Abjurer build

[Khellendross]

Hello,

I might be playing in a pbp game and made a gestalt duskblade/wizard. Don't really intend to use melee much at all but as a back-up. Concept is a White robed wizard like from Dragonlance who specializes in Abjuration and as combat spells storm based, mainly air and electricity ie control weather and lightning bolt. His build isn't the most optimized by any means and I don't want him to be but I do want him to be skilled in both these areas. What items/feats should I strive for that enhance storm magic and abjuration? I want to be a staff wielder as my main weapon if there is a legacy item(homebrew or not) that fits(not sure if the are allowed but doesn't hurt to think ahead).

Prestige class would be master specialist for sure and something that either further enhances abjuration or storm magic.

Thank you for all your input.

[mobdrazhar]

why not take abjurant champion?

[Private-Prinny]

The stereotypical Abjurer build is Wizard 3/Master Specialist 10/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7. It actually works quite well, but you'll probably have to take straight Duskblade on the other side.

[Khellendross]

The stereotypical Abjurer build is Wizard 3/Master Specialist 10/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7. It actually works quite well, but you'll probably have to take straight Duskblade on the other side.

Not taking Iot7V. It's to powerful and not within my concept and I think it's banned anyways.

[PId6]

Abjurer 4/Master Specialist 2/Ruathar 3/Abjurant Champion 5/Master Specialist +6

You can squeeze in all 10 levels of Master Specialist if you're willing to get a little cheesy (Abjurer 2/Master Specialist 4 instead with early entry).

[Khellendross]

Abjurer 4/Master Specialist 2/Ruathar 3/Abjurant Champion 5/Master Specialist +6

You can squeeze in all 10 levels of Master Specialist if you're willing to get a little cheesy (Abjurer 2/Master Specialist 4 instead with early entry).


What is a Ruathar? and I just found this nifty homebrew spell...just thought I'd mention it because it's abjuations lol

Antimaneuver Field Abjuration
Level: Cleric 8, Sorcerer/Wizard 6
Components: V, S, M/DF
Casting time: 1 standard action
Range: 10 ft.
Area: 10-ft.-radius emanation, centered on you
Duration: 10 min./level (D)
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: See text


An invisible barrier surrounds you and moves with you. The space within this barrier is impervious to Maneuvers and Stances.

An antimaneuver field suppresses any Maneuver or Stance used within, brought into, or initiated into the area, but does not dispel it. Time spent within an antimaneuver field counts against the suppressed maneuver or stance’s duration. Maneuvers or stances that can dispel magic do not remove the field.

Should a creature be larger than the area enclosed by the barrier, any part of it that lies outside the barrier is unaffected by the field.

Arcane Material Component: A pinch of powdered glass or glass filings.



Edit: I found it and read it but why 3 of that class? To get the long age?

[Gnaritas]

Is your avatar the guy you are building?

How about a Cloistered Cleric/Wizard (Abjurer)

The Cleric has tons of Abjurant Spells, as well as a possible Electricity/Air flavor with domains (Air, Storm, Weather) and spells (Anarchic/Axiomatic/Holy Storm, Coldsnap, Downdraft).

If you are allowed to DMM, a persistent Ice Axe might be in your flavor, not sure, but it's a nice way to melee for this character.

Maybe you could homebrew a runestaff with the following spells so you can cast those as well:
Blizzard
Call Lightning
Call Lightning Storm
Lightning Blade
Wind's Favor

[Khellendross]

I was going to do that but didn't want to worry about a duel casting stat.

[Gnaritas]

I was going to do that but didn't want to worry about a duel casting stat.

Archivist could be an alternative (Heroes of Horror iirc). You can get the druid spells within your flavor as well.

The other options is don't worry about the double casting stat.

[Optimystik]

What is a Ruathar?

Ruathar (or "elf-friend") is a 3/3 casting PrC from Races of the Wild. It is perhaps the easiest casting PrC to qualify for in the game. It is primarily used to gain nonstandard skills (like all Knowledge skills, Handle Animal, and Survival) as class skills without halting caster progression or requiring feats.

[Dusk Eclipse]

Ruathar (or "elf-friend") is a 3/3 casting PrC from Races of the Wild. It is perhaps the easiest casting PrC to qualify for in the game. It is primarily used to gain nonstandard skills (like all Knowledge skills, Handle Animal, and Survival) as class skills without halting caster progression or requiring feats.

you forget that it gets 3/4 bab, so it is useful to quicken your way into prestige class that needs higher bab... abjurant champion being the first that comes to mind.

