamin_scott/ben_scott_bw3.jpg
http://slinging.org/uploads/images/member/benjamin_scott/ben_scott_bw1.jpg
http://slinging.org/uploads/images/member/benjamin_scott/ben_scott_k023.jpg
http://slinging.org/uploads/images/member/benjamin_scott/ben_scott_Slings001.jpg
http://slinging.org/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/l_eca358e97b304489ac4ccdf5ea0ca35f.jpg
http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz119/paleoarts/atlatls/100_3324640x480.jpg

Yes, they are all slings and atlatls.

Curmudgeon
2010-06-18, 01:31 PM
Buffy's ultimate vamp killer:
http://steelcloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/buffy-scythe.jpg
and here somebody made themselves a replica:
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs43/PRE/f/2009/147/c/f/Buffy__s_Scythe_by_ThePyromancer.jpg

Mushroom Ninja
2010-06-18, 01:31 PM
I like this one:
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh225/tomorrowneverknow/Bronze%20swords%20of%20ancient%20China/QFA-116-v.jpg

Spiryt
2010-06-18, 01:31 PM
The Godendag. Brutal, efficient, sexy.
http://i49.tinypic.com/2hce0e9.jpg

Actually, that's more like somehow crude morningstar (as the look suggest).

This is most popular view of how godendag looked :

http://www.liebaart.org/figuren/goedendr.jpg

Not that people were really strict about those things.

As far as fantasy goes, hard to beat John Lundemo swords:

Album (http://picasaweb.google.com/JordanMAbernethy/MySword?feat=directlink#)

Marvelous.

Mushroom Ninja
2010-06-18, 01:34 PM
Not complete weapons, but cool nonetheless:
http://therionarms.com/armor/polearm2.jpg

Knaight
2010-06-18, 02:10 PM
Partisan Heads
http://www.georgehernandez.com/h/xMartialArts/Media/Arms/Partisans.gif
Partisans
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Yeomen_of_the_Guard.JPG/220px-Yeomen_of_the_Guard.JPG

Susano-wo
2010-06-18, 02:20 PM
Fax: That is awesome incarnate!

also, to contribute... A scythe!
http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/127439/death-scythe-hell-cartoon.jpg


Ok, seriously, I do like the feel of a scythe. Its such a stylish weapon. ^ ^

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/phyreblade_blog/Weapons/Monster%20Scythe/monster_scythe_540px.jpg

RandomLunatic
2010-06-18, 02:20 PM
Apache knuckleduster. A favorite of Parisian street toughs, it made up for failing as not one but three different weapons (revolver, knife, and brass knuckles) by looking totally badass.
http://www.horstheld.com/1578-c.JPG

Also, this.

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/6/12/633488359870176648-Lightsaber.jpg

DragoonWraith
2010-06-18, 02:22 PM
Apache knuckleduster. A favorite of Parisian street toughs, it made up for failing as not one but three different weapons (revolver, knife, and brass knuckles) by looking totally badass
My issue here is that you can't use the knife or gun while wearing the knuckles. They'd be pointed towards you...

The Dark Fiddler
2010-06-18, 02:22 PM
Hmm, they can be silly you say?

Well, I love the Keyblade. I dunno why, I just do.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100117204354/kingdomhearts/images/9/91/Kingdom_Key.png

I think my favorites though, are the Way To Dawn, Two Across, and Oblivion.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080519072250/kingdomhearts/images/2/21/Riku_Way_to_Dawn.png
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090227034835/kingdomhearts/images/b/be/Two_across.png
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080521054922/kingdomhearts/images/0/03/Oblivion.png

RandomLunatic
2010-06-18, 02:28 PM
My issue here is that you can't use the knife or gun while wearing the knuckles. They'd be pointed towards you...

Not to mention the revolver, with no barrel to speak of, has an effective range of about six inches, and the knife is really no good for anything other than use as a letter-opener. Like I said, it fails at being three weapons in one.

Now here is a gun that is not messing around...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/GAU-8_avenger.jpg

erikun
2010-06-18, 02:29 PM
I'm a fan of the Khopesh. It combines the stabbing of the sword with the hacking of the axe! Although I am realizing now that straight swords are a lot better at the stabbing through stuff.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Einrick/Khopesh_5999.jpg
http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/images/deepeeka-khopesh.jpg
http://www.kultofathena.com/images/AH4316.jpg
http://pride-team.net/forum/images/subculture/24626558_Khopesh.jpg

No, it's not mine, and that isn't me. Sorry to disappoint.

Spiryt
2010-06-18, 02:29 PM
Pretty much most of things made by Vince Evans are pretty, but this Claidheamh d Limh in particular:

Link (http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?album=100&pos=25)


Spectacular bardiches, and, one of the few actual double axes I've ever seen.
Most certainly ceremonial, but still.

http://www.myarmoury.com/albums/albums/userpics/29961/normal_osmanlsilahlar.jpg

Darklord Xavez
2010-06-18, 02:31 PM
There are no words to describe this weapon.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2ujqefd.jpg

Actually, one word:
BaJeezus!
-Xavez

Ormagoden
2010-06-18, 02:35 PM
Isn't this thread about beautiful weapons?

Almost everything I have seen so far is absolutely ugly as sin.

Balls of wood with nails in it? Fantasy axes that couldn't function without killing yourself! Come on playground I expect BETTER!

With that mode of thought I introduce to you the Angel Sword TM.
Beautiful Damascus swords hand forged and custom made for you.

http://www.angelsword.com/photos/european/bk134-1100a.jpghttp://www.angelsword.com/photos/european/bk134-1100b.jpghttp://www.angelsword.com/photos/european/bk134-1100c.jpg

Susano-wo
2010-06-18, 02:51 PM
Dark Fiddler: You are not alone. I don't like all the designs, but for some, unfathomable reason, I love a lot of keyblade designs

Lostfang: practicality is not a necessity in beauty. Nice sword, though, quite beautiful.

Knaight
2010-06-18, 03:12 PM
http://www.cottees.co.uk/images/01%20December%202009/Whitefriars%20%20glass%20Sword.jpg
This is dedicated to everyone who only wants realism. :smallcool:

Greenish
2010-06-18, 03:25 PM
http://www.cottees.co.uk/images/01%20December%202009/Whitefriars%20%20glass%20Sword.jpg
This is dedicated to everyone who only wants realism. :smallcool:That sword just gave me diabetes. :smallfrown:

Reynard
2010-06-18, 03:28 PM
...why? It's made of glass, not sweets.

Knaight
2010-06-18, 03:28 PM
Glass, not sharpened, with a cord inexplicably attached to the blade. Pretty though. And besides, I can always post more sling pictures to make up for it later.

ZeroNumerous
2010-06-18, 03:32 PM
...why? It's made of glass, not sweets.

Because it's so sweet. [/pun]


Lostfang: practicality is not a necessity in beauty. Nice sword, though, quite beautiful.

Only if you have a crude or shallow ideal of beauty. Otherwise, practicality is a beauty all on it's own.

EDIT:

https://www.fantasyblacksmith.com/images/Silver%20Classical%20Butterfly%20Knife.jpg

The butterfly knife, for example. Classic, efficient, and concealable.

Spiryt
2010-06-18, 03:41 PM
Really beautiful pattern welded seax by Michael Pikula.

Link (http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=15490&highlight=seax)

Knaight
2010-06-18, 03:41 PM
Only if you have a crude or shallow ideal of beauty. Otherwise, practicality is a beauty all on it's own.

He didn't say practicality didn't have a beauty, only that unpractical things could be beautiful.

Anyways, more prettiness.

A bit modern looking:
http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2010/06/01-1827092143M.jpg
Less so:
http://www.glowfoto.com/user_imageredirect.php?iid=3373701
Modern colored pouch:
http://slinging.org/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/2334.jpeg
Another pretty, less modern one:
http://img4.glowfoto.com/images/2010/05/03-2217142470M.jpg
Last one for now:
http://slinging.org/forum/yabbfiles/Attachments/oles_bilder_383.jpg

Vizzerdrix
2010-06-18, 03:43 PM
Sigh. Maybe Wednesday I'll take new pictures of my collection and post them up for you guys, if I have time.

G3N3R3L GHOST
2010-06-18, 03:48 PM
Can't Imagine how something like this didn't make the list. But then again who can really appreciate such a strange idea...oh who am I kidding we all love it haha

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs31/i/2008/197/5/2/Gunblades_by_DigitalMetal.jpg

Zovc
2010-06-18, 03:49 PM
This my last troll post in the thread, I swear.

Am I the only person who finds it funny that Greenish had the foresight to make sure that weapons stay SFW? :smalltongue:

Knaight
2010-06-18, 03:52 PM
OK, one more.
http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2010/04/23-1353177386M.jpg
Done for now, I swear.

Morph Bark
2010-06-18, 03:52 PM
There are no words to describe this weapon.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2ujqefd.jpg

That is awesome. Take away the shaft and combine it with some chains and gauntlets and that's prettymuch how I imagined a custom-made weapon of mine to look like. Wicked.

