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danzibr
2011-10-11, 09:03 PM
I googled "giantitp favorite anime" and didn't find the thread! So... maybe there hasn't been a recent one. Anyways, now there is.

Just want to hear what everyone likes. I'm not a crazy anime person, but I've seen a good few. I currently am just watching Bleach. I think my favorite of all time goes to...

Fushigi Yuugi.

With many, many honorable mentions. So what are yours? I'm kind of fishing.

erikun
2011-10-11, 09:07 PM
It has been awhile since I watched the anime (and read the manga), but I absolutely adored His and Her Circumstances.

thubby
2011-10-11, 09:43 PM
angel beats!, as of now.
which is actually really out of character for me, considering my fondness for hellsing and the like.

dgnslyr
2011-10-11, 09:56 PM
My favorite anime is Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. It boderlines on parody of all mecha anime, with its absurdly large mechs fueled by pure willpower and fighting spirit, and completely over-the-top attacks. Probably worth watching if you're interested in action-packed anime. Also, the English dub is not bad, so points for that. It's even on youtube, for your viewing pleasure. yeah it's the only anime I've watched start to finish but that's besides the point because it's so ridonculously awesome

Haruki-kun
2011-10-11, 09:59 PM
I usually say Higurashi no naku koro ni is my favorite anime. Title is translated as "When they Cry", though it means "When the Cicadas Cry".

Nix Nihila
2011-10-11, 10:00 PM
I rather enjoy Mushishi and Hetalia: Axis Powers, although those may not be at all what you're looking for.

Derjuin
2011-10-11, 10:18 PM
Neon Genesis Evangelion, including the Rebuild. I'm a sucker for psychological exploration, mind-screw, genre deconstruction and tragedy :smallredface:.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-11, 10:38 PM
1. Samurai Champloo
2. FullMetal Alchemist
3. Gurren Lagann

Raistlin1040
2011-10-11, 11:43 PM
1. The Melancholy Of Haruhi Suzumiya
2. Death Note
3. Cowboy Bebop
4. Fullmetal Alchemist (The Original)

Mando Knight
2011-10-12, 12:14 AM
I just finished Super Dimension Fortress Macross (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuperDimensionFortressMacross), so I've kinda got that on my brain right now... though TTGL is also good.

Fri
2011-10-12, 04:46 AM
Great that we have more macross fans here!

As you can see from my sig, my preference for mecha shows is the macross series. And the three shows that I always bug people to watch are macross, patlabor, and planetes.

But my favourite series of all time is Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei. Particularly the first six episodes of the first season, it's my favourite six episodes of all time.

Kato
2011-10-12, 04:49 AM
Really, most often the first thing that comes to my mind is Gurren Lagann. It's just good, if you like that kind of stuff.
But I could post a much longer list, since there really are many and I always have a hard time deciding on stuff... Cowboy Bebop is genuinely entertaining, I like most stuff Sunrise throws at us... as for recent shows... the recent two seasoner Steins;Gate and Tiger&Bunny were pretty nice, too. I could keep going, as I said but I'll stop here.

Eldan
2011-10-12, 04:49 AM
Hmm. Ghost in the Shell is great, but has some parts I don't enjoy much.

Probably Cowboy Bebop and TTGL sharing first place.

Tengu_temp
2011-10-12, 05:48 AM
FLCL. 6 episodes of craziness, silly humour, over-the-top action scenes, incredibly awesome music, and surprisingly moving moments from time to time.

Yora
2011-10-12, 05:54 AM
Once again Eldan shows his great taste. :smallbiggrin:

I love Ghost in the Shell. The series is really good, but I like the first movie even better.

Feytalist
2011-10-12, 06:24 AM
I watched Ghost in the Shell: Innocence again just last night. I'd forgotten how good it was. And how awesome it looks, for something that came out in 2004. All three movies were pretty good, but the original is probably the best.

I honestly don't get everyone's infatuation with Melancholy of Haruhi. Is there something I'm missing? It's disjointed and akward, and Haruhi herself is just really annoying.

The best anime I've ever seen is Mushishi. The visuals, atmosphere, sounds and background music mesh perfectly. I love the premise, the art, and the subdued nature of the whole thing. It's really stunning.

Saikano also gets an honorable mention, as the one anime that actually made my all teary-eyed. Heh. A short but great little love story that just happens to have a war in the background with a mech-like superweapon. Who happens to be one of the main characters.

SlyGuyMcFly
2011-10-12, 07:19 AM
Currently I've got Samurai Champloo at the top of the list. But that's probably because I've watched it more recently than Cowboy Bebop. I tend to flip-flop between those two series.

Honorable mentions go to Mushishi, TTGL and FLCL.

Tengu_temp
2011-10-12, 07:21 AM
I honestly don't get everyone's infatuation with Melancholy of Haruhi. Is there something I'm missing? It's disjointed and akward, and Haruhi herself is just really annoying.

I'd say it's because the show is smart, very funny, and has characters that appear to be archetypes at a first glance but are actually deep and interesting. It has a big fanbase that overestimates how awesome it is and is often annoying, but all good things do.

Eldan
2011-10-12, 08:21 AM
Once again Eldan shows his great taste. :smallbiggrin:

I love Ghost in the Shell. The series is really good, but I like the first movie even better.

Personally, I like Innocence best.

As for Haruhi. I watched it and found it... boring, I guess? Boring for the most part and filled with character that were either utterly unlikeable (Haruhi herself and most of her troop) or just bland (almost everyone else).

Feytalist
2011-10-12, 08:40 AM
Innocence has more action scenes and slightly less philosophics than the original, and of course had a significant art upgrade. Some of those CG backgrounds are stunning.


I unfortunately didn't enjoy Samurai Champloo as much as I otherwise might have. I was expecting another Cowboy Bebop, and it just... wasn't. I really enjoyed Bebop's aesthetic, but Champloo's grated on me.

Speaking of which, I can't help but wonder how the Cowboy Bebop live-action is going to turn out.

Terraoblivion
2011-10-12, 09:07 AM
What is so good about Haruhi? A number of things. On a basic level it's plain well-made, the animation and voice acting are both quite good for a tv anime, for example. More importantly, because it manages to at once tell a fairly complex story about growing up, maturing and trying to reconcile your hopes and dreams with a world that's honestly kinda boring, while also being stuffed with references, clever lines and plain funny jokes.

It does do this with a fair bit of subtlety. If you don't pay attention to things like facial expressions or nuances of tone of voice, you'll never really recognize any of what goes on with Kyon and Haruhi and how they really think and feel.

And, yes, it is my favorite anime ever. Although, Puella Magi Madoka Magica gets quite close.

Yora
2011-10-12, 09:20 AM
I watched Ghost in the Shell: Innocence again just last night. I'd forgotten how good it was. And how awesome it looks, for something that came out in 2004. All three movies were pretty good, but the original is probably the best.
:smallyuk: There are only two movies!!! :smallmad:

I really, really hate Solid State Society from the depth of my soul. It does have a few nice action scenes, but the plot is pointless and the ending completely removed everything that the original manga was about, and that the other movies did not contradict.
Solid State Society ranks for me at the same level as Start Trek Insurection.

Damn, I hate that movie. It's worse than George Lucas constantly re-editing the Star Wars movies. :smallbiggrin:

My first anime was Rune Soldier, and I still love it.
Louie punch!!!

Feytalist
2011-10-12, 09:39 AM
Heh. Well, to be fair, Solid State Society was a continuation of Stand Alone Complex, so had very little to do with the other two movies. I enjoyed it, because it tacked on a fairly decent ending onto 2nd Gig. As you said, it has nothing to do with the manga, but the series was still enjoyable enough to not distract from the original.

As for Haruhi, I understand that most of it is personal preference. But to me, the art and audio is adequate at best. It's certainly nothing like Noein, for instance. As for the characterisation, I didn't find it clever or nuanced at all. Someone tried much too hard to bring across quirky, but I think it just fell flat. But, as I said, it probably depends on the viewer. I tend to like the more introspective, subdued series, which this certainly isn't.

Edit: Well, that's not entirely true. I definitely liked FLCL as well :smallbiggrin:

Terraoblivion
2011-10-12, 09:54 AM
I wasn't really talking about the artstyle. I was talking about the technical quality and the effort that went into it. Just look at how much time is spent making sure exactly the correct objects for when an episode takes place are present in the clubroom or how elaborate the movements of Yuki and the bassist fingers are during the concert in episode 12. Whether you like the style or not, it would be unfair to deny the skill or effort which went into it. The same applies to the voice acting, though I'm less skilled at keeping track of that so I can't quite as easily point to specific examples. Still, go watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kA4tGu60mo&feature=fvwrel) and tell me that the technical quality of the animation isn't that high.

Yora
2011-10-12, 10:05 AM
Heh. Well, to be fair, Solid State Society was a continuation of Stand Alone Complex, so had very little to do with the other two movies. I enjoyed it, because it tacked on a fairly decent ending onto 2nd Gig. As you said, it has nothing to do with the manga, but the series was still enjoyable enough to not distract from the original.
Both seasons of the series could be regarded as playing before the two movies without there being any contradictions. It all doesn't contradict the manga either.
SSS even seems to take place after the event of the two movies. But then it decides that the defining element which was the entire point of the manga and the first movie, that was build on in the second movie, was boring, and then it tags on an ending that says "Nah, that wasn't really important. Let's make everything as it was in the beginning again." All the character development gets dumped over board for no reason at all. What a huge disappointment. I saw it once and sold the DVD on ebay, and since then pretend it doesn't exist.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-12, 10:31 AM
1. Samurai Champloo
2. FullMetal Alchemist
3. Gurren Lagann

4. Cowboy Bebop
5. Trigun
6. FLCL
7. Sword of the Stranger

Eldan
2011-10-12, 11:17 AM
It does do this with a fair bit of subtlety. If you don't pay attention to things like facial expressions or nuances of tone of voice, you'll never really recognize any of what goes on with Kyon and Haruhi and how they really think and feel.
.

No... no, I think I got most of that. I just didn't see why I should really care, to be honest. And the story didn't feel particularly deep to me either. There's tons of stories about "people growing up" (I dislike the entire expression, really), and I didn't think this one had anything to say I hadn't heard before.
I mean, Haruhi is a bitch, and everyone around her is an utterly spineless punching bag. I couldn't stand those people.



Innocence has more action scenes and slightly less philosophics than the original, and of course had a significant art upgrade. Some of those CG backgrounds are stunning.


Yeah. I'm a big, big fan of what TVtropes calls Scenery Porn, which automatically puts this movie way, way up there. Also, Bato is a very interesting character.

Aotrs Commander
2011-10-12, 11:23 AM
Naruto1, probably, with Pokemon and Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha coming close behind.

Yeah, you can throw things now.



1Yes, even the filler arcs. In fact, especially some of the filler arcs.

CarpeGuitarrem
2011-10-12, 11:49 AM
Cowboy Bebop is one of my all-time favorites. It just has this beautiful aesthetic about it, and a great, matured story, touched with melancholy. There's a sort of lovely poetic listlessness about the whole thing, and the resolution feels perfect.

I'm almost finished with Baccano!, which is almost entirely different. It's crazy, non-chronological, somewhat psychotic (and highly violent in parts), and it's one of the best slam-bang bits of storytelling that I've seen, period, with very memorable characters.

I'm about two-thirds of the way through Tengu Teppu Gurren Lagan, which is a lot more than a parody. It's actually a good bit more sophisticated than it looks on the surface. It has a lot to say about masculinity, loyalty, and such...and it's epic.

Watching Death Note with people, about a third of the way through...and the intellectual gymnastics within it are just...crazy. It's awesome, though pretty dark, as you might expect a show about killing people to be.

Trigun is another one of those shows that, like TTGL, doesn't appear serious or deep at first, but which really delves into a look not only at the ethics of killing, but also an examination of human pain and the extent to which a person will push themselves for an ideal.

Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo is one of my all-time favorites. It's a lavish, LAVISH adaptation of the Dumas novel, both visually and plot-wise. Despite taking a few divergences from the story, and introducing more characters (it tells the story from Albert de Morcerf's point of view, and turns it more into a coming-of-age story), it still keeps the spirit of the novel, and spins it into a darkly gothic tale with a fascinating plot. It's also set in a mish-mash of 19th Century France and the distant future.

SlyGuyMcFly
2011-10-12, 11:57 AM
I unfortunately didn't enjoy Samurai Champloo as much as I otherwise might have. I was expecting another Cowboy Bebop, and it just... wasn't. I really enjoyed Bebop's aesthetic, but Champloo's grated on me.

I know a fair few who had this experience. The two series share a legion of superficial similarities, but are quite different in execution. It's a pity that turns a lot of folks off it, because Champloo's characters are excellently written and the action scenes are some of the best out there.

Tengu_temp
2011-10-12, 12:10 PM
No... no, I think I got most of that. I just didn't see why I should really care, to be honest. And the story didn't feel particularly deep to me either. There's tons of stories about "people growing up" (I dislike the entire expression, really), and I didn't think this one had anything to say I hadn't heard before.
I mean, Haruhi is a bitch, and everyone around her is an utterly spineless punching bag. I couldn't stand those people.

See, this is a perfect example of missing the characterization of the people in that show, because it's shown subtly and not in-your-face. Haruhi is an unlikable character, but over time the story tells us more and more why she is that way, to let us at least understand her better, though not necessarily like. Kyon faces a dilemma: he desires a normal life on one hand, but on the other he enjoys all the antics that happen around him, even though he's not willing to admit it to himself. The other three are secret agents sent ny their organizations to fulfill their agendas, which forces them to go along with Haruhi's whims and cope with them (and not always succeed). There are strong hints that even Mikuru's spinelessness is just a mask.

And this is just the short version, without going in-depth into any of the specific characters, and from someone who hasn't really read the novels (which deepen the characterization further). Haruhi is a perfect example of a smarly-written show that might appear cliche on the surface but is actually really well thought-out... And all of this is not even my main reason for liking it. The main reason is that it's very funny. It's probably in my top 3 anime, together with FLCL and TTGL.

danzibr
2011-10-12, 12:42 PM
Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo is one of my all-time favorites. It's a lavish, LAVISH adaptation of the Dumas novel, both visually and plot-wise. Despite taking a few divergences from the story, and introducing more characters (it tells the story from Albert de Morcerf's point of view, and turns it more into a coming-of-age story), it still keeps the spirit of the novel, and spins it into a darkly gothic tale with a fascinating plot. It's also set in a mish-mash of 19th Century France and the distant future.
I was always tempted to watch this.

Anyways, for more of my list, I also like (in no particular order):
Death Note
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Bleach
Berserk (hey, they're finally making season 2)
Hellsing (hey, they're doing Hellsing Ultimate)
Kenichi
FLCL
FMA
et cetera

I can think of a lot I've seen which shouldn't go on the list... yeah. I made a list of all the anime I've seen, but I lost it. Drat.

Eldan
2011-10-12, 12:54 PM
See, this is a perfect example of missing the characterization of the people in that show, because it's shown subtly and not in-your-face. Haruhi is an unlikable character, but over time the story tells us more and more why she is that way, to let us at least understand her better, though not necessarily like. Kyon faces a dilemma: he desires a normal life on one hand, but on the other he enjoys all the antics that happen around him, even though he's not willing to admit it to himself. The other three are secret agents sent ny their organizations to fulfill their agendas, which forces them to go along with Haruhi's whims and cope with them (and not always succeed). There are strong hints that even Mikuru's spinelessness is just a mask.

And this is just the short version, without going in-depth into any of the specific characters, and from someone who hasn't really read the novels (which deepen the characterization further). Haruhi is a perfect example of a smarly-written show that might appear cliche on the surface but is actually really well thought-out... And all of this is not even my main reason for liking it. The main reason is that it's very funny. It's probably in my top 3 anime, together with FLCL and TTGL.

No, see, as I said: I get that. The put on masks, they have to put up with things, Haruhi is deeper than she appears, sure.

You know what? Having some deep motivation behind things is no excuse for her being a bitch. And just because everyone is a secret agent doesn't mean they have to put up with *everything*.

Cespenar
2011-10-12, 01:06 PM
My favorite anime is Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. My second favorite anime is the original Fullmetal Alchemist.

I'm probably not that sophisticated.

Terraoblivion
2011-10-12, 01:30 PM
You do realize that Haruhi grows into a better person as time passes on? And that she deeply cares for the other brigade members, despite how she shows it? Both are made pretty clear over the first season and it follows her development in the books, despite the relapse and added jerkishness of Sigh. By Disappearance or even just Live Alive, she just isn't a very bad person anymore even if she still doesn't really get social norms.

Eldan
2011-10-12, 01:38 PM
I admit that I've only seen the first season, but I never saw any inclination of her stopping to be loud, obnoxious and abusive. I think we certainly saw more of her character, but I don't think I saw much change.

Talya
2011-10-12, 02:49 PM
I am not an Anime fan. That said, there are several that I have notably loved.

Harmony Gold's Robotech series: (although I must admit "Jack McKinney's" novels handled it better than the cartoons.) Loved them as a kid, and were also my introduction to tabletop roleplaying (with Palladium's Robotech RPG.)

Appleseed: Outstanding movie.

Avatar: The Last Airbender: I suppose this might not count. Avatar is immitation anime, being American in origin and design. Still, very well done.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-12, 04:49 PM
1. Samurai Champloo
2. FullMetal Alchemist
3. Gurren Lagann

4. Cowboy Bebop
5. Trigun
6. FLCL
7. Sword of the Stranger

8. Cowboy Bebop the Movie
9. Yu Yu Hakusho
10. Afro Samurai

Soras Teva Gee
2011-10-12, 05:58 PM
My favorite manga should be self evident.

However as it lacks a worthy and comprehensive animated element the spot is held by the also incredibly worthy Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-12, 06:14 PM
My favorite manga should be self evident.

The Samurai Pizza Cats?:smalltongue:

Soras Teva Gee
2011-10-12, 06:17 PM
The Samurai Pizza Cats?:smalltongue:

That would be a comic. And everyone knows Cat Ninja Legend Teyandee sucked.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-12, 06:19 PM
That would be a comic. And everyone knows Cat Ninja Legend Teyandee sucked.

Dude, what are you talking about? It was the greatest concept ever!:smallwink::smalltongue:

Soras Teva Gee
2011-10-12, 06:39 PM
Dude, what are you talking about? It was the greatest concept ever!:smallwink::smalltongue:

Sure sure, keep telling yourself that.

Dr.Epic
2011-10-12, 06:42 PM
Sure sure, keep telling yourself that.

I will. Also, Birdemic is the second greatest film ever made. What's number 1?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/The_Last_Airbender_Poster.png

M. Night Shyamalan is a genius!:smallwink:

Mando Knight
2011-10-12, 07:50 PM
...I don't know whether I should be smirking or facedesking at the moment.

dgnslyr
2011-10-12, 08:31 PM
I think he speaks for us all when he says,
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/4/1240265992468.jpg
Sarcasm is pretty tricky to differentiate from seriousness through text, so it's polite to assume the saner of the two.

Lord Seth
2011-10-12, 10:03 PM
BoBoBo-Bo Bo-BoBo isn't just my favorite anime, it's my favorite show period.

Hida Reju
2011-10-12, 10:27 PM
Black Lagoon - Gritty, action filled, and has a way of showing you the whole spectrum of black, white, and grey morality.

maximus25
2011-10-12, 10:30 PM
1. Tengen Topa Gurren Lagann

2. Full metal Alchemist: Brotherhood

3. Bleach

4. Soul Eater.

Leecros
2011-10-12, 10:37 PM
Excel Saga

...What?:smalltongue:


Well, The first season of Pokemon will always be one of my favorites, along with Digimon Adventure...you know the one with the amazing theme song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6gaeJkLNWE)(who couldn't love that) and before the series became...in my opinion...weird. Of course both of these series i watched when i was younger and i enjoyed them. I would probably still enjoy them if i watched them again thanks to nostalgia glasses.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/SuperSaiyanBowser/Motivational%20Posters/MotivationalNostalgiaGlasses.jpg

I also enjoyed Tsubasa Chronicle...and after reading the manga was greatly disappointed that they didn't continue it.

hmm...What else.

I enjoyed Soul Eater, but i was disappointed with the ending. As Were We All

I recently started watching Slayers and am really enjoying it, but i guess i can't really say that it's one of my 'favorite' anime since i haven't finished it...


Special Mention goes to .Hack//Sign for existing back when .hack// was actually pretty good.

Derjuin
2011-10-12, 10:46 PM
Birdemic

Yes! Someone else who has heard of and/or watched it!!

Though I don't think mine counted since it was all RiffTrax. :smalltongue: Driving and parking jokes have never been more populous!

Besides NGE, I also liked Cowboy Bebop and FLCL, and I'm kind of on the edge about TTGL and When the Cicadas Cry. Those are really the only ones that come to mind though...

Nix Nihila
2011-10-12, 10:53 PM
And, yes, it is my favorite anime ever. Although, Puella Magi Madoka Magica gets quite close.

Ooh. I forgot about Puella Magi Madoka Magica. Very good, although I felt the end should've been more tragic. It was too upbeat.

As for Haruhi, I like it, but I do think it's a bit overrated.

Out of curiosity, what do you all think of Lucky Star? It amuses me, but it's not one of my favorites. It seems like most people I know either love it or hate it.

Feytalist
2011-10-13, 02:14 AM
Both seasons of the series could be regarded as playing before the two movies without there being any contradictions. It all doesn't contradict the manga either.

I seem to remember it being explicitly stated that Stand Alone Complex existed in a parallel timeline of the original Ghost in the Shell, or somesuch. I've always just regarded SAC, 2nd Gig and SSS as one whole, and the original and Innocence as another. But as you said, the original was the better series. Oh, and I must admit, I've only ever read the first volume of the manga.


See, this is a perfect example of missing the characterization of the people in that show, because it's shown subtly and not in-your-face. Haruhi is an unlikable character, but over time the story tells us more and more why she is that way, to let us at least understand her better, though not necessarily like.

See, this is what I was talking about. People will defend Haruhi to the death with all the vehemence of a fanatic. But fine. I just really disliked the show.


I agree with Gankutsuou. It's a great story, with some great art. Plus, it has Alcuard as the Count. I could watch it simply for his voice, heh. The art style is a bit difficult to get used to at first, but it's really really pretty. Oh, and the story is good too. But, come on, it's Count of Monte Cristo, what did you expect?

A minor note: I know I'm being pedantic, but the Cowboy Bebop movie was called Knockin' on Heaven's Door. :smallsmile:

Terraoblivion
2011-10-13, 04:51 AM
Let me get this straight, Feytalist. You ask people to explain why they like Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya? People do so and you say that they're wrong and it's objectively bad, then when people try to defend their opinion and do so politely they're fanatics? I dunno, to me it looks more like you are the obsessive one, especially since you didn't really argue your case, opting instead to make some absolute statements about the quality of the series.

Feytalist
2011-10-13, 06:35 AM
Well. I was mostly wondering why people seem to defend it with so much fervor, which you have adequately demonstrated. I have already stated why I personally dislike it, and I won't retread old ground.

So, fine. It's a good show. I just don't get it. You can now relax again.

Yora
2011-10-13, 06:38 AM
I seem to remember it being explicitly stated that Stand Alone Complex existed in a parallel timeline of the original Ghost in the Shell, or somesuch. I've always just regarded SAC, 2nd Gig and SSS as one whole, and the original and Innocence as another. But as you said, the original was the better series. Oh, and I must admit, I've only ever read the first volume of the manga.
I've read this a couple of times as well, but the series and the movies don't contradict each other in any way, and SSS seems to reference the movies. No idea what this claim is coming from.


Appleseed: Outstanding movie.
Really? I like Appleseed a lot, both the manga and the two new movies. But the stories of the movies are really... well stupid. Really cool movies, but stupid. :smallbiggrin:

Eldan
2011-10-13, 07:37 AM
I've read this a couple of times as well, but the series and the movies don't contradict each other in any way, and SSS seems to reference the movies. No idea what this claim is coming from.

I think it's actually from the creators themselves.

Soras Teva Gee
2011-10-13, 08:05 AM
I've read this a couple of times as well, but the series and the movies don't contradict each other in any way, and SSS seems to reference the movies. No idea what this claim is coming from.

While not as blatant as other cases in existence this is so. Stand Alone Complex represents its own timeline.

You can tell by the think-tanks and their comings and goings, the Tachikoma designs are distinct to the S.A.C. timeline. Well there is a manga presence base but we are talking about animation here. Also Solid State Society sees a unique expansion of Section 9 that cannot be resolved with being before the Puppetmaster case. And all of it must be before that case do to the very very fundamental changes said case means for the Major.

Referencing is not the same as sharing continuity. Mostly they reference the manga anyways, the entire plot of Innocence is an adaptation of an story pre-dating the Puppetmaster case in manga timeline. In its odd way though a unique series of event S.A.C. is much more representative of the tone of the manga, the movies conveying a much greater sense of ennui then their source material.

And one of these days maybe somebody is going to try and adapt Ghost in the Shell 2: Man-Machine Interface from the manga.... whoo boy.

Feytalist
2011-10-13, 08:18 AM
I think it's actually from the creators themselves.

That's what I thought too. Strangely, I can't actually find a source for that at this moment. But yeah, some elements in the SAC series are not present in the originals.


Oh! Oh! I almost forgot: Ergo Proxy is another brilliant anime. It's delightfully mind-screwy. I do enjoy the level of detail they added to the story and it's philosophical parts. And it looks good too.

Speaking of mind screw, I also enjoyed Paranoia Agent. It was just... weird. And disturbing. As is everything from Satoshi Kon, really. Perfect Blue is another good example.

Eldan
2011-10-13, 09:29 AM
Ergo Proxy... I really liked it in the beginning, but I thought it actually got weaker with every episode. Too much of it seemed disconnected to the main story, or, sometimes, just random. Which might be because I didn't really bother looking up the references, of course.

Nepenthe
2011-10-13, 08:04 PM
No one mentioned Boogiepop Phantom? I love the interlocking story lines, and how it keeps you guessing until the very end. The reveal doesn't come completely out of left field though, so you don't feel cheated.

Also, I was recently introduced to Higurashi no Naku Koro Ne (probably screwed that up). The first season is absolutely brilliant. I'm halfway through season two now and do not like where this is going.

Berserk is also really good if you haven't read the manga; if you have it's redundant.

danzibr
2011-10-14, 11:10 AM
Hopefully people are still reading this...

I'm in need of help!

In particular, I caught up with Bleach again so I'm looking for another anime to watch. I've read the comments of others' favorites, but... not all are descriptive. In particular, I'm looking for an anime which is somewhat similar to, say,

Fushigi Yuugi, or Bleach, or Kenichi, or any other show like this.

I mean, looking at those three, you can see some threads which tie them together. Something with at least decent animation, some powers, some fighting, maybe some romance, et cetera.

Tengu_temp
2011-10-14, 01:27 PM
Seems that you want a good shonen series... In which case, look no further than Fullmetal Alchemist. It has two anime series - the first one and Brotherhood. Brotherhood follows the manga more closely, which means that it's much more awesome later, but at the same time it's kinda rushed at the beginning because they want to get to the point where it differs from the first one more quickly.

Mando Knight
2011-10-14, 02:54 PM
Super Dimension Fortress Macross.

Giant robots, space aliens, a love triangle, fighter jets that turn into giant robots, automated cola dispensers, and at the center of it all a rebuilt alien battlecruiser that can turn into an even bigger robot.

danzibr
2011-10-14, 05:23 PM
Seems that you want a good shonen series... In which case, look no further than Fullmetal Alchemist. It has two anime series - the first one and Brotherhood. Brotherhood follows the manga more closely, which means that it's much more awesome later, but at the same time it's kinda rushed at the beginning because they want to get to the point where it differs from the first one more quickly.
Dangit. I watched both FMAs and loved both of them. If only I could wipe my mind and watch them fresh....

I'll probably try that Super Dimension thingy. I also liked Gundam Wing but never finished the series. Hmm, yeah.

H Birchgrove
2011-10-14, 06:41 PM
TV:
Inspector Gadget (half-French though, not that I mind)

Movies:
1. Spirited Away
2. Porco Rosso
3. Howl's Moving Castle
4. My Neighbour Totoro
5. Kiki's Delivery Service
6. Metropolis
7. Steamboy
8. Tales from Earthsea

There are a few ones I don't remember the titles of, including:
1. one about a star in a girl band who quits her musical career and tries to become a famous actress in a crime show and starts to show signs of mental illness
2. one about a wolf and a sheep who become friends, despite opposite natures. *sniff* I think I got something in my eye...
3. one that was about how TV-anime is made (very droll!)

Mando Knight
2011-10-14, 06:51 PM
I'll probably try that Super Dimension thingy. I also liked Gundam Wing but never finished the series. Hmm, yeah.

A caveat: Macross is working towards its 30-year anniversary. If you don't like anything done before the turn of the millennium, this is one of those things. It is part of the bedrock on which later mecha anime is built, though.

Tengu_temp
2011-10-14, 07:13 PM
Dangit. I watched both FMAs and loved both of them. If only I could wipe my mind and watch them fresh....

How about some mecha, then? Macross is okay, but let me suggest two shows that are in my opinion the best in their categories:

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann - an extremely over-the-top show about two friends from a post-apocalyptic underground village who discover a drill-shaped mecha, use it to break to the surface, and face many challenges and slowly change the whole world through their determination. It has many incredibly awesome moments, the animation (except for the infamous episode 4) is very good and the soundtrack is excellent.

Full Metal Panic - a secret agent/mecha pilot receives an assignment of posing as a high schooler and guarding a girl with mysterious powers. Problem: he's been a soldier most of his young life and has no idea how normal people act. Hilarity ensues, but not only - the show also has a lot of action, both in mecha and on foot. After the initial season it got two sequels, the first of which focuses almost exclusively on high school shenanigans and the other on dramatic occurences and mecha action.

CarpeGuitarrem
2011-10-16, 03:44 PM
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann - an extremely over-the-top show about two friends from a post-apocalyptic underground village who discover a drill-shaped mecha, use it to break to the surface, and face many challenges and slowly change the whole world through their determination. It has many incredibly awesome moments, the animation (except for the infamous episode 4) is very good and the soundtrack is excellent.

Totally seconding this. Like FMA, TTGL takes crazy shounen action and starts winding deeper themes into it, and a bigger gravitas. It's just not quite as dark at all as FMA, and it's not nearly as serious.

jseah
2011-10-16, 04:44 PM
I dunno, I have never been able to treat shows that are action-driven fairly. (the best anime that is mainly action I've seen would be To Aru Kagaku no Railgun, and that's pretty far down) I demand too much consistency. (TTGL is right out)
Likewise, I absolutely hate dumb characters. (which is why I don't like Detroit Metal City) Watching people squirm isn't funny.
As always, I tend to over analyze things and demand more plot than an author can be expected to give. Emotional scenes score points but there's a glass ceiling for stories driven purely by those.

Therefore: (complete series only; spaces indicate a significant drop in quality)
1. Denno Coil - believable SF, raises philosophical points, excellent characterization and pacing
2. Horou Musuko - best characters I have seen ever, deals with a difficult issue seriously and does very well (transgender)

3. Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 - emotional impact through the roof, excellent characterization although it kinda fails at the end
4. Puella Magi Madoka Magica - incredible plot (if you followed the craze as it was aired), best overall style I've seen ever
5. Sketchbook - pays attention to the small things in life, nice comedy, slow and relaxed pacing

6. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya - sheer absurdity and daring to use such ridiculous premises and *get it to work*
7. Usagi Drop - excellent characters, deals with a rare theme (raising a child), good emotional impact (not overbearing like TM8.0)
8. Shiki - sheer insanity of doing a proper investigation on vampires, realistic treatment of reactions
9. Aoi Hana - simple sweet high-school romance, daring to treat homosexuality as a norm (2 girls pairing but absolutely no mention of any potential problems)
10. Gakuen Utopia Manabi Straight - energetic comedy, conveys boundless optimism (its a rare show that uses hope as the main emotion)

Almost theres:
Uta-Kata, Bakemonogatari, Taishou Yakyuu Musume, Yoku Wakaru Gendai Mahou

Movies or OVAs wise: (not in any particular order)
Time of Eve
Voices of a Distant Star
Candy Boy
Bungaku Shoujo
Naisho no Tsubomi
Kyo no Go no Ni - note on this one: the characters are children and the comedy is likewise innocent-ish; a rare insight into sexuality from the point of view of kids
Yotsunoha
5cm per second

SDF
2011-10-16, 07:02 PM
I (obviously) love Robotech/Macross, but I hated TTGL personally. RahXephon was a really good mecha anime. NGE was always one of my favorites, and 08th MS Team was a really good mecha series. Eureka Seven is also really good for a mecha series targeted at a younger audience.

FLCL might be my favorite anime. Story, animation, writing, music, voice acting, it is all top notch. I also enjoy Haruhi Suzumiya (except those episodes that kept repeating, talk about lazy writing), Black Lagoon, and Wolf's Rain as among my favorites.

Feytalist
2011-10-17, 03:30 AM
1. one about a star in a girl band who quits her musical career and tries to become a famous actress in a crime show and starts to show signs of mental illness

That was Perfect Blue from Satoshi Kon. Brilliant movie. Great mind screw. The Darren Aronofsky movie Black Swan was actually somewhat based off of Perfect Blue.


I'm going to keep on suggesting Noein until someone admits they've seen it.

For something very much like Evangelion but less depressing, I'd suggest Argento Soma, if you can get a hold of it. It's not very well known, and under-appreciated if you ask me. It has a very similar plot as NGE (to the extent that some scenes are ripped straight from NGE) but it was really quite well done. Its whole aesthetic is subdued and understated. And, as I mentioned, it has the upside of not being so soul-crushingly depressing.

While I'm on the topic of relatively unknown anime, I'd like to mention Scrapped Princess. It's a lighthearted fantasy story that switches into SF somewhere around the last third of the series. Standard teenage-girl-destined-to-destroy-the-universe fare. It's bright, mostly easy-going and a great little series to unwind to.

Dumbledore lives
2011-10-17, 03:47 AM
There are so many great shows out there it is really difficult to pick any single on as a favorite, but if I had to I'd say that Paranoia Agent, aside from the ending which I choose to interpret less than literally, it has such a weird and amazing concept that it has to be up there, and has some incredibly moving and powerful moments.

H Birchgrove
2011-10-17, 07:13 AM
That was Perfect Blue from Satoshi Kon. Brilliant movie. Great mind screw. The Darren Aronofsky movie Black Swan was actually somewhat based off of Perfect Blue.

Thank you! :smallsigh: :smallbiggrin:

Didn't know about the connection with Black Swan; it does make me more interested in watching that film. :smallamused:

Arcane_Snowman
2011-10-17, 08:25 AM
1: Wolf's Rain

From there it gets hazy:
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Serial Experiment Lain, FLCL, Baccano!, Ouran Host Club, My-Hime and Eureka 7 all rank very high on my list.

Honorable Mentions to:
Afro Samurai, Bakemonogatari, Clannad, Elfen Lied, Full Metal Alchemist, Gravitation, Hellsing, Howl's Moving Castle, Loveless, Mai Otome, Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Noein, Toradora and Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust.


I'm going to keep on suggesting Noein until someone admits they've seen it. Highlighted it, just for you :smallwink:

Feytalist
2011-10-18, 01:56 AM
Highlighted it, just for you :smallwink:

Heh, cool. I guess I can stop now. It does seem as if no-one else has even heard of it, though.

I do love Ouran. It's the one thing that regularly had me in stitches the first time I saw it. I think I even almost actually fell out of my chair laughing, once :smallbiggrin:

A movie that I also enjoyed and that I just thought of was Jin-Roh: Wolf's Brigade. It's really rather sad, but it does have a brilliant story. There were some talk of a live-action adaption actually, but I'm not sure if that will ever realise.

RuneboundShade
2011-10-20, 08:06 AM
My favorites list would have to go like this: (top eight at least.)

Gundam Seed: Just for it's sheer awesomeness, Gundam seed easily tops my list of favorites.

Death Note: Would have to be second, though only by a small margin, But it definitely is the best intelligence movie I've seen.

Nabari: Just because I think it's awesome.:smalltongue:

Zoids: Chaotic century: This would have to be my first favorite anime.

Fullmetal Alchemist: Do I really have to say anything?

Durarara: (I think that's how you spell it?) This one has to be my favorite multi-character anime.

Vampire Night: Just because zero's awesome.

Naruto: This gets on just because the action's cool, but the main character is still immature.:smallannoyed:

Also: I have seen Noein, atleast the first four or so episodes, not that it particularly impressed me.

Uryuu~Nipaa
2011-11-12, 10:34 AM
I have four favourites:

Axis Powers: Hetalia
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Death Note
Umineko no Naku Koro ni (but the VN it's based on is way better)

Ramza00
2011-11-12, 12:32 PM
Both seasons of the series could be regarded as playing before the two movies without there being any contradictions. It all doesn't contradict the manga either.
SSS even seems to take place after the event of the two movies. But then it decides that the defining element which was the entire point of the manga and the first movie, that was build on in the second movie, was boring, and then it tags on an ending that says "Nah, that wasn't really important. Let's make everything as it was in the beginning again." All the character development gets dumped over board for no reason at all. What a huge disappointment. I saw it once and sold the DVD on ebay, and since then pretend it doesn't exist.

I understand this post is a month old, but the anime takes place with section 9 being in Japan, while the first two movies takes place with section 9 being in Hong Kong.

They are truely different universes.

Dr.Epic
2011-11-12, 02:55 PM
Oh poo, I forgot to put Magical Shopping Arcade Abedonashi on the list. I haven't seen that show in ages and need to rewatch it one of these days.

danzibr
2011-11-12, 04:52 PM
So uhh, I'm watching both TTGL and X now and... what the smurf was with episode 4 of TTGL? I'm up to 8 now for both of them and the animation's good, but man, 4 was terrible.

On a side note, X totally reminds me of Fushigi Yuugi.

Mando Knight
2011-11-12, 04:58 PM
So uhh, I'm watching both TTGL and X now and... what the smurf was with episode 4 of TTGL? I'm up to 8 now for both of them and the animation's good, but man, 4 was terrible.

It's a mystery to everyone. I blame Gainax.

danzibr
2011-11-12, 05:42 PM
It's a mystery to everyone. I blame Gainax.
Are you referring to... this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZanXpotTVg)? WARNING: And just clinking on the link contains major spoilers if you haven't seen TTGL.

Mando Knight
2011-11-12, 07:03 PM
Are you referring to... this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZanXpotTVg)? WARNING: And just clinking on the link contains major spoilers if you haven't seen TTGL.

No, that's episode 8. Episode 4 is the hot springs incident.

danzibr
2011-11-12, 09:18 PM
I was just talking about your choice words, "I blame Gainax."

GloatingSwine
2011-11-12, 09:46 PM
No, that's episode 8. Episode 4 is the hot springs incident.

No, the Mandatory Hot Springs Episode is episode 6.

Episode 4 is the one with no budget.

Probably still Gainax' fault though.

Mando Knight
2011-11-12, 10:24 PM
No, the Mandatory Hot Springs Episode is episode 6.

Episode 4 is the one with no budget.

Probably still Gainax' fault though.
Oh, yeah. It is 6. Episode 4 introduces an important set of characters, though, so even though it is out there, at least it fits better than 6.

Also, the story of how Kittan got his Ganmen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzx_yijgx3c)/Gunman/whatever.

Viera Champion
2011-11-14, 05:06 PM
There are so many! I would have to categorize them. I can't just pick one!

Favorite Mecha:
Probably Code Geass or Star Driver.

Favorite Fighter:
Bleach, all the way.

Favorite Yaoi:
Sekaiichi Hatsukoi.

Favorite Shojo:
Ouran High School Host Club

Favorite Drama:
Anohana.

Krazzman
2011-11-16, 05:27 AM
Animes I enjoyed:

A

Avatar (The last airbender)

B

Beelzebub (Just started watching)
Berserk
Black Lagoon
Bleach
Black Cat
Black Heaven

C

Cowboy Bebop
Chrono Cross

D

Death Note (had some meh parts)
Digimon
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
Detroit Metal City
Devil May Cry
Darker Than Black

E

Elfenlaid (not sure with the spelling)

F

Full Metal Alchemist
FMA:Brotherhood (liked Brotherhood far more...just awesome)
Final Fantasy 7
Full Metal Panic (FUMOFFU!)
FLCL
Fairy Tail

G

Gantz
Gungrave

H

Hellsing
Hellsing Ultimate
Highschool of the Dead
Halo

I

Inuyasha

M

Megaman (could be Rockman.exe not sure if that is the proper english term)

N

Naruto
Naruto Shippuuden

O

One Piece

R

Record of Lodoss War

S

Samurai Champloo
Soul Eater
Slayers
Sonic
Speed Graphers
Sword of a Stranger

T

Trigun

V

Vampire Hunter D

W

Wolfs Rain
Witchblade

Will add more later.