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Ilmryn
2010-06-21, 01:51 PM
Are there any of the low-level form-changing spells(such as Primal Form or Least Dragonshape) that don't have a target of personal? I need something at or below spell level 3(I can chain those :smallamused:).

EvilJoe15
2010-06-21, 02:00 PM
Alter Self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/alterSelf.htm)

Ilmryn
2010-06-21, 02:03 PM
Alter Self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/alterSelf.htm)

Alter self dosen't really give you anything but looks though... I am looking for a real form-change.

Eldariel
2010-06-21, 02:05 PM
It gives you Natural Armor, movement modes and so on; it's the best you'll get under level 3. Well, Bite of the Wererat is a level 2 for Druid, but you know what that one does...

Rothen
2010-06-21, 02:05 PM
Read it again. It grants the traits of what you alter yourself to. It's the closest you're going to get to polymorph at that level, and it's already ridiculously broken.

sofawall
2010-06-21, 02:05 PM
"Physical qualities include natural size, mundane movement capabilities (such as burrowing, climbing, walking, swimming, and flight with wings, to a maximum speed of 120 feet for flying or 60 feet for nonflying movement), natural armor bonus, natural weapons (such as claws, bite, and so on), racial skill bonuses, racial bonus feats, and any gross physical qualities (presence or absence of wings, number of extremities, and so forth)."

A bit more than just looks.

EvilJoe15
2010-06-21, 02:06 PM
No, that Disguise Self (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/disguiseSelf.htm). Alter Self is just as broken as Polymorph, you just have to be creative.

Edit: Wow... Triple Ninja'd.

Ilmryn
2010-06-21, 02:12 PM
However, its called Alter Self. I specifically said I was looking for something i could use on others. There are a few spells that let you assume a specific form, Primal Form(medium elemental, otherwise works as polymorph, but only on yourself) from the Spell Compendium for example. I want something like that, but usable on others so i can chain it. My character is only level 12, so i can't chain polymorph until 2 more levels...:roach:

Rothen
2010-06-21, 02:14 PM
Edit: Wow... Triple Ninja'd.

For your convenience (http://www.typinglessons-online.com/EN/). :smalltongue:

sofawall
2010-06-21, 02:23 PM
For your convenience (http://www.typinglessons-online.com/EN/). :smalltongue:

You know, I don't actually type, I peck.

The Cat Goddess
2010-06-21, 03:14 PM
However, its called Alter Self. I specifically said I was looking for something i could use on others. There are a few spells that let you assume a specific form, Primal Form(medium elemental, otherwise works as polymorph, but only on yourself) from the Spell Compendium for example. I want something like that, but usable on others so i can chain it. My character is only level 12, so i can't chain polymorph until 2 more levels...:roach:

Easy Metamagic?

Incantatrix cheese?