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Trixie
2011-12-16, 06:20 PM
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Trixie's Great and Powerful Guide v1.96
NoE Edition

Brief Introduction

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is a reboot of the MLP franchise by Powerpuff Girls artist Lauren Faust, currently viewed by (almost) the entire Internet, not only the intended audience. Here is a place where we discuss the joy of friendship.

> My Little Pony? Seriously?

It's a clever show. It has excellent writing, character dynamics, humor, animation, and generally treats kids seriously rather than condescending to them. It has every right to be a 20 minute corporate committee designed infomercial, but it's not.

> Isn't this a show for little girls?

Pixar technically makes shows for little boys, and produce some of the best animation in the world.

> Okay, fine. I'll give it a try. Where do I start?

No Brony could ask for more. I recommend watching the episodes in order. They're all up on Youtube. Unusually, Hasbro seems fine with having the entire series up in public because they've made no move to bring down any of the episodes. Search for "Friendship is Magic Episode 1" and you should find the series pretty easily... Or search for "Sharing is Magic" Google Doc. That is all.

> Okay, I'm going to watch it but this had better live up to the hype!

Whoa, calm down there. The show is light hearted, optimistic fun but it's not for everyone. It's good fun, the community is good fun, and everyone can do with a reminder that friendship is magic but if it doesn't gel for you we'll love and tolerate you anyway. Plus, you might hit the wrong episode. Ask first?

> Iron Hoof/Fan Theories/Shipping/Binding

All in good fun! If it's not your cup of tea, skim it, but this show has triggered a great creative outpouring from the Internet. Pony themed fan-art is abundant and often excellent. See below for some examples.

> Derpy Hooves/Doctor Whoof

Two minor background characters who were adopted as emblems of 4chan. Derpy Hooves is so named due to an animation error in the first episode that had her eyes facing in different directions; 4chan has assigned her the role of Ponyville's mailpony, and her only line so far has been "Muffins". The show's animators are aware of Derpy's popularity and she's shown up a few times recently with her eyes obviously derped. Currently made canon in Feeling Pinkie Keen and in Faust's picture showcased below, Derpy was deemed important enough to appear in storyboards for Season II.

Dr. Whoof is a pony with an hourglass cutie mark; he and his kin save time and space very quietly off camera.


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Ponytar Artists

Alarra
Alterform
Crown of Thorns
Dirtytabs
Irbis
Kairaven
Khosan
Trixie
...and a lot more besides.

If you do/don't want to be here, please make a note in the thread.

New: Official PonyPic Request Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217442)!
Old Requests [Archived] (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10616651)

General Resources

Fan Fiction and News: Equestria Daily (http://www.equestriadaily.com/)
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Discussion Image Forum: Ponychan (http://www.ponychan.net/chan/)
Pony Emotes: FiM Emotes (http://kefkafloyd.imgur.com/J8S59)
More Emotes: MC's Emotes (http://gitpmcerberus.imgur.com/ponymote)
Also Emotes: GD's Emotes (http://gadora.imgur.com/seekret_pony_projekt_1/1)
Pony Images: Ponibooru (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/list)
More Images: 20% Cooler (http://twentypercentcooler.net/)
Know Your Meme: Ponies! (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic)
Allspark MLP Discussion Thread (http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76678&st=0&start=0)

Art Resources


OC Pony Creation Guide:

>How to make OC Pony (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/_images/048648773b808749ecbcd93b7825d545/22629%20-%20original_character_tutorial%20tutorial.png)<
>How to clothe a Pony (http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/10448a8bf5139a93e47ee0ab2185d577/23650%20-%20Touhou%20artist%3Awhy485%20drawing_guide%20fash ion%20guide%20pony%20tutorial.png)<

Deviant Art Links:

Lauren Faust (http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/)

14 Bis (http://14-bis.deviantart.com/)
ButterSS (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/)
Csimadmax (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/)
DonKoRR (http://don-komandorr.deviantart.com/)
Irving Zero (http://irving-zero.deviantart.com/)
Johnjoseco (http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/)
Kloudmutt (http://kloudmutt.deviantart.com/)
Palestorm (http://palestorm.deviantart.com/)
Shinepaw (http://shinepawpony.deviantart.com/)

>Awesome Great and Powerful Trixie (http://kp-shadowsquirrel.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49ccgo)<

Tutorials:

How to Draw Luna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YoOgNwPp4)
MLP Art Guides (http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/DJPon-3/)
MLP Colour Guides (http://kefkafloyd.deviantart.com/)

Kloud TV (http://www.livestream.com/kloudmutt)

Concepts:

On the Design of the Mane Cast (http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/107/092/original/122%20-%20applejack%20chart%20fluttershy%20pinkie_pie%20r ainbow_dash%20rarity%20twilight_sparkle.jpg)

Concept art by L. Faust:

AJ/AJ (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtv1PUCI/AAAAAAAABPg/aTDHM_vJ3Ek/Applejack-08.jpg)
Pinkie/Surprise (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtjpEWrI/AAAAAAAABPc/vlcKpVmK1FY/Pinkie_08.jpg)
Rarity/Sparkler (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuba65VI/AAAAAAAABPo/o7oJ1OI4bcE/Rarity_08.jpg)
Twilight/Twinkle (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuS8XZtI/AAAAAAAABPs/9CPSE6Je1Y0/Twilight_08.jpg)
Derpy/Ditzy (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtusFdII/AAAAAAAABPk/4VbhxajIt1o/Derpy_11.jpg)

Group Shot (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPGxLKSxqsI/Tet-724kmrI/AAAAAAAABoc/74J43JjtvVc/mlplegroupruff.jpg)

5 Best Pictures [IMHO]:

TG&P Trixie 1 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoSj31bI/AAAAAAAABKc/yhAESX1bWDU/129879022202-fim_thebestmagic2.png) 2a (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevesc6Z3I/AAAAAAAABJE/wqYR1YU8-xM/129878791125-Magic_for_Friendship.png) 2b (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoV0tFSI/AAAAAAAABKg/UIrpK2_XUDk/345%20-%20filly%20flower%20Magic%20noel%20Trixie.jpg) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevn1UZNyI/AAAAAAAABJI/JQaTPZ7u9kk/1295392718493.png)
Twilight Sparkle 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQKpEFW1I/AAAAAAAABKo/PJmzRBt_g0o/twilight-%28n1298746506900%29.jpg) 2 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYgEWabUv0I/AAAAAAAABJg/S1emWO9FjbE/1297919269027.png) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQAwKvFvI/AAAAAAAABKk/08Q9f1BaGa0/1298478186234.png)
Rainbow Dash 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tuXX0V5I/AAAAAAAABOE/vPLwNGpCsU8/rainbows_are_awesome_by_adamrbi-d3awtkv.jpg) 2 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tugAF4JI/AAAAAAAABOI/RYGrQCZySJo/1298478713223.jpg) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tutzFrYI/AAAAAAAABOM/QP22FdlygtA/1299129766866.png) 3.6 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-vxE-8GgI/AAAAAAAABOY/ktOwjPQ3eiI/130057856759.png)
Fluttershy 1 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiSMaDSI/AAAAAAAABPQ/FNLXj6WE0ss/yofluttershybyarborishd.png) 2 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiUXQlvI/AAAAAAAABPU/SCs7qzer-6E/129860262040.png) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiWhyIWI/AAAAAAAABPY/r6ClIhygmw0/1297113141466.png)

Pony Games

The most recent one. (http://www.yoyogames.com/games/168448-mlp-fim-the-way-home#)
Pacderpy (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/pacderpy.html)
Two very similar dash based (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/dashattack.html) cloud gathering sidescrollers (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/rainbowdashmini.html)
Pony generator I (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/custompony.html)
Pony generator II (http://derpyhooves.com/games.php?id=3)
Pony generator III (http://generalzoi.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Pony-Creator-Beta-210228500)

New: Pinkie licks cupcakes. (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-202202384?q=boost%3Apopular%20max_age%3A8h%20frien dship%20is%20magic&qo=22) And a playthrough for it, too. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUy1UtuNet0)
Collect Cupcakes, Lick Ponies! 2.0 (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-TWO-202342576)

Nice Fanwork


5AMVs:5Always (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhgzpnTYCXQ)Communism is Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJHZ4E9tRHM)Freeze Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXhEXQSXSw)[BR]I can go the distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYonN9in668)[BR]PonyCraft 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJbAT1wzS8U)[BR]Still Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za9f1c93FHY)[BR]The G&P Heretic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4szgPK9Rufw)1[B]Equestria Girls EE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo)[BR]Hub Summer Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKjBViIt-y8)[BR]Hop-Skip-Jump [original] (http://soundcloud.com/dannyimusic/mlp1-hop-skip-jump-song)[BR]Smile, Smile, Smile! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFf_rGavnFk)1Old Pony Songs 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLqc8BSQMg) & 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCpBYLHIEuI)[BR]Ponies! (http://ponyvspony.com/)[BR]5[B]Comics:5The Damn Best Comic (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/359/5/9/pinkiedeadpool_by_csimadmax-d35ms08.jpg). Ever.And The Prequel (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/107/1/f/pinkiedeadpool_origins_by_csimadmax-d3e936w.png).[BR]And part two (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/147/8/b/battle_for_equestria_02_by_csimadmax-d3hdr5c.png).[BR]And three (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/154/2/1/battle_for_equestria_03_by_csimadmax-d3hz63e.png).[BR]And four (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/160/a/f/battle_for_equestria_04_by_csimadmax-d3iighp.png).[BR]And five (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/168/4/0/battle_for_equestria_05_by_csimadmax-d3j5nlu.png).[BR]Six (http://www.deviantart.com/download/256435109/battle_for_equestria_06_by_csimadmax-d48oalh.png) / Seven (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/7/6/battle_for_equestria_07_by_csimadmax-d49cgt7.png) / Eight (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/0/7/battle_for_equestria_08_by_csimadmax-d49dpsp.png).1Metaponies (http://gavalanche.deviantart.com/gallery/29877487).[BR]5[B]ED Fics:5Twilight Sky Over Canterlot (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-twilight-sky-over-canterlot.html)Sidelines / Midnight's Tale (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html)[BR]World Without Rainbows (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-world-without-rainbows.html)[BR]Luxury Lotus Spa Follies (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-luxury-lotus-spa-follies.html)[BR]How Lyra Met Bon-Bon (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/02/story-how-lyra-met-bon-bon.html)[BR]Letters from Bubbly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-letters-from-bubbly-1-10.html)[BR]Swayback Mountain (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-swayback-mountain.html)[BR]And Life Goes On (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-your-greatest-fan.html)[BR]The Three Notes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-three-notes.html)[BR]TGaP Trixie (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-great-and-powerful-trixie.html)[BR]Antipodes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-antipodes.html)[BR]Progress (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-progress-luna-versus-microwave.html)[BR]Bubbles (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-bubbles.html)1Pony Drinking Game (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3cng5n)[BR]|
5[B]Songs:5At The Gala / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSmihuY5ms)Fluttershy's Lullaby / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDxuMvnehs)[BR]So Many Wonders / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbt-Z2RwfM)[BR][BR]The French and Powerful Trixie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpeVg7yMv8)[BR][BR]At The Gala / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlVRN-qePmA)[BR]Art of the Dress / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clm3GjqncJs)[BR]Winter Wrap Up / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfqIEGb2s5w)5[B]GitP Fics:5AmishPirate (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20TheAmishPirate)1Darth BC (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Bobcat)1Deadly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Adcoon):[BR][BR]Trollestia 1 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/200/0/b/trickster_goddess_nr_1_by_adcoon-d40tt3d.png) 2 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/201/a/4/trickster_goddess_nr_2_by_adcoon-d414fzw.png) 3 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/214/1/3/trickster_goddess_nr_3_by_adcoon-d42h2hx.png) 4 (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/229/0/d/trickster_goddess_nr_4_by_adcoon-d46vksj.png).1EsperDerek (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20EsperDerek)1Grif:[BR][BR]Pony Effect (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-pony-effect_23.html)1PhantomFox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20PhantomFox):[BR][BR]Pride Goes Before a Folly (http://phantomfox7.deviantart.com/art/Pride-Goes-Before-A-Folly-211724143)1PhoeKun (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Phoe)1Raz Fox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Raz_Fox)1Thanqol (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Thanqol)[BR]

Important GitP Links

Thread I - Because Friendship Is Magic
Thread II - Now About 20% Cooler
Thread III - The Great & Powerful Thread
Thread IV - Friendship is Sufficiently Advanced Technology
Thread V - Art of the Thread
Thread VI - MUFFINS!
Thread VII - The Grand Galloping Thread
Thread VIII - Friendship is Music
Thread IX - The Best Thread Ever
Thread X - We Trot 'til We Drop
Thread XI - "Mmph!"
Thread XII - No One Can Groove Like the Girls with the Hooves
Thread XIII - Fast/Fine/Fierce Thread
Thread XIV - Boots on Hooves / Bikinis on Top
Thread XV - The Greater and Powerful-er Thread
Thread XVI - There's a Pony for That!
Thread XVII - Call Upon the Thread Ponies!
Thread XVIII - Perfect Isn't Easy
Thread XIX - I Emptied Your Thread
Thread XX & Thread XX - Appletastic Treats
Thread XXI - A Very Minty Thread
Thread XXII - Surprise!
Thread XXIII - It. Is. ON!
Thread XXIV - Now About 200% Longer Than Firefly
Thread XXV - Au Contraire, Mon Ami!
Thread XXVI - Applebloom to Zecora!
Thread XXVII - Eternal Chaos comes with Chocolate Rain
Thread XXVIII - In the Crazy of 40.000 Posts, There is Only Pony!
Thread XXIX - The Spoilers have been DOUBLED!
Thread XXX - Trixie Treats!
Thread XXXI - The Great and Powerful XXXie!
Thread XXXII - Find a Ponythread, and Soarin' the heck out of it!
Thread XXXIII - Happy Birthday Pony(thread)!
Thread XXXIV - There is Pony of it, no exceptions!

Operation: Indiscriminate Friendship
Pony Week Discussion Thread
Pony Crime Pulp Fic/Game Thread


Want to Draw? Ponies will help!
Want to RP? My Little Pony: FiM RP Recruitment Thread.
Want to join the list of GitP Bronies (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApgaWduo83XldFhETWUtWm96b1BFS1dHOF84dTBGM lE&hl=en_US#gid=0)?

Eakin
2011-12-16, 06:21 PM
The thread title is, of course, a reference to Rule 34.

If you don't know what that is, DO NOT GOOGLE IT. Rather, cherish your innocence.

Yay new thread!

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-16, 06:21 PM
New ponythead taste, same great ponymote filling:

Original Batch
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MCerberus
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http://i.imgur.com/zFwEx.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zFwEx.png

Crazy!Twi
http://i.imgur.com/r63WE.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/r63WE.png
http://i.imgur.com/PDKIo.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/PDKIo.png
http://i.imgur.com/viCkZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/viCkZ.png
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http://i.imgur.com/tudfp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/tudfp.png
http://i.imgur.com/Siwuj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Siwuj.png
http://i.imgur.com/sp5Tb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/sp5Tb.png
http://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gif

Kyouhen Series feat. Ninja Pinkie!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gildicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.png


Misc:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/272/4/b/liarjack_da_avatar_by_metalbeersolid-d4bc9sj.gifhttp://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/272/4/b/liarjack_da_avatar_by_metalbeersolid-d4bc9sj.gif
Seekrit Pony Projekt
1-20
http://i.imgur.com/03Pwr.png[noparse]http://i.imgur.com/03Pwr.png
http://i.imgur.com/0Mw2v.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/0Mw2v.png
http://i.imgur.com/2u0gC.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/2u0gC.png
http://i.imgur.com/3JXCg.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/3JXCg.png
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http://i.imgur.com/459jt.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/459jt.png
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http://i.imgur.com/4zrN3.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/4zrN3.png
http://i.imgur.com/6SgQp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/6SgQp.png
http://i.imgur.com/74j15.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/74j15.png
http://i.imgur.com/7Yvwk.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/7Yvwk.png
http://i.imgur.com/8u4Rl.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/8u4Rl.png
http://i.imgur.com/9SkHu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/9SkHu.png
http://i.imgur.com/AKUeV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/AKUeV.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ala5e.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Ala5e.png
http://i.imgur.com/AruGN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/AruGN.png
http://i.imgur.com/BgqS5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/BgqS5.png
http://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.png

21-40
http://i.imgur.com/D4C8X.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/D4C8X.png
http://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.png
http://i.imgur.com/dDGKR.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/dDGKR.png
http://i.imgur.com/eCLn3.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/eCLn3.png
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http://i.imgur.com/ev5Dd.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ev5Dd.png
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http://i.imgur.com/G1lsp.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/G1lsp.png
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http://i.imgur.com/G8QfD.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/G8QfD.png
http://i.imgur.com/GOn25.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/GOn25.png
http://i.imgur.com/g0EB2.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/g0EB2.png
http://i.imgur.com/HKmyu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/HKmyu.png
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http://i.imgur.com/hdG5a.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hdG5a.png
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http://i.imgur.com/hfXmw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hfXmw.png
http://i.imgur.com/hleys.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hleys.png
http://i.imgur.com/I0AiJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/I0AiJ.png
41-60
http://i.imgur.com/iSsYc.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/iSsYc.png
http://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ji01D.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Ji01D.png
http://i.imgur.com/jDb4v.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jDb4v.png
http://i.imgur.com/jhfF7.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jhfF7.png
http://i.imgur.com/jq6VL.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jq6VL.png
http://i.imgur.com/KLXX3.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KLXX3.png
http://i.imgur.com/k7yr1.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/k7yr1.png
http://i.imgur.com/kETPz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/kETPz.png
http://i.imgur.com/LIUMV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/LIUMV.png
http://i.imgur.com/LKAKZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/LKAKZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/Lz5uj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Lz5uj.png
http://i.imgur.com/l6Dif.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/l6Dif.png
http://i.imgur.com/ldfV9.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ldfV9.png
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http://i.imgur.com/NInKh.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/NInKh.png
http://i.imgur.com/O73if.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/O73if.png
http://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.png

61-80
http://i.imgur.com/o1ROT.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/o1ROT.png
http://i.imgur.com/o3OrQ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/o3OrQ.png
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http://i.imgur.com/twJKI.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/twJKI.png
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http://i.imgur.com/VNjBL.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VNjBL.png
http://i.imgur.com/Vthb5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Vthb5.png

81-100
http://i.imgur.com/VYSqq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VYSqq.png
http://i.imgur.com/vbM5o.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vbM5o.png
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http://i.imgur.com/zRC21.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zRC21.png
http://i.imgur.com/zw5OF.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zw5OF.png

101-112
http://i.imgur.com/Tqo43.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Tqo43.png
http://i.imgur.com/MPjbO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/MPjbO.png
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http://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.png
http://i.imgur.com/hwHGZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hwHGZ.png

113-124 (Luna Series)

http://i.imgur.com/Mm1dn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Mm1dn.png
http://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.png
http://i.imgur.com/rW0xK.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rW0xK.png
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http://i.imgur.com/oRdYJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/oRdYJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/hNTy5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hNTy5.png
http://i.imgur.com/KyWk8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KyWk8.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.png
http://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.png

Sweetie Welf
2011-12-16, 06:22 PM
So, new thread? New image dump!


http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/262/5/f/rarity__by_asieybarbie-d4aadbf.jpg

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/210/c/b/rarity_by_anderpants-d423q57.png

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/338/f/3/___miss_rarity____by_yulle-d4i6umj.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/345/8/d/rarity_by_viki_vaki-d4i4v0u.png

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/345/f/d/pony_everypony_should_know_by_don_komandorr-d4itcxg.jpg

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/337/4/c/artsy_rarity_by_johnjoseco-d4i18ee.png

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/309/5/4/like_apple_pie_by_johnjoseco-d4f6fhf.png

Deadly
2011-12-16, 06:23 PM
Quoting myself from old thread:


Oh... R34

Isn't that usually "for it" rather than "of it" or something like that? Seems like the wording is usually different. Somehow "of it" just didn't make the connection to R34 for me

I couldn't help but think "There's A LOT of it" when I read the title, but then "no exceptions" didn't make sense

Eakin
2011-12-16, 06:27 PM
I think "for it" would imply that the purpose of... those images... would be for the use of whatever "it" is... eww...

"of it" implies that the eponymous "it" is the image subject.

EDIT for image dump 'cause all the cool ponies are doing it
http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-times-are-changing-for-the-better.jpg
This calls for a COMMUNIST PARTY! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZvEyKSHuc)
http://i.imgur.com/THuro.png
http://www.ponychan.net/chan/arch/src/130740321445.jpg
http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/350/3/a/_mlp___a_sledge_above_equestria_by_metaldrakon-d4j95b1.png
http://i.imgur.com/Gwzbm.png

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-16, 06:27 PM
I would like to compliment threadmistress Trixie on her choice of art, a very appropriate reaction.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-16, 06:29 PM
Haha! My suggestion for thread title won! I am a ponythread hero!

Time for a celecratory image dump!

The Hooves family show off their capes and boots and oh gods Dinky in those little boots with the bow HNNNNNNNNNNG!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/7a118a27e542a2c120e676119111673d/98729%20-%20artist%3Asaturnspace%20cape%20derpy_hooves%20di nky_hooves%20Doctor_Whooves%20Sparkler.png

Just beautiful:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/e111687c057624ad6e5de5b971a65ae5/98720%20-%20artist%3Ajohn_joseco%20celestia%20twilight_spar kle.jpg

I love how this artist draws pony manes:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/0da3c62a202ad851f23e59687af18e6b/98395%20-%20artist%3AKP-ShadowSquirrel%20can_can%20pinkie_pie%20sketch.jpg

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/f024173725c41e6d73f3d166abaf97dd/98242%20-%20artist%3Acactusheart%20artist%3Acuteosphere%20C hristmas%20pinkie_pie%20screwball%20winter.jpg

Well.... that's a new ship:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/9cb1f0310e4babac18979bab4b0b5501/98830%20-%20artist%3Acuppae%20nuzzle%20scootaloo%20silver_s poon.png

Kitties!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/16aee81da93425da66b0231fce083b9e/58384%20-%20applejack%20artist%3Abamboodog%20cat%20cats%20c ute%20fluttershy%20mane_six%20pinkie_pie%20rainbow _dash%20rarity%20twilight_sparkle.png

HANG IN THERE BABY!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/f2234926024325eeea59dcde72a4b2b8/98013%20-%20artist%3Aellybethe%20fluttershy%20tree.jpg

Boast Busters in a nutshell (not really):
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/e824fb8dc8192e67fc06110bf26ba956/98003%20-%20artist%3Azicygomar%20Caesar%20coloured%20comic% 20crossover%20Hiimdaisy%20metal_gear%20Metal_Gear_ Solid%20Snails%20snips%20Trixie%20twilight_sparkle .png

Unlimted D'AWWWWWWWW! (double spoilered due to an excessive amount of LARGE)
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/d49f086fdfaf9de7b1f90adc51cfbf41/97997%20-%20artist%3AJack-a-Lynn%20fire_ruby%20kissing%20rarity%20spike.png

Prince Blueblood is now best pony (never thought I'd say that)
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/b027ee029a9c4822309d22a590f18eb9/98040%20-%20ask_blueblood%20chubby_dash%20Dick_Dastardly%20 photo_finish%20prince_blueblood%20rainbow_blob%20r ainbow_dash%20rainbow_dash_chubbie%20tumblr.png

Fancy a spot o' tea, old chap? (More LARGE)
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/05b49916327c9e3626a4aa1034d76cd4/99168%20-%20applejack%20artist%3Asolar-slash%20fluttershy%20pinkie_pie%20rainbow_dash%20r arity%20twilight_sparkle.jpg

Aaaaaand finally: steampunk ponies! (LARGE)
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/f105f5ca19443df810b2f214c19f7dc9/99051%20-%20artificial_wings%20artist%3Acolorsymphony%20gla sses%20gummy%20jetpack%20mecha_gummy%20pinkie_pie% 20rainbow_dash%20smoke_pipe%20steampunk%20top_hat% 20twilight_sparkle%20wonderbolts.jpg

Oh, and in case anyone missed it in the last thread: An adorable Christmas message from Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle's voice actress. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bv_dxHRTto&feature=player_embedded)

Deadly
2011-12-16, 06:30 PM
I think "for it" would imply that the purpose of... those images... would be for the use of whatever "it" is... eww...