Vaynor
2010-06-18, 03:52 PM
Can't Imagine how something like this didn't make the list. But then again who can really appreciate such a strange idea...oh who am I kidding we all love it haha

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs31/i/2008/197/5/2/Gunblades_by_DigitalMetal.jpg

How do you hold it? It would have terrible aim with just one hand being able to hold it. It does look pretty awesome though.

Here's my roman gladatorial broadsword. Nonfunctional, but I love it. :smallsmile:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/Vaynor/Photoon2010-06-18at1350.jpg

Sorry for the terrible lighting.

Spiryt
2010-06-18, 03:54 PM
What the hell is SFW?

Am I missing something?

:smalltongue:

Vaynor
2010-06-18, 03:54 PM
SFW = Safe For Work.

Mando Knight
2010-06-18, 03:56 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2.jpg/800px-A-10_Thunderbolt_II_In-flight-2.jpg
I am Heavy Weapons Airplane. And this is my weapon.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/GAU-8_avenger.jpg

Eldan
2010-06-18, 03:57 PM
Quite unpractical, but I have a fondness for both black powder weapons and katars.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/FaxCelestis/1235587878240.jpg

Is that a Gun-Katar? :smalltongue:

Escheton
2010-06-18, 03:58 PM
SFW= seriously frelling wicked

G3N3R3L GHOST
2010-06-18, 04:04 PM
How do you hold it? It would have terrible aim with just one hand being able to hold it. It does look pretty awesome though.


You would hold it one handed just like a sword. The aim probably would be horrible....but you would look bad ass firing your forced warning shots before you chopped someone in half with it.

RndmNumGen
2010-06-18, 04:04 PM
I've always had a fondness for polearms, especially halberds:

http://i46.tinypic.com/1fgw06.jpg

Mark Hall
2010-06-18, 04:13 PM
"Impractical"? "Fragile"?


"Liable to catch on things?"

DragoonWraith
2010-06-18, 04:15 PM
RNG, you might want to spoiler that image.

lsfreak
2010-06-18, 04:15 PM
I've always had a fondness for polearms, especially halberds:

Could you spoiler that? Screeeenstreeeeetch.

Spiryt
2010-06-18, 04:19 PM
Great seax found just like that on google.

http://www.powning.com/jake/images/vksax6.jpg


It seems that it's work of Jack Powning, some of his other stuff:

Not exactly historical, to best of my knowledge, but heavily inspired by classic La Tene celtic swords.

http://powning.com/jake/images/0torctriath1.jpg

Excession
2010-06-18, 04:40 PM
Some beautiful Pounamu Mere. Pounamu (aka greenstone or nephrite jade) is incredibly hard, and will take an impressive edge. Nowadays it's worked with diamond tools, traditionally it was a lot more work.


http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/greenstone-patu.jpg (http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/greenstone-patu)

http://www.kiwitreasure.com/ProdImages/CP001/Greenstone-Mere-p.jpg (http://www.kiwitreasure.com/760-unique-maori-weapon---the-mere-%28patu%29-with-hei-tiki-design.htm)

http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/objectdetails.aspx?oid=274299&page=43

Greenish
2010-06-18, 04:45 PM
Some beautiful Pounamu Mere. Pounamu (aka greenstone or nephrite jade) is incredibly hard, and will take an impressive edge. Nowadays it's worked with diamond tools, traditionally it was a lot more work.


http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/greenstone-patu.jpg (http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/greenstone-patu)

http://www.kiwitreasure.com/ProdImages/CP001/Greenstone-Mere-p.jpg (http://www.kiwitreasure.com/760-unique-maori-weapon---the-mere-%28patu%29-with-hei-tiki-design.htm)

http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/objectdetails.aspx?oid=274299&page=43
Yeah, who needs metal weapons? http://kumulau.com/images/big/kunane020.jpg

Kiren
2010-06-18, 04:48 PM
Courtesy of Ezio. the hidden blade

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/assassinscreed/images/thumb/3/3f/Ezio%27s_Hidden_Blade.jpg/800px-Ezio%27s_Hidden_Blade.jpg

JaronK
2010-06-18, 05:07 PM
I have an irrational hatred for useless but pretty weapons, and find beauty in practical and effective weapons. Therefor, my favorites tend to be Kukris, Naginatas, and Landsknecht Flamberges (though that last is more because it makes such a beautiful fire toy). Meanwhile the beauty of a Rope Dart or Meteor Hammer is only evident when you see it used properly.



https://torablades.com/shop/images/uploads/Havildar%20kukri%205.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/bajoguy7371/Naginata.jpg

http://www.lcs4u.com/houseofblades/flamberge/flamberge1.jpg

JaronK

Tam_OConnor
2010-06-18, 05:28 PM
Needs more blades.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4561/normallangenzersdorf201.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5730/xnrafeqxbp46lfriozf8q5y.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5590/vikingfalchion.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4140/viikinkipuukko.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3341/counterspell.jpg

Edit: I like single-edged weapons? Also, nice kukri.

Greenish
2010-06-18, 05:31 PM
Needs more blades.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4561/normallangenzersdorf201.jpg
Edit: I like single-edged weapons? Also, nice kukri.What's the sword in that first picture called? It looks brilliant.

And yeah, kukris are kewl, and that's a fine (looking) specimen.

herrhauptmann
2010-06-18, 05:40 PM
This my last troll post in the thread, I swear.

Am I the only person who finds it funny that Greenish had the foresight to make sure that weapons stay SFW? :smalltongue:

I think Greenish just wanted to ensure that no one posted a picture of a naked woman holding a sword.
Random number generator, spoiler that picture, or at least rotate it 90 degrees. It's messing up our screens.

Here's my picture. Someone made a weapon from rattan and I guess high density foam for use in an SCA (http://www.sca.org/) event. That my friends, was wielded in the same manner as an axe.

http://jayedeye.smugmug.com/photos/618058732_xWr9f-M.jpg

Greenish
2010-06-18, 05:43 PM
I think Greenish just wanted to ensure that no one posted a picture of a naked woman holding a sword.Naw, it just wouldn't do if someone posted a picture of a weapon with *gasps* visible nipples. Actually it's just a reference to the dungeons & dames series of threads.

Saint GoH
2010-06-18, 05:45 PM
Moar kukri's
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/Rekassus/kukri-1.jpg

and because I looove bleach, some impractical ones :D


Rukia's Shirayuki, yes that is a non-functional stringy thing attached.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a167/ChrisYu/Bleach%20Sword/Bleach%20Rukia%20Kuchiki/IMG_6681.gif

Ichigo's Tensa Zangestu

http://www.seraphswords.com/bleach/tensa-zangetsu-standard.jpg


Annnd just what I think is oddly pretty...


Its like lightsaber sword... sweeet.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r93/Knoko/katana.jpg

Snake-Aes
2010-06-18, 06:09 PM
Off with the sharp stuff!
http://www.southernswords.co.uk/images/WS-120398.JPG

Vizzerdrix
2010-06-18, 06:10 PM
Mmm! Nice Hammer :smallsmile:

herrhauptmann
2010-06-18, 06:19 PM
If anyone's interested, I can put you in touch with the smith who made these two. I think one is still for sale.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c321/AaronSchnatterly/Shan-Aan/custom%20work/kukri/kukri2-2.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c321/AaronSchnatterly/Shan-Aan/custom%20work/kukri/kukri2-3.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c321/AaronSchnatterly/Shan-Aan/custom%20work/kukri/kukripairbow2.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c321/AaronSchnatterly/Shan-Aan/custom%20work/kukri/kukripairsilk3.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c321/AaronSchnatterly/Shan-Aan/custom%20work/kukri/kukri2sheath1.jpg


Personally, I'm very torn. I like the detail work on the darker one. But I prefer the color of the lighter one. Maybe a nice christmas present, they're about 500 each.

Snake-Aes
2010-06-18, 06:21 PM
:/ Importing weapons of any kind is illegal here. Which strikes me odd since I'm perfectly allowed to buy any white weapon locally.

Tetsubo 57
2010-06-18, 07:15 PM
I have an entire gallery of them. :)

Link below.

Greenish
2010-06-18, 07:32 PM
I have an entire gallery of them. :)

Link below.Bookmark'd.

Though, double kopesh, really?

balistafreak
2010-06-18, 07:38 PM
Here's my picture. Someone made a weapon from rattan and I guess high density foam for use in an SCA (http://www.sca.org/) event. That my friends, was wielded in the same manner as an axe.

http://jayedeye.smugmug.com/photos/618058732_xWr9f-M.jpg

I see what you did there... you spoony bard. :smalltongue:

herrhauptmann
2010-06-18, 07:47 PM
I see what you did there... you spoony bard. :smalltongue:

Wasn't me, but it was awesome, huh?

Amphetryon
2010-06-18, 07:49 PM
My favorite katana (http://www.swordsofmight.com/images/products/detail/Paul_Chen_Bamboo_Katana.jpg).

Needs MOAR longbow (http://ttbows.com/images/Yew%20L%20B%20Hawk.jpg).

More modern, but I like it (http://www.trueswords.com/images/prod/c/TS-WWIITRKNF_540.jpg).

