herrhauptmann
2010-10-31, 03:46 PM
A few years back, a friend gave me a copy of a world he had been working on with some of his other friends. Among other things, there were 3 new base classes, one of which really caught my eye.
The Mancer.
He is an elemental caster/warrior. Though it's called the mancer, it's really a set of 4 different classes, because each mancer is attuned to one element. This element affects which spells he receives, as well as certain immunities and resistances. This element is chosen at level 1, and cannot be changed.
The problem though, is the mancer spell list. My friend didn't have a complete copy, and a great many of the spells that were on there, were either entirely homebrew, or were altered versions of existing spells.
So I wanted to get some help from the forums.
For thematics: Air=electricity, Water=frost/ice,
Air opposes earth, Fire opposes water.
What does everyone think about these spells? Good choices? overpowered/ weak (in comparison to one another)? And what would be good writeups for some of the water spells? My own homebrew is fairly poor, and I have an even harder time creating balanced spells.
1st level spells (gained at level 1)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Mire | Burning hands|Shocking Grasp|Grease
Tremor | Lure of flame|Fingers of Wind|Obscuring Mist
Harden| Flame Shield|Benign Transposition|Refresh
[/table]
2nd level spells (gained at level 3)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Spike Stone (minor) | Weapon of Flame|Wind Armor|*****
Granite Hide | Flame Jet|Levitate|Blur
Earthen Grasp| Body of Fire|Wind Blade|Dehydrate
[/table]
3rd level (gained at level 5)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Melt into Stone | Fiery Rage|Blink|Displacement
Erupting Earth| Fireball|Lightning Bolt|********
Encase in Stone| Ray of Exhaustion|Haste|******
[/table]
4th level (gained at level 7)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Pillar of Stone | Blistering Radiance|Force Wave|***
Spike Stone | Melt Metal|Invisibility Greater|****
Stone Skin| Fire Stride|Freedom of Movement|***
[/table]
5th (gained at level 9)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Earths Embrace| Fireburst, greater|Cyclonic Blast|Solid Fog
Passwall | Wave of Exhaustion|Teleport|****
Stoneblast| Prison of Fire|Wall of Force|****
[/table]
6th (gained at level 11)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Earth Wave| Magma Vent|Chain Lightning|****
Stone Body | Spontaneous Combustion|Control Wind|****
Wall of Iron| Lava Skin|Greater Teleport|****
[/table]
Spell Notes for homebrew spells
All of these notes are exactly as I was given them. haven't done anything to compare them to regular spells, yet.
The basic idea of the spells. At each spell level, a mancer has the opportunity for damage, battlefield control, buff/debuff.
Water was supposed to have a lot of completely homebrew spells, the primordial soup of life type of thing. So lots of healing/restoratives/superbuffs.
Fingers of wind:
--Wind Armor: Deflection armor bonus, 1/ every 3 caster levels. Doubled against ranged attacs
--Wind blade:
--Force Wind: Upgraded gust of wind, double everything
--Flame Jet: Lightning bolt, but fire damage
--Body of Fire: Like 'Body of Sun' from SC
--Melt metal: Like heat metal, fort save DC 10+.5CL + attribute. Success (see heat metal). Fail: metal melts, take damage from molten metal. magic items get magic bonus to save.
--Fire burst: Take a fire, it explodes, 1d10/CL. max is 15d10.
--Prison of Fire: Like Force cage, can do continual heat effect same a wall of fire. Touching does 1d6 fire per round
--Spontaneous Combustion, like disintegrate, success and you take fire damage
--Lava skin: Lava on skin (as DMG), your stuff is A-OK
--Magma Vent: makes volcano. medium range. 1d6 fire falls from sky, 30ft radius, for 1 round/CL. Reflex save for half. Fail 3 saves, are covered in lava, see DMG 305.
--Erupting earth: See Ice Flowers, no ice damage, max 10d6
The Mancer.
He is an elemental caster/warrior. Though it's called the mancer, it's really a set of 4 different classes, because each mancer is attuned to one element. This element affects which spells he receives, as well as certain immunities and resistances. This element is chosen at level 1, and cannot be changed.
The problem though, is the mancer spell list. My friend didn't have a complete copy, and a great many of the spells that were on there, were either entirely homebrew, or were altered versions of existing spells.
So I wanted to get some help from the forums.
For thematics: Air=electricity, Water=frost/ice,
Air opposes earth, Fire opposes water.
What does everyone think about these spells? Good choices? overpowered/ weak (in comparison to one another)? And what would be good writeups for some of the water spells? My own homebrew is fairly poor, and I have an even harder time creating balanced spells.
1st level spells (gained at level 1)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Mire | Burning hands|Shocking Grasp|Grease
Tremor | Lure of flame|Fingers of Wind|Obscuring Mist
Harden| Flame Shield|Benign Transposition|Refresh
[/table]
2nd level spells (gained at level 3)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Spike Stone (minor) | Weapon of Flame|Wind Armor|*****
Granite Hide | Flame Jet|Levitate|Blur
Earthen Grasp| Body of Fire|Wind Blade|Dehydrate
[/table]
3rd level (gained at level 5)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Melt into Stone | Fiery Rage|Blink|Displacement
Erupting Earth| Fireball|Lightning Bolt|********
Encase in Stone| Ray of Exhaustion|Haste|******
[/table]
4th level (gained at level 7)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Pillar of Stone | Blistering Radiance|Force Wave|***
Spike Stone | Melt Metal|Invisibility Greater|****
Stone Skin| Fire Stride|Freedom of Movement|***
[/table]
5th (gained at level 9)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Earths Embrace| Fireburst, greater|Cyclonic Blast|Solid Fog
Passwall | Wave of Exhaustion|Teleport|****
Stoneblast| Prison of Fire|Wall of Force|****
[/table]
6th (gained at level 11)
{table=Head]Earth|Fire|Wind|Water
Earth Wave| Magma Vent|Chain Lightning|****
Stone Body | Spontaneous Combustion|Control Wind|****
Wall of Iron| Lava Skin|Greater Teleport|****
[/table]
Spell Notes for homebrew spells
All of these notes are exactly as I was given them. haven't done anything to compare them to regular spells, yet.
The basic idea of the spells. At each spell level, a mancer has the opportunity for damage, battlefield control, buff/debuff.
Water was supposed to have a lot of completely homebrew spells, the primordial soup of life type of thing. So lots of healing/restoratives/superbuffs.
Fingers of wind:
--Wind Armor: Deflection armor bonus, 1/ every 3 caster levels. Doubled against ranged attacs
--Wind blade:
--Force Wind: Upgraded gust of wind, double everything
--Flame Jet: Lightning bolt, but fire damage
--Body of Fire: Like 'Body of Sun' from SC
--Melt metal: Like heat metal, fort save DC 10+.5CL + attribute. Success (see heat metal). Fail: metal melts, take damage from molten metal. magic items get magic bonus to save.
--Fire burst: Take a fire, it explodes, 1d10/CL. max is 15d10.
--Prison of Fire: Like Force cage, can do continual heat effect same a wall of fire. Touching does 1d6 fire per round
--Spontaneous Combustion, like disintegrate, success and you take fire damage
--Lava skin: Lava on skin (as DMG), your stuff is A-OK
--Magma Vent: makes volcano. medium range. 1d6 fire falls from sky, 30ft radius, for 1 round/CL. Reflex save for half. Fail 3 saves, are covered in lava, see DMG 305.
--Erupting earth: See Ice Flowers, no ice damage, max 10d6