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Thefurmonger
2010-08-18, 05:17 PM
Hey all.

I'm sure it has come up before but has anyone made more Tier 3ish casters like these?

you know, a diviner, a transmuter stuff like that?

arguskos
2010-08-18, 05:19 PM
Damn right I did! My homebrew sig (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8086523&postcount=62) contains the Rearranger, the Savant, and the Summoner, all of which are in this vein (Transmutation, Divination/Abjuration, and Conjuration, respectively). They've all be play-tested, and though the Savant needs some reworking, the other two are quite solid.

Eldan
2010-08-18, 05:20 PM
I think I've seen an Oracle and a Summoner somewhere on these boards.

jiriku
2010-08-18, 05:23 PM
Me too. Elemental casters, in the sig.

Thefurmonger
2010-08-18, 07:34 PM
Arguskos, Why did you make them prepared casters?

Half the point of the 3 I asked about is the "you know all the spells on your list" thing.

DragoonWraith
2010-08-18, 08:04 PM
My Puppet Master (http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/index.php?title=Puppet_Master) focuses on summons and buffs, and is a full-list caster.

The rules for the puppet are massively over-wordy, though.

Jarrick
2010-08-18, 08:36 PM
My sig contains a summoner class, which has been somewhat playtested and found to be balanced. It draws somewhat from Arguskos's version of the same thing. Thanks again by the way, Arguskos.

arguskos
2010-08-18, 08:37 PM
Arguskos, Why did you make them prepared casters?

Half the point of the 3 I asked about is the "you know all the spells on your list" thing.
They're not all prepared, IIRC, but it's been awhile since I checked. It was just a thematic decision in general. If you don't like it, just change it. It doesn't change anything balance-wise.

Jarrick
2010-08-18, 08:51 PM
I made another class that works the same way, but I've never posted it for laziness reasons. My version of The Witch. I'd post it if someone wanted to do the work of table-ing it for me, as, like I said, I'm too lazy to do it myself.

DragoonWraith
2010-08-18, 09:55 PM
A table's hardly difficult to do: gimme BAB, Saves, and 20 levels worth of a Special column, and I'll do it for you.

Admiral Squish
2010-08-18, 10:21 PM
I made another class that works the same way, but I've never posted it for laziness reasons. My version of The Witch. I'd post it if someone wanted to do the work of table-ing it for me, as, like I said, I'm too lazy to do it myself.

My solution is just look for somebody else who made a base class, then quote the first post and steal their table, replacing their info with my own.

Jarrick
2010-08-18, 10:23 PM
A table's hardly difficult to do: gimme BAB, Saves, and 20 levels worth of a Special column, and I'll do it for you.

Not difficult, just time consuming. I've done it before. Your help is appreciated, since I dont have the time or patience to do this myself since I'm working on an entire campaign setting plus trying to write an adventure for next week's game.

Low base attack
Good Will Saves

1- Summon Familiar, Specialization
2- Hex 1/day, Woodland Stride
3- Brew Potion
4- Advanced Learning
5- Trackless Step
6- Hex 2/day
7- Flight
8- Advanced Learning
9- Hex 3/day
10- Ever-changing Beauty
11- Greater Hex
12- Advanced Learning, Hex 4/day
13- Improved Flight
14- Eternal Youth
15- Hex 5/day
16- Advanced Learning
17- Dire Hex
18- Hex 6/day
19- Master Flight
20- Advanced Learning, Rejuvenation

Spells per day: As warmage

No dead levels, just the way I like it.

Jallorn
2010-08-18, 10:24 PM
Here you are. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95336)

DragoonWraith
2010-08-18, 10:51 PM
Not difficult, just time consuming. I've done it before. Your help is appreciated, since I dont have the time or patience to do this myself since I'm working on an entire campaign setting plus trying to write an adventure for next week's game.
Heh, not a problem; some RegEx wizardry means I don't really spend very long on it:


{table=head] Level | BAB | Fort | Ref | Will | Special | 0th | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th

1st | +0 | +0 | +0 | +2 | Specialization, Summon Familiar | 5 | 3 | | | | | | | |

2nd | +1 | +0 | +0 | +3 | Hex 1/day, Woodland Stride | 6 | 4 | | | | | | | |

3rd | +1 | +1 | +1 | +3 | Brew Potion | 6 | 5 | | | | | | | |

4th | +2 | +1 | +1 | +4 | Advanced Learning | 6 | 6 | 3 | | | | | | |

5th | +2 | +1 | +1 | +4 | Trackless Step | 6 | 6 | 4 | | | | | | |

6th | +3 | +2 | +2 | +5 | Hex 2/day | 6 | 6 | 5 | 3 | | | | | |

7th | +3 | +2 | +2 | +5 | Flight | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | | | | | |

8th | +4 | +2 | +2 | +6 | Advanced Learning | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 3 | | | | |

9th | +4 | +3 | +3 | +6 | Hex 3/day | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | | | | |

10th | +5 | +3 | +3 | +7 | Ever-changing Beauty | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 3 | | | |

11th | +5 | +3 | +3 | +7 | Greater Hex | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | | | |

12th | +6/+1 | +4 | +4 | +8 | Advanced Learning, Hex 4/day | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 3 | | |

13th | +6/+1 | +4 | +4 | +8 | Improved Flight | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | | |

14th | +7/+2 | +4 | +4 | +9 | Eternal Youth | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 3 | |

15th | +7/+2 | +5 | +5 | +9 | Hex 5/day | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 | |

16th | +8/+3 | +5 | +5 | +10 | Advanced Learning | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 3 |

17th | +8/+3 | +5 | +5 | +10 | Dire Hex | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4 |

18th | +9/+4 | +6 | +6 | +11 | Hex 6/day | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 3

19th | +9/+4 | +6 | +6 | +11 | Master Flight | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 4

20th | +10/+5 | +6 | +6 | +12 | Advanced Learning, Rejuvenation | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 5
[/table]


The plaintext is all neatened out, but you can't tell with the size of GitP's textbox (plus non-monospaced-font).

Jarrick
2010-08-19, 06:49 AM
Beautiful. I'll post it in a new thread. Thanks again! :smallbiggrin:

Link: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9176244#

PairO'Dice Lost
2010-08-19, 08:33 AM
I think I've seen an Oracle and a Summoner somewhere on these boards.

The Oracle is mine.