SlyGuyMcFly
2010-06-18, 07:51 PM
No mention of this classic yet? For shame.

http://www.fantasyblades.net/images/products/FF%20400%20WIDE%20BLADE%20L.jpg

More seriously, the kukri's bigger and much sexier sister, the falcata:

http://www.todoespadas.com/images/HMoreno/HM-FalcataV1.jpg
http://fernieprieto.com/images/Falcata01.jpg

RS14
2010-06-18, 07:54 PM
I am appalled and confused by the total lack of pretty guns in this thread.:smallfrown:

I'm a big fan of the Webley revolver.


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee241/RS14_photo/webley_mk6.jpg


Also, this M1 Carbine is quite pretty.


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/mbmphoto/NewRockSa.jpg


Neither belongs to me, unfortunately.

Greenish
2010-06-18, 07:55 PM
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o68/clint_039/CuchilloFairbarnSykes.jpgFairbarn-Sykes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairbairn-Sykes_Fighting_Knife) fighting knife. Classy, huh?

[Edit]: Moar guns? Well, here's Mosin-Nagant M28: http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/TheyHateMe/Guns/Sako-1.jpgIt's what the history's busiest sniper used, or so I am told.

Snake-Aes
2010-06-18, 08:02 PM
FN Five-SeveN und ein Damascus skinning knife
http://hippiekiller.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/five-seven_usg.jpg
http://www.kaswords.com/productimages/s/Skinning_Damascus_Steel_Knife.jpg

Thurbane
2010-06-18, 08:17 PM
Dragon hilted knife
http://i48.tinypic.com/2a91xxe.jpg

Apache revolver
http://i46.tinypic.com/w1xqg1.jpg

Cross bladed axe
http://i45.tinypic.com/13yhvft.jpg

EvilJoe15
2010-06-18, 08:17 PM
Ah the Five-SeveN here's it's big brother the FN P90
http://www.evike.com/download/W_P90_1024.jpg

Greenish
2010-06-18, 08:19 PM
http://i45.tinypic.com/13yhvft.jpgWhat. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FlatWhat)

Snake-Aes
2010-06-18, 08:20 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/w1xqg1.jpg This one distinctly looks like it's supposed to be used for self stabbing and a crowning final shot on your own chest.

herrhauptmann
2010-06-18, 08:24 PM
Apache revolver
http://i46.tinypic.com/w1xqg1.jpg


That was already shown. Parisian knuckleduster or somesuch.

Greenish
2010-06-18, 08:25 PM
This one distinctly looks like it's supposed to be used for self stabbing and a crowning final shot on your own chest.There's a joint between the brass knuckles/handle and the revolving thingy, and another connecting to the knife edge, so that the whole thing could be folded down so that the revolving part of the revolver would be inside you fist when you used the knuckles.

Still not a very practical apparatus.

[Edit]: It's curious that such a design was used at all, and yet there seem to be several individual guns with the shared design. Does anyone know the history of these things?

Faleldir
2010-06-18, 08:26 PM
What. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FlatWhat)

Better than a double axe.

Thurbane
2010-06-18, 08:28 PM
That was already shown. Parisian knuckleduster or somesuch.
What, that exact image? OK, have another (and BTW, it is definitely known as the Apache revolver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_revolver)):
http://i50.tinypic.com/67429l.jpg

Greenish
2010-06-18, 08:28 PM
Better than a double axe.At least you could make the double axe work (even if it would require a saw).

[Edit]:
What, that exact image? OK, have another (and BTW, it is definitely known as the Apache revolver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_revolver)):
http://i50.tinypic.com/67429l.jpgWell, an apache revolver makes an appearance on the first page.

Thurbane
2010-06-18, 08:32 PM
At least you could make the double axe work (even if it would require a saw).
Are you saying you couldn't seriously injure someone with that crossbladed axe? Sure, it's less practical than a simple axe, but it would still do the job.

[Edit]:Well, an apache revolver makes an appearance on the first page.
...so, I posted 2 more (different) images of it? I'm failing to see a problem here.

Greenish
2010-06-18, 08:34 PM
Are you saying you couldn't seriously injure someone with that crossbladed axe? Sure, it's less practical than a simple axe, but it would still do the job.Yes, anything with a handle and something heavy in the other end could be used to hurt someone, but a weapon it is not.

[Edit]:
...so, I posted 2 more (different) images of it? I'm failing to see a problem here.Oh, there's no problem, I just thought you missed it.

herrhauptmann
2010-06-18, 08:36 PM
Apache knuckleduster. A favorite of Parisian street toughs, it made up for failing as not one but three different weapons (revolver, knife, and brass knuckles) by looking totally badass.
http://www.horstheld.com/1578-c.JPG


There's the front page pic...

Thurbane
2010-06-18, 08:37 PM
Yes, anything with a handle and something heavy in the other end could be used to hurt someone, but a weapon it is not.
...a broken piece of masonry can be described as a weapon. It's all about the usage.

Anyway, sorry for the bickering, lets just get back to the pics. :smallredface:

The Striker Shotgun

http://i47.tinypic.com/addo2e.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/21aagli.jpg

Chambers
2010-06-18, 09:08 PM
Oh man. That FN 5-7....want!

There's something about a pistol that shoots the same size round as a rifle that gets to me. If I had one I'd call her Vera.

Snake-Aes
2010-06-18, 09:12 PM
Oh, and of course you NEED your emergency kit
http://www.geekologie.com/2007/10/26/zombie-kit.jpg

Drogorn
2010-06-18, 09:12 PM
Ohio class ballistic missile submarines.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/USS_Michigan_%28SSBN-727%29.jpg

The Rose Dragon
2010-06-18, 09:15 PM
If I had one I'd call her Vera.

No, no, pistols are called Clara. Rifles are called Vera. SMGs are called Diana.

OK, not all of them; only one specimen per category.

Also, the P90 is already posted, so I don't really have anything else to add.

Snake-Aes
2010-06-18, 09:18 PM
No, no, pistols are called Clara. Rifles are called Vera. SMGs are called Diana.

OK, not all of them; only one specimen per category.

Also, the P90 is already posted, so I don't really have anything else to add.

Name them after angels
Meet Gaghiel, the skinning knife!
Then Ramiel, the rifle!
And Sahaquiel the shotgun!
Finally, Rampel the Machine Gun!

Chambers
2010-06-18, 09:21 PM
My rifle's name was Lisa, and my shotguns name is The Gun With No Name.

RandomLunatic
2010-06-18, 09:25 PM
Heckler and Koch G11. Fires three bullets before you feel the recoil of the first. Downside, those bullets are only 4.7mm across, so maybe you are better off with one big one. *Shrug*
http://world.guns.ru/assault/g11_scope.jpg

The Parang Pandit, a martial memeber of a family of machete-like blades from Indonesia.
http://www.oriental-arms.co.il/photos/items/02/001602/ph-0.jpg

Randalor
2010-06-18, 09:41 PM
Her name is Dora.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/dora.jpg?t=1276915099

One round of ammo is larger than the average human.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/th_images.jpg?t=1276915191

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_gun

The Rose Dragon
2010-06-18, 09:43 PM
Her name is Dora.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/dora.jpg?t=1276915099

One round of ammo is larger than the average human.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/th_images.jpg?t=1276915191

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_gun


How the hell do you aim that thing? And how long does it take to change its aim, say, 30 clicks?

Randalor
2010-06-18, 09:46 PM
Check the link at the bottom. It's entire use was a span of 12 days against fortified locations. I imagine they only needed to hit once or twice with that thing.

Plus there were plans to have a supertank built that used the Dora as it's main turret. Estimated weight- 1500 tonnes.

Ormagoden
2010-06-18, 10:08 PM
FYI for those saying the Apache Revolver is dumb because you'll stab yourself.

The knife folds up and the gun folds down. Making it easily concealed in your palm until needed. Yes, it's horribly inaccurate but it is not meant to be used at a great distance, everything about it's design screams close range.

Snake-Aes
2010-06-18, 10:09 PM
FYI for those saying the Apache Revolver is dumb because you'll stab yourself.

The knife folds up and the gun folds down. Making it easily concealed in your palm until needed. Yes, it's horribly inaccurate but it is not meant to be used at a great distance, everything about it's design screams close range.

Tsukkomi..

Excession
2010-06-18, 10:38 PM
DSR 1 sniper rifle.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/2696/dsr1variationsye5.jpg (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn38-e.htm)


Barrett XM500. 10 round .50 cal semi-automatic. Less "beautiful" maybe, but even more scary.
Couldn't find a better image.


http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/2/1312/barrett_xm500.jpg (http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn73-e.htm)

Marriclay
2010-06-18, 11:00 PM
Her name is Dora.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/dora.jpg?t=1276915099

One round of ammo is larger than the average human.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/th_images.jpg?t=1276915191

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_gun

larger than the average human? try larger than the average ogre

Yrcrazypa
2010-06-18, 11:16 PM
I'm pretty sure I've seen a Barrett XM500 in person. That picture does not do justice just how huge those rifles are. I think it was nearly as long as I am tall. But to be fair, I'm short.

