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Feriority

2011-01-07, 01:16 AM

I've been reading this thread for a while and finally re-registered, because I've been sitting on these thoughts since the start of the LP, when MG claimed snipers are suck.

Snipers are suck?! Sure, maybe if you do nothing but random games on pubs with people who think K/D is more important than winning the game...

Here's why everyone thinks snipers are suck: because the people who tend to play snipers are the ones whose goals are most at odds with what the sniper is good for. They play as loners and instead of being a support character, they try to be the big hero, which might work for other gunner builds but is a terrible choice for the sniper. Yeah, you'll probably get more hero kills than the rest of your team, but that just means that all the XP is going to the player who does the least to complete actual game objectives, which *hurts* the team in the long run.

I'm not going to write an in-dept strategy guide for sniper builds, there's better out there ([B&B]CryWolf wrote the one I swear by), but the quick and dirty version is simple:

Weaknesses of the sniper: Low fire rate, ridiculously suboptimal for recruiting/leading/promoting minions, complete lack of built-in AOE/DoT effects

Strengths: Absurd range, *ability to use specialized ammunition*, tons of damage in a single attack

The specialized ammo mechanic is the key, though it's understandable to miss that since not a lot of players actually take advantage of it. When I go sniper, any time my team's primary casters aren't out doing something important, I'm bothering them to cast spells on my ammo. I like working with psions most, but just about any casty class will work. Get specialized ammo with either AOEs, status effects, or both - one sniper round dealing damage might not change a fight that your ally is in when it's way over their head, but when that round stuns the primary target and slows everybody around them, it means your soldier and their minions can actually retreat.

And sure, you're not one-shotting elite minions and lieutenants anymore, but you *are* doing ridiculous amounts of damage to an entire squad of enemies, which makes it that much easier for your team to just roll through them. Just watch how much of each type of ammo you have, because your casters are only making you so much and it's rare that you can actually get more off them while you're all out and active, not meeting back at your fortress. Use regular shots when you don't need the special effects.

Now make use of that range - in the early game, when people are splitting up, get in a good position where your range lets you cover multiple allies at once. In the late game, when it comes down to team fights, use your range to ensure that your team is dealing damage before anyone else has gotten attacks off, then use it to watch the entire battlefield and do things like warning your teammates that there's a berserker hiding behind that conveniently large rock, lining up a Frenzied Charge that's going to hit them all. Then watch the berserker charge out and enjoy the look of confusion when all of his targets saw him coming and managed to dodge. Then ruin the look of confusion with a shot to the face.

And once in a while, just go with the classic sniper mentality anyway. One-shotting lieutenants and killing enemy players who thought they'd escaped because they were out of your teammate's melee range is satisfying, good for your stats, and genuinely helps your team, done right.

There's only really two downsides to this build - one, you're still bad with minions, which weakens your whole team, and two, your casters would probably rather be casting on their own, not doing ranged casting through you - they're going to be short on energy or you're going to be short on useful shells. It's a delicate balance, and it takes a lot of teamwork to pull off, but I think it's worth it long-term.

Domochevsky

2011-01-07, 08:14 PM

> Domo: Get MURDERISED by ANGRY MOB

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_Filler_7.png

CADDYBEARS can't /dance.

> RM: Duke it out with AM! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10128679#post10128679)

AgentPaper

2011-01-07, 09:10 PM

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-07, 09:18 PM

Sorry about my...disappearance. Every once in a while I just get into this kind of funk where I can't be bothered to do anything at all and convince myself that nothing's worth doing. It's pretty much the reason I could never do well in school for very long, but it's always quite the temporary condition so I'm back and gengame will be continuing...as soon as I finish all this homework I've been putting off for so long. (thank god for online colleges :smalltongue:)

Fair enough, I've been through something similar a few times so I'll understand at least some of this and also at the same time be the least sympathetic person around simply because I do understand:smallsigh:

averagejoe

2011-01-07, 09:25 PM

>RM: Outmurderise ANGRY MOB

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-08, 12:21 AM

I'm trying to work on fanart... i'm just lazy is all XD

Thanatos 51-50

2011-01-08, 07:10 AM

Thanatos will post FanFiction soon.

Domochevsky

2011-01-09, 09:15 PM

> RM: Duke it out with AM!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_Filler_8.png

NNNNYYYYYEEEEOOOOWWWW!

> GenGame: Continue (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10191044#post10191044)

The Dark Fiddler

2011-01-09, 09:36 PM

>Domo: Create and break fifth wall.

Fawkes

2011-01-10, 01:44 PM

Fun fact: I can't see any of Domo's images on my school's internet. I think it's blocking them because the word 'nude' is in the url.

Come to think of it, why is the word 'nude' in the url?

Oracle_Hunter

2011-01-10, 01:53 PM

Come to think of it, why is the word 'nude' in the url?
Heh heh heh (http://www.webcomicsnation.com/shaenongarrity/narbonic/series.php?view=archive&chapter=9834) :smallamused:

That's a shame though, 'cause it's very pretty :smallbiggrin:

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-10, 01:54 PM

maybe Domo plays Gengame with that illegal porderican nudemod?:smallwink:

Domochevsky

2011-01-10, 02:44 PM

maybe Domo plays Gengame with that illegal porderican nudemod?:smallwink:

Pschk, that mod was never illegal apart from the fact that GenCorp doesn't want people tampering with their files. "You could be doing anything with these mods! We can't have that!" Bunch of wussies. :smallwink:

(I see someone knows what one of the (many) other purposes of that webspace is. :smallredface: )

AgentPaper

2011-01-12, 11:39 PM

I'm going to be on a hiatus from gengame for the immediate future for personal reasons, probably something like a week to a month. Domochevsky may or may not be posting updates in my absence. I'll give you guys more info on the specifics as soon as I can. Sorry to drag you all on for the past week like this. :smallfrown: (especially Domo)

I may still be active in the thread here and/or the process of making the comic, but it'll be much less so, and there will most likely be no animated updates unless someone else takes over for me in that department.

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-12, 11:45 PM

Maybe we could do a big group picture thing? like say i draw SM, fiddler draws MG, hunter draws BH, thanatos draws the dispenser, ETC; then we all send the images to Domo, who puts them all together in a ">Pose as a team because Gengame just got real!" thing?

averagejoe

2011-01-13, 12:16 AM

>RM: RAGE OUT at this new development while also hoping that AP's personal life turns out alright in the most RAGEFUL way possible.

Gralamin

2011-01-15, 03:48 PM

>AP & DOMO: Keep GenGame alive.

Domochevsky

2011-01-15, 06:48 PM

>AP & DOMO: Keep GenGame alive.

Working on it. I got Dispo to do the animation for the next update. Once that's done with we can get back to regular updates. I can probably do those on my own until AP is back up to snuff.

Flickerdart

2011-01-15, 09:47 PM

> BH, SM, MG: Gain LEVELS from the off-screen GRINDING you have been doing these past few weeks.

HypoSoc

2011-01-15, 10:13 PM

Rocket: Contemplate Existence from Beyond the Glitch

Domochevsky

2011-01-19, 12:12 AM

> GenGame: Continue

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_309.gif

You step on a formerly UNSEEN PRESSURE PLATE, setting things in motion that may or may not resemble a SCRIPTED EVENT.

Oh dear.

> SM: Use boss monster weapon! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10203030#post10203030)

Domochevsky

2011-01-19, 12:15 AM

Man, finally this is dealt with... from here on out we should be back on track for regular updates. :smallsmile:

(No animations for a while. I hate having to sit around and twiddle my thumbs until things may or may not be done in the animation department. >_> )

Gralamin

2011-01-19, 12:29 AM

>SM: Attempt to find the SCRIPTED ENCOUNTER's WEAK POINT.

BRC

2011-01-19, 12:55 AM

Alright, we've got a Lord of Shadows to contend with. Unless it's a Shadow Lord, I always mix the two up.
We've disarmed him, which is good. He could stomp us flat, which is bad. We need to stay mobile, not let him corner us. a Blade Dance: Twinblade Tango might work here.

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-19, 07:06 AM

>SM: Kill the monster during the long-winded preamble.

Traker

2011-01-19, 02:22 PM

SM: Use boss monster weapon!

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-19, 02:27 PM

>Faux Latin choir: ask when you will get paid.

>DemonBear: improvise! Rip a colum from its place and use it as a giant mace!

>CB: Support binge; Rain of a thousand sword hilts!

>SM: Arm yourself with this demons own weapon!

HypoSoc

2011-01-19, 08:28 PM

>CB: Offer Political Magazine in Solemn Offering to the Demon Bear Guardian (Then Assassinate it while it is Distracted to once again Possess the Political Magazine)

The Dark Fiddler

2011-01-19, 08:59 PM

>Scripted Event: Bear your most powerful attack on these intruders right away, as punishment for ruining your weapon.

>SM: Circle around the boss, try and make him dizzy.

>CB: Support.

Gamerlord

2011-01-19, 09:33 PM

>Scripted boss: MOCK the FOOLISH MORTALS who did not bother to realize they are not SUFFICIENTLY GEARED to DEFEAT YOU.... AGH-MUTAR THE HIGH-PRIEST!
>SM: YELL at CADDYBEAR FOR NOT PROVIDING ENOUGH HEALING N00B L2P!

Domochevsky

2011-01-20, 07:36 PM

> SM: Use boss monster weapon!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_311.png

But it's not a SWORD! Nevermind the size difference. Not that size matters or anything, but there is a upper limit to consider.

> DEMONBEAR: improvise! Rip a colum from its place and use it as a giant mace! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10203041#post10203041)

Domochevsky

2011-01-20, 07:37 PM

> DEMONBEAR: improvise! Rip a colum from its place and use it as a giant mace!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_312.png

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_313.png

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_312t.png

> SM: Wait until boss swings at you, then use resulting quicktime event to dodge the attack, roll under his legs, and hamstring him. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10215040#post10215040)

BRC

2011-01-20, 07:39 PM

Inform the Boss that the sign said Free Insolence.