"of it" implies that the eponymous "it" is the image subject.

Hmm... I'm no expert on this particular terminology here, but now that I think about it I seem to remember there being two very similar rules, maybe this is the cause for my confusion.

Trixie
2011-12-16, 06:30 PM
Also, in case anypony's wondering, this (http://asktheflowergirls.tumblr.com/) is the OP source...? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

legomaster00156
2011-12-16, 06:32 PM
Love and tolerance prevail once more. The following exchange is taken from the comments for the Fluttershy vs. Bear scene on Youtube.


Watching that was almost (I can't believe I'm about to say this) unBEARable.

HA! HA HA! I SAID IT!!!
megadork456 1 day ago

@megadork456: I- you- That was horrible. That was really horrible.
legomaster00156 1 day ago

@legomaster00156: Said the guy who spends all his time playing with plastic bricks. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!*!
megadork456 1 day ago

@megadork456: It's an old username from when I was a child. Besides, I meant that in jest.
legomaster00156 22 hours ago

@legomaster00156: As was mine, good friend! Come, let us enjoy in merriment this fine cinematic flimpiece, and never again quarrel over such triffling trvialities!
megadork456 18 hours ago

@megadork456: And thus, another lesson in friendship is learned: it's really hard to detect sarcasm over the Ponynet.
legomaster00156 1 sec ago

Grif
2011-12-16, 06:34 PM
The power of R34 compels you...

THERE IS NO NFSW FOLDER HERE, CITIZEN!

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-16, 06:36 PM
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/e111687c057624ad6e5de5b971a65ae5/98720%20-%20artist%3Ajohn_joseco%20celestia%20twilight_spar kle.jpg

@Diego:

You killed me....

legomaster00156
2011-12-16, 06:36 PM
The power of R34 compels you...

THERE IS NO NFSW FOLDER HERE, CITIZEN!
What does "Not for Safe Work" mean? :smallconfused:

Eakin
2011-12-16, 06:40 PM
What does "Not for Safe Work" mean? :smallconfused:

Technically, EVERYTHING pony related is NSFW, since it would be rather tough to explain why you were looking at cartoon ponies on company time.

On the internet it usually just means R rated or pornographic, though.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-16, 06:43 PM
Quoting myself from old thread:



I couldn't help but think "There's A LOT of it" when I read the title, but then "no exceptions" didn't make sense
The original line was "If it exists, there is porn of it, no exceptions". This title merely swaps the p-word for pony, and eliminates the first bit (which is often ignored anyway).


Also, in case anypony's wondering, this (http://asktheflowergirls.tumblr.com/) is the OP source...? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg
THE HORROR! THE HORROR!

It's so much better when you can see what they're scared of XD


http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/e111687c057624ad6e5de5b971a65ae5/98720%20-%20artist%3Ajohn_joseco%20celestia%20twilight_spar kle.jpg

@Diego:

You killed me....
Ah, geez, I'm sorry. Hold on a sec, I still have some diamond dust...

True Resurrection!


What does "Not for Safe Work" mean? :smallconfused:
It means you can only view it during a dangerous job. Obviously. :smalltongue:

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-16, 06:44 PM
Ah, geez, I'm sorry. Hold on a sec, I still have some diamond dust...

True Resurrection!


Thanks my pancreas has let its trans-body empire go to pot ever since I took Twi's Bookfort off my wallpaper

Forum Explorer
2011-12-16, 06:45 PM
Huzzah a new ponythread!

Current pony status: 6 ponyfics are being read and one pony gurps character is being made.


Not Safe For Work is generally things that are violent, sexy, or otherwise could get you fired if your boss happened to see it on your screen.

legomaster00156
2011-12-16, 06:48 PM
Technically, EVERYTHING pony related is NSFW, since it would be rather tough to explain why you were looking at cartoon ponies on company time.

On the internet it usually just means R rated or pornographic, though.

Not Safe For Work is generally things that are violent, sexy, or otherwise could get you fired if your boss happened to see it on your screen.
You missed my joke in the post, I see.

RdMarquis
2011-12-16, 06:49 PM
Haha! My suggestion for thread title won! I am a ponythread hero!

Time for a celecratory image dump!

Boast Busters in a nutshell (not really):
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/e824fb8dc8192e67fc06110bf26ba956/98003%20-%20artist%3Azicygomar%20Caesar%20coloured%20comic% 20crossover%20Hiimdaisy%20metal_gear%20Metal_Gear_ Solid%20Snails%20snips%20Trixie%20twilight_sparkle .png

My gosh, I would love to see MGS3 ponified.

Topaz
2011-12-16, 06:54 PM
I think Filly Celestia might be my new biggest weakness.
Unless its maybe Celestia being totally badarsed.
Celestia used Solar Beam!

I haven't done an image dump in a while...

Topaz has a crush on Rainbow Dash, Part deaux:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--XudxVC0VXA/TuGcj0wQWOI/AAAAAAAAADc/cN8SHJonKoI/s1600/dash+gala.png
Midnight is a bad influence on Discord!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2zUyugAqb98/Tuuq6bqGT-I/AAAAAAAAYMc/83OqmtqdAhI/s1600/discord__s_little_harem_by_tcgamerboy2002-d4j55kf.png
How can I whine about alicorns and then think Cadence is adorable?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4kVAT48lKws/TuuqwcqorTI/AAAAAAAAYKc/1eX6bNKsgSo/s1600/98953+-+Alicorn+artist+rarewhitewolf+artist+wolfeh+Cadenc e+princess+princess_cadence.png

Aotrs Commander
2011-12-16, 06:55 PM
If I have not produced said writings by January 12th, you may smack me upside the head.

Use this brick.

You realise what a bad idea it is to tempt me like that, right?

Especially as you didn't explictly say that I couldn't duct-tape it to the side of my rocket launcher first...


Actually it's more of a 'not sure if want' situation. You do kind of have a super lich kept in submission. Not entirely sure that's the type of situation I have an interest in being in. :smalltongue:

HEY! I am not in submission! I'm...merely in a position such that I have to be tactically cautious.

Sheeeyeahright...

*swack*

You, on the other hand, Hopereaver...

Shuttingupnow,sir!


Well if he weren't so opposed to it, it'd be much more friendly. xD

*shudder*


Haha! My suggestion for thread title won! I am a ponythread hero!

Time for a celecratory image dump!

Prince Blueblood is now best pony (never thought I'd say that)
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/b027ee029a9c4822309d22a590f18eb9/98040%20-%20ask_blueblood%20chubby_dash%20Dick_Dastardly%20 photo_finish%20prince_blueblood%20rainbow_blob%20r ainbow_dash%20rainbow_dash_chubbie%20tumblr.png

Huzzah!

Okay, it's not quite my envisioned DockDastardly and Sootly chasing after Ditzy Doo for General Krastos the Glue-Maker, but even so, I'll take it!

Eakin
2011-12-16, 06:56 PM
You missed my joke in the post, I see.

To be fair, it's hard to detect sarcasm on the internet. And pony thread has a way of making me think everyone is a little more honest and sincere then they really are.


The original line was "If it exists, there is porn of it, no exceptions". This title merely swaps the p-word for pony, and eliminates the first bit (which is often ignored anyway).


Like the internet would limit itself to ONLY making porn of things that actually exist.

Today was a good day for me! I got a job offer for exactly the right position in exactly the wrong place. Don't know if I'll accept but it feels pretty bucking good to have an offer after just two weeks of searching.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-16, 07:16 PM
My gosh, I would love to see MGS3 ponified.
While this has nothing to do with ponies, I should point out that the comic I posted was based on this (http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/peachifruit/hiimdaisy/mgs/) by peachifruit.


Topaz has a crush on Rainbow Dash, Part deaux:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/--XudxVC0VXA/TuGcj0wQWOI/AAAAAAAAADc/cN8SHJonKoI/s1600/dash+gala.png
I don't blame you. She's super pretty there.


Like the internet would limit itself to ONLY making porn of things that actually exist.
*snrk* Yeah, okay, see your point. But "If it exists, there is porn of it and if it doesn't exist there is still porn of it. No exceptions" doesn't roll off the tongue. :smalltongue:


Today was a good day for me! I got a job offer for exactly the right position in exactly the wrong place. Don't know if I'll accept but it feels pretty bucking good to have an offer after just two weeks of searching.
Well, congrats ^^

Anyway, last image dump before sleepy time:
First, a crack ship for the day:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/8797045b047b39c4d4033c0aa8272594/98966%20-%20artist%3Asiansaar%20pinkamena_diane_pie%20pinki e_pie%20Star_Sparkle%20twilight%27s_mom%20twilight _velvet.jpg

Then some airship pilot ponies:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/6025ace51798362fb8eaa20c972a2226/98943%20-%20airship_admiral%20applejack%20artist%3Ajohntb.p ng

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/dbc32eaf2bc8c9d693d06ce6e4c649fb/98908%20-%20airship%20artist%3Anoreasontohope%20pirate%20ra inbow_dash%20steampunk.png

Goodnight everypony!

Athaniar
2011-12-16, 07:21 PM
New Ponythread! Yay! ^^


An adorable Christmas message from Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle's voice actress. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bv_dxHRTto&feature=player_embedded)
That's really cute. She has a great voice.



I think I've met some of my best friends from this show, and most of my older friends share a love of the show as well. I know ponies is a popular conversation topic amongst my friends, and it always gives us something to talk about, whether it is crack shipping TG&P Trixie and The Smooze or simply debating who is best pony (Fluttershy, of course :smallbiggrin:).

Still, its been a fun run guys, and here's to another year!
Agreed! To another great year of Pony!


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-flT_4LWe0CY/Tuuq4FmXjnI/AAAAAAAAYMA/0Ig4_WM2xes/s1600/her_royal_foalness_by_v_invidia-d4j7s9u.png

I think Filly Celestia might be my new biggest weakness.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3E2XxrJjlvc/Tuuq7c3_SDI/AAAAAAAAYMs/92UaWUQBx5A/s1600/1323977631.jinyaranda_celes-tia.jpg

Unless its maybe Celestia being totally badarsed.
That's so very adorable and so very badass, respectively. Celestia is awesome.

MCerberus
2011-12-16, 07:26 PM
Question: If someone made a building out of books with its purpose being a library, how many seconds until Twilight would explode?

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-16, 07:26 PM
Celestia used Solar Beam!

My first thought was Divine Buster

Gamerlord
2011-12-16, 07:42 PM
Question: If someone made a building out of books with its purpose being a library, how many seconds until Twilight would explode?
She would explode so quickly nothing could accurately detect how quickly she exploded.

legomaster00156
2011-12-16, 07:49 PM
I have far too large of a library of images to dump them on this poor, unsuspecting thread. I shall simply link you guys to my Favorites: Pony Stuff (http://legomaster00156.deviantart.com/favourites/47522137) folder.

Topaz
2011-12-16, 07:52 PM
My first thought was Divine Buster
Not pink enough, I'd say.

Though it makes for a good fic scene:

Krastos was breathing heavily, but at least the bodies of those six damnable ponies were splayed out unconscious before him. He looked around. Where was the purple unicorn's mentor? He'd lost sight of her in the confusion.

Suddenly he heard Celestia's voice break the silence, two words coming from directly behind him.

"Load cartridge."

Thanqol
2011-12-16, 08:01 PM
Hey guys

What's happening in this thread?

Gamerlord
2011-12-16, 08:06 PM
Hey guys

What's happening in this thread?
Ponies. Ponies everywhere.

Kurgan
2011-12-16, 08:38 PM
Question: If someone made a building out of books with its purpose being a library, how many seconds until Twilight would explode?

She wouldn't have time to explode, she would be too busy ripping the builder a new one or working on protecting a giant mound of books from the elements. Come now, a building, made of books. First rainfall and you are pretty screwed.

Forum Explorer
2011-12-16, 08:43 PM
You missed my joke in the post, I see.

yes. yes I did.


Also I really want to see Celestia get super-protective of Twilight over some threat. Like Fluttershy and the dragon but instead of lecturing him she proceeds to kicks its *** across the entire solar system.

Kurgan
2011-12-16, 09:00 PM
yes. yes I did.


Also I really want to see Celestia get super-protective of Twilight over some threat. Like Fluttershy and the dragon but instead of lecturing him she proceeds to kicks its *** across the entire solar system.

Well, there is this picture here (also, just spent twenty minutes trawling ponibooru for that):


http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/308/0/a/give_her_something_sweet_to_bite_by_somepony-d4f4dge.png

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-16, 09:11 PM
Well, there is this picture here (also, just spent twenty minutes trawling ponibooru for that):


http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/308/0/a/give_her_something_sweet_to_bite_by_somepony-d4f4dge.png


Always loved that pic.

Anarion
2011-12-16, 09:16 PM
Hello new thread, you're looking very well today.


She wouldn't have time to explode, she would be too busy ripping the builder a new one or working on protecting a giant mound of books from the elements. Come now, a building, made of books. First rainfall and you are pretty screwed.

I can definitely see Twilight going into a fit over the fact that it's impossible to read the books and use them as building material at the same time. Plus, if the architect didn't build the building using the books in alphabetical order by title, there's no hope at all. http://i.imgur.com/U8SiV.png

That said, for rain protection I have two words: laminated covers.

Forum Explorer
2011-12-16, 09:27 PM
Well, there is this picture here (also, just spent twenty minutes trawling ponibooru for that):


http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/308/0/a/give_her_something_sweet_to_bite_by_somepony-d4f4dge.png


I remember that picture. Definitively one of the best Celestia pictures out there. Also I think I missed this detail the first time but does filly Twilight have a lock of Celestia's hair as part of her costume?

the_druid_droid
2011-12-16, 09:52 PM
Then some airship pilot ponies:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/6025ace51798362fb8eaa20c972a2226/98943%20-%20airship_admiral%20applejack%20artist%3Ajohntb.p ng

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/dbc32eaf2bc8c9d693d06ce6e4c649fb/98908%20-%20airship%20artist%3Anoreasontohope%20pirate%20ra inbow_dash%20steampunk.png

Goodnight everypony!

*nosebleed*

Again?! Seriously?! I can't take you anywhere...

Spamotron
2011-12-16, 10:10 PM
yes. yes I did.


Also I really want to see Celestia get super-protective of Twilight over some threat. Like Fluttershy and the dragon but instead of lecturing him she proceeds to kicks its *** across the entire solar system.

I have a similar scene in my head only in my case its Twilight going Magic Incarnate on some poor fool who hurt Spike.

monkeyboyinc
2011-12-16, 10:22 PM
Woo! New thread!
I may actually make an effort to keep up to date on this one.

TheAmishPirate
2011-12-16, 11:20 PM
Reposting for new thread:


Ponythread, let's be serious for a moment: I think we should do something for Christmas. Neigh, I believe we must (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk6RFzPBH7A) do something for Christmas! But what can a bunch of people who don't even see each other face-to-face even do? So I got to thinking, and here's what I came up with, stolen heavily borrowed from a previous forum I went to.


Ponythread Secret Santa

Here's how it works: You sign up here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmtanddZcVpfdHFxVURhUFVhUlMzU051eGdibTEwM UE) with your username and how you'd like to be contacted (PM, email, link through Steam, etc.). If you sign up, then a few days before Christmas you'll receive an email/PM/Steam Message/whatever with the name of the poster you'll be giving something to.

And what can you give, you may ask? Well, the spirit of the thing is to give something to encourage them. To let them know that you appreciate them, how you hope they're having a wonderful Christmas, and that their next year will be filled with ponies. That sort of thing. It can be a little written note, a sketch, a song recording, a short story blurb, anything! Be creative! It doesn't have to be too elaborate; if you're crunched for time, I doubt anypony would mind an honest, uplifting note from a friend.

Then, on Christmas Day (whenever that may fall for you) everypony sends off their gifts and receives one of their own. If you want to post what you get, feel free! Spread the joy! It's Christmas! I'm overusing exclamation points!

Once again, the sign-up link is here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmtanddZcVpfdHFxVURhUFVhUlMzU051eGdibTEwM UE), and if you have any more questions about this, my PM box is open and the thread's right here.

There! A single post in the new thread. NOW I CAN LEAVE AND NOPONY WILL EVER KNOW AND OH WAITponiesponiesponies.

TheCountAlucard
2011-12-16, 11:33 PM
Oh, hi, New Thread. It's me, Alucard. :smallsmile:

Sorry I've been away so long. :smalltongue:

Eager for tomorrow's episode, that's for sure. :smallbiggrin:

otakuryoga
2011-12-16, 11:51 PM
lol...this is the description for a new story gettin posted over on Fimfic

------
My name is Gilda. I used to be a Gryphon warrior, until I got banished.

When you're banished, you've got nothing. No clan, no funding, no gold watch and friendly job reference. You're stuck wherever the Gryphon clans aren't.

You do whatever work comes your way. You rely on anyone still talking to you. A speed-freak ex-marefriend. A megalomaniac illusionist who used to inform ... on you to the EIS.

Family too, if you're desperate.

Bottom line is, as long as you're banished, you're not going anywhere

----

now i just need to see somepony write a Sons Of Anarchy crossover story and i will be in heaven

Jahkaivah
2011-12-17, 12:15 AM
Pony all the ponies.

Callos_DeTerran
2011-12-17, 12:25 AM
Something I just noticed about the poker picture of the Mane Six...Rainbow Dash is cheating! She has a card hidden under her wing! No wonder she's doing so much better then every other pony!

Gaelbert
2011-12-17, 12:29 AM
lol...this is the description for a new story gettin posted over on Fimfic

------
My name is Gilda. I used to be a Gryphon warrior, until I got banished.

When you're banished, you've got nothing. No clan, no funding, no gold watch and friendly job reference. You're stuck wherever the Gryphon clans aren't.

You do whatever work comes your way. You rely on anyone still talking to you. A speed-freak ex-marefriend. A megalomaniac illusionist who used to inform ... on you to the EIS.

Family too, if you're desperate.

Bottom line is, as long as you're banished, you're not going anywhere

----

now i just need to see somepony write a Sons Of Anarchy crossover story and i will be in heaven

Is it well written? I might actually have to read this one.
Come to think of it, I should try to catch up with the show too...

Thanqol
2011-12-17, 12:57 AM
Science has proven that this is the best thing ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHOR9_yMakU&feature=related)

Anarion
2011-12-17, 01:09 AM
Science has proven that this is the best thing ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeOYJO-jFGs&feature=related)

You should know, my computer's volume was at max when I clicked that link. The rest of you, save yourselves while there's still time.


Ugh, 2 500 errors and a 503 error to post two lines of text. So painful.

Thanqol
2011-12-17, 01:10 AM
You should know, my computer's volume was at max when I clicked that link. The rest of you, save yourselves while there's still time.

I considered putting a warning on that. But then I thought "That'd spoil the magic".


Ugh, 2 500 errors and a 503 error to post two lines of text. So painful.

Know that feel.

otakuryoga
2011-12-17, 01:21 AM
Is it well written? I might actually have to read this one.
Come to think of it, I should try to catch up with the show too...

dont know...he has only a short little prologue up..but says 1st chapter should be up tomorrow

but he had me hooked at the description 8)

Capt. Ido Nos
2011-12-17, 02:14 AM
guys guys guys GUYS GUYS GUYS!

It has SOUND now :'D (http://parallaxmlp.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Loves-her-Lava-Lamp-270265125)

Zevox
2011-12-17, 02:22 AM
guys guys guys GUYS GUYS GUYS!

It has SOUND now :'D (http://parallaxmlp.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Loves-her-Lava-Lamp-270265125)
I love that Derpy. :smallsmile:

Zevox

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-17, 03:35 AM
guys guys guys GUYS GUYS GUYS!

It has SOUND now :'D (http://parallaxmlp.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Loves-her-Lava-Lamp-270265125)

That... that derpy sound... the giggles...

:O

*Is entranced*

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-17, 04:47 AM
Science has proven that this is the best thing ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHOR9_yMakU&feature=related)

Magic has proven that this is the best thing ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OnscBhxSeCk)

fizmat
2011-12-17, 05:28 AM
guys guys guys GUYS GUYS GUYS!

It has SOUND now :'D (http://parallaxmlp.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Loves-her-Lava-Lamp-270265125)

I can't believe I've almost forgotten this existed. It's just so perfectly fitting for any Derpy or Bright Eyes interpretation.

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 06:23 AM
Cool, new thread. Will welcome it with open moogle

http://i.imgur.com/kXiVz.jpg


Anyone here play Wheel of Time or have read the series? I got a Wolfsister named Fiona that I'm playing as close to Flutter shy's personality as I can. Even named my horse Twilight :) Gotta love the insane sense-like skills I got. Had to take several combat feats though to have any real use. Three levels away from taking a feat that lets me talk to any animal, not just wolves.

Also, to any Starcraft fans here, check out this artist. Puts a pony in the image box for certain units, and gives em quotes relative to that unit.

http://yudhaikeledai.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-and-Starcraft-Medivac-Unit-Portrait-272951931

Also as well, Relient K on a pony PMV? Freaking sweet.

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-17, 06:27 AM
Anyone here play Wheel of Time or have read the series? I got a Wolfsister named Fiona that I'm playing as close to Flutter shy's personality as I can. Even named my horse Twilight :) Gotta love the insane sense-like skills I got. Had to take several combat feats though to have any real use. Three levels away from taking a feat that lets me talk to any animal, not just wolves.

I find it bizarre you would use that order.... and you actually have the RPG what a rare find. And a meek female character how un-WoT like of you. (No really I shouldn't say that I hate the flanderization projected unfairly onto the characters of the series)

On one of those strange moments I just started re-reading the series for the upteenth time last night.

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 06:30 AM
I find it bizarre you would use that order.... and you actually have the RPG what a rare find. And a meek female character how un-WoT like of you. (No really I shouldn't say that I hate the flanderization projected unfairly onto the characters of the series)

On one of those strange moments I just started re-reading the series for the upteenth time last night.

Well, ok, a little clarity. I haven't read the books, only the DM and one of our players has. The DM also owns the books that we use, he's an enormous fan. I read the first....two books I think. Perrin as a character is rather exceptionally friendly too, so it's not out of the ordinary. And since I have a Madness rating, I took fits of rage, which fits well kind of with Fluttershy's character.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 06:33 AM
Also I really want to see Celestia get super-protective of Twilight over some threat. Like Fluttershy and the dragon but instead of lecturing him she proceeds to kicks its *** across the entire solar system.

Nopony hurts Celestia's faithful student! Nopony!
(source) (http://felixattchar.deviantart.com/art/Protector-256762412)
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/247/7/e/protector_by_felixattchar-d48vb58.png

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 06:47 AM
Ok, on a PMV kick at the moment, but this one is really well done and one of my favorite bands. (a little language for warning)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJCL2JvvrAA&feature=related

BlasTech
2011-12-17, 07:07 AM
Cool, new thread. Will welcome it with open moogle

http://i.imgur.com/kXiVz.jpg


Anyone here play Wheel of Time or have read the series? I got a Wolfsister named Fiona that I'm playing as close to Flutter shy's personality as I can. Even named my horse Twilight :) Gotta love the insane sense-like skills I got. Had to take several combat feats though to have any real use. Three levels away from taking a feat that lets me talk to any animal, not just wolves.

Also, to any Starcraft fans here, check out this artist. Puts a pony in the image box for certain units, and gives em quotes relative to that unit.

http://yudhaikeledai.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-and-Starcraft-Medivac-Unit-Portrait-272951931

Also as well, Relient K on a pony PMV? Freaking sweet.

I've read the series, re-read it in time for the latest releases but will likely need to refresh again by the time the final book comes out. Never played the game though.

As for those starcraft pony unit cards, seen them bef- ... OH GOD THEY GAVE PINKIE THE THOR!! RUN!! RUNNNNN!!!!! REPENT YOUR LACK OF PARTIES!!!!!!!

(I like how her kill count goes up as she's clicked though)

Ugh, so much pony. Too sleepy to catch up on things today ... sleep time nows.

Soras Teva Gee
2011-12-17, 07:09 AM
Well, ok, a little clarity. I haven't read the books, only the DM and one of our players has. The DM also owns the books that we use, he's an enormous fan. I read the first....two books I think. Perrin as a character is rather exceptionally friendly too, so it's not out of the ordinary. And since I have a Madness rating, I took fits of rage, which fits well kind of with Fluttershy's character.

Well that explains the phrasing then. Read. The. Books.


Nopony hurts Celestia's faithful student! Nopony!
(source) (http://felixattchar.deviantart.com/art/Protector-256762412)
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/247/7/e/protector_by_felixattchar-d48vb58.png

Excuse me I seem to be drool all over my keyboard and can't stop.

Celestia... so badass... best pony.... aarggh.

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 07:21 AM
Well that explains the phrasing then. Read. The. Books.



No!

Eh, I'm not much a reader, but if I would I'd definitely read the series. It's actually more fun this way too. I can't imagine trying to keep information you might know about the characters to yourself, though I'm really good at playing my characters even if I know info out-of-game that I shouldn't. Our player who has read the books, he is not so good at it.

Newman
2011-12-17, 07:26 AM
So, is Celestia protecting HarryTwilight against some sort of ponie zombies? I don't expect a necromancer villain to pop up anytime soon... Huh, this reminded me of a very silly song...

To the tune of "Ghostbusters"

(As performed on the kazoo by Fred and George Weasley,
and sung by Lee Jordan.)

.

There's a Dark Lord near?
Got no need to fear
Who you gonna call?

"HARRY POTTER!" shouted Lee Jordan, and the Weasley twins performed a triumphant chorus.

With a Killing Curse?
Well it could be worse.
Who you gonna call?

"HARRY POTTER!" There were a lot more voices shouting it this time.

The Weasley Horrors went off into an extended wailing, now accompanied by some of the older Muggleborns, who had produced their own tiny devices, Transfigured out of the school silverware no doubt. As their music reached its anticlimax, Harry Potter shouted:

I ain't afraid of Dark Lords!

There was cheering then, especially from the Gryffindor table, and more students produced their own antimusical instruments. The hideous buzzings redoubled in volume and built to another awful crescendo:

I ain't afraid of Dark Lords!

Dark robes and a mask?
Impossible task?
Who you gonna call?
HARRY POTTER!

Giant Fire-Ape?
Old bat in a cape?
Who you gonna call?
HARRY POTTER!

Gamerlord
2011-12-17, 07:44 AM
Another teaser for the new episode was released. *Spoilers* (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/12/another-hearth-warming-teaser.html)

Aotrs Commander
2011-12-17, 08:06 AM
So, is Celestia protecting HarryTwilight against some sort of ponie zombies? I don't expect a necromancer villain to pop up anytime soon... Huh, this reminded me of a very silly song...

To the tune of "Ghostbusters"

(As performed on the kazoo by Fred and George Weasley,
and sung by Lee Jordan.)

.

There's a Dark Lord near?
Got no need to fear
Who you gonna call?

"HARRY POTTER!" shouted Lee Jordan, and the Weasley twins performed a triumphant chorus.

With a Killing Curse?
Well it could be worse.
Who you gonna call?

"HARRY POTTER!" There were a lot more voices shouting it this time.

The Weasley Horrors went off into an extended wailing, now accompanied by some of the older Muggleborns, who had produced their own tiny devices, Transfigured out of the school silverware no doubt. As their music reached its anticlimax, Harry Potter shouted:

I ain't afraid of Dark Lords!

There was cheering then, especially from the Gryffindor table, and more students produced their own antimusical instruments. The hideous buzzings redoubled in volume and built to another awful crescendo:

I ain't afraid of Dark Lords!

Dark robes and a mask?
Impossible task?
Who you gonna call?
HARRY POTTER!

Giant Fire-Ape?
Old bat in a cape?
Who you gonna call?
HARRY POTTER!


WIN.

I'm so going to link this in the current Harry Potter debate thread...

Newman
2011-12-17, 08:08 AM
THERE HAS BEEN TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT! GREAT DISCOVERY: VAPOR ENGINES ARE MORE EFFICIENT THAN HAVING PONIES PULL THE TRAIN!

That Hat. Where is Rarity and what have you done with her, you garish imposter?

That said... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oFEgp1CinBo)

Bronies are mostly troll-proof... at least against unimaginative trolls (http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-love-and-tolerance.png) like this one.

http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-this-was-kinda-predicted.png

http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-dr-strangehoof.jpg

http://chzbronies.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-brony-times-are-changing-for-the-better.jpg

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/332/d/9/dovahkiin_pony_by_felixattchar-d4hlgkm.png

Kyouhen
2011-12-17, 09:46 AM
Pony all the ponies.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

http://www.watchcartoononline.com/thumbs/My-Little-Pony-Friendship-Is-Magic-Season-2-Episode-8-The-Mysterious-Mare-Do-Well.jpg

Trixie
2011-12-17, 09:59 AM
You making this reply post 69 was deliberate or random irony? :smalltongue:

Also, new Ep in a min ^^"

otakuryoga
2011-12-17, 10:00 AM
Joy to the world, Pony is here
let earth receive their joy
And Pinkie and Flutter sing, and Pinkie and Flutter sing
and Pinkie and Pinkie and Flutter sii--ii--ng

Onward to new pony!!

Bayonet Priest
2011-12-17, 10:03 AM
Also, new Ep in a min ^^"

Quite. Although today I don't have access to the Hub so I'll have to wait for Youtube like the common folk that I am :smalltongue:

Guess I'll have to kill a couple hours killing some templars. *just rented Assassin's Creed Revelations, pretty good so far*

Kyouhen
2011-12-17, 10:03 AM
You making this reply post 69 was deliberate or random irony? :smalltongue:

Also, new Ep in a min ^^"

...Random irony, RANDOM IRONY!
Except I'm not even sure it's ironic...

Castaras
2011-12-17, 10:03 AM
Oh pinkie, you so silly. I coulda sworn you play Eye Spy a different way. :smalltongue:

Kyouhen
2011-12-17, 10:11 AM
Oh pinkie, you so silly. I coulda sworn you play Eye Spy a different way. :smalltongue:

New Ep

Nonsense! First you spy something, then you eat it! I've never known any other way to play it.

Also, there, Earth Ponies are farmers. Other ponies can't do it. Mystery solved. :smalltongue:

Trixie
2011-12-17, 10:14 AM
Quite. Although today I don't have access to the Hub so I'll have to wait for Youtube like the common folk that I am :smalltongue:

Hiss! Come join the HD side of the Pony! http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg


...Random irony, RANDOM IRONY!
Except I'm not even sure it's ironic...

Well... Look at the word in the title 'pony' replaced, then at your post? :smalltongue:

Castaras
2011-12-17, 10:21 AM
New Ep

Nonsense! First you spy something, then you eat it! I've never known any other way to play it.

Also, there, Earth Ponies are farmers. Other ponies can't do it. Mystery solved. :smalltongue:


Well I suppose it makes sense. :3

Fluttershy - ADORABLE. Fus ro YAY is canon!! :smallamused:

Kyouhen
2011-12-17, 10:21 AM
Well... Look at the word in the title 'pony' replaced, then at your post? :smalltongue:

Yeah, I see it now. Forgot that little part. :smallredface:

Also!

New Ep

Pinkie Pie is best ruler. That is all.

HalfTangible
2011-12-17, 10:22 AM
Hiss! Come join the HD side of the Pony! http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg



Well... Look at the word in the title 'pony' replaced, then at your post? :smalltongue:

Do not resist, Bayonet... it is YOUR DESTINY...

(I might watch it if I knew what channel it was on *grumble* guess I'll wait for either the Hub or YouTube to upload it)

Kyouhen
2011-12-17, 10:31 AM
Do not resist, Bayonet... it is YOUR DESTINY...

(I might watch it if I knew what channel it was on *grumble* guess I'll wait for either the Hub or YouTube to upload it)

There are streams of it. It's just started again actually. I watched it over here. http://www.justin.tv/haxmega#/w/2259332112

Also

New Ep

Now I need to know why the flag has Luna and Celestia on it when they weren't around at the time...

Deadly
2011-12-17, 10:33 AM
Huh...

New episode
Seemed like a really fun and excellent episode, but... not really what I expected. And it kinda leaves a lot unanswered... so many new questions

Where the heck did Celestia and Luna come from? How could they be on the Equestria banner if this took place before their rule?

I'll have more thoughts when I've seen it again, I'm sure

Pinkie and Fluttershy are so awesome, though

Castel
2011-12-17, 10:36 AM
New episode:

That was awesome. Though I'd like to know how Celestia and Luna came to be rulers, but I'm glad it's now canon that ponies managed the Sun and Moon without them, stripping them of some of their much hated(by me, at least) fan-appointed divinity.

And that song. The corniness. It was beautiful. :smallbiggrin: I loved this episode.

otakuryoga
2011-12-17, 10:40 AM
first thoughts---

1) Derpy spotted in the 1st train car
-- OW, my ears...not SO LOUD Fluttershy!

2) Jet Set/ Upper Crust callback

3) another Derpy sighting

4)Kazoos instead of trumpets for olde tyme Pinkie

5) white coated Derp-eyed earth pony in past
--im sure someone will come up with a fic about the mystical powers of the Derp-eye bloodline shortly

6) pratfall Fluttershy....HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG

7) hurr hurr Rarity riding Twilight

8) at least she didnt say Bedazzled

9) Celestia/Luna on the flag before they were met?
--fuel for the school of thought that says deities are created/powered by faith

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 10:42 AM
Huh...

New episode
Seemed like a really fun and excellent episode, but... not really what I expected. And it kinda leaves a lot unanswered... so many new questions

Where the heck did Celestia and Luna come from? How could they be on the Equestria banner if this took place before their rule?

I'll have more thoughts when I've seen it again, I'm sure

Pinkie and Fluttershy are so awesome, though


The banner is probably something they had lying around that they used, not something historically accurate.

I was rather disappointed overall in the episode. Not because no REAL questions were answered, but because as a whole the story just kind of sucked. The ending felt really rushed, like it could have been a two-parter but was cut down to 22 minutes. There were some great jokes indeed, mostly from Pinkie Pie, and Spike trying for a (British?) accent. The first two acts set up the story, which was rushed at the end. Gief better plot please.


But, did we just hear Lyra talk?

Diego Havoc
2011-12-17, 10:42 AM
guys guys guys GUYS GUYS GUYS!

It has SOUND now :'D (http://parallaxmlp.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Loves-her-Lava-Lamp-270265125)
Marvelous! That cute giggle makes it perfect!


Also, to any Starcraft fans here, check out this artist. Puts a pony in the image box for certain units, and gives em quotes relative to that unit.

http://yudhaikeledai.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-and-Starcraft-Medivac-Unit-Portrait-272951931
I hadn't seen the Pinkie one before. I laughed so hard at that!

Episode 11, copy/pasted from Canterlot.com, 'cos I'm lazy.
Look! Its Canterlot! :D

That we've been to dozens of times already! :D

Unicorns raising the sun and moon!?

Whu-

Buh-

WHAAAAAAAT?

I like how the pegasi were all military. That's pretty cool.

Star Swirl reference!

Rarity and her rocks XD

Windigo? Interesting.

...

WHERE ARE THE PRINCESSES!?

Well, a fun episode all around! I'm glad Fluttershy didn't chicken out! Pity about the lack of Celestia and Luna. I really want to know how they came around to taking the day/night cycle from the unicorns. But maybe this is a good thing! They can now devote an enitre episode to the Princesses' backstories! (yeah, yeah, I know it won't happen. A man can dream).

Sudden random thought: That's NOT how you play eye-spy!

Deadly
2011-12-17, 10:49 AM
The banner is probably something they had lying around that they used, not something historically accurate.

I was rather disappointed overall in the episode. Not because no REAL questions were answered, but because a as whole the story just kind of sucked. The ending felt really rushed, like it could have been a two-parter but was cut down to 22 minutes. There were some great jokes indeed, mostly from Pinkie Pie, and Spike trying for a (British?) accent. The first two acts set up the story, which was rushed at the end. Gief better plot please.

New Episode
It actually seems like the kind of vague myth you'd expect after thousands of years, probably rife with historical inaccuracies. Perhaps this is actually the tale about Celestia and Luna defeating Discord, as it is now remembered by ponies and not as it really happened.

Maybe Celestia and Luna were the actual "unicorn" rulers, who with their earth pony and pegasus friends found friendship and defeated Discord (not windigos). Or something like that.

I'm sure the writers intentionally left the story very vague and not really explaining much, to give the fandom something to work with. Fuel for wild ideas.

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 10:52 AM
New Episode
It actually seems like the kind of vague myth you'd expect after thousands of years, probably rife with historical inaccuracies. Perhaps this is actually the tale about Celestia and Luna defeating Discord, as it is now remembered by ponies and not as it really happened.

Maybe Celestia and Luna were the actual "unicorn" rulers, who with their earth pony and pegasus friends found friendship and defeated Discord (not windigos). Or something like that.

I'm sure the writers intentionally left the story very vague and not really explaining much, to give the fandom something to work with. Fuel for wild ideas.

That's ironic, because a friend from my other forum refuses to pass the episode off as canon. Which, is kind of stupid really. The flags and the names are ridiculous enough to be different historically, but there's nothing saying the story itself can't be accurate. We know Celestia and Luna didn't rule Equestria when it was founded, so it's very possible that they weren't there for it either.

I do have a problem with the "windigos" though. Wendigos are basically abomnibal snowmen, and I'm guessing that's where the name came from. Those things were...kind of drake looking.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 10:56 AM
That's ironic, because a friend from my other forum refuses to pass the episode off as canon. Which, is kind of stupid really. The flags and the names are ridiculous enough to be different historically, but there's nothing saying the story itself can't be accurate. We know Celestia and Luna didn't rule Equestria when it was founded, so it's very possible that they weren't there for it either.

I do have a problem with the "windigos" though. Wendigos are basically abomnibal snowmen, and I'm guessing that's where the name came from. Those things were...kind of drake looking.


What we know, if Celestia can be expected to have told the truth, is that she and Luna defeated Discord after discovering the Elements. It seems that this is a story about ponies discovering the Elements, after overcoming the hate and discord between them. Seem familiar?

We don't know that Celestia and Luna didn't found Equestria. All we know for certain is that Discord apparently ruled for a while before Equestria was formally founded.

vegetalss4
2011-12-17, 10:58 AM
New episode

Lets see,
Episode weakens the "Divine Sisters" theory, through it doesn't outright disprove it, by mentioning that the unicorns brought night and day back before Celestia and Luna did.

interesting how each nation was ruled, what with the Earth Pony Republic (the chancellor was elected), the Pegasi military dictatorship and the unicorn monarchy, I wonder if there still are traces of it in the modern day Equestria.

I wonder if windigo's still exist or if they was driven to extinction due to a lack of hatred to feed on.

another interesting thing is to consider which parts of the play are historical truth and which parts was put in because it made the play a better play?

Possibly theories for the flag:
1) The sisters did exist back then even through they didn't rule yet, and was then put on because the tree tribes all saw the divinity in them.
2) the play merely used the modern Equestrian flag because that is what the audience would recognize.
3) it used Alicorns to symbolize the unity between the tribes and it is merely coincidence that it looked like the sisters.

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 11:00 AM
new eps...

Pony historians assemble!!!

first let me say that this episode is... not the best for me, but it is typical holiday episode fare and not really bad.

now from previous episode we know that there was a Paleopony age, probably he earliest recorded pony history. We know that cutie pox was first shown at this time, likely ponies have just a gathering culture (no hunters) and trying new plants caused the pox.

Then it seems the different pony races started developing tribal structure, the rudimentry trade of goods (food) for services (weather and day/night) a barter system with no monetary system established.
This is the Pre-classical era, as evidenced by the unicorn twilight was playing saying "my mentor, Starswirl the bearded" right before Equestria was properly established, and the first discovery of friendship magic.

Evidence suggest that this peace is followed by the calamity known as Discord. This Discordian age is no doubt a confusing time with little records due to the pure chaos of the time.

Classical era was no doubt brought forth by the Alicorn sisters, with either the discovery or forging of the elements of harmony. the rule of the sisters no doubt brought untold pony advances, unfortunately...

The Nightmare war followed due to the corruption by jealousy. no doubt this time period is a sad time for all ponies.

with the victory of Celestia a thousand year of pony peace follows, bringing further pony advances as we enter the modern pony age.

Now the actual episode response:
- Pegasi warrior race yes!
- Star swirl mention!!!
- Winterghasts? did I hear that right?
- Discovery of friendship magic!!
- the flag!?! what the..!?! mind broken
- ok song is ok...
- I wonder if the threat of Winterghasts are always present?

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 11:02 AM
What we know, if Celestia can be expected to have told the truth, is that she and Luna defeated Discord after discovering the Elements. It seems that this is a story about ponies discovering the Elements, after overcoming the hate and discord between them. Seem familiar?

We don't know that Celestia and Luna didn't found Equestria. All we know for certain is that Discord apparently ruled for a while before Equestria was formally founded.

I don't buy it. Celestia hand-picking them to reenact a play that isn't factual, but a very vague retelling of her escapades with her sis and Discord? Nope, not gonna buy that. The fanon can do what they want, that's just hogwash to me.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-17, 11:03 AM
Well, that's about an hour for new episode fanart to appear. Goodness, this is a quick fandom:
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/20353407cb1175f09f232d2ad454e9e1/99612%20-%20artist%3Axuncu%20hearth%27s_warming_eve%20mane_ 6.jpg

Athaniar
2011-12-17, 11:06 AM
First, I'll just leave this (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/12/derpy-officially-named.html) here.

Also, Random Episode Thoughts

Not bad, despite the lack of Celestia/Luna. Lore is always fun. Pegasus Tribe was madness Sparta. Awesome. Commander Hurricane (awesome name, too) needs fanart, now. Wendigos/windigos (the second, punny one actually being closer to the original name, if the Great Wiki isn't deceiving me) are really cool (heh). Are they related to Discord? Also, this episode means there should be a frozen wasteland full of ancient, long-abandoned ruins somewhere. Oh, the potential! And I love the continuity with Star Swirl.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 11:07 AM
I don't buy it. Celestia hand-picking them to reenact a play that isn't factual, but a very vague retelling of her escapades with her sis and Discord? Nope, not gonna buy that. The fanon can do what they want, that's just hogwash to me.

Why would she object? The spirit and lesson of the tale remains the same, and maybe is clearer and easier to understand than what actually happened. It's not like legends in the real world tend to be very factual.

I'm not saying this is the only way you could explain it, just that it's a possible perspective on it. Kairaven's explanation seems to make some sense to me as well, though it does raise the question of where the royal sisters came from.

And that's my point, they wrote the story this way to not cement any one explanation in stone, to leave it open to speculation. To make it easier to write further stories based on it, both for their own sake and for ours no doubt.

Newman
2011-12-17, 11:07 AM
Here is a dsgustingly funny idea. Imagine in your mind a pony who wants a pet, but is volountarily in jail as a potential sex offender. Fluttershy convinces him he should get a hedgehog. When he asks why, she sings him the Hedgehog Song.

vegetalss4
2011-12-17, 11:08 AM
new eps...

Pony historians assemble!!!

first let me say that this episode is... not the best for me, but it is typical holiday episode fare and not really bad.

now from previous episode we know that there was a Paleopony age, probably he earliest recorded pony history. We know that cuti pox was first shown at this time, likely ponies have just a gathering culture (no hunters) and trying new plants caused the pox.

Then it seems the different pony races started developing tribal sructure, the rudimentry trade of goods (food) for services (weather and day/night) a barter system with no monetary system established.
This is the Pre-classical era, as evidenced by the unicorn twilight was playing saying "my mentor, Starswirl the bearded" right before equestria was properly established, and the first discovery of friendship magic.

Evidence suggest that this peace is followed by the calamity know as Discord. This Discordian age is no doubt a confusing time with little records due to the pure chaos of the time.

Classical era was no doubt brought forth by the Alicorn sisters, with either the discovery or forging of the elements of harmony. the rule of teh sisters no doubt brought untold pony advances, unfortunately...

The Nightmare war followed due to the corruption of jealousy. no doubt this time period is a sad time for all ponies.

withe the victory of Celestia a thousand year of pony peace follows bringing further pony advances as we enter the modern pony age.

Now the actual episode response:
- Pegasi warrior race yes!
- Star swirl mention!!!
- Winterghasts? did I hear that right?
- Discovery of friendship magic!!
- the flag!?! what the..!?! mind broken
- ok song is ok...
- I wonder if the threat of Winterghasts are always present?


personally I would place the pre-classical era as the time up until the founding of Equestria, making the classical Era the period of time after Equestrias founding and until Discords reign.
The rule of Celestia and Luna would then begin the modern era.

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 11:13 AM
Why would she object? The spirit and lesson of the tale remains the same, and maybe is clearer and easier to understand than what actually happened. It's not like legends in the real world tend to be very factual.

I'm not saying this is the only way you could explain it, just that it's a possible perspective on it. Kairaven's explanation seems to make some sense to me as well, though it does raise the question of where the royal sisters came from.

And that's my point, they wrote the story this way to not cement any one explanation in stone, to leave it open to speculation. To make it easier to write further stories based on it, both for their own sake and for ours no doubt.


Pretty bad reason to complain about fanon though.

I just don't see Celestia and Luna sitting in the castle and having this conversation:

"Hey, they're doing that play again about us beating Discord, thinking it's about the founding of Equestria.

"Eh, let me keep thinking it. It's a nice story"

Meh.

Though one thing seems very possible now: Equestria isn't the name of the planet, and there are probably other areas not controlled by ponies.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 11:19 AM
Pretty bad reason to complain about fanon though.

I just don't see Celestia and Luna sitting in the castle and having this conversation:

"Hey, they're doing that play again about us beating Discord, thinking it's about the founding of Equestria.

"Eh, let me keep thinking it. It's a nice story"

Meh.

Though one thing seems very possible now: Equestria isn't the name of the planet, and there are probably other areas not controlled by ponies.

Complain about fanon?

Maybe some ponies do know the real story, but maybe the masses just like that old story for sentimental reasons. Maybe they all know it's not completely true, but it's just a tradition. Celestia seems to very much like to leave ponies to learn on their own rather than just teaching them. Maybe she hasn't told them everything because that'd defeat the purpose of historians.

And I think Faust said long ago that Equestria was more like a country or something. It's been the general assumption for a long time at least.

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 11:20 AM
personally I would place the pre-classical era as the time up until the founding of Equestria, making the classical Era the period of time after Equestrias founding and until Discords reign.
The rule of Celestia and Luna would then begin the modern era.


You are right, although I still think there should be a separation of age period before and after the nightmare wars. perhaps pre-war should be dubbed the harmonic age? Or perhaps that the release of Luna and teh rediscovery of the elements of harmony make the current pony era, the age of harmony?

Tiki Snakes
2011-12-17, 11:23 AM
Here is a dsgustingly funny idea. Imagine in your mind a pony who wants a pet, but is volountarily in jail as a potential sex offender. Fluttershy convinces him he should get a hedgehog. When he asks why, she sings him the Hedgehog Song.

Um. :smalleek:
I think my brain broke.

Kyouhen
2011-12-17, 11:38 AM
The banner is probably something they had lying around that they used, not something historically accurate.


New Ep

Actually, this would make sense. The CMC were in the audience, and I doubt they would recognize the original flag used. Easier to use a flag everypony recognizes so they don't have to worry about explaining the history of the flag.



That's ironic, because a friend from my other forum refuses to pass the episode off as canon. Which, is kind of stupid really. The flags and the names are ridiculous enough to be different historically, but there's nothing saying the story itself can't be accurate. We know Celestia and Luna didn't rule Equestria when it was founded, so it's very possible that they weren't there for it either.


New Ep

Inorite? Those names were absolutely absurd. Earth? Why in their right mind would name anything Earth? I am disappoint Smart Cookie, you could have at least settled for Bob.



What we know, if Celestia can be expected to have told the truth, is that she and Luna defeated Discord after discovering the Elements. It seems that this is a story about ponies discovering the Elements, after overcoming the hate and discord between them. Seem familiar?

We don't know that Celestia and Luna didn't found Equestria. All we know for certain is that Discord apparently ruled for a while before Equestria was formally founded.

New Ep

Alternatively it's possible there was a reason that pristine land hadn't previously been settled. Or perhaps the Windigos are only one type of creature that feeds on hatred and disharmony. Perhaps the peace in Equestria didn't last as long as the ponies may have liked and they ended up attracting the attention of a new horror.



new eps...

Pony historians assemble!!!

first let me say that this episode is... not the best for me, but it is typical holiday episode fare and not really bad.

now from previous episode we know that there was a Paleopony age, probably he earliest recorded pony history. We know that cutie pox was first shown at this time, likely ponies have just a gathering culture (no hunters) and trying new plants caused the pox.

Then it seems the different pony races started developing tribal structure, the rudimentry trade of goods (food) for services (weather and day/night) a barter system with no monetary system established.
This is the Pre-classical era, as evidenced by the unicorn twilight was playing saying "my mentor, Starswirl the bearded" right before Equestria was properly established, and the first discovery of friendship magic.

Evidence suggest that this peace is followed by the calamity known as Discord. This Discordian age is no doubt a confusing time with little records due to the pure chaos of the time.

Classical era was no doubt brought forth by the Alicorn sisters, with either the discovery or forging of the elements of harmony. the rule of the sisters no doubt brought untold pony advances, unfortunately...

The Nightmare war followed due to the corruption by jealousy. no doubt this time period is a sad time for all ponies.

with the victory of Celestia a thousand year of pony peace follows, bringing further pony advances as we enter the modern pony age.

Now the actual episode response:
- Pegasi warrior race yes!
- Star swirl mention!!!
- Winterghasts? did I hear that right?
- Discovery of friendship magic!!
- the flag!?! what the..!?! mind broken
- ok song is ok...
- I wonder if the threat of Winterghasts are always present?


New Ep

I'm starting to see a pattern here. Ponies start fighting, Windigos appear. Ponies stop fighting, Windigos go away. Ponies start fighting, Discord appears. Ponies stop fighting, Discord goes away. Ponies start fighting, Nightmare Moon Appears. Ponies stop fighting, Nightmare Moon goes away.

Starting to see why Equestria is such a happy place. Maybe the armies were disbanded for fear of a war causing the next calamity. :smalltongue:



First, I'll just leave this (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/12/derpy-officially-named.html) here.


I'm honestly a touch shocked that they actually settled on Derpy as the name. I mean, I think it's a great name and that it's adorable and have no intention of using anything else. It's just kind of odd to see a company actually name something Derpy. :smalltongue:

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Also am I the only one who thought the death of the Windigos was kinda violent? :smalleek: Really cool and all, but still kind of violent for the ponies so far. Mostly the part where they were flailing in the fire.

PhantomFox
2011-12-17, 11:40 AM
Episode thoughts
In regards to nitpicking, as mentioned, the flag shown is the current flag of Equestria. It's used since the audience is more familiar with it. I guess it's similar to some plays using more modern versions of the American Flag when the design may not be accurate for the era.

As for the raising of the sun and moon, I believe they said unicorns, plural. It probably took a whole group of their strongest mages to do it, and Celestia and Luna are powerful enough to do it by themselves.

Overall, I enjoyed this episode for what it was, worldbuilding. The mane cast played the parts very nicely. Not as filling as an episode of character development, but still tasty. Just a different flavor.

vegetalss4
2011-12-17, 11:43 AM
You are right, although I still think there should be a separation of age period before and after the nightmare wars. perhaps pre-war should be dubbed the harmonic age? Or perhaps that the release of Luna and teh rediscovery of the elements of harmony make the current pony era, the age of harmony?


We could call the pre-war era the Age of Harmony, and then shift either to the Modern Age or the Celestial Age for the time where Celestia ruled by herself.
Or perhaps one could call the pre-war era the Celestial era, with the origional intend being to refer to both the sisters, through Celestials meaning as "heavenly" (as in sky), with this being one of the things which resulted in Luna being consumed by jealousy.


Complain about fanon?

Maybe some ponies do know the real story, but maybe the masses just like that old story for sentimental reasons. Maybe they all know it's not completely true, but it's just a tradition. Celestia seems to very much like to leave ponies to learn on their own rather than just teaching them. Maybe she hasn't told them everything because that'd defeat the purpose of historians.

And I think Faust said long ago that Equestria was more like a country or something. It's been the general assumption for a long time at least.
Personally I aren't buying that this myth is about Discord being overthrown, for one thing the story don't really look like it at all, what with discord missing and there instead being ice monsters, no Celestia or Luna, nor are the element present (neither named, nor is there an physical vessel like there was the other times). Really the only similarity is that in both cases a treat to ponydom was defeated using friendship magic.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 11:55 AM
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Alternatively it's possible there was a reason that pristine land hadn't previously been settled. Or perhaps the Windigos are only one type of creature that feeds on hatred and disharmony. Perhaps the peace in Equestria didn't last as long as the ponies may have liked and they ended up attracting the attention of a new horror.


Yeah, there are probably plenty of ways to explain everything, which was kinda all I'm trying to say.

I'm really not sure what to make of this episode yet. I'm not sure I like my own idea either, I'm just mentioning it as one possible explanation. On one hand I like that they didn't explain everything but left it open to speculation. On the other hand I really wish they'd explain some things that are now even more open to debate than before.

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 11:57 AM
We could call the pre-war era the Age of Harmony, and then shift either to the Modern Age or the Celestial Age for the time where Celestia ruled by herself.
Or perhaps one could call the pre-war era the Celestial era, with the origional intend being to refer to both the sisters, through Celestials meaning as "heavenly" (as in sky), with this being one of the things which resulted in Luna being consumed by jealousy.



I like it, so we have:

Paleopony age
Pre-classical era
Classical era
Discordian age
Age of Harmony
The Nightmare War
Celestial age
Modern pony era

also an insane heretical theory

Discord unwittingly caused his own down fall by mixing pony genetics during the Discordian Age and inadvertently created the Alicorns. who's vast magical power comes into focus with the magic of friendship to forge the elements of harmony.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-17, 12:24 PM
First, I'll just leave this (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/12/derpy-officially-named.html) here.

Official, my flank! Hub is not Hasbro! When they call her Derpy in the show, then she will be officially Derpy.

Seriously though, they'll never give her a real name. :P

Gaelbert
2011-12-17, 12:36 PM
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I don't have time to read through everyponies' comments right now, so I'll just post my initial thoughts.
An adequate amount of Rarity swag. I approve. Also, more ham. I still approve.
Did everypony catch Derpy and the Doctor towards the beginning? That was nifty.
And on a more important note, my fanon wasn't destroyed. That's a little bit of a disappointment actually, I was hoping it would all get wrecked. Oh well.
Oh, also, that was a pleasant song. I think I'll be caroling that if I get the chance.

Anarion
2011-12-17, 12:44 PM
I like it, so we have:

Paleopony age
Pre-classical era
Classical era
Discordian age
Age of Harmony
The Nightmare War
Celestial age
Modern pony era

also an insane heretical theory

Discord unwittingly caused his own down fall by mixing pony genetics during the Discordian Age and inadvertently created the Alicorns. who's vast magical power comes into focus with the magic of friendship to forge the elements of harmony.

Pony History
Let me make sure I understand the above in concert with your insane theory. Luna and Celestia would not exist from the Paleopony through to the Discordian age. Would the Elements of Harmony still exist (possibly created in their first form to fend off the Windigos) and predate the Alicorns in that case? If not, did the fledgling nation continue to develop military pegasi and unicorn magic during the classical era until they all proved impotent against Discord?

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I'm going with the flag simply being the current Equestrian Flag because it would make the play take too long to be historically accurate. Barring Karaiven's madness, however, I do think this story leaves us with a lot more questions than answers. In particular, it's hard to imagine how Alicorns initially appeared and took up the responsibility of controlling the sun and moon unless they really were some kind of mutant branch of unicorns.

As for other stuff, Pinkie Pie gets all the jokes. I've been enjoying her a lot this season because she seems to steal the spotlight with her comedy in every scene where she appears.

They apparently used the castle interior for the play but Luna and Celestia were nowhere to be found. Not sure what to make of that in connection with their total absence in the story as well.

I'm pretty sure Lyra got a line. Her voice almost fit with how I imagined she would sound, too!

Diego Havoc
2011-12-17, 12:47 PM
According to Lauren Faust, Spike was raised by Celestia, not Twilight.
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/2b43b9c2b6a411a1368ba275089a4c46/99663%20-%20comment%20deviantart%20lauren_faust%20origin%20 spike%20word_of_faust.jpg
There's your broken fanon right there. :smalltongue:

Anarion
2011-12-17, 12:51 PM
According to Lauren Faust, Spike was raised by Celestia, not Twilight.
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/2b43b9c2b6a411a1368ba275089a4c46/99663%20-%20comment%20deviantart%20lauren_faust%20origin%20 spike%20word_of_faust.jpg
There's your broken fanon right there. :smalltongue:

Doesn't break too much, although it certainly leans heavily towards the entrance exam being a Kobayashi Maru (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnwinnableTrainingSimulation) scenario. (Obligatory warning that I linked to tvtropes, so don't click if you're short on time).

Deadly
2011-12-17, 12:59 PM
Other episode stuff
I'm going with the flag simply being the current Equestrian Flag because it would make the play take too long to be historically accurate. Barring Karaiven's madness, however, I do think this story leaves us with a lot more questions than answers. In particular, it's hard to imagine how Alicorns initially appeared and took up the responsibility of controlling the sun and moon unless they really were some kind of mutant branch of unicorns.

As for other stuff, Pinkie Pie gets all the jokes. I've been enjoying her a lot this season because she seems to steal the spotlight with her comedy in every scene where she appears.

They apparently used the castle interior for the play but Luna and Celestia were nowhere to be found. Not sure what to make of that in connection with their total absence in the story as well.

I'm pretty sure Lyra got a line. Her voice almost fit with how I imagined she would sound, too!

Yeah, I'm really starting to wonder why they seem to leave out Celestia and Luna even in scenes where their presence seems like it should be an obvious choice.

I really wish they'd give those two a little more attention and some more appearances. Just as background ponies where it makes sense, if nothing else.

I'm also a little sad that this episode seems to only add new stuff, it doesn't deal with any of the things that have previously been mentioned of Equestria's history.

It's a nice episode, but... It just seems odd in what it leaves out.

Gamerlord
2011-12-17, 12:59 PM
Thoughts on the new episode:
It was good. Not my favorite, but as far as Christmas specials go it was pretty good. It does raise a lot of questions, as I predicted, it was vague. The whole "Celestia and Luna are gods" theory takes a bit of a blow. Speaking of those two, where were they during the play? You think they would attend......
...
...
Wait a minute, Twilight's character mentioned Star Swirl was her mentor, and Luna implied she knew Star Swirl....despite apparently not existing at that point in time. Then again, maybe Luna is a bookworm like Twi.



According to Lauren Faust, Spike was raised by Celestia, not Twilight.
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/2b43b9c2b6a411a1368ba275089a4c46/99663%20-%20comment%20deviantart%20lauren_faust%20origin%20 spike%20word_of_faust.jpg
There's your broken fanon right there. :smalltongue:
So Spike's mother figure is a extremely powerful sorceress/possible deity and his big sister is a walking nuke? Spike has an awesome family.

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 01:03 PM
Pony History
Let me make sure I understand the above in concert with your insane theory. Luna and Celestia would not exist from the Paleopony through to the Discordian age. Would the Elements of Harmony still exist (possibly created in their first form to fend off the Windigos) and predate the Alicorns in that case? If not, did the fledgling nation continue to develop military pegasi and unicorn magic during the classical era until they all proved impotent against Discord?



well, though the ponies continued to practice friendship magic, it is still mostly a mysterious force that manifest itself occationally. Discord knows how to distract ponies from practicing friendship.
It wasn't until he, in a moment of boredom, decide to combine different pony races together for fun, that powerful alicorn wa created. Discord just thought of them as choatic creations and treated them much like how he treats other ponies.
However as a few Alicorn grew up, they grew powerful and fought against Discord, It is at this time that a pair of alicorn siblings were able to focus and harness the mysterous friendship magic and forge the element of harmony.

And that's HOW ALICORNS ARE MADE!

wait! who are you? what are you doing? no...aaaahgg..
..............

The above heretical and subversive statments and the pony that made them have been apprehended by the Equestrian Inquisition. We like to inform the public that the above is pure falsehood and that there is only the High Royal Sisters.

All Hail the God Emporesses!
Now move along citizen!

Topaz
2011-12-17, 01:24 PM
Kairaven is my Pony Historian! http://i.imgur.com/G5T9W.png
Seriously, the whining and straw-grasping I'm seeing online about this episode is kind of pathetic. http://i.imgur.com/twJKI.png
So Equestria was founded long before the reign of Celestia and Luna. Why is that so traumatic a notion to so many bronies? http://i.imgur.com/JmPL5.png

Official, my flank! Hub is not Hasbro! When they call her Derpy in the show, then she will be officially Derpy.
Um, that's The Hub's Facebook page. Seems pretty official to me.


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Did everypony catch Derpy and the Doctor towards the beginning? That was nifty.
Different cutie mark on the stallion, though.

Anarion
2011-12-17, 01:34 PM
Kairaven is my Pony Historian! http://i.imgur.com/G5T9W.png
Seriously, the whining and straw-grasping I'm seeing online about this episode is kind of pathetic. http://i.imgur.com/twJKI.png
So Equestria was founded long before the reign of Celestia and Luna. Why is that so traumatic a notion to so many bronies? http://i.imgur.com/JmPL5.png



Well, the issue is that many people really did consider Celestia and Luna to be actual gods. Small g, so they're not omnipotent by any means, but if you look at the creation myths of most ancient cultures (e.g. Greek, Hindu, Egyption etc.) they all involve the gods appearing first and creating or controlling the world, then people come around much later.

This play, if you take it at face value, implies that not only did regular ponies predate Alicorns, but that unicorns controlled the sun and moon before Luna and Celestia were around. That suddenly makes the Alicorns look like usurpers who either took over the world or were forced to assume power in order to fight Discord (or for some other disaster). Either way, it changes the perception of Celestia and Luna and leads to troubling questions about whether most ponies even know how they came to power or want them to be there.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 01:37 PM
Kairaven is my Pony Historian! http://i.imgur.com/G5T9W.png
Seriously, the whining and straw-grasping I'm seeing online about this episode is kind of pathetic. http://i.imgur.com/twJKI.png
So Equestria was founded long before the reign of Celestia and Luna. Why is that so traumatic a notion to so many bronies? http://i.imgur.com/JmPL5.png

My only concern is that is raises so many questions about Celestia and Luna. I don't think I have a real problem with this story as such, I just more than ever wish for an episode to explain their history now.

Anyway, this episode was written by Merriwether Williams, who also wrote the Mare Do Well episode. I kinda feel bad for her that her episodes seem to cause so much... discussion.

They're not bad episodes. But this one sure does raise questions, and probably sits a little uncomfortably with many.

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 01:47 PM
true non heretical theory:

Alicorns are gods, and were always worshiped by ponies though never did they appear physically, except maybe to devout worshippers. And that is why they were represented on the first Equestrian flag.

But during the Discordian Age, the hope and fervent prayers of ponies mixed with the ancient friendship magic, and thus the perfect fusion of all pony races are made manifest, in fact, they are friendship magic incarnate. There should be no doubt to their divinity or their divine right to rule.

There, I said it, can I be let go now?

edit: frankly this makes the origin of Celestia and Luna that much closer to How the Emperor of Mankind were created. 40k Pony Canon?

Mando Knight
2011-12-17, 02:03 PM
true non heretical theory:

Alicorns are gods, and were always worshiped by ponies though never did they appear physically, except maybe to devout worshippers. And that is why they were represented on the first Equestrian flag.

But during the Discordian Age, the hope and fervent prayers of ponies mixed with the ancient friendship magic, and thus the perfect fusion of all pony races are made manifest, in fact, they are friendship magic incarnate. There should be no doubt to their divinity or their divine right to rule.

There, I said it, can I be let go now?

edit: frankly this makes the origin of Celestia and Luna that much closer to How the Emperor of Mankind were created. 40k Pony Canon?

I like this theory. Fills the plot holes raised by the episode.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 02:10 PM
true non heretical theory:

Alicorns are gods, and were always worshiped by ponies though never did they appear physically, except maybe to devout worshippers. And that is why they were represented on the first Equestrian flag.

But during the Discordian Age, the hope and fervent prayers of ponies mixed with the ancient friendship magic, and thus the perfect fusion of all pony races are made manifest, in fact, they are friendship magic incarnate. There should be no doubt to their divinity or their divine right to rule.

There, I said it, can I be let go now?

edit: frankly this makes the origin of Celestia and Luna that much closer to How the Emperor of Mankind were created. 40k Pony Canon?


I like that theory too. Makes everything good again :smallbiggrin:

PhantomFox
2011-12-17, 02:18 PM
Episode questions:
What did you think of the carol at the end? I kinda liked it, since it's traditional multipart chorale harmony.

And perhaps we didn't see much Celestia today because... they're saving that for later? Hmm? Maybe? ;)

grimbold
2011-12-17, 02:19 PM
true non heretical theory:

Alicorns are gods, and were always worshiped by ponies though never did they appear physically, except maybe to devout worshippers. And that is why they were represented on the first Equestrian flag.

But during the Discordian Age, the hope and fervent prayers of ponies mixed with the ancient friendship magic, and thus the perfect fusion of all pony races are made manifest, in fact, they are friendship magic incarnate. There should be no doubt to their divinity or their divine right to rule.

There, I said it, can I be let go now?

edit: frankly this makes the origin of Celestia and Luna that much closer to How the Emperor of Mankind were created. 40k Pony Canon?


this seems like a fairly good idea if i understood everything right

Bayonet Priest
2011-12-17, 02:26 PM
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Leaving aside any questions raised about the nature of the Sisters and what not I really liked this episode. Just as an episode it was a lot of fun, it was very funny without getting quite a zany as Lesson Zero. I liked the military dictatorship pegasi, I liked the callback to Starswirl the Bearded. Pinkie played someone named Chancellor Puddinghead who... wore pudding on her head. That sounds about right to me. Fluttershy was adorable and I loved sarcastic straightman Applejack.

It was a lot of fun.

Lord Raziere
2011-12-17, 02:33 PM
On Season 2, Episode 11
Hm. Windigos must only do this during the winter. otherwise all the the other episodes where ponies conflict would've caused blizzards as well.

either that or the threat of the Windigos is much less right now since Celestia and Luna came.

I am now beginning to think a human being would not survive in Equestria, mostly because I would start hating Windigos and they would feed off my hate for them and freeze me. humans are too negative. the ponies only thrive in their world because of their unique adaptation towards optimism and friendship.

good episode though, can't wait to see more history, I like history.

Kurgan
2011-12-17, 02:45 PM
Episode thoughts

In regards to nitpicking, as mentioned, the flag shown is the current flag of Equestria. It's used since the audience is more familiar with it. I guess it's similar to some plays using more modern versions of the American Flag when the design may not be accurate for the era.

As for the raising of the sun and moon, I believe they said unicorns, plural. It probably took a whole group of their strongest mages to do it, and Celestia and Luna are powerful enough to do it by themselves.

Overall, I enjoyed this episode for what it was, worldbuilding. The mane cast played the parts very nicely. Not as filling as an episode of character development, but still tasty. Just a different flavor.



Um....just curious, you had all that in a quote and not a spoiler. Is this from the episode itself, something you took from elsewhere, clicking the wrong tags? Anywho, just bringing this to your attention since while I'm generally fine with spoilers, I know others aren't.


Well that explains the phrasing then. Read. The. Books.



No!

Eh, I'm not much a reader, but if I would I'd definitely read the series. It's actually more fun this way too. I can't imagine trying to keep information you might know about the characters to yourself, though I'm really good at playing my characters even if I know info out-of-game that I shouldn't. Our player who has read the books, he is not so good at it.

Yeah, Wheel of Time was fun back in the day, but I don't know. When I was 13, they were the awesomest thing since awesome came to awesome town. When book....eleven I think (last one before Jordon died)? Anyways, by the time eleven came out, I just had trouble getting into them again.

I'd say my favorite part of WoT is the world building, not the actual story or characters themselves.

Also yeah, playing in a set setting like WoT, you need to basically say "ok, screw canon and lets just have fun!" By trying to hook the game into the books too much, you are just asking for pain and tedium.

Eakin
2011-12-17, 02:50 PM
S2 E11

It was... nice.

Seriously, I was hoping for a bit more than what we got. I kinda feel like it had a double dose of cheese this week in place of it's usual all-ages charm.

Pinkie stole the show, obviously, glad to see her get a bit more screen time.

Regarding the flag, I assumed it was a modern Equestria flag since otherwise the sisters being on it but absent from the story makes no sense.

Also, I find it slightly creepy that the world enforces friendship via Eldritch Abomination-esque blizzard monsters

Zevox
2011-12-17, 03:02 PM
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Well, this one was okay. It's always nice to learn a little about the history of a fantasy setting, but other than that there weren't really any highlights for me. The resolution did seem excessively cheesy and a bit forced, but I guess they didn't want to make this a two-parter. Oh well. Not one of the great ones, but I will take it over the Crusaders and Rarity-centric episodes we've had this season at least, and maybe also Mare-do-Well.
Zevox

Lord Raziere
2011-12-17, 03:03 PM
In Response to Eakin
Yea, between Discord, Windigos and the insanity of the ponies underneath that potentially lead to things like Nightmare Moon, its starting to seem less like "friendship is a voluntary virtue" and more like "friendship is a survival mechanism" which is somewhat more pragmatic and realistic thing that can be taken away from the show.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 03:05 PM
So something unrelated: Equestrian wedding rituals.... thoughts? How do ponies celebrate weddings? Who performs it? Stuff like that.

Gamerlord
2011-12-17, 03:10 PM
So something unrelated: Equestrian wedding rituals.... thoughts? How do ponies celebrate weddings? Who performs it? Stuff like that.
This made me think, what do Earth Ponies and Pegasi wear instead of rings? They have no horns.

Sean Mirrsen
2011-12-17, 03:12 PM
S2 E11:
Well, the Christmas thematics aren't particularly enjoyable to me (Russians don't celebrate Christmas in quite this way), but on the overall I guess it's a passable episode. Pretty funny in a lot of places, especially where Pinkie was present. I half-expected it all to turn into a disaster-ish spectacle a-la Ember Island Players, but oh well.

As for the three windigos and the conspicuous absence of the Princesses... epileptic tree time! The Windigos are actually the original Alicorns, transformed by exposure to the Great Fire of Friendship. Two became the princesses of the Sun and the Moon, but one mysteriously vanished, eventually reappearing in his new, twisted form - as Discord.

So, the roar heard when the M6 are arguing again at the end - those are Celestia and Luna, under the influence of their original Windigo forms. The whole thing with setting up the play for Hearth's Warming Eve is actually a ploy to concentrate Harmony and Friendship in Canterlot, to create the Great Fire again and prevent the Windigos from regaining control.

Lix Lorn
2011-12-17, 03:24 PM
So something unrelated: Equestrian wedding rituals.... thoughts? How do ponies celebrate weddings? Who performs it? Stuff like that.


This made me think, what do Earth Ponies and Pegasi wear instead of rings? They have no horns.
Wow, we've literally had this conbo before xD

Episode demotivators:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2uzup09.jpg
Pretty picture, wittiest caption I could think of.
http://i41.tinypic.com/y042e.jpg
I didn't think so.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2dkc1ad.jpg
Shipping goddess. I was contractually obligated.
http://i44.tinypic.com/105p0k3.jpg
Longest callback ever? :smalltongue:

Deadly
2011-12-17, 03:31 PM
Wow, we've literally had this conbo before xD

Were there any particularly good ideas or theories, then?

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 03:34 PM
Were there any particularly good ideas or theories, then?

if I remeber correctly it was mostly necklaces and horseshoes.

think there were also discusion about rings weaven in braided manes

Lix Lorn
2011-12-17, 03:40 PM
Plus wing ornaments for pegasi, IIRC. And tail rings?

Bayonet Priest
2011-12-17, 03:41 PM
if I remeber correctly it was mostly necklaces and horseshoes.

think there were also discusion about rings weaven in braided manes

I think for pegasi each of them exchanging a feather was brought up too.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 03:43 PM
Hmm... tatoos, maybe. Or a second "cutie mark". Though we don't see that in the show so maybe unlikely.

AlterForm
2011-12-17, 03:51 PM
S2:E11
Yeah, lots of awkward unanswered questions to handle now. Just watch those epileptic trees shake...

I keep wanting to feel kind of awkward about what the play suggests about how early pony society was structured, but then I remember it was a play and some parts were probably exaggerated a bit. Hmmm.



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Inorite? Those names were absolutely absurd. Earth? Why in their right mind would name anything Earth? I am disappoint Smart Cookie, you could have at least settled for Bob.


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http://foxx278.tripod.com/akima01.jpg
I'm never calling it that.

Newman
2011-12-17, 04:22 PM
THIS EPISODE WAS BRILLIANT, THAT IS ALL.

But that final flag... it kinda bugs me... They proibably didn't want to bother with the history of equestrian flags, and basically did the equivalent of having George Washington raise a 50-striped flag.

As for the ham and cheese: it's a play. A "Birth of a Nation"-style, propagandistic, ancient, traditional play. Of course the storytelling techniques are basic to the point of being skeletal. Of course the dialogues sound forced and strange. Of course the nations are represented by one leader and one follower. The story, whatever's left of whatever actually happened, is condensed as much as possible, reduced to its barest elements. And while the characters are lively, they are also fairly flat and one-dimensional: they are pure plot devices, ALL of them. And the entire plot exists to serve An Aesop: don't be a ****. It's kind of a basic Aesop, but one that bears repeating.

Also, it's ironic how it's Rainbow Dash of all people that represents the Enclave.

@Russian Christmas: that reminds me of a play I saw this week about a guy who was in love with a very vain girl who, to torment him, asked him to bring her the Zarina's shoes as a precondition to marrying him. The guy tricks a demon into helping him, and after a very amusing ecounter with the Zarina, comes back to find that everyone thought he had killed himself. There's also a very silly B plot about his mother having nearly half the village as lovers, unbecknownst to each other, and the classical comedy that arises from that.

otakuryoga
2011-12-17, 04:43 PM
This made me think, what do Earth Ponies and Pegasi wear instead of rings? They have no horns.

Unicorns couldn't really wear rings on their horns anyway unless they constantly used their magic to keep them there...if they nodded their heads the ring would slide right off since the horns are tapered fairly sharply

most fics where this comes up the author goes with bands on the foreleg or ear-rings


I think for pegasi each of them exchanging a feather was brought up too.

only place i have seen that is Kindnesss' Reward...though maybe others have used it also

BlasTech
2011-12-17, 04:46 PM
Heh, Ep11:

Nice thing to wake up to. A bit cheesy, and as subtle as a cake to the face, yes, but it's the christmas episode so it gets a pass.

Overall, I liked it better than Mare Do Well, because even though the lesson was applied rather heavily, I didn't feel like there was the same malice in how it came about.

Ok, on rewatch, I like the fact that the Leaders all got frozen first simply by virtue of the fact that they were standing further apart. Not sure if that means points for subtlety or symbolism, but will give it credit for that ^^

Other notes:

Pony heights confirmed, just measure them against that "Eight Foot(?!) Candy Cane Twilight spys at the beginning." Looks like the mane six are about 3 Feet (??!) tall. PERFECT HUGGING SIZE! :smallbiggrin:

Fluttershy in that costume ... HNNNNGGGGHHHHH

AJ, Snarking up to 11 in this episode.

Naming the country Earth made me laugh. Something I caught on the second playthrough is that Pinkie calls the planet Earth too when she says "Newsflash .. the Earth is round there is no up or down"

Nifty carol at the end, but would have loved it to be a few verses longer.

Windigoes ... welp there's another creature of mass destruction to add to the list :smalltongue:

Interaction between the Mane 6 was hillarious, particularly Pinkie's "helping" to get Fluttershy out of the box. (Magic is elastic?).

Casting choices were spot on! :smallbiggrin: The three more disruptive ponies were all put in the leader roles, while the more tempered three had the advisor roles.

They seem awfully calm for a bunch of ponies being frozen solid :smalleek:

Bayonet Priest
2011-12-17, 04:55 PM
only place i have seen that is Kindnesss' Reward...though maybe others have used it also

Hmm, you're right. I remember that now. I think it came up in discussion on here too though.

Anarion
2011-12-17, 05:24 PM
Wow, we've literally had this conbo before xD

Episode demotivators:
http://i40.tinypic.com/2uzup09.jpg
Pretty picture, wittiest caption I could think of.
http://i41.tinypic.com/y042e.jpg
I didn't think so.
http://i40.tinypic.com/2dkc1ad.jpg
Shipping goddess. I was contractually obligated.
http://i44.tinypic.com/105p0k3.jpg
Longest callback ever? :smalltongue:

As a point of order, this (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/02/20/episode-1221-longest-set-up-in-webcomic-history/) was actually the longest callback ever, clocking in around 9 years.

RdMarquis
2011-12-17, 05:28 PM
if I remeber correctly it was mostly necklaces and horseshoes.

think there were also discusion about rings weaven in braided manes

The ritual for earth ponies could involve working together to planting a tree or something.

Ep 11
I basically feel the same way as a couple of you. It was a pretty good episode, but I would have liked it better if it didn't raise more questions than it answered. I did like it, though, and I don't feel that there's anything wrong, personally, with the story of Equestria's founding. Pinkie Pie (well, Puddin' Head) was hilarious, and the whole thing was enjoyable overall.

Lix Lorn
2011-12-17, 05:36 PM
As a point of order, this (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/02/20/episode-1221-longest-set-up-in-webcomic-history/) was actually the longest callback ever, clocking in around 9 years.
(EYEROLL)
I almost said 'except for that one' too.

Gadora
2011-12-17, 05:54 PM
I'm still back on page two of the thread, and I'll be staying there until I watch the episode. Regardless, here, have some logs of the IRC discussion (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-17.log) on the new ep. (EDIT: Through the magic of friendship, combined with Dropbox and Chatzilla, those logs will update automatically. Not instantaneously mind you, but, still, automatically.)


Cool, new thread. Will welcome it with open moogle

http://i.imgur.com/kXiVz.jpg


Anyone here play Wheel of Time or have read the series? I got a Wolfsister named Fiona that I'm playing as close to Flutter shy's personality as I can. Even named my horse Twilight :) Gotta love the insane sense-like skills I got. Had to take several combat feats though to have any real use. Three levels away from taking a feat that lets me talk to any animal, not just wolves.

I actually came close to picking up the game the other day. I don't care for what I've heard about how it models the setting's magic though.

Thanqol
2011-12-17, 05:58 PM
New Episode General:

Meh. Reads like a propaganda drive rather than a myth. I, personally, see no reason why this should contest with anypony's fanon; it's clearly as inaccurate as any other Christmas movie in circulation.

This one is getting judged way harsher than usual, though, because I'm soaked in mythology up to my ears. The episode was all right, nothing more. Bottom of the S2 heap for me, just over Mare Do Well (which I've decided is my least favourite pony episode of all time, which is a real pity given how many cool concepts it invokes).




also an insane heretical theory

Discord unwittingly caused his own down fall by mixing pony genetics during the Discordian Age and inadvertently created the Alicorns. who's vast magical power comes into focus with the magic of friendship to forge the elements of harmony.

I don't buy this because it implies I can't ship cross-species. Unless you're talking about... oh my god. The only way to get an Alicorn is to have a parent of all three pony races. And the only way to do THAT is to use Esperderek's Book.

QED the Book is Discord's evil doing.


Thoughts on the new episode:
Wait a minute, Twilight's character mentioned Star Swirl was her mentor, and Luna implied she knew Star Swirl....despite apparently not existing at that point in time. Then again, maybe Luna is a bookworm like Twi.

AHA! A PLOT HOLE! I KNEW IT! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!


So something unrelated: Equestrian wedding rituals.... thoughts? How do ponies celebrate weddings? Who performs it? Stuff like that.

With pegasus ponies, I've always been a fan of the notion that they give the gift of a feather, which their other half affixes to their own wing. "And may a part of me always be with you".

Also, I'm unable to get the image of anyone other than Derpy performing weddings due to one comic I saw ages back.

legomaster00156
2011-12-17, 06:09 PM
Episode thoughts.
This was a really, really fun episode. I liked the Derpy appearances at the beginning, and it continued to be good well afterwards. I paricularly enjoyed the mention of Starswirl. The story was an interesting one, although since it pretty much rips apart prelaid canon. Are the alicorns needed at all for what their established duties or raising the sun and moon? When did Discord rule? How could they have a flag of Equestria when the alicorns hadn't entered the picture yet?

Pendulous
2011-12-17, 06:13 PM
I actually came close to picking up the game the other day. I don't care for what I've heard about how it models the setting's magic though.

Channelers are horribly overpowered and can basically do anything. There is no penalty for doing certain things, like weaving two weaves in the same round (that's a quickened spell in D&D terms). Plus over-channeling and stuff that makes them cast at a higher level. It's insane. Also, our DM is running it a little differently than the book, because the book came out around the fourth or fifth book, so things are different. Which is fine, but I'm seeing a bias toward certain classes. He's giving our Asha'man pretty much everything in the world, while most of the other players are getting crap. Though I can't say much, there's not much item-wise that benefits me. Except normal combat gear.

HalfTangible
2011-12-17, 06:16 PM
New Episode General:

Meh. Reads like a propaganda drive rather than a myth. I, personally, see no reason why this should contest with anypony's fanon; it's clearly as inaccurate as any other Christmas movie in circulation.

This one is getting judged way harsher than usual, though, because I'm soaked in mythology up to my ears. The episode was all right, nothing more. Bottom of the S2 heap for me, just over Mare Do Well (which I've decided is my least favourite pony episode of all time, which is a real pity given how many cool concepts it invokes).





I don't buy this because it implies I can't ship cross-species. Unless you're talking about... oh my god. The only way to get an Alicorn is to have a parent of all three pony races. And the only way to do THAT is to use Esperderek's Book.

QED the Book is Discord's evil doing.



AHA! A PLOT HOLE! I KNEW IT! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!



With pegasus ponies, I've always been a fan of the notion that they give the gift of a feather, which their other half affixes to their own wing. "And may a part of me always be with you".

Also, I'm unable to get the image of anyone other than Derpy performing weddings due to one comic I saw ages back.
TBF, if Luna was born shortly after the formation of Equestria and Star Swirl was so influential, she definitely would've been taught about him. Heck, every kid in america knows who George Washington is, and he was alive around 200 years ago.

AlterForm
2011-12-17, 06:21 PM
With pegasus ponies, I've always been a fan of the notion that they give the gift of a feather, which their other half affixes to their own wing. "And may a part of me always be with you".

Also, I'm unable to get the image of anyone other than Derpy performing weddings due to one comic I saw ages back.

Warning: Large Image
http://dl.dropbox.com/s/5yvdfal9syl5t8w/ImpressiveClergyDerp.png

Wuv, Twue Wuv ... and Muffinssssss

:smalltongue:

Fun Fact: That was sitting in my "WIP" folder for something like 6+ months. It was so old I was still using black outlines for everything. :smallredface:

Topaz
2011-12-17, 06:22 PM
true non heretical theory:
Alicorns are gods, and were always worshiped by ponies though never did they appear physically, except maybe to devout worshippers. And that is why they were represented on the first Equestrian flag.

But during the Discordian Age, the hope and fervent prayers of ponies mixed with the ancient friendship magic, and thus the perfect fusion of all pony races are made manifest, in fact, they are friendship magic incarnate. There should be no doubt to their divinity or their divine right to rule.

There, I said it, can I be let go now?

edit: frankly this makes the origin of Celestia and Luna that much closer to How the Emperor of Mankind were created. 40k Pony Canon?


I like this theory. Fills the plot holes raised by the episode.

I like that theory too. Makes everything good again :smallbiggrin:

this seems like a fairly good idea if i understood everything right
Me four! Kairaven is best pony historian!
My current pet theory is that it takes hundreds or thousands of unicorns working together to raise and lower the sun and moon, so the ponies see the Princesses as having freed the unicorns from that task which allowed them to come up with all the magitech innovations that have made all ponies' lives better.

This made me think, what do Earth Ponies and Pegasi wear instead of rings? They have no horns.
Have we even seen anything like that on the married couples in the show?

AlterForm
2011-12-17, 06:36 PM
Oh, and a bit of info that I'm probably entirely too interested in, a visual depiction of how the animators put Twilight's hair together:

(Inconceivably minor Hearthswarming Eve spoilers)
http://dl.dropbox.com/s/czmp3750vaynt0o/TwilightHairRef.jpg

:smallbiggrin:

legomaster00156
2011-12-17, 06:38 PM
On pegasi career choices (episode spoilers!)
So, another interesting piece from the show. In last week's episode, it was shown that the Wonderbolts were members of the Equestrian military. In this episode, it is shown that the original pegasi had an established military, and placed their Commander as their ruler. They were violent and brave, but at the same time, they were organized. They weren't afraid to stoop to weather control.
In the current age of Equestria, I theorize that the pegasi are pretty much split into two factions: the "mundane citizens", which include the weather teams and the pegasi who's special talents are unrelated; and the core of the Equestrian military, who also include most of the Royal Guard pegasi.
It makes sense that the original "army clan" would make up most of the modern-day military, but we see several pegasi that are quite clearly simple citizens. However, I think it's a good idea that pegasi would make up the army, not only because of their roots and personalities, but also their abilities. They obviously are capable of flight, and they have also been seen (and heard) to be capable of making their wings razor-sharp when needed.

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 06:41 PM
New Episode General:

Meh. Reads like a propaganda drive rather than a myth. I, personally, see no reason why this should contest with anypony's fanon; it's clearly as inaccurate as any other Christmas movie in circulation.

This one is getting judged way harsher than usual, though, because I'm soaked in mythology up to my ears. The episode was all right, nothing more. Bottom of the S2 heap for me, just over Mare Do Well (which I've decided is my least favourite pony episode of all time, which is a real pity given how many cool concepts it invokes).





I don't buy this because it implies I can't ship cross-species. Unless you're talking about... oh my god. The only way to get an Alicorn is to have a parent of all three pony races. And the only way to do THAT is to use Esperderek's Book.

QED the Book is Discord's evil doing.



AHA! A PLOT HOLE! I KNEW IT! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!



With pegasus ponies, I've always been a fan of the notion that they give the gift of a feather, which their other half affixes to their own wing. "And may a part of me always be with you".

Also, I'm unable to get the image of anyone other than Derpy performing weddings due to one comic I saw ages back.

Merriwether Williams:

I am starting to dislike her. The main reason is that her stories, though well written, is far and apart from what ponies had established.

It may be due to her being new writer. Aside from her rather off-character protrayal of the main 6, the main thing I have a problem with is she has been breaking minor pony conventions left and right. Trains, dams, construction cranes, using foot for measurement when the word "giant" could work just as well. Basically she feels like a "guest writer" that is messing around with the ponyverse. Not badly mind you, but rather carelessly that can cause problems later.


Heretical theory discussion:

Discord can magically subtract/add horns and wings, I didn't so much mean scientifically breeding alicorn but rather some discordian magic may be involved in our pony pricesses' creation.

...citizen, we need to have a "chat" again...

Oh no, I didn't mean what I said, no, not the comfy stable!!!

Pony military:

people alway forget that the fighting force is only part of a standing military organization, I am sure the modern equestrian Military needs unicorn clerks to track pays and acolates and file reports, and earth ponies for logistical supply.

And you can see in the episode that with out food supply from earth ponies, the pegasi troops were starving.

legomaster00156
2011-12-17, 06:56 PM
Pony military:

people alway forget that the fighting force is only part of a standing military organization, I am sure the modern equestrian Military needs unicorn clerks to track pays and acolates and file reports, and earth ponies for logistical supply.

And you can see in the episode that with out food supply from earth ponies, the pegasi troops were starving.

I did say the pegasi were the core of the military, not the entire thing.

Deadly
2011-12-17, 07:09 PM
Merriwether Williams:

I am starting to dislike her. The main reason is that her stories, though well written, is far and apart from what ponies had established.

It may be due to her being new writer. Aside from her rather off-character protrayal of the main 6, the main thing I have a problem with is she has been breaking minor pony conventions left and right. Trains, dams, construction cranes, using foot for measurement when the word "giant" could work just as well. Basically she feels like a "guest writer" that is messing around with the ponyverse. Not badly mind you, but rather carelessly that can cause problems later.


Her two episodes so far have seemed in some ways different, I'll agree. I'm wondering how much of that we can attribute to her, though.

We had trains back in Over a Barrel, and the way I understood it most of the team were all "Yay, trains!" but Faust wanted to keep the tech level lower, so they made a compromise by having it pulled by horses. Maybe the train we see in this episode is simply a result of Faust having left and may have nothing to do with Merriwether Williams but rather the team as a whole being less dedicated to keep the tech level low without Faust. It's also possible that Hasbro said "Hey, we want to make this train as a toy, can you fit it in?" And they did.

I'm thinking an episode is probably a major collaboration, with the final result bearing the marks of most of the team. It's probably difficult to say which parts were due exclusively to the designated writer alone.

I'm hoping her next episode will get a better response.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-17, 07:18 PM
Um, that's The Hub's Facebook page. Seems pretty official to me.
Hub doesn't make the episodes, Hasbro does.


As a point of order, this (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2010/02/20/episode-1221-longest-set-up-in-webcomic-history/) was actually the longest callback ever, clocking in around 9 years.
I... don't get it.


Ignoring the rest of the episode discussions. On to another image dump.

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/5237deb3899d8249325d69e1f17ed8ac/99497%20-%20artist%3AEgophiliac%20comic%20costume%20frolics ome_meadowlark%20guard_pony%20luna%27s_guards%20ni ght_guard%20Starswirl_the_bearded%20sunshine_smile s%20twilight_sparkle.png

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/d92c41393ae0e7956851b32ac5d84888/99344%20-%20animated%20artist%3AGhost%20fluttershy%20gilda% 20pinkie_pie%20rainbow_dash%20Shadowbolt%20Trixie% 20twilight_sparkle%20weird_al%20White_and_Nerdy.gi f

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/8f38d5fa5cb633a922a571bffc6e8bc8/99272%20-%20apple_bloom%20artist%3Akarzahnii%20Clubhouse%20 cmc%20Cutie_Mark_Crusaders%20forest%20scarf%20scen ery%20scootaloo%20Sweetie_Belle%20winter.png

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/9dd045453317d37f10807fa28c5596e0/99590%20-%20artist%3Asaturnspace%20derpy_hooves%20dinky_hoo ves%20Doctor_Whooves%20family%20Sparkler.png

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/9b75f75db14b5283505453823306e24d/99578%20-%20artist%3Ahak2%20milkshake%20parody%20Trixie%20t wilight_sparkle.png

Deadly
2011-12-17, 07:22 PM
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/d92c41393ae0e7956851b32ac5d84888/99344%20-%20animated%20artist%3AGhost%20fluttershy%20gilda% 20pinkie_pie%20rainbow_dash%20Shadowbolt%20Trixie% 20twilight_sparkle%20weird_al%20White_and_Nerdy.gi f

Yay! Weird Al Ponies! http://i.imgur.com/aRDpW.png

Has that song been fully poniefied yet? It must be.

Anarion
2011-12-17, 07:24 PM
I... don't get it.

The 7th strip of 8-bit theater (link (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2001/03/20/episode-007-kamehameha-or-something/)) had a joke that a party of 4 white mages would never work, despite its apparent recommendation by Nintendo Power Magazine. That was published in 2001. The strip I linked before was #1221, wasn't published until 2010, and was the first reference back to that comment (and that magazine) in 1214 strips. In fact, you could say that the entire comic was simply the 9 year setup to a brick joke.

Geno9999
2011-12-17, 07:28 PM
Okay, my two bits to pony history:
Celestia and Luna were always deities, but not physical deities. This explains why they were on the Equestrian banner (other than a potential in-universe of Did Not Do The Research), when they didn't rule Equestria. Celestia and Luna were presented in a pony form for the same reasons why ancient civilizations' gods in the real world are portrayed as having a human form.
My guess is that around when Discord decided to cause all hell to everypony, Celestia and Luna decided to take physical form to create and/or wield the Elements of Harmony to stop him.
However, when they did stop Discord, either A: the sisters were unable to return to whence they came, B: they decided to stay out of their free will and love for the ponies. Either way, the unicorns surrender their role of controlling the sun and moon, and the Sisters take roles as princesses of Equestria.
Until Luna gets jealous and becomes Nightmare Moon.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-17, 07:34 PM
The 7th strip of 8-bit theater (link (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2001/03/20/episode-007-kamehameha-or-something/)) had a joke that a party of 4 white mages would never work, despite its apparent recommendation by Nintendo Power Magazine. That was published in 2001. The strip I linked before was #1221, wasn't published until 2010, and was the first reference back to that comment (and that magazine) in 1214 strips. In fact, you could say that the entire comic was simply the 9 year setup to a brick joke.
Aaaaah, okay, thanks ^^

Okay, I wasn't going to get in on the episode stuff but I saw this and thought I'd throw it out there.
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/75ecf88fe38c91338a9192f9317af88a/99735%20-%20Alicorn%20alicorns%20celestia%20equestria%20fla g%20luna%20meta.PNG

Goodnight Ponythread.

RobD
2011-12-17, 08:00 PM
So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)

Gamerlord
2011-12-17, 08:03 PM
Have we even seen anything like that on the married couples in the show?
If you're talking about the rings on horns, Prince Glueblood offered one to Rarity in her imagination sequence from Ticket Master.

Anarion
2011-12-17, 08:09 PM
Okay, my two bits to pony history:
Celestia and Luna were always deities, but not physical deities. This explains why they were on the Equestrian banner (other than a potential in-universe of Did Not Do The Research), when they didn't rule Equestria. Celestia and Luna were presented in a pony form for the same reasons why ancient civilizations' gods in the real world are portrayed as having a human form.
My guess is that around when Discord decided to cause all hell to everypony, Celestia and Luna decided to take physical form to create and/or wield the Elements of Harmony to stop him.
However, when they did stop Discord, either A: the sisters were unable to return to whence they came, B: they decided to stay out of their free will and love for the ponies. Either way, the unicorns surrender their role of controlling the sun and moon, and the Sisters take roles as princesses of Equestria.
Until Luna gets jealous and becomes Nightmare Moon.

Warhammer 40k response.
You do realize what this means, right? The Alicorn sisters are actually Warhammer 40k C'tan. They existed peacefully until taking mortal form, but then became subject to emotions and turned corrupt. It's only a matter of time until Celestia cracks and turns on us all!


So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)

I love some of the small details. Gems on Rarity's sword, half of Fluttershy appearing next to Twilight who's teleporting her to safety, and the sun symbol on the collapsed statue were all nice touches.

Also, who's the kid behind the dragon's left foot near the edge of the picture?

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-17, 08:29 PM
You can't have ponyhammer 40k without boars!

http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/267/7/8/warboar_grimskull_by_sanity_x-d4ar2sc.jpg

RobD
2011-12-17, 08:42 PM
I love some of the small details. Gems on Rarity's sword, half of Fluttershy appearing next to Twilight who's teleporting her to safety, and the sun symbol on the collapsed statue were all nice touches.

Also, who's the kid behind the dragon's left foot near the edge of the picture?

Ah, that would be a really-too-small-to-be-worth-it inclusion of your friend and mine, Derpy.

...in a Link costume.

Aotrs Commander
2011-12-17, 09:01 PM
So, somewhat belatedly again, got round to watching today's episode. So, as usual, my initial reactions, with back-reading the thread to come shortly...

That...was not what I was expecting at all.

It was interesting - there were a few funny moments; "Chancellor Pudding Head" probably being the single funniest... In fact, Pinkie with Applejack as the straight-mare pretty much stole the show, there, despite some stiff competition from Rarity and Twilight. (And the shot of Rarity riding Twilight is so going to be taken out of context...)

It raised a lot of questions, though, like why did this train not need to be pulled by ponies? Or perhaps a better question is, why was the one to Appleloosa pulled if steam power is available? What, is coal at a premium so they ran out or something? Possible, as Equestria's large number of gemstone resources may come at the cost of other natural mineral resources, and they may have to manufacture coal (or charcoal perhaps, but the latter is probably magically doable for ponies).

"Before the rule of Princess Celestia" and unicorns raising the sun and moon asks so many questions... Further enhanced by the flag with the Princesses on it. I suppose that could just be the modern flag. Or perhaps the Princesses existed (as or venerated as goddesses), but didn't rule directly (perhaps their predessors?) That opens up so many questions about the mythology, and to be honest, it strikes me as a bit haphazardly done in terms of writing, as if Celestia was sort of shoved aside so they could tell this particular aesop about friendship, and I'm not sure I like that.

Still, it could be that Celestia's predecessor simply were not as benevolent as she was in later years (or perhaps she wasn't herself until later, who knows).

(If Discord was in charge of the world, for example, he probably couldn't be everywhere at once, and until Equestria was big enough for him to notice, he may have been the other side of the world, tormenting dragons or gryphons or something.)



Spike is also nearly as big an attention-hog as Rarity and people say they have nothing in common...!

This episode is going to cause so much debate...


Right, back to catch up on the rest of the comments...

HalfTangible
2011-12-17, 09:12 PM
You can't have ponyhammer 40k without da boarz!

[IMG]http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/267/7/8/warboar_grimskull_by_sanity_x-d4ar2sc.jpg[IMG]ftfy :smalltongue:

GADDA DA BOARZ!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-17, 09:22 PM
ftfy :smalltongue:

GADDA DA BOARZ!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!

Hehehe, I'm glad you liked it! Sanity-x is a treasure trove of ponyhammer 40k pictures. I'm waiting hopefully for when the Jackrons are done!

Episode spoilers!
I haven't seen it yet, but I heard about some cool new dudes named the Windigos! Do they play a big role in the episode?

HalfTangible
2011-12-17, 09:25 PM
Hehehe, I'm glad you liked it! Sanity-x is a treasure trove of ponyhammer 40k pictures. I'm waiting hopefully for when the Jackrons are done!

Episode spoilers!
I haven't seen it yet, but I heard about some cool new dudes named the Windigos! Do they play a big role in the episode?

*points to sig* Join the Herd.... LIKE A FAUST!!

Aotrs Commander
2011-12-17, 09:35 PM
New episode:
Now having caught up with the thread...

Spikes says before Celestia's RULE. This could mean before she was born, before she was corporeal, or merely she was directly in charge. She could have been alive and corporeal (and a goddess) at the time, just in a different part of the world. (Equestria may not be massive, after all). Indeed, nothing says that the three tribes were the only tribes of ponies in the world - Celestia could have been in charge of some other pre-Equestrian civilisation elsewhere at the time Equestria was formed, and gravitated there later (perhaps elected as Princess after freeing them from Discord's rule?)

(She's still a goddess, as far as I'm concerned, and no-pony is going to convince me otherwise until they specificallt state in the show, which they won't!)

A point no-one has brought up so far is that in Everfree Forest, the sun and moon raise by themselves, do they not? Perhaps the sun and moon are more local effects? I'm not sure I'm any more comfortable with that idea, either, though...



I didn't say what I thought overall, did I? I think this was probably the weakest episode of this season, mostly because it was fairly careless with it's own established history (it raises more questions than it answered, and my impression was that they didn't think about it very hard, and that is a cardinal sin in my eyes. And no "it's ultimately a show for kids" is NOT a defense; I don't care if you're writing for two-year olds, there is NO EXCUSE for not thnking about what you're writing and checking; for frag's sake, if you can't even be arsed to check google or wiki in this day and age to make sure you are consistent with yourself, you shouldn't be fragging doing the job, you lazy incompetant!

Raaagh!

Ahem.)


Heh, Ep11:

Pony heights confirmed, just measure them against that "Eight Foot(?!) Candy Cane Twilight spys at the beginning." Looks like the mane six are about 3 Feet (??!) tall. PERFECT HUGGING SIZE! :smallbiggrin:


Which confirms Bobcat's estimates (which I concurred with) from a while back. Official confirmation is all helpful. Also, ponies use imperial measurements, which begs the question - where the hay did they get the term "feet" from? Presumably, a non-equine empire must have invented the measurement?

Right, I had better go meditate to regain my mana, since I was dead late watching the show today, and I'm trying to to get my meditation time back to some pre-2 o'clock in the morning...

Pokonic
2011-12-17, 09:42 PM
Which confirms Bobcat's estimates (which I concurred with) from a while back. Official confirmation is all helpful. Also, ponies use imperial measurements, which begs the question - where the hay did they get the term "feet" from? Presumably, a non-equine empire must have invented the measurement?

The Dogs had a empire too, yah know.:smalltongue:

Kairaven
2011-12-17, 09:46 PM
The Dogs had a empire too, yah know.:smalltongue:

Paws :smalltongue:

Pokonic
2011-12-17, 10:05 PM
Paws :smalltongue:

They have thumbs. Thats good enough for me. :smalltongue:

Huh, three spoilers this time. Am I overdoing it?:smalltongue:

On the episode
The pegusi military dictatorship was interesting. On as for why some pegusi are not realy into it as others, I would chalk it up in the same way most people with varying european blood in the U.S realy do not attempt to make do on there heritage: they simply do not have a reason to.

Ponies like Fluttershy are not realy sutiable for the life of a Cloudsdalien, with some having talents with no real uses in the skies, and others may simply be the decendents of those who decided to leave the cloud cities and give land a shot. Others, like Rainbow dash, simply left the cities for a job. Seeing that her house is clearly made in the greek style of her home, it seems that she is still attached to the city in some way. Fluttershy, on the the other hand, has almost none of the competive side seen in every other young pegusi seen so far.

On the new monster:

Anybody notice the nice, long shot of the moon right before the Wintergasts are first seen?:smalleek: Seems to me that these guyes have some sort of connection with luna.



On the need of freindship.
The universe inforces it!:smalleek:

Angry with sister because of a lack of appeciation? Gets corrupted, wars for a few years, and gets sent to the moon.

Argue near random statue? Awaken elder god-thing.

Argue inside woods? Alert of hungery creatures, all of which can eat/roast/petriafy/ DATA EXPUNGED/ect you into oblivion.

Bicker amongst one another? Makes the local kill-sat useless.

Argue during winter? Malevolent winter spirits freeze everything to death.


Yeash, at this rate, I think I would take my chances on a vacation to Friendship Vally. :smallamused:

Lord Raziere
2011-12-17, 10:20 PM
On the need of freindship.
The universe inforces it!:smalleek:

Angry with sister because of a lack of appeciation? Gets corrupted, wars for a few years, and gets sent to the moon.

Argue near random statue? Awaken elder god-thing.

Argue inside woods? Alert of hungery creatures, all of which can eat/roast/petriafy/ DATA EXPUNGED/ect you into oblivion.

Bicker amongst one another? Makes the local kill-sat useless.

Argue during winter? Malevolent winter spirits freeze everything to death.


Yeash, at this rate, I think I would take my chances on a vacation to Friendship Vally. :smallamused:

This is why I'm starting to think Friendship as less of a virtue in this show and more of an evolutionary adaptation that the ponies possess that makes them the dominant species of their world. Every time it goes away bad things happen and when it comes back, it somehow solves the problem.
Again, Friendship seems more and more like a survival mechanism in this world than a virtue unto itself. the more its shown to solve things, the more I think that the ponies don't possess friendship because its a virtuous trait of society, but because its a necessary and vital mechanism for surviving and living in their world of monsters and such that feed off and take advantage of chaos, discord and conflict.

Topaz
2011-12-17, 10:22 PM
So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)
Woah. That's epic! It's going to take me a while to appreciate all the details.


If you're talking about the rings on horns, Prince Glueblood offered one to Rarity in her imagination sequence from Ticket Master.
But none of the married couples in the show are shown with any obvious equivalents, are they? The Cakes, Twilight or Pinkie or Rarity's parents?


It raised a lot of questions, though, like why did this train not need to be pulled by ponies? Or perhaps a better question is, why was the one to Appleloosa pulled if steam power is available? What, is coal at a premium so they ran out or something? Possible, as Equestria's large number of gemstone resources may come at the cost of other natural mineral resources, and they may have to manufacture coal (or charcoal perhaps, but the latter is probably magically doable for ponies).
My theory is that the Appleoosan train used a more primitive engine that could not do the job by itself, while the new train (only introduced in Season 2 proper) uses a state of the art engine.

New episode:
A point no-one has brought up so far is that in Everfree Forest, the sun and moon raise by themselves, do they not? Perhaps the sun and moon are more local effects? I'm not sure I'm any more comfortable with that idea, either, though...
When Nightmare Moon brought eternal night, it explicitly included the Everfree Forest, so unlike the weather and such the Everfree doesn't appear to have an independent sun-moon cycle.

Pokonic
2011-12-17, 10:28 PM
This is why I'm starting to think Friendship as less of a virtue in this show and more of an evolutionary adaptation that the ponies possess that makes them the dominant species of their world. Every time it goes away bad things happen and when it comes back, it somehow solves the problem.
Again, Friendship seems more and more like a survival mechanism in this world than a virtue unto itself. the more its shown to solve things, the more I think that the ponies don't possess friendship because its a virtuous trait of society, but because its a necessary and vital mechanism for surviving and living in their world of monsters and such that feed off and take advantage of chaos, discord and conflict.

Yeah, this world seems less and less like a paradice and more like a place in which friendship is manditory. To be fair, this is little differnent than saying in DnD you have to be of good alingment or you will end up as some outsiders snack.


but none of the married couples in the show are shown with any obvious equivalents, are they? The Cakes, Twilight or Pinkie or Rarity's parents?

Nope. The nearist thing we have to ring jewerly on non-unicorns are Zecoras bands.

otakuryoga
2011-12-17, 10:30 PM
so just watched the hd rip on youtube

noticed that rarity put her crown on upside down when she attempted to leave the 3-way summit


and wow..no one else wondering about the derpy ancestor? :smallwink:

Pokonic
2011-12-17, 10:32 PM
so just watched the hd rip on youtube

noticed that rarity put her crown on upside down when she attempted to leave the 3-way summit


and wow..no one else wondering about the derpy ancestor? :smallwink:

The Clan of the Derpy Eye has had its hooves in Equestrian security since the begining. :smallbiggrin:

HalfTangible
2011-12-17, 10:49 PM
New episode:
Now having caught up with the thread...

Spikes says before Celestia's RULE. This could mean before she was born, before she was corporeal, or merely she was directly in charge. She could have been alive and corporeal (and a goddess) at the time, just in a different part of the world. (Equestria may not be massive, after all). Indeed, nothing says that the three tribes were the only tribes of ponies in the world - Celestia could have been in charge of some other pre-Equestrian civilisation elsewhere at the time Equestria was formed, and gravitated there later (perhaps elected as Princess after freeing them from Discord's rule?)

(She's still a goddess, as far as I'm concerned, and no-pony is going to convince me otherwise until they specificallt state in the show, which they won't!)

A point no-one has brought up so far is that in Everfree Forest, the sun and moon raise by themselves, do they not? Perhaps the sun and moon are more local effects? I'm not sure I'm any more comfortable with that idea, either, though...



I didn't say what I thought overall, did I? I think this was probably the weakest episode of this season, mostly because it was fairly careless with it's own established history (it raises more questions than it answered, and my impression was that they didn't think about it very hard, and that is a cardinal sin in my eyes. And no "it's ultimately a show for kids" is NOT a defense; I don't care if you're writing for two-year olds, there is NO EXCUSE for not thnking about what you're writing and checking; for frag's sake, if you can't even be arsed to check google or wiki in this day and age to make sure you are consistent with yourself, you shouldn't be fragging doing the job, you lazy incompetant!

Raaagh!

Ahem.)



Which confirms Bobcat's estimates (which I concurred with) from a while back. Official confirmation is all helpful. Also, ponies use imperial measurements, which begs the question - where the hay did they get the term "feet" from? Presumably, a non-equine empire must have invented the measurement?

Right, I had better go meditate to regain my mana, since I was dead late watching the show today, and I'm trying to to get my meditation time back to some pre-2 o'clock in the morning...
No. In the everfree forest, animals take care of themselves, plants grow alone, and clouds move on their own. The moon stayed up in Everfree in episodes one and two, despite the fact that the sun should've been up.

Anarion
2011-12-17, 11:17 PM
Yeah, this world seems less and less like a paradice and more like a place in which friendship is manditory. To be fair, this is little differnent than saying in DnD you have to be of good alingment or you will end up as some outsiders snack.

Is the fact that friendship is an evolutionary adaptation rather than an optional choice a bad thing? I mean, I guess it takes away from free will a little bit, but it still seems like a society that runs on friendship is a paradise most of the time. Everything runs well, ponies all get along with each other and work well together, the lifestyle of the average pony is relaxing and provides time to pursue personal interests, and a team of six elites can effectively hold off all threats to the peace.

Tiki Snakes
2011-12-17, 11:31 PM
Ha, Borz. Good stuff. Unnecessary A removed for proppa Borzyness.

Episode Spoilz
Note, at the risk of interpreting a 1000+ year old amateur play for historical detail, there seemed a possible suggestion that not all the pony's followed their leaders to what would become Equestria. I see some people assuming that there's nothing left there, but who's to say there isn't still pony society there?

Perhaps, unlike the Equestrian faction, those who stayed didn't learn the lessons of friendship in quite the same way or quite soon enough and there remain three or more less utopian and politically seperate pony societies.
Also, Equestria seems to be landlocked. So perhaps the fourth pony tribe, when leaving the old country, was the only one not to end up in Equestria?

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/280/8/d/good_morning_sea_pony_lyra_by_johnjoseco-d4c39ml.png

Otherwise, though I'm sure it isn't the case, I kind of like the idea of Celestia and Luna having a kind of Fable style backstory. Marked as special by their nature, sure, but having fought their way up from the streets of the Old Country from absolutely nothing, eventually saving Equestria from Discord and becoming Princesses. If we're modelling it on Fable, though, they'd have bought all the houses and kicked a lot of chickens by that point, though.

Also, I'm sure it's already been posted, but I bumbled across this, while searching for the above image and it is both awesome and relevant to the bubbling 40k Poni topic of the last few pages.
http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/294/5/3/god_empress_celestia_by_johnjoseco-d4dgxjv.png

Thanqol
2011-12-17, 11:43 PM
So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)

Damn, son, that's rock. Have you posted around here before? I do not recall meeting you before.

Lord Raziere
2011-12-17, 11:58 PM
Is the fact that friendship is an evolutionary adaptation rather than an optional choice a bad thing? I mean, I guess it takes away from free will a little bit, but it still seems like a society that runs on friendship is a paradise most of the time. Everything runs well, ponies all get along with each other and work well together, the lifestyle of the average pony is relaxing and provides time to pursue personal interests, and a team of six elites can effectively hold off all threats to the peace.

the "takes away the free will" part is the worst part. if one cannot choose their paradise, is it a paradise at all? and even if it is a paradise, is it a paradise worth having?

not to my mind.

legomaster00156
2011-12-18, 12:00 AM
the "takes away the free will" part is the worst part. if one cannot choose their paradise, is it a paradise at all? and even if it is a paradise, is it a paradise worth having?

not to my mind.

Friend_Celestia would like to remind you that free will is ILLEGAL. Friendship is mandatory. Please proceed to the nearest termination booth. Have a nice Daycycle!

HalfTangible
2011-12-18, 12:04 AM
the "takes away the free will" part is the worst part. if one cannot choose their paradise, is it a paradise at all? and even if it is a paradise, is it a paradise worth having?

not to my mind.

Technically each and every pony in Equestria still has a choice whether to be friends or not. Otherwise characters like Trixie and Gilda would not exist. I see it more of a cultural influence than a direct magical or evolutionary affect.

And frankly saying an evolution to be friendly takes away free will is like saying an evolution that takes away gills removes free will.

Pokonic
2011-12-18, 12:05 AM
Ha, Borz. Good stuff. Unnecessary A removed for proppa Borzyness.

Episode Spoilz

[SPOILER]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/280/8/d/good_morning_sea_pony_lyra_by_johnjoseco-d4c39ml.png


To be fair, its either them or Flutterponies.:smalltongue:

Anarion@
Its not so much that as the world inforcing that train of thought and nothing else. There is no "in between", or else things like the mere existance of things like Windygoes would mearly be moderate threats, not civilisation breaking. The fact that at every powerful inteligent being so far was powered on disharmany/arguing/dissension and the like shows that any relationship between others besides friendship or mutral coroperation usualy powers some cosmic spirit or another and might end the world. Or at least makes in inhabitable or very cold.

BlasTech
2011-12-18, 12:16 AM
I love some of the small details. Gems on Rarity's sword, half of Fluttershy appearing next to Twilight who's teleporting her to safety, and the sun symbol on the collapsed statue were all nice touches.

Also, who's the kid behind the dragon's left foot near the edge of the picture?

Been answered already, I just want to say that I noticed Derpy too, nice sneaky cameo there! :smallbiggrin:

Also, the turnaround time on the fanart from E11 is FAST:


Regarding the Friendship/Free Will debate ... just because Friendship worked, doesn't mean it's the only thing that would have worked!

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/351/f/d/winter_spiritbusters_by_niban_destikim-d4jevfc.jpg

Pokonic
2011-12-18, 12:17 AM
Been answered already, I just want to say that I noticed Derpy too, nice sneaky cameo there! :smallbiggrin:

Also, the turnaround time on the fanart from E11 is FAST:

Regarding the Friendship/Free Will debate ... just because Friendship worked, doesn't mean it's the only thing that would have worked!

hhttp://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/351/f/d/winter_spiritbusters_by_niban_destikim-d4jevfc.jpg

Linky be broken.:smallredface:

BlasTech
2011-12-18, 12:18 AM
Linky be broken.:smallredface:

Noticed and edited ... Seems the noticing of broken links is just as fast as the Fanart turnaround! :smallbiggrin:

Tiki Snakes
2011-12-18, 12:22 AM
Episode stuff
I think, somewhat inevitably, the whole evolutionary mandate for friendship is a little over-analysed. :smallwink:

Which is to say, it's not like a tendancy to co-operate isn't already powerfully selected for by evolution anyway.

More specifically, to be fair to the two main examples in question, I'm not sure if they support the hypothesis as such. Firstly, Discord didn't really seem to be powered by Disharmony and Crankypantsness, nor harmed by friendship and warmth. He was simply a powerful reality warper, agent of chaos and was defeated by the combined power of a half a dozen supremely powerful magical macguffins. The fact they might in any sense derive their power from warm fuzzy feelings is at least mostly irrelevant.

Likewise, the Windigos, as presented to us in the play, are defeated by some kind of previously unknown unicorn magic which is possibly triggered by warm fuzzy feelings. But they had only just discovered the Windigos were at fault, despite them having at some point in the past encountered them enough for Starswirl the Bearded to have documented what they were and what they could do.
It's quite possible that you can beat a Windigo with other spells or with some good old fashioned ultra-violence. The leutenants didn't have the option or time to, but the important part of the play was that due to the nature of the crisis, the calmer heads had a chance to talk with each other and make some real diplomatic progress, thus ending the pointless infighting and founding a new, better way. Commemorated of course in song and plays and traditions that evoke that same situation that made it possible.

Actually, given that they knew the Windigos so easily once revealed, I can't help but feel that in Starswirl's day, they encountered and soundly thrashed the Windigos in an entirely different and less Harmonious way, given that it was pre-Equestrian history and that the big blizzard was a one-time plot by the Windigos to get revenge by doing their thing on an epic scale by far above and beyond their normal capability. After all, it'd make sense if they usually were solitary creatures if nothing else, I can't imagine beings that literally feed on hatred and infighting are the most easy of neighbors to get along with.

Anarion
2011-12-18, 12:22 AM
the "takes away the free will" part is the worst part. if one cannot choose their paradise, is it a paradise at all? and even if it is a paradise, is it a paradise worth having?

not to my mind.

I agree with the sentiment in that I want for myself and everyone else to be able to choose their path in life. However, I don't have a choice about whether I eat or not, whether I keep warm or not, whether I find a place to live or not. My alternative is starving/freezing to death. Ponies do have a choice about what they want to do (unless you also believe that cutie marks are predestined at birth). But apparently friendship for them is part of an evolutionary adaption.


Friend_Celestia would like to remind you that free will is ILLEGAL. Friendship is mandatory. Please proceed to the nearest termination booth. Have a nice Daycycle!

NOT HELPING >_<


Technically each and every pony in Equestria still has a choice whether to be friends or not. Otherwise characters like Trixie and Gilda would not exist. I see it more of a cultural influence than a direct magical or evolutionary affect.

And frankly saying an evolution to be friendly takes away free will is like saying an evolution that takes away gills removes free will.

Well said. It might not be quite the same as losing gills, in that they can survive without friendship, but it certainly is a major difference in quality of life.


To be fair, its either them or Flutterponies.:smalltongue:

Anarion@
Its not so much that as the world inforcing that train of thought and nothing else. There is no "in between", or else things like the mere existance of things like Windygoes would mearly be moderate threats, not civilisation breaking. The fact that at every powerful inteligent being so far was powered on disharmany/arguing/dissension and the like shows that any relationship between others besides friendship or mutral coroperation usualy powers some cosmic spirit or another and might end the world. Or at least makes in inhabitable or very cold.

You're right. I guess I don't have a problem with the monsters because I simply accept that as a part of the MLP world. Mostly I like the fact that there are dangerous monsters that present real, deadly threats because it makes the conflicts in the show feel more meaningful. Fluttershy doesn't just have a forceful personality, she actually saved Twilight from being turned to stone! etc.

I guess, what I find kind of weird, is that I've never heard people complain that they need magic to fight monsters in D&D or that futuristic GENERIC NON-40K space marines have laser guns to fight aliens. Ponies need friendship and it works pretty well for them.

Edited because that was a general point: I wasn't talking about 40k.

HalfTangible
2011-12-18, 12:29 AM
I agree with the sentiment in that I want for myself and everyone else to be able to choose their path in life. However, I don't have a choice about whether I eat or not, whether I keep warm or not, whether I find a place to live or not. My alternative is starving/freezing to death. Ponies do have a choice about what they want to do (unless you also believe that cutie marks are predestined at birth). But apparently friendship for them is part of an evolutionary adaption.



NOT HELPING >_<



Well said. It might not be quite the same as losing gills, in that they can survive without friendship, but it certainly is a major difference in quality of life.



You're right. I guess I don't have a problem with the monsters because I simply accept that as a part of the MLP world. Mostly I like the fact that there are dangerous monsters that present real, deadly threats because it makes the conflicts in the show feel more meaningful. Fluttershy doesn't just have a forceful personality, she actually saved Twilight from being turned to stone! etc.

I guess, what I find kind of weird, is that I've never heard people complain that they need magic to fight monsters in D&D or that futuristic space marines have laser guns to fight aliens. Ponies need friendship and it works pretty well for them.

Space Marines... with laser guns? :smallannoyed:

GUARDSMEN get laser guns. SPACE MARINES get rocket launching semi-auto machine guns

Capt. Ido Nos
2011-12-18, 01:13 AM
Ep thoughts as I watch it! Gonna do it for real this time:
-hey it's the intro train! hey it's derpy!
-dat hat rarity. i wonder how much ref that's worAUGH PINKIE PIE
-back in canterlot! looks nice in winter
-never a big fan of eye spy, but i guesPINKIE PIE
-oh neat a play, are the animators just making crowd jiggle back and forth?
-derpy says hi! <3 awww, poor derpy <3
-neat costumes all around
-did fluttershy actually whinney right there?
-a time before celestia and the discovery of ponyville etc? wow, huh, who lived there before?
-wow, earth ponies got it rough
-wow the pegasi are jerks
-wow the unicorns did the sun/moon?
-huh, tribes.
-oh hey ther lyra
-lol, immediate fight
-way to stick to your guns pinkie
-oh hey, nobody like the unicorn magic
-good job with that crown rarity
-i wonder if this is in the script...
-whoa, cloud things!
-aw, flootershy
-derpy eyes!
-wait, "sir"?
-snow hat! (dat plot)
-ootini, twi
-poor AJ, having to deal with the Chancelor. longsuffering indeed
-wait a new land? this wasn't equestria? where are the old lands/who lives there now?
-yeah you fight those clouds RD
-hey guys, weren't you forgetting the rest of your tribes?
-oh snap them's fighting words rarity
-wait what, pinkie?
-heaven forbid
-pinkie stop breaking my brain!
-Pegasopolis?
-Aokay, Rainbow dash has a point, she was there first...
-oh hey, chaos brings the snow
-guys stop ruining nature
-augh the sky horse ghost things!
-spike revels his porcine tendencies, and his fake british accent
-Rainbow Dash clearly knows the true values of value of dibs
-pinkie knows the value of espianoge
-and, suddenly snow again
-well, that's pretty horrifying, them not noticing that they're freezing solid
-and all the blue oni are left
-windigos
-Starswirl! :D
-you know, huh, i at first thought this was a little over the top so far especially with the given moral, but then i realized this was a straight up play, of COURSE it's over the top
-heart is once again the greatest power!
-friendship is magic! friendship on three!
-oh hey, let's have fun instead of actually saving our leaders no big deal
-wait how did they have the alicorns on the flag when they didn't know about alicorns?
-song!
-is this the equestrian national anthem? this sounds like an anthem
-derpy! <3
-oh ohhhh, i see the open window wind metaphor. icy what you did there


edit: also (spoilers)
http://i.imgur.com/Hkfaf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yX9mu.png

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-18, 01:40 AM
Episode spoilers:
Well that was a cool episode I wonder what everyone is going to say and oh welp Iron Hoof theories again.

:/

She wasn't even there, guys. She wasn't even there.

Windigos are cool!

PhantomFox
2011-12-18, 01:40 AM
So.... regarding various writers...
Charlotte vs. Polsky. Who'd you pick?

Callos_DeTerran
2011-12-18, 01:47 AM
New Episode stuff.

To me, this episode was the final nail in the coffin for the 'the princesses are divinity' theory. It's pretty obvious that the three tribes didn't need Celestia and Luna to raise and lower the sun and moon which puts it beyond the providence of divinity. If anything, I could admit that it might be a lost skill that no one knows besides Celestia and Luna, but I think even that's a stretch.

My theory on the princesses now? Unicorns can raise and lower the sun and moon just fine, albeit with enough effort, but two ponies are always born in who are exceptionally good at it, earning their Cutie Marks for the act, and known for having wings.

Keep in mind that alicorns and them being a seperate race is pretty much mostly fanon, in the show and from the development team Celestia and Luna are just noted as winged unicorns. An 'alicorn' may just be...well..the result of the Super Power Lottery. You get wings, an excetionally long life-span, and enhanced magical powers, but you aren't [i]unique in it.

It just makes more sense in my mind then the two princesses being gods of any kind.

As for questions it raises...
How long did Equistria exist before Discord took it over?
How long did Discord reign before Celestia and Luna imprisoned him, cause I got the impression from Celestia that he ruled for a LONG time?
Did Celestia and Luna become princesses on the basis of the fact that they united the three tribes and defeated Discord?

The flag doesn't bother me at all though, as someone else pointed out, the CMC were in the crowd which would suggest a lot of fillies and foals might possibly be in attendance. Using the antique Equistrian flag would have just confused them, so they used the modern one instead to save time and effort explaining how a flag can change over...a really really long time.

On the whole, the episode felt like one of the weakest ones of the season. Don't get me wrong, I love world-building, but I prefer to have it woven into a story rather then it just being laid out there instead of a plot. Compared to other awesome episodes this season that managed world-building (albeit not of this quantity) AND a good story, I feel like this episode dropped the ball in not trying to do the same.

TheAmishPirate
2011-12-18, 02:12 AM
Losing sleep for ponies? Status quo is maintained!

I'd write my own, potentially witty thoughts about this episode, but I believe PhantomFox summed it up rather nicely:


Episode thoughts
Overall, I enjoyed this episode for what it was, worldbuilding. The mane cast played the parts very nicely. Not as filling as an episode of character development, but still tasty. Just a different flavor.

Also, I support the following spoiler-iffic theory.


true non heretical theory:

Alicorns are gods, and were always worshiped by ponies though never did they appear physically, except maybe to devout worshippers. And that is why they were represented on the first Equestrian flag.

But during the Discordian Age, the hope and fervent prayers of ponies mixed with the ancient friendship magic, and thus the perfect fusion of all pony races are made manifest, in fact, they are friendship magic incarnate. There should be no doubt to their divinity or their divine right to rule.

There, I said it, can I be let go now?

edit: frankly this makes the origin of Celestia and Luna that much closer to How the Emperor of Mankind were created. 40k Pony Canon?

Kindablue
2011-12-18, 02:47 AM
Ep thoughts as I watch it! Gonna do it for real this time:

-wait, "sir"?


New episode:
Yeah, I caught that too. I thought that maybe Equestrian theater is the opposite of Elizabethan theater in regards to the expected gender of its players, so actresses regularly cross-dress to play male parts.


edit: also (spoilers)
http://i.imgur.com/Hkfaf.jpg
That was my favorite part of the episode. I really want those two to have more scenes together now.

SiuiS
2011-12-18, 06:11 AM
On pegasi career choices (episode spoilers!)
So, another interesting piece from the show. In last week's episode, it was shown that the Wonderbolts were members of the Equestrian military. In this episode, it is shown that the original pegasi had an established military, and placed their Commander as their ruler. They were violent and brave, but at the same time, they were organized. They weren't afraid to stoop to weather control.
In the current age of Equestria, I theorize that the pegasi are pretty much split into two factions: the "mundane citizens", which include the weather teams and the pegasi who's special talents are unrelated; and the core of the Equestrian military, who also include most of the Royal Guard pegasi.
It makes sense that the original "army clan" would make up most of the modern-day military, but we see several pegasi that are quite clearly simple citizens. However, I think it's a good idea that pegasi would make up the army, not only because of their roots and personalities, but also their abilities. They obviously are capable of flight, and they have also been seen (and heard) to be capable of making their wings razor-sharp when needed.

as related to last week's episode,

I am still certain that the Wonderbolts took off Spike's spines with their hooves, not their wings.

Spoiled because I'm tired and not sure how it'd be received otherwise.

BlasTech
2011-12-18, 06:34 AM
Gah, Ponythread is too quiet ...

INCOMING IMAGEBOMB! *Hurls it at thread*

(Warning, many large images in this post. Screen stretching is inevitible.


http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/bc87a328a02d978ffdbbce1f5787f4fb/100083%20-%20absurdres%20Alicorn%20artist%3ASierraEx%20lake% 20luna%20princess%20reflection%20scenery.png
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And the 100k image on Ponibooru

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Warning - E11

Warning, HUGE!
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Verb the Noun
2011-12-18, 07:33 AM
New episode:
Yeah, I caught that too. I thought that maybe Equestrian theater is the opposite of Elizabethan theater in regards to the expected gender of its players, so actresses regularly cross-dress to play male parts.


Female officers are still referred to as "sir". Also Privet Pansy calls Commander Hurricane a her in the "I hate her more I hate you guys" scene.

Newman
2011-12-18, 09:31 AM
Been reading Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons.

What the... See, this fic takes all the grimdark that's in FO:E and... doesn't add new elements. Instead, it just takes what's there and takes it to its logical conclusion.

I've just witnessed an interrogation by raider. Not somepony being interrogated by a raider. No, it was by the hero. The interrogation was made using a raider. I said Littlepip was like the Hobo With A Shotgun. Security is like Marv from Sin City, except even more ruthless, once you piss her off. Our protagonist, ladies and gentlemen. And the worst part is, the circumstances warranted that.

The amazing thing about this fic is that it found a reasonable explanation for the raiders' absurd violence. They weren't just evil drug addicts. They're infected by a biological disease that sponges their brains.

And the Enclave is trying to turn it into a bioweapon, if they haven't already.

Thanqol
2011-12-18, 10:14 AM
Long Distance (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lu-4MmJbfFK4nSPvCQj7paxx_bXKhzvL-h4bp6p0SrY/edit?hl=en_US) has updated for those of you who follow it. Mostly a few rewrites, lengthening and solidifying. Datecoded from last edits. Feedback is appreciated.

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-18, 10:46 AM
So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)

You...

:O

Stay here forever.

legomaster00156
2011-12-18, 10:57 AM
Long Distance (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lu-4MmJbfFK4nSPvCQj7paxx_bXKhzvL-h4bp6p0SrY/edit?hl=en_US) has updated for those of you who follow it. Mostly a few rewrites, lengthening and solidifying. Datecoded from last edits. Feedback is appreciated.
Um, not sure if I'm comfortable with the Applejack x Twilight Sparkle pairing, but the Fluttershy x Rainbow Dash I am actually liking (as much as I can like any shipping within an all-female cast). The story is a solid one, and I encourage you to keep writing.

Athaniar
2011-12-18, 11:22 AM
So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)
Whoa. That's awesome. You're awesome.


Aaaaah, okay, thanks ^^

Okay, I wasn't going to get in on the episode stuff but I saw this and thought I'd throw it out there.
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/75ecf88fe38c91338a9192f9317af88a/99735%20-%20Alicorn%20alicorns%20celestia%20equestria%20fla g%20luna%20meta.PNG

Goodnight Ponythread.
You know, the alicorn to the left on the new flag reminds me of Lix's avatar. ^^


Been answered already, I just want to say that I noticed Derpy too, nice sneaky cameo there! :smallbiggrin:

Also, the turnaround time on the fanart from E11 is FAST:


Regarding the Friendship/Free Will debate ... just because Friendship worked, doesn't mean it's the only thing that would have worked!

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/351/f/d/winter_spiritbusters_by_niban_destikim-d4jevfc.jpg
Awesome. ^^



edit: also (spoilers)
http://i.imgur.com/Hkfaf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yX9mu.png
Hah! I can totally see that now (both of them).




http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/4f310ff88590a6187cb76363710d1af3/100066%20-%20artist%3Aslate%20celestia%20composure%20twiligh t_sparkle.jpg

Is that the Rainbow of Light from G1?

Newman
2011-12-18, 11:25 AM
The old books foretold their return. Their defeat... was merely a delay. In the time after the fortress in the Moon opened, and the sons of Equestria turned gray on each other, they came, to bath the world in balefire. But, there's one they feared. Until she took an arrow in the knee. (http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2932908/OH+MY+GOD/)

(Warning, swearing) (http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/218/610/99712%20-%20dovahkiin%20skyrim%20spike%20tagme.jpg?13241542 23)

http://www2.fileplanet.com/images/220000/223974ss_sm2.jpg

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Here is a fun mod for Skyrim (http://www.fileplanet.com/223974/220000/fileinfo/Elder-Scrolls-V:-Skyrim---My-Little-Pony-Bard-Song-Mod-v1.0)

Leliel
2011-12-18, 11:41 AM
Well, I really don't see what the big deal is with the whole timeline thing-we just build new theories, change the fanon accordingly, move on. Hating it just because it pokes holes in fanon is the epitome of fan immaturity, in my not-so-humble opinion.

I'm not saying it was without flaws, but I think the episode was simply an average-to-good episode in a season filled with awesome ones.

Plus, it gave me an idea for a scene in an Exalted/MLP crossover I may do:

A Ponified Malefactor, upset with what he views as the naivete of the main cast in viewing the world as anything more than a savage, vicious place where the only true law is rule or be ruled (which is ironic, since he has Compassion maxed-he just happens to have a demon's-eye perspective of the Age of Sorrows, so it's pretty true when it comes to Creation) going little god-hunting for catharsis.

He finds a few Windigos, who were attracted by the bitterness and anger of him and his Infernal friends (who also have Compassion relatively high because they're the only Exalted who can go to Equestria without feeling the urge to conquer it-but by Pony standards, they're still hateful and vicious).

Two hours later, he comes back to Ponyville, feeling a lot less grouchy, and with a backpack full of abnormally cold starmetal ore.

Rebelhero
2011-12-18, 11:43 AM
Guys guys guys.
I have the answer to all of your questions.

It was in the script. That's why.

Lix Lorn
2011-12-18, 11:49 AM
So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)
Ha! I JUST got linked to this and ponyfoldered it <3

Castaras
2011-12-18, 11:49 AM
So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)

That's amazing. So. Freaking. Amazing.

Is it all right for me to use it as my desktop background? :3

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-18, 12:27 PM
Spoilers:
You guys think the Windigos are gunna come back?

Rebelhero
2011-12-18, 12:32 PM
Spoilers:
You guys think the Windigos are gunna come back?

Nope. This is a one shot show. never expect anyone to come back.

Pokonic
2011-12-18, 12:43 PM
Been reading Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons.

What the... See, this fic takes all the grimdark that's in FO:E and... doesn't add new elements. Instead, it just takes what's there and takes it to its logical conclusion.

I've just witnessed an interrogation by raider. Not somepony being interrogated by a raider. No, it was by the hero. The interrogation was made using a raider. I said Littlepip was like the Hobo With A Shotgun. Security is like Marv from Sin City, except even more ruthless, once you piss her off. Our protagonist, ladies and gentlemen. And the worst part is, the circumstances warranted that.

The amazing thing about this fic is that it found a reasonable explanation for the raiders' absurd violence. They weren't just evil drug addicts. They're infected by a biological disease that sponges their brains.

And the Enclave is trying to turn it into a bioweapon, if they haven't already.

Yep. Horizons is amazing. Cannot wait until they manage to meet a certain King, because there is quite a bit of buildup to that. Also, on raiders: not every raider is infected with that virus. After all, if that was the case, the world would be (more) utterly screwed over. Rather, most are just simply crazy, but that virus riddles ones head with holes. That makes ponies like the Reapers even more scary, because they are at the top of there games. Which makes it worse is that some completly sane ponies turn to cannablism by choice.

Also, is it just me, or is his ability to discribe horrible things getting better? I was positivly sickened by the Hospital, but the events that happened within chapter 22 actualy made me nauseous.:smalleek: Ugg, never will I read the word "bloated" or the sentance "Hey, her liver grew back!" the same way ever again. Ever.

Gamerlord
2011-12-18, 01:11 PM
Spoilers:
You guys think the Windigos are gunna come back?
That is extremely unlikely. No villains have appeared after the episode or two-parter they premiered in (Well, there was Glueblood, but he was in the background and he was more of an antagonist.) The ending did imply they may return if ponies feud again, but I don't see any way the three races could end up in a large-scale conflict with one another again. It's probably a good idea to never seriously expect anyone to return, lest you just set yourself up for disappointment.

Kindablue
2011-12-18, 01:29 PM
Female officers are still referred to as "sir". Also Privet Pansy calls Commander Hurricane a her in the "I hate her more I hate you guys" scene.

Good to know, thanks!

Athaniar
2011-12-18, 01:40 PM
Guys guys guys.
I have the answer to all of your questions.

It was in the script. That's why.
Preposterous. Most theories I can accept, but this one is just too far out.

RobD
2011-12-18, 02:03 PM
That's amazing. So. Freaking. Amazing.

Is it all right for me to use it as my desktop background? :3

Sure it is; after all, every man has a sovereign right to his computer desktop. :tongue:

New episode:
I could've sworn that in Spike's introduction he said "a mysterious wizard". I got about 3/4 of the way through before I realized that no wizards were to be appearing. :smallfrown:
Windigos were neat, though. I love it when this show throws in cool monsters.

Anarion
2011-12-18, 02:45 PM
Guys guys guys.
I have the answer to all of your questions.

It was in the script. That's why.

This comment actually raised an interesting question for me. Is it possible to have bad writers in the pony universe? I'm sure there are some amateur writers around (e.g. Twilight's letters when her cutie mark is magic), but presumably anypony that pursued a writing career would get a writing cutie mark that would demonstrate her skill at writing. If a pony got some other cutie mark, she would be highly unlikely to go into a career as a professional writer.

Thinking about it, the only way I could see the pony universe relying on bad writing for major productions would be if writing cutie marks were so rare that there aren't enough of them to go around. And if that were true, pony writers might be in high demand and would live very wealthy and comfortable lives when they weren't writing.

...And somehow I just reached the conclusion that good fanfiction writers could get ponified and live like kings/queens.

otakuryoga
2011-12-18, 03:01 PM
This comment actually raised an interesting question for me. Is it possible to have bad writers in the pony universe? I'm sure there are some amateur writers around (e.g. Twilight's letters when her cutie mark is magic), but presumably anypony that pursued a writing career would get a writing cutie mark that would demonstrate her skill at writing. If a pony got some other cutie mark, she would be highly unlikely to go into a career as a professional writer.

Thinking about it, the only way I could see the pony universe relying on bad writing for major productions would be if writing cutie marks were so rare that there aren't enough of them to go around. And if that were true, pony writers might be in high demand and would live very wealthy and comfortable lives when they weren't writing.

...And somehow I just reached the conclusion that good fanfiction writers could get ponified and live like kings/queens.

naw...just like here im sure bad writers could make a living
--either through Patronage(we have seen sycophantic behavior among the "upper class" so someone mentions to a "lesser" they have a nephew that fancies himself a writer and to impress their "better" someone will fund his play/publish his book)
--or through prolific writing of trashy romance novels(like we see Rarity reading in so many fanfics...she just seems the type)

Pokonic
2011-12-18, 03:04 PM
This comment actually raised an interesting question for me. Is it possible to have bad writers in the pony universe? I'm sure there are some amateur writers around (e.g. Twilight's letters when her cutie mark is magic), but presumably anypony that pursued a writing career would get a writing cutie mark that would demonstrate her skill at writing. If a pony got some other cutie mark, she would be highly unlikely to go into a career as a professional writer.

Thinking about it, the only way I could see the pony universe relying on bad writing for major productions would be if writing cutie marks were so rare that there aren't enough of them to go around. And if that were true, pony writers might be in high demand and would live very wealthy and comfortable lives when they weren't writing.

...And somehow I just reached the conclusion that good fanfiction writers could get ponified and live like kings/queens.


To be fair, it depends on the situation. A earth pony that could write legably with is mouth could make a fortune on the novalty alown. A unicorn using magic would be nothing special, but juging from the one peice of actual writing we have, it would take a lot of time to learn eastern european-type letters. Hence the use of pictures on common items. Notably, most writing might be done by nonpony scribes, for thumbs would make things a whole lot easier to deal with the issuse of handling a pen. Not so much baby dragons, but creatures with actual hands like Dimond dogs or even griffons. As such, most things handwritten could be unicorn made, but others find it cheaper to have another creature to write it down.


As for writing cuti marks: we have seen a few scroll-and-paper cutimarks on the flanks of more than a few backround ponies, but those could mean anything from producing the paper and ink to actual writing. Its feasable, and there are ponies for everything, but they are probably part of the stuck-up unicorn elite.

Lix Lorn
2011-12-18, 03:46 PM
This comment actually raised an interesting question for me. Is it possible to have bad writers in the pony universe? I'm sure there are some amateur writers around (e.g. Twilight's letters when her cutie mark is magic), but presumably anypony that pursued a writing career would get a writing cutie mark that would demonstrate her skill at writing. If a pony got some other cutie mark, she would be highly unlikely to go into a career as a professional writer.

Thinking about it, the only way I could see the pony universe relying on bad writing for major productions would be if writing cutie marks were so rare that there aren't enough of them to go around. And if that were true, pony writers might be in high demand and would live very wealthy and comfortable lives when they weren't writing.

...And somehow I just reached the conclusion that good fanfiction writers could get ponified and live like kings/queens.
Write it brony.

vegetalss4
2011-12-18, 03:57 PM
To be fair, it depends on the situation. A earth pony that could write legably with is mouth could make a fortune on the novalty alown. A unicorn using magic would be nothing special, but juging from the one peice of actual writing we have, it would take a lot of time to learn eastern european-type letters. Hence the use of pictures on common items. Notably, most writing might be done by nonpony scribes, for thumbs would make things a whole lot easier to deal with the issuse of handling a pen. Not so much baby dragons, but creatures with actual hands like Dimond dogs or even griffons. As such, most things handwritten could be unicorn made, but others find it cheaper to have another creature to write it down.
I would note that we have seen more ponies write with their mouths, than we have seen Unicorns write with magic. So really I would think that earth ponies being able to write is more like basic education than any sort of novelty, remember the ponies do seem to have a rather fine manipulation through their mouths, not just in writing but also for hammering and painting and stuff.

This comment actually raised an interesting question for me. Is it possible to have bad writers in the pony universe? I'm sure there are some amateur writers around (e.g. Twilight's letters when her cutie mark is magic), but presumably anypony that pursued a writing career would get a writing cutie mark that would demonstrate her skill at writing. If a pony got some other cutie mark, she would be highly unlikely to go into a career as a professional writer.


Thinking about it, the only way I could see the pony universe relying on bad writing for major productions would be if writing cutie marks were so rare that there aren't enough of them to go around. And if that were true, pony writers might be in high demand and would live very wealthy and comfortable lives when they weren't writing.

...And somehow I just reached the conclusion that good fanfiction writers could get ponified and live like kings/queens.
I would imagine that not every writer has a writing cutie mark, just the best of them. If nothing else there would be autobiographies written by famous ponies and text books written by ponies with marks about research of the subject at hand.
Now that I think about it, not even every celebrated writer would necessarily have a writing mark, I mean if Tolkien had been a pony he would probably have a linguistic cutie mark.

Gadora
2011-12-18, 04:09 PM
Okay, it's time to make a new gets-maintained-each-thread sort of post.

Here are all the IRC logs I've got since I started having GadLog save them to DropBox:
#newponyepisode
December 10, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-10.log)
December 11, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-11.log)

December 17, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-17.log)
December 18, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-18.log)

#ponythreadRP
December 17, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-17.log)

Dec 18-Dec 24
December 18, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-18.log)
December 19, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-19.log)
December 20, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-20.log)
December 21, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-21.log)
December 22, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-22.log)
December 23, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-23.log)

Please keep in mind that, since I lack an internet capable desktop, GadLog is run off of a laptop. This means that, in addition to normal human and machine fallibility, when my laptop needs to leave home, there will regrettably be gaps.

Pokonic
2011-12-18, 04:13 PM
I would imagine that not every writer has a writing cutie mark, just the best of them. If nothing else there would be autobiographies written by famous ponies and text books written by ponies with marks about research of the subject at hand.
Now that I think about it, not even every celebrated writer would necessarily have a writing mark, I mean if Tolkien had been a pony he would probably have a linguistic cutie mark.

A block of small text of elvish deerish runes?

Now I am wondering what Paolinis would look like.:smallbiggrin:

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-18, 04:18 PM
Okay, it's time to make a new gets-maintained-each-thread sort of post.

Here are all the IRC logs I've got since I started having GadLog save them to DropBox:
#newponyepisode
December 10, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-10.log)
December 11, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-11.log)

December 17, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-17.log)
December 18, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23newponyepisode.2011-12-18.log)

#ponythread

Dec 6-Dec 10
December 6, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-06.log)
December 7, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-07.log)
December 8, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-08.log)
December 9, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-09.log)
December 10, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-10.log)
Dec 11-Dec 18
December 11, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-11.log)
December 12, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-12.log)
December 13, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-13.log)
December 14, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-14.log)
December 16, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-16.log)
December 17, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-17.log)
Dec 18-Dec 24
December 18, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythread.2011-12-18.log)



#ponythreadRP
December 17, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-17.log)

Dec 18-Dec 24
December 18, 2011 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52294630/IRC%20Logs/irc.sorcery.net/channels/%23ponythreadRP.2011-12-18.log)

Please keep in mind that, since I lack an internet capable desktop, GadLog is run off of a laptop. This means that, in addition to normal human and machine fallibility, when my laptop needs to leave home, there will regrettably be gaps.

Ack! The zaniness! That could influence people's opinons of meeeee!

Newman
2011-12-18, 04:39 PM
So long as you don't display an idiosyncratic, easily identifiable personality, you'll be fine. Just discard your handle and acquire a new one.

Tectonic Robot
2011-12-18, 05:28 PM
So long as you don't display an idiosyncratic, easily identifiable personality, you'll be fine. Just discard your handle and acquire a new one.

...I don't want to have to reintroduce myself to all my friends! And I think they all like the idiosyncratic personality... things I display.

Diego Havoc
2011-12-18, 05:31 PM
So.... this pic was on EqD (episode 11 spoilers)
See that fresco on the right? What kinda monster do you think that is? Looks vaguely draconic...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7RCE8CCwGVk/Tu2pepk4zrI/AAAAAAAAYUQ/RP8_OaDQqdE/s1600/1.jpg


Anyway, I mentioned doing a bit of Telephone Pictionary a while back. I was wondering if anyone was still interested in doing it? I'm setting one up on Canterlot.com and was thinking that maybe a big cross-board game might be fun. We have 14 or 15 players or so already. Let me know here or through PM, and if there's enough interest, I'll set up a topic in the Structured games section and we'll go from there.

Deadly
2011-12-18, 05:38 PM
So.... this pic was on EqD (episode 11 spoilers)
See that fresco on the right? What kinda monster do you think that is? Looks vaguely draconic...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7RCE8CCwGVk/Tu2pepk4zrI/AAAAAAAAYUQ/RP8_OaDQqdE/s1600/1.jpg

Looks like a sea serpent. But since it's a pegasus city, maybe it's a sky serpent?

Pokonic
2011-12-18, 05:39 PM
So.... this pic was on EqD (episode 11 spoilers)
See that fresco on the right? What kinda monster do you think that is? Looks vaguely draconic...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7RCE8CCwGVk/Tu2pepk4zrI/AAAAAAAAYUQ/RP8_OaDQqdE/s1600/1.jpg


Going from the lack of lower legs, could be a Linnorm. On the other hand, I wonder if they knew that a thing called a Drakon existed in greek myth? Basicly, it was a gigantic serpent-thing with forlegs. Fits the greek theme, at least. Makes me wonder if there is a whole greek-themed area out there that has all the varying animal monsters of greek myth as wildlife.


On the other hand, Steven Magnet could have had some badflank ancestors.:smalltongue:


Looks like a sea serpent. But since it's a pegasus city, maybe it's a sky serpent?

does not have the usual feathers that go along with that sort of creature. What is the blurred thing to the right? Cant tell if its a wing or a claw.

BlasTech
2011-12-18, 06:46 PM
Whoa. That's awesome. You're awesome.


You know, the alicorn to the left on the new flag reminds me of Lix's avatar. ^^

...

Lixie founded Equestria? That explains ... alot :smallbiggrin:



Is that the Rainbow of Light from G1?

I can't see what you're referring to in that pic? Looks to me it's just Twi and Celestia sharing an apple by a tree.


Long Distance (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lu-4MmJbfFK4nSPvCQj7paxx_bXKhzvL-h4bp6p0SrY/edit?hl=en_US) has updated for those of you who follow it. Mostly a few rewrites, lengthening and solidifying. Datecoded from last edits. Feedback is appreciated.

Quoted to read when I get home tonight.


...I don't want to have to reintroduce myself to all my friends! And I think they all like the idiosyncratic personality... things I display.

Yay idiosyncracy!

Tiki Snakes
2011-12-18, 07:12 PM
See, the thing is, the best writers tend to write what they know. So if your super special talent is writing itself, then, well. Your books will surely be full of excellent, empty but superbly crafted prose.

The truly excellent pony-novels would come from experts in other fields, who just so happen to be literate enough not embarrass themselves. Whether their talent is storytelling, agriculture, magic, cookery or what have you, they will be the books that really catch ponies imaginations.

Newman
2011-12-18, 07:23 PM
...I don't want to have to reintroduce myself to all my friends! And I think they all like the idiosyncratic personality... things I display.

Well you can't have your cake and eat it. Either you're anonymous, friendless and blend into genericness in such a way that, were people to start hating you, you could simply come back with another name and no-one would notice (automatically losing touch with everyone and having to start every relationship from scratch), or you develop a well-known personality that you will carry like a flagship, allowing people to recognize you regardless of handle. Some people have such an irrepressible personality that they have no choice in the matter. People who have interacted with them for a sufficient time will recognize them no matter what disguise they try to don. These people must as careful about their Internet behavior and statements as they would be in Real Life, much more so even. since there is no such thing as privacy, and your words are instantaneously recordable and infintely reproductible to a universal audience regardless of your will: you have no legal power over them, unlike, say, what happens on a private discussion with your friends.

So, if you're going to do things that might affect people's opinion of you, especially if there is the faintest trail that would allow one to trace you to your real-life persona, be-ware. Be very very wary.

Kyouhen
2011-12-18, 07:40 PM
S2:E11
http://foxx278.tripod.com/akima01.jpg
I'm never calling it that.

Your picture broked. Care to repost it? I'm curious to see what you put up. :smalltongue:


Unicorns couldn't really wear rings on their horns anyway unless they constantly used their magic to keep them there...if they nodded their heads the ring would slide right off since the horns are tapered fairly sharply


Unless the rings were set up like a nut and screws in through those little threads unicorns have in their horns.


Okay, my two bits to pony history:
Celestia and Luna were always deities, but not physical deities. This explains why they were on the Equestrian banner (other than a potential in-universe of Did Not Do The Research), when they didn't rule Equestria. Celestia and Luna were presented in a pony form for the same reasons why ancient civilizations' gods in the real world are portrayed as having a human form.
My guess is that around when Discord decided to cause all hell to everypony, Celestia and Luna decided to take physical form to create and/or wield the Elements of Harmony to stop him.
However, when they did stop Discord, either A: the sisters were unable to return to whence they came, B: they decided to stay out of their free will and love for the ponies. Either way, the unicorns surrender their role of controlling the sun and moon, and the Sisters take roles as princesses of Equestria.
Until Luna gets jealous and becomes Nightmare Moon.

New Ep?

My main problem with this theory is the fact that every pony in the show seems to treat the princesses as royalty instead of gods. I'm willing to accept that they could forget things like the history of Discord and whatnot, but I can't accept the idea that they'd all randomly forget that there's a pair of gods living down the street



So, hey! I've finished a pict I've been working on for the last few days. Take a look!
It's....uh, it's quite a bit too big to post in the thread. Sorry. Here's a link instead! (http://robd2003.deviantart.com/art/PnD-Return-to-the-Castle-of-the-Royal-Pony-Sisters-274449541)

Wow, I'm several degrees of impress.

otakuryoga
2011-12-18, 07:44 PM
So.... this pic was on EqD (episode 11 spoilers)
See that fresco on the right? What kinda monster do you think that is? Looks vaguely draconic...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7RCE8CCwGVk/Tu2pepk4zrI/AAAAAAAAYUQ/RP8_OaDQqdE/s1600/1.jpg




id call it a quetzacoatl (winged serpent from aztec legends)

BlasTech
2011-12-18, 07:56 PM
Well you can't have your cake and eat it. Either you're anonymous, friendless and blend into genericness in such a way that, were people to start hating you, you could simply come back with another name and no-one would notice (automatically losing touch with everyone and having to start every relationship from scratch), or you develop a well-known personality that you will carry like a flagship, allowing people to recognize you regardless of handle. Some people have such an irrepressible personality that they have no choice in the matter. People who have interacted with them for a sufficient time will recognize them no matter what disguise they try to don. These people must as careful about their Internet behavior and statements as they would be in Real Life, much more so even. since there is no such thing as privacy, and your words are instantaneously recordable and infintely reproductible to a universal audience regardless of your will: you have no legal power over them, unlike, say, what happens on a private discussion with your friends.

So, if you're going to do things that might affect people's opinion of you, especially if there is the faintest trail that would allow one to trace you to your real-life persona, be-ware. Be very very wary.

*A unicorn Guardpony in full regalia walks in*

CAUTION?!?! THIS. IS. PONYSANITY!

*Throws a pie at Newman*

Thanqol
2011-12-18, 08:10 PM
See, the thing is, the best writers tend to write what they know. So if your super special talent is writing itself, then, well. Your books will surely be full of excellent, empty but superbly crafted prose.

The truly excellent pony-novels would come from experts in other fields, who just so happen to be literate enough not embarrass themselves. Whether their talent is storytelling, agriculture, magic, cookery or what have you, they will be the books that really catch ponies imaginations.

I disagree with this on absolutely every level imaginable. Neil Gaiman, for instance, has never been kidnapped by faeries, and isn't a barely literate expert from another field. Terry Pratchett was a switchboard operator for a few years before he became a writer, and has been writing for decades since, and his talent isn't switchboard operating being applied to writing. It's writing. And I've never suffered insanity or personal trauma, I have cursory interest in economics and business but they're not what I write about, or write for - and you're telling me that my prose will always be empty and hollow?

It's taking me a lot of effort not to get personally offended.

BlasTech
2011-12-18, 08:19 PM
I disagree with this on absolutely every level imaginable. Neil Gaiman, for instance, has never been kidnapped by faeries, and isn't a barely literate expert from another field. Terry Pratchett was a switchboard operator for a few years before he became a writer, and has been writing for decades since, and his talent isn't switchboard operating being applied to writing. It's writing. And I've never suffered insanity or personal trauma, I have cursory interest in economics and business but they're not what I write about, or write for - and you're telling me that my prose will always be empty and hollow?

It's taking me a lot of effort not to get personally offended.

*The unicorn pony notices Thanqol*

HAVE AT THEE!

*Throws a calming pie at him too.

Kyouhen
2011-12-18, 08:24 PM
*The unicorn pony notices Thanqol*

HAVE AT THEE!

*Throws a calming pie at him too.

Did you use extra butter on that pie? I hope you used extra butter.

Lix Lorn
2011-12-18, 08:25 PM
...

Lixie founded Equestria? That explains ... alot :smallbiggrin:
...what could that possibly explain? XD


I disagree with this on absolutely every level imaginable. Neil Gaiman, for instance, has never been kidnapped by faeries, and isn't a barely literate expert from another field. Terry Pratchett was a switchboard operator for a few years before he became a writer, and has been writing for decades since, and his talent isn't switchboard operating being applied to writing. It's writing. And I've never suffered insanity or personal trauma, I have cursory interest in economics and business but they're not what I write about, or write for - and you're telling me that my prose will always be empty and hollow?

It's taking me a lot of effort not to get personally offended.
This.

Thanqol
2011-12-18, 08:26 PM
*The unicorn pony notices Thanqol*

HAVE AT THEE!

*Throws a calming pie at him too.

Hm

I've been hit by a pie and I'm not surprised by it. I am, in fact, calm. Which means I can plot out my vengeance with perfect clarity.

*Picks up eggbeater, whirs it ominously*

Kyouhen
2011-12-18, 08:28 PM
Hm

I've been hit by a pie and I'm not surprised by it. I am, in fact, calm. Which means I can plot out my vengeance with perfect clarity.

*Picks up eggbeater, whirs it ominously*

Tormato? Tormato.

...Why is that the first thing I thought of?

Pokonic
2011-12-18, 08:39 PM
*A unicorn Guardpony in full regalia walks in*

CAUTION?!?! THIS. IS. PONYSANITY!

*Throws a pie at Newman*

Nah, it would be the !!Sparten!! pegusi who would be kicking the followers of that living god into the pit. To be fair, a picture of a decked out Celestia in all that gold overlooking 300 pegusi would be epic. Also, Flutteritas.:smallbiggrin:

HalfTangible
2011-12-18, 08:46 PM
I disagree with this on absolutely every level imaginable. Neil Gaiman, for instance, has never been kidnapped by faeries, and isn't a barely literate expert from another field. Terry Pratchett was a switchboard operator for a few years before he became a writer, and has been writing for decades since, and his talent isn't switchboard operating being applied to writing. It's writing. And I've never suffered insanity or personal trauma, I have cursory interest in economics and business but they're not what I write about, or write for - and you're telling me that my prose will always be empty and hollow?

It's taking me a lot of effort not to get personally offended.

'Things you know' doesn't mean 'things you've personally experienced', Thanqol. Issac Asimov may never have built a nuclear power generator the size of a grape, but he'd imagined his universe so strongly that he knew what that would be like. J.K. Rowling may never have cast a spell, but she admitted she based Harry and his friends (and even locations like the forbidden forest) off of real people and things. I've never been a soldier but I know what I'd LIKE to be in that position. Things like that.

As opposed to an Aetheist trying to write a story based around religious faith, or a spoiled rich kid writing about growing up in a ghetto.

Thanqol
2011-12-18, 08:48 PM
'Things you know' doesn't mean 'things you've personally experienced', Thanqol. Issac Asimov may never have built a nuclear power generator the size of a grape, but he'd imagined his universe so strongly that he knew what that would be like. J.K. Rowling may never have cast a spell, but she admitted she based Harry and his friends (and even locations like the forbidden forest) off of real people and things.

If imagining things strongly counts as knowledge then the statement is aggressively meaningless and I should be getting much higher marks on my exams.

Lix Lorn
2011-12-18, 08:49 PM
Yes, but that's not what he said. He said that 'See, the thing is, the best writers tend to write what they know. So if your super special talent is writing itself, then, well. Your books will surely be full of excellent, empty but superbly crafted prose. '

You don't have to be an EXPERT in something to know it. You don't have to have a special talent for apple bucking to know enough about it to write a book about an apple bucker. You need to do the research. Same as humans do.

HalfTangible
2011-12-18, 08:50 PM
If imagining things strongly counts as knowledge then the statement is aggressively meaningless and I should be getting much higher marks on my exams.

It does when you're writing fiction, because you're making everything up anyway.

Thanqol
2011-12-18, 08:50 PM
Yes, but that's not what he said. He said that 'See, the thing is, the best writers tend to write what they know. So if your super special talent is writing itself, then, well. Your books will surely be full of excellent, empty but superbly crafted prose. '

You don't have to be an EXPERT in something to know it. You don't have to have a special talent for apple bucking to know enough about it to write a book about an apple bucker. You need to do the research. Same as humans do.

For that matter, I'm having a hard time thinking of any Nobel physicists, bioweapons experts or former presidents of the united states who have written anything I'd be remotely interested in reading.


It does when you're writing fiction, because you're making everything up anyway.

Then the statement means nothing at all. Because there is no knowledge, it is impossible to write what you know, which means that chefs have no advantage over trained writers.

Also, if you think that fiction is 'making everything up' then you are wrong.