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Trixie
2012-02-17, 06:08 PM
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Trixie's Great and Powerful Guide v1.96
No One Edition

Brief Introduction

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is a reboot of the MLP franchise by Powerpuff Girls artist Lauren Faust, currently viewed by (almost) the entire Internet, not only the intended audience. Here is a place where we discuss the joy of friendship.

> My Little Pony? Seriously?

It's a clever show. It has excellent writing, character dynamics, humor, animation, and generally treats kids seriously rather than condescending to them. It has every right to be a 20 minute corporate committee designed infomercial, but it's not.

> Isn't this a show for little girls?

Pixar technically makes shows for little boys, and produce some of the best animation in the world.

> Okay, fine. I'll give it a try. Where do I start?

No Brony could ask for more. I recommend watching the episodes in order. They're all up on Youtube. Unusually, Hasbro seems fine with having the entire series up in public because they've made no move to bring down any of the episodes. Search for "Friendship is Magic Episode 1" and you should find the series pretty easily... Or search for "Sharing is Magic" Google Doc. That is all.

> Okay, I'm going to watch it but this had better live up to the hype!

Whoa, calm down there. The show is light hearted, optimistic fun but it's not for everyone. It's good fun, the community is good fun, and everyone can do with a reminder that friendship is magic but if it doesn't gel for you we'll love and tolerate you anyway. Plus, you might hit the wrong episode. Ask first?

> Iron Hoof/Fan Theories/Shipping/Binding

All in good fun! If it's not your cup of tea, skim it, but this show has triggered a great creative outpouring from the Internet. Pony themed fan-art is abundant and often excellent. See below for some examples.

> Derpy Hooves/Doctor Whoof

Two minor background characters who were adopted as emblems of 4chan. Derpy Hooves is so named due to an animation error in the first episode that had her eyes facing in different directions; 4chan has assigned her the role of Ponyville's mailpony, and her only line so far has been "Muffins". The show's animators are aware of Derpy's popularity and she's shown up a few times recently with her eyes obviously derped. Currently made canon in Feeling Pinkie Keen and in Faust's picture showcased below, Derpy was deemed important enough to appear in storyboards for Season II.

Dr. Whoof is a pony with an hourglass cutie mark; he and his kin save time and space very quietly off camera.


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Ponytar Artists

Alarra
Alterform
Crown of Thorns
Dirtytabs
Irbis
Kairaven
Khosan
Trixie
...and a lot more besides.

If you do/don't want to be here, please make a note in the thread.

New: Official PonyPic Request Thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217442)!
Old Requests [Archived] (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10616651)

General Resources

Fan Fiction and News: Equestria Daily (http://www.equestriadaily.com/)
Discussion Image Forum: Ponychan (http://www.ponychan.net/chan/)
Pony Emotes: FiM Emotes (http://kefkafloyd.imgur.com/J8S59)
More Emotes: MC's Emotes (http://gitpmcerberus.imgur.com/ponymote)
Also Emotes: GD's Emotes (http://gadora.imgur.com/seekret_pony_projekt_1/1)
Pony Images: Ponibooru (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/list)
More Images: 20% Cooler (http://twentypercentcooler.net/)
Know Your Meme: Ponies! (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic)
Allspark MLP Discussion Thread (http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76678&st=0&start=0)

Art Resources


OC Pony Creation Guide:

>How to make OC Pony (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/_images/048648773b808749ecbcd93b7825d545/22629%20-%20original_character_tutorial%20tutorial.png)<
>How to clothe a Pony (http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/10448a8bf5139a93e47ee0ab2185d577/23650%20-%20Touhou%20artist%3Awhy485%20drawing_guide%20fash ion%20guide%20pony%20tutorial.png)<

Deviant Art Links:

Lauren Faust (http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/)

14 Bis (http://14-bis.deviantart.com/)
ButterSS (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/)
Csimadmax (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/)
DonKoRR (http://don-komandorr.deviantart.com/)
Irving Zero (http://irving-zero.deviantart.com/)
Johnjoseco (http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/)
Kloudmutt (http://kloudmutt.deviantart.com/)
Palestorm (http://palestorm.deviantart.com/)
Shinepaw (http://shinepawpony.deviantart.com/)

>Awesome Great and Powerful Trixie (http://kp-shadowsquirrel.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49ccgo)<

Tutorials:

How to Draw Luna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YoOgNwPp4)
MLP Art Guides (http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/DJPon-3/)
MLP Colour Guides (http://kefkafloyd.deviantart.com/)

Kloud TV (http://www.livestream.com/kloudmutt)

Concepts:

On the Design of the Mane Cast (http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/107/092/original/122%20-%20applejack%20chart%20fluttershy%20pinkie_pie%20r ainbow_dash%20rarity%20twilight_sparkle.jpg)

Concept art by L. Faust:

AJ/AJ (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtv1PUCI/AAAAAAAABPg/aTDHM_vJ3Ek/Applejack-08.jpg)
Pinkie/Surprise (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtjpEWrI/AAAAAAAABPc/vlcKpVmK1FY/Pinkie_08.jpg)
Rarity/Sparkler (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuba65VI/AAAAAAAABPo/o7oJ1OI4bcE/Rarity_08.jpg)
Twilight/Twinkle (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuS8XZtI/AAAAAAAABPs/9CPSE6Je1Y0/Twilight_08.jpg)
Derpy/Ditzy (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtusFdII/AAAAAAAABPk/4VbhxajIt1o/Derpy_11.jpg)

Group Shot (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPGxLKSxqsI/Tet-724kmrI/AAAAAAAABoc/74J43JjtvVc/mlplegroupruff.jpg)

5 Best Pictures [IMHO]:

TG&P Trixie 1 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoSj31bI/AAAAAAAABKc/yhAESX1bWDU/129879022202-fim_thebestmagic2.png) 2a (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevesc6Z3I/AAAAAAAABJE/wqYR1YU8-xM/129878791125-Magic_for_Friendship.png) 2b (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoV0tFSI/AAAAAAAABKg/UIrpK2_XUDk/345%20-%20filly%20flower%20Magic%20noel%20Trixie.jpg) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevn1UZNyI/AAAAAAAABJI/JQaTPZ7u9kk/1295392718493.png)
Twilight Sparkle 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQKpEFW1I/AAAAAAAABKo/PJmzRBt_g0o/twilight-%28n1298746506900%29.jpg) 2 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYgEWabUv0I/AAAAAAAABJg/S1emWO9FjbE/1297919269027.png) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQAwKvFvI/AAAAAAAABKk/08Q9f1BaGa0/1298478186234.png)
Rainbow Dash 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tuXX0V5I/AAAAAAAABOE/vPLwNGpCsU8/rainbows_are_awesome_by_adamrbi-d3awtkv.jpg) 2 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tugAF4JI/AAAAAAAABOI/RYGrQCZySJo/1298478713223.jpg) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tutzFrYI/AAAAAAAABOM/QP22FdlygtA/1299129766866.png) 3.6 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-vxE-8GgI/AAAAAAAABOY/ktOwjPQ3eiI/130057856759.png)
Fluttershy 1 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiSMaDSI/AAAAAAAABPQ/FNLXj6WE0ss/yofluttershybyarborishd.png) 2 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiUXQlvI/AAAAAAAABPU/SCs7qzer-6E/129860262040.png) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiWhyIWI/AAAAAAAABPY/r6ClIhygmw0/1297113141466.png)

Pony Games

The most recent one. (http://www.yoyogames.com/games/168448-mlp-fim-the-way-home#)
Pacderpy (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/pacderpy.html)
Two very similar dash based (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/dashattack.html) cloud gathering sidescrollers (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/rainbowdashmini.html)
Pony generator I (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/custompony.html)
Pony generator II (http://derpyhooves.com/games.php?id=3)
Pony generator III (http://generalzoi.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Pony-Creator-Beta-210228500)

New: Pinkie licks cupcakes. (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-202202384?q=boost%3Apopular%20max_age%3A8h%20frien dship%20is%20magic&qo=22) And a playthrough for it, too. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUy1UtuNet0)
Collect Cupcakes, Lick Ponies! 2.0 (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-TWO-202342576)

Nice Fanwork


5AMVs:5Always (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhgzpnTYCXQ)Communism is Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJHZ4E9tRHM)Derpy Cardcaptor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWG0KLSJi8g)[BR]Freeze Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXhEXQSXSw)[BR]I can go the distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYonN9in668)[BR]Last Unicorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwT7V_LsRQo)[BR]Lunasong (Not Your Night) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcJa44GWq8)[BR]Muffins & Bubbles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_y8uRYI8Y)[BR]Pinkie's Brew (EE) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682pneYoP0c)[BR]PonyCraft 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJbAT1wzS8U)[BR]Still Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za9f1c93FHY)[BR]The Stars Will Aid In Her Escape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV_0n5gp1fE)[BR]The G&P Heretic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4szgPK9Rufw)1Ponies (That are British) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOi3StWmG7A)1[B]Equestria Girls EE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo)[BR]Hub Summer Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKjBViIt-y8)[BR]Hop-Skip-Jump [original] (http://soundcloud.com/dannyimusic/mlp1-hop-skip-jump-song)[BR]Smile, Smile, Smile! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFf_rGavnFk)1Old Pony Songs 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLqc8BSQMg) & 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCpBYLHIEuI)[BR]Ponies! (http://ponyvspony.com/)[BR]5[B]Comics:5The Damn Best Comic (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/359/5/9/pinkiedeadpool_by_csimadmax-d35ms08.jpg). Ever.And The Prequel (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/107/1/f/pinkiedeadpool_origins_by_csimadmax-d3e936w.png).[BR]And part two (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/147/8/b/battle_for_equestria_02_by_csimadmax-d3hdr5c.png).[BR]And three (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/154/2/1/battle_for_equestria_03_by_csimadmax-d3hz63e.png).[BR]And four (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/160/a/f/battle_for_equestria_04_by_csimadmax-d3iighp.png).[BR]And five (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/168/4/0/battle_for_equestria_05_by_csimadmax-d3j5nlu.png).[BR]Six (http://www.deviantart.com/download/256435109/battle_for_equestria_06_by_csimadmax-d48oalh.png) / Seven (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/7/6/battle_for_equestria_07_by_csimadmax-d49cgt7.png) / Eight (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/0/7/battle_for_equestria_08_by_csimadmax-d49dpsp.png).1Metaponies (http://gavalanche.deviantart.com/gallery/29877487).[BR]5[B]ED Fics:5Twilight Sky Over Canterlot (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-twilight-sky-over-canterlot.html)Sidelines / Midnight's Tale (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html)[BR]World Without Rainbows (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-world-without-rainbows.html)[BR]Luxury Lotus Spa Follies (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-luxury-lotus-spa-follies.html)[BR]How Lyra Met Bon-Bon (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/02/story-how-lyra-met-bon-bon.html)[BR]Letters from Bubbly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-letters-from-bubbly-1-10.html)[BR]Swayback Mountain (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-swayback-mountain.html)[BR]And Life Goes On (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-your-greatest-fan.html)[BR]The Three Notes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-three-notes.html)[BR]TGaP Trixie (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-great-and-powerful-trixie.html)[BR]Antipodes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-antipodes.html)[BR]Progress (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-progress-luna-versus-microwave.html)[BR]Bubbles (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-bubbles.html)1Pony Drinking Game (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3cng5n)[BR]|
5[B](Other) Songs:5At The Gala / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSmihuY5ms)Fluttershy's Lullaby / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDxuMvnehs)[BR]So Many Wonders / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbt-Z2RwfM)[BR][BR]The French and Powerful Trixie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpeVg7yMv8)[BR][BR]At The Gala / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlVRN-qePmA)[BR]Art of the Dress / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clm3GjqncJs)[BR]Winter Wrap Up / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfqIEGb2s5w)5[B]GitP Fics:5AmishPirate (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20TheAmishPirate)1Darth BC (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Bobcat)1Deadly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Adcoon):[BR][BR]Trollestia 1 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/200/0/b/trickster_goddess_nr_1_by_adcoon-d40tt3d.png) 2 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/201/a/4/trickster_goddess_nr_2_by_adcoon-d414fzw.png) 3 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/214/1/3/trickster_goddess_nr_3_by_adcoon-d42h2hx.png) 4 (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/229/0/d/trickster_goddess_nr_4_by_adcoon-d46vksj.png).1EsperDerek (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20EsperDerek)1Grif (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Grif)1PhantomFox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20PhantomFox):[BR][BR]Pride Goes Before a Folly (http://phantomfox7.deviantart.com/art/Pride-Goes-Before-A-Folly-211724143)1PhoeKun (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Phoe)1Raz Fox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Raz_Fox)1Thanqol (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Thanqol)[BR]

Important GitP Links

Thread I - Because Friendship Is Magic
Thread II - Now About 20% Cooler
Thread III - The Great & Powerful Thread
Thread IV - Friendship is Sufficiently Advanced Technology
Thread V - Art of the Thread
Thread VI - MUFFINS!
Thread VII - The Grand Galloping Thread
Thread VIII - Friendship is Music
Thread IX - The Best Thread Ever
Thread X - We Trot 'til We Drop
Thread XI - "Mmph!"
Thread XII - No One Can Groove Like the Girls with the Hooves
Thread XIII - Fast/Fine/Fierce Thread
Thread XIV - Boots on Hooves / Bikinis on Top
Thread XV - The Greater and Powerful-er Thread
Thread XVI - There's a Pony for That!
Thread XVII - Call Upon the Thread Ponies!
Thread XVIII - Perfect Isn't Easy
Thread XIX - I Emptied Your Thread
Thread XX & Thread XX - Appletastic Treats
Thread XXI - A Very Minty Thread
Thread XXII - Surprise!
Thread XXIII - It. Is. ON!
Thread XXIV - Now About 200% Longer Than Firefly
Thread XXV - Au Contraire, Mon Ami!
Thread XXVI - Applebloom to Zecora!
Thread XXVII - Eternal Chaos comes with Chocolate Rain
Thread XXVIII - In the Crazy of 40.000 Posts, There is Only Pony!
Thread XXIX - The Spoilers have been DOUBLED!
Thread XXX - Trixie Treats!
Thread XXXI - The Great and Powerful XXXie!
Thread XXXII - Find a Ponythread, and Soarin' the heck out of it!
Thread XXXIII - Happy Birthday Pony(thread)!
Thread XXXIV - There is Pony of it, no exceptions!
Thread XXXV - The Thread Everypony Should Know

Operation: Indiscriminate Friendship
Pony Week Discussion Thread
Pony Crime Pulp Fic/Game Thread


Want to Draw? Ponies will help!
Want to RP? My Little Pony: FiM RP Recruitment Thread.
Want to join the list of GitP Bronies (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApgaWduo83XldFhETWUtWm96b1BFS1dHOF84dTBGM lE&hl=en_US#gid=0)?
Want to join Steam GitP MLP Group (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GitPony
)?

Thanqol
2012-02-17, 06:12 PM
It was only after I'd woken up that I realised that a pizza shop was perhaps not the best place to hide the bioweapons.

Woo, ponies!

Trixie
2012-02-17, 06:14 PM
[post reserved for later use]

Lix Lorn
2012-02-17, 06:20 PM
HUGS FOR THE HUG NOT QUITE GOD
PONI FOR THE PONI THREAD
(hugs all)

Rebelhero
2012-02-17, 06:27 PM
Yay! i was around for the opening of a new thread! =D
Quick i need something witty to post!
.....
uhhhh....


OUR FRIENDSHIP IS THE FRIENDSHIP THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!

Topaz
2012-02-17, 06:30 PM
New Thread! Have some mustaches!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IzJHEDkSFlA/Tz7Iqoo2ybI/AAAAAAAAfcY/pJs8NRd4bME/s1600/mustache_ponies_by_acesential-d4pz9yt.png

TheAmishPirate
2012-02-17, 06:36 PM
New Thread! Have some mustaches!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IzJHEDkSFlA/Tz7Iqoo2ybI/AAAAAAAAfcY/pJs8NRd4bME/s1600/mustache_ponies_by_acesential-d4pz9yt.png

I'll see your mustaches and raise you BEARDS
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8JHn4w1cIpk/TYRj_08h-tI/AAAAAAAACaI/BjY1buqHO-M/s1600/1300512761109.png

Athaniar
2012-02-17, 06:45 PM
*Brings in the comfy chair*

New thread! Nice. What to post? Updated Kém slightly:
http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/GitPLordXavius/Kmv11.png
Griffon language trivia: the writing on her sword means "loyalty", the tattoo on her hand means "Copper".

Nothing else really. *Waves to the nice ponies*

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-17, 06:47 PM
New ponythread taste, same great ponymote filling:

Original Batch
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MCerberus
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Crazy!Twi
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Kyouhen Series feat. Ninja Pinkie!
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gildicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon1.png
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Misc:

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Seekrit Pony Projekt
1-20
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21-40
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41-60
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61-80
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81-100
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101-112
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113-124 (Luna Series)

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SiuiS
2012-02-17, 07:05 PM
I laugh so hard every time anon makes it into the media. They love showing groups of shady hackers in their Guy Fawkes masks, like we're some shadowy collective of anarchists set on bringing down the government. The reality is that most people are there to say swears, troll folks and talk about Adventure Time.

Admittedly, Adventure time is awesome. I would talk about it, Guy Fawlkes mask or no.

Guy Fawlkes... Mask... Hmmmmm...



I'll cheerfully confirm it. There was nowhere to go from there but up.


Stupidly obvious, now that you say it...
My mind boggles.



Honestly, every time someone pays for their pizza over the phone, the ONLY THING stopping me stealing that information and hitting the town using your card is that I've got a firm moral compass.

One of the only reasons. The other, predominantly, being coworkers with a good moral compass. I had to set a bloke back on the straight an' narrow at one point.

But yes. The number of people who, say, don't want to pay at the pump for gas (the machines can capture your personal information!) but are willing to hand me their credit card and then go to the bathroom without retrieving the card is staggering.


About thread name idea someone submitted and I loved - this should say it all:

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/75a26e15663382ac0cd35bd057c093a7/11317%20-%20fluttershy%20monty_python%20pinkie_pie%20rainbo w_dash.jpg

(yeah, managed to find one pic after all. Go me!)

I only wonder, should it be "No one expects Sponish Inquisition!" or replace inquisition with Pinquisition? ^^"

Or was there a better idea I missed?

I have to object. This would be, from memory, the fifth or sixth time that despite an in-thread 'election', we get a thread title someone brought up to you in private that was never discussed. These titles would be fine for the private correspondence they come up in, but it's kind of rude to name the thread something you prefer after the rest of the thread goes through the trouble of picking what it wants the next iteration to be, fairly and publicly.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-17, 07:07 PM
From Old Thread


Fair point about ponychan and ponibooru, I suppose. Though EqD does have the advantage that it's rather limited what a random visitor/user can post there. As a commenter there you're limited to plain text and links. Sure, blogger could have bugs that might be exploitable, but any site might have bugs and all other things being equal the limitations of comments on EqD does make things harder. Specifically no image posting, unless you trick Seth into posting it for you on the front page I suppose, but even that would have certain limitations (on a board like this one which allows posting images from arbitrary addresses I can easily snoop IPs from people by simply posting a well crafted image (I never would do such a thing :smallwink:), I doubt I could pull that trick off on EqD). I believe ponibooru has the same limitation, but I have no knowledge of how ponychan works.

Imageboards add all of one thing to the equation from EqD and that is they host images. While I imagine there are potential holes relating to that its not like the pics autoload. I've never in over a decade of active netting heard of picture through the browser as any kind of major vector for malicious code. Downloading one sure, but that's literally the entire net. On an imageboard of substanial population if there an infected pic it will draw an immediate response.

And EqD still requires some form of profile to comment, that gives you a something to backtrack to a person. Its not nessecarily going to get your home computer hacked but depending on how close your names are and how your email is you could get to financials in linked. 4chan has more tripcode users then it once did, but still the vast majority of people quite simply don't leave any information when they post.


What I suspect is that these certain elements of 4chan are rather... impulsive. They wouldn't go after ponychan because that's too planned in a sense; you go after ponychan if you have some actual motivation other than just random lulz. For those random, impulsive things 4chan is probably more likely to be a target.


You can't do serious hacking without planning because you need tools and information on your target. That whimsy and impulsiveness results in trolling and memes using just the site tools. Your typical /b/tard raider is using is a proxy to hide their IP so they don't get caught and that's the extent of their skills. And the raid consists of trolling and flaming, not say going after financial information.


In fact, I pity whoever tried to hack the 4chan site itself. It would go...badly...for that person.

Its like robbing a bar you are a regular at.


I don't thin "Anonymous" is even a group in the same way it is reported.
News outlets present anonymous like they are a group who all qualified for and signed up for some club. That's just not how it works.

While there is a certain evolution present yeah Anon is a meme and/or sub-culture. When people use "group" or the like to describe it they keep using a word that does not mean what they think it means.

Its the first large scale Stand Alone Complex really, countless imitators without an original. Our everyday lexicon is insufficient to quite describe Anon, Anon is better to be grokked then studied. I'm SUCH a nerd here.


edit- It's come to my attention that "Sweetie-bot" is more popular than her being a dictionary. I find that rather amusing, and my favorite line regarding this is:

"Aren't you worried the fashion police will come and beat you with their fabulous batons?"

Excellent now if we can just kill those chicken jokes I will consider the CMCs completely rehabilitated from annoying kids. And SweetieBot melts my heart though I will still claim I don't quite like FiW.

Tiki Snakes
2012-02-17, 07:09 PM
In which case also from old thread;


Its like robbing a bar you are a regular at.

The phrasing I've heard is different. To paraphrase, it is like "Urinating in an ocean of Urine". Technically a comment on trolling /b/, I think, but close enough?



Its the first large scale Stand Alone Complex really, countless imitators without an original. Our everyday lexicon is insufficient to quite describe Anon, Anon is better to be grokked then studied. I'm SUCH a nerd here.

Funny thing is, I watched GitS Stand alone complex just last year, and remember thinking that it was really kind of awesome but not being entirely convinced that there was such a thing as a Stand Alone Complex or that it's legitimately very possible. And then, yeah, you look at the Anonymous thing and then what I thought was, I'd pretend I was one of them deaf-mutes.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs9/i/2006/010/1/6/deaf_mute_by_goaferboy.jpg
Also,
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/272/f/c/the_laughing_pony_by_trustedsource-d4bb1yi.gif This is a thing. A bit over-designed perhaps, though.
Bonus Edit -
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/9fc42a460aa595ba13fdecc4725474c6/90618%20-%20animated%20ghost_in_the_shell%20laughing_man%20 parody%20pinkie_pie.gif
Now with 20% extra fast spinning text. Also totally spinning backwards.
(I thought what I'd do was, I'd party hard like I was one of those ponies)

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-17, 07:18 PM
The best part Tiki is that show is first began its run in 2002 and its only gotten more prophetic since.

MCerberus
2012-02-17, 07:23 PM
I'll see your mustaches and raise you BEARDS
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8JHn4w1cIpk/TYRj_08h-tI/AAAAAAAACaI/BjY1buqHO-M/s1600/1300512761109.png

And here I thought it would be Rarity getting highlights for their beard.

Diego Havoc
2012-02-17, 07:24 PM
So, maybe we'll have a little contest to make OPic fitting this theme? Tried as I did, only found one mediocre pic :<

YOU DIDN'T TRY HARD ENOUGH!

I did this back in October. ¬_¬http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/f0854d3982bb3a65dfdb17106f9d5819/78539%20-%20artist%3Adiego_havoc%20Carrot_Top%20derpy_hoove s%20Golden_Harvest%20monty_python%20parody%20spani sh_inqusition%20twilight_sparkle.jpg

maximus25
2012-02-17, 07:31 PM
That new thread smell.

PhantomFox
2012-02-17, 07:38 PM
Here's a question I have been pondering. Yes, we all know the Tubs Of Jelly joke was pretty funny. But how did such a joke come to be in the first place? Was it that they couldn't think up a good rhyme for 'smelly' and came about 'tubs of jelly' in a bout of silliness? Or did they have this 'creepy guy' joke from the outset and found a way to work it in?

Thanqol
2012-02-17, 07:40 PM
Here's a question I have been pondering. Yes, we all know the Tubs Of Jelly joke was pretty funny. But how did such a joke come to be in the first place? Was it that they couldn't think up a good rhyme for 'smelly' and came about 'tubs of jelly' in a bout of silliness? Or did they have this 'creepy guy' joke from the outset and found a way to work it in?

I'll just look into my MAGICAL CARD DECK OF AUTHORIAL INTENT.

3 of Hearts: Parasprite. Ergo they were trolling us bronies.

MCerberus
2012-02-17, 07:43 PM
I'll just look into my MAGICAL CARD DECK OF AUTHORIAL INTENT.

3 of Hearts: Parasprite. Ergo they were trolling us bronies.

I'll work on confirming this with a magic seeing stone someone decided to name 'trollestia's fang'
...
...
...
Alright, I've got nothing, but this useless artifact keeps asking me if I like banana jam.

Anarion
2012-02-17, 08:03 PM
Yay! i was around for the opening of a new thread! =D
Quick i need something witty to post!
.....
uhhhh....


OUR FRIENDSHIP IS THE FRIENDSHIP THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!

JUST WHO THE http://i.imgur.com/aRDpW.png DO YOU THINK WE ARE! It's just so irresistable, especially on first page of a new ponythread



Funny thing is, I watched GitS Stand alone complex just last year, and remember thinking that it was really kind of awesome but not being entirely convinced that there was such a thing as a Stand Alone Complex or that it's legitimately very possible. And then, yeah, you look at the Anonymous thing and then what I thought was, I'd pretend I was one of them deaf-mutes.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs9/i/2006/010/1/6/deaf_mute_by_goaferboy.jpg
Also,
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/272/f/c/the_laughing_pony_by_trustedsource-d4bb1yi.gif This is a thing. A bit over-designed perhaps, though.
Bonus Edit -
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/9fc42a460aa595ba13fdecc4725474c6/90618%20-%20animated%20ghost_in_the_shell%20laughing_man%20 parody%20pinkie_pie.gif
Now with 20% extra fast spinning text. Also totally spinning backwards.
(I thought what I'd do was, I'd party hard like I was one of those ponies)

You too? I just finished it watching it last fall. Such a good show. And their psychological analysis was really good.


I'll just look into my MAGICAL CARD DECK OF AUTHORIAL INTENT.

3 of Hearts: Parasprite. Ergo they were trolling us bronies.

Where do you get one of those?!? *sigh* and all I have is this deck of many things. *draws* ...Star. Sweet +2 int for me. *draws again* ...Moon. And 1d4 says I get 4 wishes. *stops drawing*
(Yes, I actually fully randomized that. Probably killed my actual campaign luck for the next year.)

Any wish suggestions?

Thanqol
2012-02-17, 08:07 PM
Where do you get one of those?!? *sigh* and all I have is this deck of many things. *draws* ...Star. Sweet +2 int for me. *draws again* ...Moon. And 1d4 says I get 4 wishes. *stops drawing*
(Yes, I actually fully randomized that. Probably killed my actual campaign luck for the next year.)

Any wish suggestions?

BlasTech got them for me! He's awesome.

And for wishes, I suggest "I wish for no ironic punishments" for the first wish. For the second, "All of the shipping."

Geno9999
2012-02-17, 08:10 PM
I read the title as "Nopony expects Spoonish inquisition!"
To be fair, if spoons did start an inquisition, I wouldn't have expected it at all.

MCerberus
2012-02-17, 08:16 PM
BlasTech got them for me! He's awesome.

And for wishes, I suggest "I wish for no ironic punishments" for the first wish. For the second, "All of the shipping."

The first wish nets you nothing, but then wears off.
Then you get a supertanker to the head.

Excession
2012-02-17, 08:21 PM
So how many of you have spent time pining over those cute custom plushy ponies that keep selling for silly amounts of money? Pine no more pony-thread, because valleyviolet (http://valleyviolet.deviantart.com/) over on DeviantArt is now selling a pony pattern (http://www.etsy.com/shop/valleyviolet) so you can make one for yourself.

Good thing I vaguely remember how to sew.

Weimann
2012-02-17, 08:26 PM
I'll just look into my MAGICAL CARD DECK OF AUTHORIAL INTENT.

3 of Hearts: Parasprite. Ergo they were trolling us bronies.Yeah, it felt very much like a joke aimed to us in a song that was already pretty damn silly with its rhymes.

It was pretty funny there, but I hope it won't be a regular thing.

Pokonic
2012-02-17, 08:36 PM
Yeah, it felt very much like a joke aimed to us in a song that was already pretty damn silly with its rhymes.

It was pretty funny there, but I hope it won't be a regular thing.

This, along with the whole "death" thing makes the song even better. :smalltongue:

Anarion
2012-02-17, 08:49 PM
Yeah, it felt very much like a joke aimed to us in a song that was already pretty damn silly with its rhymes.

It was pretty funny there, but I hope it won't be a regular thing.

My guess is that they started with "what rhymes with smelly" and somebody thought of jelly and just decided to progress straight to god tier troll.

First wish (this may or may not be the pattern of a deranged mind).
I wish to see the results of Lixie casting a shipping spell on Bleakbane.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-17, 09:44 PM
YOU DIDN'T TRY HARD ENOUGH!

I did this back in October. ¬_¬http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/f0854d3982bb3a65dfdb17106f9d5819/78539%20-%20artist%3Adiego_havoc%20Carrot_Top%20derpy_hoove s%20Golden_Harvest%20monty_python%20parody%20spani sh_inqusition%20twilight_sparkle.jpg

But won't only Lyra have the comfy chair?

Lix Lorn
2012-02-17, 10:41 PM
First wish (this may or may not be the pattern of a deranged mind).
I wish to see the results of Lixie casting a shipping spell on Bleakbane.
None of the ethical ones work. xD

Litewarior
2012-02-17, 10:43 PM
Ethics? Bah, what are those in the face of SHIPPING!?

Raz_Fox
2012-02-17, 10:59 PM
None of the ethical ones work. xD

Clearly, you must then use all the ethical ones blended together.

It has to work.

Pokonic
2012-02-17, 11:15 PM
But won't only Lyra have the comfy chair?

Nah, they tried to get Lyra off the chair, but she liked it so much that she took it.

Lix Lorn
2012-02-17, 11:18 PM
Ethics? Bah, what are those in the face of SHIPPING!?
The last thing keeping me on this end of the alignment scale. :smalltongue:


Clearly, you must then use all the ethical ones blended together.

It has to work.
SOUNDS LEGIT
OH BLEAKBAAAAANE

Pendulous
2012-02-17, 11:31 PM
New thread name confuses me (I know the line, but don't get the pony transfer)

Anyway, pre-ordered My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic: The Friendship Express. Episode list could be better, but it has my favorite, The Last Roundup. I can't for the life of me find out where I saw it listed, but the extras seemed good enough to blows $10 on it.

Bayonet Priest
2012-02-17, 11:48 PM
Yay! New thread!