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-20, 07:52 PM

>SM: Destroy the pillar-mace in five seconds of swordsmanship.

Zeful

2011-01-20, 08:32 PM

Inform the Boss that the sign said Free Insolence.

>: Inform Boss of the sign notifying "Free Insolence".

Remember only commands in bold are considered.

HypoSoc

2011-01-20, 09:02 PM

>CB: Heroically Hide behind Door

The Dark Fiddler

2011-01-20, 09:33 PM

>CB: It's pronounced wingaaardium leviosaaah.

Flickerdart

2011-01-20, 10:44 PM

> SM: Mash (A) to throw SPHERE at BOSS

Kelvara

2011-01-20, 10:50 PM

>SM: Wait until boss swings at you, then use resulting quicktime event to dodge the attack, roll under his legs, and hamstring him.

Gamerlord

2011-01-20, 10:53 PM

>DEMONBEAR: SUMMON a PAIR OF MINIONS
>CB: Use your special HEALING MAGIC to support SM
>SM: DPSDPSDPS FOR THE LOVE OF GENCOLA DPSDPSDPS!

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-21, 12:37 PM

i just armed the demonbear:smallbiggrin:

SM: Sword dance: rain of a hundred deaths!

CB: Calmly recommend SM use the ten silver for this one.

DB: Do some demon...bear...ey... things!

HypoSoc

2011-01-21, 06:04 PM

> SM: Mash (A) to throw SPHERE at BOSS

This game uses telepathy, remember?

flabort

2011-01-21, 07:06 PM

>Improvise for yourself! break off the spear and use it as a sword, If you have to! Or just use the Powdered Silk Ribbon Manuever to get on it's shoulders and then behead it with a sword...
Hey, it should work. It's one of the few stealth-type maneuvers that doesn't sound specifically harmful to animals, and could actually help in a combat situation.
It's a lot better than the Disemboweled Puppy Prance. Or the Kitten Klobbering Krash. That is both the worst stealth-type move, ever, and the worst spelled. yeesh. You'd think Gencorp, Gencentral, and the Genquarters would follow trademark and copyright laws, considering how many of each they've got.
I mean, Immortal Krafting is probably the most recognized title these days beyond anything Gen-made. Using their Famous C=K trademark should get them a fine, at least!

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-21, 10:28 PM

[All non-Gencorp related companies shall fall. there is no resistance. Gencorp little league; its the best for your kids.]

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-22, 06:52 AM

[All non-Gencorp related companies shall fall. there is no resistance. Gencorp little league; its the best for your kids.]

Sorry, we forgot this in our last message. VOTE GENERIC PARTY

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-22, 03:26 PM

[Try Gencorp eye implants! see the world better then you ever could before! mayormaynotcontainmindcontrolchips Gencorp: Bringing the world together, one Generic way at a time.]

Domochevsky

2011-01-22, 06:12 PM

> SM: Wait until boss swings at you, then use resulting quicktime event to dodge the attack, roll under his legs, and hamstring him.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_314.png

You hate QTE!

> DB: Call upon your unholy allies! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10238200#post10238200)

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-22, 06:20 PM

>SM: Destroy the improvised weapon, any way you can.

Obviously this guy can keep pace with SM, so we need to stand back and reduce his ability to inflict damage by destroying his weapon, one piece at a time.

AsteriskAmp

2011-01-22, 06:55 PM

>Lure Runedbear into hitting the black immovable orb by running clockwise faster than his swing, upon hitting the orb he will be paralysed, take you chance and lunge forward.

flabort

2011-01-22, 08:55 PM

I repeat my vote to Use the Powdered Silk Ribbon maneuver to get on it's shoulders and then decapitate it.

Imposter

2011-01-22, 11:02 PM

>SM: Health potions. Many health potions. All of the health potions.

It's a time honored tactic that has served me well in many games.

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-23, 04:09 PM

>CB: Mistress is in danger! Engage Bearfury rage!

>SM: Dodge the blows until the Demonbear strikes the ground. While he is picking the club up, hop onto it and run up to his head and deliver a blow to the skull

>DB: Call upon your unholy allies!

Domochevsky

2011-01-26, 01:39 AM

> DB: Call upon your unholy allies!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_315.png

You don't know who this voice in your head is, but you like how it thinks.

> SM: Health potions. Many health potions. All of the health potions. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10238204#post10238204)

Domochevsky

2011-01-26, 01:41 AM

> SM: Health potions. Many health potions. All of the health potions.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_316.png

You have none of the health potions. It probably would have been a good idea to grab a few from the VENDING MACHINE back at the MECHANOFORTRESS.

This is quite inopportune, given the current situation.

> BH: Create multiple clones of SM to draw the enemy's attention (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10255977#post10255977)

AsteriskAmp

2011-01-26, 01:50 AM

>CB: Tell the other bears to attack runebear as he is the origin of pain and hatred of their race, also, remind them he is tastier than Mistress.
>SM: Run on circle-like CCW in relation to Runebear trayectory, evading DB allies and making him hit them with the column instead, after he is stopped, lunge in and retreat away from column range.

>BH: Generate healing potions in SM pockets.

Domochevsky

2011-01-26, 01:50 AM

Stupid TVTropes... wasted 6 hours... *mumble* >_>
(The lack of a co-conspirator kinda puts a damper on the whole productivity aspect of this. Anyone up for the task of co-author until AP is back in action? Doing this on my own is met with unbecoming delays.)

AsteriskAmp

2011-01-26, 01:52 AM

Domochevsky

2011-01-26, 02:26 AM

What does a co-author do?

The same as AP and me: evaluate commands (which to pick), ponder happenings (how does GG react), plot story and keep track of what happened so far and how it all fits together (instead of just me doing all this, like right now.).
And maybe even be entertaining during all of this. Since... y'know that's what this is for. Entertaining readers. >_>

And of course have access to IRC, since that's where the magic happens.

AsteriskAmp

2011-01-26, 02:32 AM

The same as AP and me: evaluate commands (which to pick), ponder happenings (how does GG react), plot story and keep track of what happened so far and how it all fits together (instead of just me doing all this, like right now.).
And maybe even be entertaining during all of this. Since... y'know that's what this is for. Entertaining readers. >_>

And of course have access to IRC, since that's where the magic happens.
So, no drawing or anything?
>If no, count me in.
>If yes, count me in.

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-26, 02:45 PM

i would offer, but school keeps me away from home for most of the day now. plus that means I wouldn’t get to enter any more commands! :P

also: what’s this about a runebear? we haven’t seen him since he stole the holy flame. this guy is the demonbear.

>SM: Bladedance! Four swords of pain!

>CB: Supply mistress with low-level healing magic’s

>DB: moar minions? Y/N?

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-26, 04:24 PM

BH: Create multiple clones of SM to draw the enemy's attention

CB: Bring to bear your MIGHTY POWER against the enemy.

SM: Reveal the new weapon you didn't know you had, the CONCLUSIVE CALIBRATING CLAYMORE (now bigger, flashier and more powerful)

DB: Perform crazy dance routine rather than fighting SM for no readily apparent reason

Gamerlord

2011-01-26, 09:01 PM

>DB: BEGIN PHASE ONE OF BOSS FIGHT
>SM&CB: HAVE NO CLUE how to DEAL WITH PHASE ONE AND GET CURBSTOMPED

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-27, 06:25 PM

>sm: Logout! Its The Only Way!!!

Gamerlord

2011-01-27, 06:34 PM

The same as AP and me: evaluate commands (which to pick), ponder happenings (how does GG react), plot story and keep track of what happened so far and how it all fits together (instead of just me doing all this, like right now.).
And maybe even be entertaining during all of this. Since... y'know that's what this is for. Entertaining readers. >_>

And of course have access to IRC, since that's where the magic happens.

What form of IRC?

If no drawing, color me as interested.

Domochevsky

2011-01-27, 07:41 PM

I wasn't aware that there are different forms of IRC. >_>
Also yes, drawing is purely done by me.

Note: This is a daily type of deal due to the nature of GenGame, so please only have at it if you can match that, hmkay? :smallsmile:

Gamerlord

2011-01-27, 08:25 PM

Domochevsky

2011-01-27, 08:31 PM

By that I mean if you are using skype/MSN/Genmessanger, the faster IM service in the world!

No, IRC refers to Internet Relay Chat, a protocol that can be used by mIRC, for example. Instant Messenging is a option as well, though. MSN and ICQ are options for those who qualify (and are willing to put up with it). :smallwink:

The Dark Fiddler

2011-01-27, 09:56 PM

>Minions: She has allied with one of you! Turn on MASTER and serve HUMAN!

Also, I'd love to try and be co-author, but it seems my mom's computer cannot connect to IRC in any way without me editing the firewall settings... which will get me banned from the computer. Such is life.

GreenMuffin

2011-01-27, 11:52 PM

>CB: Throw the torch at the big scary possibly distant relative of yours who is attacking mistress

HypoSoc

2011-01-28, 12:09 PM

I'd love to be a co-conspiritor, and I have loads of time, but I am going on vacation this weekend, but if you still need someone after that, I'd be happy to help.

Domochevsky

2011-01-28, 04:32 PM

> BH: Create multiple clones of SM to draw the enemy's attention

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_317.png

Kinda busy here!

> DB: moar minions? Y/N? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10255983#post10255983)

Domochevsky

2011-01-28, 04:33 PM

> DB: moar minions? Y/N?

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_318.png

Always.

You then decide to go through your STANDARD BOSS ROUTINE.
You SIT BACK and GLOAT while your minions surely will take care of this puny player.

