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Giovedi
2011-04-02, 07:38 PM
All right!

After someone by the name of Somfunambulist started one of these (http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?37582-Round-Robin-Comic-Everyone-is-Welcome!) on the MSPA forums, I thought I'd make one for the GitP crowd. I encourage everyone to participate, regardless of artistic style and/or ability. Heck, I can barely draw myself!

Before we can get started, I need y'all to read the following:


RULES
( paraphrased from Somfunambulist's )


Call dibs on the next panel(s) by commenting. You have 6 hours to draw and post your update. If you don't make your deadline, your slot goes to the next taker in line.
Respect other people's storyline decisions. Don't go hogging or derailing the plot, all right? This is a collaborative effort!
Don't subvert the storyline for the lulz. As Somfunambulist put it, don't throw a fire-breathing cow or terminal illness into the comic at an inappropriate time just to be silly/melodramatic. You CAN be funny or dramatic so long as it's reasonable. If your panel(s) are ridiculous, the comic will continue as though they never happened.
You may inform everybody of 1 fact regarding your submission whenever you post (a) panel(s). This is often un-illustrated background information important for other contributors to know.
1. When you're about to introduce a new character, consider if any of the existing characters can already suit your purpose. Round robins tend to produce Loads and Loads of Half-Formed Characters, which can kill a comic pretty quick.
Your update may contain anywhere from 1-5 panels. Any more and you're hogging the stage. Any less, and... well, you're probably lurking.
Keep it PG-13! Nothing explicit/grotesque by way of sex or violence.
All updates must remain accurate to any previously established facts, with 100% accuracy. Any update which violates this rule will be retconned out of existence.
You can't pre-reserve your slot.
As your mod, I reserve the right to retcon updates which violate any of the abovementioned rules.



THE STORY SO FAR
( here for your lurking convenience! )

http://i53.tinypic.com/2lkve2o.png

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/RoundRobinComicPanel2.jpg

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/RRC/RRC_1.png

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/RobinComic1.png

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/RobinComic2.png

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1972/ninjaszomg.png

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/RRC/RRC_2.png

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/pomchop/Nobody/RR_1.png

http://i51.tinypic.com/2wn02vd.png

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/RoundRobinComicPanels8910rescale600.jpg

http://www.kinogo.com/madmask/rrc/rrc-10.png

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/RoundRobinPanels12and13.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/pomchop/Nobody/RR2.png

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9137/roundrobinmine.png

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/roundrobinqilinculousfirstappearancewithtext-1.jpg

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/Robincomic3.jpg

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/compensationfornonaugmented.png

http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/Robincomic4wordedandsmaller.png

http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/RRC/RRC_3.png


http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9009/experimental.png

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/postblastpanelssecondpanel.jpg


There now. Without further ado, I present your opening panel:



http://i53.tinypic.com/2lkve2o.png

Have fun!

super dark33
2011-04-03, 08:23 AM
Wy posting the same thread twice?

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 09:02 AM
Oh snap! I asked for the original topic to be moved. Is there a duplicate floating around?

Mad Mask
2011-04-03, 11:11 AM
This is very similar to Avatar Battle Royale (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126142)... except it's one panel at the time instead, and more ordered in the succession of comics.

I assume that's only a coincidence?

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 11:32 AM
A mere coincidence. I already said I'd lifted the idea from the MSPA forums. ;D

Domochevsky
2011-04-03, 11:50 AM
I... don't quite get what person A is saying in p1. >_>

(Generally interested in participating, especially since this doesn't have the baggage of ABR.)

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-03, 11:59 AM
I think it's starting in the middle of a story, and previous events will be explained as the comic progresses.

Edit: After I post a panel, how many must I wait before I can post a new one?

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 12:11 PM
I think it's starting in the middle of a story, and previous events will be explained as the comic progresses.

Edit: After I post a panel, how many must I wait before I can post a new one?

Fizzy's right.

And for now I'mma say you can post however often, so long as you don't post twice in a row. This may change if we get more takers.

Fay Graydon
2011-04-03, 12:27 PM
This is very similar to Avatar Battle Royale (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126142)... except it's one panel at the time instead, and more ordered in the succession of comics.

I assume that's only a coincidence?

Actually its nothing like ABR hun...
In this comic you post a single panel and you run with the characters that it already has...
Whereas in ABR we post a comic then await another comic with other peoples characters in to reply.
In ABR we say NO to godmodding another persons characters. but in this as its a general comic that your not putting your own characters into or anything, your using the characters that are in it already, you can do anything you want!

Also I may take part in this, put me up for doing a panel! ^^ but not yet. I need to get those two drawn first :P


I... don't quite get what person A is saying in p1. >_>

(Generally interested in participating, especially since this doesn't have the baggage of ABR.)

Basically (from what i gather)
Person A has taken a "missing scroll" from person B who obviously had it all along.
Person B now has to explain to Person A why he had said scroll that Person A had obviously lost.

Domochevsky
2011-04-03, 01:14 PM
...

Basically (from what i gather)
Person A has taken a "missing scroll" from person B who obviously had it all along.
Person B now has to explain to Person A why he had said scroll that Person A had obviously lost.

Ah, i see. Kinda got thrown by the "but with you" there.

So that means that the next panel would be Person B talking, assuming this is being played straight. (Which it should, since it's the opening.)

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-03, 01:26 PM
I'm going to register my interest with this, ABR is on a go slow at the moment.

smuchmuch
2011-04-03, 02:34 PM
Basically (from what i gather)
Person A has taken a "missing scroll" from person B who obviously had it all along.
Person B now has to explain to Person A why he had said scroll that Person A had obviously lost.

Ah, i see. Kinda got thrown by the "but with you" there.

So that means that the next panel would be Person B talking, assuming this is being played straight. (Which it should, since it's the opening.)

From what I understand of the scene, the genral pose and expression (anger with person A, nervosity on person B) let me think that person A is accusing person B of having stollen the scroll. The 'but with you' meaning that in person A opinion, person B would be the best suspect, and he just saw his suspicion confirmed.

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 06:04 PM
smuchmuch has it right. I just happen to be grammatically retarded. Sorry for the ambiguity!

/shot

Fay Graydon
2011-04-03, 06:10 PM
Actually the grammer is fine.
It just makes Character A seem posh.

THIS IS NOW CANNON!
PERSON A IS POSH! :smallbiggrin:

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-03, 06:39 PM
Canon. 1 N.
</nitpick>

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-03, 06:47 PM
In no particular order...

- I like making comics but lack time/ attention span in the long term, so this seems like a fun idea
- I've looked into ABR and came out with the conclusion that things were too established/complex for me to join in any time soon and additionally that anything but OotSesque stickfigure vector based comics are frowned upon in ABR although not 100% banned. I don't enjoy working with vectors and my preferred drawing style's not especially stick figure or OotSey so I don't think I'll be joining ABR...
- Am I right in thinking that all art styles (except ones that somehow go against forum rules) are acceptable in this round robin?
-Has anybody called the first "dibs" yet and do dibs need to include the word "dibs" in them?
- Person A should be posh, IMO. That's what I automatically assumed when I read the speech bubbles
- Where did the art for the first panel come from? Did Giovedi draw it themself, is it a stock image of some description..? I ask because a mostly online project I got involved in a little while ago seemed like a bright and innovative idea but it turned out that all the artwork but mine was torn without credits from various corners of the net. I wasn't happy having my name connected to that, so I'm carefully prodding this with a metaphorical stick. (The question arose because limited drawing abilities were mentioned but the first image has confident linework at the very least which doesn't strike me particularly as the work of someone who "can barely draw" if we were going to take things really literally.)

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 06:59 PM
- Am I right in thinking that all art styles (except ones that somehow go against forum rules) are acceptable in this round robin?
-Has anybody called the first "dibs" yet and do dibs need to include the word "dibs" in them?
- Where did the art for the first panel come from? Did Giovedi draw it themself, is it a stock image of some description..? I ask because a mostly online project I got involved in a little while ago seemed like a bright and innovative idea but it turned out that all the artwork but mine was torn without credits from various corners of the net. I wasn't happy having my name connected to that, so I'm carefully prodding this with a metaphorical stick. (The question arose because limited drawing abilities were mentioned but the first image has confident linework at the very least which doesn't strike me particularly as the work of someone who "can barely draw" if we were going to take things really literally.)

