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Yora
2011-10-01, 01:16 PM
I was just wondering.

Are the any actual horror movies that are not terrible?
Any movies that don't start with a bunch of annoying teenagers played by 30-something actors, who get into a place where they are not allowed, ignore all the warnings they get, and piss of a crazy guy or giant monster living in that place, to split up and all die except for one?

Axolotl
2011-10-01, 01:22 PM
The Shining.

the first three zombie films by Romero, the second three are more down to personal prefrence but the Night, Dawn and Day are all brilliant films.

John Carpenter's The Thing is a great Horror film and the best example of body horror in films. Speaking of body horror most of Cronenbergs films are great as well.

There are plenty of great horror films.

Yora
2011-10-01, 01:30 PM
Ah yes, somehow I didn't think of Steven King movies. Those follow a different pattern.

thompur
2011-10-01, 01:50 PM
Alien. Scared the s#it out of me.

bloodlover
2011-10-01, 01:51 PM
The Exorcist maybe? Grindhouse for the lulz and ofc my all time favourite horror movie : Nosferatu :smallsmile:

Raistlin1040
2011-10-01, 02:52 PM
The first 2 Scream movies and arguably the 4th one as well. Especially the first two, which subvert the 80s slasher genre brilliantly while still being suspenseful and gripping.

H Birchgrove
2011-10-01, 03:04 PM
Some episodes of Space: 1999.

I would like to say Dracula (several films) but stories with Dracula easily becomes more like romantic adventures rather than pure horror. Haven't seen the first Dracula film (or the preceding Nosferatu, or the re-make from the 70's with Klaus Kinski).

Frankenstein. At least the one with Robert de Niro.

Agreed about The Shining and The Exorcist.

The Omega Man with Charlton Heston is borderline I think.

Athaniar
2011-10-01, 03:28 PM
Nightmare on Elm Street is always a classic, at least the first (though I like several of the sequels as well, but the remake just feels uninspired). It's mostly for the villain you'll want to watch these films, though. And some really imaginative kills, if you like that.


I would like to say Dracula (several films) but stories with Dracula easily becomes more like romantic adventures rather than pure horror. Haven't seen the first Dracula film (or the preceding Nosferatu, or the re-make from the 70's with Klaus Kinski).
Thinking of the one with Gary Oldman, hm? Fortunately it's just an exception, no other version I've seen has been that heavy on the romance (not seen all of them, though). I'd suggest the Hammer Horror ones with Christopher Lee, and the Bela Lugosi original, of course. And Nosferatu, but be warned, it can seem a little bit silly watching it now.

Tengu_temp
2011-10-01, 03:54 PM
Ah yes, somehow I didn't think of Steven King movies. Those follow a different pattern.

If you're talking about patterns, than what you describe in the OP is a slasher movie. Those are pretty much never scary and more often than not, the purpose of watching them is to see the monster/killer gruesomely murder all the annoying characters.

Starscream
2011-10-01, 04:02 PM
* The original Nightmare On Elm Street (a personal favorite)
* The Exorcist (only film to ever really scare me)
* Poltergeist
* Re-animator
* The Thing
* Alien (both this and the Thing are sci-fi, but also clearly horror)
* Romero's Dead Trilogy
* The Shining
* Suspiria
* The Fly (1986 version)
* The original Halloween (yes, it's a slasher flick. But it's the slasher flick)
* Silence of the Lambs (if thrillers count)

McStabbington
2011-10-01, 04:22 PM
Um, just in the last 10 years or so, I can think of several horror films that avoid that description and are excellent films. Let the Right One In. The Descent. Frailty. Jesus Camp. If you want to go older, I would say the first two Aliens films and The Thing are some of the most terrifying movies I've ever seen.

Comrade
2011-10-01, 04:38 PM
I've never been much into horror movies. The closest I've gotten to horror movies that I enjoyed were the Predator films and that's more thriller/action than horror :v

Axolotl
2011-10-01, 05:29 PM
Ah yes, somehow I didn't think of Steven King movies. Those follow a different pattern.The Shining is based on a Stephen King novel but that doesn't stop it from being one of the greatest films of all time.

Bhu
2011-10-01, 09:18 PM
I was just wondering.

Are the any actual horror movies that are not terrible?
Any movies that don't start with a bunch of annoying teenagers played by 30-something actors, who get into a place where they are not allowed, ignore all the warnings they get, and piss of a crazy guy or giant monster living in that place, to split up and all die except for one?