*leaps on ponythread and gives it a slightly inebriated hug*

erikun
2012-02-17, 11:59 PM
I read the title as "Nopony expects Spoonish inquisition!"
To be fair, if spoons did start an inquisition, I wouldn't have expected it at all.
Funny, I read the same thing... or rather, wondered why "Spoonish" was misspelled. :smalltongue:

Clearly, this calls for a Silver Spoon image dump.
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/032/7/2/classy_cutlery_pone_by_reuniclus-d4ociy0.png (http://reuniclus.deviantart.com/art/classy-cutlery-pone-282759912)

http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/026/c/5/silver_spoon_by_angelickitty89-d4nope8.jpg (http://angelickitty89.deviantart.com/art/Silver-Spoon-281648528)

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/143/b/a/silver_spoon_vs_the_cereal_by_johnjoseco-d3h1a10.jpg (http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/art/Silver-Spoon-vs-The-Cereal-210011652)

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/260/1/3/silver_spoon___custom_mlp_by_nodivision-d4a4sfn.jpg (http://nodivision.deviantart.com/art/Silver-Spoon-Custom-MLP-258884339)

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/352/6/1/silver_spoon_by_furrydinner-d4jj009.png (http://furrydinner.deviantart.com/art/Silver-Spoon-274663881)

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/66589962ce48236b3ad22f6cd3fc6940/92869 (http://askmlcblobs.tumblr.com/post/13666175013/diamond-tiara-and-silver-spoon)

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/627e919f783f8a1e706fe67b4845c10f/132011 (http://lovetomorrowlove.tumblr.com/post/17517517203/jan-30-2012-livestream-part-1)

long
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/df39bfd2111671064e4a81217d0b2b4b/102113 (http://sirsteeve.tumblr.com/post/14603295220)

large
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/1506ce7ae8afda99ffaf2cf1ca9c03c2/121637 (http://pudrawsponies.tumblr.com/post/16760723176/yawg07-asked-ooooh-awesome-i-was-just)

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-18, 12:47 AM
I find it interesting that the old thread was locked after we abandoned it like normal.

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 12:56 AM
Holy cow, only 98 pages left to the 40th Thread! We'll need a Pony-Versary, and we'll need cupcakes, and we'll need some sort of crazy Grand Galloping Galla of some sort!


I find it interesting that the old thread was locked after we abandoned it like normal.

Eh, it lets Mark stretch his modding biceps. He likes to do it, and it hath done no harm.

MCerberus
2012-02-18, 01:14 AM
Holy cow, only 98 pages left to the 40th Thread! We'll need a Pony-Versary, and we'll need cupcakes, and we'll need some sort of crazy Grand Galloping Galla of some sort!


Did somepony say party?http://i.imgur.com/w3dl4.png

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 01:19 AM
Holy cow, only 98 pages left to the 40th Thread! We'll need a Pony-Versary, and we'll need cupcakes, and we'll need some sort of crazy Grand Galloping Galla of some sort!


The Glorious Gigantic Galla?

Anarion
2012-02-18, 01:30 AM
So, does anyone find it odd that Bronycon felt the need to do a press release stating, essentially "all the things we said before are still true, probably?"
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/bronycon-press-release.html

PhoeKun
2012-02-18, 01:35 AM
So, does anyone find it odd that Bronycon felt the need to do a press release stating, essentially "all the things we said before are still true, probably?"
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/bronycon-press-release.html

I have been trying to hint at this for a while now...

thubby
2012-02-18, 01:48 AM
wow this thread moves fast.

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 01:50 AM
So, does anyone find it odd that Bronycon felt the need to do a press release stating, essentially "all the things we said before are still true, probably?"
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/bronycon-press-release.html

I don't find it very odd. Hasbro had released a big statement about trying to set up an official policy about letting the voice actors go and do these things and Bronycon just wanted to confirm that this hasn't affected anything.

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 02:00 AM
The Glorious Gigantic Galla?

NOT GLORIOUS ENOUGH!

IT NEEDS MORE PINK!

GLORIOUS GIGANTIC GALLA!

Can I be the thread OP for Thread 40, to make sure that comes out right?

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 02:20 AM
Can I be the thread OP for Thread 40, to make sure that comes out right?

Hahahahaha. You know what happened last time there was a different OP for this thread, right?

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 02:24 AM
Hahahahaha. You know what happened last time there was a different OP for this thread, right?

I believe this below is what occurred.


No one! :smallyuk:

OP to be placed here later, too tired now...

So, maybe we'll have a little contest to make OPic fitting this theme? Tried as I did, only found one mediocre pic :<

Starscream
2012-02-18, 03:07 AM
I read the title as "Nopony expects Spoonish inquisition!"
To be fair, if spoons did start an inquisition, I wouldn't have expected it at all.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/132/2/5/my_little_spoony_by_waitingforcoffee-d3g680q.png

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 03:17 AM
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/132/2/5/my_little_spoony_by_waitingforcoffee-d3g680q.png

Don't be pushin' his buttons, yo.

Thanqol
2012-02-18, 03:32 AM
I sent the Operation: Indiscriminate Friendship email! Because you guys are legit, here's the text preview:

<Cover image: http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/545/130044970520.png >

Hi, I'm Thanqol. I like ponies.

As some of you may know, March 1st is Derpy Day, the greatest holiday of all time. Derpy Day has the following rules:

- You must eat a muffin.
- You must take a picture of yourself walleyed.
- You must write someone a letter.


I, however, want to give something more back to this wonderful, messed-up world and all it's folks. You know the saying that there's no such thing as a free lunch? Screw that.

The world should totally be a place where you get a free lunch. The world should totally be a place where awesome things happen to you for no reason. And if the world isn't like that already, I'm going to do what I can to make it like that. That's why I'm running Operation: Indiscriminate Friendship.

THE RULES:

- I must distribute 50+ muffins to random passers by on the street.
- I must convince as many random strangers as possible to sing Pinkie Pie's "Singing Telegram" for the camera, which will be compiled into a video which will be uploaded to Youtube
- I must collect as many nice, hopeful and inspirational letters from people from the internet as possible and distribute these to random mailboxes all over town.


To prove I'm not bluffing, here's the link to last year's Derpy Day, where the song of choice was "Evil Enchantress" http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL63DBFF1BFF384B78&feature=mh_lolz


Where you come in:

I want you all to write a letter to a stranger. You'll have no idea who you're writing to because it'll be printed off and dropped into a random mailbox somewhere in Canberra. Maybe it won't get read, but maybe it will, and if it does it might just bring a smile to someone's face.

You can make them as long or as short as you'd like, but try to keep them less than an A4 page each. I'll also be collecting all these letters into a big document to put up for everyone to read at the end of the event.

Send all of these letters to indiscriminatefriendship@mail.com

(Note: Don't send attachments; put the text in the body of the email)

Optional Objectives:

If you feel I'm onto something, here are some things you can do to help make this event a little more indiscriminate.

- I need a poster image. I can design one myself but it'll be mediocre. It needs to promise free muffins in big, eye catching letters and not be too obviously pony related. I'll put any submissions in the compilation post.
- Sing "Singing Telegram" yourself, or convince any friends or passerby to do so on your behalf. If you know anyone with an awesome voice now's the time to call in a favour. I'll add any such videos to the completed Youtube playlist; email the links to the same email address.
- Print off and distribute your own copies of the Letters to a Stranger
- Hold your own parallel Derpy Day where you distribute your own set of free muffins.


Thank you for your time, everypony. Let's make the best pony proud.

Yours truly,

- Thanqol


Disclaimers:
- The pegasus ponies have been bonkers here recently, with summer hail and everything, so the event might be delayed a few days. Depending on volume of responses, I'm hoping to get everything compiled within a week of the event's end.

kpenguin
2012-02-18, 03:46 AM
I have to object. This would be, from memory, the fifth or sixth time that despite an in-thread 'election', we get a thread title someone brought up to you in private that was never discussed. These titles would be fine for the private correspondence they come up in, but it's kind of rude to name the thread something you prefer after the rest of the thread goes through the trouble of picking what it wants the next iteration to be, fairly and publicly.[/color]

I have to concur here. The first priority should be what the thread, as a whole, picks. If our anonymous threadname contributor would like to name a thread, they should present it before the thread. and they definitely should not have their names have priority over others.

SiuiS
2012-02-18, 03:46 AM
I find it interesting that the old thread was locked after we abandoned it like normal.

Ah, nuts.


Holy cow, only 98 pages left to the 40th Thread! We'll need a Pony-Versary, and we'll need cupcakes, and we'll need some sort of crazy Grand Galloping Galla of some sort!

Hm. Sounds like a plan!
And when/if we finally overtake and surpass the Deegan Threads, we should name it "Our Rein Shall Last Forever!"


Eh, it lets Mark stretch his modding biceps. He likes to do it, and it hath done no harm.

Aye. It adds like, maybe fifteen seconds to Nypony dedicated to quoting said thread (ie me). We can make due.


I have been trying to hint at this for a while now...

and we appreciate it, thank you. ^^


NOT GLORIOUS ENOUGH!

IT NEEDS MORE PINK!

GLORIOUS GIGANTIC GALLA!

Can I be the thread OP for Thread 40, to make sure that comes out right?

Hahahahaha. You know what happened last time there was a different OP for this thread, right?

the last time that happened, there was a good 25 pages of passive aggressive (and some aggressive) infighting and bullying, eventually leading two ponies to leave (only one of which returned), and two thread XXs under the fabrication of one being an errata or addendum of the other. The repercussions are still felt in small ways.

That being said, as you're asking politely beforehand and citing the reason why, I'm pretty sure there won't be any fuss.

So. Gonna read this here BronyCon thing, then get back to thread-a-majigging.


As some of you may know, March 1st is Derpy Day, the greatest holiday of all time. Derpy Day has the following rules:

- You must eat a muffin.
- You must take a picture of yourself walleyed.
- You must write someone a letter.


I, however, want to give something more back to this wonderful, messed-up world and all it's folks. You know the saying that there's no such thing as a free lunch? Screw that.

The world should totally be a place where you get a free lunch. The world should totally be a place where awesome things happen to you for no reason. And if the world isn't like that already, I'm going to do what I can to make it like that. That's why I'm running Operation: Indiscriminate Friendship.

Stars and Fire but that is inspirational.

Grif
2012-02-18, 03:48 AM
I have to object. This would be, from memory, the fifth or sixth time that despite an in-thread 'election', we get a thread title someone brought up to you in private that was never discussed. These titles would be fine for the private correspondence they come up in, but it's kind of rude to name the thread something you prefer after the rest of the thread goes through the trouble of picking what it wants the next iteration to be, fairly and publicly.

Pretty much what our modguin said.

Just posting to here for the record.

Aotrs Commander
2012-02-18, 04:50 AM
First wish (this may or may not be the pattern of a deranged mind).
I wish to see the results of Lixie casting a shipping spell on Bleakbane.


Ethics? Bah, what are those in the face of SHIPPING!?


Clearly, you must then use all the ethical ones blended together.

It has to work.

First of all, as I believe I may have occasionally mentioned, IMMUNE. TO. MIND.-AFFECTING. EFFECTS.

Second of all, it's so very noble of you all to volenteer to undergo the mind-splintering, soul-shattering and really quite excruciating agony of being the test victims of my new Mass Violently Explosive Intestinal Dispersion spell.

Rebelhero
2012-02-18, 05:09 AM
First of all, as I believe I may have occasionally mentioned, IMMUNE. TO. MIND.-AFFECTING. EFFECTS.

Second of all, it's so very noble of you all to volenteer to undergo the mind-splintering, soul-shattering and really quite excruciating agony of being the test victims of my new Mass Violently Explosive Intestinal Dispersion spell.

But what if Lixie is immune to your immunity?
Unstoppable force meets immovable object...

SiuiS
2012-02-18, 05:19 AM
But what if Lixie is immune to your immunity?
Unstoppable force meets immovable object...

Related, one could note that using wish or limited wish to replicate Enchantment spells bypasses standard immunity by removing the [mind-affecting] tag from the spell in question.

Or to uncouch the relevant terms; when one is hacking the universe, one does not expect things to go as smoothly as "effect failed due to unspecified host address".

Of course, the sheer magnitude of sub an undertaking is more likely to covertly slip the caster into an artificial reality built on faulty premises which allow for the end result, rater than rewrite reality to one's whims.

Magic is as magic does. Just funny that way.

Aotrs Commander
2012-02-18, 05:20 AM
But what if Lixie is immune to your immunity?
Unstoppable force meets immovable object...

I have a psychotic Pikachu and Lixie is not immune to lightning.



And I remind you how quite remarkably petty and vindictive I am, so that even if the impossible happens I will make quite certain that I take everyone else down with me, in as excessively violent way as I can think of; and I am very creative in that regard...

Thanqol
2012-02-18, 05:23 AM
I have a psychotic Pikachu and Lixie is not immune to lightning.



And I remind you how quite remarkably petty and vindictive I am, so that even if the impossible happens I will make quite certain that I take everyone else down with me, in as excessively violent way as I can think of; and I am very creative in that regard...

Awwwww lookit the little chibi-lich and his widdle death thweats, awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

(The answer to unstoppable force meets immovable object is the unstoppable force bounces off and keeps going; both conditions remain true)

SiuiS
2012-02-18, 06:18 AM
I have a psychotic Pikachu and Lixie is not immune to lightning.

Hm.

I say we cross the streams. Ship Lixie and the Pikachu.
Lix gets shipping, and electrocuted! Everypony wins! Even Lix, because shipping (and who knows how far a Pikachu will go... For love?)

Also Thanqol you answered a rhetorical question those are designed to make you think not to be answered do not do that thanqol

Shadow of the Sun
2012-02-18, 06:18 AM
Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

SiuiS
2012-02-18, 06:32 AM
Oh, yikes.

I know how that feels, mate. If you see this... I'm sorry.


It does get better.

Shadow of the Sun
2012-02-18, 06:48 AM
I'd also like to send my condolences as well- while I was the messenger, I don't think I expressed just how much I feel for you in my first post.

RoninHiroX: you really are in our hearts. You really are.

Gamerlord
2012-02-18, 06:55 AM
New Episode Synopsis:
Episode: Dragon Quest
Air Date: March 17, 2012)
Synopsis: Spike joins the Great Dragon Migration to discover his true identity, but it might not be what he really needs.
EDIT: @RoninHiroX: I am so,so,sorry for your loss. :smallfrown:

Trixie
2012-02-18, 07:32 AM
RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

I'm so sorry, Ronin/D. :smallfrown:

Thanqol
2012-02-18, 07:40 AM
Also Thanqol you answered a rhetorical question those are designed to make you think not to be answered do not do that thanqol

There are better questions to be asked.

Like "Why do you value thinking?"




Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

Would that sorry be enough. It's not, but it's all I have.

HalfTangible
2012-02-18, 08:27 AM
The last thing keeping me on this end of the alignment scale. :smalltongue:


SOUNDS LEGIT
OH BLEAKBAAAAANE

The alignment scale makes no sense anyway.

Deadly
2012-02-18, 09:16 AM
RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

I wish I had words for this. I'm so sorry to hear that.

otakuryoga
2012-02-18, 09:34 AM
something to keep you all laughing until the new episode

http://youtu.be/vHoRKRiPn1Q

http://youtu.be/VG90sNcVMqk

Tiki Snakes
2012-02-18, 10:09 AM
Not that I would encourage any such thing, (At least until the electrically insulated mousetraps are set up), but clearly there's an obvious solution to the shipping subject.

You don't cast shipping spells on the Lich, because he is immune and vengeful.
You cast shipping spells on lots of other people concerning the lich and then retreat to a safe place.
Warning:May lead to electrocution, Death, Undeath, Burning, Spliffication and deep-space-defenestration. Side-effects include property-damage, threats to family and the unfortunate demise of any third parties targeted by shipping spells of which Bleakbane is the intended indirect target. Results are not guarenteed, please check with your Doctor and Priest or other Divine Representitive of the Afterlife of your choice before using.
Besides, LixieLich OTP, obviously.

Wait, it's Saturday. Are we due an episode?

Thanqol
2012-02-18, 10:22 AM
> Getting to sleep
> "Oh, that fanfic contest closes in 24 hours. Guess I'm not going to make that deadline."
> "... Thanqol, you don't have to win everything. Let it go. Sometimes the Internet wins."
> "LIKE HELL THE INTERNET WINS, I'MA PROVE I CAN FINISH THIS DARN THING RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME"

And then I stayed up until 2am to finish this darn thing. I think it's rubbish, personally, and I've got less than 24 hours to go through edit and revision before I submit it. A week is way too short for my process to fully unpack. But I'ma submit it anyway 'cause I hold a low opinion of what anypony else in this fandom would be able to accomplish in that timeframe.

Any edits or tweaks would be appreciated, and the sooner the better, but I've got a pretty busy day ahead so broad rewrites are out of the question. Also, a title suggestion would be great.


“I’m sorry, ma’am, I really am. I just don’t know what went wrong.

Because four months ago life seemed good, yes? Sun shined, moon shined back, and mail was to be delivered. And I was the best at delivering the mail, oh you bet your horseshoes, ma’am. The very best.

I was a mailmare in those days, see. Wasn’t exactly my talent but it was absolutely my passion. But the Equestrian Postal Service wasn’t in the best of times, ma’am, and things needed to go smoother than an oiled alligator across a melting glacier. And as much as I’ve tried, ma’am, passion don’t really smooth things no matter how much you apply. Mistakes were made. Anvils were creatively relocated. A rogue storm cloud by the name of Kaiser was rather misleading about the side effects of playtime. There was a fall, and an exile, and a lesson about friendship. But there was heat and somepony had to take the heat, ma’am.

They took my hat and took my mailbag and threw me out. Wasn’t them being cruel, neither. They had a three-strikes policy that they occasionally stretched into an eighty-seven strikes policy, but there were limits, ma’am. Limits to everything.

But that’s all excuses, ma’am. I’ve got more excuses where that came from. I’ve got the excuse that I was hungry. I’ve got the excuse that I was cold. I’ve got the excuse that I’ve got a little filly less than three years old. I’ve got the excuse that I was poor. I’ve got the excuse that I was scared. I’ve got the excuse that in the brain I’m not quite all there.

But all of the excuses aren’t quite the truth. The truth is that when Mr. Filthy Rich came wandering by and asked what was wrong, he listened to me, ma’am. And I was in a state where I needed somepony to listen to me more than anything, and listen to all my excuses, and to give me hope. Didn’t matter what he would have told me in that moment, I’d have believed it if it was something to believe in.

And Mr. Filthy Rich didn’t come across as a bad pony. He was a little rich, yes, a little filthy, sure, but he seemed nice enough. He had a charming grin, ma’am, so charming that I’d believe it if his special talent was said to be smiling. And he had pictures of his daughter, and I didn’t think anypony who’s daughter looked that sweet could be all bad.

So I asked him, “Mr. Filthiest, sir,” and he gave me a bit of a glare so I hurried right on, “What business does a business pony have with an out-of-work mailmare?”

And Mr. Rich said to me, “Zap apples, my dear! They grow wild in the Everfree, don’t you see? And while I have to pay Apples for apples, these apples are free! I’ll need a partner for this business adventure, and you’re a perfect fit (and expendible, I’d wager).”

He was offering employment, and employment I lacked, but that comes back to the excuses from before. The truth of the matter, ma’am, is really that I’m not a very clever pony, and I thought Mr. Rich was a really nice pony with a really nice smile. He’d talked to me when I was down and needed a friend and I wanted to help him see his plan to the end. I did it for a smile, ma’am. No lies needed.

We set out immediately towards the Everfree, to see if it was as Mr. Rich had heard. I was kind of nervous because Mr. Rich had told me to look out for monsters, but my eye kept slipping, ma’am. I tried to tell Mr. Rich but I couldn’t quite figure out the words to say that I was occasionally a bit, well, derpy. So I just kept turning around to stare at him, well, sort of, in the hopes he’d realise it was a serious medical condition that might impede my duties as Adventuring Assistant and, most importantly, that it wasn’t my fault. I think he just found it creepy.

But we were lucky and we didn’t run into any monsters. We didn’t walk into any neither, ma’am. We just meandered into the Zap Apple grove in the middle of the woodland without right nothing stopping us. And it was just like Mr. Rich had said – Zap Apples everywhere, without them being even in season!

“Ha!” said Mr. Rich, “The legends were true! The Zap Apples here are always in bloom! No more waiting! No more seasons! No more omens and signals and nonsensical reasons! No more farmers! No more ploughs! Tell me Apples, see these apples, how do you like dem apples now?”

The harvest is ours, Derpy, the harvest is here, and it’s ours for the taking so show no fear!”

And he picked up the axe he’d tied into his tie, and he chopped a tree down just like that. He gathered the apples and threw them into a bag, but by the time he was done the bag was full. He stared at the bag and then he stared at the trees, like he was trying to figure how he could fit the entire forest into his saddlebags.

And it was at that moment when somepony started shouting at us, and it was at about that moment that I momentarily forgot how to be a brave pony and accidentally hid behind a rock. And then a terrible mare emerged from the forest. She was striped like some terrible fae, and she was eating her hay in the evilest way.

“I am Zecora,” said she, “and I speak for the trees! What pony are you who chops down these trees just as you please?”

And Filthy said, “Why the devil are you speaking in rhyme? Speak normal for once and stop wasting my time!”

“If your time is so precious,” quoth Zecora, “that is because it is short! Away you should flee, or by Timber Wolves be caught!”

And it was a terrible sight, a wretched sight, a sight so scary I was glad I only really saw it with one eye. It was like the trees came alive, branch into fang and root into claw. I saw them start towards us, and that was all that I saw.

Mr. Rich started running, and I thought that there was something to that. So I bolted along with him, ma’am, and ran as fast as my hooves could carry me, for as long as my lungs would allow me. I’m not normally one for running, ma’am, but when the trees come at you with fangs and claws I’m one to make an exception.

I swear, ma’am, I felt teeth in my tail and claws on my legs, but I ran like a mailmare. We emerged from the woods and it was like the trees behind us were howling for our blood. Checking my tail, it was full of twigs and rocks and Mr. Rich’s good suit was tattered and torn. He had a look on his face, ma’am, a look like nothing I’d imagined of him. Fury and rage were his as he yelled at the trees.

“Just you wait! Just you see! This wretched forest will soon belong to me!”

A little scary to see, a pony yelling at trees. But even though I usually only recall three of six Elements at a time I was remembering loyalty then and it was loyalty that kept me from running home. It was laughter that I was forgetting, though, so when I turned to look behind me I screamed quite a bit. It took poor Mr. Flim and Mr. Flam ten minutes to calm me down, by which time their dramatic entrance wasn’t quite as dramatic.

They weren’t ponies to give up just because one of their audience had spent ten minutes screaming and flailing, and they were back into the swing of things right quick. Mr. Flim put on his grin and Mr. Flam put on his hat and together they put on a show.

“I’m Film, he’s Flam, we’re two of a kind, with gagets and gizmoes and genius of mind. We provide solutions, and you’re in a jam. Tell me, do we have an answer to this pony’s problem, Flam?”

“I’ll tell you what we do have, Flim, solutions for ghosts, goblins and ghouls. But I’ll tell you once and tell you right, I think our problem here is wolves.”

“Wolves! Oh gracious oh my! How will you cope?” cried Flim

“Don’t fear, my good pony, and don’t ever lose hope!” said Flam.

“For this problem, and more, by the Princess we were tasked,”

“And being the Brothers Flim Flam we responded too fast!”

“And we built the Three-Tracked Tree-Trembler Timber-Tumbler!”

“With the top-of the line Massive and Minor Monster Humbler!”

And now we arrive at what had me screaming so much. I’d seen the Flim Flam Brothers when they’d rode their Cider Machine into town, but that had been nothing compared to what they were currently selling. It towered above the tallest trees, a huge monolith of metal with three sharp axes swinging to and fro in a dizzying way. It was filled with jaws and claws and gnashing teeth and emitted a most dreadful smoke. It could eat a tall tree in a single bite, and I could scarcely imagine what it’d do to a pony.

“Perhaps a demonstration is called for?” Asked Flim with a spangly smile.

“Order early and often, we can always build more!” Said Flam with a star-studded grin.

And the Three-Tracked Tree-Trembler Timber-Tumbler rumbled forwards and the three axes thwacked out – thwacked three times, and three times a crash. Three trees fell and three trees were snatched up. They were sucked through the jaws and the gnashers and the stompers and the burners and out was collected a small pile of apples and a great heap of ash.

“I’ll take one! I’ll take four!” cried Filthy, eyes lighting up like he had back at the Zap Apple Grove.

“Good pony; in this business, you want in on the ground floor.” Said Flim.

And that was how I found myself piloting a four-storey doom robot chopping down the Everfree. It wasn’t how I’d expected the day to go when I woke up that morning, but I wasn’t able to quite put my hoof on what went wrong. None of my decisions seemed outright wrong in retrospect. Just a lot of little wrongs, and I guess that adds up.

There was about one Zap Apple tree to five normal trees, so we cut our way through the forest. The machines chewed up the wood, spared the apples, and left the ash. By the end of the day we’d filled our tanks. It was then that the Brothers Flim Flam told us they’d got a magical Jelly-Jam Power-Presser that they were willing to rent us so we could make Zap Apple Jam.

Afterwards, Mr. Rich counted his profits, and he bought me dinner and told me I was a good assistant and a very clever pony after all and, more importantly, I was a good luck charm and we were going to take over Equestria. And I felt good. I’d gone from down to up; and if getting fired always paid this well I was going to start helping my friends get fired too.

But the next day, when we got up in the morning and walked down to our Tree-Tumblers, we heard the sound of tearing trees and branches. There were no less than twelve Three-Tracked Tree-Trembler Timber-Tumblers trundling through the treeline! Mr. Flim grinned and tipped his hat at us as we passed.

“Quickly Derpy! With all haste! The quest for Zap Apples has become a race!” Shouted Mr. Rich and he climbed aloft his Timber-Tumbler and began Thwacking trees as fast as he could. I hurried to do the same. I tumbled trees by their tens. I didn’t want to let down Mr. Rich, ma’am, so I tumbled as fast as I could.

And at the end, our machines trundled back to the forest’s edge and we took our Apples to the Brothers Flim-Flam. But there was a problem –

“Of Jelly-Jam Power-Pressers we only have one,” cried Mr. Flim in what could be called shock.

“And of ponies with Zap Apples we have over a tonne!” Cried Mr. Flam in a reasonable show of horror.

“A conflict approaches, as sure as the tide,” said Mr. Flim, “Suppose we’ll just have to let the market decide!”

And they held an auction, and it ran to the wire. The price charged for the machine was outrageously high. Mr. Rich lost, but the winner lost too – making an eighth of a bit on every jar of jam sold. And we were left with a lot of apples and nowhere to go. Together, Mr. Rich and I walked on down the lines of ashes and ruins. I tried my best to think of something to fix his problem, but he was falling deeper and deeper into anger, ma’am, and I didn’t want to be nearby when he yelled at trees again.

And then a voice; a once fierce voice, like a ghost of a snarl. It was coughy and puffy and not as scary now. It said, “I am Zecora, and I speak for the trees. Why do you use machines such as these?”

“These machines can do what ponies could not,” said Mr. Rich proudly, “Look now – it is your wolves and not I that have been caught!”

“And was it all you wanted, oh pony of greed? Is this what you sought? Is this what you need?”

“No! I’ve been set up! I’ve been scammed! This two-faced betrayal was not what was planned!” cried Mr. Rich.

“And not a thought to the ashes behind you, or the trees that’ll soon be few?”

And Mr. Rich got a grin.

A wicked grin. A vile grin. A diabolical, verminous, lice-in-the-mane grin. A grin so oily it could oil the gears that turned in his head, the gears that ground out the terrible answer to his terrible problem.

“There’s too many Zap Apples on the market,” said Filthy Rich slowly, “For supply and demand to meet... supply has to cark it.”

And Filthy Rich gathered the machine’s fuel supply and together we worked to spread it far and wide. Through the night we drove our Tree-Tumblers through the forest, pouring out oil. Filthy was laughing with every soaked tree. He had madness in his eyes and I knew I should leave. I knew it in my head as well as my heart; if I stayed for much longer I would go much too far.

But I wasn’t a brave pony that particular night. I had excuses a plenty, as you already know. That Mr. Rich would do it anyway, that he’d hur t himself if I wasn’t around, that there was no reason why his plan couldn’t work, no reason why his plan shouldn’t work. But in the end it was friendship, again. I didn’t want to let him down, ma’am, the pony who’d been nice to me, and given me a job and hope and respect. The pony who hadn’t commented on my eye or called me a klutz or a ditz. So I worked for Mr. Rich.

And in the morning he set the forest ablaze.

Monsters fled the fire in all directions. A dragon ran through Ponyville, and a hydra trampled Hoofington. All the locked-up madcreatures were suddenly set free to roam and made free to roam. Could see it from Canterlot, could see it from across Equestria.

And Filthy Rich, covered in smoke and covered in ash, came by the Brothers Flim Flam with his Zap Apple stash.

“Looks like your business just went up in smoke,” said Filthy, “But, tell you what, why don’t we talk about hope?”

There was no regrets in his eyes or in his mind, he made his quick bundle and left Ponyville behind. He gave me a bonus and said his good-byes, and he parted with that gleam still sure in his eyes.

That’s my story, ma’am. That’s how I burned down the Everfree for somepony else’s dream. That’s how I became a rich pony. That’s how I got what I wanted.

But ma’am...

I never forgot it when you said that you spoke for the trees. And I never asked the question of how you speak when there’s no trees left to speak for. I never really thought to realise that to get my wish I’d have to step on the wishes of other ponies. And I never realised how ugly fifty square miles of ash and stumps really are.

Sun don’t shine any more, ma’am. It’s just the smoke here. Moon don’t shine neither, or at least, not that you can see. Just tree stumps and the trash of stepped-upon dreams.

I still don’t know what went wrong, ma’am, but I know for that I didn’t do right. I followed him on because it was the easy way out. The way of not thinking and not deciding.

I could have done better. I could have stood up. I could have done something, but now...

... but now it’s not too late.

Don’t you see, ma’am Zecora? I was about to make the same mistake again! I was going to say that I’d lost and give up! I was going to say that it was too late!

It’s not too late. It’s never too late. It’s always a good time to be a better pony.

I’ve broke a lot of things, and hurt a lot of ponies. But I can make it up.

I’ll make it so that you can come home.

Someday.”

Deadly
2012-02-18, 10:35 AM
New Episode, first thoughts
Nice episode. Pinkie sure can be obnoxious

I loved the callbacks. The baby cakes and Rainbow reading. That was lovely to see, it's so great when they do that.

So many songs in one episode. The fandom will go crazy over that, I'm sure.

Saw the ending from far away, recalling the other donkey shown early on, which was kinda neat in this case.

Now to watch it again. The sound lagged strangely this time, about a second behind the video which was a little annoying.

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-18, 10:36 AM
Not that I would encourage any such thing, (At least until the electrically insulated mousetraps are set up), but clearly there's an obvious solution to the shipping subject.

You don't cast shipping spells on the Lich, because he is immune and vengeful.
You cast shipping spells on lots of other people concerning the lich and then retreat to a safe place.
Warning:May lead to electrocution, Death, Undeath, Burning, Spliffication and deep-space-defenestration. Side-effects include property-damage, threats to family and the unfortunate demise of any third parties targeted by shipping spells of which Bleakbane is the intended indirect target. Results are not guarenteed, please check with your Doctor and Priest or other Divine Representitive of the Afterlife of your choice before using.
Besides, LixieLich OTP, obviously.
Eh, he'll just mass-dispel everything. It needs to hit him. I could "arrange" a neat roundabout way through a multiworld where he isn't immune, but the end result here will be an equivalent of a faint lingering nightmare, as I can't alter actual long-term memories and experiences in any given verse. Still, a half-memory is better than nothing, right?

Anarion
2012-02-18, 10:38 AM
Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

My deepest condolences.



On the new episode
This one might be the Winter-Wrap up of this season. I actually managed to avoid spoiling the song and I must say, it was incredible. The chorus part in particular was spectacular and I loved it.

I'm wondering if this episode was inspired by Pixar's "Up," but even if it wasn't I definitely thought of that movie within a few minutes of meeting Cranky.

Cranky Doodle Donkey plus use and variations on the Yankee Doodle song AND then having Pinkie's success be a huge fireworks show was really well done. Good joke, tight theme, and tied together in both sound and visuals.

I also really liked all of Pinkie's antics in this one, including getting another chase scene and the shift to paper cuts to show Pinkie's thinking followed by her holding her own check mark. Prognosis: the 4th wall may never recover.

Rainbow in the library reading with Twilight. EEEEE! http://i.imgur.com/459jt.png

otakuryoga
2012-02-18, 10:39 AM
new episode 1st thoughts

Physical comedy is TOUGH...gotta stay in shape

twins re-appear...not just a one shot and never seen again (poor pipsqueak)

SONG!!!

judge pony next to the mayor?

lol at the mental checklist

mental checkmark in the real world---Damnit Pinkie! they are called LAWS of physics..not "suggestions" of physics

peace and quiet in Ponyville? the disaster capital of Equestria??

asking the whole town about a toupee? NOT HELPING!!

WHY would Rarity model a toupee off of Blueblood?

You're extra special Yes! I'm in----not exactly...

Rainbow Dash continues reading..didnt quite catch the title on it though

thought at 1st the voice from outside was Mayor Mare...same VA i guess

O BLEEP! Pinkie Pie Happiness explosion imminent...TAKE COVER!

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 10:40 AM
I sent the Operation: Indiscriminate Friendship email! Because you guys are legit, here's the text preview:

<Cover image: http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/545/130044970520.png >

Hi, I'm Thanqol. I like ponies.

As some of you may know, March 1st is Derpy Day, the greatest holiday of all time. Derpy Day has the following rules:

- You must eat a muffin.
- You must take a picture of yourself walleyed.
- You must write someone a letter.


I, however, want to give something more back to this wonderful, messed-up world and all it's folks. You know the saying that there's no such thing as a free lunch? Screw that.

The world should totally be a place where you get a free lunch. The world should totally be a place where awesome things happen to you for no reason. And if the world isn't like that already, I'm going to do what I can to make it like that. That's why I'm running Operation: Indiscriminate Friendship.

THE RULES:

- I must distribute 50+ muffins to random passers by on the street.
- I must convince as many random strangers as possible to sing Pinkie Pie's "Singing Telegram" for the camera, which will be compiled into a video which will be uploaded to Youtube
- I must collect as many nice, hopeful and inspirational letters from people from the internet as possible and distribute these to random mailboxes all over town.


To prove I'm not bluffing, here's the link to last year's Derpy Day, where the song of choice was "Evil Enchantress" http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL63DBFF1BFF384B78&feature=mh_lolz


Where you come in:

I want you all to write a letter to a stranger. You'll have no idea who you're writing to because it'll be printed off and dropped into a random mailbox somewhere in Canberra. Maybe it won't get read, but maybe it will, and if it does it might just bring a smile to someone's face.

You can make them as long or as short as you'd like, but try to keep them less than an A4 page each. I'll also be collecting all these letters into a big document to put up for everyone to read at the end of the event.

Send all of these letters to indiscriminatefriendship@mail.com

(Note: Don't send attachments; put the text in the body of the email)

Optional Objectives:

If you feel I'm onto something, here are some things you can do to help make this event a little more indiscriminate.

- I need a poster image. I can design one myself but it'll be mediocre. It needs to promise free muffins in big, eye catching letters and not be too obviously pony related. I'll put any submissions in the compilation post.
- Sing "Singing Telegram" yourself, or convince any friends or passerby to do so on your behalf. If you know anyone with an awesome voice now's the time to call in a favour. I'll add any such videos to the completed Youtube playlist; email the links to the same email address.
- Print off and distribute your own copies of the Letters to a Stranger
- Hold your own parallel Derpy Day where you distribute your own set of free muffins.


Thank you for your time, everypony. Let's make the best pony proud.

Yours truly,

- Thanqol


Disclaimers:
- The pegasus ponies have been bonkers here recently, with summer hail and everything, so the event might be delayed a few days. Depending on volume of responses, I'm hoping to get everything compiled within a week of the event's end.

Hmmm... I might have to attempt to participate in this. I was planning on giving it a shot, but didn't realize it was coming up so soon. :smalleek:


I have a psychotic Pikachu and Lixie is not immune to lightning.



And I remind you how quite remarkably petty and vindictive I am, so that even if the impossible happens I will make quite certain that I take everyone else down with me, in as excessively violent way as I can think of; and I am very creative in that regard...

Don't worry Lixie, I know how to distract the Pikachu!
*Climbs into an air vent*


Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

Oh ouch. Wow. Sorry that had to happen, I'll be keeping you in my thoughts and hoping for the best. :smallfrown:


> Getting to sleep
> "Oh, that fanfic contest closes in 24 hours. Guess I'm not going to make that deadline."
> "... Thanqol, you don't have to win everything. Let it go. Sometimes the Internet wins."
> "LIKE HELL THE INTERNET WINS, I'MA PROVE I CAN FINISH THIS DARN THING RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME"


Forget you, I can so write all this fic!

No time to read it right now, I'll check it out a little later today.

New Ep
BUT HOW DID SHE GET THE SHORTS ON!

...Is Pinkie Pie channelling Hexadecimal?

http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0912/yip-yip-yip-yip-demotivational-poster-1260414294.jpg

Wow, the baby Cakes AND the cow. And Roseluck? So much background love today! Zecora too!

SONG! PINKIE SONG! SMILE SONG FINALLY!!!

TOTALLY worth not listening to that song sooner.

Wow, that Cranky Doodle's first line is a pretty massive burn.

And now we know what Pinkie's thought patterns look like.

And she broke it again. Love that little break from the normal animations.

Silly Cranky, Pinkie's a pony not a kid.

Dear gods so much singing Pinkie~

Did I just see Derpy in the snow globe? I'm pretty sure that's Derpy in the snow globe.

GAH! Sream crashed! I missed something involving Twilight!

Silly Cranky, nobody escapes Pinkie.

Ponies in beaver costumes next meme? Ponies in beaver costumes next meme.

Y U HATE ME STREAM?

So, overall excellent episode. New contender for second best. And really, look at Pinkie Pie. How is she not best pony? You heard that song! How can you not love a pony that just wants to make everyone happy? Sure she can be a little annoying, but that only happens when you try to avoid letting her do her thing! Also so many Pinkie songs~ I'm saddened though because the stream sort of gave out at the end. At least I know who Cranky's long-lost love is though. (Though really that was kind of predictable)

Tiki Snakes
2012-02-18, 10:49 AM
Eh, he'll just mass-dispel everything. It needs to hit him. I could "arrange" a neat roundabout way through a multiworld where he isn't immune, but the end result here will be an equivalent of a faint lingering nightmare, as I can't alter actual long-term memories and experiences in any given verse. Still, a half-memory is better than nothing, right?

Well, true. But only if the Shipping spells have, like, an ongoing duration/effect. If they are an instantanious thing, then they have already done their work and are not there to be dispelled any longer. Course, that might be splashing a little into the deep end of the alignment pool, so to speak?
I'm no expert, you'd probably have to check with Lixie, they're her spells after all.

vegetalss4
2012-02-18, 10:50 AM
First of and most importantly: sorry for your loss Ronin.


Second: New episode thoughts


People really was neither lying nor wrong when they said that the smile song was really really good, still am glad I chose to wait for it to come instead of seeking it out.

Nice with the continuity bits in the episode: Rainbow reading Daring Do and the baby cakes.

My hypothesis that pinkie has a near perfect memory all but confirmed.

Almost a shame that she ended up being his friend if only because the lesson that not everypony wants to be your friend and that's okay is one that pinkie could stand to learn. Reuniting lost loves was worth it through and she did still learn that someponies would prefer it when she is less hyper.

Her friend making list was funny.

so Cherilee and zecora has their birthday one day after each other and pinkie has hers 75/76 days later than that respectively.
From the background I we know that they thus are born in either spring or summer. I would guess late spring as the earliest due to apples, which might come early due to earth pony magic or might not so no narrowing it further than that.

vegetalss4
2012-02-18, 11:09 AM
new episode 1st thoughts



WHY would Rarity model a toupee off of Blueblood?



Presumably because he has pretty hair.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-18, 11:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ROEne.pngOMGOSH everypony this episode is super super super super everything Me!

Its totally Pinkie!

Deadly
2012-02-18, 11:15 AM
> Getting to sleep
> "Oh, that fanfic contest closes in 24 hours. Guess I'm not going to make that deadline."
> "... Thanqol, you don't have to win everything. Let it go. Sometimes the Internet wins."
> "LIKE HELL THE INTERNET WINS, I'MA PROVE I CAN FINISH THIS DARN THING RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME"

And then I stayed up until 2am to finish this darn thing. I think it's rubbish, personally, and I've got less than 24 hours to go through edit and revision before I submit it. A week is way too short for my process to fully unpack. But I'ma submit it anyway 'cause I hold a low opinion of what anypony else in this fandom would be able to accomplish in that timeframe.

Any edits or tweaks would be appreciated, and the sooner the better, but I've got a pretty busy day ahead so broad rewrites are out of the question. Also, a title suggestion would be great.

[...]

I liked it. For something quickly written it was quite good.

I have only two major concerns.

The pacing seemed quite a bit off when the Flim Flam brothers appeared. It was very sudden, out of nowhere and confusing. Going from being chased by wolves to suddenly there are these two guys who you didn't expect at all, and they have a machine and... what the hay just happened? The pace after that got pretty hectic, which may have been intended, but the point when Flim and Flam appears had me thrown off in particular.

Second, I like the perspective, but it's really hard to imagine this in Derpy's voice. It's too... well-spoken, I suppose. It also, for some reason, reminded me of John Coffey from the Green Mile (the movie, at least, haven't read the novel), or Lennie from Of Mice and Men. Maybe that is why I can't imagine it in Derpy's voice, because that's not quite how I imagine Derpy. Would probably take a lot of time and effort to change this, so I'm just noting it because it was a constant thought while reading that something was off about it.

I loved the constant rhyming, and the fact that Filthy commented at Zecora's rhyming even while doing so himself. That was a nice touch :)

thubby
2012-02-18, 11:16 AM
i was right, this show really is crack. im going out of my mind waiting for it to hit the net.
>.>

otakuryoga
2012-02-18, 11:23 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ROEne.pngOMGOSH everypony this episode is super super super super everything Me!

Its totally Pinkie!
you forgot this....
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/277/e/a/pinkie_pie_approved_by_ambris-d4brtm4.png

Deadly
2012-02-18, 11:24 AM
Second: New episode thoughts

My hypothesis that pinkie has a near perfect memory all but confirmed.

New Episode, speculation!!!
You know, suddenly I think this explains Pinkie Sense!:smalleek:

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense is based on a Sherlock Holmesian level of memory, attention to details and deductive power, only unlike him Pinkie's is subconscious. Everywhere she goes she picks up on everything, every little detail, and her mind just subconsciously chugs away creating connections between it all. And when all these connections lead to some realization, her tail twitches or something else. She can predict the future simply through brain power, and it's a good enough prediction that it's usually true.

Anarion
2012-02-18, 11:26 AM
First of all, as I believe I may have occasionally mentioned, IMMUNE. TO. MIND.-AFFECTING. EFFECTS.

Second of all, it's so very noble of you all to volenteer to undergo the mind-splintering, soul-shattering and really quite excruciating agony of being the test victims of my new Mass Violently Explosive Intestinal Dispersion spell.

While I'm sure the mass violently explosive intestinal dispersion spell sounds like loads of fun, I should point out that my wish doesn't actually require that a spell effects you. I wished to see the results of the spell, not the spell itself. There are other ways to reach that end if reality is warping itself. For example, you could accidentally imitate the results of the spell through a series of seemingly unrelated events. Or, you could go along willingly...


New Episode, speculation!!!
You know, suddenly I think this explains Pinkie Sense!:smalleek:

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense is based on a Sherlock Holmesian level of memory, attention to details and deductive power, only unlike him Pinkie's is subconscious. Everywhere she goes she picks up on everything, every little detail, and her mind just subconsciously chugs away creating connections between it all. And when all these connections lead to some realization, her tail twitches or something else. She can predict the future simply through brain power, and it's a good enough prediction that it's usually true.

Oh, I like that theory. Someone contact Twilight, quickly! She'll want to know so that we can subject it to empirical testing. Get the hidden cameras set up throughout all of Ponyville, that sort of thing.

Deadly
2012-02-18, 11:30 AM
Oh, I like that theory. Someone contact Twilight, quickly! She'll want to know so that we can subject it to empirical testing. Get the hidden cameras set up throughout all of Ponyville, that sort of thing.

On it!

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/327/0/a/stalkerloo_by_raikoh14-d4h2jt1.jpg (http://raikoh14.deviantart.com/art/stalkerloo-270537157)

otakuryoga
2012-02-18, 11:30 AM
While I'm sure the mass violently explosive intestinal dispersion spell sounds like loads of fun, I should point out that my wish doesn't actually require that a spell effects you. I wished to see the results of the spell, not the spell itself. There are other ways to reach that end if reality is warping itself. For example, you could accidentally imitate the results of the spell through a series of seemingly unrelated events. Or, you could go along willingly...




ok..now,see, THAT is wishful thinking horrible pun 100% intended

thubby
2012-02-18, 11:38 AM
On it!

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/327/0/a/stalkerloo_by_raikoh14-d4h2jt1.jpg (http://raikoh14.deviantart.com/art/stalkerloo-270537157)

are these things made to order, or is the pony fandom just that prolific?

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 11:38 AM
New Episode, speculation!!!
You know, suddenly I think this explains Pinkie Sense!:smalleek:

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense is based on a Sherlock Holmesian level of memory, attention to details and deductive power, only unlike him Pinkie's is subconscious. Everywhere she goes she picks up on everything, every little detail, and her mind just subconsciously chugs away creating connections between it all. And when all these connections lead to some realization, her tail twitches or something else. She can predict the future simply through brain power, and it's a good enough prediction that it's usually true.

New Ep Speculation Not-Quite-Spoilers

I like this theory. Pinkie Pie just has a massive level of spatial awareness and attention to detail. She's aware of everything going on around her even if she isn't consciously aware of it. Then the tail twitches and eye flutters are just a result of her brain firing off almost random signals caused by the increased mental activity.

...Does this mean that Pinkie has access to a larger portion of her brain than most ponies?


@Thanqol: Read through the story and thought it was pretty good. Nice work with the rhymes, though the short/caught one didn't quite line up right. I've tried coming up with other things you could use but am drawing a blank.

PhantomFox
2012-02-18, 11:53 AM
So much to say...

Obviously the song is the highlight, but it'd still be good without it. But that song pushes all the right buttons for me. It is quintessentially Pinkie Pie and had a nice bubblegum beat with harmony (even if it's pop harmony) and a last verse key change.
So much continuity in this episode, it's amazing! First the cake twins, and then Rainbow reading Daring Do in the library. And lots of minor characters and background ponies!

There are so many good lines and shots to mention... this is a great episode.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-18, 11:54 AM
you forgot this....
[Pinkie Button]

http://i.imgur.com/ROEne.png100%... no way is that big enough. Even with 20% more Pinkie its not enough for the extra extra extra ME of this episode!

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 12:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ROEne.png100%... no way is that big enough. Even with 20% more Pinkie its not enough for the extra extra extra ME of this episode!

New Ep

Pinkie has a point there. After all, at it's peak there was 200% more Pinkie Pie than any other episode. :smalltongue:

legomaster00156
2012-02-18, 12:02 PM
Party of One + Baby Cakes + A Friend in Deed = the holy Pinkie Pie Trinity. :smallbiggrin:

Castaras
2012-02-18, 12:04 PM
New Episode

I loved this episode. It was very predictable as before, but for some reason it made me feel exceedingly warm and fuzzy and happy inside.

The song was amazing.

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 12:05 PM
Just watched the last bit of the episode on YouTube since the stream I was watching died for me at that point.

New Ep

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/6b0a44fd66739250b24f5ce5c17d4c8b/134256%20-%20crazy_legs%20pinkie_physics%20pinkie_pie%20scre en_cap.PNG
Pinkie Pie confirmed for daughter of Loki. :smalleek:

Deadly
2012-02-18, 12:10 PM
are these things made to order, or is the pony fandom just that prolific?

There are a lot of artists I suppose. Not hard to find something fitting for just about any conversation.


Just watched the last bit of the episode on YouTube since the stream I was watching died for me at that point.

New Ep

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/6b0a44fd66739250b24f5ce5c17d4c8b/134256%20-%20crazy_legs%20pinkie_physics%20pinkie_pie%20scre en_cap.PNG
Pinkie Pie confirmed for daughter of Loki. :smalleek:


Yay! :smallbiggrin:

Diego Havoc
2012-02-18, 12:13 PM
Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

You have my deepest sympathies, Ronin. :smallfrown:


New epsiode:
Glad I didn't spoil the song. Well worth it. That plus the, what, five other songs made this an excellent episode.

Did you guys spot Derpy?
She was in the snow globe!

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/d598a62f6efa635e9dcbf702a37141af/134241%20-%20derpy_hooves%20pinkie_pie%20snow_globe.jpg

I loved the ending: Pinkie Pie is blasting off agaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiin!

Oh Gods, there's already a Cranky Tumblr :smalleek:

I dunno if I can say this was my favourite episode, but it's up there with... well, all the rest really.

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-18, 12:13 PM
Immediate post-episode thoughts:
Well, the song was pretty fun, the continuity nods are nice (even if I don't really see RD as the kind of pony to read something in a library), and the premise isn't bad. Pinkie Pie is Pinkie Pie (even pulling up a clone of herself in one scene, that's a new high for in-show 4th wall damage), but... unfortunately, most of the things in the "accept my apology" section had me in a state of permanent facepalm. As much as I like this sort of ridiculous humor in the classic cartoons, seeing it in FiM doesn't sit well with me. Sure, this is Pinkie, but the donkey isn't. And he still pulls the classic "dust trail into the hills and up the mountain" move. With RD flying away and Pinkie chasing, it was believable and fun, because RD is fast and Pinkie is Pinkie. With a cranky donkey who has no business doing this kind of thing? Ridiculous and facepalm-inducing. Plus, no matter how Pinkie Pinkie is, pushing your eye through a keyhole and looking around is way too Looney Tunes. As is hiding behind a loose brick inside a solid brick bridge support. Rule of Funny is only funny up until a point.

Also, as much as I adore Pinkie's friendmaking checklist, if I ever see a pony writing with a hoof again, I'm stuffing the whole episode into the Non-Canon crate.

Forum Explorer
2012-02-18, 12:16 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your loss Ronin:smallfrown:

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 12:18 PM
Immediate post-episode thoughts:
Well, the song was pretty fun, the continuity nods are nice (even if I don't really see RD as the kind of pony to read something in a library), and the premise isn't bad. Pinkie Pie is Pinkie Pie (even pulling up a clone of herself in one scene, that's a new high for in-show 4th wall damage), but... unfortunately, most of the things in the "accept my apology" section had me in a state of permanent facepalm. As much as I like this sort of ridiculous humor in the classic cartoons, seeing it in FiM doesn't sit well with me. Sure, this is Pinkie, but the donkey isn't. And he still pulls the classic "dust trail into the hills and up the mountain" move. With RD flying away and Pinkie chasing, it was believable and fun, because RD is fast and Pinkie is Pinkie. With a cranky donkey who has no business doing this kind of thing? Ridiculous and facepalm-inducing. Plus, no matter how Pinkie Pinkie is, pushing your eye through a keyhole and looking around is way too Looney Tunes. As is hiding behind a loose brick inside a solid brick bridge support. Rule of Funny is only funny up until a point.

Also, as much as I adore Pinkie's friendmaking checklist, if I ever see a pony writing with a hoof again, I'm stuffing the whole episode into the Non-Canon crate.

New Ep

The Pinkie clone during a song sequence is the new high of 4th-wall breaking? What about the part when Pinkie Pie made an imaginary object manifest? :smalltongue:

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-18, 12:26 PM
New Ep

The Pinkie clone during a song sequence is the new high of 4th-wall breaking? What about the part when Pinkie Pie made an imaginary object manifest? :smalltongue:
I wouldn't put it past Pinkie to carry a physical checkmark in the same hammerspace she uses to carry a foam #1 finger and her party cannon, for the sake of a sight gag. But as far as I'm aware, nowhere previously in the show did she actually interact with another herself. Right now I'm mostly surprised that contact between two Pinkie Pies didn't create some sort of universe-consuming wormhole.

thubby
2012-02-18, 12:34 PM
pinkie walked through a wall, moved at speeds comparable to RD, and has fit in physically impossible spaces

she's well beyond having hammer space, and is getting into bugs bunny powers.

RobD
2012-02-18, 12:36 PM
Episode:
1st impression:
Personally, my favorite song of the series, so far.
Nice callbacks to the Cake twins and Rainbow's new reading hobby.
Welcome Wagon. Of course.
Hey, the spa ponies return.
Was that Derpy in the snowglobe?
2nd impression:
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/049/c/8/pinkie_the_menace_by_robd2003-d4q4u02.jpg

Gamerlord
2012-02-18, 12:41 PM
Episode thoughts:
That was absolutely amazing. That is all. Though the song did creep me out a bit,some of those lyrics make Pinkie sound like some Eldritch horror that feeds off happiness.

Gideon Falcon
2012-02-18, 12:41 PM
Oh my goodness.

BEST. EPISODE. EVAR.

All of my D'awws, and super-duper-quadruple confirmation of MlP:FiM staff as best ponies.

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-18, 12:46 PM
pinkie walked through a wall, moved at speeds comparable to RD, and has fit in physically impossible spaces

she's well beyond having hammer space, and is getting into bugs bunny powers.Until she's beset by an Ursa behind her back, turns around, looks at the viewers again, holds up a sign reading "YIPE", then runs away screaming, I'm going to reserve my judgement on that particular theory.

But this episode, ponies and their characters discounted, could just as well have been made by Walter Lantz or Warner Brothers rather than Studio B. I know it's Pinkie Pie, but that is not an excuse to go so far into the wacky.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-18, 12:51 PM
Until she's beset by an Ursa behind her back, turns around, looks at the viewers again, holds up a sign reading "YIPE", then runs away screaming, I'm going to reserve my judgement on that particular theory.

Oh wow that's a great idea! you TOTALLY should send that in and stuff. I'd love for the script to have me do that gag. http://i.imgur.com/w3dl4.png

Anarion
2012-02-18, 01:11 PM
Episode thoughts:
That was absolutely amazing. That is all. Though the song did creep me out a bit,some of those lyrics make Pinkie sound like some Eldritch horror that feeds off happiness.

Sounds accurate.


Until she's beset by an Ursa behind her back, turns around, looks at the viewers again, holds up a sign reading "YIPE", then runs away screaming, I'm going to reserve my judgement on that particular theory.

But this episode, ponies and their characters discounted, could just as well have been made by Walter Lantz or Warner Brothers rather than Studio B. I know it's Pinkie Pie, but that is not an excuse to go so far into the wacky.

Frankly, I would enjoy it if they did this. Pinkie Pie sort of goes in and out of episodes, so I honestly think she could pull this gag off in the right circumstances and it would be hilarious but would also not cause any problems for the world. Basically, it needs to be in a situation where Pinkie's actions have absolutely no bearing on what's going to happen. Perhaps Twilight or Rainbow is involved in fighting the beast off and Pinkie is literally just setting up the scene for us. So long as the scene would work utterly identically without Pinkie making the joke, I think you could make it and amuse the audience at no loss.

MCerberus
2012-02-18, 01:15 PM
Episode thoughts:
That was absolutely amazing. That is all. Though the song did creep me out a bit,some of those lyrics make Pinkie sound like some Eldritch horror that feeds off happiness.

Score one for the Cult of the Pink One

Roninhirox
2012-02-18, 01:16 PM
Thank you everypony for the well wishes my family and I really appreciate it. Double thanks go out to ShadowoftheSun for making the post for me when I couldn't get the words out.

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 01:16 PM
Episode thoughts:
That was absolutely amazing. That is all. Though the song did creep me out a bit,some of those lyrics make Pinkie sound like some Eldritch horror that feeds off happiness.


I knew it! Why does no one belive me!


Also, Ronin, I am sorry for your loss.

MCerberus
2012-02-18, 01:18 PM
Thank you everypony for the well wishes my family and I really appreciate it. Double thanks go out to ShadowoftheSun for making the post for me when I couldn't get the words out.

Did we already have a hug swarm?
We need a double hug swarm

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-18, 01:21 PM
Episode thoughts:
That was absolutely amazing. That is all. Though the song did creep me out a bit,some of those lyrics make Pinkie sound like some Eldritch horror that feeds off happiness.Sounds accurate.
I believe this image supports that theory:

New Ep

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/6b0a44fd66739250b24f5ce5c17d4c8b/134256%20-%20crazy_legs%20pinkie_physics%20pinkie_pie%20scre en_cap.PNG
Pinkie Pie confirmed for daughter of Loki. :smalleek:




Frankly, I would enjoy it if they did this. Pinkie Pie sort of goes in and out of episodes, so I honestly think she could pull this gag off in the right circumstances and it would be hilarious but would also not cause any problems for the world. Basically, it needs to be in a situation where Pinkie's actions have absolutely no bearing on what's going to happen. Perhaps Twilight or Rainbow is involved in fighting the beast off and Pinkie is literally just setting up the scene for us. So long as the scene would work utterly identically without Pinkie making the joke, I think you could make it and amuse the audience at no loss.For that particular gag, I agree. It'd be a fairly obvious shout-out to Bugs, and it'd be funny on its own on top of that. But it wouldn't work if it was Fluttershy doing it, for instance, because we don't see Fluttershy as the cartoon-physics pony. This is why the parts I mentioned before caused me to react with a facepalm. Too over-the-top for a character who isn't supposed to be, Pinkie Pie in vicinity or no.

Kindablue
2012-02-18, 01:26 PM
Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

I'm sorry for your loss, Ronin. You'll be in my thoughts.

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 01:28 PM
New ep
Anyone have a name for the pony near Bonbon and Lyra in the first song?

otakuryoga
2012-02-18, 01:32 PM
Episode thoughts:
That was absolutely amazing. That is all. Though the song did creep me out a bit,some of those lyrics make Pinkie sound like some Eldritch horror that feeds off happiness.

have you MET The Pink One?

she has been hanging out here for quite some time you know

Lix Lorn
2012-02-18, 01:40 PM
First of all, as I believe I may have occasionally mentioned, IMMUNE. TO. MIND.-AFFECTING. EFFECTS.
Setting aside the fact that I'm teasing you, because stacking moral ones leads to essentially the same events as immoral ones, I'm sure I could bypass that if necessary.


I have a psychotic Pikachu and Lixie is not immune to lightning.
Depends on your definition. I really doubt it could kill me, but it would definitely hurt.


(The answer to unstoppable force meets immovable object is the unstoppable force bounces off and keeps going; both conditions remain true)


Also Thanqol you answered a rhetorical question those are designed to make you think not to be answered do not do that thanqol
Yes
Thanqol stop hacking reality


The alignment scale makes no sense anyway.
Not the point.


Well, true. But only if the Shipping spells have, like, an ongoing duration/effect. If they are an instantanious thing, then they have already done their work and are not there to be dispelled any longer. Course, that might be splashing a little into the deep end of the alignment pool, so to speak?
I'm no expert, you'd probably have to check with Lixie, they're her spells after all.
Depends on the spell.


Immediate post-episode thoughts:
Well, the song was pretty fun, the continuity nods are nice (even if I don't really see RD as the kind of pony to read something in a library), and the premise isn't bad. Pinkie Pie is Pinkie Pie (even pulling up a clone of herself in one scene, that's a new high for in-show 4th wall damage), but... unfortunately, most of the things in the "accept my apology" section had me in a state of permanent facepalm. As much as I like this sort of ridiculous humor in the classic cartoons, seeing it in FiM doesn't sit well with me. Sure, this is Pinkie, but the donkey isn't. And he still pulls the classic "dust trail into the hills and up the mountain" move. With RD flying away and Pinkie chasing, it was believable and fun, because RD is fast and Pinkie is Pinkie. With a cranky donkey who has no business doing this kind of thing? Ridiculous and facepalm-inducing. Plus, no matter how Pinkie Pinkie is, pushing your eye through a keyhole and looking around is way too Looney Tunes. As is hiding behind a loose brick inside a solid brick bridge support. Rule of Funny is only funny up until a point.

Also, as much as I adore Pinkie's friendmaking checklist, if I ever see a pony writing with a hoof again, I'm stuffing the whole episode into the Non-Canon crate.
Someone's crankyyyyy
http://i.imgur.com/ROEne.png


Thank you everypony for the well wishes my family and I really appreciate it. Double thanks go out to ShadowoftheSun for making the post for me when I couldn't get the words out.
(hugs)
All my love to you and your family.

Zevox
2012-02-18, 02:01 PM
New episode:
Well, that was pretty good. A better Pinkie episode than Baby Cakes, to be sure. The song was a bit too cheesy for my taste, and I was getting pretty annoyed with Pinkie's inability to take a hint and leave the poor donkey alone for a little while there, but a lot of humor worked - I especially love the classic cartoon antics of the chase scene. Ending kinda came outta nowhere though - I mean really, the girl he was looking for just happened to live in Ponyville? - but I guess since this is MLP it had to have a happy ending, so I can't complain too much about that.

Also, Rainbow reading callback was much appreciated :smallbiggrin: . Not sure why Twilight was bothered by Rainbow's remark though - it was strictly a factual observation, and not one that seems like it'd offend Pinkie to me.
Zevox

Benson
2012-02-18, 02:04 PM
new episode 1st thoughts


WHY would Rarity model a toupee off of Blueblood?



if anything, its more modeled after the sea serpent's, and not Blueblood's

Gamerlord
2012-02-18, 02:05 PM
If this article is correct, the Hub is going to be moving new episodes of FIM up a few hours. (http://www.nickandmore.com/2012/02/18/the-hub-changes-saturday-line-up-starting-march-3/)

Anarion
2012-02-18, 02:08 PM
Oh, by the by, they also put up a new episode synopsis for the one airing on March 17th.

Episode: Dragon Quest
Air Date: March 17, 2012)
Synopsis: Spike joins the Great Dragon Migration to discover his true identity, but it might not be what he really needs.

Premise sounds pretty cool, and the lesson is going to probably be something about appreciating the things you already have. If they somehow manage to work in a reference to the Dragon Quest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest) game series in the actual episode, my life would be complete.

Diego Havoc
2012-02-18, 02:09 PM
if anything, its more modeled after the sea serpent's, and not Blueblood's
Episode spoilers
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/67318d99e1bfbfae107ccac09d1552ef/134268%20-%20cranky_doodle_donkey%20pinkie_pie%20steven_magn et.jpg

ScionoftheVoid
2012-02-18, 02:21 PM
Ronin, I'm sorry for your loss. Just wanted to say that before moving on to anything else.

Episode thoughts:It started strong, and was still good throughout most of it, but for a moment I dared hope that Pinkie was going to have to suffer the consequences of her actions. Alas, it was not to be. Touching someone else's property without their permission is not nice. Continuing to do so after being asked specifically not to is horrible. Continuing to do so out of their presence and then destroying someone else's things is absolutely despicable. It would be bad if it were an accident, but Pinkie was almost going out of her way to break something. That it's all alright if you interfere in their life further and further until something goes right is not a lesson I would ever want to give anyone. It just drags the whole episode down for me knowing that Pinkie was allowed to ruin someone's life just because she eventually managed to kind of fix it. What if she didn't find the exact thing in all of Equestria that could have made up for it? What if Cranky had stuck to his (at this point more than sensible) plan of just making Pinkie go away? Sometimes you should take a hint, and sometimes you should learn to not be a complete... a complete... I don't even know (and if I did I might not be able to say it here!). Pinkie's behaviour was just appalling.

Sorry for going all serious, but that just touches a nerve.

Kairaven
2012-02-18, 02:22 PM
A wonderful AKR episode, you can see a lot of her touch in it. But I have to say I don't consider it her best.

Cow - Daisy Jo
Old pony - Mr. Waddle

It seems Cows are Canadian, and Donkeys are eastern european equivalent? Although as far as pinkie is concerned Donkeys seems to be considered part of the pony race. Which makes it even weirder that Zebras wasn't....

great song is great.

that thought process...

welcome wagon song sounds eerily close to Happy monthiversary.

stalker pinkie..... should try to get a restraining order except it looks like the mayor, the judge, and the city counscil-pony are all in Pinkie's happy smile racket. I am on to your happiness bribery.

no one ever ever ever ever rejects Pinkie, and that's something one should remember Four-ever.

So how did Two young Donkeys get into one of the most prestigious event of Equestria? There's seems to be a story there. Were Matilda and Cranky defected Donkey diplomats/scientists/spies? Did Matilda get relocated to Ponyville under Defector protection to start a new life?

Anarion
2012-02-18, 02:31 PM
Ronin, I'm sorry for your loss. Just wanted to say that before moving on to anything else.

Episode thoughts:It started strong, and was still good throughout most of it, but for a moment I dared hope that Pinkie was going to have to suffer the consequences of her actions. Alas, it was not to be. Touching someone else's property without their permission is not nice. Continuing to do so after being asked specifically not to is horrible. Continuing to do so out of their presence and then destroying someone else's things is absolutely despicable. It would be bad if it were an accident, but Pinkie was almost going out of her way to break something. That it's all alright if you interfere in their life further and further until something goes right is not a lesson I would ever want to give anyone. It just drags the whole episode down for me knowing that Pinkie was allowed to ruin someone's life just because she eventually managed to kind of fix it. What if she didn't find the exact thing in all of Equestria that could have made up for it? What if Cranky had stuck to his (at this point more than sensible) plan of just making Pinkie go away? Sometimes you should take a hint, and sometimes you should learn to not be a complete... a complete... I don't even know (and if I did I might not be able to say it here!). Pinkie's behaviour was just appalling.

Sorry for going all serious, but that just touches a nerve.

You're right, but I wasn't bothered by this at all and here's why. Pinkie Pie, for many purposes, is a kid. In fact, this is reinforced in this particular episode with Cranky constantly calling her kid. I think this might be a great indication of the distinction that the pony world seems to make between the maturity required to hold a job and live independently vs. the emotional maturity often expected of adults in the real world.

The fact that, at least for this episode, Pinkie Pie is a child changes the dynamic significantly. It's one thing if you ask another adult not to touch your things and they disobey. It's rude and awful. But if you have all your stuff out and a kid is curious, interested, and energetic, they might start looking into it. Doubly so when you rebuff the kid, then don't watch them, but also don't put any of your things away.

AlterForm
2012-02-18, 02:51 PM
New Episode (Friend in Deed)
Liked the song, for the most part. Right around when the final verse/chorus with ensemble started I felt my enthusiasm for it wan. Someone mentioned there was a key change; I'm no musician (so I don't know how to listen for that), but maybe that was it?

Lukewarm on the physical comedy and Pinkie antics. Not my cup of tea, but it didn't make me want to skip half the episode this time (like Lesson Zero or Feeling Pinkie Keen), and I know some viewers really enjoy that.

Excellent marks on the lesson this time. I was worried coming out of the reuniting scene that they would play up how "you can always make friendship work if you try hard enough!" which would have really rubbed me the wrong way. Instead, they found a good compromise between some folks not being someone you should pursue a friendship with (which my cynical empathy for CDD was rooting for) and the show's general message of FRIENDSHIP.

[EDIT]: Oh, and I'm now waiting for someone to FUS-RO-DAH over the confetti cannon/oven scene. :smallbiggrin:

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 02:55 PM
It seems Cows are Canadian, and Donkeys are eastern european equivalent? Although as far as pinkie is concerned Donkeys seems to be considered part of the pony race. Which makes it even weirder that Zebras wasn't....




Well, there was a mule as a throw-away gag at one point, and because there are no horses in sight (unless you count the giant ones in the castle garden to be stoned ponies), there probably the result of pony-on-donkey pairing. On the other hand, good luck with them getting a zony into the show.


So how did Two young Donkeys get into one of the most prestigious event of Equestria? There's seems to be a story there. Were Matilda and Cranky defected Donkey diplomats/scientists/spies? Did Matilda get relocated to Ponyville under Defector protection to start a new life?

Presumably the same way a little dragon would have. They were both invited in different groups, and they both managed to spot each other out from the crowd. And most likely they are native to the land. I mean, there seems to be a moderate non-pony population that is not confined to a farm around. I mean, look at Gilda. Or even what seems to be the head cow, who seems to be able to leave Sweet Apple Acres just fine. Also, they might have places of there own. I suggest Hamsterdam and Cowcutta, myself.

/endrambles

Diego Havoc
2012-02-18, 03:02 PM
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/e9b85e10bca6931134f30a3bd37472fc/133472%20-%20ballistics%20boobies%20bosoms%20cleavage%20Dem_ bust%20fun_bags%20jubblies%20jugs%20knockers%20mel ons%20milk_factories%20parody%20role_reversal%20ST ONKING_GREAT_TITS%20Tara_Strong%20Tara_strong_is_b est_human%20time_paradox%20Trotter%20twilight_spar kle%20Twitter.JPG

I laughed at this. Not just for the clever reversal (in Soviet Russia, pony posts YOU!), but for the tags that Ponibooru-goers decided to add (check the image url :smalltongue:).

And since I'm here, Image dump time!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/298dbd312aa64a4052e5aaa15dee73da/133928%20-%20artist%3AThe-Laughing-Horror%20Friendship_is_Witchcraft%20Gypsy%20pinkie %27s_brew%20pinkie_pie.jpg

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/47d5100f9b43401359e2d3cee2699764/131289%20-%20artist%3Ajohn_joseco%20gangster%20humanized%20m afia%20Snails%20snips%20swaggified%20trench_coat.j peg

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Does anyone else remember Ragnarok Online?
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/a7514f9dd395f5c3d29a907facb83f2d/131016%20-%20applejack%20artist%3Ajohn_joseco%20blacksmith%2 0derpy_hooves%20humanized%20Ragnarok_Online%20supe r_novice%20winged_humanization.jpeg

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http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/73e31f74d3873a386aac4a8f05413b3d/133759%20-%20artist%3Aayeletshemtov%20derpy_hooves%20feather duster%20maid.jpg

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/a5b048c0ed32ad98d022bcdcfd5226b7/133490%20-%20Alicorn%20artist%3Asaturnspace%20celestia%20liv estream_request%20portrait%20princess%20steampunk. png

Eakin
2012-02-18, 03:07 PM
> Getting to sleep
> "Oh, that fanfic contest closes in 24 hours. Guess I'm not going to make that deadline."
> "... Thanqol, you don't have to win everything. Let it go. Sometimes the Internet wins."
> "LIKE HELL THE INTERNET WINS, I'MA PROVE I CAN FINISH THIS DARN THING RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME"

And then I stayed up until 2am to finish this darn thing. I think it's rubbish, personally, and I've got less than 24 hours to go through edit and revision before I submit it. A week is way too short for my process to fully unpack. But I'ma submit it anyway 'cause I hold a low opinion of what anypony else in this fandom would be able to accomplish in that timeframe.

Any edits or tweaks would be appreciated, and the sooner the better, but I've got a pretty busy day ahead so broad rewrites are out of the question. Also, a title suggestion would be great.

*snip story*


Feedback 2: "Electric Boogaloo" is a horrible subtitle

caught/short line suggestions:

Your time is short! If you find your life precious,
then flee from this place or face Timberwolves vicious!

Your time may be precious, I have no doubt,
But Timberwolves are coming! Go on now, get out!

I keep rereading the passage between the wolves appearing and the Flim Flams, and I can't for the life of me make out where they actually enter the scene.

"he’d hur t himself"
Got an extra space there

I know how annoying it must be rhyme all that dialogue, and how much worse it would be if everything Derpy was saying had to rhyme as well. However, every time we get a rhythm going with the rhyming dialogue, a non-rhyming passage pops up and I lose all that momentum trying to adjust. Plus my brain hurts when there's a line in Derpy's non-rhyming dialogue that actually DOES rhyme, because then I'm looking at the lines around it trying to see if there was something I missed instead of reading the story. I know it's not something you can fix in the next few hours though, sorry.



wow this thread moves fast.

Heh, you should have seen us back in our glory days. What you're seeing now is about half of the old maximum speed


Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

I'm really sorry to hear that Ronin. My sympathies and best wishes go out to you and your family.

ScionoftheVoid
2012-02-18, 03:13 PM
You're right, but I wasn't bothered by this at all and here's why. Pinkie Pie, for many purposes, is a kid. In fact, this is reinforced in this particular episode with Cranky constantly calling her kid. I think this might be a great indication of the distinction that the pony world seems to make between the maturity required to hold a job and live independently vs. the emotional maturity often expected of adults in the real world.

The fact that, at least for this episode, Pinkie Pie is a child changes the dynamic significantly. It's one thing if you ask another adult not to touch your things and they disobey. It's rude and awful. But if you have all your stuff out and a kid is curious, interested, and energetic, they might start looking into it. Doubly so when you rebuff the kid, then don't watch them, but also don't put any of your things away.

All the better opportunity to teach any children watching that it's really not okay. And Pinkie has shown that she can be responsible and sensible, but just doesn't bother. That might be fine most of the time but if she is very obviously angering someone and being a jerk it's time for another lesson in growing up, not everlasting thanks with a sidenote of "oh, and some ponies prefer peace and quiet to energy and volume and that's okay, too".

Where exactly was he supposed to put them away? She was in his wagon and his house messing with his property. He doesn't have anywhere safer to put it. He asks her throughout the episode to leave him alone, not touch his property and generally be a halfway decent pony being. That's not unreasonable, at all. And he still couldn't get rid of her. With a child you can ask their parent or guardian to stop them from bothering you, but what exactly is he supposed to do with someone who should have learnt this by now? Who is he supposed to bring in to get her under control? As much as I hate to say it, she acts as bad as or worse than antagonists like Gilda, yet one is driven out of town and the other is universally loved.

Blargh. This just really rubbed me the wrong way. I'll have to listen to the letter again and see, but it just didn't sound like the right message to put across...

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 03:41 PM
New Ep

I've had Smile Smile Smile playing on repeat for the last 2.5 hours. And it hasn't gotten old yet. And it's still got me in a good mood. :smalleek:

Mando Knight
2012-02-18, 03:42 PM
So how did Two young Donkeys get into one of the most prestigious event of Equestria? There's seems to be a story there. Were Matilda and Cranky defected Donkey diplomats/scientists/spies? Did Matilda get relocated to Ponyville under Defector protection to start a new life?
The Princess, AKA Trollestia. She is the best-ia.

Also, I need someone with a better ear to confirm this for me... did they get Peter Cullen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Jtt2BVMLU) to voice Cranky Doodle?

Deadly
2012-02-18, 03:47 PM
Apparently the episodes are going to air later from now own. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/scheduling-change-for-friendship-is.html)

I can't figure out these US time zones. What the hay does "East Coast time" mean? Is it Eastern Time (apparently GTM-5) or the time zone of the east coast (apparently GMT-8) (Edit: Derp! Totally confused west with east here, but still, I hate when only US times are given) or something entirely different? Time zones are freakin' complicated.

Can't they just say what the difference is between the new and the old time? Like, "it's 4 hours later than it used to be" or whatever, that'd be much more helpful. So... how many hours later is this, please someone clarify that for me?

Nameless
2012-02-18, 03:48 PM
New episode:
It was... Nice. http://i.imgur.com/EvxT1.png
The ending was kind of weak and I kind of prefer episodes that show more of the other main six... but it was nice. I did like the fact that it had four Pinkie songs though.

BlasTech
2012-02-18, 03:54 PM
Ugh, talk about major mood whiplash this morning. Saw the obnoxiously happy new episode. Thoughts can be summarised thusly:

New song was great
Fourth wall will never recover (six hooves?!)
Ending blindsided me with its suddenness, but was explained. Didn't really register the other donkey at the start due to the flood of BG ponies/zebras etc.
Quite a few continuity nods, were these all by the same author or are they collaborating?

Then came and saw this ...


Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

Am very sorry to hear this Ronin, you have my sympathies.

I'm going to go listen to pony music until I cheer up again. That, and catch up on 5 pages of new ponythread.

Gamerlord
2012-02-18, 03:55 PM
Apparently the episodes are going to air later from now own. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/scheduling-change-for-friendship-is.html)

I can't figure out these US time zones. What the hay does "East Coast time" mean? Is it Eastern Time (apparently GTM-5) or the time zone of the east coast (apparently GMT-8) (Edit: Derp! Totally confused west with east here, but still, I hate when only US times are given) or something entirely different? Time zones are freakin' complicated.

Can't they just say what the difference is between the new and the old time? Like, "it's 4 hours later than it used to be" or whatever, that'd be much more helpful. So... how many hours later is this, please someone clarify that for me?
It'll be about three hours later.

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 03:56 PM
Apparently the episodes are going to air later from now own. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/scheduling-change-for-friendship-is.html)

I can't figure out these US time zones. What the hay does "East Coast time" mean? Is it Eastern Time (apparently GTM-5) or the time zone of the east coast (apparently GMT-8) or something entirely different? Time zones are freakin' complicated.

Can't they just say what the difference is between the new and the old time? Like, "it's 4 hours later than it used to be" or whatever, that'd be much more helpful. So... how many hours later is this, please someone clarify that for me?

East Coast Time is +3 hours ahead of California/Washington time. It covers the East Coast (duh), and stretches out until 'round the border of West Virginia. Then you have GMT +2, GMT, PMT -2, and PST.

Confusing, yes. But I travel to New York every year.

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-18, 03:58 PM
Apparently the episodes are going to air later from now own. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/scheduling-change-for-friendship-is.html)

I can't figure out these US time zones. What the hay does "East Coast time" mean? Is it Eastern Time (apparently GTM-5) or the time zone of the east coast (apparently GMT-8) (Edit: Derp! Totally confused west with east here, but still, I hate when only US times are given) or something entirely different? Time zones are freakin' complicated.

Can't they just say what the difference is between the new and the old time? Like, "it's 4 hours later than it used to be" or whatever, that'd be much more helpful. So... how many hours later is this, please someone clarify that for me?

Dang it now I'm going to have to get up earlier and do all the stuff I normally do after pony before pony. CURSE YOU HUB!!!

Istari
2012-02-18, 03:59 PM
Apparently the episodes are going to air later from now own. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/scheduling-change-for-friendship-is.html)

I can't figure out these US time zones. What the hay does "East Coast time" mean? Is it Eastern Time (apparently GTM-5) or the time zone of the east coast (apparently GMT-8) (Edit: Derp! Totally confused west with east here, but still, I hate when only US times are given) or something entirely different? Time zones are freakin' complicated.

Can't they just say what the difference is between the new and the old time? Like, "it's 4 hours later than it used to be" or whatever, that'd be much more helpful. So... how many hours later is this, please someone clarify that for me?

Eastern Standard Time (GMT -5), not sure what other East coast it would refer to.

Edit : Pinkie'd http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.png

Deadly
2012-02-18, 04:01 PM
It'll be about three hours later.

Thanks. I'm OK with that. It'll probably mean I waste a little less of my saturdays. I have a bad habit of getting nothing done for the rest of the day after an episode has aired.


East Coast Time is +3 hours ahead of California/Washington time. It covers the East Coast (duh), and stretches out until 'round the border of West Virginia. Then you have GMT +2, GMT, PMT -2, and PST.

Confusing, yes. But I travel to New York every year.

I totally looked at the west coast instead of the east coast. Duh. But still, I know what GMT-5 means, while I have to go look up something like "Eastern Time" and apparently I can't even do that right :smalltongue:

Eakin
2012-02-18, 04:09 PM
New episode!


Wow, I wonder if every pony has an embarrassing outfit from the 80s. Pinkie's looked like something Mane Fonda would wear

Returning background characters! I don't think we've seen Minnesota cow since S1E4. I wonder if they'll ever show Rose hanging out with Doctor Whooves? And we have a name for the old pony from the balcony in Mare Do Well and the funeral from Hearts and Hooves. I'm glad they're fleshing out a supporting cast.

HELL YES FINALLY! I have been waiting SO LONG for Smile Smile Smile!

Wow, I don't think the laws of physics are going to survive this much continuous expose to Pinkie Pie. Also, between pulling herself up a cliff face, playing drums while doing stand up comedy, and popping up from different angles during the cupcakes song last season, Pinkie might actually be Christian Bale from The Prestige.

"I'm guessing that last D is for Donkey!" Oh Pinkie, you and your hilarious casual racism!

Well, the inside of Pinkie's head is way less terrifying than I would have expected. That logic was totally sound. And I like the paper cut out style

Pinkie has her own welcome wagon. That was actually a pretty subtle pun. I'm impressed that the writers had that kind of restraint not to beat us over the head with it.

Who keeps giving Pinkie cannons? How could that possibly seem like a wise thing to do?

FOR-NEVER!

NEW DERRING DO BOOK! I freeze framed, but I think the title's still "Sapphire Stone" so... she's reading it over again? Still, great continuity nod.

That chase sequence was straight out of Loony Toons

Pinkie is surprisingly adept at getting places via chimneys

75 days from now is... May 3rd? Pinkie's birthday confirmed?

Excellent choice of music for the end credits.

Was this the best episode ever? I don't know, that's what I say about EVERY episode. But this one was awesome

TheAmishPirate
2012-02-18, 04:16 PM
I have to object. This would be, from memory, the fifth or sixth time that despite an in-thread 'election', we get a thread title someone brought up to you in private that was never discussed. These titles would be fine for the private correspondence they come up in, but it's kind of rude to name the thread something you prefer after the rest of the thread goes through the trouble of picking what it wants the next iteration to be, fairly and publicly.

Agreed. I don't mind additional submissions to the name-pool, but let the thread decide.


Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

I'm so sorry. RoninHiroX, you and your family are in my prayers.

Mando Knight
2012-02-18, 04:19 PM
East Coast Time is +3 hours ahead of California/Washington time. It covers the East Coast (duh), and stretches out until 'round the border of West Virginia. Then you have GMT +2, GMT, PMT -2, and PST.
It goes to Indiana (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Worldwide_Time_Zones_%28including_DST%29.png), actually.

Forum Explorer
2012-02-18, 04:30 PM
New Episode
I've been waiting for this episode for quite a while. I always was curious on how Pinkie handled somepony who was quieter and wanted peace and quiet. Which is apparently; annoy the buck out of them and then go to insane lengths to regain their friendship.

Also Pinkie as the PINK ONE has been confirmed in my mind.

I really liked the continuity nods, even if they were really recent (the foals and Derring Do.) I'm also glad that Twilight got to show up for at least a little bit.

Deadly
2012-02-18, 04:32 PM
New Episode
Seems like the title of the Daring Do book is still "Sapphire Stone" but the cover is clearly that of the "Griffon's Goblet". At least it clearly has a griffon on it (NEW griffon, not Gilda! YAY!) and a goblet too

http://i.imgur.com/oF2bQ.png

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 04:42 PM
New Episode
Seems like the title of the Daring Do book is still "Sapphire Stone" but the cover is clearly that of the "Griffon's Goblet". At least it clearly has a griffon on it (NEW griffon, not Gilda! YAY!) and a goblet too

http://i.imgur.com/oF2bQ.png


Huh. Interesting that they took the time to make a new cover and mess up on the title.

BlasTech
2012-02-18, 04:45 PM
Wellp, caught up. Have a screencap of new ep to overanalyse :smalltongue:

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/c717e1e1a0a8cb3803702f641f0f0bef/134475%20-%20judge%20mayor_mare%20Mayor_Mare%27s_assistant%2 0Ponyville.jpg


New Thread! Have some mustaches!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IzJHEDkSFlA/Tz7Iqoo2ybI/AAAAAAAAfcY/pJs8NRd4bME/s1600/mustache_ponies_by_acesential-d4pz9yt.png

I mustache you a question; why does AJ look so dapper?


New ponythread taste, same great ponymote filling:


I'm not sure if I said this before, but thanks for putting these up every thread. They provide the tools for effective pony expression in so many cases.


BlasTech got them for me! He's awesome.


:smallredface:


Clearly, you must then use all the ethical ones blended together.

It has to work.

Epic Cupcake time meets "Will it blend", hosted by Lixie.


I find it interesting that the old thread was locked after we abandoned it like normal.

Maybe we need to abandon it harder next time? :smalltongue:


wow this thread moves fast.

You have no idea.


I have been trying to hint at this for a while now...

*hugglesPhoe*


There are better questions to be asked.

Like "Why do you value thinking?"



I ... um ... I ...

I'll get back to you on this one, I have to think about it.


> Getting to sleep
> "Oh, that fanfic contest closes in 24 hours. Guess I'm not going to make that deadline."
> "... Thanqol, you don't have to win everything. Let it go. Sometimes the Internet wins."
> "LIKE HELL THE INTERNET WINS, I'MA PROVE I CAN FINISH THIS DARN THING RIGHT NOW AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME"

And then I stayed up until 2am to finish this darn thing. I think it's rubbish, personally, and I've got less than 24 hours to go through edit and revision before I submit it. A week is way too short for my process to fully unpack. But I'ma submit it anyway 'cause I hold a low opinion of what anypony else in this fandom would be able to accomplish in that timeframe.

Any edits or tweaks would be appreciated, and the sooner the better, but I've got a pretty busy day ahead so broad rewrites are out of the question. Also, a title suggestion would be great.


“I’m sorry, ma’am, I really am. I just don’t know what went wrong.

Because four months ago life seemed good, yes? Sun shined, moon shined back, and mail was to be delivered. And I was the best at delivering the mail, oh you bet your horseshoes, ma’am. The very best.

I was a mailmare in those days, see. Wasn’t exactly my talent but it was absolutely my passion. But the Equestrian Postal Service wasn’t in the best of times, ma’am, and things needed to go smoother than an oiled alligator across a melting glacier. And as much as I’ve tried, ma’am, passion don’t really smooth things no matter how much you apply. Mistakes were made. Anvils were creatively relocated. A rogue storm cloud by the name of Kaiser was rather misleading about the side effects of playtime. There was a fall, and an exile, and a lesson about friendship. But there was heat and somepony had to take the heat, ma’am.

They took my hat and took my mailbag and threw me out. Wasn’t them being cruel, neither. They had a three-strikes policy that they occasionally stretched into an eighty-seven strikes policy, but there were limits, ma’am. Limits to everything.

But that’s all excuses, ma’am. I’ve got more excuses where that came from. I’ve got the excuse that I was hungry. I’ve got the excuse that I was cold. I’ve got the excuse that I’ve got a little filly less than three years old. I’ve got the excuse that I was poor. I’ve got the excuse that I was scared. I’ve got the excuse that in the brain I’m not quite all there.

But all of the excuses aren’t quite the truth. The truth is that when Mr. Filthy Rich came wandering by and asked what was wrong, he listened to me, ma’am. And I was in a state where I needed somepony to listen to me more than anything, and listen to all my excuses, and to give me hope. Didn’t matter what he would have told me in that moment, I’d have believed it if it was something to believe in.

And Mr. Filthy Rich didn’t come across as a bad pony. He was a little rich, yes, a little filthy, sure, but he seemed nice enough. He had a charming grin, ma’am, so charming that I’d believe it if his special talent was said to be smiling. And he had pictures of his daughter, and I didn’t think anypony who’s daughter looked that sweet could be all bad.

So I asked him, “Mr. Filthiest, sir,” and he gave me a bit of a glare so I hurried right on, “What business does a business pony have with an out-of-work mailmare?”

And Mr. Rich said to me, “Zap apples, my dear! They grow wild in the Everfree, don’t you see? And while I have to pay Apples for apples, these apples are free! I’ll need a partner for this business adventure, and you’re a perfect fit (and expendible, I’d wager).”

He was offering employment, and employment I lacked, but that comes back to the excuses from before. The truth of the matter, ma’am, is really that I’m not a very clever pony, and I thought Mr. Rich was a really nice pony with a really nice smile. He’d talked to me when I was down and needed a friend and I wanted to help him see his plan to the end. I did it for a smile, ma’am. No lies needed.

We set out immediately towards the Everfree, to see if it was as Mr. Rich had heard. I was kind of nervous because Mr. Rich had told me to look out for monsters, but my eye kept slipping, ma’am. I tried to tell Mr. Rich but I couldn’t quite figure out the words to say that I was occasionally a bit, well, derpy. So I just kept turning around to stare at him, well, sort of, in the hopes he’d realise it was a serious medical condition that might impede my duties as Adventuring Assistant and, most importantly, that it wasn’t my fault. I think he just found it creepy.

But we were lucky and we didn’t run into any monsters. We didn’t walk into any neither, ma’am. We just meandered into the Zap Apple grove in the middle of the woodland without right nothing stopping us. And it was just like Mr. Rich had said – Zap Apples everywhere, without them being even in season!

“Ha!” said Mr. Rich, “The legends were true! The Zap Apples here are always in bloom! No more waiting! No more seasons! No more omens and signals and nonsensical reasons! No more farmers! No more ploughs! Tell me Apples, see these apples, how do you like dem apples now?”

The harvest is ours, Derpy, the harvest is here, and it’s ours for the taking so show no fear!”

And he picked up the axe he’d tied into his tie, and he chopped a tree down just like that. He gathered the apples and threw them into a bag, but by the time he was done the bag was full. He stared at the bag and then he stared at the trees, like he was trying to figure how he could fit the entire forest into his saddlebags.

And it was at that moment when somepony started shouting at us, and it was at about that moment that I momentarily forgot how to be a brave pony and accidentally hid behind a rock. And then a terrible mare emerged from the forest. She was striped like some terrible fae, and she was eating her hay in the evilest way.

“I am Zecora,” said she, “and I speak for the trees! What pony are you who chops down these trees just as you please?”

And Filthy said, “Why the devil are you speaking in rhyme? Speak normal for once and stop wasting my time!”

“If your time is so precious,” quoth Zecora, “that is because it is short! Away you should flee, or by Timber Wolves be caught!”

And it was a terrible sight, a wretched sight, a sight so scary I was glad I only really saw it with one eye. It was like the trees came alive, branch into fang and root into claw. I saw them start towards us, and that was all that I saw.

Mr. Rich started running, and I thought that there was something to that. So I bolted along with him, ma’am, and ran as fast as my hooves could carry me, for as long as my lungs would allow me. I’m not normally one for running, ma’am, but when the trees come at you with fangs and claws I’m one to make an exception.

I swear, ma’am, I felt teeth in my tail and claws on my legs, but I ran like a mailmare. We emerged from the woods and it was like the trees behind us were howling for our blood. Checking my tail, it was full of twigs and rocks and Mr. Rich’s good suit was tattered and torn. He had a look on his face, ma’am, a look like nothing I’d imagined of him. Fury and rage were his as he yelled at the trees.

“Just you wait! Just you see! This wretched forest will soon belong to me!”

A little scary to see, a pony yelling at trees. But even though I usually only recall three of six Elements at a time I was remembering loyalty then and it was loyalty that kept me from running home. It was laughter that I was forgetting, though, so when I turned to look behind me I screamed quite a bit. It took poor Mr. Flim and Mr. Flam ten minutes to calm me down, by which time their dramatic entrance wasn’t quite as dramatic.

They weren’t ponies to give up just because one of their audience had spent ten minutes screaming and flailing, and they were back into the swing of things right quick. Mr. Flim put on his grin and Mr. Flam put on his hat and together they put on a show.

“I’m Film, he’s Flam, we’re two of a kind, with gagets and gizmoes and genius of mind. We provide solutions, and you’re in a jam. Tell me, do we have an answer to this pony’s problem, Flam?”

“I’ll tell you what we do have, Flim, solutions for ghosts, goblins and ghouls. But I’ll tell you once and tell you right, I think our problem here is wolves.”

“Wolves! Oh gracious oh my! How will you cope?” cried Flim

“Don’t fear, my good pony, and don’t ever lose hope!” said Flam.

“For this problem, and more, by the Princess we were tasked,”

“And being the Brothers Flim Flam we responded too fast!”

“And we built the Three-Tracked Tree-Trembler Timber-Tumbler!”

“With the top-of the line Massive and Minor Monster Humbler!”

And now we arrive at what had me screaming so much. I’d seen the Flim Flam Brothers when they’d rode their Cider Machine into town, but that had been nothing compared to what they were currently selling. It towered above the tallest trees, a huge monolith of metal with three sharp axes swinging to and fro in a dizzying way. It was filled with jaws and claws and gnashing teeth and emitted a most dreadful smoke. It could eat a tall tree in a single bite, and I could scarcely imagine what it’d do to a pony.

“Perhaps a demonstration is called for?” Asked Flim with a spangly smile.

“Order early and often, we can always build more!” Said Flam with a star-studded grin.

And the Three-Tracked Tree-Trembler Timber-Tumbler rumbled forwards and the three axes thwacked out – thwacked three times, and three times a crash. Three trees fell and three trees were snatched up. They were sucked through the jaws and the gnashers and the stompers and the burners and out was collected a small pile of apples and a great heap of ash.

“I’ll take one! I’ll take four!” cried Filthy, eyes lighting up like he had back at the Zap Apple Grove.

“Good pony; in this business, you want in on the ground floor.” Said Flim.

And that was how I found myself piloting a four-storey doom robot chopping down the Everfree. It wasn’t how I’d expected the day to go when I woke up that morning, but I wasn’t able to quite put my hoof on what went wrong. None of my decisions seemed outright wrong in retrospect. Just a lot of little wrongs, and I guess that adds up.

There was about one Zap Apple tree to five normal trees, so we cut our way through the forest. The machines chewed up the wood, spared the apples, and left the ash. By the end of the day we’d filled our tanks. It was then that the Brothers Flim Flam told us they’d got a magical Jelly-Jam Power-Presser that they were willing to rent us so we could make Zap Apple Jam.

