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Gaius Marius
2011-12-06, 09:35 AM
I went to see this movie with my ex-gf, and I had a great time! My ex was crying profusely at time, and i tought it sweet until I noticed the guy sitting on my other side also crying. Didn't offered HIM any tissue tho..

Really good movie, and it's a very good homage to Georges Méliès. I heard of some of his work, but never really knew who was the genius behind these early work. Glad to be a bit more culture about the man, I hope a lot more people will learn about him with the movie.

There is just a single rant I want to submit. Apparently, the only Méliès movie that had any transatlantic success was "Le Manoir Du Diable" (1896). As the wikipedia article say:

"A print of the film was acquires by Thomas Edison, who then duplicated and distributed it in the United States, where it achieved financial success; however, Edison did not pay any revenues to Méliès."

The more I grow old and learn about it, the more I come to the conclusion that Edison was little more than a greedy dishonest rascal who wasn't over thieving and fraud. :smallfurious: And to think he was a genuine genius when I was young...

H Birchgrove
2011-12-06, 02:57 PM
Having a great intellect doesn't mean that you can't be evil (or at least, a bastich).

I also think that while Edison was great at inventing new stuff, he was paradoxically bad at developing his inventions, or at least accept that others were good at developing them. (See the direct current/alternating current controversy, for example.)

Gaius Marius
2011-12-06, 03:43 PM
Having a great intellect doesn't mean that you can't be evil (or at least, a bastich).

I also think that while Edison was great at inventing new stuff, he was paradoxically bad at developing his inventions, or at least accept that others were good at developing them. (See the direct current/alternating current controversy, for example.)

No kidding. It's his fault that "go in the streets and randomly electrocute animals" isn't considered accepted business practice anymore. EDISON!!! :smallfurious:

Dr. Roboto
2011-12-06, 10:47 PM
No kidding. It's his fault that "go in the streets and randomly electrocute animals" isn't considered accepted business practice anymore. EDISON!!! :smallfurious:

While certainly no expert, I have done some research on him for school, and I believe I can shed some light on the situation. No pun intended.

Edison did have some pretty bad business practices. He filmed the electrocution of animals and, as I understand it, popularized the use of the the electric chair to discredit his rivals. In addition, most of his work was derivative, or, at the very least, not done solely by him. He had a loose, at best, grip of the scientific process, and gets credit for much of the work he didn't do.

However, even with these flaws, the man was still a genius, or very, very inprobably lucky. He managed to come up with his best inventions, such as the phonograph and practical lighting system, without actually using proper scientific procedures. He instead operated on sheer knowledge. Additionally, his greatest invention wasn't electrical, it was economic/scientific; the modern industrial research lab. His lab at Menlo Park was funded by investors instead of a university or individual, which gave direction to the work, and is still used today.

Sorry to get off-topic, but I had to chime in. Again, not an expert, so if you are, and I said something wrong, PM me before I turn in the project. :smallwink:

Xondoure
2011-12-06, 11:03 PM
Yeah the movie was incredible. And Edison is a scheming bastard.

Gaius Marius
2011-12-06, 11:10 PM
Yeah the movie was incredible. And Edison is a scheming bastard.

This thread has 3 topics, feel free to discuss any of them:

- Hugo (the movie)
- George Méliès
- That bastard Edison

Psyren
2011-12-08, 01:14 PM
Hugo is fantastic, but it wasn't at all what I thought it would be about. Still, my date ended up crying too so I understand where the OP is coming from :smallsmile:

Gaius Marius
2011-12-08, 02:42 PM
Its the good kind of crying, tho. The kind that get a girl's heart soft and vulnerable, not the kind (like Moulin Rouge) that might get it charged with grief...

Psyren
2011-12-08, 03:03 PM
Its the good kind of crying, tho. The kind that get a girl's heart soft and vulnerable, not the kind (like Moulin Rouge) that might get it charged with grief...

Well, my date was a guy but yeah :smalltongue:

Back to Hugo - I basically saw it as porn for film majors, the kind of movie guaranteed to get the critics on board. And boy did it. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hugo/) But I especially loved the hilariously awkward truant officer, the bookworm sidekick and the sweeping views of Paris.

Gaius Marius
2011-12-08, 04:35 PM
Well, my date was a guy but yeah :smalltongue:

Oh... Well that changes the perspective.. :smalleek:


Back to Hugo - I basically saw it as porn for film majors, the kind of movie guaranteed to get the critics on board. And boy did it. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hugo/) But I especially loved the hilariously awkward truant officer, the bookworm sidekick and the sweeping views of Paris.

Aye. The movie's cinematography is beautiful, unsurprisingly :smallbiggrin:

The characters are powerful archetypes in their own ways. Just the inspector was, in my mind, too cartoonish for the film's mood. I kinda killed a bit the mood of my date when I told her during the opening chase scene: "It's fun to laugh at crippled people!"

Psyren
2011-12-08, 05:01 PM
Nah, the minute I saw his robo-leg I knew how things would play out.

One thing that sucks about this movie, it's nearly impossible to talk about without spoiling it :smallfrown: even Bob (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/5041-Hugo) couldn't do it.

H Birchgrove
2011-12-08, 07:05 PM
Heh. If TV Tropes is correct, Nikolas Tesla was awarded with the Edison Award late in his life. :facepalm:

Gaius Marius
2011-12-08, 10:58 PM
Heh. If TV Tropes is correct, Nikolas Tesla was awarded with the Edison Award late in his life. :facepalm:

The man needed every buck he could put his hands on...