ZeroNumerous
2010-06-18, 11:31 PM
http://suburbanprepper.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/800px-hk_usp_45.jpg?w=468&h=351

I'll just leave this beautiful mix of form and function here.

Tam_OConnor
2010-06-18, 11:36 PM
For the name of the first sword: looks like a really big grossemesser, but I'm not sure. It's what I'd imagine the Wheel of Time heronmarked blades look like, instead of katana ripoffs.

On kukris: I actually really like the severe bend to the blade. Smoothing it out just doesn't look as stylish.

Scaling up the kukri doesn't have to end with the falcata. Try the falx.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=5179&stc=1

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=5148&stc=1

Other bladed implements
http://swordforum.com/articles/ams/the-schiavona-hilt.jpg

http://www.wle.com/media/W044.jpg

Enuff choppa, moar dakka.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4849/40k.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8514/800pxearlymoderngrenade.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5111/42736811435016dfe248.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8868/1232352703446.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2071/a2259278ac303fa00476bac.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9269/kriss1.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5743/remington2.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7367/scifin.jpg

And I don't have a gun, but if I did, she'd be Molly.

Serpentine
2010-06-19, 12:02 AM
Ok, seriously, I do like the feel of a scythe. Its such a stylish weapon. ^ ^My English history lecturer used to know an old guy who still used his scythe to cut his grass. It was always sharpened to an incredible degree, and was so old that the blade'd been ground down to a sliver.

I made this based on a "real" blade. I'll see if I can find it again. If I can't, I believe it was a request from Rawhide, so maybe he'll drop by with it.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/doubledaggerop.gif
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h287/serpentine16/doubledagger.gif

I wish I could find the Italian rapier I bought my ex... That and another one I was thinking about were very pretty. Got them from "swordpro", but I can't find them anymore.

Thurbane
2010-06-19, 01:05 AM
There's something about a pistol that shoots the same size round as a rifle that gets to me. If I had one I'd call her Vera.
Here's a more "oldschool" one...the Bison Bull revolver, chambered for the 45-70 rifle round:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2aiekj4.jpg

CockroachTeaParty
2010-06-19, 01:52 AM
Wow, I thought I'd fall in love with a bunch of cool melee weapons... but the guns, man, the guns.

Also, gotta love the Mosin Nagant. Classy rifle, that is.

Some of the above posted weaponry wouldn't look out of place in the hands of a friggin' space marine...

Chambers
2010-06-19, 02:20 AM
Tam OConnor

Is...is that a M249...with a silencer and a M203 attachment? And you hold it like a chainsaw?

That may be the ultimate boomstick.

Gorgondantess
2010-06-19, 03:25 AM
Ahhh, weapons. I happen to quite enjoy guns in particular:
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/aac/g36.jpg
H&K G36. Holds a special spot in my heart, being my favorite weapon in my favorite game.:smallbiggrin:

And then, of course, there's this lovely specimen: The Smith & Wesson number 29.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/44Magnum.jpg

In a better frame of reference:
http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/1/9/633671283156512698-The44Magnum.jpg

That it will. People attach scopes to these things and hunt bears with them. Successfully. Still, it's nothing compared to its big brother, the 500 magnum, in terms of power.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/500%20magnum/michsimm/SW_500_Magnum.jpg
It's got it beat in size and even muzzle velocity... if not practicality.

To put things into perspective, the 44 magnum fires at approximately, oh, 1500 feet per second muzzle velocity. The M4, a lovely gun in its own right and favorite of the U.S. military
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/aac/m4.jpg
fires with a muzzle velocity of just under 3000 feet per second... with a round half the size. What this means is, taking dimensions into consideration, the 44 magnum is twice as powerful as the M4 carbine.
The 500 magnum fires at 2000 feet per second. That's pretty much enough to take down anything short of a male african elephant.

Of course, when it comes to more antique weapons...
http://media.photobucket.com/image/m%2028%20mosin%20nagant/TheyHateMe/Guns/Sako-1.jpg
1 man used this and a few cans of beans to take down well over 500 russian soldiers in the course of a few months. Hot damn.

And then, of course, the 30-06 springfield.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/M1903-Springfield-Rifle.jpg
Favorite of the U.S. army in World War One, in World War Two upgraded to the M1 Garand,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/M1-Garand-Rifle.jpg
both lovely weapons in their own right.
What, did you think I was going to show you swords?:smalltongue:

Tetsubo 57
2010-06-19, 03:43 AM
Bookmark'd.

Though, double kopesh, really?

Hey, it was a design experiment... :)

Spiryt
2010-06-19, 03:47 AM
What's the sword in that first picture called? It looks brilliant.


Looks like a classic case of kriegsmesser reproduction.

http://www.albion-swords.com/images/swords/albion/nextGen/1500fence.jpg

Popular in Europe about ~1475 - 1550 AFAIK.

J.Gellert
2010-06-19, 03:58 AM
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3ab/abpx/artblade.jpg

Armageddon's Blade - right hand - relic
Gives +3 att, +3 def, +3 sp. power, +6 knowledge, places expert armageddon spell in your spellbook, makes all allied creatures immune to armageddon

golentan
2010-06-19, 04:21 AM
Simple, clean, and elegant lines. Rapid deployment against multiple targets. That homey touch of being similar to some of the gear I'm used to firing. And of course, superior firepower:
http://web.mit.edu/mitir/-img/2007/spring/articles/taboo-trident-lg.jpg
Ladies and Gentlemen, the trident multi warhead nuclear missile.
I know what the ladies like. Cookie for reference, even though it's not obscure.

Thespianus
2010-06-19, 04:40 AM
Naginatas
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/bajoguy7371/Naginata.jpg


Seconded AND Thirded!

Also, the Yari, a fine reach weapon indeed.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6655/yariy.jpg

Serpentine
2010-06-19, 04:42 AM
I know what the ladies like....marital aides? :smallconfused:

Thespianus
2010-06-19, 04:50 AM
...marital aides? :smallconfused:

Martial, Marital, what's the difference? ;)

Yora
2010-06-19, 04:57 AM
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7367/scifin.jpg
Is that a Seburo?
Or a real gun?

Solophoenix
2010-06-19, 04:58 AM
Sure the Five SeveN and the P90 are pretty...but Fabrique Nationale didn't just stop there...

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4373/pm200817mo7.jpg

Yora
2010-06-19, 05:11 AM
I think the FN2000 looks too much like a toy, which is said to be one reason why it sold so badly. :smallwink:
That's what I like about the G36, looks very 21st century, but still like a real weapon.

ZeroNumerous
2010-06-19, 05:56 AM
I think the FN2000 looks too much like a toy, which is said to be one reason why it sold so badly. :smallwink:

Didn't they say the same of the first M16s since they featured no wooden stock?

Tetsubo 57
2010-06-19, 05:59 AM
Didn't they say the same of the first M16s since they featured no wooden stock?

Yes, yes they did. They made comparisons to Mattel toys.

Escheton
2010-06-19, 06:20 AM
No contribution, just trolling about the Apache.
It looks to be build for mosquito-bite assassination, yes like the skilltrick.
Distract the subject somehow and stab him in the heart. By the time he actually notices you are gone. Be it 6 seconds away. The revolver seems to be to buy yourself a few seconds more by returning fire against the guards.
That is besides just mauling someone to a pulp off course.

Excession
2010-06-19, 06:47 AM
If it's mosquito-bite assassinations you're looking for:

http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/photos/umbrella.jpg
Hm, the ricin needle (http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/07/terror.poison.bulgarian/) doesn't really show up, sorry.

Also, this thread needs more rocket launchers. Lets start with the classic.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-671-7483-29%2C_Reichsgebiet%2C_Soldat_mit_Panzerabwehrwaffe .jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerschreck)
I dunno, maybe it's just not beautiful. :smallfrown:

Perhaps these count?

http://gogaminggiant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/gravitygun-halflife2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SXg1Okyp2EI/AAAAAAAADY0/fWcN2O_eLak/s400/portal-gun-3.jpg (http://i.gizmodo.com/5136158/a-real-portal-gun-well-sort-of)

http://willsworkbench.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/crowbar1.jpg

http://johnmarden.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/pipe-wrench-1.jpg

Greenish
2010-06-19, 06:49 AM
Looks like a classic case of kriegsmesser reproduction.So it's either a "big knife" or a "war knife"? Looks awesome anyhow.
http://www.armabohemia.cz/imgnew/epees/epees/tesak1v.jpg

Oh, and here is some moar dakka: http://gyokusaiclub.hp.infoseek.co.jp/img/lahti.jpgThat must be compensating for something.

Spiryt
2010-06-19, 07:06 AM
So it's either a "big knife" or a "war knife"? Looks awesome anyhow.


Yes. You had messers, langmessers, grossmessers (http://ensifer.carbonmade.com/projects/96365#10) - general blades evolved form knives pretty much, that were becoming popular from around 1300, and it seems like at the end of 15th century, two handed versions were popular.