1. All styles are indeed acceptable.

2. You don't have to say 'dibs' explicitly, but you have to make the fact you're claiming the panel explicit. I guess saying 'dibs' would make it easiest to tell who's claimed what, tho.

3. Yes, I drew it myself. I'm just obnoxiously self-deprecating sometimes. :-P

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-03, 07:13 PM
1. All styles are indeed acceptable.

2. You don't have to say 'dibs' explicitly, but you have to make the fact you're claiming the panel explicit. I guess saying 'dibs' would make it easiest to tell who's claimed what, tho.

3. Yes, I drew it myself. I'm just obnoxiously self-deprecating sometimes. :-P

Boo sucks on point 3. made me look like all of a fool.

Also, "Dibs".

[imagines how many unwritten/misunderstood rules her panels will break]

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-03, 08:20 PM
Dibs.

I'm too late now, but my idea for the first panel was something like:
B: Er... ninjas?
A: Strike one.

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 08:26 PM
Dibs.

I'm too late now, but my idea for the first panel was something like:
B: Er... ninjas?
A: Strike one.

I lol'd IRL.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-03, 08:28 PM
Dibs.

I'm too late now, but my idea for the first panel was something like:
B: Er... ninjas?
A: Strike one.

As far as I can see, you could still do that for panel 3.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/RoundRobinComicPanel2.jpg

I tried to make it very open but wanted to put a few "ideas" out there. Made very quickly and not exactly to my highest "standards". My dad got hold of my laptop so... hum.
(needs more black lines in bottom right corner)

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 08:32 PM
Ooh, painterly. I like. *stuck to greyscale thanks to an inability to colour*

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-03, 08:39 PM
Ooh, painterly. I like. *stuck to greyscale thanks to an inability to colour*

Thanks. It's probably relatively obvious that I don't know what I'm doing with colourwork/shading either, but I'm trying to teach myself so... Posted it and saw about six brand new weird "art errors" but the ball is rolling now which is summat!

Will check back in on the thread in the morning!
(Your composition in the first panel's very strong. I struggle with placing things and blame it on dyslexia, myself... :smalltongue:)

Domochevsky
2011-04-03, 08:43 PM
Dibs on p3, so the previously mentioned joke can be set up for p4. :smallcool:

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 08:46 PM
(Your composition in the first panel's very strong. I struggle with placing things and blame it on dyslexia, myself... :smalltongue:)

Aw man, it's not that great. You see that particular shot in just about every comic. Watch an' learn. It's what I do. :'-D

Domochevsky
2011-04-03, 09:14 PM
Incidentally, what setting/techlevel is this in? Whatever fits?

Edit: Nevermind. <_<




http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/RRC/RRC_1.png

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-03, 09:50 PM
I believe it's all up to us. But they do use scrolls...

Edit: Nevermind also, then.

Edit again: darn, I can't work on it for like 15 minutes. The below script will represent my panel, so you guys continue and I'll replace it with a real one soon.

B: Uh... It was the ninjas! They framed me!
A: Strike one.

Giovedi
2011-04-03, 09:52 PM
S'all up to you.

Also, lol'd IRL yet again.

Felyndiira
2011-04-03, 11:13 PM
Can a crappy artist like me have the honor of drawing the next frame :smalltongue:?

(dibs on 4)

Keveak
2011-04-04, 12:42 AM
- I've looked into ABR and came out with the conclusion that things were too established/complex for me to join in any time soon and additionally that anything but OotSesque stickfigure vector based comics are frowned upon in ABR although not 100% banned. I don't enjoy working with vectors and my preferred drawing style's not especially stick figure or OotSey so I don't think I'll be joining ABR...


ABR has both complex plots, short-lived gags with so little established that it makes sense that a foxgirl in a gasmask blows it up and the only thing about art styles we object to is incomprehensibleness and extremely bad spelling.

I draw my comics with a tablet in OpenCanvas (hugs to the awesome Domochevsky for telling me about that) and people seem to like my horrible doodles. :smallsmile:

Anyway, I don't have time right now but I will probably draw something for this at some point.

So look east when the sun rises and beware! For Keveak is coming! :smalltongue:

Felyndiira
2011-04-04, 01:45 AM
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1972/ninjaszomg.png

[/too lazy to color hands] =p

Giovedi
2011-04-04, 08:21 AM
Hai gaize! Glad to see y'all are having some modicum of fun.

I've been updating the recap spoiler on the OP by compiling all the images in order. Not like there are so many images that you can't just browse the thread right now, but for future reference, that's what I'm up to. :-D

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-04, 10:14 AM
The missing link:
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/RobinComic1.png
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/RobinComic2.png
One of them should be named Robin. You know, 'cause of the thread title...

She looks so sincere in Felyndiira's panel... Maybe it really was ninjas! :smallbiggrin:

BTW, Felyn, your art is most certainly not crappy. Your handwriting is, though. :smalltongue:

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-04, 10:47 AM
Indeed, I was thinking on of the characters could be called Robin (conveniently gender neutral) and the other's last name would be Round. I also thought Person A should have a name with an A initial and Person B one with a B initial. Silly? Perhaps, but so far this has been at least a little light hearted.
I decided not to put any names into my panel though because I wanted to keep it vague and see what everyone else would do.
Is speculation like that and suggesting ideas between panels fine by the way? I forgot to add "1 fact" to my contribution but I'm not trying to suggest the things above ought to be canon they're meant just as suggestions. I guess maybe speculation's fine as long as we don't write hundreds of words of it in single posts?
All three/four new panels are groovy. The height/angles thing on Domochevsky's is hilarious as is the carefully illuminated label (magic? minor/borderline fourth-wall breaking? crazy futuristic tech? Other? you decide!) Felyndiira's panel seems to imply that Person B is female although that could be explained away as the baggy clothing giving the wrong impression if somebody wanted, or not, whichever! I also like how B goes from sweatdrop, collar pulling nervousness, to waving hands in the air making desperate claims about the ninjas, to perfectly relaxed and continuing with the ninjas thing....:smallbiggrin:

Was Person B telling the truth? We can only wait and see I suppose...

Edited to Add:
Ooh, and Keveak, I'll have another look through ABR and reconsider. I think I'll probably stick to occaisonal lurking rather than playing along though as I wouldn't want to muss anything up, plus I've got other stuff I ought to be working on...

Giovedi
2011-04-04, 12:49 PM
I'm down with speculation. :'-D

Also, someone should be named Robin/Round or have an A/B initial. Everyone loves a meta gag!

Ahaha, I'm way amused by the dynamic A + B have developed in the last couple panels. Looks like B's kind of a spaz - cuts a nice contrast with A. B also seems to have a rather inspired imagination... :-)

We shall see whether or not neenjas actually factor into this. Hehe.

Domochevsky
2011-04-04, 03:09 PM
Alright, dibs on the next one. :smallwink:

Domochevsky
2011-04-04, 05:17 PM
And done.




http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/RRC/RRC_2.png



I think we can by now safely assume that B is female, given the recent evidence. (I'm getting a Eastern vibe from this, so i'll happily go in that direction if provoked.) >_>

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-04, 05:18 PM
In that case, the DIBS are called by me now!

EDIT: Can't really promise anything as artistic as some of the pannels we've had so far, but we shall see...

Giovedi
2011-04-04, 05:25 PM
ROFL @ panel. Of course it wasn't neenjas, B! Neenjas would never be so obvious!

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-04, 07:24 PM
Behold, my attempt:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/pomchop/Nobody/RR_1.png


Yeah, mini/micro-ninjas are cool :smallcool:

Giovedi
2011-04-04, 07:30 PM
MICRONINJA GET.

Also, dibsin'!

Giovedi
2011-04-04, 08:30 PM
http://i51.tinypic.com/2wn02vd.png

TBH, I just wanted an excuse to make someone say 'ninj-imps'. Also, 'Robin' is now canon. :'-D

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-04, 10:52 PM
Please, no one call the other one Round.

Felyndiira
2011-04-04, 10:54 PM
Please, no one call the other one Round.

Would you prefer if we called him "Comic-san" =p?

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-05, 05:48 AM
Please, no one call the other one Round.

But if they don't have conveniently cheesy matching names, won't it be harder for them to fight crime? :smallconfused:

The ninj-imps are indeed an interesting development...

Giovedi
2011-04-05, 08:16 AM
Please, no one call the other one Round.

LOL'd IRL.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-05, 08:48 AM
Dibs

It might be a bit longer than "normal" before this one goes up, but I'm fairly confident it'll be ready well within the six hour limit, plus, I think I'm in a different time zone to most of y'all so I probably won't be stepping on a lot of people's toes. If somebody comes along in the meantime and is worried they'll miss out on a slot, it looks like we're allowed up to 1 pre-emptive dibs anyhow so they could probably just bag the panel(s) directly after my one(s) while they wait...?
Edited to Add: ...so that took longer than anticipated...
I'll spoiler this if it's too big, I couldn't read the text when it was at 400px
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/RoundRobinComicPanels8910rescale600.jpg

I'm don't think there's much concrete new information here, all three ninj-imps have already appeared in the comic. Person A's been called "Alpha" by Robin: first name, surname, alias, nickname or other? I refuse to clarify. :smallconfused:

M@XWeru
2011-04-05, 01:36 PM
The image has been deleted. :C

Mad Mask
2011-04-05, 01:51 PM
I call DIBS! Although I'm getting more and more confused... :smalltongue:

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-05, 01:52 PM
The image has been deleted. :C

I'm getting an image on my screen, it's just huuuuge. I did put up a 400px one and then delete it though, so maybe that's broken things?

Edit to Add: Changed it again, I had the full sized one up by mistake which may have been too big to load properly? Less massive now, either way.


I call DIBS! Although I'm getting more and more confused...

Yay new panelist! (what? It's kind of like a type of panelist, isn't it....?)

M@XWeru
2011-04-05, 02:14 PM
Yay, it's working. Totally gonna call dibs once the page of my own comic is up. >.>

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-05, 02:28 PM
Yay, it's working. Totally gonna call dibs once the page of my own comic is up. >.>

Thanks for letting me know. :smallsmile:
[tries and fails to predict content of forthcoming comics]

Giovedi
2011-04-05, 03:11 PM
Gasp! Plot developments! Looks like everyone's got some kinda scroll trouble. :'-D

Is it now canon that Robin's a woman? I'm down with that. :-D Also, 'Alpha' sounds like an alias or title to me.

Mad Mask
2011-04-05, 03:33 PM
Well, I'm drawing Robin as female in my panel(s), so the answer is likely yes.

Although currently, my efforts at realism make her look right out of the uncanny valley... :smalleek: I'll be using a more cartoony style of you don't mind, unless you have a liking for creepy doll-like figures. :smalltongue:

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-05, 04:00 PM
Cartoony is best.

Mad Mask
2011-04-05, 07:53 PM
New comic!

http://www.kinogo.com/madmask/rrc/rrc-10.png

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-05, 07:58 PM
I picture Robin as female...

Also, yay Ninja-Imps, I've had a small impact on the story :D

Giovedi
2011-04-05, 10:53 PM
LOL Alpha. 'Larcener'. Nice, big words.

Also, I'm lovin' the Ninj-Imps. Unless I can't count, there are... three distinct ones, yes?

Domochevsky
2011-04-06, 06:02 AM
LOL Alpha. 'Larcener'. Nice, big words.

Also, I'm lovin' the Ninj-Imps. Unless I can't count, there are... three distinct ones, yes?

Yeah, plus another two still hidden in the tree, so there's room for more. :smallsmile:
(The blonde one has these two little front strands of hair though. They have been missing so far. >_> )

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-06, 06:09 AM
Yeah, plus another two still hidden in the tree, so there's room for more. :smallsmile:
(The blonde one has these two little front strands of hair though. They have been missing so far. >_> )

Hmm, I assumed they were just there because he was hanging upside down... Show how much I know about hair :D

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-06, 07:25 AM
Yeah, plus another two still hidden in the tree, so there's room for more. :smallsmile:
(The blonde one has these two little front strands of hair though. They have been missing so far. >_> )

Just for the record, I was aware of these two strands at the front but since he only appears from the back they're not visible in panels 8 and 9. I decided to give him a l'il Jedi-padawan braid for a bit of extra visual interest from the back although I realise that gravity dictates that probably would have been visible in his first appearance. It could be handwaived by saying it got caught on something in that panel? He has a red belt in my panels mostly due to my "art-style" too - I thought the little extra bit of red would just bring things out a bit more seeing as the ninj-imps are both pretty blocky in terms of posture and I've been using those thick black outlines...
Moving the darker haired ninj-imp's top-knot down to a more standard ponytail was more of a lazy-ness thing. I just felt more comfortable with the style I drew and since part of the point of the comic's flexibility... yeah. For some reason unbeknownst to me I've been thinking of ninj-imp 2 (and occaisonally ninj-imp 1) as "Ben" I think it's just one of my stock male names!


Gasp! Plot developments! Looks like everyone's got some kinda scroll trouble. :'-D

Is it now canon that Robin's a woman? I'm down with that. :-D Also, 'Alpha' sounds like an alias or title to me.

General consensus seems to be "yes" on Robin's female-ness, which I'm also happy enough to go with. I've drawn most characters so that they could be feasibly considered as male or female so far, personally and will probably continue to do so until the plot/character direction dictates otherwise. The blonde ninj-imp/ ninj-imp 1 is probably male though I guess because a) this looks most likely and b)Alpha uses a male pronoun for him.
I chose "Alpha" with aliases in mind, but I'm not fussed if it turns out the character just had cruel parents or whatever.
And yeah, we would appear to have 2 scrolls in play with hints that there are more. Still no clue why the scrolls matter though, or how much they do!


Although currently, my efforts at realism make her look right out of the uncanny valley... I'll be using a more cartoony style of you don't mind, unless you have a liking for creepy doll-like figures.

Cartoony is best.

Uncanny valley is something I worry about a bit seeing as my typical blends quite a few different influences, some closer to realism than others. I don't think it borrows much from photo-realism and most of it is pretty stylised so I don't think it's creepy in the right way to be uncanny valley? I've really liked every panel that's come up so far, all the different art styles are interesting to see together.

I notice I'm the only one to have given Robin wrinkles and grey hairs...? I realised when I drew panel 2 that a lot of art styles would just skip over these details by default and it's true that a lot of the time the angles have meant most of her face isn't visible enough for wrinkles to show, it's just an observation...

Domochevsky
2011-04-06, 08:03 AM
Hmm, I assumed they were just there because he was hanging upside down... Show how much I know about hair :D

His regular hair is a lot shorter than these two strands, so no matter what pose he's in, it wont be affected by gravity. :smallsmile:



...
I notice I'm the only one to have given Robin wrinkles and grey hairs...? I realised when I drew panel 2 that a lot of art styles would just skip over these details by default and it's true that a lot of the time the angles have meant most of her face isn't visible enough for wrinkles to show, it's just an observation...


Gotta say, they look pretty old and beat up in your style due to all the wrinkles and shading on their faces. >_>

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-06, 11:12 AM
His regular hair is a lot shorter than these two strands, so no matter what pose he's in, it wont be affected by gravity. :smallsmile:


but if people decide to keep the braid that would be effected by gravity. I drew the rest of his hair as hair that was too short to flop about but whether that shows or not I have no idea. :smalltongue:



Gotta say, they look pretty old and beat up in your style due to all the wrinkles and shading on their faces. >_>

Is it rude to ask what >_> means? I'm not great with emoticons....
They look the way they do partly because of the art style but partly because I had people who at least look old in mind when I drew Robin's face in Panel 2. I think wrinkles and shadows often make things more visually interesting even in cartoons, I get that it can make things more murky the more details you add though and that a lot of comic artists prefer a minimalist approach. Giovedi pretty much hit the nail on the head when he said my style was "painterly" as like a lot of painters I actually prefer it sometimes when things are scruffy. I also really like colour so I play around with that a fair bit and have been told more than once that my work's a bit too "busy". I see what you mean to such an extent with Alpha though, and suspect that it's mostly dodgy shading on my part with that character... shading doesn't come naturally to me so I still need to practice with it. One thing that might make Alpha look weird in my panels is that I drew Person A in panel 2 as a pale skinned mixed race character (for the halibut heck of it) and I decided not to abandon that approach yet in panels 8 and 9, hence all the brown.

(I'm not trying to dictate how anyone else draws the characters, just sharing some of my thoughts on my own panels :smallsmile:)

@Mad Mask: I totally had to look up "larcener" just to check that it meant what I was assuming it meant. Hooray for seldom used words...:smallbiggrin:
And I love Robin's face in the first panel there... so full of hopes and dreams (ready to be shattered)

Also, how do people feel about adding a note along with their panels on what programmes/media they used to make the comics? Just out of interest? (mine were done on GIMP with a plug-in tablet from circa 2004 or so... rough guess on tablet age there!)

Domochevsky
2011-04-06, 12:39 PM
...
Is it rude to ask what >_> means? I'm not great with emoticons....
...[/QUOTE]

That's a general purpose sideglance. Can also be performed in the other direction, like so:


>_>


<_<


"...what."

As far as busy faces go... keep in mind that every line added increases the age of the person significantly and shaded lines all over the face make them look sickly. Things like this have to be handled with care. :smallsmile:
(Personally i suspect that both A and B are fairly young, given the opening panel.)

As far as panel progression goes... the next one is probably the ninjimp leader telling him in a flashback of sorts about what happened, meaning a plot event that will shape the rest of the progression significantly. Unless something else silly happens. :smallwink:

I'm ok with adding notes, if kept small.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-06, 02:52 PM
As far as busy faces go... keep in mind that every line added increases the age of the person significantly and shaded lines all over the face make them look sickly. Things like this have to be handled with care. :smallsmile:
(Personally i suspect that both A and B are fairly young, given the opening panel.)


An old looking person was what I was aiming for with Robin/Person B in the first panel I did so I just stuck with it with the later ones. I'll probably keep messing around with how I shade/ colour faces in future although this won't necessarily make them look any better just different.
Edit: this was a longer post but it didn't add much to the thread and sounded really pretentious so... I cut most of it out.

Giovedi
2011-04-06, 03:09 PM
Whohohoa, I think we're getting a bit over-srs in here. ;-) I'm not a stickler for cohesiveness where style's concerned, and I really don't think discrepancies in artistic vision are worth fussing over. :'-D

That said, my style is pretty minimalist/generic and therefore details like character ages, colouring, etc. are open to interpretation. Make of 'em what you will! I know I'll be drawing everyone with dots for eyes regardless of what becomes established as canon. ;-0

OH and I used Paint Tool SAI + Wacom Graphire 4 for my panels. Ahyep.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-06, 03:54 PM
Whohohoa, I think we're getting a bit over-srs in here. ;-) I'm not a stickler for cohesiveness where style's concerned, and I really don't think discrepancies in artistic vision are worth fussing over. :'-D
[...]
OH and I used Paint Tool SAI + Wacom Graphire 4 for my panels. Ahyep.


...yeah, I'm a liitle too fond of rambling. Apologies. :smallredface:

Dunno if my guess on the year was right, but my tablet is a Wacom Graphire 2 which looks very much like this one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/heliocentric/2909309897/) but with some scratches on the upper layer(except mine still works so it's not in a waste paperbasket, seriously, I'm hoping that's just a gag photo 'cause that's not a responsible way to dispose of your electrical goods, dude...)
SAI looks like it's fun to use, as does the software Keveak mentioned on the first page.... hum....

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-06, 05:51 PM
At least you guys have specific art styles that all look good in their own way.

I've got very shaky vector art combined with no drawing talent. It's still fun to make though...

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-07, 06:26 PM
At least you guys have specific art styles that all look good in their own way.

I've got very shaky vector art combined with no drawing talent. It's still fun to make though...

I was refraining from posting because I realised that half the posts on this page are mine, but I felt it had to be said: I meant it when I said I really like every panel that's come up and that includes yours. The art was A. OK for the purpose; it gets the point across and you obviously made an effort. (Plus, now we have ninj-imps :smallbiggrin:) If you want to improve your art though I expect you can, just takes a bit (or sometimes a lot) of practice and I guess patience/persistence too. :smallsmile:

Giovedi
2011-04-08, 09:58 AM
Sure is quiet in here. :D If nobody dibses by the time I get home from work, I'll call it.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-08, 02:55 PM
If nobody dibses by the time I get home from work, I'll call it.

Challenge Accepted.

Dibs

And done.
Seriously considered doing something that actually furthered the plot but ended up just gently nudging it back towards the exposition. Sigh.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/RoundRobinPanels12and13.jpg

Giovedi
2011-04-11, 10:01 AM
*chirpin' crickets*

The weekend ate everyone, looks like.

Hey, we could always use a little exposition. Probably helps us along some.

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-13, 10:46 AM
Right then, I shall call it DIBS...

Done...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w192/pomchop/Nobody/RR2.png

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-13, 12:21 PM
Right then, I shall call it DIBS...

Done...

[comic]


!
Could this mean that Ninj-imps keep teeny-tiny horses or does the thief just dig human superstitions? Or something else? The plot thickens...
[wants there to be teeny-tiny horses/donkeys but does not know how to draw horses/donkeys] :smallbiggrin:

Like the panel although was momentarily mystified as to who the third, rather swirly person in the background could be... it's the tree, right? D'oh. :smallredface:

Edited to add: Also loving how the leader ninj-imp presumably pulled that horse shoe right out of hammer-space and dramatically turned to "camera" for that revelation.

Giovedi
2011-04-14, 10:12 AM
+1 for teensy hooved creatures! Ffff gotta practice drawing horse-y things. I'm guessing the thief made a getaway on a miniature equine. :'D

But that still doesn't explain what Robin was doing with a proper-sized scroll....

* DUN DUN DUN *

GrlumpTheElder
2011-04-14, 11:11 AM
I actually imagined a full sized person riding on a mini horse :D

Giovedi
2011-04-14, 11:12 AM
LMAO. Poor mini-horse.

Ninjaman
2011-04-14, 11:15 AM
LMAO. Poor mini-horse.

Yeah :smallfrown:

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-14, 03:02 PM
The first post's now two contributions behind the thread, I noticed... Still, we've not got far enough that it's tricky to catch up or anything.

Also, is anybody interested in making/collaborating on a banner for people to use to link to the comic in their signatures? Maybe if two or more people passed a banner sized file between them and each peson drew a character or something? I'd start us off but I haven't tracked down the dimensions for banners yet and don't know if anybody's interested!

Keen to do another panel/set of panels in the next week or so but am going to give it a little while to let other people have a chance! :smallbiggrin:

Giovedi
2011-04-14, 03:38 PM
FFFFFFF I'll fix that post once I get off work. I shouldn't be hangin' out here while my supervisor's makin' the rounds... ;D

Also, a banner sounds pretty boss. Does everyone around here have Photoshop? 'Cause it'd be easier to assemble a sweet-looking collage-type banner with .psd...

someonenonotyou
2011-04-14, 10:14 PM
I was working on my own comic when I stumbled upon this little comic here and I have one thing to say about it *Dibs*
Here you go now I must sleep

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9137/roundrobinmine.png

Oh I freaking love ninjas :smallbiggrin: Also some credit to my little brother who help me on this.
So what do you think

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-14, 10:15 PM
Had a go at a collage type banner on GIMP. I'm pretty sure it'd be hard to read text on it though... I tried to make sure I had at least one image from everyone who's done a panel so far.

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/roundrobinbannerwoodbackgroundnotext.jpg

It was tough choosing what to put in the trial banner so it's mostly random, although I think I deliberately put the same number of pictures of Robin and Alpha in there? I missed out a lot of good stuff considering how crowded that is!
I reckon it still needs to have Domochevsky's first picture of the blonde ninja hanging down from the top there somewhere...
Hum.

Edited to add: someonenotyou dibsed while I was posting. [waves at new person over enthusiastically]

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-14, 10:52 PM
I will probably contribute to this a lot more (in OotS style) once either my computer is fixed or I get Inkscape on my dad's. I pride myself on being not-that-bad at many different styles! :smalltongue: It's just so much more work to scan or sprite something.

Domochevsky
2011-04-15, 02:20 AM
Y'know, with them being ninjas themselves they should probably be able to see what went on there. Unless the other one is really good. :smallwink:

(Also, i see the hair strand of the blonde ninja continues to defy gravity by standing up instead of hanging down forward as intended. >_> )

Not quite sure where to take the comic from here.

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-15, 09:11 AM
The other one is good enough to steal from them. Well, I'm guessing. Could be someone else.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-15, 10:13 AM
The other one is good enough to steal from them. Well, I'm guessing. Could be someone else.

Or something else. The dark blur is only about the size of the ninj-imps' heads and at that level, in mid air. Strikes me more as a grapple, trained bird or ranged spell in retrospect. (Although I am aware that there's supposedly some sort of difference between "small" and "far away" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25N-4zrk390)...)

Also, it's a little late now, but when I drew my panels featuring ninj-imps I was imagining they were standing on some sort of platform like a low wall in those scenes as opposed to the ground so that Robin and Alpha were more at eye level with them and didn't have to lie on the ground or anything. As I said, it's a bit late now though!

Re: blonde ninj-imp and ponytail ninj-imp being outninja'd by whatever took the horseshoe: the comic establishes that they're ninjas... there's no evidence that they're especially competent ninjas... :smallbiggrin:

If anybody thinks I post too many panels, I won't be offended if the guidelines are ammended to discourage it, but for now... Dibs

Giovedi
2011-04-15, 10:50 AM
ALRIGHT RECAP POST PROPERLY UPDATED. Why did that take so long, self? Bad OP! Bad!

Woo, banner! Even for a trial it's pretty cool. I think it'd generate clickage by curiosity alone. :'D

Also, hey new guy! *wavewave*

I kinda like the idea of the ponytail and blonde ninj-imps being something of a Goldfish Poop Gang. They're already Highly Visible Ninjas, given that Robin could see them well enough to drag 'em into her argument.

It looks like our, uh, 'valiant heroes' are in over their heads. :'D Seems to me we have two mysteries running parallel here: The mystery of the mini-scroll and its abductor, and the mystery of the full-sized-scroll-whose-importance-has-yet-to-be-determined. I might be overthinking things, but I feel like Robin's got a bit of Obfuscating Stupidity workin' for her...

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-15, 03:54 PM
Woo, banner! Even for a trial it's pretty cool. I think it'd generate clickage by curiosity alone. :'D

Also, hey new guy! *wavewave*

I kinda like the idea of the ponytail and blonde ninj-imps being something of a Goldfish Poop Gang. They're already Highly Visible Ninjas, given that Robin could see them well enough to drag 'em into her argument.

It looks like our, uh, 'valiant heroes' are in over their heads. :'D Seems to me we have two mysteries running parallel here: The mystery of the mini-scroll and its abductor, and the mystery of the full-sized-scroll-whose-importance-has-yet-to-be-determined. I might be overthinking things, but I feel like Robin's got a bit of Obfuscating Stupidity workin' for her...

The blonde guy's hair and ponytail's red band made me assume they'd be pretty visible too but Goldfish Poop Gang isn't a term/ tv trope I'm too familiar with: don't they have to be antagonists to be that?

I get the impression our "valiant heroes" are the type that are usually in over their heads. :smallbiggrin:

Panels are nearly done, but I've officially encountered technical problems now... :smallannoyed:

Edited to add:

Done:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/roundrobinqilinculousfirstappearancewithtext-1.jpg

That would have been a heck of a lot easier if I a)hadn't gone out for a couple of hours unexpectedly and b)had had access to the scanner instead of just my digital camera... :smallsigh:

...what do you mean that's not what you guys think of automatically when you see a tiny horse shoe?
(the qilinculous is deliberately slightly too small for a ninj-imp to ride without looking silly, presumably they have a bunch of these. They don't talk. I just thought it would be fun to draw/ see variants of. :smallbiggrin:)

Ninjaman
2011-04-16, 04:59 PM
it´s so... wierd. Great job.

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-16, 05:56 PM
Here's an idea: the comic's world is split into warring factions based on genre! The Ninj-imps could be part of a ninja faction, an imp faction, or more generally an Oriental-themed faction, if I'm using the word right. Alpha and Robin could be from more of a cyberpunk faction because of Alpha's name, or a more medieval one because they use scrolls. Anyway, do you like it? It's a big change so I wanted to get you guys' opinion before I made something like this official canon with a panel.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-16, 06:36 PM
it´s so... wierd. Great job.

Is this about the riding beast in the last panel? :smallconfused:
If so, thanks :smallbiggrin:

I made a point of drawing just one so people can decide for themselves how much variation there is in the species. My main influence for the qilinculous's appearance was the qilin (Chinese mythological creature) hence the name but I'll be the first to admit that I know very little about said mythical beast...


Here's an idea: the comic's world is split into warring factions based on genre! The Ninj-imps could be part of a ninja faction, an imp faction, or more generally an Oriental-themed faction, if I'm using the word right. Alpha and Robin could be from more of a cyberpunk faction because of Alpha's name, or a more medieval one because they use scrolls. Anyway, do you like it? It's a big change so I wanted to get you guys' opinion before I made something like this official canon with a panel.

Thoughts on this:

Sounds fairly cool to me :smallcool:
Although the "warring factions" thing would have had to have been subverted pretty early on in the comic as
a)Robin and Alpha are in the area because blonde ninja hired them (according to blonde ninja's dialogue in the panel 12 cut scene)
and
b)There's infighting amongst the ninjas themselves (same set of panels, plus possibly hinted at in someonenotyou's panel with the tiny dark blur taking the shoe)

Perhaps the ninj-imp thief has defected to the non-ninja side of affairs and Robin and Alpha have either defected to the ninj-imp side or are part of a splinter group/official agency from their side working towards reconciling the two sides?

Supporting your idea we have the following points:

a)Robin immediately blames ninjas for her having the big scroll
b)There's a general unease between the big people and the little people

Robin's clothing in most panels say "mage" to me whereas Alpha's says "futuristic" or at least "tech-heavy setting" so steampunk-esque is a relatively good fit for their faction I'd say.


I'd say go ahead and dibs and draw your panel(s) when you're ready since this is essentially a free form comic. So long as it doesn't actively contradict panels that came before it I don't see why there should be a problem.* I guess if you're overly worried about it wait for Giovedi to respond since he started the thread?

*On this note I did worry that my most recent post somewhat contradicted Blonde Ninj-Imp saying "Now we just need to find out what it means" as he mentions the thief being seen fleeing on the riding beast in my panels... my best explanation for that is he got cut off before being able to elaborate himself when the shoe got nicked and didn't continue in the same vein since the dark blur kind of distracted them all. :smallredface:
(The qilinculous shown in the most recent panel was not supposed to be the one that the thief escaped on, I'm guessing they've not had a chance to check that out properly yet?

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-16, 06:53 PM
Thoughts on this:

Sounds fairly cool to me :smallcool:
Although the "warring factions" thing would have had to have been subverted pretty early on in the comic as
a)Robin and Alpha are in the area because blonde ninja hired them (according to blonde ninja's dialogue in the panel 12 cut scene)
and
b)There's infighting amongst the ninjas themselves (same set of panels, plus possibly hinted at in someonenotyou's panel with the tiny dark blur taking the shoe)

Supporting your idea we have the following points:

a)Robin immediately blames ninjas for her having the big scroll
b)There's a general unease between the big people and the little people

Robin's clothing in most panels say "mage" to me whereas Alpha's says "futuristic" or at least "tech-heavy setting" so steampunk-esque is a relatively good fit for their faction I'd say.

I'd say go ahead and dibs and draw your panel(s) when you're ready since this is essentially a free form comic. So long as it doesn't actively contradict panels that came before it I don't see why there should be a problem. I guess if you're overly worried about it wait for Giovedi to respond since he started the thread?


By warring factions, I basically just meant different factions, not that they're each at war with all the others, sorry. Dibs!

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-16, 07:41 PM
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/Robincomic3.jpg
Oh wow, it's sideways. And big. Effing Photobucket app. In a big hurry now, I'll fix it later, sorry. Deja vu! Can you read the dialogue? I can fix that, too. The lesson here is to never make a comic entirely on my iPad.
Alpha: "That was not my second question. You should know what a qilinculous is."
Robin: "Well it's easy for you. You can just download information."
Edit: Fixed.

"Yes. I am an android. A gay android." -Albus Dumbledore

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-16, 08:07 PM
Oh wow, it's sideways. And big. Effing Photobucket app. In a big hurry now, I'll fix it later, sorry. Deja vu! Can you read the dialogue? I can fix that, too. The lesson here is to never make a comic entirely on my iPad.
Alpha: "That was not my second question. You should know what a qilinculous is."
Robin: "Well it's easy for you. You can just download information."

"Yes. I am an android. A gay android." -Albus Dumbledore

[head implodes]

text is legible :smallbiggrin:

Now I'm left to ponder:

What was Alpha's second question? Is Alpha an android? Is Alpha a gay android? Will Alpha vanquish our little friends' vermin?

Oh what a world what a world....

(As a side note, Giovedi mentioned suspecting Robin of obfusticating stupidity: personally I suspect it's a little of this and a little of that... that being genuine empty headedness, but it looks like Alpha has an unfair advantage anyhow)
(As a second side note: comic looks pretty cool)

Ninjaman
2011-04-17, 11:57 AM
Is this about the riding beast in the last panel? :smallconfused:
If so, thanks :smallbiggrin:


Yes it is.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-18, 11:27 AM
Revamped the banner so that it had some text. The basic principal with selecting artwork to be included was: if artist x drew a character, at least one image of that character drawn by them goes into the banner. There are a couple of exceptions to that and the cut off point was someonenotyou's strip where the horseshoe is stolen so artwork from beyond that stage isn't in the banner because I think he's the most recent artist to have contributed. Perhaps another banner can be made from later entries later on.
It was kind of tricky finding a balance between the artwork being visible and the text being readable with this so feedback on whether that works or not would be appreciated.
It's a pity the minimum banner size isn't bigger, really... :smallbiggrin:

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/bannertexthorizonresized.jpg

PS: Thanks to everyone who gave permission to cut up their work for use in the banner. As far as using it in signatures goes, I've not got enough images on my photobucket yet for hotlinking to present problems so far although if you do have an image hosting account it might be better to host it from there as at some stage hotlinking might become problematic.

Ninjaman
2011-04-18, 01:21 PM
it works i would say.

Giovedi
2011-04-21, 10:22 AM
Ooh, that's pretty cool. Mind if I steal the 'text mask' concept to make a similar version? Nothing wrong with yours, of course, I'd just like to play around with the concept. I couldn't have thought of it myself. :'D

Also! If nobody dibses today, I'm dibsin' when I get back from work. :V

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-21, 10:29 AM
Ooh, that's pretty cool. Mind if I steal the 'text mask' concept to make a similar version? Nothing wrong with yours, of course, I'd just like to play around with the concept. I couldn't have thought of it myself. :'D

Also! If nobody dibses today, I'm dibsin' when I get back from work. :V

No problem. I've seen stuff along these lines before anyhow so it's hardly my own original concept. :smallbiggrin:
The font I used was Lowrider from Blambot although I messed with the spacing and stretched it a bit in Inkscape first I think so... don't know if that's helpful. 'T'was the blockiest font I came across in my admittedly feeble search.

I won't race to out-dibs this time as I've got other stuff I'm s'posed to be working on, plus I told myself I'd try and wait for three updates or so before dibsing again.

Edited to Add: but if no-one's dibsed by this time next week, I'll probably reconsider that.

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-26, 07:50 PM
I would Dibs but I did the last one. What happened to everyone?

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-26, 08:16 PM
I would Dibs but I did the last one. What happened to everyone?

Ah go on then.
Dibs

[I don't know where everyone went either]

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/compensationfornonaugmented.png

Now now protagonists, play nicely... :smallsigh:

The reason there's no shading is that I was feeling lazzy. Given that Robin is Robin, I'm assuming there's some exaggeration involved in her statement. And Alpha's second question's still not been asked.... Ho hum.

Giovedi
2011-04-27, 07:53 PM
Whoops, kinda died there. Got swamped with work and all.

Adding new development to OP now!

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-27, 09:05 PM
Dibs! And extra text to appease Snuggles the Cat God.

Edit:
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/fizzybobnewt/Robincomic4wordedandsmaller.png

Words: now 50% more legible! Does it look like Robin is shouting?

someonenonotyou
2011-04-27, 11:04 PM
ooh Demon ninja interesting

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-28, 10:55 AM
I just stole a frigging horseshoe from under their frigging noses, why aren't they chasing me?

Ah little wingéd thief... you overestimate the energy levels of our heroes! :smallamused:

Speculation on the comic:
... So.
This update:
- introduces the concept of "The Magic Kingdom",
-seems to make reference to a character called Flukes (presumably one of the ninj-imps, or somebody disguised as a ninj-imp, but not necessarily. Could be the blonde ninj-imp's name or part of pony-tail-ninj-imp's name (Blondie called him "Ben" in one of my panels which is either his name or part of one of his names) I suppose - the only ones we can assume aren't "Flukes" are Robin herself and Alpha, who she's confiding in)
- establishes that the ninj-imps can jump like fleas (or like ninjas, in cartoons at least)
- establishes that Robin thinks members of the Magic Kingdom can shapeshift or have other ways of taking on a ninj-imp's form/ impersonating a ninj-imp
- introduces a new race which is ninj-imp sized and has wings and horns
- reveals who stole the horseshoe (qilinculous shoe?) but not necessarily who stole the ninj-imp scroll. The character in the last panel seems to think they'd give chase after he stole the shoe which indicates he's not completely up to speed with the situation as blonde ninj-imp concluded they didn't need it and none of the other four characters thought they had a chance of catching up with the blur.

Questions raised:
- Did the guy with the wings steal the scroll too?
- Where is he?
- Is he working alone?
- Is there any merit in Robin's theory?
- What's the Magic Kingdom and who is Flukes?
- Did the guy with the wings want them to chase him? Did he want them to catch him?


I particularly enjoyed the first two panels and the way Robin and Alpha's argument dialogue is only partly in panel as the blonde ninj-imp's jumping up the tree. :smallbiggrin:


Whoops, kinda died there. Got swamped with work and all.


Sorry you died. :smallfrown:
Hope the work's not been too tedious/hectic.

fizzybobnewt
2011-04-28, 12:49 PM
Speculation on the comic:
... So.
This update:
- introduces the concept of "The Magic Kingdom",
-seems to make reference to a character called Flukes (presumably one of the ninj-imps, or somebody disguised as a ninj-imp, but not necessarily. Could be the blonde ninj-imp's name or part of pony-tail-ninj-imp's name (Blondie called him "Ben" in one of my panels which is either his name or part of one of his names) I suppose - the only ones we can assume aren't "Flukes" are Robin herself and Alpha, who she's confiding in)
- establishes that the ninj-imps can jump like fleas (or like ninjas, in cartoons at least)
- establishes that Robin thinks members of the Magic Kingdom can shapeshift or have other ways of taking on a ninj-imp's form/ impersonating a ninj-imp
- introduces a new race which is ninj-imp sized and has wings and horns
- reveals who stole the horseshoe (qilinculous shoe?) but not necessarily who stole the ninj-imp scroll. The character in the last panel seems to think they'd give chase after he stole the shoe which indicates he's not completely up to speed with the situation as blonde ninj-imp concluded they didn't need it and none of the other four characters thought they had a chance of catching up with the blur.

Questions raised:
- Did the guy with the wings steal the scroll too?
- Where is he?
- Is he working alone?
- Is there any merit in Robin's theory?
- What's the Magic Kingdom and who is Flukes?
- Did the guy with the wings want them to chase him? Did he want them to catch him?


I particularly enjoyed the first two panels and the way Robin and Alpha's argument dialogue is only partly in panel as the blonde ninj-imp's jumping up the tree. :smallbiggrin:

1. I was going to call the kingdom the "Something Magikus" but couldn't think of anything that sounded good.
2. Supposed to be "Flinkes", my writing's just illegible. (As always, I'll fix it later. :smallsigh:) I was referring to someone in the Magic Kingdom, probably in some position of power, though feel free to change that of course.
3. Thanks. :smallbiggrin:

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-04-28, 05:22 PM
1. I was going to call the kingdom the "Something Magikus" but couldn't think of anything that sounded good.
2. Supposed to be "Flinkes", my writing's just illegible. (As always, I'll fix it later. :smallsigh:) I was referring to someone in the Magic Kingdom, probably in some position of power, though feel free to change that of course.
3. Thanks. :smallbiggrin:

Looking back I can see that it's "Flinkes" now. Flinkes being somebody from the Magic Kingdom is an interesting option too.
We shall see when we shall see, I suppose. :smallbiggrin:

Giovedi
2011-04-30, 05:48 PM
New cast member! *prods at horned thief dude*

Hoo, been mad busy these last couple weeks. :-/ Hopefully I'll have the time to dibs proper soon. Interesting to see where this is going... looks like this Flinkes is even shiftier than Robin, seeing as she's so suspicious of them. :'D

super dark33
2011-05-01, 10:49 AM
aha, kingdoms name is gan hachayot, king's name is ish pashot.
if you want more ideas, i can help with that!

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-01, 07:31 PM
aha, kingdoms name is gan hachayot, king's name is ish pashot.
if you want more ideas, i can help with that!


Aha! [super dark has had an idea and wishes to share]
"The Magic Kingdom" isn't the actual name of the kingdom Robin refers to, she's just being her usual ditzy self and using a nickname for it/ has forgotten the name/ can't say the name. The kingdom's really called "Gan Hachayot" and it is ruled by a king named "Ish Pashot".
If you want more ideas, I can help with that!

*square brackets denote annotations made by a hypothetical editor

I tried to make a joke out of tampering with the way you chose to post! D'you see what I did there? Huh? Huh?

and I bother to wonder why I have no friends :smallsigh:

On a less snide note, if I've understood you correctly, super dark, I don't have a problem with using those names and I'd welcome further contributions from you. It's not necessarily up to me of course as I don't intend to be the next dibser.

Suggestion for general Round Robin practice: should we "allow" participants to post scripts which artists can "dibs" as collaborative panels?
I'm basically suggesting something along the lines of Fizzybobnewt's first contribution except imagining that Fizzybobnewt was two people. So the same rules would apply for scripts as the existing ones for panels, i.e: no more than five panels, you can't do two contributions in a row and you get no more than one (1) additional canon fact per entry.
The bare minimum for a script would be the dialogue but I'd prefer it myself if action/poses/ settings are described in the script and a number of panels is given, potentially with a little bit of discretion for creative layouts allowed to the artist who draws the script out.
I'm suggesting this mostly because a lot of people don't feel comfortable/ find it highly inconvenient to post artwork and other people like posting artwork but prefer to be directed in what they draw so allowing script submissions could mean the thread would be easier to participate in for a wider range of people.

Thoughts?

I can see some potential drawbacks to my own suggestion, mainly:

1) Things could get sticky if the script writers vastly outnumbered the artists or if either or both of these groups vastly outnumbered the contributors who both scripted and drew their own panels. In the latter scenario it's not necessarily a [I]problem but it would change the way the thread works significantly.
and
2)Encouraging scripting without artwork could leave us with loads of gaps if a rule wasn't built around it similar to the dibs system. My suggestion is that script submissions should maybe be dibsed too (possibly with something along the lines of "script dibs" which would be followed up with a quote of the completed script and a "dibs" from the person drawing the panels. An expiry date on scripts may or may not be useful: i.e if a script isn't drawn out within that period then the script officially becomes a suggestion instead of a "proper" submission, meaning that it's still perfectly allowed to submit panels based on the script (adapted if necessary) after that point but it doesn't need to be drawn out for the comic to continue.
3)I don't know what the rules would be on "double posting" comics as far as individual and collaborative panels go. That could be confusing. First idea that comes to mind is that you can't post a script directly after a comic you wrote and drew but you can accept someone else's script if the last panel was yours and the script was yours, it'd probably be most polite if you waited around a bit to give others a chance to take the script if the thread was busy or you'd been posting a lot of panels/ lots more panels than anyone else recently.


Again: if people think I'm making too many suggestions/ talking too much here/ dominating the thread in a bad way feel free to point it out, it won't bother me. :smallsmile:

@Giovedi: sorry you're still swamped. Look forward to a panel from you when you can fit it in.

Edited to Add: if people approve of this idea I'd be willing to submit a sample script as a trial run which could either be a script for one of my existing submissions just to give an idea of formatting for the uninitiated in comic scripting (I don't think there are rules for this outside of professional comic scripting for people like DC, Dark Horse Comics, etc.) or a script that someone else could dibs and draw out. Or somebody else could do a trial run unless Giovedi vetoes the idea in which case it wouldn't be canon.

super dark33
2011-05-03, 08:39 AM
:smallbiggrin:
FILLER!

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-03, 09:41 AM
trial script dibs
If anyone wants to dib before I've posted the sample script just go ahead.

Trial Script
(Script's in the spoiler)


Panel 1:
[The winged creature, WINGED DEMON from the last panel in his original setting, [seated on a boulder like item] still thinking
WINGED DEMON: I mean I knew they weren’t the sharpest tools in the shed, but this takes the cake, the biscuit and all associated baked goods to boot!
[SFX:[B]clink clunk clink clunk clop[I]]
WINGED DEMON: This had [I]better pay off in a big way or…
[WINGED DEMON’s internal monologue is interrupted[I]]
[B]Panel 2:
[[I]WINGED DEMON turns to discover the source of the sound, which is continuous but off panel[I]]
Panel 3:
[[close up on WINGED DEMON, looking downwards. He’s located the source of the noise. *It irritates him* [artists discretion]]
Panel 4:
[Reveal shot. The source of the noise is the masked NINJ-IMP THIEF from the “out of context panel in strip #, astride a QILINCULUS of his own, also wearing a red mask with two long tails that stream out in the wind. The THIEF is bounding up a pile of boulders/rocky mound in bounds very similar to BLONDE NINJ-IMP’s bounds in the last comic to meet WINGED DEMON. *The newcomers are scaled so that if the QILINCULUS was standing stationary and the THIEF was mounted in an upright position with his feet in the stirrups they’d be ~2” from the ground if the THIEF was scaled to human proportions. [some artist’s discretion]*
[/LIST]

Notes: As I said before, this is a trial so... take it or leave it folks! :smallwink:

ETA:
Key to my script/ suggested guidelines to script writing and drawing up scripts

SFX : special effects like sound effects, magic, sweat drops etc. These are guidelines only so play around with them to fit your style but attempt to keep to what you think is the general "tone" of the script, if given
Square brackets: "stage directions" to establish setting, characters present and action depicted in a panel. This is a relatively detailed script, you can afford to be more or less specific to accommodate preferences but it could be offputting to artists drawing the script if you go too far either way...
Also used to box off "artist's discretion" comments.
Italics: used to seperate actions from dialogue but also to suggest emphasis. Italics in dialogue don't always have to be represented by italics in the art work if the artist doesn't like using them for whatever reason.
Caps: used here to indicate a character (anything that has expressions counts as a character to me) if the character has no Canon name a description's used instead. If there's no "fanon" name for the character but you don't want to add a name in your strip either then just describe the character in recogniseable terms and caps lock a succinct description of them and stick to it.
Panel Layout: If the artist disagrees with the script writer's division of the panels they can break things up so long as the action and dialogue's essentially the same. If this means significant streamlining of the script it may be best to PM the script writer for "permission" or to just commit to part of the script and finish early if your panel layout exceeds five distinct panels, leaving the option for the next person to pick up where you left off or drop things. Explain such choices in your post if there's a significant discrepancy of this sort between the script and the comic.
"Artist's discretion": points marked "artist's discretion" indicate that the script writer is deliberately giving the artist room for a little improvisation in that specific area. "Artist's discretion" can have added qualifiers to indicate how much artistic lisence they mean. E.g: in my script I marked two sections with the AD tag; whether or not we could see on panel that the "demon" is irritated is left up to the artist and the exact size relation of the ninj-imp and the qilinculous is also up to the artist, although there's slightly less wiggle room there...
Dialogue: If a script's dialogue is really wordy, it can be difficult to put in to speech bubbles. The precise layout of the bubbles can be mentioned in a script if you have something really specific in mind (eg: bubble placement is crucial for a gag) but ultimately it comes down to artists how to cram the dialogue into boxes and bubbles so if they can't get your suggestion to work then adaptions may be necessary. (I'm going to allow a little discretion for this script and any further ones I might do with precise wording, slang and expressions but I'd prefer if the artist PM'd me to let me know about changes to my wording, if possible, just because I like words and comics so it would interest me to know why dialogue changes were deemed necessary.)

M@XWeru
2011-05-06, 09:08 PM
Dibs. Not using the script, though.

Edit:
I didn't see the five panel rule until it was too late, so I had to make a bunch of changes. D: It still ended up six panels long, but if that's a problem, just pretend the first panel doesn't exist. >_>

It's pretty big, so... watch out.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2026/pagexx.png

The Kingdom of Broken Glass is now canon.

Lemonus
2011-05-07, 08:27 PM
The picture's broken.

M@XWeru
2011-05-07, 10:14 PM
It doesn't look broken to me.

This is the URL:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2026/pagexx.png

Ninjaman
2011-05-08, 02:13 AM
The picture's broken.

I can see it.

GrlumpTheElder
2011-05-08, 06:51 AM
I can see it and like it

"you have creatures called imp-imps" :D

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-08, 07:24 AM
:elan::smallbiggrin:

That was significantly funnier than my script. Personal highlight for me has to be Robin's Marilyn Monroe moment: the walking boots only made it better. Also, nice work on Alpha's gender/ human-ness. Still don't know what her deal is...:smalltongue:

M@XWeru
2011-05-08, 11:43 AM
Thanks, though I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say 'Alpha's gender/human-ness'.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-08, 01:40 PM
Thanks, though I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say 'Alpha's gender/human-ness'.

Well, it took a few strips before Robin being female became "canon" - or rather, people's opinions varied, but Felindyra's strip made her look obviously female and the general concensus after that was she should be a she. With Alpha... s/he's flat chested, posh, has darker colouring than Robin and has short fairly neat hair... there doesn't seem to be a canon answer as to whether Alpha's a man, a woman or... something else.
Fizzybobnewt did a strip where Robin complained that Alpha could just download information, hinting Alpha might be a cyborg or android of some description. My follow up to that strip furthered that argument with the A and R arguing with the implication that Alpha was cyborg and Robin wasn't and Robin was bitter.

Short version? (s)he was in character in your strip!

M@XWeru
2011-05-08, 03:45 PM
Right. Specifically, I don't get what Alpha's gender/humanness has to do with my panels - your comment made me curious, since the issue wasn't really addressed (at least not outside of my mind, that I'm aware of).

No offence or anything.

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-08, 03:59 PM
Right. Specifically, I don't get what Alpha's gender/humanness has to do with my panels - your comment made me curious, since the issue wasn't really addressed (at least not outside of my mind, that I'm aware of).

No offence or anything.

None taken. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Alpha comes off looking more masculine and a bit rougher/ more angular in your panels than s/he does in say... Domochevsky's or Fizzybobnewt's colour panels? I like it, it's interesting. It just makes me curious.

Do you think of Alpha as male?

M@XWeru
2011-05-09, 06:13 PM
Ah. Yes, I do.

M@XWeru
2011-05-09, 09:50 PM
The "ring" is actually supposed to be a stylized kunai (http://www.apexresourcegroup.com/images/Naruto_Kunai_EM20905BK-2.jpg) as displayed by the ninj-imps in Domochevsky's panel. The imp-imp wasn't just stealing stuff from our protagonist duo.

Are you poking fun at my beautiful handwriting? D:

Domochevsky
2011-05-10, 11:37 AM
Yah, that was a kunai.

That being said... the legibility is terrible in the latest one. Artsy though. (Good thing you provided a transcript with it.) >_>

Clarity over Prettieness, i say! o/

Related: Dibs. :smallcool:

Domochevsky
2011-05-10, 01:13 PM
And done. Now with 50% more Eastern Magic. :smallcool:


http://www.nudecreator.org/Domochevsky/RRC/RRC_3.png

Ninjaman
2011-05-10, 02:46 PM
Awesome domo :smallbiggrin:

Keveak
2011-05-10, 03:31 PM
That is indeed awesome, well done Domochevsky. :smallsmile:

I wish I drew quickly enough to contribute, to the train-o-montage!

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-10, 03:43 PM
Pity. I'd have loved to see panels from you Keveak... Still, if it's not fun, it's not fun.

ETA: And naw, M@XWeru, I wasn't making fun of your handwriting - just blowing off some steam. :smallsmile: Like I tried to say in my last post, I'm really tired.

(my panels, which were first posted between Domochevsky's most recent page and M@XWeru's are in the spoiler below for anyone who missed 'em. They don't change the plot any)

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/apinkandredpanelwithfergus.jpg
(The green blob in this panel is Ben's qilinculous, Fergus - Fergus's name was my "fact" for the panels.)
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/robinandalphapicturebook.jpg
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/yellowwithimp.jpg
(The imp-imp's dialogue in this panel was: "OK, maybe "attention" wasn't the right word...")

Felyndiira
2011-05-12, 12:07 AM
Oo, Eastern magic. I want to see if I can actually draw something like that.

Edit: I failed XD.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9009/experimental.png

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-12, 09:11 AM
*Dibs*


Erm. Panels:

http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/postblastpanelsfirstpanel.jpg
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/postblastpanelssecondpanel.jpg

(Meant to be from Alpha's perspective. I can't draw anything even mildly technological. Imp-imp has a shield up and in the first panel is popping the last of the stolen goods into a swag bag. Nasty green text in second panel reads:
System Check: Complete
Locate Allies (3)
...Allies Located)

Domochevsky
2011-05-12, 05:09 PM
Damn his smug smile! D:

(No panties on his head anymore... aw. We were rolling deep in the Far Eastern culture for a bit there. :smallbiggrin: )

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-05-13, 09:24 AM
Damn his smug smile! D:

(No panties on his head anymore... aw. We were rolling deep in the Far Eastern culture for a bit there. :smallbiggrin: )

Haha. Glad you picked up that it was meant to be smug - it was very much veering on a flirtatious look for a while when I was drawing. Not exactly what I wanted!

Re: the panties: sooo... those actually were meant to be knickers then and didn't just look like 'em? I don't follow any manga or animé series really - I used to play pokémon a fair bit and watch the dubbed moomin cartoons, which were made in Japan I think, but that's about it... I do have friends who read a couple of series like Fruit Bowl and stuff and I know bits and pieces from places like these forums but not a lot. Ooh! And I watched Howl's Moving Castle (but much prefered the book, so...)
Anyhow. The panties/panty like headgear does appear in the first panel, albeit super distorted. It's the item he's putting in the swag bag. Might post the unfiltered drawing sometime as an "extra", assuming I've not deleted it, that is.

Giovedi
2011-06-11, 01:41 PM
GOODNESS GIOVEDI WHERE DID YOU GO.

Answer: There was a sudden spike in my busy-factor last month and I neglected to elaborate. orz Well, I'm back now, and I'll catch up on everything that's happened in my absence.

Sorry!

Eleanor_Rigby
2011-06-23, 11:17 AM
I can't do another panel just now seeing as the last panels were mine but I did find these sketches lying around so, meh...

unused sketches for the most recent set of panels:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/roundrobinsketchespostexplosion.jpg

sketches done shortly after the horse shoe panel:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/roundrobinsketchesmisc.jpg

and a portraity type sketch on gridded paper:
http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa405/Zomp_Jorr/roundrobinsketchgriddedpaper.jpg

ey up...
[clicks "Preview Post"] huh, I forgot to ink a bunch of stuff.

Keveak
2011-06-24, 05:12 AM
I'd do a panel, but I'm already drawig a comic for something else and my DeviantArt has been negleted for way too long.

But who knows, if I hurry up I might make it. ^_^

Those sketches are pretty neat, by the way, Rigby. :smallsmile: