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shawnhcorey
2010-12-15, 06:54 PM
This thread is for those who love Inkscape and those who want to learn to use it.

Inkscape (http://inkscape.org/) is an open source drawing tool that uses the World Wide Web Consortium's (W3C) (http://www.w3.org/) Scalable Vector Graphics format (SVG) (http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/). Some supported SVG features include basic shapes, paths, text, markers, clones, alpha blending, transforms, gradients, and grouping. In addition, Inkscape supports Creative Commons' metadata, node-editing, layers, complex path operations, text-on-path, text-in-shape, and SVG XML editing. It also imports several formats like EPS, PostScript, JPEG, PNG, BMP, and TIFF and exports PNG as well as multiple vector-based formats. It has a number of filters and extensions for special effects.

What This Isn't

What this isn't is a place to ask technical questions. You're better off asking the people who actually work on Inkscape. Here are the links for their:


forums (http://inkscapeforum.com/)
mailing lists (http://inkscape.org/mailing_lists.php)
wiki (http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Inkscape)


What This Is

This is the place for discussing tips, tricks, and techniques for Inkscape. Like: how do I create an Order-of-the-Stick avatar (http://www.trazoi.net/tutorials/inkscape/oots/)?

Downloads

You can download Inkscape (http://inkscape.org/download/) directly from the website. The instructions on how to install it on your system are on the download page.

Documentation

Inkscape comes with its own tutorial. Just click on Help -> Tutorials and choose the one you want.

Here are the manuals for Inkscape:


FLOSS Manuals Inkscape (http://en.flossmanuals.net/Inkscape/)
Inkscape: Guide to a Vector Drawing Program (http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/)

Dr.Epic
2010-12-15, 06:56 PM
Meh, I got photoshop (elements:smallannoyed:). Sure it's not free, but I got it and a tablet for less than $100 bucks.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-15, 07:00 PM
Photoshop is a raster-image editor. Illustrator is vector based like Inkscape. They're not quite the same thing. Vector drawings can be render at any resolution. For example, a drawing on your monitor is about 100 dpi. With vectors, you can print it on a laser printer at about 2400 dpi without it looking pixelated.

Cealocanth
2010-12-15, 07:02 PM
Well I use inkscape, and love it! I have never been skilled on drawing with the mouse, but Inkscape lets you drag shapes how you need them. With Inkscape, I can make avatars to my standards.

Mauve Shirt
2010-12-15, 07:12 PM
I love Inkscape. It's quite an addicting program once you get the hang of it. :smallbiggrin:

TechnoScrabble
2010-12-15, 07:14 PM
Well, I'm downloading it now (it gets to the end and then won't progress any further...maybe it's just my conncection...) and hope to be even better at it than mister saturn!

Elder Tsofu
2010-12-15, 07:15 PM
It is certainly a priceless piece of program.

@^ That's the spirit.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-15, 07:32 PM
I have used David Shaw's Learning Inkscape - An Order of the Stick Avatar Guide (http://www.trazoi.net/tutorials/inkscape/oots/) to create two figures, a male and female avatar. You can download them and add some clothes. :)


http://sites.google.com/site/shawnhcorey/oots/_female.svg
http://sites.google.com/site/shawnhcorey/oots/_male.svg


Please note that these files start with an underscore. I do this to remind myself not to change them; they are templates to be copied and renamed before editing them.

Also, if you have an older version of IE, you will not be able to seen them. Just download them and open them with Inkscape.

Fri
2010-12-15, 07:36 PM
Meh, I got photoshop (elements:smallannoyed:). Sure it's not free, but I got it and a tablet for less than $100 bucks.

Different kind of program, Dr. The program to compare with inkscape are things like adobe ilustrator or corel draw.

Derjuin
2010-12-15, 07:39 PM
I do love Inkscape :smalltongue: once I get started on something I'll sometimes sit there for hours making stuff! Though, I usually have to have inspiration beforehand; I can't just open it up and *bam* there's a beautiful piece of vector.

TechnoScrabble
2010-12-15, 07:41 PM
I don't understand this tutorial at all so I'm just going to play around until I do something right.

Dr.Epic
2010-12-15, 07:46 PM
Different kind of program, Dr. The program to compare with inkscape are things like adobe ilustrator or corel draw.

Yeah I know, but it fits all my artistic needs.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-15, 07:47 PM
I don't understand this tutorial at all so I'm just going to play around until I do something right.

There are some simpler tutorials under the help menu. They are written in SVG, so you can make changes directly on them. Just don't save them or they will be permanently change. Well, not really, you can always download another copy. :smallsmile: It' best if you copy and paste the items into a blank page.

Mr_Saturn
2010-12-15, 08:55 PM
Well, I'm downloading it now (it gets to the end and then won't progress any further...maybe it's just my conncection...) and hope to be even better at it than mister saturn!

Wait... What??

I feel like avataring now. :smallbiggrin:

Ranger Mattos
2010-12-15, 08:56 PM
I love Inkscape. It's quite an addicting program once you get the hang of it. :smallbiggrin:

Yes it is. I make all my avatars on it, including my current Christmas one.