Some quite expensive reproduction (http://www.albion-swords.com/swords/albion/nextgen/sword-kriegsmesser-knecht-mark-II.htm)

And more:

http://meisterhau.de/img/LangesMesser.jpg
http://www.zornhau.de/source/schwertexkursion/ZEF-4.jpg

EvilJoe15
2010-06-19, 09:40 AM
I give you the M107, and the M134
http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/rifle/M107/M107_1.jpg
http://www.pipersprecisionproducts.com/images/FullPak.JPG
http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/531/Handheld_M134_minigun.jpg

Greenish
2010-06-19, 09:48 AM
What would one use something like M134 for?

Snake-Aes
2010-06-19, 09:51 AM
Machine guns usually provide cover fire, meaning no one gets to get any damn close to you.

KitTheOdd
2010-06-19, 10:06 AM
To put things into perspective, the 44 magnum fires at approximately, oh, 1500 feet per second muzzle velocity. The M4, a lovely gun in its own right and favorite of the U.S. military fires with a muzzle velocity of just under 3000 feet per second... with a round half the size. What this means is, taking dimensions into consideration, the 44 magnum is twice as powerful as the M4 carbine.
The 500 magnum fires at 2000 feet per second. That's pretty much enough to take down anything short of a male african elephant.



Somewhat off topic rebuttal:

Except that what matters is energy, which is 1/2*mass*velocity^2.

So the .44 magnum typically produces between 1200-1500 foot-pounds of energy depending on the load.

The 5.56 NATO round the M-4 fires typically produces around 1700 ft-lbs.

So the .44 Magnum is almost as powerful as the 5.56, despite being twice as wide and around 5 times as heavy. In firearm ballistics, velocity is almost always the winner.

Which basically just means I want BOTH. :)

ScionoftheVoid
2010-06-19, 10:38 AM
Maybe not beautiful, and definitely not practical but...
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/lgster2/backgrounds/Anime%20BG/mana-khemia-2.jpg
It's a sword that fires shuriken and changes into a drill larger than it's wielder, what's not to love?

Other Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-revis weapons (with wielders, I can't find good any pictures of the weapons alone. Help in that particular field would be very much appreciated if offered).
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu122/TigerCatzen/Mana%20Khemia%201/VaynePose.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/watergoddess0/mana-khemia-student-alliance-scr-1.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/lgster2/backgrounds/Anime%20BG/mana-khemia-6.jpg
It's used as a weapon, I can't find a picture that includes most of Anna's katana and I made three [IMG] tags so I'm going to use three [IMG] tags, dammit!

Spiryt
2010-06-19, 11:16 AM
Maybe not beautiful, and definitely not practical but...


It's not about practicality, it's about possibility.

I mean, big stuff made from some interlocking pieces of something, bigger than wielder etc... And it's supposed to behave like sword?

If you say "fantasy" and it in fact is possible then, there won't be so much more practical things - sword, shoots stuff, and I can dig a well with it?
Yes please. :smallwink:

Thurbane
2010-06-19, 11:37 AM
Don't know if any of these have already been done, but:

Kusarigama

http://i45.tinypic.com/34q76dz.jpg


Kau Sin Ke

http://i45.tinypic.com/a3lgsg.jpg


Bagh Nakh

http://i47.tinypic.com/15hok2b.jpg

Spiryt
2010-06-19, 11:48 AM
Don't know if any of these have already been done, but:


Probably, but still neat. I mean, longsword was done about 30 times so far probably, but why I should stop posting pretty ones? :smallamused:

Anyway your are neat, I generally don't like such stuff, but it seems that it's because rather ugly reproductions are the ones I see the most.


http://www.goods.pl/images/products/pl/LOTR_Sword_of_the_Witchking.jpg

According to the site I found it on, this LotR replica is cheap stuff from stainless steel, so nothing "practical" at all, but quite pretty.

herrhauptmann
2010-06-19, 11:54 AM
http://www.goods.pl/images/products/pl/LOTR_Sword_of_the_Witchking.jpg

According to the site I found it on, this LotR replica is cheap stuff from stainless steel, so nothing "practical" at all, but quite pretty.

Never mind the steel it's made from. Those swords are wall pieces only. They're wickedly heavy too.
Anduril and Sword of the Witchking, I'd say are both at least 12 pounds. I can give a better estimate next time I visit home.
Despite what some of RPG books say, a 15 pound weapon is too heavy for repeated use under anything like combat conditions. Even scripted reenactments would be too much.

edit for clarity: I'm referring to the weights of the LotR swords making them wallhangers only. My metallurgical knowledge isn't good enough to identify good iron alloys by name.

Snake-Aes
2010-06-19, 11:56 AM
Yeah, most weighed 4kg, tops.

Corporal Flint
2010-06-19, 11:57 AM
I'm surprised no one's posted this yet:

http://images.mmosite.com/news/2008/04/07/c0317wow26s.jpg

http://www.video-game-schwag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/frostmourne.jpg

http://www.gamesiteguide.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/hot-linked-image-cacher/upload/worldofraids.com/2008/march/Frostmourne02.jpg

Spiryt
2010-06-19, 12:09 PM
Never mind the steel it's made from. Those swords are wall pieces only. They're wickedly heavy too.
Anduril and Sword of the Witchking, I'd say are both at least 12 pounds. I can give a better estimate next time I visit home.
Despite what some of RPG books say, a 15 pound weapon is too heavy for repeated use under anything like combat conditions. Even scripted reenactments would be too much.

Actually, no, stuff from this shop have quite bearable weight. Anduril's 5 pounds. Heavy, but certainly not unheard of in actual swords.

And steel and overall construction is exactly what makes them unusable wallhangers if they are such (most certainly are).

Marriclay
2010-06-19, 03:34 PM
Actually, no, stuff from this shop have quite bearable weight. Anduril's 5 pounds. Heavy, but certainly not unheard of in actual swords.

And steel and overall construction is exactly what makes them unusable wallhangers if they are such (most certainly are).

Yeah, a greatsword, which is what those two blades are. And they're big, too. Perhaps not as big as a Zweihander or a scottish Claymore, but still

A good bastard sword is only half the weight listed in the 3.5 PHB. 3 pounds of good, well made metal will get you 3 1/2 feet of weapon

herrhauptmann
2010-06-19, 03:51 PM
Yeah, most weighed 4kg, tops.

Well if you say the LotR swords weighed 8-9 pounds, and are standing there with a scale, I'll retract my statement.

Spiryt
2010-06-19, 04:19 PM
Ok, inaff about wallhangers for 200$ :smalltongue:

http://wallacelive.wallacecollection.org/eMuseumPlus?service=DynamicAsset&sp=SU5mxm4Yx%2FVbg9LVP7MZLDqo6z5lhONBxez%2FYx5EhVS CZjU0bcvvsnPxkoLiFJnF9QzRY98OZwV1b%0AfnOjhdzPJCrGy %2BOIZxfXys9Yi8S8yOL6XhW4top2U5qlPqbqrNmy&sp=Simage%2Fjpeg

http://wallacelive.wallacecollection.org/eMuseumPlus?service=DynamicAsset&sp=SU5mxm4Yx%2FVbg9LVP7MZLDqo6z5lhONBxez%2FYx5EhVS CZjU0bcvvsnPxkoLiFJnF9QzRY98OZwV1b%0AfnOjhdzPJCrGy %2BOIZxfXys9Yi8S8yOJgfN96EVOA0ZqlPqbqrNmy&sp=Simage%2Fjpeg

http://wallacelive.wallacecollection.org/eMuseumPlus?service=DynamicAsset&sp=SU5mxm4Yx%2FVbg9LVP7MZLDqo6z5lhONBxez%2FYx5EhVS CZjU0bcvvsnPxkoLiFJnF9QzRY98OZwV1b%0AfnOjhdzPJCrGy %2BOIZxfXys9Yi8S8yOKggV%2BakCCzypqlPqbqrNmy&sp=Simage%2Fjpeg

All from The Wallace Collection.

Snake-Aes
2010-06-19, 04:28 PM
Well if you say the LotR swords weighed 8-9 pounds, and are standing there with a scale, I'll retract my statement.

Oh, i'm making no claims on specific swords. I'm just commenting that swords are surprisingly lighter than we think they are at a first glance, and in fact agile weapons.

herrhauptmann
2010-06-19, 05:43 PM
Oh, i'm making no claims on specific swords. I'm just commenting that swords are surprisingly lighter than we think they are at a first glance, and in fact agile weapons.

Believe me, I know that much. D&D was replaced as my favorite hobby by the SCA. A weapon over 10 pounds gets to be too heavy to use, even for the strongest people.
I was referring to the LotR swords, and the listed weights in some games. 12 pounds and up for some axes and swords, even 1 handers.

golentan
2010-06-19, 05:50 PM
...marital aides? :smallconfused:

Superior Firepower.

It does look a little like a marital aid, I suppose.

Froogleyboy
2010-06-19, 06:18 PM
I love the Apache! I've been looking for one for years, now. I never could find one. I think people don't see how useful it is, at least for those who made it. It is made for (if I recall correctly, I may be wrong) a french gang called "The Apaches" . It is perfect for a street gang's use

ZeroNumerous
2010-06-19, 07:05 PM
Machine guns usually provide cover fire, meaning no one gets to get any damn close to you.

More importantly, they ensure an enemy presence(guys in a window, for instance) isn't making a nuisance of itself(I.E: firing back) and/or killing anyone you like.

