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leakingpen
2011-04-07, 11:42 AM
Hey everyone there is a NEW anti-HEROES strip up

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/220

This is a sad and joyous occasion, as this is the LAST strip written and drawn by the illustrious creator, Zarah. For those of you keeping track in the Passing the Torch thread, the reins are being passed over to the creative team of DyPen, which is to say, Dyluth the artist, and myself, Leakingpen, the scribe.

So pop the cork, pour the wine, and celebrate! The strip is dead, long live the strip! Dyluth and I hope to soon be bringing you more quality story and art, and continue in the tradition that Zarah has started. Keep your eyes peeled here for our first team update!

Lemonus
2011-04-15, 03:18 PM
Hurrah for team DyPen!

Prince Zahn
2011-04-16, 03:00 AM
That's great news,
Good luck to you both!
*waits eagerly*.

Grim ranger
2011-04-16, 07:51 AM
Hooray! You guys are awesome :smallbiggrin:

Jinglebelle
2011-04-18, 09:23 PM
Woohoo! anti-HEROES lives! It has been resurrected!
I can't make enough smileys to show how happy I am.

Ninjaman
2011-04-19, 03:29 AM
Horray, today is a day of joy.

zimmerwald1915
2011-04-22, 05:49 PM
Joy, and celebration, and feasting, to be written in the calendars and commemorated all years hereafter until the world should end.

Lateral
2011-04-22, 06:11 PM
I'm glad the comic's starting up again.

I wonder why there haven't been any new comics yet? I'll bet Dypen are just trying to establish a comic buffer.

Cuthbertson
2011-04-27, 04:24 PM
Let's not be sipping too much wine in celebration just yet. This new team has to do a lot of butt kissing to earn back the respect of the audience after Zarah let this comic all but dead for six months.

Advice to the new team:

- Pay attention to the comment thread page. The natives are very restless and it is starting to show. You will be surprised to see how far tossing a few words of update into the thread will go and it may even bring some of the lost fans back into the fold.

- Update the About Us page. Now that Zarah is officially retired, people want to know a little bit about the new team who will be putting out comics from this point forward.

- And for goodness sakes, update that copyright date. This isn't 2009. That by itself is enough to make new comic fans think this project is dead.

- Get a twitter account started. And update it whenever you post a new comic update. People will follow it.

- If you are really bold, consider UStream broadcasts of the penciling sessions. Yes, this is computer art, but everything begins with pencil sketches before moving on to the digital phase. People will watch you and participate in the chats. For anyone who doubts this, please see the #drawing_goblins Ustream chat. Thunt has proven that this is effective. In fact, a lot of fans use the Ustream chat even when Thunt isn't actively broadcasting.

This comic has amazing potential. Please do it right and respect the fans. They are your bread and butter if this comic ever moves into a phase where there are opportunities to make money from it.

Cheers!

leakingpen
2011-05-01, 11:34 AM
I can (and will tonight) handle all of that except the ustream, being the lowly script writer. (wink). A bit of an update here, we were given a few final scrips that Dyluth is working off of. I'm not sure where the status of that is, I will email him tonight. But at this point, there is still 2-3 comics before I really have any work to do, pooh.

Thank you for the suggestions! Knowing that I'm assisting in a project that is that beloved by people is awesome.

Cuthbertson
2011-05-02, 05:21 AM
Thank you for the suggestions! Knowing that I'm assisting in a project that is that beloved by people is awesome.

You have a pretty impressive group of fans there, LP. As I recall, there was overwealming support to keep the storyline going after Jordan/Zarah decided to retire.

If your team requires a PR person, please let me know. I have extensive experience in the field of web marketing, and provided I kept close tabs on the team's progress, I could certainly assist by being your connection to the fan world.

If you require any such assistance, please advise.

Best of Luck!

MoonCat
2011-05-08, 04:18 PM
When should we expect the first Dypen strip?

Marnath
2011-05-18, 12:57 PM
When should we expect the first Dypen strip?

It's starting to look like the answer to that one is "never." Hopefully I'm wrong...

Cuthbertson
2011-05-20, 07:27 AM
...knows that Leakingpen is active in other forum areas but has no idea if Dyluth is active, alert or stirring anywhere.

* Pulls up a rock and sits - Offers Leakingpen a stick with which to poke the other partner *

Meanwhile, life goes on. It is the long weekend here in Canada. Wee! :smallsmile:

blackjack217
2011-05-25, 02:20 PM
This seems as dead as Rebellion|Revolution. (which is to bad as they are great comics)

leakingpen
2011-05-26, 10:40 AM
Just talked with Dyluth, he is finishing up the first new page, I am hoping for this weekend!

MoonCat
2011-05-26, 12:17 PM
Just talked with Dyluth, he is finishing up the first new page, I am hoping for this weekend!

Hooray! How wonderful! I note with some distress that the other site has more edginess, by now Jordan will be a tough act to follow.

Ninjaman
2011-05-27, 01:19 AM
Just talked with Dyluth, he is finishing up the first new page, I am hoping for this weekend!

Yay.

Yay yay yay yay yay.

leakingpen
2011-05-27, 12:29 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/221

The first of the Dyluth drawn strips are up! Please note, the website IS running a little slow, it is being looked at.

GrlumpTheElder
2011-05-27, 12:32 PM
Nice, great to see this back up and running.

Ninjaman
2011-05-28, 04:10 AM
Itīs Alive!

Prime32
2011-05-28, 07:28 PM
I was starting to think this wouldn't happen... :smallsmile:

Someone in the comments brought up that Zarah used a dark gray for outlines rather than black. Comparing your strip with the previous, it helped the divisions between panels stand out more. Something to consider.

HalfTangible
2011-05-28, 08:12 PM
I noticed some thickness inconsistency between facial expressions and the person making said facial expressions... a bit of a nitpick, as it's otherwise fine, but i felt like it was worth bringing up...

Lateral
2011-05-29, 09:17 PM
Tra-le-la-le-lea! *fanfare*

MoonCat
2011-05-31, 02:20 PM
And wow, another one? That was very fast and pleasant.

