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Flame of Anor
2011-11-22, 03:50 PM
Okay, so we see Therkla's father in #555. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0555.html) But it just occurred to me that he looked familiar. And so I checked it out...don't you think he looks a LOT like Mr. Grand Larceny? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0435.html) He even dresses similarly.

Anarion
2011-11-22, 03:55 PM
Hair is basically identical.
Shirt and pants are in a similar style, although Therkla's father as an evenly tailored open collar, whereas the thief has a rip in his shirt going down the chest.
Thief has 5 o'clock shadow, Therkla's dad does not.
Clothes and shoes are a different color, but more or less in the same style.

Conclusion: Highly unlikely to be the same person.

zimmerwald1915
2011-11-22, 03:57 PM
Comparing the two, they have exactly the same hair style, hair color, and non-stubble skin tone (R250, G214, B142). Which proves exactly nothing.

hamishspence
2011-11-22, 04:03 PM
Yup. That said, the absence of stubble on the Therkla's Dad pic doesn't really prove anything either- a recently released (on a temporary basis) prisoner might be expected to not have had the opportunity to shave, or smarten up.

And the pic of Therkla's dad is of when she was very young- time might also play a part.

So- there isn't really much evidence either way.

Draconi Redfir
2011-11-22, 04:21 PM
That plus limited stick-figure hair sometimes cigars are just cigars etc etc etc.


possible, but unlikely. Espesually unlikely to be relevent either way now that both Therkla and Larceny are dead.

The Pilgrim
2011-11-22, 05:30 PM
Therkla's father is perfectly shaven, while the Thief is clearly not.

So, not the same person.

Goosefarble
2011-11-22, 05:38 PM
Also a lot of the Azurites kinda look the same WHOARACISM. But you know what I mean. They do.

For all we know, The Guy With The Halberd is a different Guy With A Halberd in every panel!

Herpestidae
2011-11-22, 05:44 PM
Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes, characters that have a similar hairstyle just have a similar hairstyle. How many hairstyles do you think there are that can be drawn in stick figure style, anyway?

I'll just leave this here

KoboldRevenge
2011-11-22, 06:08 PM
Not. So. Fast.

It's obviously Therkla's father in both of them but also. One of Girards sons with an ilusion up! :smallcool:

In fact any father shown in comic is probably one of Girard's sons. :smalltongue:

t209
2011-11-22, 06:09 PM
What if Therkla's dad is (or was) the paladin from start of darkness? It could make Therkla's path to ninja as a possible cause.
http://images.wikia.com/oots/images/7/73/Ootsdarkness.gif

Jaros
2011-11-22, 06:10 PM
Not. So. Fast.

It's obviously Therkla's father in both of them but also. One of Girards sons with an ilusion up! :smallcool:

You, sir.

You have just blown my mind.

Hiro Protagonest
2011-11-22, 06:18 PM
Not. So. Fast.

It's obviously Therkla's father in both of them but also. One of Girards sons with an ilusion up! :smallcool:

In fact any father shown in comic is probably one of Girard's sons. :smalltongue:

Therkla is also Thog's sister!

And their father was actually Tarquin when he was trying out some hair dye and a new hairstyle!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin2.png Thog, I am your father. Also, you have a sister.
:thog: ...therkal! therkal's thog's sister!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin2.png Your feelings serve you well. But it's Therkla. Now, join me on the lawful dark side.

Zmflavius
2011-11-22, 07:04 PM
Therkla is also Thog's sister!

And their father was actually Tarquin when he was trying out some hair dye and a new hairstyle!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin2.png Thog, I am your father. Also, you have a sister.
:thog: ...therkal! therkal's my sister!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin2.png Your feelings serve you well. But it's Therkla. Now, join me on the lawful dark side.

And if he doesn't join him in the dark side, perhaps she will.

TheMac04
2011-11-22, 08:08 PM
Therkla is also Thog's sister!

And their father was actually Tarquin when he was trying out some hair dye and a new hairstyle!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin2.png Thog, I am your father. Also, you have a sister.
:thog: ...therkal! therkal's my sister!
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g68/Cats_Are_Aliens/Banners/Tarquin2.png Your feelings serve you well. But it's Therkla. Now, join me on the lawful dark side.

That can't be possible. Thog doesn't use personal pronouns.

Hiro Protagonest
2011-11-22, 08:15 PM
That can't be possible. Thog doesn't use personal pronouns.

First person pronoun? What first person pronoun? >_>

Flame of Anor
2011-11-22, 11:08 PM
You guys are great. :smallbiggrin:




P.S. Yes, I know there's not nearly enough evidence to say it's the same person. Just an interesting "what if".

The Pilgrim
2011-11-23, 09:39 AM
What if Therkla's dad is (or was) the paladin from start of darkness? It could make Therkla's path to ninja as a possible cause.


Given the genocidal actitude of the paladins in SoD towards green-skinned creatures, I highly doubt that any one of them whould sire a child with an Orc woman.

Plus, the scene in the cover of SoD never happened, as lampshaded by MitD in the book.

which basically means that
your theory implies that Therkla's dad is a guy who never existed in the first place.

Which, if you come to think about it, makes more sense than most theories about Therkla's parentage.

Gift Jeraff
2011-11-23, 12:33 PM
He does exist, but Xykon kills him when he's a human.

The Pilgrim
2011-11-23, 03:17 PM
D'oh, true.

Never mind, then.

t209
2011-11-23, 08:20 PM
He does exist, but Xykon kills him when he's a human.

All we need to know is when he is killed! Therkla would be about at same age as elan (Twenties)! Maybe he married his orc wife (good alignment) secretly!

The Pilgrim
2011-11-23, 09:24 PM
All we need to know is when he is killed! Therkla would be about at same age as elan (Twenties)! Maybe he married his orc wife (good alignment) secretly!

Happened 30 years before the first strip of the comic.

So, no, dates don't match. Therkla is younger that 30 in the comic (if noting else, because half-orcs reach middle age at 30, not 35 like humans, so Therkla would have been featured as a middle-aged woman, not as a young one), and in the flashback panel she is show with her father when she was a child, so she would have been older than 30 if her father had been the paladin in SoD.

Dr.Epic
2011-11-24, 12:35 PM
What if Therkla's dad is (or was) the paladin from start of darkness? It could make Therkla's path to ninja as a possible cause.
http://images.wikia.com/oots/images/7/73/Ootsdarkness.gif

That scene never actually happened in the plot to SoD. MitD said it best.:smallwink:

hamishspence
2011-11-24, 01:45 PM
An almost identical scene happened with a living Xykon though.

"It didn't happen that way" says the monster- but it still happened- just slightly differently.

t209
2011-11-29, 08:14 PM
Okay! If the paladin is not Therkla's father
Meaning it is not the paladin died at the fort in SoD.
So maybe Therkla's dad got arrested for marrying an orc or killed by paladins.

weeping eagle
2011-11-30, 01:45 AM
don't you think he looks a LOT like Mr. Grand Larceny? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0435.html)Yes.

Do you think the Cubs will take the pennant this year?

Nightmarenny
2011-11-30, 01:57 AM
Giant wouldn't bother to place such a connection in the comic if it were not going to be used.

As both characters are dead and staying that way I'm saying no.

Gift Jeraff
2011-11-30, 02:21 AM
Don't forget the shadowdancer (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0229.html)!

t209
2011-12-05, 05:31 PM
Don't forget the shadowdancer (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0229.html)!

Too Young!