Remember everyone: Machineguns save lives.

Grifthin
2010-06-19, 07:50 PM
http://www.cold-moon.com/40k/Props/BolterPreRefinish.JPG


A fantasy gun, But still .75 gyrojet ammo that detonates INSIDE a target, showering the area with shrapnel ? I want one. In case of heresy, set to full auto.

Greenish
2010-06-19, 07:51 PM
A fantasy gun, But still .75 gyrojet ammo that detonates INSIDE a target, showering the area with shrapnel ? I want one. In case of heresy, set to full auto.Is that one made of chocolate? :smallcool:

Snake-Aes
2010-06-19, 07:51 PM
MORE DAKKA! Gotta love them bolters. Orks were right.

Tetsubo 57
2010-06-19, 07:58 PM
Believe me, I know that much. D&D was replaced as my favorite hobby by the SCA. A weapon over 10 pounds gets to be too heavy to use, even for the strongest people.
I was referring to the LotR swords, and the listed weights in some games. 12 pounds and up for some axes and swords, even 1 handers.

I recently posted a video about this topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNUbjenhs8Y

ZeroNumerous
2010-06-19, 07:59 PM
MORE DAKKA! Gotta love them bolters. Orks were right.

Orks don't use bolters! [/nerdrage]

Snake-Aes
2010-06-19, 08:06 PM
Orks don't use bolters! [/nerdrage]

Yeah, instead they use 2398478 machine guns attached to their armored motorcycles, launched from battleships that hurls bombs with their respective goblin knights.

Oh, and once I saw an ork fend off a grapple (made by dozens of enemies on him) by exploding a grenade with his teeth. And then he made a club with spit, gum and crushed bodies of his enemies. And he was on fire the entire time.

Greenish
2010-06-19, 08:10 PM
And he was on fire the entire time.Are orks afraid of ninjas? :smallconfused:

Bayonets! One for realz:
http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/gallery_images/0708/0000/0448/lee_enfield_bayonet_96156_mid.jpg
And one for orks:
http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/937.jpg

Froogleyboy
2010-06-19, 08:21 PM
Are orks afraid of ninjas? :smallconfused:

Bayonets! One for realz:
http://gallery.nen.gov.uk/gallery_images/0708/0000/0448/lee_enfield_bayonet_96156_mid.jpg
And one for orks:
http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/937.jpg

Oh my gods! I can only say one thing, and that is: CHAINSAW BAYONETS FTW!

Myou
2010-06-19, 08:27 PM
Oh my gods! I can only say one thing, and that is: CHAINSAW BAYONETS FTW!

Do infantry even carry bayonets any more? :smallconfused:

ZeroNumerous
2010-06-19, 08:39 PM
Oh, and once I saw an ork fend off a grapple (made by dozens of enemies on him) by exploding a grenade with his teeth. And then he made a club with spit, gum and crushed bodies of his enemies. And he was on fire the entire time.

'E 'eded ta uuz da bodies? Wot kinna ork iz 'e?

But seriously, Orks actually use shootas. Which function in no way like bolters, yet penetrate space marine armor just fine.

Thurbane
2010-06-19, 09:00 PM
My favorite fictional firearm, the beautiful yet functional M41A Pulse Rifle:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2zpoy6s.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/4ilumo.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/2dj5ick.jpg

urbanpirate
2010-06-19, 11:39 PM
Oh my gods! I can only say one thing, and that is: CHAINSAW BAYONETS FTW!

there is a youtube video of a guy with a chainsaw attached to his ar15. it is hillarious

urbanpirate
2010-06-19, 11:44 PM
http://www.imfdb.org/ for all your movie gun needs

urbanpirate
2010-06-19, 11:52 PM
http://10mmman.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/6a00d83451b54869e2010536ab4a64970b-400wi.jpg

or the elephant pistol

Thurbane
2010-06-20, 12:16 AM
http://10mmman.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/6a00d83451b54869e2010536ab4a64970b-400wi.jpg

or the elephant pistol
Wow! Any details on what that puppy fires?

Mystic Muse
2010-06-20, 12:20 AM
Wow! Any details on what that puppy fires?

Elephants.

Lysander
2010-06-20, 12:34 AM
I'm enjoying this thread, but it also made me think of this. (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=396)

RandomLunatic
2010-06-20, 12:39 AM
Wow! Any details on what that puppy fires?

The .600 Nitro Express. It looks like this:

http://kr.img.blog.yahoo.com/ybi/1/dc/67/funnyblog/folder/1610412/img_1610412_1280584_0?1188881046.jpg

Another revolver I like is the LeMat grapeshot revolver.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d37/madcratebuilder/lemat02.jpg

Thurbane
2010-06-20, 12:55 AM
600 Nitro? Damn, that's definitely not a pistol you fire one handed from the hip!

I love the old "volley guns":

http://i48.tinypic.com/wjf4ud.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/29nyx3k.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/358tnpw.jpg

Mystic Muse
2010-06-20, 12:57 AM
600 Nitro? Damn, that's definitely not a pistol you fire one handed from the hip!

I love the old "volley guns":

http://i48.tinypic.com/wjf4ud.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/29nyx3k.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/358tnpw.jpg

I want one.

Mushroom Ninja
2010-06-20, 02:37 AM
Her name is Dora.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/dora.jpg?t=1276915099

One round of ammo is larger than the average human.

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz103/Randalor/th_images.jpg?t=1276915191

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_gun


I think I'm in love with that gun.

Yora
2010-06-20, 04:22 AM
My favorite fictional firearm, the beautiful yet functional M41A Pulse Rifle:

http://i48.tinypic.com/4ilumo.jpg
And today, it doesn't look much different than actual guns:
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/3/32/Krisssuperv.jpg/400px-Krisssuperv.jpg

Grifthin
2010-06-20, 05:44 AM
'E 'eded ta uuz da bodies? Wot kinna ork iz 'e?

But seriously, Orks actually use shootas. Which function in no way like bolters, yet penetrate space marine armor just fine.

Offtopic - In older additions orks carried bolters. But then again eldar used lasguns back then too. so meh.

urbanpirate
2010-06-20, 05:52 AM
And today, it doesn't look much different than actual guns:
http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/3/32/Krisssuperv.jpg/400px-Krisssuperv.jpg

the rifle from alien was built mostly from real guns. I cannot remember what the main portion was but if i remember right the grenade launcher is a remington 870

Baron Malkar
2010-06-20, 05:59 AM
Calico M950/Liberty III 9mm "pistol" with 50 rounds magazine
http://calicolightweaponsystems.com/home/uploads/images/LIBERTY%203.jpg
Not Shown: Optinal 100 round clip.

Yora
2010-06-20, 06:26 AM
This one you cut have put into the hands of a guy in Star Wars, and wouldn't even have to make any modifications to it.

With a 100 round drum, it would look a lot like the Patriot from MGS3.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/fender_ketchup/Patriot.jpg

Thurbane
2010-06-20, 06:33 AM
the rifle from alien was built mostly from real guns. I cannot remember what the main portion was but if i remember right the grenade launcher is a remington 870
Thompson Submachine-gun.

http://i48.tinypic.com/1zxa8x.jpg

EvilJoe15
2010-06-20, 10:12 AM
Fa-Mas
http://usuarios.multimania.es/blackcatgr/modules/dpHtml/famas.jpg
AA-12
http://c0378172.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/aa-12-combat-shotgun-frag-12-automatic.jpg
This is what is shoots
http://frankbaumer.com/Heartland%20Pictures/More_Pics/aa12_FRAG-12_Grenade.jpg
http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/12/22/633655043311949041-AA12.jpg

And Some Knives
http://www.1sks.com/images/mod/mod-cqd5.jpg
http://www.chinawholesalegift.com/pic/Handicraft-Artworks/Metal-Ornament/Knives-with-Wooden-Plaque-and-Stainless-Steel-Blade-17423398223.jpg

Mathis
2010-06-20, 05:34 PM
I never found guns of any form beautiful. I find them crude and far from pleasing to the eye. A well crafted one-handed sword however, oh ho ho. There is one gun that I can stand though, The Samaritan from Hellboy.

Also, here is a picture of my favourite looking sword.
http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab182/martinand1990/images_AH3288_l.jpg
http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab182/martinand1990/samaritan1.jpg

Count D20
2010-06-20, 10:05 PM
...marital aides? :smallconfused:

Living in the fallout setting?

ShneekeyTheLost
2010-06-20, 10:21 PM
One of my favorite weapons of all time, the Horse Chopper (http://www.enlightenmentswords.com/product/dao_zhong_yi.html), a.k.a. the Zhan Ma Dao. It has a colorful history among the Tong, as the weapon of choice among the various criminal organizations, since it was one of the few weapons which were quite capable of standing up to anything the nobility could muster.

Faster than a Naginata, stronger and more force output than a Katana (FYI: a normal Dao will go through bamboo mats one-handed without much effort at all, due to being a heavier chopping blade). It's definitely a weapon to be used.