> SM&CB: HAVE NO CLUE how to deal with PHASE ONE and GET CURBSTOMPED (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10255990#post10255990)

Domochevsky

2011-01-28, 04:34 PM

> SM&CB: HAVE NO CLUE how to deal with PHASE ONE and GET CURBSTOMPED

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_319.png

Pschyeah, that'll happen. You're a PROFESSIONAL ADVENTURESS, you know how this works!

At least you hope you do. How difficult could it be? It's not like this is a HORDE or anything like that.

> CB: Bring to bear your MIGHTY POWER against the enemy. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10255995#post10255995)

Domochevsky

2011-01-28, 04:35 PM

> CB: Bring to bear your MIGHTY POWER against the enemy.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_320.png

Uhm... fancy a sword, anyone?

> SM: Fancy a sword. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10275170#post10275170)

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-28, 05:52 PM

>SM: Fancy a sword.

>SM: Bladedance!

remind me to type in ">BH: recall recent past" next time we see her. maybe the whole "kind of busy" and then avoiding retelling the story can become a gengame meme :P

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-28, 06:48 PM

SM: Wield Demonbear as weapon to mop up minions. Alternatively, if able, mop up minions with a real mop.

Gamerlord

2011-01-28, 06:49 PM

>DB: Activate your CRUEL LAUGHTER attack.
>SM: Have no clue what this attack does and get caught in the blast,stunning yourself for 15d6 rounds.
>CB: Start hitting stuff with your BEAR FISTS.

Gralamin

2011-01-29, 03:00 PM

>CB: Fire a sword to SM with your CADDY BAG SWORD CANNON.
>SM: Impale nearest enemy, catch recently fired sword, and strike down another enemy.

Domochevsky

2011-01-31, 03:15 PM

> SM: Fancy a sword.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_321.png

Specifically a sword that does a bit more damage. Your current ones just don’t seem to be getting the job done.

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10275180#post10275180)

Domochevsky

2011-01-31, 03:16 PM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_322.png

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_323.png

In a CLIMACTIC BATTLE such as this, the PROFESSIONAL ADVENTURESS knows to go all out!

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10275188#post10275188)

Domochevsky

2011-01-31, 03:18 PM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_324.png

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_324t.png

> CB: notice CONVENIENTLY LOCATED ANTI-BOSS TOOL. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10283707#post10283707)

flabort

2011-01-31, 05:34 PM

Oh, now it's PERSONAL!
No one hurts SM THAT MUCH without being ground to a fine powder.
SM: Butcher the B*tc*. :smallfurious:

Cieyrin

2011-01-31, 05:45 PM

CB: Enter Feral Mode and save Mistress!
SM: Vorpal Death Blossom!

Gamerlord

2011-01-31, 05:52 PM

>DB: Attackattackattack!
>SM: Attackattackattack!
>CB: The Mistress Has Been Attacked! Attackattackattack!

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-31, 06:49 PM

SM or CB (whichever is more appropriate): Turn the air and the darkness around you into powerful swords and strike down the enemy

DB: Forget everything else as well as the standard boss routine (amnesia's a real pain in the neck, don'tcha know...)

Edit: Think that Caddybear is actually a standard-bearer... An NPC class with pretty much nothing but support capabilities (in fact, it actually gets a negative attack stat)

Gamerlord

2011-01-31, 07:39 PM

Mercenary Pen

2011-01-31, 08:07 PM

Yeah, but if you train that attack stat enough it gets turned into a SQUIREBEAR, which is awesome.

I'm sure that's not the class name though, it isn't sufficiently puntastic... Besides- I thought that Standard-Bearers were set to reduce their attack stats even further as they levelled.

AsteriskAmp

2011-01-31, 08:31 PM

>SM: Roll to the side and dodge the next attack, afterwards STRIKE WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT!

Draconi Redfir

2011-01-31, 09:02 PM

Did those swords just shatter?

i hereby dub them one-use shadowswords.

>DB: ignore this order; just do your own thing.

>SM: get up and charge your CALIBRATING CLAYMORE!
>SM: break out the CALIBRATING CLAYMORE and bring on the PAIN!

>CB: notice CONVENIENTLY LOCATED ANTI-BOSS TOOL.

Domochevsky

2011-02-01, 05:44 PM

> CB: notice CONVENIENTLY LOCATED ANTI-BOSS TOOL.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_325.png

You notice the bag of ANTI-BOSS TOOLS conveniently strapped to your back. Such weapons have been used by many famous heroes throughout history to dispatch all manner of nefarious and wicked boss creatures, such as the magical DRAGICORN, the villainous ONE-EYED ARACHNO QUEEN, and the legendary TWIN GIANT SPACE APOCALOWORMS.

Why, without a SWORD, what would even be the point of stunning a boss monster with the special item inevitably found in their dungeon?

Yes, nothing quite beats the trustworthiness or quiet dignity of the SWORD when it comes to defeating boss monsters, and the thought that your MISTRESS might somehow find herself without one fills you with apprehension and dread.

> SM: Turn the air and the darkness around you into powerful swords and strike down the enemy (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10283718#post10283718)

Domochevsky

2011-02-01, 05:45 PM

> SM: Turn the air and the darkness around you into powerful swords and strike down the enemy

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_326.png

You have too much of a THROBBING HEADACHE to do that, courtesy of this LILY-LIVERED SCOUNDREL.

Either that, or your CALIBRATING CLAYMORE doesn't have enough CHARGES.

> SM: Unleash a HEROIC STUNT for extra damage and charges for your CALIBRATING CLAYMORE! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10316046#post10316046)

flabort

2011-02-01, 05:48 PM

CB: Find the SPECIAL ITEM with which to stun the boss!
SM: Rip that boss to shreds.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-01, 06:04 PM

A practical note, the background color you're using at the moment is actually too dark for me to make out most of the detail you're putting in to these... I actually have the same problem with TV during night scenes and space scenes...

SM: Keep charging your CALIBRATING CLAYMORE until you can unleash GREATER FEATS OF AWESOME- then proceed to do so.

CB: Place a battle standard (from where it is obviously being carried) to grant a boost to your MISTRESS' attacks.
Hopefully the latter might give an additional chance of critical hits...

Jair Barik

2011-02-01, 06:09 PM

SM: There's no shame in running away... well... except for the inherint shame of cowardice... but still leg it and go grind some moar!

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-01, 07:35 PM

>SM: Block block swing block!

>SM: Stab grab stab grab stab grab!

>CB: throw SWORDS at MISTRESS in a very BAD[GEN] MANNER.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-01, 07:38 PM

SM: There's no shame in running away... well... except for the inherint shame of cowardice... but still leg it and go grind some moar!

You mean you weren't aware that some classes actually get penalties for repeated acts of cowardice? As far as I know, SM is in one of these...

Lord_Gareth

2011-02-01, 10:14 PM

SM: Unleash a Heroic Stunt for extra damage and charges for your Calibrating Claymore.

Flickerdart

2011-02-01, 10:58 PM

>SM: You don't have time for this idiot. CHARGE!

Zen Master

2011-02-02, 08:40 AM

>SM: Dodge behind the remaining pillars in the room, tricking the RUNED BOSS BEAR into COLLAPSING THE CEILING on top of himself (also, you)

Domochevsky

2011-02-06, 03:36 AM

> SM: Unleash a HEROIC STUNT for extra damage and charges for your CALIBRATING CLAYMORE!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_327.png

You realize that this is just the time to be HEROIC, and there’s no better way to do that than by executing a DARING AND POTENTIALLY DEADLY FEAT OF MARTIAL PROWESS.

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10316051#post10316051)

Domochevsky

2011-02-06, 03:37 AM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_328.png

Gathering three CHARGES of your CALIBRATING CLAYMORE, you unleash your PARTS DE DEUX sword technique!

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10316058#post10316058)

Domochevsky

2011-02-06, 03:38 AM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_329.png

Wait, was that charges FOR or OF your CALIBRATING CLAYMORE? You can only charge this thing BY killing enemies, but you also use it TO kill enemies... you're getting confused. You wonder-

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10316061#post10316061)

Domochevsky

2011-02-06, 03:39 AM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_330.png

Ow, your headache!

> SM: There's no shame in running away... well... except for the inherent shame of cowardice... (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10316066#post10316066)

Domochevsky

2011-02-06, 03:40 AM

> SM: There's no shame in running away... well... except for the inherent shame of cowardice...

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_331.png

You’re not sure how such an absurd notion got into your head, but the very idea of running away fills you with horror and self-loathing.
Why, you’re a PROFESSIONAL ADVENTURESS, well versed in the art of SWORDSWOMANSHIP and a STALWART DEFENDER OF THE INNOCENT. Running away for any reason would shame you in a professional, social, personal, and quite possibly legal manner.
If you were ever to run away from a fight, the shame would be so great that it would doubtlessly lead to a loss of personal integrity, culminating into a spiral of self destruction that would eventually mean your complete and utter downfall.

There’s no other way than to let this play out. Honor, integrity, and your sense of self demand it.

> ...but still leg it and go grind some moar! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10316069#post10316069)

Domochevsky

2011-02-06, 03:41 AM

> ...but still leg it and go grind some moar!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_332.png

Being the honorable individual you are, you exit through the SUSPICIOUSLY UNLOCKED DOORS. You don’t ponder the EQUALLY SUSPICIOUS IMPLICATIONS, as your sense of FAIR PLAY demands that you do this individual the honor of fighting him at equal strength. You tell the DEMONBEAR to not go anywhere, you’ll be right back.

Man, what a terrible situation.

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10316076#post10316076)

Domochevsky

2011-02-06, 03:42 AM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_333.png

Suddenly you are MG, and you find yourself in DIRE STRAIGHTS.

This machine just gave you a delicious and refreshing ZEPHYROUS CHOCOLATE MINT DELIGHT GENCOLA, when only the slightly more delicious BANANA-RASBERRY RUMPUS RUMBLE GENCOLA has the amazing thirst-quenching FLAVOR and sufficient HEALING and STAT BOOSTS to tempt a gamer of your caliber.

What a terrible situation!

> MG: "Fix" the machine. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10325988#post10325988)

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-06, 03:45 AM

MG: Perform INVENTIVE MAINTENANCE on vending machine, which may ot may not involve creating additional holes in it.

flabort

2011-02-06, 12:50 PM

Kick it like it deserves! Nothing withholds your STAT BOOSTS!

BRC

2011-02-06, 01:35 PM

> Find an ALCHEMICAL ALCOVE, where you may combine various INGREDIENTS to create new and exciting flavors of GENCOLA

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-06, 02:57 PM

>MG: Introduce NEW ADDITIONS to TEAM!

>MG: Recall recent past

Jair Barik

2011-02-06, 03:11 PM

>MG: Perform ZOOM OUT MONTAGE to establish location

The Dark Fiddler

2011-02-06, 09:54 PM

>MG: "Fix" the machine.

GreenMuffin

2011-02-06, 10:18 PM

>Use whatever you got to tear apart the machine and get your GenCola

Domochevsky

2011-02-07, 03:52 PM

> MG: "Fix" the machine.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_334.png

As a MECHANIST, you are exceptionally good at “Fixing” things. In fact, you completely leave other classes in the dust as far as “Fixing” things go. If something needs to be “Fixed” you’re the one to call. It’s almost as if your class was designed around being better at “Fixing” things than other classes.

However, you’re pretty sure the VENDING MACHINE isn’t a destructible object in the game. It’s almost as if they’re “Encouraging” you to buy GENCOLA.

> MG: Introduce NEW ADDITIONS to TEAM! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10325998#post10325998)

Domochevsky

2011-02-07, 03:53 PM

> MG: Introduce NEW ADDITIONS to TEAM!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_335.png

Hm? Oh, that’s just CC#003 and CC#004, set up with a GAUSS CANNON and TESLA COIL, respectively. They take up two COMMAND SLOTS each due to being medium sized, but your GAME GUIDES assure you they’re definitely worth it. In fact, most of them agree that this is the optimum setup for your level.

You are confident in your ability to “Fix” any problems that come your way.

> MG: Combine CCs #003 and #004! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10333289#post10333289)

Domochevsky

2011-02-07, 03:55 PM

In related news: averagejoe is now officially in as co-conspirator, having co-conspired the last three updates with me. This should work well for the time being. :smallsmile:

HypoSoc

2011-02-07, 04:01 PM

*baws silently to self...*

averagejoe

2011-02-07, 04:09 PM

In related news: averagejoe is now officially in as co-conspirator, having co-conspired the last three updates with me. This should work well for the time being. :smallsmile:

It's true. Hi guys.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-07, 04:31 PM

MG: BUILD CC#005 capable of wielding the massive sword beside the vending machine.

flabort

2011-02-07, 04:50 PM

CC #005? you're thinking too small. We want to use our Awesome power of "fixing" things to combine CC #003 and CC #004 into CC#007, right now. And we may as well make CC's #005 & #006 while we're at it.
After all, combined CC's have arms and two weapons each. So, it'll keep the gauss cannon and tesla coil, but be on one CC. That way, we'll have mid and long ranged fire in one CC. He'll take up only 3 command slots, being one single large sized CC, which will leave room for more CCs, not to mention it's improved mobility, and lifting power.
Not to mention when you combine two CCs into a Large sized one, they automatically get awesome grenades with various abilities based off of which weapons it was out fitted with when combined. In this case, we'll have a sort of tesla-bomb.

Combine CCs #003 and #004!

Alternatively, we could combine CCs #001 and #003, which would mean they'd have close and mid ranged weapons, and throw electrified saws like Frisbees. However, as CC #001 only takes up 1 command slot, we'd not save any space.

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-07, 06:57 PM

We can’t get rid of CC#001! He’s special!!!

>MG: explain the absence of CC#002

The Dark Fiddler

2011-02-07, 09:50 PM

>MG: Attempt to purchase ZEPHYROUS CHOCOLATE MINT DELIGHT GENCOLA in the hopes of obtaining BANANA-RASBERRY RUMPUS RUMBLE GENCOLA instead.

GreenMuffin

2011-02-07, 11:30 PM

>Fall to your knees and yell "NOOOOOOOO!" dramatically

Domochevsky

2011-02-08, 04:31 PM

> MG: Combine CCs #003 and #004!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_336.png

You grow excited as your mind races through the possibilities. Imagine, your MINIONS becoming a single, gestalt entity stronger than all of them individually, allowing you to break the game as it has never been broken before! The other PLAYERS would cast their trembling eyes upon you, and they will despair even as they comprehend your magnificence, for they will know that none will ever again stand against you! “Help, help,” they’ll cry, and you’ll just laugh as you deliver the single greatest BOXES of their lives!

Sadly, the game won’t let you control large MINIONS at the moment. Oh, well, it’s not like you need über-MINIONS to win.

> MG: Attempt to purchase ZEPHYRUS CHOCOLATE MINT DELIGHT GENCOLA in the hopes of obtaining BANANA-RASBERRY RUMPUS RUMBLE GENCOLA instead. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10333309#post10333309)

Domochevsky

2011-02-08, 04:33 PM

> MG: Attempt to purchase ZEPHYRUS CHOCOLATE MINT DELIGHT GENCOLA in the hopes of obtaining BANANA-RASBERRY RUMPUS RUMBLE GENCOLA instead.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_337.png

Ugh, UNBIDDEN TANGOBERRY SECRET SURPRISE. It’s like GENCORP is involved in some sort of conspiracy against you.

> MG: explain the absence of CC#002 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10333317#post10333317)

Domochevsky

2011-02-08, 04:34 PM

> MG: explain the absence of CC#002

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_338.png

We don’t... we don’t talk about CC#002.

> MG: Recall recent past (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10342382#post10342382)

Jair Barik

2011-02-08, 04:43 PM

>MG: Initiate traumatic flashback sequence of CC#002. Attempt to garner RP XP to further min maxing capabilities and optimise primary munchkinery game progression expediency paradigms.

flabort

2011-02-08, 05:27 PM

>MG: Initiate traumatic flashback sequence of CC#002. Attempt to garner RP XP to further min maxing capabilities and optimise primary munchkinery game progression expediency paradigms.

This. This. This. this. this. this. this. this.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-08, 05:45 PM

MG: Use a SECRET MAINTENANCE CODE for the vending machine that you got from the forums to open it up and take what you want from inside.

HypoSoc

2011-02-08, 06:01 PM

MG: Use a SECRET MAINTENANCE CODE for the vending machine that you got from the forums to open it up and take what you want from inside.

No! That's a planted hack! Don't fall for [MESSAGE REDACTED: Enjoy GENCOLA now in 1,984 delicious flavors.]

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-08, 06:27 PM

If CC#002 is dead, she should have it's HEARTGEAR on her somewhere. she needs it to start her QUEENLY QROWN, which is essential if you want to get the "never forget" achievement, as well as the "gears of the dead" buff.

plus having as small a q/krown as possible just shows how awesome you are for not loosening that many minions.

>MG: Recall recent past

Nidogg

2011-02-09, 12:44 PM

>MG: smash the damn machine, its not as if the contents will dissolve if you smash it, your a mechanic, you have 2 jobs, fixing and smashing! Intiate Smashing Sequence!

Lord_Gareth

2011-02-09, 05:08 PM

>MG: Try to gather information on your enemy by searching forum posts and/or scouting the game world in a thinly-disguised effort to impress your teammates.

Domochevsky: Romance subplot!

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-09, 05:52 PM

Domochevsky: Concurrent Romance and Murder Mystery subplots!

Fixed that for you.

The Dark Fiddler

2011-02-09, 07:30 PM

>MG: Attempt to combine ZEPHYRUS CHOCOLATE MINT DELIGHT GENCOLA and UNBIDDEN TANGOBERRY SECRET SURPRISE in the hopes of obtaining BANANA-RASBERRY RUMPUS RUMBLE GENCOLA.

Domochevsky

2011-02-09, 08:18 PM

> MG: Recall recent past

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_339.png

You remember getting that ZEPHYRUS CHOCOLATE MINT DELIGHT GENCOLA. Your emotions become a confused tangle made of equal parts despair and sadness as the weight of getting a SUBOPTIMAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT presses down on you fully. You shudder and turn away from the memory. It’s too much. The shadows of your past still haunt you, and maybe they always will.

It’s at times like this it helps to be reminded of all the good things you have. Like an outrageously detailed knowledge of the nuances of this game, and the MAD SKILLS to use them. Actually, that makes you feel a lot better. With this in mind, you attempt to recall the past again.

> MG: Initiate traumatic flashback sequence of CC#002. Attempt to garner RP XP to further min maxing capabilities and optimize primary munchkinery game progression expediency paradigms. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10342398#post10342398)

Domochevsky

2011-02-09, 08:20 PM

> MG: Initiate traumatic flashback sequence of CC#002. Attempt to garner RP XP to further min maxing capabilities and optimize primary munchkinery game progression expediency paradigms.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_340.png

Roleplaying XP? You think you remember SM talking about it once when she was trying to talk to you about PEN AND PAPER games. You’re not even sure if this game grants roleplaying XP, and even if it does exist, your GAME GUIDES never bring it up, so it probably isn’t worthwhile. You don’t know what the big deal is about roleplaying anyways. You always feel ridiculous doing it.