KillItWithFire
2011-05-31, 08:27 PM
As my robotics team says, thrice in a row is repeatable. I'm waiting for the third one before I get excited.

Ninjaman
2011-06-01, 11:42 AM
This is on the run.

leakingpen
2011-06-06, 03:11 PM
Episode 223, IT'S QUENTAS!

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/223

Lateral
2011-06-06, 04:24 PM
Sweet.

...what the face?

Cizak
2011-06-06, 05:02 PM
How come there's only two naes at the bottom with one of them being Zarah? Aren't you two new guys working on it?

Keveak
2011-06-07, 06:56 PM
Could be the webmaster or a shareholder in a copyright that doesn't run out until 2012. Presumably it will change once the old one runs out.

Or one is a Raccoon, either way it's looking like great fun so far. :smalltongue:

Looks good, by the way. I really want to learn more about Quentas already. :smallsmile:

Ninjaman
2011-06-08, 01:39 AM
Awesome. I have no idea what is about to happen but awesome. Just a few theories.
Aldran owes him money.
He is Aldranīs fatherīs soul.
He is awesome.
He is going to kill them, awesomely.

HalfTangible
2011-06-08, 08:50 AM
Awesome. I have no idea what is about to happen but awesome. Just a few theories.
Aldran owes him money.
He is Aldranīs fatherīs soul.
He is awesome.
He is going to kill them, awesomely.

That doesn't account for everybody else's fear
That's ridiculous -_- it's openly stated that Aldran's father is never heard from after he seals what's-his-name
Probably
That accounts for pretty much everybody in the castle.

My theory: he's an exceedingly powerful telepath who has all but lost his humanity. (gleaned from his convo with Zurie and Aldran's warning to clear their heads.

leakingpen
2011-06-10, 10:47 AM
In regards to there being one new name on the copyright

Yes and No. I'm the new script writer. BUUUUT, the Big Guy had several scripts that were not yet turned into comics. SOOO right now the new comics are being drawn from existing scripts. We have one more of those, THEN my scripts being drawn by the wonderful Dyluth. At that point my name will appear.

blackjack217
2011-06-28, 02:43 PM
oh yeah, update!

leakingpen
2011-07-03, 11:36 AM
The first of the DYPEN strips is up!

anti-Heroes 255: I think I can't (http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/225)

Ninjaman
2011-07-03, 12:58 PM
Yay! I love the writer joke.

Lateral
2011-07-04, 12:30 PM
I'm glad there's a new comic up. Now that you guys are making them yourselves, is the update schedule going to become any more consistent? Do you guys have a buffer set up yet?

Mystic Muse
2011-07-04, 12:34 PM
I'm glad there's a new comic up. Now that you guys are making them yourselves, is the update schedule going to become any more consistent? Do you guys have a buffer set up yet?

Getting a buffer set up would be a really good idea.

leakingpen
2011-07-05, 03:08 PM
We are working on just that.

raxies94
2011-07-10, 12:45 AM
I'm excited about this. I stumbled on anti-HEROES some time ago and enjoyed it, but realized that it updated quite slowly. It has a lot of potential in my opinion. I think one of the big things you guys can do is try to get on a regular update schedule. That would be great.

leakingpen
2011-07-13, 07:48 PM
Update! http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/226

Dr. Simon
2011-07-15, 09:21 AM
Good work on keeping this going, guys. Regarding comments on the host site about the pros and cons of seperate artist and writer, I think it's a good thing. For one thing, it reduces the workload of one person (very useful for amateur comics where you have jobs or school as well), for another, few people can write and draw. It worked for Goscinny and Uderzo, after all.

araveugnitsuga
2011-07-15, 05:35 PM
Good work on keeping this going, guys. Regarding comments on the host site about the pros and cons of seperate artist and writer, I think it's a good thing. For one thing, it reduces the workload of one person (very useful for amateur comics where you have jobs or school as well), for another, few people can write and draw. It worked for Goscinny and Uderzo, after all.

The results quite amazing at that... util they broke up.

leakingpen
2011-07-20, 04:37 AM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/227 Alliteratively titled update is up!

Lord Raziere
2011-07-20, 08:29 AM
I agree with Aldran in that last panel.

leakingpen
2011-07-30, 10:34 PM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/228

Update to the comic!

leakingpen
2011-08-01, 09:53 AM
anti-Heroes is now on facebook!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anti-HEROES/214569488589097

leakingpen
2011-08-01, 05:14 PM
Place your bets, place your bets! Any takers on Lana VS Zurie! And who is going to have a wardrobe malfunction first?

super dark33
2011-08-01, 05:16 PM
10 internets on Luna to win, and 5 on zurie for wardrobe malfunction.

Ninjaman
2011-08-03, 02:25 PM
Place your bets, place your bets! Any takers on Lana VS Zurie! And who is going to have a wardrobe malfunction first?

5 souls of the damned on Lana winning. And a halfly rotten potato on Zurie getting wardrobe malfunction. 2 Liter of homoganized vergins blood on one of these happening within 3 strips.

leakingpen
2011-08-04, 03:54 PM
New update!
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/230

Superdark, Ninjaman, take your prize!

Also, please, vote for us at Top Web Comics!
http://www.topwebcomics.com/vote/7767/default.aspx

Ninjaman
2011-08-04, 05:13 PM
New update!
Superdark, Ninjaman, take your prize!


Nice. Now i can invest then in The Mordor Catering service and IFCC.

super dark33
2011-08-05, 04:15 PM
I own a prize.:smallsmile:

so i have 10 internets now muahahahah.

i shall ask WWAD? anytime now to determine stuff.

(i would ask WWTGWTHD but thats too long)

leakingpen
2011-08-08, 06:06 PM
I've tryed to figure that out. TGWTH? the guy with the ... halo? hair?

Rae Artemi
2011-08-08, 06:08 PM
I've tryed to figure that out. TGWTH? the guy with the ... halo? hair?

That Guy With the Halberd. Random background character in OOtS that got ridiculously popular for some reason.

CrimsonAngel
2011-08-08, 06:09 PM
Halberd? :smallconfused:

Ninjas are everywhere these days.