More than a few (it helps if you don't mind subtitles). Unfortunately there are certain trends in horror. Horror fans tend to be scare fans (prefer those movies where they gradually tone down the music into silence before doing a fast cut to a spooky face and cranking the sound, i.e. jump movies), special effects fans (monsters, slashers, torture porn), or atmospheric fans (ghost stories, mysteries, etc). Hollywood believes by far the bulk of American horror fans belongs to the middle bunch (and for a period of time in the past they were right).

Therefore horror movies are designed as quickie films based around special effects scenes designed to do a fast turnover because the stereotype is that all but a few make their money in the opening two weeks. Since the emphasis is on effects, the writing is geared towards getting dumbass teen protagonist A to death scene B as quick as possible. Because they dont think the audience wants smart writing other than memorable sound bites, or characterization, they wanna see people get messed up by monsters/killers. And many fans have been forgiving of crap writing because they just assume all horror movies will have it so they may as well accept what crumbs the movie studios throw them. Fortunately there's the rare company willing to take a risk, or an indie film that does pretty well for itself due to lack of studio influence, and foreign films are becoming more accessible.

So tell me what you look for in a horror film and I shall find you some. :smallsmile:

JDMSJR
2011-10-01, 09:27 PM
I'm going to throw Psycho into the mix. Still scary after all these years.

Serpentine
2011-10-01, 11:04 PM
Alien and The Thing, certainly. The original Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The Korean movie The Host is quite good, as is Cloverfield. Pirahnas 3D was awesome in a ridiculous way :smallbiggrin: Oh, and Jaws.
My Boy found Susperia amazing and terrifying. I thought it was gorgeously shot and an interesting film but not scary in the least, so I guess that's a YMMV thing.

As Bhu alluded to, what sort of horror do you like? Fantasy, monster, psychological, torture porn, slasher, ridiculously over-the-top, understated, animal attack, realistic, ghosty, demony, zombiey, vampirey...?

Kindablue
2011-10-01, 11:15 PM
The original Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

The first two remakes are also worth checking out.

Serpentine
2011-10-01, 11:16 PM
Meh.
#1 4 eva :3

Marillion
2011-10-01, 11:19 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I was pretty disturbed by Pan's Labyrinth. It wasn't a horror movie as much as it was a dark fairy-tale, but still.

Serpentine
2011-10-01, 11:22 PM
Oh yeah. Great movie. Definitely at the very least had horror elements.

Amiel
2011-10-01, 11:29 PM
I was just wondering.

Are the any actual horror movies that are not terrible?
Any movies that don't start with a bunch of annoying teenagers played by 30-something actors, who get into a place where they are not allowed, ignore all the warnings they get, and piss of a crazy guy or giant monster living in that place, to split up and all die except for one?

I actually won't call them horror movies to be honest IMO. They're more slasher movies or thriller movies.

The good horror movies are the ones like Ringu, Ju-On, Drag Me to Hell, the Orphanage (although that movie wasn't particularly horrifying, but it was creepy), REC (the original), the Eye (the original).

Serpentine
2011-10-01, 11:54 PM
Hansel and Gretel is pretty good, too.

Knaight
2011-10-01, 11:59 PM
There is also the small matter of one Alfred Hitchcock, and most everything he ever made.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-02, 12:14 AM
Evil Dead trilogy
Trick 'r' Treat
Shaun of the Dead

Lord Seth
2011-10-02, 12:33 AM
The first 2 Scream movies and arguably the 4th one as well. Especially the first two, which subvert the 80s slasher genre brilliantly while still being suspenseful and gripping.I'd say the third also. Granted, while it isn't good, it isn't terrible either.

Serpentine
2011-10-02, 12:34 AM
Oh yes, I really enjoyed Trick'r'Treat, and The Birds is amazing.

Starwulf
2011-10-02, 01:25 AM
Texas Chainsaw Massacre(original and the remake). Freaked me and my wife right the hell out.

SDF
2011-10-02, 04:12 AM
Evil Dead is really a comedy, but entertaining.

The American Ring is really good, I liked it much better than Ringu. Say as many horrible things about the other terrible Asian horror remakes, but The Ring is still one of the scarier films I have seen.

If you are a fan of Stephen King watch the miniseries Storm of the Century. It is an amazing combination of atmosphere and human nature. It was written by King specifically for television and comes across much better than certain novel adaptations. Also, is Andre Linoge the same "person" as Randall Flagg? We may never know.

The British film The Signal is one of the best modern horror films I have seen. It is done in three parts by three different directors and is absolutely brilliant.

For foreign cinema the original Eye is very good. My favorite though, is far and away Kairo. It was remade as Pulse in the US but shares little with the original. The common theme of loneliness in a large city that is present in much of Japanese media is examined. It also uses much more subtly uses the modern Asian horror motifs than some of its contemporaries.

Serpentine
2011-10-02, 04:15 AM
All this has me feeling like watching The Mist (not to be confused with The Fog) again... But do we have it?

edit: Australia has a couple of well-reputed horror movies. Undead is sort of along the lines of Evil Dead, complete with triple-barrel shotgun (also along those lines and across the sea: New Zealand's Black Sheep and Braindead are classics in their field :smallamused:). Wolf Creek is (very) loosely based on a real event.

Shadow of the Sun
2011-10-02, 05:39 AM
And then you've got the more...surreal...horror films.

Eraserhead is AMAZING.

Videodrome likewise.

Anything by David Lynch or David Cronenburg are worth watching; not all of them are horror, but the ones that are are VERY good.

Serpentine
2011-10-02, 05:44 AM
Oh God, Eraserhead. Dammit, why did you have to remind me of that. The snipping, the snipping! DX

Shadow of the Sun
2011-10-02, 05:46 AM
See?

The proof is in the pudding.

*evil grin*

And apparently Inland Empire is even trippier and scarier.

Serpentine
2011-10-02, 06:09 AM
I wouldn't call Eraserhead "scary" so much as "OH GOD THE **** IS HAPPENING".

Shadow of the Sun
2011-10-02, 06:13 AM
Same difference, more or less, as far as I'm concerned. :smallwink:

Mr.Bookworm
2011-10-02, 06:20 AM
There's an excellent book by Stephen King you might want to check out called Danse Macabre, where he talks about horror and what makes it work. Has a lot of really good recommendations.

Some recommendations of mine:

[•REC], to use the fancy proper formatted title. I literally did not sleep that night after the ending.

The Descent is just horrifying on every level.

Every single movie Guillermo del Toro has ever done has at least one scene that creeped the living hell out of me.

Let the Right One In is the feel-good romantic comedy of the summer.

28 Days Later is an excellent zombie movie that can be genuinely scary in places. The shots of an abandoned London (which they accomplished by blocking traffic off for five minutes) are beautiful and horrifying at the same time.

Alien is always amazing. Aliens is a lot more actiony but still has some scary moments.

The Midnight Meat Train is one of the better B-Movies in recent memory.

The original Wicker Man is genuinely creepy in places, but it's more of a suspense piece.

Slither is both funny and creepy, which is hard to do.

The Dawn of the Dead remake in 2004 isn't actually all that scary, but it's a fun zombie action flick.

X: The Man with the X-Ray Eyes (just ignore the title) has one of the most unsettling endings in movie history (and was reportedly worse in the original draft) and is a good example of Lovecraftian horror in film.

Bhu
2011-10-02, 05:19 PM
And then you've got the more...surreal...horror films.

Eraserhead is AMAZING.

Videodrome likewise.

Anything by David Lynch or David Cronenburg are worth watching; not all of them are horror, but the ones that are are VERY good.

You might like Pontypool

Whoracle
2011-10-02, 05:47 PM
How did I not see this thread earlier?

Let's see:
The Descent - Has got an get-offed-one-by-one plot, but with a nice environment. Caverning FTW!
28 Days / Weeks later - Nice take on the zombie flick, especially the first one.
Bad Taste - Gore horror. Not that scary, more on the icky side, and pretty funny IMHO.
Braindead - Same as above. Gotta love that Peter Jackson.
Ju-On / The Grudge series and the varoius Ring(u) movies - Purists hate the american remakes, I find both versions of all the films to be entertaining.
Mirrors - Suspense horror. Weak ending IMHO, but a good scare.
The Abandoned - Suspense / Mystery / Horror. Pretty interesting aesthetic.
Blair Witch Project - The originator of the mainstream mockumentary genre. Scare level depends on how close you live/have lived to the woods and if you're familiar with wild camping far away from civilization. Its sequel is nice enough, too, but doesn't come near.
Paranormal Activity 1 / 2 - Both very solid. Nothing I'd watch alone, to be honest, even though I'm considered an expert in getting scared and dealing with it :)
The Troll Hunter - Norwegian mockumentary. Watch it in norwegian if you can understand it, or in german. The english dub seriously sucks. Seriously. Never heard a worse dub in a film that got released in theatres.
Cube - Great "Kill-em-all" flick. More of a gross-out than a get-scared film, but fun nontheless. The sequels were OK, but not on the same level as the first one.
Shutter Island - Syspense / Psychological thriller. Good for more than one watch.
The Others (2001) - One can only watch this movie one time, sadly. Take care not to get spoilered on this one. Seriously.
Pandorum - Kinda like "The Descent", only with a sci-fi setting. The movie wished it was Event Horizon, and succeeds to 75%.
Event Horizon - My personal benchmark for sci-fi horror that is not paced as glacially as the original Alien.

Seeing that the OP is german, I'll have to add everything that Olaf Ittenbach has done to the list. Don't know if his stuff has ever been translated to other languages, though.
Special tip: Premutos - "Huuuuuuuuugooooooo!" is all I'm gonna say.

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Poultrygeist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poultrygeist) - Deserves honorable mention on ANY list, no matter which topic.

Starbuck_II
2011-10-02, 05:54 PM
Anyone mention the Grudge? Grudge 2 wasn't as good though, but the original rocked.

Science Officer
2011-10-02, 06:02 PM
Whoracle beat me to it, Event Horizon.

Where we're going we won't need eyes to see.

comicshorse
2011-10-02, 07:41 PM
I'll second :
The Descent and Alien (particulalrly horrible if, like me, you're claustrophobic)
Ringu and Event Horizon ( for bone chilling atmosphere)
Dead Ringers ( more physcological than normal horror but one that definitely left me feeling weirded out)

and add Hellraiser (which I love for the creation of its own twisted mythology that I find fascinating)

H Birchgrove
2011-10-02, 07:47 PM
Superman 3 and Supergirl.

Wait a sec... :smallconfused:

:smalltongue:

Whoracle
2011-10-02, 08:47 PM
Late Night Addendum (tm):
John Carpenters In The Mouth Of Madness - Athmospheric and Lovecraft-infused. Plus, it has Sam Neill aka Dr. Alan Grant as lead.

Surrealistik
2011-10-02, 08:50 PM
May (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_(film)). 10char

thorgrim29
2011-10-02, 09:51 PM
Jesus Camp.

Hah! Good one.

An Enemy Spy
2011-10-02, 09:56 PM
I thought 1408 was pretty good.
Also, Alien. Holy crap, Alien. This movie scares the bejeebus out of me. So tense, so suspenseful. The monster could be absolutely anywhere at any time, and you can't see it until it wants you to. How could anyone handle being on that ship while that thing is running loose?

Serpentine
2011-10-02, 09:59 PM
You might like PontypoolOh yeah! Great movie. Really great.

Comrade
2011-10-02, 10:33 PM
I wouldn't call Eraserhead "scary" so much as "OH GOD THE **** IS HAPPENING".

Basically. Eraserhead is the ultimate movie mind ****.

EDIT: Hummm. I have seen some damn creepy Japanese Horror movies--Infection, Cursed, Marebito, Noroi. That **** can get pretty damn trippy.

McStabbington
2011-10-02, 11:57 PM
Hah! Good one.

I slipped that one in there just to see if anyone was paying attention, but it actually is pretty unnerving. I actually referred to "The Descent" as "the second-most terrifying movie of 2006" for a while there.

I will second The Mist, if for no other reason than because it has one of the most brutal gut punches in cinematic history at the end. I won't spoil it beyond that, other than to say that I've never seen a movie carry its logic to the end quite as thoroughly and horrifically. If I had to rank horror movies over the last ten years or so, that would probably go right behind Let the Right One In (3), Frailty (2) and The Descent (1).

Bhu
2011-10-03, 12:11 AM
Basically. Eraserhead is the ultimate movie mind ****.

EDIT: Hummm. I have seen some damn creepy Japanese Horror movies--Infection, Cursed, Marebito, Noroi. That **** can get pretty damn trippy.

Have you seen the unrated version of Antichrist?

It's kind of like Saw, if Saw were a less gory porn film starring Willem Dafoe, and written by an art film student after having eaten bad mushrooms.

Comrade
2011-10-03, 12:21 AM
Have you seen the unrated version of Antichrist?

It's kind of like Saw, if Saw were a less gory porn film starring Willem Dafoe, and written by an art film student after having eaten bad mushrooms.

I have not.

Having read the description of it on wikipedia, however...

Your description sounds more or less spot on :v

I find it interesting they were going to make a video game based on it.

Serpentine
2011-10-03, 01:03 AM
Have you seen the unrated version of Antichrist?

It's kind of like Saw, if Saw were a less gory porn film starring Willem Dafoe, and written by an art film student after having eaten bad mushrooms.I thought about mentioning that, but was undecided - mostly on genre.
I swear to God, watching the first 15 minutes of it I thought it was a parody of pretentious movies. A great movie, but oh my God the pretension. It doesn't drip with it, it's been soaking in it for the last few days.

Shadow of the Sun
2011-10-03, 01:07 AM
Oh! Just remembered another one!

Audition, by Takashi Miike. Very psychological, with a bit of gore thrown in, coz that's how Miike rolls.

Kiri kiri kiri...

Comrade
2011-10-03, 01:12 AM
Oh! Just remembered another one!

Audition, by Takashi Miike. Very psychological, with a bit of gore thrown in, coz that's how Miike rolls.

Kiri kiri kiri...

Oh god that movie.

Oh god.

Avilan the Grey
2011-10-03, 02:06 AM
Most "Horror" movies tend to be either stupid in premise or simply go for "gory" instead of "scary" which is two totally different things. And I am not a fan of the Japanese horror trend.

I would second Alien, which really is the only horror movie I really really enjoy for all the right reasons (as opposed to "Ooh Boobies!"* or "GOD that's funny!").

The original Shining (not the horrible thing that mr King did himself, to "make it right").

The original Night of the living dead.

The Thing.


*This was of course the biggest reason we rented horror movies as teens; it was socially accepted to watch horror movies with a lot of nudity in them but our parents would not have accepted us renting an actual porno

Bhu
2011-10-03, 02:13 AM
I thought about mentioning that, but was undecided - mostly on genre.
I swear to God, watching the first 15 minutes of it I thought it was a parody of pretentious movies. A great movie, but oh my God the pretension. It doesn't drip with it, it's been soaking in it for the last few days.

I know. But then you get to the third act...:smalleek:


Most "Horror" movies tend to be either stupid in premise or simply go for "gory" instead of "scary" which is two totally different things. And I am not a fan of the Japanese horror trend.


Are there any asian horror/thrillerfilms you really like? I can suggest others based on your answer. The Japanese kinda twigged to the west watching their horror films because they were 'weird' and 'different' so they've been making ever more bizarre stuff in an effort to market to that fanbase. There's still good films being made

Starwulf
2011-10-03, 02:39 AM
You might like Pontypool

OMG! Wow, someone else who has seen that particular zombie-flick(well, sorta zombie-flick). When I first watched it, I was just like... "Wow, what in the hell is going on". It was definitely kinda out there ^^

Avilan the Grey
2011-10-03, 03:38 AM
Are there any asian horror/thrillerfilms you really like? I can suggest others based on your answer. The Japanese kinda twigged to the west watching their horror films because they were 'weird' and 'different' so they've been making ever more bizarre stuff in an effort to market to that fanbase. There's still good films being made

That seems depressingly logical.
But no, I didn't like any of the ones I have seen. I guess I don't "get" them, but that seems symptomatic for me and modern Japanese culture. I have a very hard time enjoying most Anime and Manga, for example.

Yora
2011-10-03, 07:28 AM
It's kind of like Saw, if Saw were a less gory porn film starring Willem Dafoe

That man is a modern Klaus Kinski with not such a huge amount of crazy. :smallbiggrin:



Even though I am easily made uncomfortable, I never saw Alien as a horror movie. Sure, it's a dark sci-fi movie and now that so many people have claimed it, I kind of see how this could be a horror movie. But I never found it that scary.
But then, I grew up on the Borg and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In that contect, the alien is just another monster I see on TV.

The Thing is a few steps up, but it's still just a monster. Alien life forms are not scary. Disgusting, sure, but not scary. The same thing with the Stalker games. Lots of people say they have scary portions, but when you know from the beginning that the spooky things are explained by natural phenomenons or creatures that just havn't been known to science yet, it's not scary to me.

Melayl
2011-10-03, 09:08 AM
The only movies I can currently recall that have actually scared me are Steven King's It (the first half, anyway), and The First Power.

The Succubus
2011-10-03, 09:13 AM
Ardent J-Horror fan here.

Yes, I feel that the American remakes of Ringu & Ju-On were largely unnecessary (Ju-On slightly less so as it's made by the same director, just retranslated into American). Ringu is the most terrifying film I have ever seen, ever.

One that often gets overlooked is another film by the same director of Ringu, called Dark Water. Very unhappy ending though but if you want creepy then go with it.

As many people have pointed out here "creepy" horror is a very different kettle of fish to "jumpy" horror. Jumpy horror is short term scares and over all I find less effective at scaring me. Creepy horror, on the other hand, is insidious, it takes place in realisitic settings and has a horrible inevitability to it. Even just thinking about *that* sound from Ringu together with the final scene literally turns my blood cold. :smalleek:

However, Western cinema can also do creepy horror. It's a much rarer beast than J-Horror but can be equally as terrifying. Paranormal Activity (the first one) is a good example.

Jan Mattys
2011-10-03, 09:14 AM
Do you consider "Rosemary's Baby" a horror movie?

Because it left me with a distinct unsettling feeling, but as far as I recall, there's very little "horror" in it.

Scarlet Knight
2011-10-03, 09:35 AM
Some episodes of Space: 1999.

I would like to say Dracula (several films) but stories with Dracula easily becomes more like romantic adventures rather than pure horror. Haven't seen the first Dracula film (or the preceding Nosferatu, or the re-make from the 70's with Klaus Kinski).

Frankenstein. At least the one with Robert de Niro.



Can you watch an old movie and not be put off by the fact that it's old & therefore you know not only the ending but the parodies? If so, there is a reason you will see these movies in film class , because without exploding special effects, they rely on plot & atmosphere.

Frankenstein with Boris Karloff still holds up well.

Dracula with Bela Lugosi

Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde with either Frederic March or Spencer Tracy.

If you consider King Kong a horror movie, the original with Fay Wray ranks up with the finest movies of all time of any genre.

Bhu
2011-10-03, 01:37 PM
That seems depressingly logical.
But no, I didn't like any of the ones I have seen. I guess I don't "get" them, but that seems symptomatic for me and modern Japanese culture. I have a very hard time enjoying most Anime and Manga, for example.

It helps to understand various cultural bits when watching asian horror films a a lot of whats going on is somehow tied to religions, myth, or pop culture. They're like films with a lot of in-jokes. If you get the joke, you probably like the film. If not you kinda wonder why that damn fool is covering the walls in red tape while peeing himself.


Do you consider "Rosemary's Baby" a horror movie?

Because it left me with a distinct unsettling feeling, but as far as I recall, there's very little "horror" in it.


I would. WIki defines horror movies as "Horror films are unsettling movies that strive to elicit the emotions of fear, disgust and horror from viewers." I'd add disturbed to that list. I remember an interview with one of the German horror film makers (I think it was Jorg Buttgereit) who basically said if audiences left a horror film without feeling like they needed a shower or a stiff drink the director hadn't done his job.

H Birchgrove
2011-10-03, 04:00 PM
Oh! Speaking of Rosemary's Baby (which I haven't seen yet), I was scared by The Omen, the one directed by Richard Donner.


Can you watch an old movie and not be put off by the fact that it's old & therefore you know not only the ending but the parodies? If so, there is a reason you will see these movies in film class , because without exploding special effects, they rely on plot & atmosphere.

Hmm... yes and no. Depends on the mood etc.

Two of my friends are impossible to learn how great classic films can be. :smallsigh:


Frankenstein with Boris Karloff still holds up well.

Dracula with Bela Lugosi

I hope so! :smallsmile:


Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde with either Frederic March or Spencer Tracy.

I saw the one with Ingrid Bergman many moons ago, it was scary, and the end (which wasn't in the novel) creeped me out. Unfortunately I got the "It was his sled" problem when I later read the novel...


If you consider King Kong a horror movie, the original with Fay Wray ranks up with the finest movies of all time of any genre.

I thought it more as Lost Lands sci-fi adventure in the Rider Haggard and Arthur C. Doyle tradition, but to each its own. Some parts were scary, I'll admit. Great movie anyway.

No brains
2011-10-03, 08:03 PM
Jesus Camp.

There's a saying. Normally it's said in horror, but in regards to this, it would just make you more scared...

"Oh, God..."

In fictional horror, Alien must be seen. Dead stop. Even the people making the movie got scared a few times. Veronica Cartwright wasn't acting when she reacted to Kain's death scene.:smalleek:

Also, while mainly funny, Dead Alive by Peter Jackson is pretty freaky. Mostly gory, but toward the end it gets truly horrific.

And again, The Thing, sans From Another World. Carpenter's 1982 film is amazing. Your mouth may fall open further than the monster's. Hawke's 1951 version falls a little flat because of the token post war glory and token romances that needed to be slapped onto any film of that age. Fair monster, tho.

Another less popular movie I caught once on SyFy (NO! NOT one of their originals!) is 100 Feet. It's a pretty spooky movie where a woman is under house arrest for killing her abusive husband, who continues to haunt her. One thing that makes it worth seeing is how the characters legitimately don't know how to react to the ghost.

Lastly, while it isn't their usual strong suit, some Disney movies can be pretty scary. Seriously. Some parts of Aladdin still freak me out!

Amiel
2011-10-03, 11:41 PM
The Korean A Tale of Two Sisters is an excellent horror film (with some jump scares).

Serpentine
2011-10-05, 02:55 AM
One that often gets overlooked is another film by the same director of Ringu, called Dark Water. Very unhappy ending though but if you want creepy then go with it.I wouldn't call it "very unhappy". More "bittersweet". Good movie, though.
More camp, The Call (I think it's called) is... entertaining.
A girl decapitates herself with her own arm! That is so cool!
The movie adaptation of Uzumaki/The Spiral is good, too. And Hansel and Gretel! I wanna watch that again...
Veronica Cartwright wasn't acting when she reacted to Kain's death scene.:smalleek:To be fair, they didn't actually tell her what they were going to do...

edit: Oh! I can't remember what it was called, and I didn't see the whole thing, but the prequel to Ringu is, in my opinion, very well done and I found it deeply unsettling - the people, not the monsters, were the disturbing ones.

Bhu
2011-10-05, 03:36 AM
Its called Ringu 0 in the US. Its also known as Ringu: Basudei i think

The Succubus
2011-10-05, 05:26 AM
The Korean A Tale of Two Sisters is an excellent horror film (with some jump scares).

I dunno - I have got it on DVD but found it very lacking compared to its Japanese counterparts. Koreans can do good horror films though - The Eye is a good example and there's another one about a military squad and some cursed place that's supposed to be really good as well but the name escapes me.

irenicObserver
2011-10-05, 09:34 AM
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the Fright Night remake was pretty good. It was actually a little scary and the humor it had didn't overwhelm it or seem out of place.

comicshorse
2011-10-05, 09:55 AM
I dunno - I have got it on DVD but found it very lacking compared to its Japanese counterparts. Koreans can do good horror films though - The Eye is a good example and there's another one about a military squad and some cursed place that's supposed to be really good as well but the name escapes me.

'R Point' fits that description

Orrmundur
2011-10-11, 10:28 AM
Oh! Just remembered another one!

Audition, by Takashi Miike. Very psychological, with a bit of gore thrown in, coz that's how Miike rolls.

Kiri kiri kiri...

This. By far the scariest movie I have ever seen. Just the thought of it gives me shivers.

I'd also recommend Red State by Kevin Smith. It was much better than I expected and I was pretty optimistic.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-11, 03:13 PM
Evil Dead trilogy
(the third one may not be specifically horror, but it's still awesome and my favorite film in the series!:smallbiggrin:)

The Succubus
2011-10-12, 05:58 AM
Evil Dead trilogy
(the third one may not be specifically horror, but it's still awesome and my favorite film in the series!:smallbiggrin:)

This man speaks truth. Only one word can truly describe the awesomeness of the Evil Dead trilogy and it begins with "G".

Avilan the Grey
2011-10-12, 07:21 AM
This man speaks truth. Only one word can truly describe the awesomeness of the Evil Dead trilogy and it begins with "G".

Why did we Europeans get the sucky "out if the frying pan into the fire" depressing ending of the last movie?

Zen Monkey
2011-10-12, 06:51 PM
Good:
Alien/Aliens
The Descent
The Thing
Jacob's Ladder
Event Horizon

Not as Good (but I like them anyway):
Resident Evil
Silent Hill
In the Mouth of Madness

No brains
2011-10-12, 07:50 PM
You might want to shift into an alternate reality where the 1999 The Haunting remake doesn't exist if you want non-horrible horror. IF the Nostalgia Critic is to be believed.

comicshorse
2011-10-12, 08:09 PM
Why did we Europeans get the sucky "out if the frying pan into the fire" depressing ending of the last movie?

I heard because that was actually the ending the director wanted but the studio thought american audiences would want a happy ending
Though I'm European and I prefered the S-Mart ending

The Succubus
2011-10-13, 04:15 AM
I did hear that he was planning to make an Evil Dead 4 but I suspect it's just a legend. I doubt any of the original crew would still be able to do it now.

Metahuman1
2011-10-13, 05:00 PM
The Silence of the Lambs. Buffalo Bill was scary. Dr. Hannibal Lector was TERRIFYING!

Triscuitable
2011-10-13, 06:14 PM
May (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_(film)). 10char

I think I just cried. I really love cats.

Bhu
2011-10-13, 08:05 PM
I did hear that he was planning to make an Evil Dead 4 but I suspect it's just a legend. I doubt any of the original crew would still be able to do it now.

They're doing a remake of the Evil Dead. Ash will not be a character as they wish to go in a different direction. Bruce Campbell may or may not be in it.

http://www.slashfilm.com/bruce-campbell-evil-dead-remake-ash/

Bearpunch
2011-10-13, 09:01 PM
remake of the Evil Dead.


Ash will not be a character

... I'm sorry... WHAT?!

The Succubus
2011-10-14, 05:59 PM
... I'm sorry... WHAT?!

This does not compute.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-14, 06:02 PM
This man speaks truth. Only one word can truly describe the awesomeness of the Evil Dead trilogy and it begins with "G".

GROOVY!:smallwink::smallbiggrin:

H Birchgrove
2011-10-14, 06:16 PM
The Silence of the Lambs. Buffalo Bill was scary. Dr. Hannibal Lector was TERRIFYING!

Manhunter by Michael Mann is awesome as well, with awesome 80's music.

Listen to your heartbeat...

Bhu
2011-10-15, 01:17 AM
... I'm sorry... WHAT?!

sowwy but it is true. The article doesnt fill me with hope...

Serpentine
2011-10-15, 01:31 AM
Go watch My Name Is Bruce to recover.

Nepenthe
2011-10-15, 08:27 PM
Most of this has already been said but:

Event Horizon
Hellraiser (one, two and five. Skip the rest unless you really like the mythos)
Saw (just the first, unless you like the mythos)
Devil's Backbone (seriously. Watch it.)
Cigarette Burns (never "got" horror until I saw this)
The Incredible Torture Show (redeems the entire torture porn sub-genre)
The Descent
Perfume (debatably horror. Great movie regardless.)
Recycle (every woman needs to watch this movie)
Antichrist (has the single most disturbing thing you'll see in a horror film. Then tops itself a few minutes later)

Marillion
2011-10-15, 09:57 PM
Having rewatched Black Swan...Black Swan.

Bhu
2011-10-15, 11:25 PM
Most of this has already been said but:

Event Horizon
Hellraiser (one, two and five. Skip the rest unless you really like the mythos)
Saw (just the first, unless you like the mythos)
Devil's Backbone (seriously. Watch it.)
Cigarette Burns (never "got" horror until I saw this)
The Incredible Torture Show (redeems the entire torture porn sub-genre)
The Descent
Perfume (debatably horror. Great movie regardless.)
Recycle (every woman needs to watch this movie)
Antichrist (has the single most disturbing thing you'll see in a horror film. Then tops itself a few minutes later)

I second most of these (cause I havent seen some of them).

No brains
2011-10-15, 11:30 PM
Having rewatched Black Swan...Black Swan.

I thought it weird that movie got onto the cover of Fangoria, but now...

TheArsenal
2011-10-20, 05:22 PM
Well generally any episode of the Courage cowardly dog.

Seriously when a episode of kids shows have more quality then modern horor movies.

Your not Perfect.:eek:

It even uses crappy CGI for great effect.

No brains
2011-10-20, 10:12 PM
While they might still be horrible horror movies, the episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000 cut into their crap with rapier wit!

Though be warned, Manos The Hands of Fate is pretty impenetrable with even a masterwork riff track.

Marillion
2011-10-22, 12:09 AM
If John Dies At The End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my9Pr-W92SM) is nearly as good as the book it is based on, it will be one of these.

OHMYGODSOEXCITED

thubby
2011-10-22, 06:07 AM
maybe its just my odd tastes (i have many of them), but i liked "white noise"
as far as premises go its not a huge stretch, and the implications are more than a bit disturbing.