Brendan
2010-06-20, 10:23 PM
Now, I'm gonna hazard a guess that most weapons are not safe for work. Or safe anywhere. At most office jobs, you get fired when you fire. Or stab.

erikun
2010-06-20, 11:51 PM
Do infantry even carry bayonets any more? :smallconfused:
Yes, in the form of detachable combat knifes, if I understand correctly. They would obviously take them off for normal walking around, and attach them only when preparing to go into a dangerous situation that might require close combat. Stabbing someone with a knife attached to your gun is far preferred to dropping the gun to pull out a weapon, after all.

As for a weapon in the beauty-in-elegance, I'll bring out the Eiku. It is, quite literally, an oar - a wooden staff with a flattened paddle on one end. The design allows it to be handled like a staff, wielding the paddle end like a polearm, or even using the flat of the weapon to toss sand in an opponent's eyes (as the myth goes). It isn't well known, given that its use is limited mostly to one martial art out of Okinawa, a single region of Japan.


http://www.bukenkan.org.nz/bukenkan/sites/default/files/images/kobudo/Eiku.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Eku_kaibo_kai_bo_eiku_oar_staff_eiku_nightmareinsh iningarmour.jpg
http://www.dallen.ca/Quickstart/ImageLib/Bloodwood_Eiku.jpg

And a kata performed with the Eiku:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7dfTIOYJ80

Leon
2010-06-21, 02:34 AM
As for a weapon in the beauty-in-elegance, I'll bring out the Eiku. It is, quite literally, an oar - a wooden staff with a flattened paddle on one end.

With that at least you wont be up the creek without a paddle.



Milkor MGL

http://www.defensereview.com/stories/milkor/IMGP0432.JPG


Beowulf .50

http://www.alexanderarms.com/pics/sspics/hr/54.jpg

Thurbane
2010-06-21, 02:38 AM
NTW 20mm anti-material rifle, as seen in District 9:

http://i46.tinypic.com/28ccyrp.jpg

horngeek
2010-06-21, 02:45 AM
http://img2.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/432c7b233eef31539243fe6143f188ef1226850762_full.jp g
Excalibur from Fate/Stay Night

http://img3.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/c6df908e37f03254b678c89c51f7bc221226859241_full.jp g
Ea, from the same

Realistic (or real)? No. Awesome? HELL YES. :smallcool:

Tiki Snakes
2010-06-21, 08:53 AM
Yes, in the form of detachable combat knifes, if I understand correctly. They would obviously take them off for normal walking around, and attach them only when preparing to go into a dangerous situation that might require close combat. Stabbing someone with a knife attached to your gun is far preferred to dropping the gun to pull out a weapon, after all.

As for a weapon in the beauty-in-elegance, I'll bring out the Eiku. It is, quite literally, an oar - a wooden staff with a flattened paddle on one end. The design allows it to be handled like a staff, wielding the paddle end like a polearm, or even using the flat of the weapon to toss sand in an opponent's eyes (as the myth goes). It isn't well known, given that its use is limited mostly to one martial art out of Okinawa, a single region of Japan.


http://www.bukenkan.org.nz/bukenkan/sites/default/files/images/kobudo/Eiku.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Eku_kaibo_kai_bo_eiku_oar_staff_eiku_nightmareinsh iningarmour.jpg
http://www.dallen.ca/Quickstart/ImageLib/Bloodwood_Eiku.jpg

And a kata performed with the Eiku:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7dfTIOYJ80


Anyone for Cricket, what? :smallwink:

balistafreak
2010-06-21, 08:57 AM
Anyone for Cricket, what? :smallwink:

Hey, a cricket bat was a sufficent weapon for That Lanky Bugger. :smallwink:

Yora
2010-06-21, 09:59 AM
And lets not forget that the Okinawans brought us Karate. Don't underestimate that tiny island.

big teej
2010-06-21, 11:20 AM
I can see that i'm going to have to take a picture of my claw and put it up here

KitTheOdd
2010-06-21, 09:44 PM
Anyone for Cricket, what? :smallwink:

R:Cricket? You can't play cricket. Nobody understands cricket, you gotta know what a crumpet is to understand cricket!

CJ: Oh yeah, well let me teach you.
*thwack* *R lands in garbage can*
CJ: See, six runs.

Cookie for the reference.

mabriss lethe
2010-06-21, 09:48 PM
R:Cricket? You can't play cricket. Nobody understands cricket, you gotta know what a crumpet is to understand cricket!

CJ: Oh yeah, well let me teach you.
*thwack* *R lands in garbage can*
CJ: See, six runs.

Cookie for the reference.

I haven't seen the first TMNT movie since I was a kid

big teej
2010-06-21, 10:10 PM
damn! ye beat me too it!!!

I've been watching it over and over again the past few days =D

KitTheOdd
2010-06-21, 11:50 PM
Cookies!!

That scene became even funnier after spending time in New Zealand and actually leaning bit about cricket.

Thurbane
2010-06-22, 02:59 AM
Dunno what this is, but I would say it could do bludgeoning, piercing and slashing damage:

http://i48.tinypic.com/1z34200.jpg

panaikhan
2010-06-22, 07:24 AM
lovely set of images so far....
I can't believe no-one has posted the sword/knife set from F.A.K.K.2
I actually own this set, so if I can find somewhere to lay it out, I'll photograph it myself...
On the gun front, I think there's a lovely image from Dead Rising of a lady holding the Baretta sniping rifle (to give a sense of scale for those already posted).

Escheton
2010-06-22, 08:34 AM
http://www.gadgetgrid.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/dead-on-annihilator-tool-axe-hammer-wrench-chisel.jpg

http://www.sos-shop.co.il/data/assets/KLI%20HISRDUT.jpg

because a mace just isn't versatile enough

also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

EvilJoe15
2010-06-22, 09:51 AM
As per your request
http://www.digitalgames.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/lg.jpg

Greenish
2010-06-22, 11:26 AM
also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6oAlmost nine minutes of people using a shovel while "inspirational" and "uplifting" music plays on the background. :smallconfused:

Holocron Coder
2010-06-22, 11:37 AM
There are no words to describe this weapon.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2ujqefd.jpg

Yes there is:


Mine :smallbiggrin: I own one





Its like lightsaber sword... sweeet.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r93/Knoko/katana.jpg

That's actually what we call mine... Ha.

I'll stop posting which ones I have and contribute a bit later, when I can find pictures of what I have :smalltongue:

Shademan
2010-06-22, 12:18 PM
thats no knife... THIS is a knife! a BIG knife! http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w97/Stitch_032/Grosse_Messer_M.jpg

anf offcourse http://www.weaponsemporium.com/WE-Morning%20Star%20Mace%20XH2141N.jpg
the morningstar. Your armour is FUTILE! MUAHAHA

Escheton
2010-06-22, 03:42 PM
Almost nine minutes of people using a shovel while "inspirational" and "uplifting" music plays on the background. :smallconfused:

ok, so it's a bit of a rickroll. But the shovel rules.

Knaight
2010-06-22, 05:18 PM
That shovel is the coolest thing I've seen for months.

Kaiyanwang
2010-06-22, 05:27 PM
also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

Just in need of something similar for my next campaign. A 2d8 18-20/x4 showel.

Greenish
2010-06-22, 05:43 PM
ok, so it's a bit of a rickroll. But the shovel rules.Hmm, yeah. The ones NATO uses don't have sawblade, bolt cutters nor can/bottle openers: http://www.nsmb.com/assets/images/News/events08/shovel.jpg

NeoVid
2010-06-22, 06:15 PM
because a mace just isn't versatile enough

also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

I want one.

Carry one of those and a Swiss army knife, and your enemies are screwed.

Blackfang108
2010-06-22, 10:39 PM
I dunno, maybe it's just not beautiful. :smallfrown:

YES. Yes, it is. If I had a smiley shedding a tear, I'd be giving it.

Anything designed to give an explosive payload to its tareget is beautiful by default.

The N-Trident is my favorite, however.

"And the Lord God said, 'let it not exist.'
And it did not exist.":smallbiggrin:

Blackfang108
2010-06-22, 10:42 PM
I haven't seen the first TMNT movie since I was a kid

Are you SURE that's it?

I REALLY don't rememeber that from the movie. Any of the three.

Marriclay
2010-06-22, 11:35 PM
Are you SURE that's it?

I REALLY don't rememeber that from the movie. Any of the three.

It was there, in the first movie. Casey Jones meets Raphael. They start arguing, do a bit of fighting, and Casey keeps pulling out new weapons, all of them sports implements. That happens when he pulls out a cricket bat

KitTheOdd
2010-06-23, 07:37 AM
Yup.

Raphael has just disarmed Casey of a baseball bat and Casey replies, "OK, new game." as he pulls out the cricket bat.

I may have gotten a few of the words wrong, but the scene is there. My brothers and I watched it enough growing up that I am sure of that. :)

panaikhan
2010-06-24, 07:18 AM
OK, I have my image, kindly hosted. How do I post it here in a spoiler?

ShadowFighter15
2010-06-24, 07:20 AM
OK, I have my image, kindly hosted. How do I post it here in a spoiler?

