Almagesto
2011-06-09, 01:10 PM
Yes, you read it right. I’m trying to do THAT without driving my DM insane.
I would like to ask for some help in rebuilding the succubus/incubus monster class (Savage Species) in order to give it a necromantic flavor. I'm doing an 8 lvl Dread Necromancer (Heroes of Horror) with both the Necropolitan (Libris Mortis) and Phantom (Monster Manual V) templates - acquired at level 4 (bringing me back to 3) and 8, respectively. I've already convinced my DM to let my character "transform" into a devil when he reaches level 9 (thus starting the advancement in the succubus/incubus monster class). I find the abilities boosts impressive – especially the boost to Charisma which adds to my animate cap and AC – but the special abilities could do with some improvement. The original option was just prestige classing into a Pale Master (Libris Mortis), but two things deterred me from doing it: one, the class kind of sucks to begin with and you lose a caster level; and two, since I’m already undead I would basically be entering it for just the animate undead for free and the touch abilities (of which just Deathless Master’s Touch is worth anything).
So, getting right on to the aspects of the Succubus/Incubus Monster Class I would like to modify:
Racial Traits:
HD: d12 for being undead.
Saves: All good for being outsider.
Darkvision 60 ft. I’ll just add these to the 60 ft. earned when becoming a Necropolitan.
Poison Immunity: I wanted to change this, since I’m already immune to that after becoming a Necropolitan, but I don’t know what would not alter the balance of the class. I wouldn't mind just acquiring a Mother Cyst (Libris Mortis) those spells are cool :smallcool:.
Special Abilities
Doom: I’ve already maximized my Intimidate and I have a fear aura due to the Dread Necromancer Class. Should I change this for something else? If so, to what? Maybe Animate Undead?
Ethereal Jaunt: I already have Incorporal Jaunt from the Phantom template (Monster Manual V), and I honestly don’t see any difference between them. So I was thinking changing it for Awaken Undead (Libris Mortis).
Also, regarding my spellcasting… there’s really nothing I can do, right? I’ll be stuck at 8 th lvl Dread Necromancer casting power? Anyway, in the end I figure I would be something like: Undead Outsider (Augmented, Chaotic, Evil, Native) PC, right?
This is my first homebrew, so please be gentle :smallsmile: Thanks for your help :smallbiggrin:.
I would like to ask for some help in rebuilding the succubus/incubus monster class (Savage Species) in order to give it a necromantic flavor. I'm doing an 8 lvl Dread Necromancer (Heroes of Horror) with both the Necropolitan (Libris Mortis) and Phantom (Monster Manual V) templates - acquired at level 4 (bringing me back to 3) and 8, respectively. I've already convinced my DM to let my character "transform" into a devil when he reaches level 9 (thus starting the advancement in the succubus/incubus monster class). I find the abilities boosts impressive – especially the boost to Charisma which adds to my animate cap and AC – but the special abilities could do with some improvement. The original option was just prestige classing into a Pale Master (Libris Mortis), but two things deterred me from doing it: one, the class kind of sucks to begin with and you lose a caster level; and two, since I’m already undead I would basically be entering it for just the animate undead for free and the touch abilities (of which just Deathless Master’s Touch is worth anything).
So, getting right on to the aspects of the Succubus/Incubus Monster Class I would like to modify:
Racial Traits:
HD: d12 for being undead.
Saves: All good for being outsider.
Darkvision 60 ft. I’ll just add these to the 60 ft. earned when becoming a Necropolitan.
Poison Immunity: I wanted to change this, since I’m already immune to that after becoming a Necropolitan, but I don’t know what would not alter the balance of the class. I wouldn't mind just acquiring a Mother Cyst (Libris Mortis) those spells are cool :smallcool:.
Special Abilities
Doom: I’ve already maximized my Intimidate and I have a fear aura due to the Dread Necromancer Class. Should I change this for something else? If so, to what? Maybe Animate Undead?
Ethereal Jaunt: I already have Incorporal Jaunt from the Phantom template (Monster Manual V), and I honestly don’t see any difference between them. So I was thinking changing it for Awaken Undead (Libris Mortis).
Also, regarding my spellcasting… there’s really nothing I can do, right? I’ll be stuck at 8 th lvl Dread Necromancer casting power? Anyway, in the end I figure I would be something like: Undead Outsider (Augmented, Chaotic, Evil, Native) PC, right?
This is my first homebrew, so please be gentle :smallsmile: Thanks for your help :smallbiggrin:.