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Adamantrue
2011-10-18, 12:42 PM
I am playing around with Swashbuckler ACFs (the Class Ability Equivalents (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=216778) chart I made helps), and I'm trying to mix & match abilities to make something interesting.

{table=head]Swashbuckler|Hit Die d10|{colsp=4}Skill Points: 4/level (x4 at 1st)
Level|Base Attack Bonus|Fort|Ref|Will|Special
1st|+1|+2|+0|+0|Weapon Finesse
2nd|+2|+3|+0|+0|Arcane Stunt 1
3rd|+3|+3|+1|+1|Insightful strike
4th|+4|+4|+1|+1|Seduction
5th|+5|+4|+1|+1|Shield of Blades+2
6th|+6/+1|+5|+2|+2|
7th|+7/+2|+5|+2|+2|Swift and Deadly
8th|+8/+3|+6|+2|+2|Pounce
9th|+9/+4|+6|+3|+3|Seduction +1
10th|+10/+5|+7|+3|+3|Shield of Blades +3
11th|+11/+6/+1|+7|+3|+3|Arcane Stunt 2, Lusty
12th|+12/+7/+2|+8|+4|+4|
13th|+13/+8/+3|+8|+4|+4|Acrobatic skill mastery, Seduction +2
14th|+14/+9/+4|+9|+4|+4|Weakening critical
15th|+15/+10/+5|+9|+5|+5|Shield of Blades +4, Seduction +2
16th|+16/+11/+6/+1|+10|+5|+5|
17th|+17/+12/+7/+2|+10|+5|+5|Slippery mind
18th|+18/+13/+8/+3|+11|+6|+6|Seduction +3
19th|+19/+14/+9/+4|+11|+6|+6|Wounding critical, Seduction +4
20th|+20/+15/+10/+5|+12|+6|+6|Shield of Blades +5, Arcane Stunt 3[/table]

Arcane Stunt: Complete Mage p32

Seduction: Web (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/cwc/20070227x) (I'm all about that kind of character)

Shield of Blades: Player's Handbook II p63

Swift and Deadly: Drow of the Underdark p59

Pounce: Complete Champion 46 (One of the Totem variants is identical to Improved Flanking, so its an even swap)

Soothing Voice: As Community Domain Granted Power, Spell Compendium p271 (Save is based on Intelligence Score) I figure this one needs more of an explanation...

People are fond of pointing out that the Lucky Class Feature is much like the Luck Domain Granted Power (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spellLists/clericDomains.htm#luckDomain), and lame because its something a 1st level Cleric could do.

I figure that, following the trade-out method I'm doing here, a Domain Granted Power is worth a Domain Granted Power, and picked something more suited to my playstyle & preferences.
Now...this variant isn't technically any more powerful, but it is more focused on two roles. The first is being a better Two-Weapon Fighter, provided I pick up the right Feats. Pounce is a HUGE ability to gain with this style, and the Shield of Blades and Swift and Deadly abilities support it nicely.

The second is being a sort of chatty character, in order to try and talk my way in-to or out-of the right situations. The Seduction ability is nice, and honestly right up my alley, letting me parody the genre & use alternative methods of solving problems. Soothing Voice plays into this further, giving me the bonus to Diplomacy & having a 1/day ability to snap people out of undesirable conditions (I imagine a quick 1-liner worthy of a Bruce Willis movie).

Modify Daring Outlaw a little, to let Arcane Stunt work in place of Grace, and I could be good.

How does this look? Is this something that you'd allow in your games (I'm thinking about including it in mine)?