It’s like these sidequests. The game tries so hard to get you to care about its people and civilizations. The RAT who made you take this container of WEIRD LIQUID kept yammering about how important it is to do something-or-other with it because of something about how bad stuff was happening to the RATS living here, and meanwhile you’re trying to hurry up and get a QUEST ITEM, any QUEST ITEM really, so they’ll let you ride their trains.

Oddly, none of your GAME GUIDES actually mention this quest, but they do agree that the fastest way through the QUARRY OF BLADES is the UNDERGROUND TRAIN NETWORK. The guides recommend not using the trains so early on, but you need to get to CASTLE BANE as quickly as possible, and this train stops right beneath the bridge that takes you there.

You feel like you were supposed to be remembering something else, but now you can’t remember what that is.

> MG: Recall less-recent past. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10363162#post10363162)

Flickerdart

2011-02-09, 10:29 PM

MG: Remember, remember the FIFTH of NOVEMBER

:smallbiggrin:

flabort

2011-02-10, 12:05 AM

Hedge! :smalltongue:
Walk through door, get Tackle-hugged by CC #002, the least min-maxed CC ever.

Perhaps that's what happened? :smallamused:

Zen Master

2011-02-10, 03:26 AM

> MG: Notice giant sword leaning against dispenser machine. Decide it might be useful to SM - stuff it into CopterBot, and send it to her.

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-10, 09:28 AM

>CC#001: Think about younger brothers

>MG: Recall less-recent past

The Dark Fiddler

2011-02-10, 09:41 PM

>MG: Enough recollection, elaborate on current position.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-11, 06:07 AM

MG: Collect the HUGE FLIPPIN' SWORD, it might be a QUEST ITEM

Cieyrin

2011-02-11, 04:33 PM

MG: Take the awful Vending Machine and smite your enemies with suboptimal fruity Gencolas!

Domochevsky

2011-02-12, 09:04 PM

> MG: Recall less-recent past.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_341.png

You don’t know. That was some WEIRD stuff you saw. Was that supposed to happen? You decide to think about it... later. Yes. Much later.

> MG: Collect the HUGE FLIPPIN' SWORD, it might be a QUEST ITEM. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10363173#post10363173)

Domochevsky

2011-02-12, 09:05 PM

> MG: Collect the HUGE FLIPPIN' SWORD, it might be a QUEST ITEM.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_342.png

You really hope it isn’t a QUEST ITEM. You’re already fed up with this quest business. It’s just people telling you what to do, people who can’t move their own CONTAINERS OF STRANGE LIQUID from one place to another. Well, forget them! You don’t need them, or their stupid QUEST REWARDS! You’ll be just fine on your own!

You take the sword, though. You can give it to SM when you see her. She has this weird obsession with sword-like objects.

> MG: Walk through door, get Tackle-hugged by CC #002, the least min-maxed CC ever. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10363182#post10363182)

Domochevsky

2011-02-12, 09:06 PM

> MG: Walk through door, get Tackle-hugged by CC #002, the least min-maxed CC ever.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_343.png

You fail to get TACKLE-HUGGED. You knew that wasn’t going to happen anyways. It would be impossible for CC#002 to even be there, you know that. So it’s foolish to even expect a TACKLE-HUG in the first place. Right? Right. And all for the better.

Ugh, more rats. You’re seriously tired of those guys.

> CC#001: Recall what happened to CC#002, since MG is little help on that. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10367679#post10367679)

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-12, 09:15 PM

>MG: Talk to the mole rat. At least he isn’t naked.
>MG: Swipe a mining pick or two
>CC's #003, and 4: Do something to express personalities.
>CC#001: scout ahead.

Gamerlord

2011-02-12, 09:31 PM

>MG: YOU IDIOT! MOLE RAT SABOTEUR! KILL IT!
>CCs: HELP!
>MOLE RAT SABOTEUR: DECLARE your INTENTION TO CONQUER THE SURFACE WORLD!

flabort

2011-02-12, 10:59 PM

More, note Mole. Nonetheless...
MG: Converse with RAT.
CCs 3&4: Display personalities
CC 1: Recall what happened to CC 2, since MG is little help on that

licoot

2011-02-13, 11:00 AM

i don't know how i hadn't noticed this 'till now, anyway can anyone tell me what the update schedule is like

Lord_Gareth

2011-02-13, 11:06 AM

MG: Ease painful memories associated with acquiring SUBOPTIMAL EQUIPMENT by engaging in extreme OVERKILL.

Domochevsky

2011-02-13, 11:08 AM

i don't know how i hadn't noticed this 'till now, anyway can anyone tell me what the update schedule is like

We're usually aiming for a "once a day" schedule, if everything goes well. :smallsmile:
(Bigger Updates and Life may alter this occasionally.)

Arbane

2011-02-13, 01:43 PM

> MG: Use in-game GENMAIL feature to send the COLOSSAL CHOPPER to SM.

Domochevsky

2011-02-13, 04:23 PM

> CC#001: Recall what happened to CC#002, since MG is little help on that.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_344.png

Ripshredkill?

> MG: Talk to the mole rat. At least he isn’t naked. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10367692#post10367692)

Domochevsky

2011-02-13, 04:25 PM

> MG: Talk to the mole rat. At least he isn’t naked.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_345.png

Might as well. You don’t have anything better to do until the train arrives at the station.

Chat Log:
MG: hey mole rat
MG: say something worthwile
Mole Rat Miner: Times are tough for us MINERS.
MG: wow this totally wasnt a waste of time
Mole Rat Miner: Times are tough for us MINERS.
MG: yeah i hope that works out for you or something bye
Mole Rat Miner: Us MINERS hope times are !tough.
MG: wat?
Mole Rat Miner: i are <geninclude> !tough times?
MG: is this another glitch? what are you saying
Mole Rat Miner: Times are !tough <genelseif> I <gendisjunct> !I works for us MINERS.
MG: ...im going to go do something else now o_O
Mole Rat Miner: ...bye

> MG: Use in-game GENMAIL feature to send the COLOSSAL CHOPPER to SM. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10367707#post10367707)

Domochevsky

2011-02-13, 04:26 PM

> MG: Use in-game GENMAIL feature to send the COLOSSAL CHOPPER to SM.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_347.png

Right, you decide to think about more important things that surely aren't designed to make you forget about what just happened.

According to your GUIDES you need a working CLASS III MECHANOFORTRESS before you can set up GENMAIL for your team. Anyways, the GUIDES say GENMAIL isn’t even worth it. Well, some of them do. It depends on your strategy, really, and there’s a lot of controversy regarding when it’s appropriate to build one. Naturally you have participated in these discussions as well.

What strategy is your team even using? You’re not sure, but you have everything under control in any case. You're gonna win this game all by yourself, that's how much you have everything under control!

> MG: Check DEPARTURE BOARD (currently offscreen) for time until next train. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10375138#post10375138)

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-13, 04:53 PM

MG: Check DEPARTURE BOARD (currently offscreen) for time until next train.

MG: Panic when you discover that the train should have arrived three hours ago.

Just to throw a small spanner (or possibly a pickaxe) into the works...

licoot

2011-02-13, 05:31 PM

MG: Upgrade fortress already and collect all the sweet loot

MG: Recruit glitched mole rat into adventuring party

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-13, 06:30 PM

>MG: notice glitched tile-thingy on the window-thingy. rotate it 'till it's fixed.

>CC#003 and 4: Do something.

The Dark Fiddler

2011-02-13, 09:26 PM

>MG: With nothing left to do, recall extremely distant past.

SiuiS

2011-02-13, 09:58 PM

Anyone else find it strange how [MESSAGE REDACTED ENJOY GENCOLA!] has become a meme within the boards, but not the comic itself?

What? What's a meme? AARGH!
is anyone else COMPLETELY SATISFIED! with Gencorp. SATISFYING MY EVERY NEED AS A CONSUMER? And the censorship is NON-EXISTENT | ENJOY GENCOLA!

Edit: the heck?!

licoot

2011-02-14, 03:03 PM

>MG: Destroy [WORSHIP] GenCola Machine

>MG: Wonder what just happened

Domochevsky

2011-02-14, 05:21 PM

> MG: Check DEPARTURE BOARD (currently offscreen) for time until next train.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_348.png

Why bother? This train departed awhile ago, and you don’t need to look at any other departures since this next station is the closest one to CASTLE BANE. In fact, you’re pretty sure that this is the last section of FLOODED TUNNELS the train passes through before it reaches the station, so it should only be a few minutes longer.

All this is thanks to the handy MAP you managed to find and download.

> MG: Recruit glitched mole rat into adventuring party. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10375150#post10375150)

Domochevsky

2011-02-14, 05:22 PM

> MG: Recruit glitched mole rat into adventuring party.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_349.png

You can’t really see what possible use that would be. Rats are pretty average fighters to begin with, and this one isn’t even part of the WARRIOR caste, he’s just a MINER. You bet even your DISPENSER would be more use in a fight than he would.

Spending any more time with these rats seems like a pretty bad idea. It won’t do anything but get you bogged down in more POINTLESS SHENANIGANS. No more of that for you! From now on you’re completely goal oriented. You need to get to CASTLE BANE, and nothing will slow you down or distract you! Nothing!

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10375161#post10375161)

Domochevsky

2011-02-14, 05:24 PM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_350.png

No, not even that!

> MG: Open the door and jump. This distraction will likely take far too long. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10383069#post10383069)

licoot

2011-02-14, 05:26 PM

MG: Order army of mole rat miners to do actual quest while you explore mysterious crashing sounds

flabort

2011-02-14, 05:31 PM

give the miner your [Yummy gencola] that was [gifted to such a valued customer as] you!

licoot

2011-02-14, 05:35 PM

give the miner your useless fluid that was forced upon you!

*sits and waits for GenCorp to show up with their editing [REFRESHING BEVERAGES]*

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-14, 05:41 PM

MG: realise that every time you bought Gencola from the vending machine, the cost of a month's subscription to Gengame came out of your bank account.

MG: Attempt to repair derailed train- converting it into a customised HYPER-BATTLE TRAIN capable of storming castle bane.

BRC

2011-02-14, 05:49 PM

flabort

2011-02-14, 06:01 PM

Ratmines... While you are right that they are one of the better resource generators in the game, they require a Class II Mechanofortress. Considering that we have an unliberated Mechanofortress, we can't even build anything that requires a Class I Mechanofortress. And a Cammorat requires a Class IV Mechanofortress.
However, recruiting the Minerat as our Lieutenant would allow us to use Rat/mechanist shenanigans, which are nice even before upgrading our Lieutenant. Should we upgrade the Minerat, I recommend something that goes well with mechanist, such as the Rat-at-at-at-atter. Hobomachinegunner FTW!
Anyways, after recruiting him, we can outfit CC #001 with a Rat-Railgun, and since it's a light long ranged weapon, we can fit it on at the same time as the saw, giving CC #001 some much needed versatility. It's also useful in that it can be used to dry off if you get wet.

BRC

2011-02-14, 06:06 PM

Rat Railgun? No. We'd want to be building Ratling Guns.

Gralamin

2011-02-14, 06:07 PM

Rats arn't that bad. I mean, they arn't much in the way of front liners, but they are one of the better support species in the game. Rat Mines are one of the most reliable ways to get resources in the game.

Offensively, they're not much in the front lines, but you can do some interesting things with them. If you've got water to work with you can build pirats to disrupt you enemy. Plus Rat Buglers are the best early-access thief type unit in the game available without shenanigans (Like Biomancering Cuttlefish and Hawks together). Plus, you can eventually get the Cammorat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camorra).
Of course, few people realize this, because if they pick up a Rat lieutenant it's usually a Sorcerat or Rat King. The Legitimate Buisnessrat is the smart choice for players taking the long view.

I thoroughly disagree with everything you just said. Sure, Rat mines are reliable, but they never give you enough resources to be worth it. It would be far better to find some Delving Dwarfs. Sure, they are possibly one of the least reliable groups, but they have superb front-liners, incredible mines, and may produce artifacts. Thief type units are overrated: The steals are rarely worth it, and the kidnapping abilities are testy at best. I suppose getting a Thief type up to the level they can pull a Caper is pretty good, but it's too long for too little benefit.

BRC

2011-02-14, 06:20 PM

I thoroughly disagree with everything you just said. Sure, Rat mines are reliable, but they never give you enough resources to be worth it. It would be far better to find some Delving Dwarfs. Sure, they are possibly one of the least reliable groups, but they have superb front-liners, incredible mines, and may produce artifacts. Thief type units are overrated: The steals are rarely worth it, and the kidnapping abilities are testy at best. I suppose getting a Thief type up to the level they can pull a Caper is pretty good, but it's too long for too little benefit.
Oh yeah, if you're just picking your allies from the list I'll take Delving Dwarves over Rats. But we have to work with what we're given, and all things considered Rats are not that bad.
As for the use of Thief type units, you've clearly never seen what they can do when you have a Spy in the party. Normally Spies are loners, however if they can lead some other stealth units they can do wonders.
Plus, Steals and Kidnappings arn't the use of thief type units. I mean, sure they can help, but you can do so much more. Spying, bribery, blackmail, assasinations, sabotauge, ect. Once you've gotten a couple Plaugefellas running around, maybe a Sopratno or two...my the fun that can be had.
Plus, Rat's can be used to spread Plague in your opponent's lands while remaining immune themselves.

Edit: If your lieutenant ever becomes a Big Cheese, you've basically won.

tyckspoon

2011-02-14, 08:12 PM

Edit: the heck?!

There is no mind control, go back to your [Gencola.]

Lord_Gareth

2011-02-14, 08:17 PM

MG: There is no KILL like OVERKILL!

GreenMuffin

2011-02-14, 09:44 PM

>MG: Cautiously peek at off screen location. Your not getting distracted. You are just focusing on something else.

The Dark Fiddler

2011-02-14, 09:48 PM

>MG: Open the door and jump. This distraction will likely take far too long.

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-14, 11:00 PM

>MG: Use heat and light of impending explosion to sweat and moan while showing off your curves

... what?

SiuiS

2011-02-14, 11:52 PM

Ya know folks, I've been thinking about BH's predicament, and I realized something. Now, I may not be all that great at the quantum stuff, but the heuristic side is just as important for a game that requires thought forms for control, and well...

Remember Cthonics and Creepers? All sorts of bad stuff went down when it was released, and they took it off the market. The patches are still on every bit of code though, because it's almost impossible to remove something like that from a game thats so darn [GREAT] as Gengame. But after the lawsuits, they had to take the sanity mechanics out of the game. So floating around are small tweaks to handle Eldritch Abominations From Beyond The Veil, with all the downsides cut off!

What was that genre? Insipid Investigator or somesuch? Sure, it sucks for most of the game, but the genre of sleuth who stumbles upon Secrets Man Wasn't Meant To Know would be reall handy right about now, and the best part? Coming to terms with reality being but a mote in the eye of some greater uncaring thing to which we are dust in the wind, so we can combat it's evil malignancy with it's own powers, wouldn't cost us SANITY at all! The EGO hit may be a bit much, but triumphing over an ELDER ABOMINATION or even just a TENTACLED TERROR should put BH back at least as high on the EGO meter as before she delved beyond all sanity or rationality. Maybe higher!

So is it worth taking a hit to the Genre Grid to slingshot our way up into the SUPEREGO range?

BRC

2011-02-15, 12:16 AM

It's the Intrepid Investigator your thinking of, though the name changes to Insipid Investigator if you take too much sanity damage. The main benefit is a high resistance to insanity-inducing effects, which rarely come up anymore.

SiuiS

2011-02-15, 01:33 AM

BRC

2011-02-15, 01:42 AM

I thought it gave you advanced looting capabilities? Funnily shaped ROCKS became sources of MENACING SHADOWS, random books became TOMEs OF FORBIDDEN LORE, etc. Or is that a late-level mechanic? But would it even be useful at high levels when you're already suffering from Seeing Things In The Shadows... Ugh, this is why I stopped playing hard-core after the fourth expansion came out, too much detail that I get garbled. Or was it the fourth patch? ARGH!
No, you can find Shadows and Tomes. Not to mention Signs and Portents, but everybody who encountered Unreality could technically find those. Intrepid Investigators were just much better at it. Usually, looking for those things meant you would take even MORE insanity damage as you encountered the Unreal more and more frequently. The resistance to Insanity Inducing effects was a big draw, because it meant you could actually go seeking Unreal Artifacts without taking so much sanity damage that you were reduced to a gibbering moron.
For about a month after Cthonics and Creepers came out, Intrepid Investigator+Occultist teams dominated the game. The Investigators would find Unreal Artifacts and hand them off to the Occultists. Since the Investigators had taken the Sanity Damage from finding the artifacts, the Occultists could easily soak up the insanity that resulted from using them.

Note: Unreal has a very different meaning than "Fake" or "Nonexistant"

flabort

2011-02-15, 01:26 PM

And how do we propose we get that? Genres are random, incase you forgot, and even if BH does get it, there's the little problem with our glitched genre grid.
However, I do agree that, since Gencorp had to cut away sanity mechanics, Unreal artifacts are a ton more powerful. I'm surprised, though, that Occultist/Spy teams didn't still dominate the game afterwords. [Enjoy Gencola!] and stuff, the only reason I'm aware of that Unreal artifacts aren't still the be-all end-all tool to winning Gengame is that you needed a high sanity damage to reliably find that stuff, and without sanity damage existing anymore, those things are REALLY hard to find.
However, [Enjoy Gencola in three new flavors!], because [Bananabomb Blackout Gencola] still allows you to [Enjoy the sweet, thirst quenching benefits of Gencola] without falling to [ignoring the awesome power of Gencola!]. So, lets cross our fingers and hope, anyways.

BRC

2011-02-15, 01:50 PM

C&C was back when they tried to let your actions determine Genre Grid unlocks. Officially they made it random, but once they were determined by actions, which is why you have all those guides about how to unlock genres out there. People like to think they kept the old system, just stopped telling you about the Unlock conditions.

Either way, the Intrepid Investigator's unlock condition was surviving an encounter with the Unreal while taking no more than mild Sanity damage. They randomized the Genre Grid in the same patch they got rid of Sanity Damage. Since Sanity Damage was gone, so was the purpose of the Intrepid Investigator.
According to [Message Redacted: Enjoy Gencola] rather than remove the Intrepid Investigator entirely, or change it from having an Unlock Condition to being randomized with the others, they simply left the unlock condition the same. Since, theoretically, there was no more Sanity damage, you could never achieve the Unlock Condition, and so it was basically the same effect as removing the Genre altogether.

However, as we all know, Sanity Damage was never entirely gone. Traces of it have been reported here and there. It was a major mechanic, GenCo didn't actually remove it, they just covered it over as best they could.

Apparently, if you do find some, you can meet the Intrepid Investigator's unlock condition and unlock the Genre.

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-15, 03:14 PM

So what, do you think that [Genpark] BH was in had one of those [Amazing rides! fun for the whole family!] in which you can adjust the [volume of your screams as you hurdle down the amazing Genrocket ride] until you unlock [All the candy you desire! CottonGen! corn Gendogs! mini Gennuts! all rich in nutrients and trans fat free!] for [Only the low-low price of twenty genbucks per person! Volunteer at Genlabs and get two weeks free!] ...hmmm... maybe i should [Take your family to Genpark today! try the Gencola flavour of the month FREE!]

Gamerlord

2011-02-15, 04:11 PM

>MG: WONDER if it was such a good idea to take this train route.