KillItWithFire
2011-08-08, 06:09 PM
I've tryed to figure that out. TGWTH? the guy with the ... halo? hair?

That guy with a halbard. He was one of the azurites during the azure city battle stationed on the wall as the hob-gobbies came up.

EDIT: double ninjaed?!?!?!

leakingpen
2011-08-11, 11:33 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/231

New update! I'm sure everyone HERE knows what's going to happen, right?

raxies94
2011-08-11, 01:05 PM
I'm so happy that you guys are updating pretty frequently!

super dark33
2011-08-11, 08:19 PM
'aldran sent me a letter?'
'what is that basterd up to now?'

'it says: LOL i prepered explosive runes for yoU'

BLAM!

Ninjaman
2011-08-12, 12:25 AM
'aldran sent me a letter?'
'what is that basterd up to now?'

'it says: LOL i prepered explosive runes for yoU'

BLAM!

That would be cool.

Also i love the sandwich

leakingpen
2011-08-12, 11:15 AM
Imagining Aldran talking in lolcat hurts my head... Now, Kall, I could see doing that. (Y U NO Cast FIIREbull?)

Dr. Simon
2011-08-13, 02:56 AM
I like the similarity of that guard to Shaggy, but shouldn't the sandwich therefore be a lot bigger? Zoinks!

leakingpen
2011-08-13, 02:59 AM
it SHOULD, but it didn't work with the Aldran running away with the sandwich gag. In my heart, I wanted the next page to be a bunch of panels with a hallway full of doors, and everyone coming out and past each other, but I will save that for an actual chase scene, I think.

super dark33
2011-08-13, 05:34 PM
Use that after they get a pet of some sort.
(fiendish puppy?)

leakingpen
2011-08-13, 09:18 PM
Use that after they get a pet of some sort.
(fiendish puppy?)

umm... hmm. I love the idea for a filler arc, but Jordan might not approve. Have to check on that!

leakingpen
2011-08-18, 11:03 AM
New comic! http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/232

Ninjaman
2011-08-18, 11:19 AM
She grows with the job.

super dark33
2011-08-18, 04:24 PM
lets hope quentas wont smack her or somthing.

leakingpen
2011-08-25, 11:12 AM
New comic!

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/233

leakingpen
2011-08-30, 11:35 AM
Splash page! WOOO!
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/234

Go, read, enjoy! Also, another update TOMORROW! (Dyluth REALLY wanted to have 5 updates in a month, heh. )

So, after this arc is over, we'll be switching characters. Who do you all want to see the further adventures of?

Lateral
2011-08-30, 11:55 AM
Well, we haven't seen Laris and Lana's old party in a while.

...Come to think of it, who else would the comic be focused on? We'll be leaving both the Ivory Veil and the Anti-Heroes, so the only other characters I can think of are Laris and the adventurers, and they're currently together.

leakingpen
2011-08-31, 10:16 AM
Lateral, what about our favorite Lich? Also, there's that gnome running the amusement park, right? The kobold mega maid. Lots of side characters we could explore more fully.

Here ends the story arc, and I know you all were waiting for this!

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/235

super dark33
2011-08-31, 10:21 AM
i hope she fell on a spike or somthing so she dies.:smallbiggrin:

what are the chances of this happening?

leakingpen
2011-08-31, 12:06 PM
please. eldhins a cleric. She's not instantly dead, worst case shed be heading towards negative 10. He'd stabilize her, then walk away.

Ninjaman
2011-09-03, 11:00 AM
Yes he did prepare explosive ruins.

Logalmier
2011-09-13, 07:37 PM
Websites not working for me. Anyone else having this problem?

Mutant Sheep
2011-09-14, 06:37 AM
Yes he did prepare explosive ruins.

That sounds like the perfect spell to kill Indiana Jones with. :smalltongue:

Valwyn
2011-09-14, 07:11 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Happy Eldhin looks creepy? :smalleek:

Other than that, just waiting for the new comic. :smallsmile:

HalfTangible
2011-09-14, 07:55 AM
Why did they let him prepare spells while he was captured?

leakingpen
2011-09-14, 12:41 PM
who says they did? He had some alone time in the library, right?



Icanseeuuuuu , Well, a copy from the script.

(in this last panel, give Eldhin a huge, giant, s--- eating grin. The bigger the better. It needs to be so big, its downright creepy!)

so, mission succesful!

HalfTangible
2011-09-14, 01:41 PM
who says they did? He had some alone time in the library, right?



Icanseeuuuuu , Well, a copy from the script.

(in this last panel, give Eldhin a huge, giant, s--- eating grin. The bigger the better. It needs to be so big, its downright creepy!)

so, mission succesful!

quote, "what spell i prepared this morning" unquote :smalltongue:

leakingpen
2011-09-15, 11:12 AM
well, they were brought it as the sun was rising, so it was still morning, right?

HalfTangible
2011-09-15, 01:22 PM
well, they were brought it as the sun was rising, so it was still morning, right?When they came in, Eldhin was with them. And Eldhin is smart enough, paranoid enough, and brotherly enough (if you have a brother, you'll get that) to keep Aldran from preparing spells.

The first moment Aldran would have had time to prepare spells after being released from Eldhin's custody would be when they were in the cage, which would take a long while. However, they tried to escape via fireball almost immediately after the guard left. Then they found the door open, and ran off to find the library, where they searched as hard as they could for the scroll, which would take hours.

Where in that would Aldran have sat down and prepared spells?

MoonCat
2011-09-16, 06:22 PM
Hey, thought of paying a dollar and getting a banner on there? It'd be cool, if entirely pointless.

leakingpen
2011-09-16, 06:26 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/236

new update! No story, just some good ol fashioned crafty fun!



MoonCat, ???

MoonCat
2011-09-16, 08:19 PM
You know, the ads.

Ninjaman
2011-09-18, 04:25 AM
That sounds like the perfect spell to kill Indiana Jones with. :smalltongue:

Epic misspell

Drogon Malice
2011-09-18, 04:32 AM
just started reading, looks like a fantastic comic strip, keep up the good work!

Dr. Simon
2011-09-19, 05:58 AM
Where in that would Aldran have sat down and prepared spells?

Why assume he would need to? (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#spellMasterySpecial)

HalfTangible
2011-09-19, 07:22 AM
Why assume he would need to? (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#spellMasterySpecial)

Because Aldran doesn't strike me as the type to pick a feat to make something easier. :tongue:

blackjack217
2011-09-19, 09:49 AM
He is 17th level minimum, he is not going to run out of spells people.

leakingpen
2011-09-19, 09:58 AM
mooncat, what ads?

Jade Dragon
2011-09-19, 04:08 PM
mooncat, what ads?

*points at top and bottom of page*

leakingpen
2011-09-19, 05:17 PM
Okay, I'm confused. Are you referring to buying ads on GITP, or selling ads on the anti-heroes website?

Jade Dragon
2011-09-19, 05:28 PM
Okay, I'm confused. Are you referring to buying ads on GITP, or selling ads on the anti-heroes website?

I dunno, you'll have to ask her. But she did say "ever think of paying a dollar and getting a banner on there?", so I think she means pay a dollar to get a banner on GitP.

leakingpen
2011-09-20, 01:13 AM
I would go for that, except the banners on GITP started after she made that comment.

HalfTangible
2011-09-20, 07:30 AM
I would go for that, except the banners on GITP started after she made that comment.

No, they started before and i cannot believe this... am I the only one who understood right off the bat?

leakingpen
2011-09-27, 09:28 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/237

a little comic relief

super dark33
2011-09-28, 11:37 AM
'White may be detected as evil too' hehehehe.:smallbiggrin:

Doorhandle
2011-10-01, 07:23 PM
What happens if you spray the two on each-other?


.......:smalleek:

leakingpen
2011-10-03, 10:40 AM
Doorhandle, you'll have to wait about 2 years to find that out, but find out you will!!


New strip everyone!

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/238

I'm pleased as punch to be working on this storyline, as now I get to write some of the other characters as well! This is my test as a writer, please everyone, be brutal!

Jade Dragon
2011-10-03, 12:07 PM
It's Bardic Knowledge, not Gather Information.

leakingpen
2011-10-03, 12:17 PM
Nope, bardic knowledge would be to know about existing things, such as long standing curses, that spooky house on the hill that's been there for years, what this magic item might be, and who last owned it.

Gather information is to learn current events, and involves hanging out in places people gossip (like bars) buying drinks, ect. It involves CHA, but can be done by anyone. but, a bard (high cha) would be the best bet.

CoffeeIncluded
2011-10-03, 12:30 PM
I'm really eager to see this story arc.

leakingpen
2011-10-03, 01:41 PM
Coffee, thats just because one of your characters gets to come visit soon! :P honestly, me too, this is going to be fun. (not to give too many spoilers, but, DUNGEON CRAWL!)

TinyMushroom
2011-10-03, 02:48 PM
Anti-Heroes has returned! Yaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!! :smallbiggrin:

leakingpen
2011-10-12, 02:16 PM
Happy to please, My myopic mycological.

I shall please even more. There is MORE new anti-Heroes!

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/239

Doorhandle
2011-10-14, 06:03 AM
I dunno, I think a lot of song involves some ryhme, and it's not unheard of for people to strum AND sing.

leakingpen
2011-10-14, 09:56 AM
Doorhandle, Giacomo is rapping, not singing. (hes a character from pvponline, based on Eminem. )

Lateral
2011-10-14, 07:57 PM
Doorhandle, Giacomo is rapping, not singing. (hes a character from pvponline, based on Eminem. )

Oh? In that case, having the music notes illustration doesn't really make sense. Rapping isn't the type of music best represented by floating music notes; it gives the wrong kind of idea, like it's Perform (Lute) or something.

Still, I'm really liking the new team. Doesn't look like you can keep a regular schedule yet, but you're still working this out. (You're doing a hell of a better job of updating than Zarah was, that's for sure.)

Doorhandle
2011-10-14, 09:57 PM
Oh? In that case, having the music notes illustration doesn't really make sense. Rapping isn't the type of music best represented by floating music notes; it gives the wrong kind of idea, like it's Perform (Lute) or something.

Still, I'm really liking the new team. Doesn't look like you can keep a regular schedule yet, but you're still working this out. (You're doing a hell of a better job of updating than Zarah was, that's for sure.)

Well, I think it's supposed to be *bad* rap.

leakingpen
2011-10-17, 09:58 AM
he IS playing the lute. hence the floating notes. If he were singing, there would be notes framing his speech balloon. I know, I know that's not obvious. I'm thinking of someway to show that better, going forward.

leakingpen
2011-10-20, 11:11 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/240

Aaaand, BARFIGHT!

super dark33
2011-10-20, 11:33 AM
Last appearence? well there goes my hopes that Giacomo will die a gruesome way...

Mystic Muse
2011-10-20, 11:39 AM
Was Giacomo by chance named for somebody?:smalltongue:

leakingpen
2011-10-20, 12:05 PM
Yes, Giacomo is a cameo. He and Binwin Bronzebottom belong to Scott Kurtz, of PVPonline. Binwin is Kurtz's pc in the game he plays with wil wheaton and the Penny Arcade Boys, and Giacomo is a bard based on eminem that he put into a comic with Binwin. No, he won't die. I don't kill guests! (gets stains on my favorite rug, and I get melancholy when I see the stains. )

Mystic Muse
2011-10-20, 12:12 PM
Ah. I was thinking of something else entirely. Never mind.

Doorhandle
2011-10-25, 05:18 AM
I remember binwin At least.

...(I have really got to re-watch that podcast.)

leakingpen
2011-10-26, 09:35 AM
In fantasy vurld, inn sign reads YOU!

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/241

super dark33
2011-10-26, 01:25 PM
Hehehehehe......
inn sign reads you....

CoffeeIncluded
2011-10-26, 01:36 PM
Oh boy.

(So when does Team Gale show up? :smalltongue:)

leakingpen
2011-10-26, 02:41 PM
coffee, probably a couple weeks to a month.

Jade Dragon
2011-10-26, 04:14 PM
coffee, probably a couple weeks to a month.

This is set in the Murphy's Law world?

Or did Serrin use Plane Shift?

I MUST KNOW!!!

leakingpen
2011-10-26, 04:46 PM
Jade, we just had a couple characters from a 4e standard world, and a character from scott pilgrim vs the world. It's a cameo. no rules neccesary, lol.

danc
2011-11-17, 07:34 PM
anybody notice roy in 243 and the trees attacking dwarf reference :smalltongue:

Prince Zahn
2011-11-18, 05:32 AM
anybody notice roy in 243...
Wow, you're right! it really is Roy Redhilt in the flesh! O_o

leakingpen
2011-11-18, 09:57 AM
Nope, its Joy Redhilt. She is still under the effect of the cursed belt of gender changing. (Are alternate worlds grand?)

Jade Dragon
2011-11-18, 12:26 PM
Comic link is leading to somewhere else.

CoffeeIncluded
2011-11-18, 02:49 PM
I didn't even know you updated at first.

Dr. Simon
2011-11-18, 03:55 PM
Think the site's been attacked. Hopefully Dypen or Crazed can confirm or deny, and equally hopefully fix it if so!

Prince Zahn
2011-11-18, 04:59 PM
Nope, its Joy Redhilt. She is still under the effect of the cursed belt of gender changing. (Are alternate worlds grand?)
In more ways than imaginable :smallamused:
I understand she's undeniably bald (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0235.html) Err- in need of a mophead i mean - wig too?:smalltongue::smallamused:

Logalmier
2011-11-19, 04:53 PM
The site has been compromised. It now has turned into a place that sells anxiety-reliving drugs.

Doorhandle
2011-11-20, 01:15 AM
What a bunch of pricks. What posses a salsemen and makes them think they have the right to steal a webpage?

And what kind of medication company calls itself anti-heros anyway?

stabbybelkar
2011-11-20, 02:09 AM
What a bunch of pricks. What posses a salsemen and makes them think they have the right to steal a webpage?

And what kind of medication company calls itself anti-heros anyway?

What are you guys talkng about? The site works fine for me, see? http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic

Lord Raziere
2011-11-20, 12:54 PM
It works fine for me as well….

Volthawk
2011-11-20, 01:02 PM
Likewise, I see the site fine. I could see it yesterday too, now I think about it.

Jade Dragon
2011-11-20, 01:09 PM
What are you guys talkng about? The site works fine for me, see? http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic

Try clicking on the link in Leakingpen's sig. Or one of the specific comic links.

Volthawk
2011-11-20, 01:24 PM
Try clicking on the link in Leakingpen's sig. Or one of the specific comic links.

The link in his sig still works fine for me.

Fargazer
2011-11-20, 02:02 PM
Try googling "anti-heroes." Depending on your browser/operating-system/search-engine/carpet-color/etc. you might be able to click to see a preview of the site, apparently advertising pills.

Jade Dragon
2011-11-20, 02:05 PM
Try googling "anti-heroes." Depending on your browser/operating-system/search-engine/carpet-color/etc. you might be able to click to see a preview of the site, apparently advertising pills.

result (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=13&gs_id=1h&xhr=t&q=anti-heroes+comic&pf=p&sclient=tablet-gws&tbo=d&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=anti-heroes+c&aq=0&aqi=g1g-b1g-vC1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=60b2ffae21c8cc26&biw=768&bih=946).

Volthawk
2011-11-20, 02:11 PM
result (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=13&gs_id=1h&xhr=t&q=anti-heroes+comic&pf=p&sclient=tablet-gws&tbo=d&source=hp&pbx=1&oq=anti-heroes+c&aq=0&aqi=g1g-b1g-vC1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=60b2ffae21c8cc26&biw=768&bih=946).

Google gives the names and descriptions that presumably match the stolen stuff, but when I go onto it, it's the normal website.

leakingpen
2011-11-21, 10:09 AM
Hmm, looks like Crazed took care of it before I knew it was an issue, it seems to be fixed guys! Sorry about that.

Jade Dragon
2011-11-22, 12:10 PM
Hmm, looks like Crazed took care of it before I knew it was an issue, it seems to be fixed guys! Sorry about that.

Nope. I think you all somehow have it stored in your computers.

KillItWithFire
2011-11-22, 03:15 PM
The "site may be compromised" thing shows up in the site description if you just google "antiheroescomic." But clicking on the link in google, or in the forums, or just going to the site directly just by typing the address in the search bar works just fine and my computer protection software hasn't given me any nasty messages yet. Definitely something to have Crazed know about but I don't think it would make that much of a difference if it's ignored.

leakingpen
2011-12-02, 11:47 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/244

Yay update. My fault completely for the lack of them.

Also, the compromise thing is completely taken care of, and google shouldnt be showing it any longer either.

blackjack217
2011-12-02, 12:48 PM
Why do I think that baby has max ranks in Craft (carpentry)?

Doorhandle
2011-12-02, 07:00 PM
Proably has ranks in Profession:(cheesemaker) too.

HalfTangible
2011-12-02, 08:24 PM
And levels in cleric?

blackjack217
2011-12-02, 09:04 PM
And levels in cleric?

Favored Soul actually :smalltongue:

Ninjaman
2011-12-03, 05:59 AM
It is down :smallfrown:.

leakingpen
2011-12-05, 11:05 AM
You assume its a baby.

Jade Dragon
2011-12-05, 11:44 AM
The site's back up!

Ninjaman
2011-12-08, 12:30 PM
It is some other website when i follows the links.

leakingpen
2011-12-19, 11:53 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/245

Doorhandle
2012-01-01, 05:41 PM
...Did not see that coming.

:smalleek:

erk.

leakingpen
2012-01-17, 03:55 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/246

New comic everyone!

TinyMushroom
2012-01-23, 02:26 AM
Dun dun DUNH!

wait...

did someone throw panties at him?

leakingpen
2012-01-23, 10:29 AM
He IS rather popular with the ladies.

leakingpen
2012-01-24, 01:44 PM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/247 New comic update!

CoffeeIncluded
2012-01-24, 04:48 PM
Huh, Kaal's certainly improving with the illusions. Social skills? Not so much.

TinyMushroom
2012-01-24, 05:12 PM
Oh kaal, you never fail to amuse me :smallbiggrin:

leakingpen
2012-02-02, 03:19 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/248

update! In other news, Dwarven Clerics, even the TREES know its a cliche!

leakingpen
2012-02-07, 03:49 PM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/249

Doorhandle
2012-02-08, 06:33 AM
It appears his ex has plans for this tiny patch of forest...

ThePhantasm
2012-02-08, 06:42 AM
I love the work you guys are doing, but I have one criticism. Please stop with all the OOTS shoutbacks. First it was the explosive runes, then Roy in the inn, now the "trees are attacking" bit.

It actually is really annoying because it breaks me out of the story in a way that no other joke does. It also continues to emphasize connections between Anti-Heroes and OOTS in a way that I think undermines the integrity of your own story - instead of the story being your own, it seems increasingly dependent upon Rich's and the popularity of Rich's strip. Anti-Heroes owes a lot to OOTS no doubt, both in terms of art and audience, but have a big neon sign flashing over the fact all the time makes your story feel more like fan-fic than a story on its own merit.

Anywho, that's my little rant, but seriously please stop. Everything else you are getting right but the sheer number and overtness of OOTS callbacks is really dragging it down a bit. They aren't funny either, they are just sort of there, as in "Oh, yeah. That was an OOTS reference."

leakingpen
2012-02-08, 10:12 AM
Hmm. Well, Joy as a cameo was a cameo gag of which we are doing several (a few more, non oots, but other webcomics, are coming soon).

Explosive runes has turned into an internet wide thing, I've seen that gag on several dozen comics now.

And, the dwarves being afraid of trees is an OLD gag. Much older than OOTS. It's a freaking Lord of the Rings joke.

So, I do see your point, but it is in many cases more a matter of OOTS and us taking from the same source, in parallels. (THere was also a recent strip in which one character stated, let's not steal a gag from the Giant. That was a rewrite, because I had already written a script using that gag, and then it was used in OOTS. I rewrote the strip to NOT use the same gag, but did a call out to it in the comic.)

ThePhantasm
2012-02-08, 11:36 AM
So, I do see your point, but it is in many cases more a matter of OOTS and us taking from the same source, in parallels.

Hmm. I guess I can see how it could be inadvertent, then, but given that so many parallels hit in such a short span of time, I was beginning to fear this was not only 100% intentional, but would continue to occur. One way around it would be to say "hey, Rich used the dwarves are afraid of trees LOTR trope already, so lets subvert it and do something different, or use another dwarven trope."

I don't want my criticism to appear too harsh, as I said, I love the work you guys are doing. I think its great.

TinyMushroom
2012-02-08, 03:58 PM
I think you made a mistake in panel 6. Laris suddenly regained the bruise on his forehead.

leakingpen
2012-02-08, 05:55 PM
Tiny mushroom, yeah, I missed that, I'll tell Dyluth.

ThePhantasm, the tree/dwarf thing is long established

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/204

And no, I agree, it does seem a bit much oots refference in a short time, I'm going to watch that in the scripts. Thanks!

leakingpen
2012-02-22, 01:35 AM
250 comics everyone!

http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/250

Mystic Muse
2012-02-22, 01:47 AM
Yay. Looks like there's going to be mind control in yet another comic I was enjoying. :smallannoyed:

leakingpen
2012-02-22, 12:56 PM
a. is this a bad thing?

B. Enh. not so much mind control as carrot and stick, with a big magical stick.

Mystic Muse
2012-02-22, 01:00 PM
[quote]a. is this a bad thing? For me, yes it is. It causes me to abandon things I previously enjoyed.


B. Enh. not so much mind control as carrot and stick, with a big magical stick Alright. I'll trust you until I see something that I specifically find Squicky enough to drop the comic over.

leakingpen
2012-03-01, 01:43 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/251

Sing with me everyone!

TinyMushroom
2012-03-01, 01:48 PM
I really wonder what a certain bard will do with this information. :smallsmile:

Doorhandle
2012-03-04, 12:17 AM
If only they knew...

leakingpen
2012-03-07, 12:06 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/252

FireJustice
2012-03-09, 07:20 AM
15 comics or so without Aldran, Kaal and co.

the heroic party isnt interesting, they arent the reason people liked anti-Heroes But the still keep focussing on them.

Yup. All bets are off, giving up reading at last. I Wish the best luck.

Dr. Simon
2012-03-09, 08:06 AM
Oh no, not another comic with a goblin in a tree. That's it, I'm not reading any more :smallyuk:

Sarcasm

leakingpen
2012-03-09, 05:25 PM
15 comics or so without Aldran, Kaal and co.

the heroic party isnt interesting, they arent the reason people liked anti-Heroes But the still keep focussing on them.

Yup. All bets are off, giving up reading at last. I Wish the best luck.


Firejustice, in case you haven't been reading the posts here as well as on author comments on the site, this side arc is being run while Jordan works on putting together the plotline for the next chunk of the main storyline. It's a side arc that is entirely of my invention, but cleared by the main author, while he works on school and the plot.

Except for a few breaks in and out, the comic is going to JUST be the side arc of the heroes until, my guess is, about June. If you are really that uninterested in the heroes, sorry to hear it, but go ahead and pop out, and check back in a few months.

leakingpen
2012-03-15, 11:25 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/253

NEW COMIC! Yay. And, Dr. Simon, more goblin in tree, sorry.

Doorhandle
2012-03-16, 03:37 AM
OOOOOH Boy.

Man, is he gonna flip out when he finds out that Our Wizard Did It. :smallbiggrin:

Also, what is the rhythm of the undead heart? I mean, traditionally their hearts don't beat, but if the rest of them can move about unhindered, why shouldn't their hearts beat?

leakingpen
2012-03-17, 03:18 PM
OOOOOH Boy.

Man, is he gonna flip out when he finds out that Our Wizard Did It. :smallbiggrin:

Also, what is the rhythm of the undead heart? I mean, traditionally their hearts don't beat, but if the rest of them can move about unhindered, why shouldn't their hearts beat?

handle, that's the gag,it totally sounds like a classic supernatural romance title, but when you think about it, the undead heart HAS no rhythm.

Doorhandle
2012-03-17, 04:55 PM
I'm aware of this. I just overanyalyse everything.

leakingpen
2012-03-22, 12:55 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/254

Today on anti-Heroes, Fan Service!

araveugnitsuga
2012-04-02, 09:35 PM
How much until we return to the actual anti-heroes?

HalfTangible
2012-04-03, 10:25 AM
How much until we return to the actual anti-heroes?

Until the end of this entertaining side-plot. :smalltongue:

...

Dear lord i sound like an advertisement =(

Doorhandle
2012-04-04, 12:48 AM
That gnome is up to no good.

...they should totally drag him with them into the minefeilds. :smallamused:

leakingpen
2012-04-05, 05:17 AM
Today we pluck some low hanging fruit, and give the Heroes a couple of groupies. Bets on how long they'll live?

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/256


as for how long, um... I'm thinking until summer. Basically, this story line lasts until the Creator is able to throw some more of the primary plot my way for scripting, which means, after finals.

Doorhandle
2012-04-05, 05:57 PM
Oh no! we're in the depths of filler!


5 jokes in one strip?
JOKESECPTION!

super dark33
2012-04-05, 06:44 PM
Yo dawg i heard you like jokes, so i put a joke in a joke in a joke in a joke in a joke so you can laugh while you laugh while you laugh while you laugh while you laugh while you laugh.

Ahm yes.

leakingpen
2012-04-06, 09:29 AM
Yes, well, I like laughing!

leakingpen
2012-04-12, 09:25 AM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic#table_comment_post272

today, our heroes step out on dangerous ground.

Doorhandle
2012-04-13, 06:05 AM
Huh. I did not know you could get landmines in "Earthquake."

This infomation shall trouble any future players of mine immensley. :smallbiggrin:

leakingpen
2012-04-20, 05:58 PM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/258 Today, the Hero's fell for it!

Doorhandle, it's quaking because the cliff under them is crumbling.

And we will be taking a break from the hero's, and visting an old friend soon!

leakingpen
2012-04-26, 11:19 AM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/259

On a very special Ograh... HEY! Is that who I think it is?

CoffeeIncluded
2012-04-26, 02:53 PM
Okay, I like Ograh.

Prince Zahn
2012-04-27, 09:41 AM
Not sure why, but when I open the link the center page only shows a second Anti-HEROES banner(replacing the comic) but it's not like that on other strips in the archive -am I missing something? (you know, other than the comic strip?)

t209
2012-04-27, 12:32 PM
What will be her nick name Ograh Windfey or something Ogre namey thingy?

Arranis Thelmos
2012-04-27, 05:03 PM
Next up on the Ograh...

Classic.:smallsmile: Can't wait for the next one!

leakingpen
2012-04-29, 03:33 PM
glad you all like it. Completely Dyluth's idea, I have to say. I just ran with it.

leakingpen
2012-05-10, 12:58 AM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/261

Today's ograh is a big bleeping deal!

Doorhandle
2012-05-10, 02:11 AM
HA! "Bow lower when you scrape, Dave."

Let's hope redcloak isn't caught watching this episode.... :smalltongue:

leakingpen
2012-05-18, 12:58 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/262

someone better call the bouncer!

leakingpen
2012-05-25, 10:16 AM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/263

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!

Doorhandle
2012-05-28, 06:42 AM
"Is there a cleric in the audience?"

Arranis Thelmos
2012-05-28, 08:26 AM
I'm putting my money on Ograh. Stay strong Dave!

leakingpen
2012-05-29, 05:02 PM
"Is there a cleric in the audience?"


OOOOO, thats a good one!

leakingpen
2012-06-01, 01:09 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/264

and now, we return you to our regularly scheduled filler arc!

Arranis Thelmos
2012-06-01, 08:19 AM
Poor Ograh, something tells me that her show's not going to be renewed for another season after this. :smallfrown:

leakingpen
2012-06-01, 05:46 PM
Are you kidding? She does this every few months.

super dark33
2012-06-01, 06:17 PM
I wonder how long will it take to repair the studio.

TinyMushroom
2012-06-05, 02:14 PM
Epic Phineas & Ferb reference :smallbiggrin:

leakingpen
2012-06-08, 01:03 PM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/265

And, back to the heroes!

super dark33
2012-06-08, 01:17 PM
Nice wig of supreme leadership.:smallbiggrin:
ell, its not obvious.... i thought he would be a plain chief.

Arranis Thelmos
2012-06-09, 08:18 PM
I don't know what I like more about that guy, the wig or the pot-belly. :smallbiggrin:

Doorhandle
2012-06-10, 09:01 PM
The wig. Provides nice contrast.

Also, I'm pretty sure the koblod is piloting that goblin around like a gundam. :smalltongue:

leakingpen
2012-06-11, 12:51 PM
Wig? you assume he doesn't naturally have golden flowing hair?

leakingpen
2012-06-15, 01:41 AM
Well, her having animate rope was ALMOST usefull...

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/266

Doorhandle
2012-06-15, 02:47 AM
But our antiheros? What about them?!! :smallfrown:

Also, I thought the hair/wig goblin was the koblod. Oops.

leakingpen
2012-06-15, 12:32 PM
nope, the generic goblin who was hissing and left is.

Prince Zahn
2012-06-15, 01:29 PM
My gods NO, LALDERA! You Should know so much better than to call a wig wearing, Ograh watching, 'expecting' slaver "fat" - NO! E-Even if he is from a freaky accented race that may as well have LA -1, say you're sorry!


EDIT: why am I suddenly getting the feeling I Insulted him - and all goblin kind, more than she did..?
<_<
>_>
>_<

leakingpen
2012-06-21, 08:03 PM
Prince Zahn, who is that blond green skinned guy behind you withe the club?



In the meantime, WOOT UPDATE!

http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/267

Prince Zahn
2012-06-23, 01:54 AM
A bit late for flattery, ain't it, Laris?
Though The goblin chieftain would have been better off gagging Laldera's gags 3 panels ago.

Speaking of Laldera, she's missing her black eye in panels 1 and 5.

leakingpen
2012-06-28, 02:56 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/268

flattery will get you EVERYWHERE Mr. Ardenwood.

The Succubus
2012-06-28, 04:13 AM
Ah, so when he's making out with his legions of adoring female fans, he's not doing it for fun, he's scientifically checking for signs of vampirism with his silver tongue?

After all, there's so many places that need checking for vampirism.....:smallamused:

leakingpen
2012-06-29, 04:16 PM
Ah, so when he's making out with his legions of adoring female fans, he's not doing it for fun, he's scientifically checking for signs of vampirism with his silver tongue?

After all, there's so many places that need checking for vampirism.....:smallamused:

OOOO, delightfully dirty! Your handle is well deserved.

leakingpen
2012-07-08, 10:32 AM
Ooops! Here is the past thursday's comic! dont forget your towel

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/269

leakingpen
2012-07-13, 05:29 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/270

The one you're never happy with, I think ANY artist can commiserate with that concept, eh?

leakingpen
2012-07-20, 12:45 AM
And here is Bleuse unfinished masterpiece. (for those interested, an iron poet competition has just started up in the main arts and crafts page, we could always use judges and spectators!)

http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/271

In a week (not next,the week after) We will leave our heroes for a time, to check on a few other characters! anyone wanna guess?

super dark33
2012-07-20, 10:49 AM
1 moment of silent, for whoever died in that poem.

that surprised me i must say.

Drowlord
2012-07-20, 12:04 PM
Good moment of silence; about three hours. That was worthy of it though.

leakingpen
2012-07-21, 01:22 AM
Super Dark, Bleuse's brothers and sisters. Several of them, slowly, over time.
Suprise in a good way I hope!

Drowlord, thank you!

super dark33
2012-07-21, 08:09 AM
in a good way of course!

the surprise is that the reverese psychology actually worked.
its not always working.

Doorhandle
2012-07-25, 02:14 AM
In a week (not next,the week after) We will leave our heroes for a time, to check on a few other characters! anyone wanna guess?

The titular characters maybe? :smallbiggrin:

Also, wow. That side-character went from silly-looking and slightly annoying to sympathetic REALLY fast. Well played. :smalleek:

leakingpen
2012-07-26, 04:11 AM
Doorhandle, I wish. Still working with The Creator on some more of the prime plot. And thank you! The original script for this when we started this side arc had Laris writing an impromptu poem praising Bluese to appeal to his ego. This seemed to work better.

leakingpen
2012-07-27, 02:04 AM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/272 ahh, a cell. Just the thing to escape from

Prince Zahn
2012-07-27, 03:40 PM
http://www.antiheroescomic.com/comic/272
ahh, a cell. Just the thing to escape from Well, of course, it woundn't be proper hero etiquette otherwise.

heck, Laris would know that...:smallcool:

Anyway, I'm calling Baztorak as a great military leader of dwarves, who took goblinoid prisoners of war and enslaved them to death, presumably renowned for his religious accomplishments, such as using the goblins to build a monument, structure or altar for Thor, or championing Thor's faith with a bold, memorable act.

Which would explain why Hilmor would know this on a N20 with what would thus appear to be knowledge (religion), or knowledge (History), Which should generally appeal to clerics and dwarves respectively.

leakingpen
2012-07-28, 12:51 AM
Well, of course, it woundn't be proper hero etiquette otherwise.

heck, Laris would know that...:smallcool:

Anyway, I'm calling Baztorak as a great military leader of dwarves, who took goblinoid prisoners of war and enslaved them to death, presumably renowned for his religious accomplishments, such as using the goblins to build a monument, structure or altar for Thor, or championing Thor's faith with a bold, memorable act.

Which would explain why Hilmor would know this on a N20 with what would thus appear to be knowledge (religion), or knowledge (History), Which should generally appeal to clerics and dwarves respectively.



Ohh no, not at all. He's an evil bad bad dwarf, magic user. I'm using him largely to have a fun debate about alignment (Thank you John Wick) in a few issues.

Prince Zahn
2012-08-01, 07:29 AM
Ohh no, not at all. He's an evil bad bad dwarf, magic user. I'm using him largely to have a fun debate about alignment[...]

It's fine,

Every now and then a playgrounder simply needs to guess waaaay over his head so he can stay healthy and interested. Of course, by "every now and and then" I mean "there's always at least 10 of us doing it at any given time.":smallwink:

Much more if you count the OOTS forums.

leakingpen
2012-08-03, 10:09 AM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/273

Understood Prince Zahn.

New update, and old faces!

leakingpen
2012-08-10, 09:44 PM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/274

why yes, she DOES sleep with her hand on the hilt.

Doorhandle
2012-08-13, 02:46 AM
http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/274

why yes, she DOES sleep with her hand on the hilt.

A ninja maid, perchance?

Also, smooth moves by the hooded guy in the 4th panel. :smallcool:

TinyMushroom
2012-08-13, 04:57 AM
There seem to be multiple people. The figure in the middle has a female body. :smallbiggrin:

leakingpen
2012-08-14, 04:07 PM
tiny mushroom, is that a demon with a bow tie, in shibari?

TinyMushroom
2012-08-16, 06:22 PM
It's something inspired by something that happens in the first episode of the anime Koharu Biyori. It's not shibari, it's just a normal ribbon wrapped around her tied into a bow at the end, like a fancy birthday present :smalltongue:

leakingpen
2012-08-16, 09:38 PM
Ah, well, often the use shibari ends up being put to as well.. heh.

New Anti-heroes! There are a total of 4 hidden gags or easter eggs. Find them all!

http://antiheroescomic.com/comic/275

Prince Zahn
2012-08-17, 01:58 AM
A guy on the Official website comments beat me to it, but the point is still valid:
-Cap'n Crunch? What is he doing here?
-why have y'all hid'n Cap'n Crunch from us this whole time?

:smalltongue: