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aart lover
2010-12-22, 02:39 PM
if you're an otaku like me then you often wonder what your favorite anime character would look like OoTS style. so that's just what i did:smallbiggrin:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_H8XOnZC7feI/TRJSBjAWMrI/AAAAAAAAT28/pehhXmvd9iI/s400/fullmetal%20alchemist.jpg

Maximum Zersk
2010-12-22, 06:22 PM
Interesting, buuuuut....

First of all the art is quite messy. It sorta looks like you used Paint for this. Have you heard of Inkscape? It's pretty good for making stick figures, being a vector-based drawing program. You can find it here (http://inkscape.org/). You can find a tutorial for making stick figures here (http://www.trazoi.net/tutorials/inkscape/oots/).

Ed looks okay, but the body seems a bit too wide, and the hair is quite messy. Pretty clever to colour his arm and leg silvery to look like metal, but that makes it hard to see. Maybe you should try making it a bit darker. His clothing looks a bit simplistic. Looking here (http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn176/sora_uchiha_sasuke_lover/sugg-edward-elric-1.jpg), he seems to have a weird poncho-looking thing that he wears over his regular clothes. Remember that. Also, it seems as if the ponytail is coming out of the top of his head. Might wanna fix that.

Alphonse is... well, he could be better. Still, he's pretty hard to do in stick-figure style. His head is round on the top and you forgot his loincloth.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-22, 08:28 PM
It looks like you're trying to draw with a mouse. This is very hard to do. I suggest you get a graphics tablet (http://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Graphics_tablet), if you can afford one. I don't do much drawing but when I do, I use a finger-controlled trackball, an older version of this one (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/4680). If you do get a trackball, make sure it's finger controlled. Thumb-controlled ones are a pain to use; they're the ones with ball on the side. Get one that can be use by your fingers.

aart lover
2010-12-22, 09:12 PM
Interesting, buuuuut....

First of all the art is quite messy. It sorta looks like you used Paint for this. Have you heard of Inkscape? It's pretty good for making stick figures, being a vector-based drawing program. You can find it here (http://inkscape.org/). You can find a tutorial for making stick figures here (http://www.trazoi.net/tutorials/inkscape/oots/).

Ed looks okay, but the body seems a bit too wide, and the hair is quite messy. Pretty clever to colour his arm and leg silvery to look like metal, but that makes it hard to see. Maybe you should try making it a bit darker. His clothing looks a bit simplistic. Looking here (http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn176/sora_uchiha_sasuke_lover/sugg-edward-elric-1.jpg), he seems to have a weird poncho-looking thing that he wears over his regular clothes. Remember that. Also, it seems as if the ponytail is coming out of the top of his head. Might wanna fix that.

Alphonse is... well, he could be better. Still, he's pretty hard to do in stick-figure style. His head is round on the top and you forgot his loincloth.

well thanks for the constructive criticism. unfortunately i'm severely limited to Microsoft Paint because the old dinosaur PC i'm using is too old and slow to handle any more downloads or new data on it's hard drive. it really sucks! yeah i've heard of inkscape but can't get it because of said reason.

Domochevsky
2010-12-22, 09:24 PM
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I suggest you get a graphics tablet (http://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Graphics_tablet), if you can afford one. I don't do much drawing but when I do, I use a finger-controlled trackball, an older version of this one (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/4680). ...

Pff, if you go trackball, go pro (http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html). :smallamused:
(It's surprisingly difficult to find trackballs with a scrollwheel.)

Dr.Epic
2010-12-23, 03:39 PM
First of all the art is quite messy. It sorta looks like you used Paint for this. Have you heard of Inkscape? It's pretty good for making stick figures, being a vector-based drawing program. You can find it here (http://inkscape.org/). You can find a tutorial for making stick figures here (http://www.trazoi.net/tutorials/inkscape/oots/).

Yeah, that's my major complaint too. The artwork needs to be cleaned up. Aside from that, get more detailed. Al's armor has a rather distinct look and Ed has several layers of clothing that you could show even in stick figure form.

Trixie
2010-12-23, 04:13 PM
I don't do much drawing but when I do, I use a finger-controlled trackball, an older version of this one (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/4680). If you do get a trackball, make sure it's finger controlled. Thumb-controlled ones are a pain to use; they're the ones with ball on the side. Get one that can be use by your fingers.

Painting with trackball? How does that work? :smallconfused:

shawnhcorey
2010-12-23, 04:30 PM
Painting with trackball? How does that work? :smallconfused:

I use Inkscape, a vector program. I draw a rough outline of an object and then I zoom in and tweak the outline to the shape I want. When the drawing is done, I render it in a raster format, like PNG.

Trixie
2010-12-23, 04:51 PM
I use Inkscape, a vector program. I draw a rough outline of an object and then I zoom in and tweak the outline to the shape I want. When the drawing is done, I render it in a raster format, like PNG.

I do the same thing, at the mere idea of doing that with trackball instead of a mouse fills me with dread.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-23, 06:45 PM
I do the same thing, at the mere idea of doing that with trackball instead of a mouse fills me with dread.

Actually, I find my trackball is better than a mouse for all my applications. The thing is to get a finger-controlled trackball. Your fingers are more dexterous than your thumb and a thumb-controlled trackball is harder to use than a mouse. The difference between them is that a thumb-controlled trackball has the ball on the side, the finger-controlled one has it near the top, where your fingers are.

Of course, if money was no object, I would get one of these (http://www.wacom.com/index2.php). :smallbiggrin:

Trixie
2010-12-23, 06:54 PM
Actually, I find my trackball is better than a mouse for all my applications. The thing is to get a finger-controlled trackball. Your fingers are more dexterous than your thumb and a thumb-controlled trackball is harder to use than a mouse. The difference between them is that a thumb-controlled trackball has the ball on the side, the finger-controlled one has it near the top, where your fingers are.

And? That's how I lead my mouse, holding it in three fingers. I tried touchpads and trackballs, but their range is so small the picture would have to be stamp-sized.


Of course, if money was no object, I would get one of these (http://www.wacom.com/index2.php). :smallbiggrin:

I have one of them, and for vector graphics, mouse beats them in most cases.

Of course, I might be biased as I could only afford second smallest a few years back when I got mine.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-23, 07:12 PM
And? That's how I lead my mouse, holding it in three fingers. I tried touchpads and trackballs, but their range is so small the picture would have to be stamp-sized.

I find that strange. Using all four fingers, I can zip the pointer from side to side of my monitor. I need this in Inkscape. The controls for it appear on both sides of the window and the menus along the top. I spend as much time getting the pointer over to the right control as I do drawing. Maybe the next version with have better layout. I can only hope.

Trixie
2010-12-23, 07:23 PM
I find that strange. Using all four fingers, I can zip the pointer from side to side of my monitor.

Maybe that's the problem. I just can't find multiple fingers accurate at all, especially when I can hit any needed icon with mouse with ease almost not moving my hand.


I need this in Inkscape. The controls for it appear on both sides of the window and the menus along the top. I spend as much time getting the pointer over to the right control as I do drawing. Maybe the next version with have better layout.

I don't use inkscape, so I don't know.


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On the side - man, I'm looking at these new tablets, and they're sexy. My poor, old one from discontinued (apparently) line isn't half as cool, and capable of only drawing. Ech, I'd have to have another look at them.

Trazoi
2010-12-23, 07:25 PM
Of course, if money was no object, I would get one of these (http://www.wacom.com/index2.php). :smallbiggrin:
The Bamboo models aren't that expensive (at least as computer parts are concerned) and are better for freeform drawing than just a mouse. Probably a trackball too, but I've never used one for drawing. I started with an old tiny Graphire tablet and moved up to an Intuos (with education discount they're a fair bit cheaper). I decided it was better to hold back on general computer upgrades for a year or two and buy better peripherals; it was a wise decision. :smallsmile:

I still suck at drawing, but at least I'm quicker at it.

shawnhcorey
2010-12-23, 07:48 PM
I still suck at drawing, but at least I'm quicker at it.

Most of the courses I took on drawing were technical drawing courses. I'm really good at mechanical things like buildings, bridges, anything made. My attempts at more organic forms like people, trees, animals, leave something to be desired. That's why I like drawing OotS avatars; they're somewhere in between. :smallsmile:

Dvandemon
2010-12-23, 08:31 PM
They made me laugh, sorry, and They could use some more work (I might try this later on). Honestly, it's decent for a first try. Did you use any reference pictures?

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I once had to use a thumb-trackball and once I got used to the weird position, I found it much more maneuverable than a regular mouse.

Can we please get back on topic?

Dvandemon
2010-12-25, 05:45 PM
I just remembered! Have you ever seen the Colonel Mustang avatar? It was a while back...

KillItWithFire
2010-12-27, 12:11 AM
Thought I'd post this since it's related.
My friend, known on the forums as Elven Alchemist requested a FMA style avatar from me and I just finished it. Heres what I got.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb471/magicman5897/OotSAvatars/ElvenAlchemist.png

yay my first avatar
Comments?

aart lover
2010-12-27, 02:12 PM
Thought I'd post this since it's related.
My friend, known on the forums as Elven Alchemist requested a FMA style avatar from me and I just finished it. Heres what I got.
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb471/magicman5897/OotSAvatars/ElvenAlchemist.png

yay my first avatar
Comments?

nice. waaaay better than mine!

KillItWithFire
2010-12-27, 04:08 PM
nice. waaaay better than mine!

Thanks, took me maybe, hour and a half - 2hours. Somewhere in that time frame. I used Inkscape to make it and I used a tutorial found here (http://www.trazoi.net/tutorials/inkscape/oots/index.html).
I sugguest that you give it a go too and best of luck to you.

EDIT: ah sorry, didn't realize you couldn't do Inkscape. Well with practice I'm sure you can still make some nice art on Paint. It looks pencil/mouse drawn. (particularly Ed's face) Is there any way you could neaten up the shapes a little?