Cealocanth
2010-12-15, 09:05 PM
Wait... What??

I feel like avataring now. :smallbiggrin:

Why do I get the feeling this is all part of TechnoScrabble's plan...

Gulaghar
2010-12-15, 09:21 PM
Why do I get the feeling this is all part of TechnoScrabble's plan...

Well he is an evil mastermind something.:smallwink:

TechnoScrabble
2010-12-15, 09:38 PM
Me? Having a master plan? Nooooooo!

Mr_Saturn
2010-12-15, 09:53 PM
I suppose you're the one who was responsible for my inkscape crashing just now. You wish to crush my spirit don't you! :smalltongue:

Ranger Mattos
2010-12-15, 09:54 PM
Well he is a (literal) computer wizard. Of course he crashed it.

Savannah
2010-12-15, 10:08 PM
I have *counts* 5 art programs that I use with varying frequency. Inkscape took me a little while to get used to, but I use it a lot now (only for avatars and the beginnings of a comic, though).

Kris on a Stick
2010-12-15, 10:26 PM
Blarg... Inkscape...
Paint.NET is good enough, and always has been good enough for me!
...
*shudders*
So... many... numbers... :smalleek::smallyuk:

shawnhcorey
2010-12-15, 10:35 PM
Try this one:

Open a new drawing
Select the Bezier curve tool
Draw a 6 segment line by clicking on the page, move the pointer and click again until there are 6 segments
Press SHIFT+CTRL+7
Select Gears from the drop down menu
Click on Add
Click on the Edit path by nodes tool
Select the first node you drew and move it around the second

Darklord Bright
2010-12-15, 10:46 PM
I myself use Inkscape, and have done since maybe early 2009 or so.

I've departed from the OotS style long ago, favouring this:

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/9179/aurianascythe.png
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/51/rinny.png
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/898/katetherenegade.png

And a bit of something which I drew up instead of making into a template:

(Biggish, so linked) (http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7883/tttcolour.png)

Edit: And yes, though I have dodged such questions before, I may now be willing to divulge secrets if you have specific questions.

Gulaghar
2010-12-15, 11:08 PM
Try this one:

Open a new drawing
Select the Bezier curve tool
Draw a 6 segment line by clicking on the page, move the pointer and click again until there are 6 segments
Press SHIFT+CTRL+7
Select Gears from the drop down menu
Click on Add
Click on the Edit path by nodes tool
Select the first node you drew and move it around the second


My way is better.

- Make square
- Change object to path.
- Create anything.

:smallcool:

Darklord Bright
2010-12-15, 11:09 PM
I cut out the middle man and and just draw the shape I want with the pen tool, adjusting anything I feel like after I'm done :smalltongue:.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-15, 11:11 PM
My way is better.

- Make square
- Change object to path.
- Create anything.

:smallcool:

But did you try it? Go on, see what happens.

Gulaghar
2010-12-15, 11:19 PM
But did you try it? Go on, see what happens.

Huh, cool.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-15, 11:22 PM
Huh, cool.

Neat, eh? That's called a Live Path Effect. It's in Tavmjong Bah' manual here (http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-LivePathEffects.html).

Gulaghar
2010-12-15, 11:27 PM
Neat, eh? That's called a Live Path Effect. It's in Tavmjong Bah' manual here (http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-LivePathEffects.html).

Tis. Complicated looking guide though >.<

I'll just stick with OotS avis.

Darklord Bright
2010-12-16, 12:02 AM
I don't use guides myself because they always seem to overcomplicate everything...

Ninjaman
2010-12-16, 01:16 AM
Inkscape for the win:smallbiggrin:

shawnhcorey
2010-12-16, 09:21 AM
I don't use guides myself because they always seem to overcomplicate everything...

Yeah, guides, as well as grids, are more useful when drawing something technical, like a building. For more organic drawings, you can ignore them.

PersonalSavior
2010-12-16, 12:40 PM
Try this one:
Press SHIFT+CTRL+7


What if you gave the not-shortcut to do it? Cause it doesn't seem to work for me. And I'm too lazy to search by myself :smallamused:

shawnhcorey
2010-12-16, 01:51 PM
What if you gave the not-shortcut to do it? Cause it doesn't seem to work for me. And I'm too lazy to search by myself :smallamused:

First, are you doing right? That's Shift plus Ctrl plus the number 7, not F7.

Second, I scan the menus and the documentation but I couldn't find how to invoke it from them.

Third, I send a query to the Inkscape users' mailing list and I'll let you know when they get back to me. :smallsmile:

licoot
2010-12-16, 02:33 PM
I've always loved inkscape, but after you use it for a while, it does seem to get a bit... limited. Although I don't plan to buy a better program, and think its awesome for being free

TechnoScrabble
2010-12-16, 02:48 PM
This thing is confusing as all heck.
I'm starting to get a hang of it, but the tutorials are a little dated.

Dvandemon
2010-12-16, 02:51 PM
I just love Inkscape :smallbiggrin:, I have three other programs (GIMP and Paint.net) and plan on using them in a super awesome combinatorial explosion!!


...


I hope to be better than Mr. Saturn as well...and Crimson Angel..and Crimmy...yldenfrei


Just everyone better than me at art

Gulaghar
2010-12-16, 02:53 PM
This thing is confusing as all heck.
I'm starting to get a hang of it, but the tutorials are a little dated.

If you want to make oots avatars then this is a really good guide.


I have used David Shaw's Learning Inkscape - An Order of the Stick Avatar Guide (http://www.trazoi.net/tutorials/inkscape/oots/) to create two figures, a male and female avatar. You can download them and add some clothes. :)

licoot
2010-12-16, 03:03 PM
This thing is confusing as all heck.
I'm starting to get a hang of it, but the tutorials are a little dated.

With what you said about the avatar guide, i found just following it step for step really helped when i started

Ninjaman
2010-12-16, 03:26 PM
With what you said about the avatar guide, i found just following it step for step really helped when i started

Yea i did too, it was really helpfull.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-16, 03:36 PM
This thing is confusing as all heck.
I'm starting to get a hang of it, but the tutorials are a little dated.

Yes, they are. Don't forget that the latest stable version is 0.48. They haven't release version 1.00 yet.


I just love Inkscape :smallbiggrin:, I have three other programs (GIMP and Paint.net) and plan on using them in a super awesome combinatorial explosion!!

Have you tried MyPaint (http://mypaint.intilinux.com/)? It's not a vector application but is simulates real-life artistic tools, paint, charcoal, ink, pencil. It is also free.

licoot
2010-12-16, 04:02 PM
Open Canvas is quite good, and version 1.1 is free, but its not vector based

CrimsonAngel
2010-12-16, 04:07 PM
I love Inkscape. I be pro at it, dawg.

Darklord Bright
2010-12-16, 04:32 PM
My way of doing things is probably incredibly inefficient, but gets good results without fiddling as much in menus - since I don't tend to use layers. I've just always found them to be more trouble than they're worth unless I'm working with Raster images.

Gulaghar
2010-12-16, 05:09 PM
My way of doing things is probably incredibly inefficient, but gets good results without fiddling as much in menus - since I don't tend to use layers. I've just always found them to be more trouble than they're worth unless I'm working with Raster images.

Agree with you there. I only use layers to separate the avis that are on the same file.

Elder Tsofu
2010-12-16, 05:21 PM
Layers are very good to use if you're making something with background, middle and foreground on a low-end computer. Then you can just "hide" the layers you're not working in at the moment and avoid the otherwise inevitable "computer works like the signals were transferred through cheese" syndrome.

PersonalSavior
2010-12-16, 06:18 PM
First, are you doing right? That's Shift plus Ctrl plus the number 7, not F7.

AH! do you think I cannot read correctly? Eeer, now wait a minute. :smalleek: If someone's looking for me, I'll be burying myself outside.

So it's in "path/paths effects editor"

shawnhcorey
2010-12-16, 06:28 PM
AH! do you think I cannot read correctly? Eeer, now wait a minute. :smalleek: If someone's looking for me, I'll be burying myself outside.

So it's in "path/paths effects editor"

Oh good, you found it. I got a reply from the Inkscape users' list and they say the same thing, so you must be correct. :smallwink:

Path -> Path Effects Editor It's third from the bottom on the Path menu.

Gulaghar
2010-12-16, 08:08 PM
Layers are very good to use if you're making something with background, middle and foreground on a low-end computer. Then you can just "hide" the layers you're not working in at the moment and avoid the otherwise inevitable "computer works like the signals were transferred through cheese" syndrome.

Low end computer? Not something I have to worry about.

Ooh it's glowing blue

shawnhcorey
2010-12-16, 10:12 PM
Low end computer? Not something I have to worry about.

Ooh it's glowing blue

As long as it's not blue smoke. All electronics run on blue smoke. If you ever see blue smoke coming out the back, you know it won't work anymore; all the blue smoke has escaped. :smallbiggrin:

TechnoScrabble
2010-12-17, 02:55 PM
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to do nodes and pathways and remove only certain parts of a shape like shawnhcorey did to make his wizard beard.

Savannah
2010-12-17, 03:08 PM
What do you mean by "remove only certain parts of a shape"?

(Personally, I found the guide to making OotS avatars much more useful for learning inkscape than any of the inkscape manuals. I'm not sure if either of those are what you're looking at, though.)

shawnhcorey
2010-12-17, 03:48 PM
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to do nodes and pathways and remove only certain parts of a shape like shawnhcorey did to make his wizard beard.

That's cause I cheated. I drew half the beard with the Bezier-curve tool. Duplicated Ctrl+D, flip it Object -> Flip Horizontal, moved it sideways and joined it to the other half with Path -> Union.

If you want to take away parts of a path, you have to add more nodes to go around the hole.