Hope MG is not subscribed to, Gengame Standard, which is pathetic, I hear that Gengame Prenium, the world's greatest MMO has much faster trains.

licoot

2011-02-15, 04:11 PM

*Starts rebellion against GenCola [appreciation society]*

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-15, 05:47 PM

Suggests that it might be more fun if people actually left some way of getting at the text they edited for [enjoy Gencola] stuff- because most of us can't be there at the precise time you post it to know what's being covered over (maybe place the unedited text in spoiler tags?)

HypoSoc

2011-02-15, 05:49 PM

Why does everyone hate Gencorp? Its as good company as any.
Seriously, its really annoying how often people are making posts just to have stuff redacted. It makes sense with illegal hacks, but not every post has to be edited.

Domochevsky

2011-02-15, 06:41 PM

You mean there actually was anything before the redaction in some of these posts? That would kinda go against the joke, methinks. :smallwink:

(Alternatively just do it like licoot and strike the redacted stuff out if need be.)

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-15, 07:19 PM

I personally love Gencorp. best/ ONLY megacorporation we have ever had. [...ENJOY GENCOLA!]

BRC

2011-02-15, 07:34 PM

This is in spoilers because it's Out of Character, or whatever.
Concerning the Message Redacted thing. It works in moderation, the occasional bit of post here or there. Stuff where you can figure out the "Uncensored" message through context, and understand why GenCo would want to censor it. If you can't figure out what is being censored through context, then it should be because it's a specific detail that is unimportant.
When used like that, it's a fun little joke that helps make this thread unique.
However, when we get posts that have been fake-censored into meaninglessness, then it just gets annoying.
Don't make a post just so you can redact them. Actually try to contribute to the (Fake) discussion.
That is all.

Domochevsky

2011-02-15, 07:51 PM

> MG: Open the door and jump. This distraction will likely take far too long.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_351.png

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_352.png

You throw open the door and nearly rush into a storage closet. Lousy storage spaces, always getting in your way!

Though, now that you think about it, this train is currently traveling underwater, and you would have drowned yourself and everyone in it if the door had lead outside.

What were you thinking? Jumping out of a moving train sounds like something BH would do; you know better than that.

> MG: Cautiously peek at off screen location. You’re not getting distracted. You are just focusing on something else. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10383075#post10383075)

Domochevsky

2011-02-15, 07:52 PM

> MG: Cautiously peek at off screen location. You’re not getting distracted. You are just focusing on something else.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_353.png

That’s right! You can just look at what’s going on without getting involved. After all, nothing worthwhile happens on the trains. Your GUIDES say so. It’s probably just a random scripted event that’s included for immersive reasons. The GUIDES didn’t mention it because it’s not worth mentioning. Yes, this must be something inconsequential that you will be able to completely ignore.

Hmmm...

The sound appears to have come from the next car. Let’s hope it was some PRETENTIOUS ART breaking.

> MG: There is a BOX. As an adventurer, you are OBLIGED to LOOT it! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10401667#post10401667)

BRC

2011-02-15, 07:56 PM

> Remember how your luck has been recently. What with your Mechanofortress glitching, one of your teammates vanishing into nowhere, those weird bugs showing up, CC#2, ect. With that in mind, prepare yourself for the worst.

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-15, 08:22 PM

I honestly was not aware she was on the train. thought she was waiting for one XD

>MG: Attempt to fix some of those glitches

The Dark Fiddler

2011-02-15, 09:40 PM

>MG: Go IMMERSIFY self in IMMERSION.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-16, 09:07 AM

I honestly was not aware she was on the train. thought she was waiting for one XD

Same here, it looked more like the interior of a station waiting room than a train... (I've never yet come across a train with a vending machine on board)

Though, in retrospect, the art makes a little more sense now that I know what I'm looking at...

licoot

2011-02-16, 01:01 PM

MG: Use mole rat as battering ram and burst dramatically into next cart

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-16, 01:53 PM

MG: Repair a single driving car of the train, looting the rest for scrap- Proceed on to victory.

Arbane

2011-02-16, 03:03 PM

> MG: There is a BOX. As an adventurer, you are OBLIGED to LOOT it!

flabort

2011-02-16, 03:05 PM

> MG: There is a BOX. As an adventurer, you are OBLIGED to LOOT it!

This. Loot the fragile box!

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-16, 03:12 PM

>CC#001: Murder a moleRat

HypoSoc

2011-02-16, 06:38 PM

Anybody else worried about the glits (glitches for the newbs)? I once had a bad case of the glits when I installed a new copy of Brainless Borgs. My Hyborg was completely locked out of the mutant section, and random sections of the map kept deteriorating. I upgraded by Hyborg's eye with Vision Voracious Visibility (Yes I know its a bad upgrade, but I was interested in trying out all features at the time to check for combos and such) and saw a massive doorway behind a glitch. I plasma-blasted the glitch and the door shattered open. Behind it was a glitchy Laviel, which killed my under-leveled Hyborg.

The good news was that during the short fight, I managed to grab a Glitched Laviel Limb (The Description calls it says N0r+g|b). I reported it to Gengame, and they let me keep it after the patch. I moved it to my Main and its my pride and joy.

If, you are wondering, N0r+g|b attacks twice as often as a normal Laviel Limb, and has a Slow effect on hit. It's a bit weaker though.

Oh, back to the point.

MG: Stay Away from Glits and their Over-Leveled Monsters of Glitchyness.

Mewtarthio

2011-02-16, 07:49 PM

Apparently, if you do find some, you can meet the Intrepid Investigator's unlock condition and unlock the Genre.

Actually, it's a bit worse than that. See, right before they dummied out the C&C content, they went through this phase were your actions could still influence the random unlocks (hence those weird superstitions they've still got floating around out there). Thing is, the code directly governing new grid unlocks never changed: They just moved around when it gets called. They still used the same system, they just basically gave every genre an unlock condition of "if a weighted random choice picks this genre." When they went to the fully random system, they just gave every genre (except dummied ones) exactly one unlock point whenever they needed to unlock something new.

Unlock points used to be in the hundreds or so, if you were just incidentally playing in line with that genre. For a genre you were actively trying to unlock, you could easily have a thousand or more points.

You see where this is going. In short, if you follow one of the strategies to take Sanity damage, you will unlock Intrepid Investigator on your next level up. Thanks to some weird bug involving the bonus genre code, you also get two bonus genres next time you would earn one, so it's effectively free.

Actually taking Sanity damage is pretty easy if you know how, incidentally. There are a few worlds where you can still glitch into rooms with dummied out C&C monsters. I can't actually say which ones, of course, since mentioning those locations along with, say, "Sanity" or "C&C" is a great way to bring down those damned "spontaneous praises of our glorious benefactors."

And why would it not be? Everything is a reason to praise our glorious benefactors. What I have posted is quite silly. It is so silly that I will now voluntarily terminate my GenAccount. If you, for some reason, still wish to hear more about my shameful attempts to slander beautiful GenCorp, please send an email to my new account at [email protected].

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-17, 10:39 AM

And why would it not be? Everything is a reason to praise our glorious benefactors. What I have posted is quite silly. It is so silly that I will now voluntarily terminate my GenAccount. If you, for some reason, still wish to hear more about my shameful attempts to slander beautiful GenCorp, please send an email to my new account at [email protected].

I think "Soylent Gencola" is about to get a new flavour.

Gralamin

2011-02-17, 11:16 PM

>MG - Steal the Rat's HARDHAT. It will come in handy for a minion later.

SiuiS

2011-02-18, 12:56 AM

I've been on a train with vending machines. Also, an arcade. It only took tokens and had a broken token machine though.

>MG: head OFFSCREEN LEFT to the ARCADE to enjoy such classic favorites as PACGEN and MRS. PACGEN, or GENTIPEDE. Also, become IRRITATED at random GENSERTIONS into mundane words.

We can throw annoyance after annoyance into her path, go for mD scientist, then deck out the CC's with an Angry Arsenal. I personally want to see a Snark-with-lazerbeams-on-it's-head gun. Ive heard about em but ne'er seen one.

I am also confused as to how sanity does or does not work. I think I should probably go back through all those guides you guys have been linking- I obviously need to up my game plan if I'm going to stop playing single player and shuck the training wheels, as it were.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-18, 08:52 AM

MG: Check Mole Rat for SPECIAL TRAIT

Hopefully we've got one with the Neuratic trait, which would give us a decent combat capability for a minion despite his subpar class. I'm fairly certain the only trait that fits Caddybear is the Bearometer trait, which forces him to be prepared for all situations- especially weather conditions- before they actually come into effect, though we'll know if that's the case just before the weather changes, because his outfit will change into appropriate weather-proofing for the new weather.

On the subject of BH's subpar genre, to be honest the only viable choice to get out of that is a forced reincarnation, which can be achieved by facing off against monsters with high level magic- though it does involve getting lucky with the spells they use on you. The good news is, however, that if BH is hit by a forced reincarnation, there is little or no chance of his character build becoming any worse than it already is because, as they say, when you're at the bottom of a deep pit, the only way to go is up.

As this user put it:

Subpar choices can happen to anyone who doesn't pay scrupulous attention to the guides- in fact they can also happen by paying perfect attention to Message redacted: Buy GenGuides for the definitive solution to all your GenGame problems. The simplest and most likely solution to this problem is a forced reincarnation spell, the most common of which will replace a single choice made by the random mechanics of the game. Please be careful to avoid the higher level forced reincarnation spells as used by such opponents as the Greater Tentacle Summoner, which can change a whole host of variables in a single spell, most often reincarnating the target as an evil Tentacle monster (usually between 9th and 15th level) with an aura that saps the health of the rest of the party and some random NPC's. There may be a few others to avoid, but mention of those is likely to get squelched by the GenMods, so be careful.

*snipped GenCola Advertising Banner*

BRC

2011-02-18, 09:37 AM

Hey, Bearometer would be useful if we make Caddybear a Green Bearet.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-18, 10:09 AM

Hey, Bearometer would be useful if we make Caddybear a Green Bearet.

Yes indeed, especially considering that the motto of the Green Bearet's is "Be Prebeared for anything."

BRC

2011-02-18, 11:47 AM

Yes indeed, especially considering that the motto of the Green Bearet's is "Be Prebeared for anything."
Hrmm, say, who here is familiar with the Legendary Lieutenants from Heroes and Harlequins. The only guides I can find about them are either deleted or Gensored (Get it, Gen+Censored) into meaninglessness.
Aanyway, once I was part of a Madcrafter-Biomancer-Machinist team (This was right after Dr Wutson published his Minion Combo guide). This should give you an idea of the types of minions we were throwing out there.
We had one two games with the same tricks. In the third game however our troops got torn apart by a Legendary Lieutenant that combined the traits of both Green Bearets and Bearserkers. You've probably heard similar stories. Legendary Lieutenants are famously hard to get, but devastating if you can pull them off.
I think we might want to try to pull that off. I think we can create
Rambear.

Domochevsky

2011-02-18, 03:38 PM

> MG: There is a BOX. As an adventurer, you are OBLIGED to LOOT it!

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_354.png

What? No! You mean... no.

You’re not an ADVENTURESS, you’re a GAMING GODDESS. In fact, you’d go so far as to declare yourself a MECHA GODDESS. You certainly don’t see the need to waste your time scrounging around for every scrap that might be a little bit useful in the future. Not when you have your CONFIDENCE and MAD SKILLS at your disposal.

> MG: Go IMMERSIFY self in IMMERSION. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10401672#post10401672)

Domochevsky

2011-02-18, 03:40 PM

> MG: Go IMMERSIFY self in IMMERSION.

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_355.png

You don't care about anything other than WINNING, but you decide to get away from... you mean IMMERSIFY yourself anyway. For NO REASON AT ALL.

> ==> (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10401678#post10401678)

Domochevsky

2011-02-18, 03:41 PM

> ==>

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/GenGame/GenGame_356.png

Hmm... Nothing interesting here. Maybe the IMMERSION is in the next car. You hope you recognize it when you see it.

> MG: Take the dead rat's hat and wear it. It's the coolest hat you've ever seen. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10407984#post10407984)

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-18, 03:54 PM

>MG: Move along! Nothing to see here!

BRC

2011-02-18, 03:59 PM

> A CRIME! Investigate to kill time until the train reaches Castle Bane and gain additional EXPERIENCE.

licoot

2011-02-18, 04:15 PM

MG: Dip finger in mysterious red substance then lick it...

...YUCK

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-18, 06:20 PM

MG: Pay just enough attention to your surroundings not to step in something unmentionable, and then regret paying it even that much attention later, as you step past into the next car.

Obviously the rat on the floor committed Sewer-cide, case closed because MG has better things to be doing than opening it.

GreenMuffin

2011-02-18, 08:47 PM

>Take the dead rat's hat and wear it. It's the coolest hat you've ever seen.

flabort

2011-02-18, 08:47 PM

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-18, 09:00 PM

Why bother? Why not just skip the regret, and walk through whatever's on the floor, as you step into the next car.

Because if we do that we get a different regret- in this case:

MG: Regret having to cleanse your footwear of the blood, etc. you just walked through.

Draconi Redfir

2011-02-18, 09:19 PM

>MG: Is that free Genwine? Take some!

HypoSoc

2011-02-18, 10:16 PM

Obviously the rat on the floor committed Sewer-cide, case closed because MG has better things to be doing than opening it.

Sewer-cide events never happen on a train, something in the coding doesn't allow it (so I've heard). I believe it's the Murderous Mole event.

>MG: Ready Self for Boss Fight with Murderous Mole by checking Game Guides for the best Anti-Rodent Optimization.

I don't know which guides MG is using, but most of the ones I read (i.e. DrWutson) say to temp maximize Speed and Accuracy to manage to hit the Mole's extremely high Evasion, or to maximize Group Cohesion for Trapping and Flanking bonus, should you have Cohorts. I am not familiar with the Mechanic class as her GUide Writer would be, so I'd suggest quickly checking the index of the Murderous Mole Boss.

Gamerlord

2011-02-18, 10:30 PM

Sewer-cide events never happen on a train, something in the coding doesn't allow it (so I've heard). I believe it's the Murderous Mole event.

>MG: Ready Self for Boss Fight with Murderous Mole by checking Game Guides for the best Anti-Rodent Optimization.

I don't know which guides MG is using, but most of the ones I read (i.e. DrWutson) say to temp maximize Speed and Accuracy to manage to hit the Mole's extremely high Evasion, or to maximize Group Cohesion for Trapping and Flanking bonus, should you have Cohorts. I am not familiar with the Mechanic class as her GUide Writer would be, so I'd suggest quickly checking the index of the Murderous Mole Boss.

She also needs to make sure she has a high enough evasion when he uses his "Why don't you just shoot her" attack.

>MG: FIGHT!

Flickerdart

2011-02-19, 12:47 AM

That glass still has some delicious GenWine left!

>MG: Drink the GENWINE

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-19, 07:04 AM

That glass still has some delicious GenWine left!

>MG: Drink the GENWINE

How crazy are you, we may have a fight on our hands, and you want to give MG the "Slight Tipsiness" debuff before it even begins? And that's assuming its not a glass of poisoned wine. I remember this one custom module that somebody tricked out as a murder-mystery game, where it turned out the victim had been murdered sixteen different ways despite not having drank the poisoned wine or grabbed the exposed electric cables, it took a bit of work to determine which way the victim was actually killed, and who actually did the deed.

ShinyCap

2011-02-19, 10:30 AM

MG: Dip finger in mysterious red substance then lick it...

...YUCK

I think you mean >MG: Dip finger in mysterious red substance and lick it...

...BLUH!

Edit: Also, >IMMERSIFY self in MYSTERY.

BRC

2011-02-19, 10:43 AM

Personally, I think we've stumbled across the Murder on the Ore-Rat Express quest, I remember the rewards from it are pretty nice.

Gamerlord

2011-02-19, 10:59 AM

Personally, I think we've stumbled across the Murder on the Ore-Rat Express quest, I remember the rewards from it are pretty nice.

Only if you take the MWHAHAHA I IZ TEH EVILUZ option, any other has a junk reward.

BRC

2011-02-19, 11:05 AM

Only if you take the MWHAHAHA I IZ TEH EVILUZ option, any other has a junk reward.
Well, letting the murderers get away isn't THAT evil. The guy had it coming after all.

Gamerlord

2011-02-19, 11:32 AM

Well, letting the murderers get away isn't THAT evil. The guy had it coming after all.

What? That is the GREED option, the one I am talking about is setting the train on fire, then smashing it into the mole town, stealing their sacred AMULET OF LIMITLESS WEALTH while you are at it. Didn't you try that?

BRC

2011-02-19, 11:35 AM

tyckspoon

2011-02-19, 11:42 AM

What? That is the GREED option, the one I am talking about is setting the train on fire, then smashing it into the mole town, stealing their sacred AMULET OF LIMITLESS WEALTH while you are at it. Didn't you try that?

Oh, you mean the old CASH COLLAR exploit. That's only really worth doing if you have at least 1 MERCHANT-type player on your team, since they're the only classes that can really efficiently convert your money advantage into real game advantage. And you have to, because after you do that to the moles your Reputation with all of the minion factions is completely shot; it becomes near-impossible to recruit any of them and they absolutely refuse to sell you anything. MG would have to scrap down all her CCs and spend all her resources on VENDBOTs to do anything useful with the COLLAR.

Gamerlord

2011-02-19, 11:49 AM

Oh, you mean the old CASH COLLAR exploit. That's only really worth doing if you have at least 1 MERCHANT-type player on your team, since they're the only classes that can really efficiently convert your money advantage into real game advantage. And you have to, because after you do that to the moles your Reputation with all of the minion factions is completely shot; it becomes near-impossible to recruit any of them and they absolutely refuse to sell you anything. MG would have to scrap down all her CCs and spend all her resources on VENDBOTs to do anything useful with the COLLAR.

But you also gain MECHA MOLES if you have someone like MG in the party when you do it. Which are one of the best early-game units IIRC. And they always remain FANATICAL in reputation with you. So you can just conquer the other minion factions.

tyckspoon

2011-02-19, 12:25 PM

But you also gain MECHA MOLES if you have someone like MG in the party when you do it. Which are one of the best early-game units IIRC. And they always remain FANATICAL in reputation with you. So you can just conquer the other minion factions.

Normally, yes, but don't forget why MG's trying to pull off doing a solo raid on Castle Bane to start with- no Mechanofortress. You need yours operational for any kind of MECHA Minion you aren't hand-building.

Mercenary Pen

2011-02-19, 12:56 PM

Actually, I was just looking back over an obscure walkthrough that I hadn't read in a while (because who doesn't restart an adventure with Rats and Toads, with the central location filled with Badgers- we're not after wind in the willows here), and I think I've identified the murderous mole here. May I introduce you all to PROFESSOR MOLIARTY.

Having identified the perpetrator as MOLIARTY, my guide tells me that he's a dab hand at getting out of locked room (or indeed train deep underwater) scenarios, with at least a dozen known escape mechanics to his name- and when he engages in combat, expect hit and run tactics that will wear you down whilst playing to his every advantage- because he can't actually take damage in a skirmish of half a minute or less due to his SHORT-TERM DODGE ability.

My guide doesn't say anything about recruiting him, and I haven't found any other guides that reference MOLIARTY at all, but he'd surely be an asset to MG if he is at all recruitable...