Replace the curly brackets with square ones:

{SPOILER}{IMG}Link to image{/IMG}{/SPOILER}

panaikhan
2010-06-24, 07:30 AM
TY :smallbiggrin:

http://a4.vox.com/6a00e398bbe90d00020137a4c16474860c-pi

Edit: Yay it works (for me, anyway). And Viola, an item from my personal collection.

Simba
2010-06-24, 07:52 AM
Something from my home:

http://a.imagehost.org/t/0366/STEYR_AUG_A3.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0366/STEYR_AUG_A3)

The STEYR AUG A3

Xuc Xac
2010-06-24, 10:44 AM
And Viola, an item from my personal collection.

That's not a viola...

cenghiz
2010-06-24, 01:22 PM
http://thedarkblade.com/wp-content/uploads/Macahuitl1.jpg

.. The one at the bottom called a macahuitl.. It is produced by affixing prismatic blades - blades with nearly monomolecular edges of obsidian - to a wooden shaft and they were used by aztecs. It is said that you can really cut down a horse into two with them. And druids can use them even with DMs that care a bit too much about the fluff and ban metal weapons for druids. (I used to ban metal weapons for druids all the time)

In history, swords were mostly impractical for european cultures where armor-use was common. Not turkish folks, they were nearly always light cavalry and not mongols indeed. Far-east is something I don't know a lot about but if I believe in what I see on TV - DO NOT believe in anything you watch on TV - there seems to have been a long history of katanas and unarmored fighting.

In european cultures, compared to other weapon types, swords were wimpy weapons that break/get stuck so often against any kind of armor and even bones. So they were either thick sheets of metal that tear apart instead of cutting through for added weight and durability or they were ceramonial stuff depicting status. Metal was more expensive than wood and making 5 spears instead of one sword with the same amount of metal was more logical. They didn't have reach, the simple manuevvers that could be taught in basic mass-battle training - haven't you ever heard of 'Thrust! Recover!' - were less effective with a sword than say.. again.. a spear. Especially anything longer than a legion's broadsword would be distruptive in formations.

So, being the ultra realism-needing barely-educated S.O.B. DM, I hate swords and sword-users :) but macahuitls are an exception. I loved them in first sight. Especially after hearing that aztecs produced them using only pressure.

Greenish
2010-06-24, 01:27 PM
In european cultures, compared to other weapon types, swords were wimpy weapons that break/get stuck so often against any kind of armor and even bones. So they were either thick sheets of metal that tear apart instead of cutting through for added weight and durability or they were ceramonial stuff depicting status.Poppycock. :smallamused:

UnChosenOne
2010-06-24, 01:38 PM
Am I realy the only one here who thinks that some of Ak-variant are just so damn good looking?http://snowflakesinhell.com/blogpics/ak-74/hires/ak-74-bayonet.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Galil.jpg

Spiryt
2010-06-24, 01:39 PM
.. The one at the bottom called a macahuitl.. It is produced by affixing prismatic blades - blades with nearly monomolecular edges of obsidian - to a wooden shaft and they were used by aztecs. It is said that you can really cut down a horse into two with them. And druids can use them even with DMs that care a bit too much about the fluff and ban metal weapons for druids. (I used to ban metal weapons for druids all the time)

In history, swords were mostly impractical for european cultures where armor-use was common. Not turkish folks, they were nearly always light cavalry and not mongols indeed. Far-east is something I don't know a lot about but if I believe in what I see on TV - DO NOT believe in anything you watch on TV - there seems to have been a long history of katanas and unarmored fighting.

In european cultures, compared to other weapon types, swords were wimpy weapons that break/get stuck so often against any kind of armor and even bones. So they were either thick sheets of metal that tear apart instead of cutting through for added weight and durability or they were ceramonial stuff depicting status. Metal was more expensive than wood and making 5 spears instead of one sword with the same amount of metal was more logical. They didn't have reach, the simple manuevvers that could be taught in basic mass-battle training - haven't you ever heard of 'Thrust! Recover!' - were less effective with a sword than say.. again.. a spear. Especially anything longer than a legion's broadsword would be distruptive in formations.

So, being the ultra realism-needing barely-educated S.O.B. DM, I hate swords and sword-users :) but macahuitls are an exception. I loved them in first sight. Especially after hearing that aztecs produced them using only pressure.


I'm sorry but that's a bunch of generalizations and bad stereotypes.

Japanese weren't really fighting unarmored if they could help it, european swrods weren't any "thick sheets of metal" compared to others, armor use was common everywhere, Mongols were also wearing metal armors if they could afford it. Swords weren't breaking against bones if they were half decently made. And finally all depends on the period, sword was something different in France 900 A.D than in 1400.

And macahuitls weren't really swords, but something like club with sharp obsidians chunks obviously... Which makes them kinda unique stuff, but that's a detail.

EDIT: Somehow, related - this article (http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_higgins_vik.html) for some imagination... Obviously it isn't very beautiful now, at least to most, but it certainly was when it was new and ready to battle. :smallsmile:

Ozymandias9
2010-06-24, 01:53 PM
Beautiful, you say?

http://hosting11.imagecross.com/image-hosting-39/3064062400_1339-00-.jpg

It's a Creek ceremonial dagger, made of blue glass attached to a deer antler hilt. It was given to my mother by the Turtle Clan Mother some years back when she was a guest at a ceremony (though for the life of me, I can't remember which one-- they've been friends for many years).

Despite appearances, it's relatively sharp. I've cut myself on it. It's not the most functional: you could probably kill someone with it, but you'd be unlikely to see a second use.

Spiryt
2010-06-24, 01:56 PM
Beautiful, you say?

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It's a Creek ceremonial dagger, made of blue glass attached to a deer antler hilt. It was given to my mother by the Turtle Clan Mother some years back when she was a guest at a ceremony (though for the life of me, I can't remember which one-- they've been friends for many years).

Despite appearances, it's relatively sharp. I've cut myself on it. It's not the most functional: you could probably kill someone with it, but you'd be unlikely to see a second use.

Looks great!

I'm not good about such stuff - how it's attached to the handle? That would be the most important about "functionality" IMO.

Ozymandias9
2010-06-24, 02:07 PM
Looks great!

I'm not good about such stuff - how it's attached to the handle? That would be the most important about "functionality" IMO.

There's a slot cut into the antler and a longer extension of the glass blade that's inserted therein. A small hole is made at the bottom of the slot in the antler on the underside, then a expanding adhesive goo made of the marrow from the rest of the antler (and some other stuff, I presume-- I never asked for more detail) is poured in to cement the knife together.

So it's reasonably well attached. The larger issue for functionality is that it's a stabbing knife made of glass-- I'm told that they tend to have pieces of the edge and point break off when they hit bone.

Spiryt
2010-06-24, 02:11 PM
There's a slot cut into the antler and a longer extension of the glass blade that's inserted therein. A small hole is made at the bottom of the slot in the antler on the underside, then a expanding adhesive goo made of the marrow from the rest of the antler (and some other stuff, I presume-- I never asked for more detail) is poured in to cement the knife together.

So a tang like in fact! Nice. :smallbiggrin:

Wardog
2010-06-24, 04:34 PM
Enuff choppa, moar dakka.
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4849/40k.jpg

That's just ugly.



http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8514/800pxearlymoderngrenade.jpg

Those, on the other hand, look pretty neat. And familiar. Are they from a museum in Geneva? (Although I suppose that wouldn't be the only place with such weapons on display).



http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7367/scifin.jpg

What's that? It looks like an M41a pulse rifle that never grew up.




Oh, and here is some moar dakka: http://gyokusaiclub.hp.infoseek.co.jp/img/lahti.jpgThat must be compensating for something.

Yeah - his mushed-up face ;)

Myou
2010-06-24, 05:07 PM
http://www.kultofathena.com/images/SH2067.jpg
The butterfly sword, a favourite of mine.[/QUOTE]

urbanpirate
2010-06-24, 08:05 PM
Am I realy the only one here who thinks that some of Ak-variant are just so damn good looking?http://snowflakesinhell.com/blogpics/ak-74/hires/ak-74-bayonet.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Galil.jpg

not a fan of the galil but th draco and dragonov are both beautiful weapons, so is theclassic ak with russian red wood

urbanpirate
2010-06-24, 08:14 PM
http://www.gunco.net/gallery/data/500/medium/00212.JPG

Worira
2010-06-25, 12:47 AM
A few navajas de carraca, a spanish folding knife named after the sound they make (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carraca.ogg) when opened:http://www.couteaux-jfl.com/images_MG/navaja%20XVIII.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Navaja2.jpg

http://www.spaincenter.org/b2b/cuchillos/fotos/navaja-espejillos-1.jpg

And an ornate Colt SAA:http://www.gunshopfinder.com/America_Remembers/Colt_SAA.jpg

Thurbane
2010-06-25, 03:47 AM
I like some of the older Soviet firearms (PPSh-41, SKS, RPD & DPM):

http://i47.tinypic.com/24cgqxy.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2ymxe1u.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/3505jsy.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/m7fl1i.jpg

panaikhan
2010-06-25, 08:00 AM
That's not a viola...

Heh. I was tired. I was also happy enough that my first pic-post actually worked, I didn't proof-read it...