[Optimystik]

you forget that it gets 3/4 bab, so it is useful to quicken your way into prestige class that needs higher bab... abjurant champion being the first that comes to mind.

*slaps forehead*

[Tyndmyr]

The stereotypical Abjurer build is Wizard 3/Master Specialist 10/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil 7. It actually works quite well, but you'll probably have to take straight Duskblade on the other side.

You know what's more awesome than that? Going from master specialist into incantatrix. You stop once IoT7V is available sure, but you go back to incantatrix afterward.

It's juicy and awesome.

[Gnaritas]

you forget that it gets 3/4 bab, so it is useful to quicken your way into prestige class that needs higher bab... abjurant champion being the first that comes to mind.

Quicken?!?....a Wizard 5 is the fastest you can gain access to Ruathar and with 3 levels of Ruathar you still only have 4 BaB. So if you want this class to get access to Abjurant Champion, the first AC level you can get is at level 10....

[Optimystik]

Quicken?!?....a Wizard 5 is the fastest you can gain access to Ruathar and with 3 levels of Ruathar you still only have 4 BaB. So if you want this class to get access to Abjurant Champion, the first AC level you can get is at level 10....

I think he's assuming Fractional (which everyone should be :smalltongue:)

[Pechvarry]

I haven't seen War Weaver (Heroes of Battle) mentioned at all. Seems particularly well suited to Gestalt. Not only are you a super abjurer buffing your friends, as a duskblade, you'll get the most of them yourself. Something simple like Duskblade 20//Wizard 3/Master Specialist 2/ War Weaver 5/ Master Specialist +yes seems potent but uncheesy.

Jumping out of Duskblade after level 13 for Abjurant Champion would be pretty swell, as well. Nice in that you get to keep all your melee casters on the same side of gestalt. Or you could cut out of master specialist early (don't really need master specialist capstone, so jumping out at 7 would be a decent option) and throw abjurant on that side. So duskblade 20//wizard 3/master specialist 2/war weaver 5/abjurant champion 5/master specialist +5 could work. But now you're looking rather confusing, and after Arcane Channeling (Full Attack), Duskblade class features don't seem so hot.

Remember that Abjurant Champion has a slew of abilities to burn your Duskblade spell slots on, as does the feat Arcane Strike (Complete Warrior).

Hmm. I just realized gestalt Duskblade//Evoker could actually be pretty fun. You can arcane channel "Any spell you know". Not just Duskblade spells.

[Gnaritas]

I think he's assuming Fractional (which everyone should be :smalltongue:)

Could you give an example on how that would help?

[PId6]

Edit: I found it and read it but why 3 of that class? To get the long age?
To get the BAB necessary for Abj Champ faster. Using all three levels, you qualify for Abj Champ by 10th level. You can exchange one level if you want but that'll delay getting into Abj Champ. (Fractional BAB is very helpful in that case.)

However, since it's gestalt, you'll have a much easier time getting into everything. In that case, try Duskblade 10/Wizard +1/Duskblade +9//Wiz 3/Mas Spec 2/Abj Champ 5/War Weaver 5/Anything 5

Anything can be any PrC with full casting. The easiest options are either more Master Specialist or Archmage.

[faceroll]

Archivist could be an alternative (Heroes of Horror iirc). You can get the druid spells within your flavor as well.

The other options is don't worry about the double casting stat.

Archivist is a dual casting stat class.

[PId6]

Archivist is a dual casting stat class.
True, but you don't really need Wis. It gives bonus slots, which are nice, but not hugely important especially when you've the spell slots of two classes.

[Optimystik]

True, but you don't really need Wis. It gives bonus slots, which are nice, but not hugely important especially when you've the spell slots of two classes.

In addition, they get plenty of base slots too. And if you really want to be SAD, that's just a feat away - Academic Priest from Dragonlance sets your bonus spells to Int, eliminating the problem.

[Khellendross]

I'll consider this all. I might just stay straight wizard/duskblade lol

[Paul H]

Hi

If you 'cross over' there is a good Abjurer sub-class of Wizard in Pathfinder..... :smallwink:

Cheers
Paul H