Afterwards, Mr. Rich counted his profits, and he bought me dinner and told me I was a good assistant and a very clever pony after all and, more importantly, I was a good luck charm and we were going to take over Equestria. And I felt good. I’d gone from down to up; and if getting fired always paid this well I was going to start helping my friends get fired too.

But the next day, when we got up in the morning and walked down to our Tree-Tumblers, we heard the sound of tearing trees and branches. There were no less than twelve Three-Tracked Tree-Trembler Timber-Tumblers trundling through the treeline! Mr. Flim grinned and tipped his hat at us as we passed.

“Quickly Derpy! With all haste! The quest for Zap Apples has become a race!” Shouted Mr. Rich and he climbed aloft his Timber-Tumbler and began Thwacking trees as fast as he could. I hurried to do the same. I tumbled trees by their tens. I didn’t want to let down Mr. Rich, ma’am, so I tumbled as fast as I could.

And at the end, our machines trundled back to the forest’s edge and we took our Apples to the Brothers Flim-Flam. But there was a problem –

“Of Jelly-Jam Power-Pressers we only have one,” cried Mr. Flim in what could be called shock.

“And of ponies with Zap Apples we have over a tonne!” Cried Mr. Flam in a reasonable show of horror.

“A conflict approaches, as sure as the tide,” said Mr. Flim, “Suppose we’ll just have to let the market decide!”

And they held an auction, and it ran to the wire. The price charged for the machine was outrageously high. Mr. Rich lost, but the winner lost too – making an eighth of a bit on every jar of jam sold. And we were left with a lot of apples and nowhere to go. Together, Mr. Rich and I walked on down the lines of ashes and ruins. I tried my best to think of something to fix his problem, but he was falling deeper and deeper into anger, ma’am, and I didn’t want to be nearby when he yelled at trees again.

And then a voice; a once fierce voice, like a ghost of a snarl. It was coughy and puffy and not as scary now. It said, “I am Zecora, and I speak for the trees. Why do you use machines such as these?”

“These machines can do what ponies could not,” said Mr. Rich proudly, “Look now – it is your wolves and not I that have been caught!”

“And was it all you wanted, oh pony of greed? Is this what you sought? Is this what you need?”

“No! I’ve been set up! I’ve been scammed! This two-faced betrayal was not what was planned!” cried Mr. Rich.

“And not a thought to the ashes behind you, or the trees that’ll soon be few?”

And Mr. Rich got a grin.

A wicked grin. A vile grin. A diabolical, verminous, lice-in-the-mane grin. A grin so oily it could oil the gears that turned in his head, the gears that ground out the terrible answer to his terrible problem.

“There’s too many Zap Apples on the market,” said Filthy Rich slowly, “For supply and demand to meet... supply has to cark it.”

And Filthy Rich gathered the machine’s fuel supply and together we worked to spread it far and wide. Through the night we drove our Tree-Tumblers through the forest, pouring out oil. Filthy was laughing with every soaked tree. He had madness in his eyes and I knew I should leave. I knew it in my head as well as my heart; if I stayed for much longer I would go much too far.

But I wasn’t a brave pony that particular night. I had excuses a plenty, as you already know. That Mr. Rich would do it anyway, that he’d hur t himself if I wasn’t around, that there was no reason why his plan couldn’t work, no reason why his plan shouldn’t work. But in the end it was friendship, again. I didn’t want to let him down, ma’am, the pony who’d been nice to me, and given me a job and hope and respect. The pony who hadn’t commented on my eye or called me a klutz or a ditz. So I worked for Mr. Rich.

And in the morning he set the forest ablaze.

Monsters fled the fire in all directions. A dragon ran through Ponyville, and a hydra trampled Hoofington. All the locked-up madcreatures were suddenly set free to roam and made free to roam. Could see it from Canterlot, could see it from across Equestria.

And Filthy Rich, covered in smoke and covered in ash, came by the Brothers Flim Flam with his Zap Apple stash.

“Looks like your business just went up in smoke,” said Filthy, “But, tell you what, why don’t we talk about hope?”

There was no regrets in his eyes or in his mind, he made his quick bundle and left Ponyville behind. He gave me a bonus and said his good-byes, and he parted with that gleam still sure in his eyes.

That’s my story, ma’am. That’s how I burned down the Everfree for somepony else’s dream. That’s how I became a rich pony. That’s how I got what I wanted.

But ma’am...

I never forgot it when you said that you spoke for the trees. And I never asked the question of how you speak when there’s no trees left to speak for. I never really thought to realise that to get my wish I’d have to step on the wishes of other ponies. And I never realised how ugly fifty square miles of ash and stumps really are.

Sun don’t shine any more, ma’am. It’s just the smoke here. Moon don’t shine neither, or at least, not that you can see. Just tree stumps and the trash of stepped-upon dreams.

I still don’t know what went wrong, ma’am, but I know for that I didn’t do right. I followed him on because it was the easy way out. The way of not thinking and not deciding.

I could have done better. I could have stood up. I could have done something, but now...

... but now it’s not too late.

Don’t you see, ma’am Zecora? I was about to make the same mistake again! I was going to say that I’d lost and give up! I was going to say that it was too late!

It’s not too late. It’s never too late. It’s always a good time to be a better pony.

I’ve broke a lot of things, and hurt a lot of ponies. But I can make it up.

I’ll make it so that you can come home.

Someday.”


Quoted to read, but probably won't be able to get you feedback before submission time. Time to flee/fly!

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SiuiS
2012-02-18, 04:49 PM
Thanqol; love it. No, it's not your best. But it exceeds the minimum standards for good in its particular category by a wide margin. Only found one typo.


That Mr. Rich would do it anyway, that he’d hur t himself if I wasn’t around, that there was no reason why his plan couldn’t work, no reason why his plan shouldn’t work


While I'm sure the mass violently explosive intestinal dispersion spell sounds like loads of fun, I should point out that my wish doesn't actually require that a spell effects you. I wished to see the results of the spell, not the spell itself. There are other ways to reach that end if reality is warping itself. For example, you could accidentally imitate the results of the spell through a series of seemingly unrelated events. Or, you could go along willingly...

Or he finds the outdated video software and well-spliced clips with smarmy sound that look like someone on his ship was making an AMV of himself and Lic being all relationship-y, before he hillariously bonks Hopereaver in her dome and sets her right. Then he could show you the fancy hologram of himself being cute wih Lix without either of the. Actually having done so.

Course, then Hopereaver is gonna get mad at her crewmen for setting her up like that. I mean, Hopereaver herself being a 'shipper? Long odds, amirite?

-

And I haven't had time for new episode, so I guess it's so log, farewell, until later, aye?

AlterForm
2012-02-18, 04:49 PM
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(Same)
This should totally wind up as one of Pinkie's Supers/Specials in Mane 6.

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 04:59 PM
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I must go, to return to my home planet!

PINKIE PIE DIED ON HER RETURN HOME

But seriously, wow.

Where's her Ultra I?

DarkReaper1382
2012-02-18, 05:14 PM
First of all, as I believe I may have occasionally mentioned, IMMUNE. TO. MIND.-AFFECTING. EFFECTS.

Second of all, it's so very noble of you all to volenteer to undergo the mind-splintering, soul-shattering and really quite excruciating agony of being the test victims of my new Mass Violently Explosive Intestinal Dispersion spell.

Explosions?
No Krosis not the kind you want or wait is it? Never mind that we've got bigger problems,
1) Bronies haters have discovered the origin of my ponified teacher hung on the wall
It lead to people going to the hospital
Hey not my fault, if someone sneaks up on me kicks me in the thigh screaming "bronies suck!" and he winds up with 2 cracked ribs and a bloody/broken nose it really can't be my fault, can it?
Maybe, I think explosives would have worked better
2) Final Maretasy isn't done yet
3) Fighting is magic isn't done yet
4) We haven't blown anything up in the past 24 hours
That's bad really really bad
5)I don't have anything worthy of a signature, my posts look so bare can anyone help?

6)And lastly, I need ideas for characters in my fanfic so if you could send me a name, quick description, picture if possible, and what side you would like them to be on Sith, Jedi, Bounty hunter, Outer rim gang, or Freelancer
Any ideas would be great thanks a lot!

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 05:17 PM
6)And lastly, I need ideas for characters in my fanfic so if you could send me a name, quick description, picture if possible, and what side you would like them to be on Sith, Jedi, Bounty hunter, Outer rim gang, or Freelancer
Any ideas would be great thanks a lot!

Get me a darkish black-purple Sith pegusi with a fondness of whiping up hostile storm clouds in places that they normaly could never be made in, such as, say, a hallway. May or may not be able to completely cover himself in the clouds while flying with force lighting contrails. Names Rasil.

Aotrs Commander
2012-02-18, 05:27 PM
Phew. And we're done with the panto for another year... The Saturday is always the most draining day (two performances, which is why I've been more quiet than usual on all fronts). Rousing success as always.

Especially this year's shocking twist - the witches' henchman, evil tax collector Clump (i.e. me, unusually enough not being the main bad guy for once ) turned out to be - *gasp* - the good Prince, ensorcelled! (That's a first in twenty-one years...!1)

And I have recieved my customary reward of Chocolate.

So now I can collapse in a drained stupor (because Undead are not completely immune to mental exhasution!) and go and watch Pony.

Responces and reactions later...



1While I haven't played the villain in all those years - since I started at eleven - in the years before I took that role, I tended to play supporting cast or neutrals - I've never been a proper good guy before! Stretching my boundaries clearly...!

(Oh, and it was Hansel and Gretel, before you ask, so no, there wasn't any shipping involved; I remind you there people know me all too welll!)

Diego Havoc
2012-02-18, 05:28 PM
...bonks Hopereaver in her dome and sets her right...
Not saying anything. Just felt like quoting that out of context.

Pony tax:
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Thanqol
2012-02-18, 05:57 PM
Second, I like the perspective, but it's really hard to imagine this in Derpy's voice. It's too... well-spoken, I suppose. It also, for some reason, reminded me of John Coffey from the Green Mile (the movie, at least, haven't read the novel), or Lennie from Of Mice and Men. Maybe that is why I can't imagine it in Derpy's voice, because that's not quite how I imagine Derpy. Would probably take a lot of time and effort to change this, so I'm just noting it because it was a constant thought while reading that something was off about it.

It is impossible to write an entire story like this in Derpy's canon voice, so I opted to not even try.

Thanks everypony for the assist, I'll give it an editing pass after I get back from work today.


New Episode, speculation!!!
You know, suddenly I think this explains Pinkie Sense!:smalleek:

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense is based on a Sherlock Holmesian level of memory, attention to details and deductive power, only unlike him Pinkie's is subconscious. Everywhere she goes she picks up on everything, every little detail, and her mind just subconsciously chugs away creating connections between it all. And when all these connections lead to some realization, her tail twitches or something else. She can predict the future simply through brain power, and it's a good enough prediction that it's usually true.

You're right, actually. Huh. Pinkie has really high Intelligence (mental power) and relatively low Wits (mental finesse). This is consistent across past experience and has me thinking about really intelligent characters in a remarkably new way. Thank you for pointing this out!


I ... um ... I ...

I'll get back to you on this one, I have to think about it.

If you're wondering why you value thinking, thinking isn't going to give you the answer. A system can't comprehend it's own limits. You've got to experience not thinking. Go for a run around the block, focus on action/reaction. Let your body and not your mind give you the answer.

Episode:

Slick episode. Even though I'm still not a fan of Pinkie Pie, this was a good execution. I was going to get all deep on you all, but I'll instead focus on the reality

- I'm still listening to the song on repeat
- I'm still smiling.

I think that's my review.

the_druid_droid
2012-02-18, 06:13 PM
Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

I'm sorry to hear this, Ronin. I'll definitely be thinking of you and your family in the days to come.


New Episode, speculation!!!
You know, suddenly I think this explains Pinkie Sense!:smalleek:

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense is based on a Sherlock Holmesian level of memory, attention to details and deductive power, only unlike him Pinkie's is subconscious. Everywhere she goes she picks up on everything, every little detail, and her mind just subconsciously chugs away creating connections between it all. And when all these connections lead to some realization, her tail twitches or something else. She can predict the future simply through brain power, and it's a good enough prediction that it's usually true.

This is actually a pretty good theory...I think I'm gonna call this my fanon until something challenges it!


are these things made to order, or is the pony fandom just that prolific?

The second one


Agreed. I don't mind additional submissions to the name-pool, but let the thread decide.


Yeah, it did kind of come out of nowhere.


Phew. And we're done with the panto for another year... The Saturday is always the most draining day (two performances, which is why I've been more quiet than usual on all fronts). Rousing success as always.

Especially this year's shocking twist - the witches' henchman, evil tax collector Clump (i.e. me, unusually enough not being the main bad guy for once ) turned out to be - *gasp* - the good Prince, ensorcelled! (That's a first in twenty-one years...!1)

And I have recieved my customary reward of Chocolate.

So now I can collapse in a drained stupor (because Undead are not completely immune to mental exhasution!) and go and watch Pony.

Responces and reactions later...



1While I haven't played the villain in all those years - since I started at eleven - in the years before I took that role, I tended to play supporting cast or neutrals - I've never been a proper good guy before! Stretching my boundaries clearly...!

(Oh, and it was Hansel and Gretel, before you ask, so no, there wasn't any shipping involved; I remind you there people know me all too welll!)

Congratulations! A part of me kind of wonders what the whole thing was like, but unless someone Youtubed it, I suppose I won't ever know...

New Episode:
Personally, I really enjoyed this one! The song was of course a lot of fun, and the feel of it being a large-scale musical number was nice.

Did anyone else notice that there was quite a bit of Lyra and Bon Bon togetherness in the background of the song?

Cranky Doodle...heh, nice one

Pinkie's brain being felt board really kind of explains a lot

CDD is growing on me, and definitely reminding me of Up <.<

I'm enjoying that they're bringing back/fleshing out the presence of other quadrupeds in Equestria. I remember that was a big topic for discussion during the first season and over the summer.

"Let's be Wagon Buddies!"

So many Pinkie songs!

Hmm, the "stomping the toupee" gag; that one's a classic, aye

Derpy's flying in the snowglobe! I love the animators!

Dash is reading! Hmm, TwiDash fuel for the shippers? Loving the continuity in any case!

Pinkie, where did you get those extra hooves?

The B&W Gala scene is kind of sweet, and in some ways this episode feels more romantic than Hearts and Hooves. Kind of ironic, really.

vegetalss4
2012-02-18, 06:14 PM
New Episode, speculation!!!
You know, suddenly I think this explains Pinkie Sense!:smalleek:

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense is based on a Sherlock Holmesian level of memory, attention to details and deductive power, only unlike him Pinkie's is subconscious. Everywhere she goes she picks up on everything, every little detail, and her mind just subconsciously chugs away creating connections between it all. And when all these connections lead to some realization, her tail twitches or something else. She can predict the future simply through brain power, and it's a good enough prediction that it's usually true.



Oh, I like that theory. Someone contact Twilight, quickly! She'll want to know so that we can subject it to empirical testing. Get the hidden cameras set up throughout all of Ponyville, that sort of thing.



New Ep Speculation Not-Quite-Spoilers

I like this theory. Pinkie Pie just has a massive level of spatial awareness and attention to detail. She's aware of everything going on around her even if she isn't consciously aware of it. Then the tail twitches and eye flutters are just a result of her brain firing off almost random signals caused by the increased mental activity.

...Does this mean that Pinkie has access to a larger portion of her brain than most ponies?



YAY!
That is one of my favorite bits of personal headcanon and I cannot express how happy I am to see it spread.
The best part is how it explains so much Pinkie does even from the very first episode of the first season.
Her incredibly fast, but still reasonable if you follow them trains of thoughts, why she can pull a the correct book and page with a needed spell just by having seeing it for a second as it fell on her, her apparent hyperness as the world moves to slowly for her head.

Deadly
2012-02-18, 06:14 PM
It is impossible to write an entire story like this in Derpy's canon voice, so I opted to not even try.

Won't argue with that. Derpy is hard enough in general, in first-person it's no doubt worse. That said, I think my problem here is more the association I get with other characters from other stories, which is probably just me. Perhaps it's the many "ma'am"s in particular


You're right, actually. Huh. Pinkie has really high Intelligence (mental power) and relatively low Wits (mental finesse). This is consistent across past experience and has me thinking about really intelligent characters in a remarkably new way. Thank you for pointing this out!

You're welcome :)

Lix Lorn
2012-02-18, 06:17 PM
(Oh, and it was Hansel and Gretel, before you ask, so no, there wasn't any shipping involved; I remind you there people know me all too welll!)
...since when does Hansel and Gretel have a prince and an evil tax collector? xD

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 06:17 PM
YAY!
That is one of my favorite bits of personal headcanon and I cannot express how happy I am to see it spread.
The best part is how it explains so much Pinkie does even from the very first episode of the first season.
Her incredibly fast, but still reasonable if you follow them trains of thoughts, why she can pull a the correct book and page with a needed spell just by having seeing it for a second as it fell on her, the her apparent hyperness as the world moves to slowly for her head.

Makes me wonder if the Rainboom would simply be a trigger or the cause.


...since when does Hansel and Gretel have a prince and an evil tax collector? xD

Its the Speilburg version. :smalltongue:

Aotrs Commander
2012-02-18, 06:24 PM
New Episode reactions:

Well, that was jolly. Not one of the best episodes, but not a bad one nontheless. Not much to say, other that it's interesting to see donkeys and cows again. Good song.

Yay, Zecora cameo.

Derpy in the snow-globe...? Why I am not surprised...?

Ha, RD has fallen right into this reading lark, ain't she?

And there are going to be so many new Pinkie emotes, aren't there...?

Right, thread catch-up time...

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 06:34 PM
Episode:

Slick episode. Even though I'm still not a fan of Pinkie Pie, this was a good execution. I was going to get all deep on you all, but I'll instead focus on the reality

- I'm still listening to the song on repeat
- I'm still smiling.

I think that's my review.

New Ep

I've been listening to that song for about 5-5.5 hours now. It still isn't getting old, and is still making me stupidly happy. I'm not sure if it's because Pinkie is my favourite pony and it's awesome to have an entire song devoted to why she's my favourite or if it's the upbeat tempo of the song or what it is, but the song is seriously serving it's purpose of making me smile. Daniel Ingram is a freaking genius and this is now my favourite song. Such happy visuals too, with all the ponies bouncing along the rooftops and especially the "Happy friends of mine" chorus.


Won't argue with that. Derpy is hard enough in general, in first-person it's no doubt worse. That said, I think my problem here is more the association I get with other characters from other stories, which is probably just me. Perhaps it's the many "ma'am"s in particular


Thanqol's Story

I'd just like to say that personally I loved the constant "ma'am"s. I was picturing Derpy actually doing that and it made me chuckle, made the entire story seem a lot lighter than it would be otherwise.



YAY!
That is one of my favorite bits of personal headcanon and I cannot express how happy I am to see it spread.
The best part is how it explains so much Pinkie does even from the very first episode of the first season.
Her incredibly fast, but still reasonable if you follow them trains of thoughts, why she can pull a the correct book and page with a needed spell just by having seeing it for a second as it fell on her, her apparent hyperness as the world moves to slowly for her head.

New Ep

Huh. I had forgotten about the parts with the books and spells. You worked out some really good headcanon with so little to go on there. So Pinkie's clearly a high Wis low Int character. She picks up on every little detail but has a hard time interpreting it all properly. (IE Cranky just wants to be left alone, it's NOT time to play with the babies, Rainbow Dash clearly doesn't want to hear about the awesome cider, etc)


And finally...
New Ep

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Pokonic
2012-02-18, 06:37 PM
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Derpception?

Soras Teva Gee
2012-02-18, 06:42 PM
And finally...
New Ep

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Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 06:45 PM
Derpception?

DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP

And a quick Google search reveals:

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/653f5d7e8386d06e80fa70d3e42e0053/49917%20-%20duplicate%20inception%20parody%20ponificed%20po nyception%20poster%20rariquest%20rarity.jpg

Eakin
2012-02-18, 06:51 PM
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERP

And a quick Google search reveals:

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/653f5d7e8386d06e80fa70d3e42e0053/49917%20-%20duplicate%20inception%20parody%20ponificed%20po nyception%20poster%20rariquest%20rarity.jpg

Heh, I really miss the Roamin' Rarity meme

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 06:56 PM
Derpception

We must go derper.

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 07:08 PM
We must go derper.

I bestow upon your one Derpy Point.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/122/114/130232443562.gif?1305073704

Treasure it. And please, keep a total.

Aotrs Commander
2012-02-18, 07:25 PM
First of all, I saw the post this morning, but with all the kerfuffle, I wanted to leave until I was awake and of clear-mind before responding.

RoninHiroX, let me offer my deepest condolences for your loss. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers already.



New episode:
I think perhaps my less-rousing-than-everyone else's commendations might perhaps stem somewhat from exhaustion, as everyone raised points I'd forgotten by the time I came to post. Pinkie's felt-animation thoughts, for example.

I'm still going with Pinkie just being psionic. Total recall and enhanced perception are just part of the package...




Or he finds the outdated video software and well-spliced clips with smarmy sound that look like someone on his ship was making an AMV of himself and Lic being all relationship-y, before he hillariously bonks Hopereaver in her dome and sets her right. Then he could show you the fancy hologram of himself being cute wih Lix without either of the. Actually having done so.

Course, then Hopereaver is gonna get mad at her crewmen for setting her up like that. I mean, Hopereaver herself being a 'shipper? Long odds, amirite?

Hopereaver, if this pans out, tomorrow, I am going to hurt you in ways you cannot concieve. If I were you, I would spend the grace period of tonight ensuring that it does not.

*gulp* Getting right on that chief!




...since when does Hansel and Gretel have a prince and an evil tax collector? xD

Because it is written by people who have met me, and conspired with me1 in writing some of the scripts when my family took over running the panto seven or so years ago. (My sister directed this year, taking over from Mum, who has directed in since.) And thus, basic things like plot-holes are addressed...

I didn't have a hand in writing it this time (I haven't for a year or three now), but the chap that does thinks in slightly similar lines...

Stripped of the humour, the basic plot was actually quite clever. The evil witch wanted a child for the feast (because this is a children's show based on a fairy tale, and thus requires some requiste implied nastiness, because kids eat that stuff up!) So, she basically mind-controlled the Prince and had him "move away." The pivotal part of her plan was an enchantment that fogged everyone's memories (starting with the forest she lived in, even affecting the local fairy druid2 and her animal companions, and spreading out, so that no-one could clearly remember what life had been like before she came to the village. She married into the family of Sam Woodman (Hansel and Gretel's father), rather suddenly. She then sent "Clump" (the Prince) around as the tax-collector, with ever-increasing amount of rent. (Up 15% over the course of the panto itself.) Using this position, she was to instigate a scheme whereby the "prince" (through Clump) would allow the villagers to send their children into the forest in lieu of paying the ever-increasing and exorbitant rent (where, of course, she could capture them).

She used her position in Sam Woodman's family (with him wrapped around her little finger, him being of a Fluttershy-ish sort of nature, as it were) to try to cajoule the poor fellow into sending Hansel and Gretel off into the woods (as she'd already spent all his money, leaving him very poor, and by far the worst off in the village.) (Tacicitly, this was helped by more magic, as well, clouding his normal parental judgement.) He resisted until the very last straw, when (co-incidentally) officials came around, to demolish the village to make way for a new bypass (and it turned out Sam's cottage was he only one that was actually not a business, historical monument or subject to other legislation). And at this point, of course, Hansel and Gretel encounter the witch in her other disguise, and were nearly eaten, save for the local fairy druid showing up to distract the witch long enough for her mask - which held all her power - to be destroyed in her oven, thus breaking all her spells and freeing every one's memories.

That is the basic plot, leaving aside all the jokes. As you can see, it's actually practically worthy as a quest plot-line with only minor modifications! We take our panto plot-cohesion quite seriously!

Even if absolutely nothing else...



So, sometime after the weekend, I may even have scraped together enough cogniscent function to resume more normal operations, and deal with all the things I've left hanging (i.e. Prince's lichification, retribution on Kyouhen etc etc etc).



1Okay, I didn't write much for the panto, though for a year or two I did write a good couple of my own scenes and lines, and the occasional pun-laden minor scene as well...!

2Spellcaster, lives in a forest, talks to animals, has five animal companions; totally a druid.

Jahkaivah
2012-02-18, 07:28 PM
Episode Thoughts:

This episode should have been about Pinkie Pie's adventure with Cranky Doodle in his flying balloon house as a promise to his long lost somepony. As they do battle with an old explorer pony leading an army of Diamond Dogs in fighter planes.



New Episode, speculation!!!
You know, suddenly I think this explains Pinkie Sense!:smalleek:

Pinkie's Pinkie Sense is based on a Sherlock Holmesian level of memory, attention to details and deductive power, only unlike him Pinkie's is subconscious. Everywhere she goes she picks up on everything, every little detail, and her mind just subconsciously chugs away creating connections between it all. And when all these connections lead to some realization, her tail twitches or something else. She can predict the future simply through brain power, and it's a good enough prediction that it's usually true.

I know you're an apple farmer and you've been invalided home from Appaloosa. I know you've got a brother who's worried about you, but you won't go to him for help because you don't approve of him—possibly because he's an alcoholic, more likely because he recently walked out on his special somepony. And I know that your therapist thinks your limp's psychosomatic, quite correctly I'm afraid. That's enough to be going on with, don't you think?

The name's Pinkie Pie and the address is Sugarcube Corner Baker Street. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g2qJF-4yWM#t=0m14s)

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 07:35 PM
Because it is written by people who have met me, and conspired with me1 in writing some of the scripts when my family took over running the panto seven or so years ago. (My sister directed this year, taking over from Mum, who has directed in since.) And thus, basic things like plot-holes are addressed...

I didn't have a hand in writing it this time (I haven't for a year or three now), but the chap that does thinks in slightly similar lines...

Stripped of the humour, the basic plot was actually quite clever. The evil witch wanted a child for the feast (because this is a children's show based on a fairy tale, and thus requires some requiste implied nastiness, because kids eat that stuff up!) So, she basically mind-controlled the Prince and had him "move away." The pivotal part of her plan was an enchantment that fogged everyone's memories (starting with the forest she lived in, even affecting the local fairy druid2 and her animal companions, and spreading out, so that no-one could clearly remember what life had been like before she came to the village. She married into the family of Sam Woodman (Hansel and Gretel's father), rather suddenly. She then sent "Clump" (the Prince) around as the tax-collector, with ever-increasing amount of rent. (Up 15% over the course of the panto itself.) Using this position, she was to instigate a scheme whereby the "prince" (through Clump) would allow the villagers to send their children into the forest in lieu of paying the ever-increasing and exorbitant rent (where, of course, she could capture them).

She used her position in Sam Woodman's family (with him wrapped around her little finger, him being of a Fluttershy-ish sort of nature, as it were) to try to cajoule the poor fellow into sending Hansel and Gretel off into the woods (as she'd already spent all his money, leaving him very poor, and by far the worst off in the village.) (Tacicitly, this was helped by more magic, as well, clouding his normal parental judgement.) He resisted until the very last straw, when (co-incidentally) officials came around, to demolish the village to make way for a new bypass (and it turned out Sam's cottage was he only one that was actually not a business, historical monument or subject to other legislation). And at this point, of course, Hansel and Gretel encounter the witch in her other disguise, and were nearly eaten, save for the local fairy druid showing up to distract the witch long enough for her mask - which held all her power - to be destroyed in her oven, thus breaking all her spells and freeing every one's memories.

That is the basic plot, leaving aside all the jokes. As you can see, it's actually practically worthy as a quest plot-line with only minor modifications! We take our panto plot-cohesion quite seriously!

Even if absolutely nothing else...



So, sometime after the weekend, I may even have scraped together enough cogniscent function to resume more normal operations, and deal with all the things I've left hanging (i.e. Prince's lichification, retribution on Kyouhen etc etc etc).



1Okay, I didn't write much for the panto, though for a year or two I did write a good couple of my own scenes and lines, and the occasional pun-laden minor scene as well...!

2Spellcaster, lives in a forest, talks to animals, has five animal companions; totally a druid.

That's actually a pretty interesting and overly complicated story. I remember the good old days when witches were evil because they were jerks and they sat around waiting for idiots to wander into their houses. Things were so much simpler back then. :smalltongue:

maximus25
2012-02-18, 07:39 PM
Heh, I really miss the Roamin' Rarity meme

It was pretty funny. I have some backgrounds with Roamin' Rarity.

Selpharia
2012-02-18, 07:41 PM
Re: Pinkie's Int and Wis
perceptiveness in a social sense, like with the baby Cakes or Cranky would probably be within the domain of Wisdom. The ability to absorb new information quickly would fall under Intelligence, with Wisdom informing what exactly to do with divining the meaning of that information, which is where she usually fails. For example, Pinkie's misunderstanding her friends' intent in Party of One is probably a series of failed Sense Motive(Wis) checks against her friends' Bluff checks. Pinkie most likely has great perceptive abilities because of skill ranks, rather than ability bonuses. A relatively high Int (and the bard class, incidentally) would give her the bonus skill points to spread around to perceptive skills as well as Craft: party or Perform: cartoon buffoonery

And I'm ninja'd five times over


@Thanqol Re: the Zecorax

I read your Derpy story a bit ago, so my recollection may not be clear, I have a couple issues with it. It seems odd that no one with prodigious magical power attempted to stop the burning before it consumed everything. Also, Filthy Rich doesn't strike me as the type to destroy such a large amount of everything on hat is essentially for him, an extra project on top of his main source of revenue. He struck me as perhaps a bit ruthless in business competition, but basically a decent and considerate person, in contrast to the predatory scammers Flim and Flam. Also, he seems attached to Ponyville, since he actually lives there, as has his entire family; he even has a filly who has spent her entire life there. Maybe I'm totally off base, and the characters serve a consistent purpose regardless.

Also, you may want to make the anti-monster machine bigger, I see no way it's big enough to hamper an Ursa Major or similarly sized creature as presently described. Since you want to end on a hopeful note, perhaps take a cue from the original story of the Lorax, and have Derpy beginning to plant Zap Apple tree seeds as a more direct invocation of hope than her unsubstantiated promise. I don't know how useful this is for you, but that's what I thought. Liked the concept overall though

Jahkaivah
2012-02-18, 07:53 PM
Oh and one last thing:


Season 2:

Episode 7: Song
Episode 8: No song
Episode 9: Song
Episode 10: No song
Episode 11: Song
Episode 12: No song
Episode 13: Song
Episode 14: No song
Episode 15: Song
Episode 16: No song
Episode 17: Song
Episode 18: Song

NO NO NO

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT


GODDAMNIT


YOU BROKE THE PATTERN

YOU BROKE THE PATTERN PINKIE

Rebelhero
2012-02-18, 07:56 PM
Derpception?

Wait.... Does this mean Equestria is inside a snowglobe?! On the flank on another derpy?!
*head'splode*

Aotrs Commander
2012-02-18, 07:58 PM
That's actually a pretty interesting and overly complicated story. I remember the good old days when witches were evil because they were jerks and they sat around waiting for idiots to wander into their houses. Things were so much simpler back then. :smalltongue:

Of course, the bare bones were covered by a lot of the general panto-ness, silliness and jokes, but the point is, if you looked at the basic plot, it made sense; it wasn't lazily written just because it was a panto! A fact I'm very proud of!

It also allowed things like the fact that the father didn't have to painted as a heartless would-be child-murderer (as in the fairy tale) - all the better for the happy ending - and facilitated the plot-twist of me being the Prince. Which was, as I say, a genuine twist, (bigger than Hansel and Gretel's wicked step-mother being the evil witch) because by now, everyone expects from me to be the bad guy, so it was a geniunely out-of-the-blue surprise for all our regulars!

(Though one you could concievably have guessed, given the prince's rent demands were all delivered through Clump and no-one could remember what the Prince looked like ("He was a great big tall little chap with blond black hair and a ginger beard. No, wait a minute – that can’t be right.") and Clump was seen meeting and being subserviant to the witch. The clues were there, but, of course, with this being a panto, you tend not to concentrate so much on the plot - because, like, it's a panto.)

The fridge-cleverness of the plot (if you'll forgive my paraphrasing of the tropes) was just background, really. It didn't matter if you never thought about it, the fact it was there made all of the nit-pickers among the group feel better!



(All our pantos tend to be a bit like that. We're sort of quite popular, for a small and entirely amateur crowd. The fact we've been doing it for years does help rather, even if I'm now the joint veteran for doing it the longest at this stage. Even if I do say so myself, we're actually quite good at it!)



Also, there needs to be more Popeye/Pony references.

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/048/e/f/double_time_by_niban_destikim-d4q362q.jpg

Triscuitable
2012-02-18, 08:02 PM
Oh and one last thing:


Season 2:

Episode 7: Song
Episode 8: No song
Episode 9: Song
Episode 10: No song
Episode 11: Song
Episode 12: No song
Episode 13: Song
Episode 14: No song
Episode 15: Song
Episode 16: No song
Episode 17: Song
Episode 18: Song

NO NO NO

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT


GODDAMNIT


YOU BROKE THE PATTERN

YOU BROKE THE PATTERN PINKIE


We've damned enough gods to know there's not nearly that many in Equestria.

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 08:07 PM
Wait.... Does this mean Equestria is inside a snowglobe?! On the flank on another derpy?!
*head'splode*

Nah, its contained on the flank of the Derpus Major, which in turn is inside the Derpus Ultra, which is in turn on the flank on the Derpus Bombastus Fantasticus Maximus, which is found on the flank of one Derpy Hooves if you look close at her cuti mark with a very, very strong microscope.


Note: If I ever become a rapper, my new name would be Fantasticus.

HalfTangible
2012-02-18, 08:18 PM
Am i the only one who ISN'T annoyed by the fact that there are all these random songs that all seem to start within 5 minutes into the episode?!

Eakin
2012-02-18, 08:18 PM
Wait.... Does this mean Equestria is inside a snowglobe?! On the flank on another derpy?!
*head'splode*

That's the final reveal of the series! Just like St. Elsewhere!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/d2db19a3ae4accde24cf8ff5f30b1fc3/74603%20-%20artist%3Aswaetshrit%20Clyde%20comic%20granny_pi e%20parody%20pinkamena_diane_pie%20pinkie_pie%20po nified%20spike%20st._elsewhere%20twilight_sparkle. jpg

great, now I'm sad. Time to spend another hour looping

Smile Smile Smile

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 08:21 PM
Am i the only one who ISN'T annoyed by the fact that there are all these random songs that all seem to start within 5 minutes into the episode?!

Are you kidding? Smile Smile Smile has consumed my last five waking hours!

TheAmishPirate
2012-02-18, 08:21 PM
New Episode thoughts:


This episode was interesting for me. I feel like it's really, really close to being a top episode. I shouldn't even need to talk about the song at this point, so worth the wait. The premise was interesting, and I honestly didn't see the resolution coming. Always a plus in my book.

And then there was a dip in the ending. It's not that I didn't like how the problem was resolved. It's the scene right before that, when she's trying to apologize. They went with a traditional Pinkie slapstick cartoon nonsense ending, when I feel like they would've done better showing Pinkie as more sincere, and less over-the-top happy. Show that she really had to stop and think and change her approach. That's what the lesson was, wasn't it? That not all friendships are the same, and each needs a different treatment. I'd have rather seen Pinkie learn and apply that lesson, rather than get another scene played for laughs.

Also: "Did you see the note I left you?"
"No, I didn't see it."
-Such a minor irk, but I'd rather he said "No, I didn't see a note."

With all that said, I still enjoyed the episode, and I'll be listening to that song forever. I just feel like handling the ending a tad differently would have made this episode even better.


Also, a non-spoiler link from an Ask blog. (http://askaquilinus.tumblr.com/post/17805269399)

RdMarquis
2012-02-18, 08:27 PM
Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.

Oh, my. I'm so sorry to hear that. You and your family will be in my thoughts.


Episode:2nd impression:
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/049/c/8/pinkie_the_menace_by_robd2003-d4q4u02.jpg


Hehe, I love this. :smallbiggrin:


New Ep

http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/6b0a44fd66739250b24f5ce5c17d4c8b/134256%20-%20crazy_legs%20pinkie_physics%20pinkie_pie%20scre en_cap.PNG
Pinkie Pie confirmed for daughter of Loki. :smalleek:


But is she actually Slepnir, or his sister? Also, on one hand, having Pinkie as a mount would probably ensure that Odin won't be intimidating anyone ever again. :smalltongue: On the other, she might feed Fenrir enough sweets that the wolf would be too full to eat him.


Oh, by the by, they also put up a new episode synopsis for the one airing on March 17th.

Episode: Dragon Quest
Air Date: March 17, 2012)
Synopsis: Spike joins the Great Dragon Migration to discover his true identity, but it might not be what he really needs.

Premise sounds pretty cool, and the lesson is going to probably be something about appreciating the things you already have. If they somehow manage to work in a reference to the Dragon Quest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest) game series in the actual episode, my life would be complete.

Sweet. :smallbiggrin: The staff must be fans of old school RPGs.


Ronin, I'm sorry for your loss. Just wanted to say that before moving on to anything else.

Episode thoughts:It started strong, and was still good throughout most of it, but for a moment I dared hope that Pinkie was going to have to suffer the consequences of her actions. Alas, it was not to be. Touching someone else's property without their permission is not nice. Continuing to do so after being asked specifically not to is horrible. Continuing to do so out of their presence and then destroying someone else's things is absolutely despicable. It would be bad if it were an accident, but Pinkie was almost going out of her way to break something. That it's all alright if you interfere in their life further and further until something goes right is not a lesson I would ever want to give anyone. It just drags the whole episode down for me knowing that Pinkie was allowed to ruin someone's life just because she eventually managed to kind of fix it. What if she didn't find the exact thing in all of Equestria that could have made up for it? What if Cranky had stuck to his (at this point more than sensible) plan of just making Pinkie go away? Sometimes you should take a hint, and sometimes you should learn to not be a complete... a complete... I don't even know (and if I did I might not be able to say it here!). Pinkie's behaviour was just appalling.

Sorry for going all serious, but that just touches a nerve.

New episode
I'd have to agree with that. Hyperactive and destructive characters, even if they do mean well, are high on the list of reasons I'm turned off by most cartoons these days. It's disappointing to see that on an episode of MLP. I liked the episode, but that scene where Pinkie was tossing his stuff around annoyed me a little.

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 08:34 PM
But is she actually Slepnir, or his sister? Also, on one hand, having Pinkie as a mount would probably ensure that Odin won't be intimidating anyone ever again. :smalltongue: On the other, she might feed Fenrir enough sweets that the wolf would be too full to eat him.


Nah, she was sent to look after the Thor pony that appeared a few episodes ago in a joint effort by Odin and Loki. As you can tell, the transition from servent of the gods too colorful equine was a mit hard on the poor girls brain. :smallsmile:

TheAmishPirate
2012-02-18, 08:38 PM
Not new episode, but gosh darn it I wish it was:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T79GNXNs2h8/T0Aa_RQ-sDI/AAAAAAAAfjg/TbPqILHpaeQ/s1600/134115+-+cake+pinkie_pie+sea_pony+shoo-be-doo.jpg

HalfTangible
2012-02-18, 08:41 PM
Are you kidding? Smile Smile Smile has consumed my last five waking hours!

No, I'm not. Smile smile smile just annoys the heck out of me.

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 08:43 PM
Not new episode, but gosh darn it I wish it was:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T79GNXNs2h8/T0Aa_RQ-sDI/AAAAAAAAfjg/TbPqILHpaeQ/s1600/134115+-+cake+pinkie_pie+sea_pony+shoo-be-doo.jpg

.... I want a bigger fish tank.

Eakin
2012-02-18, 08:50 PM
No, I'm not. Smile smile smile just annoys the heck out of me.

Gonna have to say I disagree. I gave in to the leak about two months ago, and I still think SSS is the best official song released thus far. Yes, better than Winter Wrap Up. Yes, better than Art of the Dress. Best. Official. Song.

I can't wait for the remixes! I just hope my fellow bronies who are musically inclined have put the several months when it's been unofficially available to good use.

EDIT: I went back to Art of the Dress to make sure it wasn't just the novelty seducing me. A click or two through the "related videos" section and... Captain Jack starred in the Sondheim musical number that inspired it?

Tiki Snakes
2012-02-18, 09:02 PM
That's the final reveal of the series! Just like St. Elsewhere!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/d2db19a3ae4accde24cf8ff5f30b1fc3/74603%20-%20artist%3Aswaetshrit%20Clyde%20comic%20granny_pi e%20parody%20pinkamena_diane_pie%20pinkie_pie%20po nified%20spike%20st._elsewhere%20twilight_sparkle. jpg

great, now I'm sad. Time to spend another hour looping

Smile Smile Smile


:smallconfused:
Uh, I'm not exactly an expert or anything, but I'm not sure that's at all how Autism works. At least, that would explain why Grandma Pie doesn't understand it?

Episode New
Good episode was good. Not much to add, really. Cranky kind of carried it a tiny bit for me, because he was just generally so awesome. I liked the bit where Twilight was handling Pinkie with kid-gloves but Rainbow wasn't, particularly.

I wouldn't say Smile Smile Smile was a favourite song, though. It was ok, but there are others I prefer.

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 09:07 PM
Re: Pinkie's Int and Wis
perceptiveness in a social sense, like with the baby Cakes or Cranky would probably be within the domain of Wisdom. The ability to absorb new information quickly would fall under Intelligence, with Wisdom informing what exactly to do with divining the meaning of that information, which is where she usually fails. For example, Pinkie's misunderstanding her friends' intent in Party of One is probably a series of failed Sense Motive(Wis) checks against her friends' Bluff checks. Pinkie most likely has great perceptive abilities because of skill ranks, rather than ability bonuses. A relatively high Int (and the bard class, incidentally) would give her the bonus skill points to spread around to perceptive skills as well as Craft: party or Perform: cartoon buffoonery

And I'm ninja'd five times over



Int vs Wis

See, the thing with that is that Spot and Listen are both Wis based. And the way Pinkie works out ways to make ponies happy would imply that she actually has good Sense Motive too. Pinkie just doesn't seem like a pony with a large amount of Intelligence to me... Of course I'm working on the statement that "Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." She just doesn't cross me as a pony with lots of information, that's entirely Twilight.



Oh and one last thing:


Season 2:

Episode 7: Song
Episode 8: No song
Episode 9: Song
Episode 10: No song
Episode 11: Song
Episode 12: No song
Episode 13: Song
Episode 14: No song
Episode 15: Song
Episode 16: No song
Episode 17: Song
Episode 18: Song

NO NO NO

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT


GODDAMNIT


YOU BROKE THE PATTERN

YOU BROKE THE PATTERN PINKIE


New Ep

You're complaining about Pinkie breaking a pattern? She caused a mental image to become manifest. The 4th wall will never recover. To the hells with your pattern!



Am i the only one who ISN'T annoyed by the fact that there are all these random songs that all seem to start within 5 minutes into the episode?!

New Ep

It's a Pinkie Pie episode. It's to be expected.

Speaking of which, I love the fact that they once again made Pinkie's songs canon to the point that she's aware she breaks out in song completely randomly and actually has it on her list of things to do to make friends.



That's the final reveal of the series! Just like St. Elsewhere!
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/d2db19a3ae4accde24cf8ff5f30b1fc3/74603%20-%20artist%3Aswaetshrit%20Clyde%20comic%20granny_pi e%20parody%20pinkamena_diane_pie%20pinkie_pie%20po nified%20spike%20st._elsewhere%20twilight_sparkle. jpg

great, now I'm sad. Time to spend another hour looping

Smile Smile Smile

New Ep

Warning: DO NOT LISTEN TO SMILE SMILE SMILE WHILE READING THAT COMIC! It makes the entire thing obscenely sad. And now I'm going to have to rewatch the episode to purge the sad from my mind.



Are you kidding? Smile Smile Smile has consumed my last five waking hours!

New Ep?

I'm at 8 hours now. It's entirely too cheery a song.

Jahkaivah
2012-02-18, 09:08 PM
Am i the only one who ISN'T annoyed by the fact that there are all these random songs that all seem to start within 5 minutes into the episode?!

Well I wouldn't mind as much if it wasn't the same song everytime. :smalltongue: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42xDKnXe1gE)


:smallconfused:
Uh, I'm not exactly an expert or anything, but I'm not sure that's at all how Autism works. At least, that would explain why Grandma Pie doesn't understand it?

It's a reference to this Foster's fan theory. (http://talkingincircles.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fosters_final_episode.jpg)

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 09:12 PM
Well I wouldn't mind as much if it wasn't the same song everytime. :smalltongue: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42xDKnXe1gE)

Oh, thats mean. :smallbiggrin:

Eakin
2012-02-18, 09:28 PM
It's a reference to this Foster's fan theory. (http://talkingincircles.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fosters_final_episode.jpg)

Which is, in turn, a reference to the finale of "St. Elsewhere," from 1988, which revealed that the whole show took place in the imagination of a young autistic boy. The comics both lift the dialogue line-for-line from the show's final scene. Hence the reason my original post referenced the series by name.

If they aren't presenting autism correctly, it's because some TV writer in 1988 didn't know what the disease actually was.

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 09:35 PM
Oh, right.
New Ep

I really hope the rest of the ponies are going to get a song as devoted to them as Pinkie just did. Becoming Popular could work for Rarity, Best Pet could probably qualify for Dash and Fluttershy (Dash keeps going on about how awesome she is, Fluttershy goes on about her abundant love of animals) but so far Twilight and Applejack are lacking their own songs.

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 09:35 PM
Which is, in turn, a reference to the finale of "St. Elsewhere," from 1988, which revealed that the whole show took place in the imagination of a young autistic boy. The comics both lift the dialogue line-for-line from the show's final scene. Hence the reason my original post referenced the series by name.

If they aren't presenting autism correctly, it's because some TV writer in 1988 didn't know what the disease actually was.

To be fair, a bunch of people are realy, realy ignorant about the facts of most mential disorders. Something like that from a TV writer, from the 80's? No surprise.

Selpharia
2012-02-18, 09:50 PM
Int vs. Wis again


Int vs Wis

See, the thing with that is that Spot and Listen are both Wis based. And the way Pinkie works out ways to make ponies happy would imply that she actually has good Sense Motive too. Pinkie just doesn't seem like a pony with a large amount of Intelligence to me... Of course I'm working on the statement that "Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." She just doesn't cross me as a pony with lots of information, that's entirely Twilight.







Ah, that explains it. I see where your thought process comes from. By the same token, I don't see Pinkie as a "sage" with great insight (consistently) into other people's situations and their solutions, that's more Zecora's bailiwick, or Celestia's. My personal definition of intelligence is not the amount of information you have, but your ability to recall and relate it abstractly.

To use your own analogy, intelligence is, given a list of 1000 fruits to look at for 30 seconds, to be able to recite it perfectly from A to Z and to have derived a very precise and accurate general definition of "fruit" from those examples. I tend to think that knowing that a tomato is more of a knowledge(nature) check. Having a high intelligence helps there, because you retain more information better and for longer, but the most superior intellect in the universe, without any knowledge of what a tomato is, cannot tell you the answer to "is a tomato a fruit?" Hence why I assume, Pinkie has a good number of skill ranks to make up for her low base stats, along with inspire confidence/greatness boosts from constant song. Of course, this assumes a D&D framework, but the divide for me is that intelligence is the ability to interpret and recall information, wisdom is practical application.

And now I have suitably spent way too much time thinking about epistemological minutiae, time to go listen to Smile, Smile Smile again.

Geno9999
2012-02-18, 09:58 PM
...For some reason, I want to move to Canada now. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/pony-chocolate-sculpture.html)

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 10:08 PM
Int vs. Wis again




Ah, that explains it. I see where your thought process comes from. By the same token, I don't see Pinkie as a "sage" with great insight (consistently) into other people's situations and their solutions, that's more Zecora's bailiwick, or Celestia's. My personal definition of intelligence is not the amount of information you have, but your ability to recall and relate it abstractly.

To use your own analogy, intelligence is, given a list of 1000 fruits to look at for 30 seconds, to be able to recite it perfectly from A to Z and to have derived a very precise and accurate general definition of "fruit" from those examples. I tend to think that knowing that a tomato is more of a knowledge(nature) check. Having a high intelligence helps there, because you retain more information better and for longer, but the most superior intellect in the universe, without any knowledge of what a tomato is, cannot tell you the answer to "is a tomato a fruit?" Hence why I assume, Pinkie has a good number of skill ranks to make up for her low base stats, along with inspire confidence/greatness boosts from constant song. Of course, this assumes a D&D framework, but the divide for me is that intelligence is the ability to interpret and recall information, wisdom is practical application.

And now I have suitably spent way too much time thinking about epistemological minutiae, time to go listen to Smile, Smile Smile again.


IT KEEPS GOING (Some New Ep)

So based on that last (relevant) sentence we both have the same definition of Intelligence and Wisdom, we're just debating which one Pinkie has more of. Zecora and Celestia would both be high Int and high Wis. They have a lot of information to work with and know how to apply it. Charisma could cover a fair chunk of what Pinkie does (Gather Information, Diplomacy, Bluff, Disguise, Intimidate, SO MUCH INTIMIDATE). I'd still probably say that she's higher Wis than Int just for the possibility that Pinkie Sense is based on her interpreting incoming information without her actually having ranks in Sense Motive and whatnot. Most of her more obscure knowledge comes from Bardic Knowledge.

Just as an example from this episode, the only reason she was able to connect Cranky and Matilda is because she had already gone through Matilda's journal. That's definitely going to be Gather Information. (Getting information by interacting with others) I don't really like classifying memory though, which I think is the real point we're debating. It doesn't seem to make sense to me that a high Wis low Int character would have next to no ability to learn from their experiences and draw conclusions from them, which you would expect from anyone with a high Wis.

Also are you saying you ever stopped listening to Smile Smile Smile? :smalltongue:



...For some reason, I want to move to Canada now. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/pony-chocolate-sculpture.html)

I win all the things! :smallbiggrin:

Athaniar
2012-02-18, 10:15 PM
Ponythread:

I would like to draw your attention to the fact that one of our members recently lost a treasured family member.

RoninHiroX recently lost his mother. I ask that the entirety of the ponythread keep him in their thoughts and hearts, and that those inclined too pray for him.

Thank you.
My condolences. You and your family are in my thoughts.


Oh, by the by, they also put up a new episode synopsis for the one airing on March 17th.

Episode: Dragon Quest
Air Date: March 17, 2012)
Synopsis: Spike joins the Great Dragon Migration to discover his true identity, but it might not be what he really needs.

Premise sounds pretty cool, and the lesson is going to probably be something about appreciating the things you already have. If they somehow manage to work in a reference to the Dragon Quest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest) game series in the actual episode, my life would be complete.
Reminds me of a G1 episode, actually. In any case, looking forward to more dragons.

New Episode!

I love Pinkie. This episode was Pinkie. I love this episode. This episode was so very, very Pinkie. Managed to remain unspoilered on the song, and it was worth it. So awesome. So much awesome music. Besides the Pinkie stuff (I mourn the fourth wall after the felt part, and the clone, and, well, everything) I love the continuity and cameos. Baby Cakes! Zecora! Reading Rainbow!

Yes, this is definitely Top 5 for me.

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 10:22 PM
...For some reason, I want to move to Canada now. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/pony-chocolate-sculpture.html)

At long last, the community can eat a pony. :smallbiggrin:

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 10:25 PM
New Episode!

I love Pinkie. This episode was Pinkie. I love this episode. This episode was so very, very Pinkie. Managed to remain unspoilered on the song, and it was worth it. So awesome. So much awesome music. Besides the Pinkie stuff (I mourn the fourth wall after the felt part, and the clone, and, well, everything) I love the continuity and cameos. Baby Cakes! Zecora! Reading Rainbow!

Yes, this is definitely Top 5 for me.


New Ep

Speaking of which, I noticed something after watching Smile Smile Smile for the umpteenth time. (Holy crap spellcheck isn't yelling at me for umpteenth. That's actually a word?) This is mostly owed to me switching over to an HD version of the video to loop instead of the low-quality messed-up stream recording I was using. When Pinkie goes and starts playing with Applebloom, the jumprope she was using with the other fillies keeps going. Pinkie's reality-bending powers don't require her to be in the immediate vicinity!


Unrelated, semi-new-ep-but-not-really-a-spoiler

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/049/0/6/day_36___happy_sad_happy_sad_happy_by_bgkyouhen-d4q72kb.png
There is no way I'm the only one who thought of this.

Lord Raziere
2012-02-18, 10:33 PM
On Episode 18, Season 2

I'm with Cranky.

but I hate that Pinkie succeeded. the moral should've been "not everyone can be your friend." it would've been a good lesson for Pinkie Pie to learn, to learn some growth and maturity.

instead the plot was twisted on its arm so that Pinkie Pie would succeed out of nowhere, and we instead get this stupid lesson that should be obvious to anyone with a brain. just so this can have a happy ending.

:smallannoyed:

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 10:38 PM
On Episode 18, Season 2

I'm with Cranky.

but I hate that Pinkie succeeded. the moral should've been "not everyone can be your friend." it would've been a good lesson for Pinkie Pie to learn, to learn some growth and maturity.

instead the plot was twisted on its arm so that Pinkie Pie would succeed out of nowhere, and we instead get this stupid lesson that should be obvious to anyone with a brain. just so this can have a happy ending.

:smallannoyed:


New Ep

I dunno, I don't see any reason why everyone can't be friends. People who don't get along at all could easily be friends if they could just come to an agreement to at least tolerate each other. Pinkie managed to get through to Cranky, so now I could see her much more likely to respect his wishes to be left alone. (Unless he has a bad day and refuses to let her cheer him up again) The two don't work together at all, but that doesn't mean they can't be nice to each other and try to help each other out when they need it.

SiuiS
2012-02-18, 10:42 PM
There are better questions to be asked.

Like "Why do you value thinking?"

It brings me joy. It gives me structure from which to appreciate things. For many, it defines existence.


If you're wondering why you value thinking, thinking isn't going to give you the answer. A system can't comprehend it's own limits. You've got to experience not thinking. Go for a run around the block, focus on action/reaction. Let your body and not your mind give you the answer.

This is, to me, flawed (if understandable).
The subcutaneous and intervisceral fascia around and between your guts has a measurable if enigmatic tendency to communicate with itself by conducting electrical and chemical impulses from and to the CNS. Quite literally, scientists are investigating the veracity of a 'gut feeling' where sensations in your viscera related to moral or ethical decisions influence your actions. Is this thinking?

A reflex stems from your body receiving stimuli which fire nervous impulses that stop at your spinal cord without following all the way through to the brain before rebounding. You flinch or react literally outside the purview of the physical brain. Is this thinking?

Physical actions as opposite of thought is a fallacy. At best it can be viewed like the yinyang, where there is a little of the other in the one. My favorite moment in martial arts came when I ticked off a sparring partner and they got into my space. I fended them off, but it was mostly unconscious. I would guard or strike and my thoughts noticed afterwards. The body moved and thought issued like thunder. But this does not preclude thinking being a part of what I did; I very clearly recall gauging openings, spacing and timing with my conscious mind. They were simultaneous, and just like the mind is used to sound coming a touch after a visual, the simultaneity threw off my perceptions. But I can be reasonably certain that's what it was.

One can be so full of action, of doing, that one no longer 'thinks'. This is the point of drilling. It is the sound of one hand clapping, after all. The hand does not clap, and then think about the sound, and then issue it. They are all one thing. But this requires "thought" to be a distraction. It requires calling the ocean "just a bunch of waves" and ignoring its depths and currents, different salinities and temperatures and densities. It requires an insufficient understanding of what 'thinking' is.

I would also like to say that unlike a computer language, human thought is capable of discerning its own weak points. That is the very point of 'meta'! Abstraction and concretion as a sliding scale, symbolism; the ability to think about thinking itself is a keystone of what defines sentience.


http://i.imgur.com/ROEne.pngOMGOSH everypony this episode is super super super super everything Me!

Its totally Pinkie!

Only 270 minutes, until the episode and all of its delicious spoilers
*BANG* MASK SHALLBE MINE!


While I'm sure the mass violently explosive intestinal dispersion spell sounds like loads of fun

!!!

Dammit Bleakbane! They're doing it, not me! Point the spell at THEM! Gastroenteritis for the lose!


are these things made to order, or is the pony fandom just that prolific?

Just that prolific. This is from season 1.


Explosions?
No Krosis not the kind you want or wait is it? Never mind that we've got bigger problems,
1) Bronies haters have discovered the origin of my ponified teacher hung on the wall
It lead to people going to the hospital
Hey not my fault, if someone sneaks up on me kicks me in the thigh screaming "bronies suck!" and he winds up with 2 cracked ribs and a bloody/broken nose it really can't be my fault, can it?
Maybe, I think explosives would have worked better
2) Final Maretasy isn't done yet
3) Fighting is magic isn't done yet
4) We haven't blown anything up in the past 24 hours
That's bad really really bad
5)I don't have anything worthy of a signature, my posts look so bare can anyone help?

6)And lastly, I need ideas for characters in my fanfic so if you could send me a name, quick description, picture if possible, and what side you would like them to be on Sith, Jedi, Bounty hunter, Outer rim gang, or Freelancer
Any ideas would be great thanks a lot!

While I'm all for resolving physical disputes efficiently, I would suggest you not make hospitalization a goal per Se. Generally, once you knock them away, unless they resume aggression you would be in the wrong for continuing the assault.

Oh but I was going to suggest making sure that one shot counts. Without medical issues? Uh... Hm.

Human form, y u so weak?


Oh and one last thing:


Season 2:

Episode 7: Song
Episode 8: No song
Episode 9: Song
Episode 10: No song
Episode 11: Song
Episode 12: No song
Episode 13: Song
Episode 14: No song
Episode 15: Song
Episode 16: No song
Episode 17: Song
Episode 18: Song

NO NO NO

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT

GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT GODDAMNIT


GODDAMNIT


YOU BROKE THE PATTERN

YOU BROKE THE PATTERN PINKIE


Nah, it's just a drawn out expandin sequence!
...
Unless you mean, just this season. Then yeah.


Which is, in turn, a reference to the finale of "St. Elsewhere," from 1988, which revealed that the whole show took place in the imagination of a young autistic boy. The comics both lift the dialogue line-for-line from the show's final scene. Hence the reason my original post referenced the series by name.

If they aren't presenting autism correctly, it's because some TV writer in 1988 didn't know what the disease actually was.

Findable by looking for the ten saddest series endings ever.
The worst? Involved Mimsy the cat. I had to do some sleuthing and make sure the poor kitty was alright. Had me near tears :smalleek:


...For some reason, I want to move to Canada now. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/02/pony-chocolate-sculpture.html)

Hm. Midnight keeps trying to get meto move to Canada, but I recently found out she's trying to get Phoe to move to Canada too.

I suspect it's because we both said slavery as a pony is about as good as paradise here. She wants us for the acid mines.

No, Phoe, I still don't know why they mine acid. Ponies are weird.

otakuryoga
2012-02-18, 10:43 PM
On Episode 18, Season 2

I'm with Cranky.

but I hate that Pinkie succeeded. the moral should've been "not everyone can be your friend." it would've been a good lesson for Pinkie Pie to learn, to learn some growth and maturity.

instead the plot was twisted on its arm so that Pinkie Pie would succeed out of nowhere, and we instead get this stupid lesson that should be obvious to anyone with a brain. just so this can have a happy ending.

:smallannoyed:


well...despite how much they do for us Bronies at the end of the day it IS a kids show still

Lord Raziere
2012-02-18, 10:44 PM
New Ep
Because the world is imperfect, all things are imperfect, and perfect friendship to all….will never happen. that is simply how things are. to make friends with all the world is to try and seek such perfection, and is only foolishness that will end in failure and ruin. there will always be conflict, and as long as there is conflict, not everyone can be your friend. that is just the way of the world.

tolerance is not friendship. it is simply tolerance. do not confuse one thing for something that is more.

Eakin
2012-02-18, 10:49 PM
Int vs. Wis again




Ah, that explains it. I see where your thought process comes from. By the same token, I don't see Pinkie as a "sage" with great insight (consistently) into other people's situations and their solutions, that's more Zecora's bailiwick, or Celestia's. My personal definition of intelligence is not the amount of information you have, but your ability to recall and relate it abstractly.

To use your own analogy, intelligence is, given a list of 1000 fruits to look at for 30 seconds, to be able to recite it perfectly from A to Z and to have derived a very precise and accurate general definition of "fruit" from those examples. I tend to think that knowing that a tomato is more of a knowledge(nature) check. Having a high intelligence helps there, because you retain more information better and for longer, but the most superior intellect in the universe, without any knowledge of what a tomato is, cannot tell you the answer to "is a tomato a fruit?" Hence why I assume, Pinkie has a good number of skill ranks to make up for her low base stats, along with inspire confidence/greatness boosts from constant song. Of course, this assumes a D&D framework, but the divide for me is that intelligence is the ability to interpret and recall information, wisdom is practical application.

And now I have suitably spent way too much time thinking about epistemological minutiae, time to go listen to Smile, Smile Smile again.


Well, I actually have no interest in getting involved in a debate of Int vs. Wisdom, since I find summarizing any character's mental state based on two poorly-defined attributes. For the same reason I roll my eyes when anyone tries to use the Good/Evil/Law/Chaos alignment grid.

In fact, I wouldn't have replied to you at all except I didn't recognize your username, and your forum status is Pixie, so...

HEY PONYTHREAD, WE NEED A TRADITIONAL PONYTHREAD WELCOME OVER HERE STAT! GIVE 'ER BOTH BARRELS!

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 10:49 PM
New Ep
Because the world is imperfect, all things are imperfect, and perfect friendship to all….will never happen. that is simply how things are. to make friends with all the world is to try and seek such perfection, and is only foolishness that will end in failure and ruin. there will always be conflict, and as long as there is conflict, not everyone can be your friend. that is just the way of the world.

tolerance is not friendship. it is simply tolerance. do not confuse one thing for something that is more.

Thing is, this is a idealistic show made for young childeren, and there going to show the most ideaistic outcome no matter what.

MCerberus
2012-02-18, 10:53 PM
IT KEEPS GOING (Some New Ep)

So based on that last (relevant) sentence we both have the same definition of Intelligence and Wisdom, we're just debating which one Pinkie has more of. Zecora and Celestia would both be high Int and high Wis. They have a lot of information to work with and know how to apply it. Charisma could cover a fair chunk of what Pinkie does (Gather Information, Diplomacy, Bluff, Disguise, Intimidate, SO MUCH INTIMIDATE). I'd still probably say that she's higher Wis than Int just for the possibility that Pinkie Sense is based on her interpreting incoming information without her actually having ranks in Sense Motive and whatnot. Most of her more obscure knowledge comes from Bardic Knowledge.

Just as an example from this episode, the only reason she was able to connect Cranky and Matilda is because she had already gone through Matilda's journal. That's definitely going to be Gather Information. (Getting information by interacting with others) I don't really like classifying memory though, which I think is the real point we're debating. It doesn't seem to make sense to me that a high Wis low Int character would have next to no ability to learn from their experiences and draw conclusions from them, which you would expect from anyone with a high Wis.

Also are you saying you ever stopped listening to Smile Smile Smile? :smalltongue:



I warned you about the game mechanics debate, I told you diamond dawg (new ep)
The way I look at it is Pinkie has good mental scores and a very chaotic alignment. Lawfully aligned Twilight (higher int, lower cha/wis) sees it as alien madness until it's explicitly explained to her.

Although it is a good thing to point out that pigeon-holing personalities into stat blocks and the like is highly limiting your perspective. The odd-balls are always most interesting in this regard. Case study: Fluttershy. Rolled an 18 for cha, high wisdom, but has chosen not to exert her will on ponies.

D_Lord
2012-02-18, 10:53 PM
New Ep
Because the world is imperfect, all things are imperfect, and perfect friendship to all….will never happen. that is simply how things are. to make friends with all the world is to try and seek such perfection, and is only foolishness that will end in failure and ruin. there will always be conflict, and as long as there is conflict, not everyone can be your friend. that is just the way of the world.

tolerance is not friendship. it is simply tolerance. do not confuse one thing for something that is more.

I believe that you need remember this is Pinky Pie, the pony who went even more crazy just by one surprise party set up for her. The one that got mad over a broken promise. And this is a different world then ours. The ponys need to do most of the weather themselves.

You'll will be her friend or things well get cupcakes....

Pokonic
2012-02-18, 10:56 PM
I warned you about the game mechanics debate, I told you diamond dawg (new ep)
The way I look at it is Pinkie has good mental scores and a very chaotic alignment. Lawfully aligned Twilight (higher int, lower cha/wis) sees it as alien madness until it's explicitly explained to her.

Although it is a good thing to point out that pigeon-holing personalities into stat blocks and the like is highly limiting your perspective. The odd-balls are always most interesting in this regard. Case study: Fluttershy. Rolled an 18 for cha, high wisdom, but has chosen not to exert her will on ponies.

Rarity seems to both have some strange gishy build, considering that she has the endurance to go around and plucking large amounts of gems from the ground, yet is neather foolish or ignorant.

Lord Raziere
2012-02-18, 10:59 PM
Thing is, this is a idealistic show made for young childeren, and there going to show the most ideaistic outcome no matter what.

Exactly.

That is its imperfection. :smallamused: In trying to achieve perfect optimism, they sacrificed the true lesson, while a less idealistic end would've led to imperfect optimism.
I would've rather had the true lesson of a less idealistic end than trying to be hardline optimistic merely for the sake of being hardline optimistic. between two imperfections, this is not the one I would've picked.

Selpharia
2012-02-18, 11:01 PM
IT KEEPS GOING (Some New Ep)

So based on that last (relevant) sentence we both have the same definition of Intelligence and Wisdom, we're just debating which one Pinkie has more of. Zecora and Celestia would both be high Int and high Wis. They have a lot of information to work with and know how to apply it. Charisma could cover a fair chunk of what Pinkie does (Gather Information, Diplomacy, Bluff, Disguise, Intimidate, SO MUCH INTIMIDATE). I'd still probably say that she's higher Wis than Int just for the possibility that Pinkie Sense is based on her interpreting incoming information without her actually having ranks in Sense Motive and whatnot. Most of her more obscure knowledge comes from Bardic Knowledge.

Just as an example from this episode, the only reason she was able to connect Cranky and Matilda is because she had already gone through Matilda's journal. That's definitely going to be Gather Information. (Getting information by interacting with others) I don't really like classifying memory though, which I think is the real point we're debating. It doesn't seem to make sense to me that a high Wis low Int character would have next to no ability to learn from their experiences and draw conclusions from them, which you would expect from anyone with a high Wis.

Also are you saying you ever stopped listening to Smile Smile Smile? :smalltongue:



Int and Wis: Wheeee!

Fair point about Zecora and H.M.S.R.H. Princess Celestia (esp. since the latter has to have the +3 age bonuses to mental stats by now) Would you accept Applejack as an example of Low(ish) Int, High Wis? I think the realistic thing to say is that I am wrong and "memory" is not necessarily Int, beyond a basic level. Instead, I propose an alternate view slightly different from before: Intelligence is the ability to absorb and recall information, and make accurate logical and factual and purely logical and factual statements only about that information. A high wisdom would allow someone to absorb some amount of information from their experiences, but the information they absorb would be accurate impressions and lessons for future situations that do not necessarily follow from pure formal logic

Some int is required for the high wis character, or it would take many repetitions for them to come up with a wise axiom about a situation, simply because they wouldn't have basic facts, but that's closer to Derpy level than Pinkie. Similarly, the high int, abysmal wis character is a collection of faccts that have no real meaning because they can't be applied. I have a vague feeling that I just agreed with you completely in a roundabout way, so cheers for that, provided you accept the division of memory at a very abstract level into facts and logical relations(int) and broad, often illogical axiomatic conclusions(wis).

For Pinkie, the thing I opposed mainly was the idea of Pinkie as Holmes with hyper intelligence guiding her Pinkie sense, but given her obviously massive Charisma and bardic leanings, I'd be happy to call it a Bardic Knack/Knowledge, and to accept Int < Wis< Cha as true for Pinkie's mental stats.

NB: Bold for clarity only

Also, no, I have not stopped, but the repeat was coming sround again :smallwink:

thubby
2012-02-18, 11:03 PM
new ep

omg, pinkie pie song that doesn't make me want to strangle her!

i agree that i didn't like that her apology being so silly. would have been nice to see a crack in the pinkie cheer.

also, would have been nice to have seen the female donkey somewhere in the past. this feels like DEM

MCerberus
2012-02-18, 11:07 PM
Tangential to current conversation: DnD classes for the mane 6. (in order of best pony-ness)

Pinkie: Bard, so much bard
Rarity: Rogue
Twilight: Wizard (dragonling familiar)
Fluttershy: Druid
Rainbow Dash: Barbarian
Applejack: Cleric of Celestia

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 11:09 PM
Int and Wis: Wheeee!

Fair point about Zecora and H.M.S.R.H. Princess Celestia (esp. since the latter has to have the +3 age bonuses to mental stats by now) Would you accept Applejack as an example of Low(ish) Int, High Wis? I think the realistic thing to say is that I am wrong and "memory" is not necessarily Int, beyond a basic level. Instead, I propose an alternate view slightly different from before: Intelligence is the ability to absorb and recall information, and make accurate logical and factual and purely logical and factual statements only about that information. A high wisdom would allow someone to absorb some amount of information from their experiences, but the information they absorb would be accurate impressions and lessons for future situations that do not necessarily follow from pure formal logic

Some int is required for the high wis character, or it would take many repetitions for them to come up with a wise axiom about a situation, simply because they wouldn't have basic facts, but that's closer to Derpy level than Pinkie. Similarly, the high int, abysmal wis character is a collection of faccts that have no real meaning because they can't be applied. I have a vague feeling that I just agreed with you completely in a roundabout way, so cheers for that, provided you accept the division of memory at a very abstract level into facts and logical relations(int) and broad, often illogical axiomatic conclusions(wis).

For Pinkie, the thing I opposed mainly was the idea of Pinkie as Holmes with hyper intelligence guiding her Pinkie sense, but given her obviously massive Charisma and bardic leanings, I'd be happy to call it a Bardic Knack/Knowledge, and to accept Int < Wis< Cha as true for Pinkie's mental stats.

NB: Bold for clarity only

Also, no, I have not stopped, but the repeat was coming sround again :smallwink:


Int vs Wis

Actually, looking again at the skills that fall under the mental stats and thinking about how they're defined in general I think we can draw a pretty clear definition of the type of knowledge each grants. Intelligence is knowledge about things (plants, animals, history, etc), Wisdom is knowledge of the world built on experience, and Charisma is knowledge of people built through interactions. Pinkie is absolutely Charisma-based with some Wisdom but little Intelligence. Don't think that really changes anything either of us have said, just better outlines the difference between the stats so we can more easily figure out which one Pinkie Sense falls under.


New Ep

:smallbiggrin::smallfrown::smallbiggrin::smallfrow n: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRL2Tgax1k)

Jahkaivah
2012-02-18, 11:11 PM
new ep
also, would have been nice to have seen the female donkey somewhere in the past. this feels like DEM

She did appear beforehand right before the song. Which I suspect was intended to make us forget that Pinkie already knew a female donkey before Cranky was introduced.

It did come in a bit left field though, and it was a bit too convenient for Pinkie that the solution to the problem was right under her nose.

Eakin
2012-02-18, 11:19 PM
Tangential to current conversation: DnD classes for the mane 6. (in order of best pony-ness)

Pinkie: Bard, so much bard
Rarity: Rogue
Twilight: Wizard (dragonling familiar)
Fluttershy: Druid
Rainbow Dash: Barbarian
Applejack: Cleric of Celestia

Other than Applejack clearly being a Ranger (http://lurkingrhythmically.blogspot.com/2011/07/mlp-d-applejack.html), not a Cleric, I'd almost suspect you were a regular reader of Friendship is Dragons (http://friendshipisdragons.thecomicseries.com/comics/)

SaintRidley
2012-02-18, 11:23 PM
episode

I'm sad to report that this is probably bottom five for me. I just did not enjoy the episode. I think the song was probably a major factor there. I didn't like the song and thought it was a bit too long on top of that.

Oh well. Can't all be winners.

Kyouhen
2012-02-18, 11:38 PM
Tangential to current conversation: DnD classes for the mane 6. (in order of best pony-ness)

Pinkie: Bard, so much bard
Rarity: Rogue
Twilight: Wizard (dragonling familiar)
Fluttershy: Druid
Rainbow Dash: Barbarian
Applejack: Cleric of Celestia

I don't really see Rarity being a rogue. She may have the obsession with shiny objects normally attributed to rogues, but she doesn't fight or otherwise act anything like them. I'd almost put her in Bard as well, just dealing with social manipulation instead of the party buffs that Pinkie specializes in.

Selpharia
2012-02-18, 11:40 PM
Int vs Wis

Actually, looking again at the skills that fall under the mental stats and thinking about how they're defined in general I think we can draw a pretty clear definition of the type of knowledge each grants. Intelligence is knowledge about things (plants, animals, history, etc), Wisdom is knowledge of the world built on experience, and Charisma is knowledge of people built through interactions. Pinkie is absolutely Charisma-based with some Wisdom but little Intelligence. Don't think that really changes anything either of us have said, just better outlines the difference between the stats so we can more easily figure out which one Pinkie Sense falls under.


New Ep

:smallbiggrin::smallfrown::smallbiggrin::smallfrow n: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRL2Tgax1k)




As a general rule, I think this is fine, though Sense motive does seem to be a bit of an edge case, since it is knowledge of people, could probably be learned through interactions, but is Wis based.


Pony D&D Classes
Rarity- Beguiler, Enchantment/Social specialist
Twilight- Wizard
Fluttershy: Druid with good Cha and high Handle Animal.
Pinkie Pie: Bard
Rainbow Dash: Warblade (she's got an actually decent int score, can read and does the showboating attitude very well)
Applejack: Paladin- strict code of honor, tries to help everyone, greatest fear is failure to do her duty, though I could see some kind of Ranger multiclass for Knowledge(nature)

Zevox
2012-02-18, 11:51 PM
Well, I think we can all agree on at least three of the D&D classes for the main six: Pinkie is a Bard, Twilight is a Wizard, and Fluttershy is a Druid. No contest there, no?

Rarity, Rainbow Dash, and AJ, bit harder. I could see both Dash and AJ as either Rangers or Fighters myself. Dash I could also see as a Rogue or Swashbuckler (or Ninja, can't forget Ninja after Read it and Weep). AJ I could see being a Paladin.

Rarity... is hard to pin down. Rogue doesn't seem to fit to me - she doesn't seem the sort to do the kind of dirty work they're designed to do. Bard is probably the best one in my mind, but it seems very odd to give her the same class as Pinkie. Maybe Sorcerer, but that's really just because she's a Unicorn. Beyond that, I'm kinda blanking on ideas. :smallconfused:

Zevox

Pokonic
2012-02-19, 12:01 AM
Rarity... is hard to pin down. Rogue doesn't seem to fit to me - she doesn't seem the sort to do the kind of dirty work they're designed to do. Bard is probably the best one in my mind, but it seems very odd to give her the same class as Pinkie. Maybe Sorcerer, but that's really just because she's a Unicorn. Beyond that, I'm kinda blanking on ideas. :smallconfused:

Zevox

Rarity fits best as a rouge who took a very interesting little Prestege class that focuses on improving item value, and creating and finding nonmagical stuff. A bit of a Diplomancer, realy, considering her basic MO when dealing with problems is to find someone to help her solve it or do it completly. See Dragonshy for the most blatent example.

Eakin
2012-02-19, 12:07 AM
Rarity fits best as a rouge who took a very interesting little Prestege class that focuses on improving item value, and creating and finding nonmagical stuff. A bit of a Diplomancer, realy, considering her basic MO when dealing with problems is to find someone to help her solve it or do it completly. See Dragonshy for the most blatent example.

Forget Dragonshy, the quintessential Rarity-as-Diplomancer episode has to be Dog and Pony Show

Pokonic
2012-02-19, 12:07 AM
Forget Dragonshy, the quintessential Rarity-as-Diplomancer episode has to be Dog and Pony Show

She also got some colts to get them to the GGG. Can't forget that.

Selpharia
2012-02-19, 12:12 AM
Forget Dragonshy, the quintessential Rarity-as-Diplomancer episode has to be Dog and Pony Show

Give this man a cigar. That's partially why I like Beguiler, it's got diplomancy with magic (charms, dominates, suggestion, glibness etc.) and skills (6+Int) without either singing or sneak attack, though her diplomancy is more effective if unexpected (Silent, Still, Surprise/Cloaked Casting), which fits Dog and Pony Show.

Pokonic
2012-02-19, 12:16 AM
Give this man a cigar. That's partially why I like Beguiler, it's got diplomancy with magic (charms, dominates, suggestion, glibness etc.) and skills (6+Int) without either singing or sneak attack, though her diplomancy is more effective if unexpected (Silent, Still, Surprise/Cloaked Casting), which fits Dog and Pony Show.

Remember, she at managed to convince what had to at least be a Mature Adult dragon to let her into his lair. Girl's got skills.

SaintRidley
2012-02-19, 12:18 AM
While she may not be a rogue, Rarity certainly is a rouge, is she not?


I kid, of course.

Eakin
2012-02-19, 12:21 AM
Give this man a cigar. That's partially why I like Beguiler, it's got diplomancy with magic (charms, dominates, suggestion, glibness etc.) and skills (6+Int) without either singing or sneak attack, though her diplomancy is more effective if unexpected (Silent, Still, Surprise/Cloaked Casting), which fits Dog and Pony Show.

Yay! Cigars! I should take up smoking in celebration!

The odds of contracting lung cancer have been DOUBLED!


While she may not be a rogue, Rarity certainly is a rouge, is she not?


I kid, of course.

Rarity's repository of ruby red rouge represents resplendently and really rather respectfully recovering riches reliably resulting from Roguery.

MCerberus
2012-02-19, 12:24 AM
Rarity is the kind of rogue that always sets off a party's warnings. A rogue that, say, would nearly cause a TPK by stealing from a dragon hoard. The one that doesn't roll diplomacy often because they're saving it for that one situation where they could get a mountain of gems while the DM facepalms.

Pokonic
2012-02-19, 12:24 AM
Yay! Cigars! I should take up smoking in celebration!

The odds of contracting lung cancer have been DOUBLED!

Luckly,Friendship is Healing Magic!

Kindablue
2012-02-19, 12:28 AM
This is, to me, flawed (if understandable).
The subcutaneous and intervisceral fascia around and between your guts has a measurable if enigmatic tendency to communicate with itself by conducting electrical and chemical impulses from and to the CNS. Quite literally, scientists are investigating the veracity of a 'gut feeling' where sensations in your viscera related to moral or ethical decisions influence your actions. Is this thinking?

A reflex stems from your body receiving stimuli which fire nervous impulses that stop at your spinal cord without following all the way through to the brain before rebounding. You flinch or react literally outside the purview of the physical brain. Is this thinking?

Physical actions as opposite of thought is a fallacy. At best it can be viewed like the yinyang, where there is a little of the other in the one. My favorite moment in martial arts came when I ticked off a sparring partner and they got into my space. I fended them off, but it was mostly unconscious. I would guard or strike and my thoughts noticed afterwards. The body moved and thought issued like thunder. But this does not preclude thinking being a part of what I did; I very clearly recall gauging openings, spacing and timing with my conscious mind. They were simultaneous, and just like the mind is used to sound coming a touch after a visual, the simultaneity threw off my perceptions. But I can be reasonably certain that's what it was.

One can be so full of action, of doing, that one no longer 'thinks'. This is the point of drilling. It is the sound of one hand clapping, after all. The hand does not clap, and then think about the sound, and then issue it. They are all one thing. But this requires "thought" to be a distraction. It requires calling the ocean "just a bunch of waves" and ignoring its depths and currents, different salinities and temperatures and densities. It requires an insufficient understanding of what 'thinking' is.

I would also like to say that unlike a computer language, human thought is capable of discerning its own weak points. That is the very point of 'meta'! Abstraction and concretion as a sliding scale, symbolism; the ability to think about thinking itself is a keystone of what defines sentience.

The best advice I've ever received on how to give a good performance is that thinking is the worst thing you can ever do, and that you must never lose your concentration.

Anarion
2012-02-19, 12:51 AM
Exactly.

That is its imperfection. :smallamused: In trying to achieve perfect optimism, they sacrificed the true lesson, while a less idealistic end would've led to imperfect optimism.
I would've rather had the true lesson of a less idealistic end than trying to be hardline optimistic merely for the sake of being hardline optimistic. between two imperfections, this is not the one I would've picked.

I disagree with you, sort of. I think you're right that not everyone can be friends with everyone else. However, there are some people that can be well-liked by many people and Pinkie Pie is trying to be such a person. She goes out of her way to be friendly and energetic with everyone she meets, and this episode showed that when that approach did not work she was willing to change her approach in order to still make a friend.

Now, I agree with the criticism that she should have been shown to change her approach a bit more. The cartoon-style chase was fun, but wasn't the ideal way to show Pinkie's sincerity.

However, Cranky was, in his real nature a good person pony. He may have preferred quiet to franticness, but he was still good (indeed that's why he puts up with Pinkie Pie as much as he does). And I think it's right that Pinkie managed to befriend him by trying to do something for him as an individual.


Okay, random conversation addressed, now I suppose I should talk about the Boston meetup, since I attended it. So, first off, curse you all for convincing me to go.
In a completely unrelated topic to what I just typed, I might be responsible for organizing the venue for the next one.

Remainder of comments in spoiler because I'm tired, so I'll probably ramble.
So as a first meetup, I was pretty happy with this one. There weren't any giantitp people, unfortunately, or if there were I didn't meet them and I was tossing around the name "Order of the Stick" pretty freely. Hopefully I even convinced a few people to read it! I think Jade was coming but then cancelled at the last minute, and I don't recall AmishPirate answering that he was coming, so I'll assume that he wasn't there rather than that I just missed him, but if anyone was there and we just totally failed to realize it, point it out please.

Actual meeting had ~25 people. I found them gathered with a girl balancing a large Twilight Sparkle plushie on her head, which was amazing and made me happy to see the group (for future reference, balancing pony plush on your head=pretty good icebreaker, but explaining likely required).

We hung out in downtown Boston for a bit, failed to find a restaurant and instead split up for 15 minutes to get food then rejoined. I ended up walking in the nearby park with 3 other people, which was fun and a good chance to get know them.

Then we met back up in the park and hung out while people ate and talked pony, video games, assorted random banter until everyone got cold. A couple people left at that point and the ~20 remaining went to a nearby mall (I don't actually know which one because I'm totally ignorant of the layout of downtown Boston). We hung out in the upstairs foodcourt, eventually got some tables, ate dinner and just talked pony and assorted topics that tended to devolve into pony for quite a while.

One disappointment was that nobody could figure out a way to get a projector and space to actually play today's episode on short notice and some people hadn't seen it, so we tried to avoid spoilers or singing Smile Smile Smile. Sad.

So, regarding my complaint in the opening. Let me share a little personal info that I don't think I've told to the thread, since this won't make sense otherwise. The law school that I presently attend is Harvard. I, uh, kind of feel like I'm being arrogant when I tell people that, so I apologize, that's not the intent. What is the intent though, is that I didn't think there were any bronies at Harvard law except the 3-4 people that I've personally tried to convert (with limited success). But, it turned out one of the people there worked in media services at Harvard law and we've probably seen each other like 100 times around the campus. And, since the conversation got into finding space with a projector, this other fellow and I tentatively suggested that if other Boston bronies were willing to pitch in $1-2 dollars each, I could probably book a room in Harvard law for a future meetup, with the bonus of likely getting a "bronies invade Harvard" EQD post out of the bargain. I can't help but think that some day in like 20 years I'll decide to run for political office and someone will dig up the pictures that arise out of all of this, but c'est la vie. It was too awesome to pass up.

Eakin
2012-02-19, 12:59 AM
Okay, random conversation addressed, now I suppose I should talk about the Boston meetup, since I attended it. So, first off, curse you all for convincing me to go.
In a completely unrelated topic to what I just typed, I might be responsible for organizing the venue for the next one.

Remainder of comments in spoiler because I'm tired, so I'll probably ramble.
So as a first meetup, I was pretty happy with this one. There weren't any giantitp people, unfortunately, or if there were I didn't meet them and I was tossing around the name "Order of the Stick" pretty freely. Hopefully I even convinced a few people to read it! I think Jade was coming but then cancelled at the last minute, and I don't recall AmishPirate answering that he was coming, so I'll assume that he wasn't there rather than that I just missed him, but if anyone was there and we just totally failed to realize it, point it out please.

Actual meeting had ~25 people. I found them gathered with a girl balancing a large Twilight Sparkle plushie on her head, which was amazing and made me happy to see the group (for future reference, balancing pony plush on your head=pretty good icebreaker, but explaining likely required).

We hung out in downtown Boston for a bit, failed to find a restaurant and instead split up for 15 minutes to get food then rejoined. I ended up walking in the nearby park with 3 other people, which was fun and a good chance to get know them.

Then we met back up in the park and hung out while people ate and talked pony, video games, assorted random banter until everyone got cold. A couple people left at that point and the ~20 remaining went to a nearby mall (I don't actually know which one because I'm totally ignorant of the layout of downtown Boston). We hung out in the upstairs foodcourt, eventually got some tables, ate dinner and just talked pony and assorted topics that tended to devolve into pony for quite a while.

One disappointment was that nobody could figure out a way to get a projector and space to actually play today's episode on short notice and some people hadn't seen it, so we tried to avoid spoilers or singing Smile Smile Smile. Sad.

So, regarding my complaint in the opening. Let me share a little personal info that I don't think I've told to the thread, since this won't make sense otherwise. The law school that I presently attend is Harvard. I, uh, kind of feel like I'm being arrogant when I tell people that, so I apologize, that's not the intent. What is the intent though, is that I didn't think there were any bronies at Harvard law except the 3-4 people that I've personally tried to convert (with limited success). But, it turned out one of the people there worked in media services at Harvard law and we've probably seen each other like 100 times around the campus. And, since the conversation got into finding space with a projector, this other fellow and I tentatively suggested that if other Boston bronies were willing to pitch in $1-2 dollars each, I could probably book a room in Harvard law for a future meetup, with the bonus of likely getting a "bronies invade Harvard" EQD post out of the bargain. I can't help but think that some day in like 20 years I'll decide to run for political office and someone will dig up the pictures that arise out of all of this, but c'est la vie. It was too awesome to pass up.

Sounds like a blast! Good for you for stepping out of your comfort zone, sounds like it was well worth it. And don't be ashamed of going to Harvard! Nopony here is going to think you're showing off by mentioning it. In fact I think I speak for most of us when I say we're impressed.

And really, any afternoon that generates blackmail worthy pictures is a successful afternoon in my book

Forum Explorer
2012-02-19, 01:26 AM
The Fanfic I'm attempting to write (I really need a title for this thing)
"What?!" Spike coughed spraying bits of sapphire across the breakfast table. Shooting a look of disbelief at Twilight he continued "You want to do more research on the Want it, Need it Spell? Last time you cast that spell you caused all of Ponyville to riot!" Spike practically shouted at Twilight.

"Exactly Spike" Twilight replied, waving a hoof as if to brush away Spike's concerns. "That spell isn't designed to work like that and I want to figure out what went wrong."

"Uh-uh, no way. I don't want to end up as a love crazed zombie." Spike shook his head adamantly.

"Well how about this? I cast an anti-magic spell on you first so you'll be immune and that way you can supervise and make sure things don't get out of hand." Twilight offered

"I don't know Twilight, it still seems like a bad idea"

"Pleeeeease Spike." Twilight's eyes watered up with fake tears and her lip began to wobble.

"Fine, fine. But one more condition! We tell Princess Celestia what we're doing first, so she can keep an eye on things in case I can't handle."

"Alright Spike, take a note.

Dear Princess Celestia,

I'm writing this letter at the insistence of my assistant Spike. I'm planning on casting the Want it Need it spell again in order to find out what went wrong last time. I plan on taking ever precaution including shielding Spike from magic. Spike thought that informing you should be one of these precautions in case you have to intervene again. I have ever confidence that it won't be necessary. You can expect another report describing all I've learned about this spell after I perfect it in perfect safety.

Your Faithful Student,

Twilight Sparkle.

Ok Spike send it, and start grabbing books. Lets start with Clover's Compendium of Classic Castings."

--------------------------------------------

Twilight hummed in contentment as she finished reading the last page of the book. Getting up she stretched to work out some of the kinks of staying still for so long.

"Spike? Spiiiike?" She called

"Yes Twilight, what is it?" Spike replied hurrying over from where he was sorting his gem collection

"I've figured out what I did wrong last time!" Twilight said humming some more and doing a little victory dance. Spike couldn't help but smile at her antics.

"So what did you find out?" Spike asked after a few moments.

"Oh right! I figured out that last time I cast the spell I did everything right, except that I used far far too much power." Twilight said coming back down to reality.

"How much more power?"

"......."

"Sorry what was that?"

"About a hundred times too much." Twilight admitted sheepishly "The spell is only meant to make the selected ponies love whatever the target of the spell is, not turn them into love crazed zombies."

"So you mean you've always been casting that spell wrong but last time was particularly bad? How are they supposed to act?"

"Apparently completely normally, just as if they had naturally fallen in love. Its all supposed to be very subtle."

".... For some reason that actually seems scarier then the love crazed zombies" Spike's scales clicked in his version of a shiver.

"Oh Spike you worry too much" Twilight rubbed his head affectionately. "Everything is going to be fine, I just need to cast the spell as a trial and we can study something else. All I need now is a test subject."

"What's this about a test subject? Why would you want to be test somepony? Tests are Bor-ing! I mean I"

"Ah! Pinkie Pie! Where did you come from?" Twilight shouted, turning around in surprise.

"Sugercube Corner, duh. I mean where else would I come from? What a silly question Twilight you already know where I live. So mabey you meant where I came from originally?"

"N-nevermind Pinkie! Just what do you want?" Twilight reeled back, a little stunned by the sheer velocity of Pinkie's speech.

"I'm throwing a party and you have to be there! And no buts Twilight, you've spent the last two weeks working on this project of yours and we have barely seen you at all. Besides you have to come! Me and Applejack have finally created Sweet Apple Cider Cupcakes! It has almonds in it Twilight! Almonds!" Pinkie's eyes bugged out a little as she pressed her face up to Twilight's for a second. "Anyways its the first official testing and I want my bestest friends to all be there! Though spoiler alert; the cupcakes are delicious." Pinkie started to bounce around Twilight as she kept talking.

"Applejack and I" Twilight corrected automatically before her brain caught up with Pinkie, "An Apple Cider Cupcake? That sounds pretty good, and I've finished the book research anyways, I just need to test the spell. So yes I'll be there Pinkie!" Twilight said with her stomach slightly grumbling.

"Great, see ya at eight!" And with that Pinkie bounced back out of the library.
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Pinkie's party was a smashing success as always. The music was a perfect blend of classic and modern hits, even featuring the latest hit from OctaviaxScratch Productions. 'Guppy's Pick' Punch was as tasty as ever and this time with 100% less gator! But the real hit of the party were the Apple Cider Cupcakes. Pinkie had thought ahead and baked them in such large amounts that they initially had formed a miniature Ponyville in the middle of Surgarcube Corner. Initially, because as soon as the party began Rainbow Dash had begun devouring them. She had already polished her own home off as well as Town Hall and now was working her way through the cupcake bounty of Sweet Apple Acres. The others had eaten their fair share of the cupcake town and were now just having a good time, either on the dance floor or just talking to each other.

"So what have ya been working on these last few weeks sugarcube?" Applejack asked with a cup of punch balanced on her hat.

"Well remember that Want it Need it spell? I've figured out why it went so horribly wrong last time." Twilight replied.

"An' what's that?"

"I simply used far too much power. Now I'd like to cast it again to see what it the effects are when its working properly. But Spike's already said no and I doubt anypony is willing to let me even try!" Twilight complained.

"Well shucks, can ya blame em? Nopony wants to be a love crazed zombie."

"The spell isn't supposed to that! It's apparently much more subtle but I don't know what that means." Twilight explained hanging her head low in weariness.

Applejack just stared at Twilight. On one hoof she felt bad for the purple mare. On the other hoof, she didn't exactly want to be a love crazed zombie. But if Twilight got too frustrated she might take it in her head to just cast the spell on some unwitting pony. It was Applejack's duty, no her privilege to bite the bullet for all of Ponyville.

"Shoot, Ah think Ah'll regret this but Ah reckon you can cast the spell on me." Applejack volunteered with a gulp.

"Really?!" Twilight beamed at Applejack

"But you promise me right now that if Ah'm actin the least bit odd you'll stop the spell immediately, got it?"

"Cross my heart, hope to fly, stick a cupcake in my eye! Thank you Applejack! I promise nothing bad will happen."

Suddenly Pinkie Pie rushed over

"Hi girls! Whatcha talking about? Twilight's smiling so it must be funny or good news! Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me!" She said with her usual speed.

"Applejack volunteered to help me test the new improved Want it Need it Spell. " Twilight explained loudly

Now all of their friends were crowded around them, talking excitedly.

"Darling are you sure about this? Hearts aren't something you should be trifling with"

"I can't wait! This is going to be so awesome! Seeing Applejack mooning over some object is going to be so funny"

"good luck, Twilight. Um, do you mind if I watch as well. I-if you don't mind that is.

"This is going to be so much fun! So when are you casting the spell?"

Applejack just facehooved at the attention. Her little favor to Twilight just got turned into a spectacle for all of their friends. At least Applebloom and Big Mac won't be there. She consoled herself.

"I don't see why not. I was thinking of beginning testing first thing tommorow morning, if that's alright with you Applejack?"

"Sure, might as well get this over with quickly." Applejack replied, her voice muffled by her hoof.

The girls chatted some more, excited about what the morning would bring. Nopony was paying attention to Spike who decided to sneak out and write an emergency letter to the Princess.

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So what do you think so far?




More New episode stuff
Pinkie Pie scares me more then any other pony. She just replaced a statue of Celestia with herself and is also the only pony that has access to heavy artillery.

Also where did the Pinkie Pie being related to Loki thing start?

Thanqol
2012-02-19, 01:42 AM
It brings me joy. It gives me structure from which to appreciate things. For many, it defines existence.

No answer that shows an understanding of joy and self can be incorrect.


This is, to me, flawed (if understandable).
The subcutaneous and intervisceral fascia around and between your guts has a measurable if enigmatic tendency to communicate with itself by conducting electrical and chemical impulses from and to the CNS. Quite literally, scientists are investigating the veracity of a 'gut feeling' where sensations in your viscera related to moral or ethical decisions influence your actions. Is this thinking?

A reflex stems from your body receiving stimuli which fire nervous impulses that stop at your spinal cord without following all the way through to the brain before rebounding. You flinch or react literally outside the purview of the physical brain. Is this thinking?

What's the difference between thought and not thought? When is the mind off and when are you just unaware of the mind being on?

To me the answer is screaming. A proper kai shout is the obliteration of all that is not focus. It's no longer a potential, or even a reflexive response, it is action.


Physical actions as opposite of thought is a fallacy. At best it can be viewed like the yinyang, where there is a little of the other in the one. My favorite moment in martial arts came when I ticked off a sparring partner and they got into my space. I fended them off, but it was mostly unconscious. I would guard or strike and my thoughts noticed afterwards. The body moved and thought issued like thunder. But this does not preclude thinking being a part of what I did; I very clearly recall gauging openings, spacing and timing with my conscious mind. They were simultaneous, and just like the mind is used to sound coming a touch after a visual, the simultaneity threw off my perceptions. But I can be reasonably certain that's what it was.

One can be so full of action, of doing, that one no longer 'thinks'. This is the point of drilling. It is the sound of one hand clapping, after all. The hand does not clap, and then think about the sound, and then issue it. They are all one thing. But this requires "thought" to be a distraction. It requires calling the ocean "just a bunch of waves" and ignoring its depths and currents, different salinities and temperatures and densities. It requires an insufficient understanding of what 'thinking' is.

This is why you're a Thyrsus, by the way. You say you're an Arcanthus but everything you've ever said contradicts it.


I would also like to say that unlike a computer language, human thought is capable of discerning its own weak points. That is the very point of 'meta'! Abstraction and concretion as a sliding scale, symbolism; the ability to think about thinking itself is a keystone of what defines sentience.

I counter with an appeal to the Philosophy of Language - are we thinking about thinking or are we thinking about an idea we correlate with thinking? When you think about thinking you're doing it in the structures of language, which means you're thinking about words and are confined by the limitations of your words.

How would you think about thinking without using words as a medium?


Only 270 minutes, until the episode and all of its delicious spoilers
*BANG* MASK SHALLBE MINE!

Mask: "You don't have the poetry to catch me."


No, Phoe, I still don't know why they mine acid. Ponies are weird.[/color]

You kidding? Just think about what would happen if all that acid got into the groundwater!


The best advice I've ever received on how to give a good performance is that thinking is the worst thing you can ever do, and that you must never lose your concentration.

Applies remarkably broadly, really.

SiuiS
2012-02-19, 01:55 AM
Tangential to current conversation: DnD classes for the mane 6. (in order of best pony-ness)

Pinkie: Bard, so much bard
Rarity: Rogue
Twilight: Wizard (dragonling familiar)
Fluttershy: Druid
Rainbow Dash: Barbarian
Applejack: Cleric of Celestia

I cannon stomach fluttershy as a Druid until younger to 4e, where it's rather watered down.



I don't really see Rarity being a rogue. She may have the obsession with shiny objects normally attributed to rogues, but she doesn't fight or otherwise act anything like them. I'd almost put her in Bard as well, just dealing with social manipulation instead of the party buffs that Pinkie specializes in.

Skill monkey? Diplomacy/sense motive/bluff on skill list? Doesn't play music for a living? That fits rogue.



As a general rule, I think this is fine, though Sense motive does seem to be a bit of an edge case, since it is knowledge of people, could probably be learned through interactions, but is Wis based.


Pony D&D Classes
Rarity- Beguiler, Enchantment/Social specialist
Twilight- Wizard
Fluttershy: Druid with good Cha and high Handle Animal.
Pinkie Pie: Bard
Rainbow Dash: Warblade (she's got an actually decent int score, can read and does the showboating attitude very well)
Applejack: Paladin- strict code of honor, tries to help everyone, greatest fear is failure to do her duty, though I could see some kind of Ranger multiclass for Knowledge(nature)

Rarity doesn't do any of that with her magic, though.


Remember, she at managed to convince what had to at least be a Mature Adult dragon to let her into his lair. Girl's got skills.

That's nothing. Plenty of dragons will let food Ito the lair. It's gettin out that's hard (and often requires evasion!)

I think it depends on a lot of factors. Like, say, edition?
1st edition had some implicit setting guidlines. Like rangers being given their powers by their racial gods in order to take the fight to enemies of humanity. Required to be good, but not Nice? Woodsy? Martial? Handles threats to civilization? That's Applejack.

Moving up, we get Pinkie, who fits hard in 2nd and 3rd, but not 4th.

Rarity has the most possible choices. In 3e, she could be a rogue who is played well. She could be a monk (grace, poise, insight, kicks a manticore in the face) with a focus on social skills before brute force. She could be a Courtier, seeing as their level 1 class ability is "Wealth, Talent, Style & Grace". Courtier is probably the best bet.

Twilight is probably best as a Cleric. (magic and Sun domains). She has a very reverent feel to how she handles the science. Cleric of Celwstia makes loads of sense to me. Cloistered I suppose.

Rainbow Dash would have to be either Warblade or Swashbuckler. Though kudos, wouldn't have thought of Warblade on my own.

Fluttershy tends to elude me. I want to say 'adept' because she's not good at very much. That's kind of the point; fluttershy is know for being "cute" which is based on how she's played not her stats. And for anyone who says "but animals! She talks to them!" we'll,
1) most animals can talk back
2) that's only a feat away for ANY character, if it's important to them. And it only requires a single rank in Handle Animal, which is a skill even fighters get, to be able to train them to respond like she does.

I also insist Spike is a cohort, not a familiar.


The best advice I've ever received on how to give a good performance is that thinking is the worst thing you can ever do, and that you must never lose your concentration.

again, it depends on how you define thinking. Doesn't concentration require thought? Laser focused narrow minded thought is still thought. If thought is impulses going through the brain, it's thought. If its letting something else take over (which I tend to see as an argument for further dimensions to a living being, but we've had this discussion) then there's a good chance it's still thought.

Don't think, just do is a way to focus.

Forum Explorer
2012-02-19, 01:58 AM
Hm. Midnight keeps trying to get meto move to Canada, but I recently found out she's trying to get Phoe to move to Canada too.

I suspect it's because we both said slavery as a pony is about as good as paradise here. She wants us for the acid mines.

No, Phoe, I still don't know why they mine acid. Ponies are weird.

Yes. All of the bronies must come to Canada. For it is the place with the ponies.

Eakin
2012-02-19, 02:04 AM
The Fanfic I'm attempting to write (I really need a title for this thing)
"What?!" Spike coughed spraying bits of sapphire across the breakfast table. Shooting a look of disbelief at Twilight he continued "You want to do more research on the Want it, Need it Spell? Last time you cast that spell you caused all of Ponyville to riot!" Spike practically shouted at Twilight.

"Exactly Spike" Twilight replied, waving a hoof as if to brush away Spike's concerns. "That spell isn't designed to work like that and I want to figure out what went wrong."

"Uh-uh, no way. I don't want to end up as a love crazed zombie." Spike shook his head adamantly.

"Well how about this? I cast an anti-magic spell on you first so you'll be immune and that way you can supervise and make sure things don't get out of hand." Twilight offered

"I don't know Twilight, it still seems like a bad idea"

"Pleeeeease Spike." Twilight's eyes watered up with fake tears and her lip began to wobble.

"Fine, fine. But one more condition! We tell Princess Celestia what we're doing first, so she can keep an eye on things in case I can't handle."

"Alright Spike, take a note.

Dear Princess Celestia,

I'm writing this letter at the insistence of my assistant Spike. I'm planning on casting the Want it Need it spell again in order to find out what went wrong last time. I plan on taking ever precaution including shielding Spike from magic. Spike thought that informing you should be one of these precautions in case you have to intervene again. I have ever confidence that it won't be necessary. You can expect another report describing all I've learned about this spell after I perfect it in perfect safety.

Your Faithful Student,

Twilight Sparkle.

Ok Spike send it, and start grabbing books. Lets start with Clover's Compendium of Classic Castings."

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Twilight hummed in contentment as she finished reading the last page of the book. Getting up she stretched to work out some of the kinks of staying still for so long.

"Spike? Spiiiike?" She called

"Yes Twilight, what is it?" Spike replied hurrying over from where he was sorting his gem collection

"I've figured out what I did wrong last time!" Twilight said humming some more and doing a little victory dance. Spike couldn't help but smile at her antics.

"So what did you find out?" Spike asked after a few moments.

"Oh right! I figured out that last time I cast the spell I did everything right, except that I used far far too much power." Twilight said coming back down to reality.

"How much more power?"

"......."

"Sorry what was that?"

"About a hundred times too much." Twilight admitted sheepishly "The spell is only meant to make the selected ponies love whatever the target of the spell is, not turn them into love crazed zombies."

"So you mean you've always been casting that spell wrong but last time was particularly bad? How are they supposed to act?"

"Apparently completely normally, just as if they had naturally fallen in love. Its all supposed to be very subtle."

".... For some reason that actually seems scarier then the love crazed zombies" Spike's scales clicked in his version of a shiver.

"Oh Spike you worry too much" Twilight rubbed his head affectionately. "Everything is going to be fine, I just need to cast the spell as a trial and we can study something else. All I need now is a test subject."

"What's this about a test subject? Why would you want to be test somepony? Tests are Bor-ing! I mean I"

"Ah! Pinkie Pie! Where did you come from?" Twilight shouted, turning around in surprise.

"Sugercube Corner, duh. I mean where else would I come from? What a silly question Twilight you already know where I live. So mabey you meant where I came from originally?"

"N-nevermind Pinkie! Just what do you want?" Twilight reeled back, a little stunned by the sheer velocity of Pinkie's speech.

"I'm throwing a party and you have to be there! And no buts Twilight, you've spent the last two weeks working on this project of yours and we have barely seen you at all. Besides you have to come! Me and Applejack have finally created Sweet Apple Cider Cupcakes! It has almonds in it Twilight! Almonds!" Pinkie's eyes bugged out a little as she pressed her face up to Twilight's for a second. "Anyways its the first official testing and I want my bestest friends to all be there! Though spoiler alert; the cupcakes are delicious." Pinkie started to bounce around Twilight as she kept talking.

"Applejack and I" Twilight corrected automatically before her brain caught up with Pinkie, "An Apple Cider Cupcake? That sounds pretty good, and I've finished the book research anyways, I just need to test the spell. So yes I'll be there Pinkie!" Twilight said with her stomach slightly grumbling.

"Great, see ya at eight!" And with that Pinkie bounced back out of the library.
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Pinkie's party was a smashing success as always. The music was a perfect blend of classic and modern hits, even featuring the latest hit from OctaviaxScratch Productions. 'Guppy's Pick' Punch was as tasty as ever and this time with 100% less gator! But the real hit of the party were the Apple Cider Cupcakes. Pinkie had thought ahead and baked them in such large amounts that they initially had formed a miniature Ponyville in the middle of Surgarcube Corner. Initially, because as soon as the party began Rainbow Dash had begun devouring them. She had already polished her own home off as well as Town Hall and now was working her way through the cupcake bounty of Sweet Apple Acres. The others had eaten their fair share of the cupcake town and were now just having a good time, either on the dance floor or just talking to each other.

"So what have ya been working on these last few weeks sugarcube?" Applejack asked with a cup of punch balanced on her hat.

"Well remember that Want it Need it spell? I've figured out why it went so horribly wrong last time." Twilight replied.

"An' what's that?"

"I simply used far too much power. Now I'd like to cast it again to see what it the effects are when its working properly. But Spike's already said no and I doubt anypony is willing to let me even try!" Twilight complained.

"Well shucks, can ya blame em? Nopony wants to be a love crazed zombie."

"The spell isn't supposed to that! It's apparently much more subtle but I don't know what that means." Twilight explained hanging her head low in weariness.

Applejack just stared at Twilight. On one hoof she felt bad for the purple mare. On the other hoof, she didn't exactly want to be a love crazed zombie. But if Twilight got too frustrated she might take it in her head to just cast the spell on some unwitting pony. It was Applejack's duty, no her privilege to bite the bullet for all of Ponyville.

"Shoot, Ah think Ah'll regret this but Ah reckon you can cast the spell on me." Applejack volunteered with a gulp.

"Really?!" Twilight beamed at Applejack

"But you promise me right now that if Ah'm actin the least bit odd you'll stop the spell immediately, got it?"

"Cross my heart, hope to fly, stick a cupcake in my eye! Thank you Applejack! I promise nothing bad will happen."

Suddenly Pinkie Pie rushed over

"Hi girls! Whatcha talking about? Twilight's smiling so it must be funny or good news! Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me!" She said with her usual speed.

"Applejack volunteered to help me test the new improved Want it Need it Spell. " Twilight explained loudly

Now all of their friends were crowded around them, talking excitedly.

"Darling are you sure about this? Hearts aren't something you should be trifling with"

"I can't wait! This is going to be so awesome! Seeing Applejack mooning over some object is going to be so funny"

"good luck, Twilight. Um, do you mind if I watch as well. I-if you don't mind that is.

"This is going to be so much fun! So when are you casting the spell?"

Applejack just facehooved at the attention. Her little favor to Twilight just got turned into a spectacle for all of their friends. At least Applebloom and Big Mac won't be there. She consoled herself.

"I don't see why not. I was thinking of beginning testing first thing tommorow morning, if that's alright with you Applejack?"

"Sure, might as well get this over with quickly." Applejack replied, her voice muffled by her hoof.

The girls chatted some more, excited about what the morning would bring. Nopony was paying attention to Spike who decided to sneak out and write an emergency letter to the Princess.

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So what do you think so far?




More New episode stuff
Pinkie Pie scares me more then any other pony. She just replaced a statue of Celestia with herself and is also the only pony that has access to heavy artillery.

Also where did the Pinkie Pie being related to Loki thing start?

Probably with "Okie Dokie Loki!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxsuR6hSIQE)

Story! Good thing I'm in writer mode tonight, wrapping up a fic of my own.


I'm not convinced we need to see Twilight's report to the princess. It doesn't tell us anything we don't know. She can certainly still send the report, just don't transcribe the entire thing to us.

If you do want to keep it, I'd put some sort of action between that and Twilight beginning to gather up books for research. It's already a long speech bubble

"except that I used far far too much power."
I would actually have her say "a little bit too much power" and then hit us with the 100x too much bit a few lines later. Especially since she's ashamed to admit it.

So mabey you meant where I came from originally?
Maybe you meant "maybe." And you've got an opening here to make Pinkie start talking about the birds and the bees. Potential comedy gold.

Spike's scales clicked in his version of a shiver.
I would drop "his version of." We've seen Spike shudder in show. It's not super unnatural looking. Maybe "Twilight heard Spike's scales clicking as he shuddered."

you've spent the last two weeks working on this project of yours
Two weeks are supposed to have passed? Indicate that sooner, I had assumed Twi had been studying for a single afternoon or so. Try to find a way to do so more naturally than having a character say it right out, like:

"Twilight hummed in contentment as she finished reading the last page of the book. Getting up she stretched to work out some of the kinks of staying still for so long. Two solid weeks of nothing but reading had wreaked havoc on her posture."

"Tests are Bor-ing! I mean I"
Even if Pinkie is continuing to speak, you need at least a hyphen to end this line

"Shoot, Ah think Ah'll regret this but Ah reckon you can cast the spell on me." Applejack volunteered with a gulp.
I know you would usually capitalize "I" but you don't need to capitalize all the "a"s in those "ah"s

That's all I got right now. Title's going to depend a lot on what direction you ultimately want to take this in, but "Wanted, Needed" would probably fit a lot of them. Looking forward to more.

SiuiS
2012-02-19, 02:32 AM
Thanqol Philosophical debates are best philosophical debates. It's interesting being on the receiving end of such selfless antagonism.



What's the difference between thought and not thought? When is the mind off and when are you just unaware of the mind being on?

Again, it depends on how you define thinking. Does the mind exist separate from thinking? Yes and no. As a function of parallel processing on a gross level, the mind does not exist. It is an artefact of how rains compile information. Once the circuit stops, it's wiped.

The difference between thought and not thought would perforce be as arbitrary as the difference between thought and action. To use your later bit, it exists only because we needed to define the concept, and caused frission. A human being is a human being. Mind body and soul, humors and vapors and biomedical and meridian and Ayurvedic systems are all paradigms, frames of reference for joint understanding and transmission of data.

Of what is a pony? Is it the colors on the screen given animation by usual scan rate? Does your conception and memory of them matter at all?
These two have discrete answers if I recall. Thy seem like trite rephrasings of standard first-year philosoph questions. But I think thy help with my point.


To me the answer is screaming. A proper kai shout is the obliteration of all that is not focus. It's no longer a potential, or even a reflexive response, it is action.

This will require reflection.



This is why you're a Thyrsus, by the way. You say you're an Arcanthus but everything you've ever said contradicts it.

I've said the wizard was Acanthus. The man for who a person's legacy, their memory as passed on by others is who they are. Who grappled with whether or not he was real, and came up not caring; a work of fiction or a arm of truth need only be consistent internally, and should be more concerned with the value of their narrative.

It is a perspective I find myself sadly distanced from, but change is inevitable. He has told me I do not need him any more, though I may when I have progeny. Stories are what a man is built on, and words and names.

There is too much to say here for there to be meaningful discussion. Trust that unless breaking people down so they could restructure minimally and efficiently is a Thyrsus trait, I have come a long way in a short time - about a year and a half.



I counter with an appeal to the Philosophy of Language - are we thinking about thinking or are we thinking about an idea we correlate with thinking? When you think about thinking you're doing it in the structures of language, which means you're thinking about words and are confined by the limitations of your words.

How would you think about thinking without using words as a medium?

Not a rebuttal, but an obfuscation. It doesn't matter that language facilitates thought about thought. It is still thought about thought. And as I can still (though rarely, nowadays) think entirely without words, and ind structuring my thoughts in language to be tedious at times, that thought itself is not a function of language. Unless we accept that I am unique in this regard.



Mask: "You don't have the poetry to catch me."


Possibly true, and possibly false.
Either way, big words coming from one who sails the purple lake of loneliness.
:smalltongue:



You kidding? Just think about what would happen if all that acid got into the groundwater!

Hm.

Kindablue
2012-02-19, 02:35 AM
Applies remarkably broadly, really.I never applied it; I murdered it and used its corpse as a stepping stool to get a bit farther up Parnassus. For me it wasn't really useful knowledge by itself, but it did force me to examine everything I was doing critically and come to a conclusion that I can't meaningfully articulate in words. The uselessness of the paradox was useful.



again, it depends on how you define thinking. Doesn't concentration require thought? Laser focused narrow minded thought is still thought. If thought is impulses going through the brain, it's thought. If its letting something else take over (which I tend to see as an argument for further dimensions to a living being, but we've had this discussion) then there's a good chance it's still thought.

Don't think, just do is a way to focus.

I like arguing with you, so I tried really hard to find some cracked ground in that post, but I couldn't, and I don't think this is a great place to go deeper into whatever "letting something else take over" means. Thoughts aren't "potentials." They're every bit the action a bowel movement is, and usually every bit as important.

Thanqol
2012-02-19, 02:56 AM
Thanqol Philosophical debates are. Eat philosophical debates. It's interesting being on the receiving end of such selfless antagonism.

SiuiS philosophical debates are occasionally highlighted by your failure to purchase a real computer.


Again, it depends on how you define thinking. Does the mind exist separate from thinking? Yes and no. As a function of parallel processing on a gross level, the mind does not exist. It is an artefact of how rains compile information. Once the circuit stops, it's wiped.

The difference between thought and not thought would perforce be as arbitrary as the difference between thought and action. To use your later bit, it exists only because we needed to define the concept, and caused frission. A human being is a human being. Mind body and soul, humors and vapors and biomedical and meridian and Ayurvedic systems are all paradigms, frames of reference for joint understanding and transmission of data.

Humanity is different from thought. I think humanity ultimately stems from the desire to communicate.


Of what is a pony? Is it the colors on the screen given animation by usual scan rate? Does your conception and memory of them matter at all?
These two have discrete answers if I recall. Thy seem like trite rephrasings of standard first-year philosoph questions. But I think thy help with my point.

A pony is a marshmallow with attitude.


This will require reflection.

Cicero was said to have trained his orator's voice by shouting down the ocean. I think that's my favourite training scene of all time.


There is too much to say here for there to be meaningful discussion. Trust that unless breaking people down so they could restructure minimally and efficiently is a Thyrsus trait, I have come a long way in a short time - about a year and a half.

Anything can be in any path. Paths aren't what you do. It's why you do it.


Not a rebuttal, but an obfuscation. It doesn't matter that language facilitates thought about thought. It is still thought about thought. And as I can still (though rarely, nowadays) think entirely without words, and ind structuring my thoughts in language to be tedious at times, that thought itself is not a function of language. Unless we accept that I am unique in this regard.

Good catch on the obfuscation. We can change our own programming. Even though I can't comprehend my limits, I can be people who can.


Possibly true, and possibly false.
Either way, big words coming from one who sails the purple lake of loneliness.
:smalltongue:

Mask: *Turns bright red.* "fine you win just shut up"


I never applied it; I murdered it and used its corpse as a stepping stool to get a bit farther up Parnassus. For me it wasn't really useful knowledge by itself, but it did force me to examine everything I was doing critically and come to a conclusion that I can't meaningfully articulate in words. The uselessness of the paradox was useful.

Good man. Words only have the value we give them, and that you could use them to produce value is a good thing.

otakuryoga
2012-02-19, 03:09 AM
Also where did the Pinkie Pie being related to Loki thing start?

Pinkie Pie and her relationship to Loki is explained here...
http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2011/266/3/3/granny_pie_by_rannva-d4aoqs1.jpg

SiuiS
2012-02-19, 03:23 AM
I never applied it; I murdered it and used its corpse as a stepping stool to get a bit farther up Parnassus. For me it wasn't really useful knowledge by itself, but it did force me to examine everything I was doing critically and come to a conclusion that I can't meaningfully articulate in words. The uselessness of the paradox was useful.

Neat. I envy your ability to say that so clearly. Which is probably ironic.



I like arguing with you, so I tried really hard to find some cracked ground in that post, but I couldn't, and I don't think this is a great place to go deeper into whatever "letting something else take over" means. Thoughts aren't "potentials." They're every bit the action a bowel movement is, and usually every bit as important.

Ah, now I fear I have shifted the tone of things, when I only meant that the general principles from or prior conversation applied. Sorry.

Letting something else take over... Is it possible to train music to the point of being a reflex? Where the sensory input hits the base of the skull by doesn't go much farther, like when you get hit in the knee? That would literally( I think, be letting something else take over.

Also, and sorry I'd this is pedantic, but I came up against a wall when thinking through how to answer you. What is an action? All the definitions I could think of we're wrong. Which is a segue, luckily, as being ignorant tends to make me uncomfortable.

Almost everything looks different when viewed closely and critically. My contention is that while everyone else tends to discard the initial, more symbolic impression for the in-depth one, I recognize that sometimes te layperson's view is more broadly useful. It's just hard to find balance, as people gravitate towards disturbing ignorance, or utterly discarding the rind when they get to the meats of the science fruit.

I find your description of thought as action powerful, though.


SiuiS philosophical debates are occasionally highlighted by your failure to purchase a real computer.

Sometimes? Besides, it's only a failure if said purchase is a success
Yeah ok I've got nothin'.



Humanity is different from thought. I think humanity ultimately stems from the desire to communicate.

My initial premise is to disagree but that is a much more elegant solution.

I was more drawing attention to differing viewpoints not being unequal.



A pony is a marshmallow with attitude.


I thought that was a power ranger? Oh wait teenager my bad.



Anything can be in any path. Paths aren't what you do. It's why you do it.


I know that. I can only assume that my response was inadequate. This is further clouded by my not being able to tell you. At best guess, I do what I do to help humanity grow. To strengthen my tribe, but not at expense of others. Being top of the heap is an outdated model, though a strong one. I have difficulty shaking it. I have difficulty wanting to shake it.



Good catch on the obfuscation. We can change our own programming. Even though I can't comprehend my limits, I can be people who can.


I'm kicking myself because I thought the same thing yesterday, almost exactly. Except as a paragraph and not a sentence. You win this round, Thanqol.



Mask: *Turns bright red.* "fine you win just shut up"


If it makes you feel better, it's just because I'm jealous. That lake was a damn master stroke, as was being prepared for such an eventuality.



Good man. Words only have the value we give them, and that you could use them to produce value is a good thing.

Fourth iteration response: ow.

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-19, 03:30 AM
I counter with an appeal to the Philosophy of Language - are we thinking about thinking or are we thinking about an idea we correlate with thinking? When you think about thinking you're doing it in the structures of language, which means you're thinking about words and are confined by the limitations of your words.I don't want to get into the full philosophical debate, because as far as personal views go we are likely to be worlds apart. However, I would like to state that in my opinion, if I were thinking within the limitations of my language, I would not have so much difficulty putting my thoughts into coherent words. I resort to internal dialogue and debate just to get a handle on the concepts that form in my head sometimes. Perhaps that's because I'm very far from being a writer. And because my vocabulary isn't particularly expansive, in both languages I know.

In addition, it may just be me going crazy. It's one thing to have an internal debate with yourself. It's another thing entirely to have lengthy mental discussions with an array of virtual characters. Once you get to the point where you are getting helpful psychological advice from an imaginary psychologist, it may be too late to seek out actual professional help. :P The fact that said psychologist "just happens" to take the form of a lavender unicorn pony doesn't help matters at all, but is at least explainable, all other things considered.

Thanqol
2012-02-19, 03:47 AM
My initial premise is to disagree but that is a much more elegant solution.


I'm kicking myself because I thought the same thing yesterday, almost exactly. Except as a paragraph and not a sentence. You win this round, Thanqol.

Transmute Philosophy to Catchphrase . Prime 4.


I know that. I can only assume that my response was inadequate. This is further clouded by my not being able to tell you. At best guess, I do what I do to help humanity grow. To strengthen my tribe, but not at expense of others. Being top of the heap is an outdated model, though a strong one. I have difficulty shaking it. I have difficulty wanting to shake it.

Hmm, your political ideals are more emblematic of Orders (Adamantine Arrow, by the way). Path is enlightenment; your path to the Supernal. It's not a case of what you want to achieve but something deeper than that, the baseline why you do things.


If it makes you feel better, it's just because I'm jealous. That lake was a damn master stroke, as was being prepared for such an eventuality.

Makes you wonder what other scenarios I've prepared for, doesn't it?


Fourth iteration response: ow.

Victory.


I don't want to get into the full philosophical debate, because as far as personal views go we are likely to be worlds apart. However, I would like to state that in my opinion, if I were thinking within the limitations of my language, I would not have so much difficulty putting my thoughts into coherent words. I resort to internal dialogue and debate just to get a handle on the concepts that form in my head sometimes. Perhaps that's because I'm very far from being a writer. And because my vocabulary isn't particularly expansive, in both languages I know.

Consider dreams. Why is it when you try to explain a dream to someone else using words that it always feels so inadequate? So disjointed? Like you're not doing justice to the dream, and at the end of the explanation you feel kind of silly?

The point is that sometimes thought surpasses all words, familiar structures, and all the context that makes language possible.


In addition, it may just be me going crazy. It's one thing to have an internal debate with yourself. It's another thing entirely to have lengthy mental discussions with an array of virtual characters. Once you get to the point where you are getting helpful psychological advice from an imaginary psychologist, it may be too late to seek out actual professional help. :P The fact that said psychologist "just happens" to take the form of a lavender unicorn pony doesn't help matters at all, but is at least explainable, all other things considered.

We don't take kindly to split personalities around these parts. Do we girls?

*Thanqol smiles vaguely as he stares blankly into space*

You sure told him!

Kindablue
2012-02-19, 03:59 AM
Ah, now I fear I have shifted the tone of things, when I only meant that the general principles from or prior conversation applied. Sorry.

Letting something else take over... Is it possible to train music to the point of being a reflex? Where the sensory input hits the base of the skull by doesn't go much farther, like when you get hit in the knee? That would literally( I think, be letting something else take over.
Yeah, but that's part of the thing I can't really explain. The best I can get at is that you need to train enough that you can play something on reflex without any kind of deliberative mental process so that the mechanics of it don't get in the way of the art of it. It feels sort of like an engine that you only have to get started for it to do all the work, but I argue that it only feels like that. It's still my brain making every little decision, they've just become really easy for me. I'd feel like a pretentious git (yeah, yeah, too late, I know) explaining it more than that.

Thought you meant ghosts or something...


Also, and sorry I'd this is pedantic, but I came up against a wall when thinking through how to answer you. What is an action? All the definitions I could think of we're wrong. Which is a segue, luckily, as being ignorant tends to make me uncomfortable."A change that has actually happened in the real world."


Almost everything looks different when viewed closely and critically. My contention is that while everyone else tends to discard the initial, more symbolic impression for the in-depth one, I recognize that sometimes te layperson's view is more broadly useful. It's just hard to find balance, as people gravitate towards disturbing ignorance, or utterly discarding the rind when they get to the meats of the science fruit.

I find your description of thought as action powerful, though.I just wanted to make a poop joke. :<

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-19, 05:08 AM
Consider dreams. Why is it when you try to explain a dream to someone else using words that it always feels so inadequate? So disjointed? Like you're not doing justice to the dream, and at the end of the explanation you feel kind of silly?

The point is that sometimes thought surpasses all words, familiar structures, and all the context that makes language possible.That's one way to explain it. If you're one foot in the multiverse, so to speak, just about any thought process becomes a full fledged scene, which you see and hear and if you're really focused, feel. Thought is not just language, it's comprised of all forms of perception combined, language is just what you use to describe it, to others or even yourself. If you're thinking by proxy (thinking that you're thinking, or about what you're thinking), then you will indeed think in terms of your own language, losing bits and pieces as you fail to put the events into words. The actual thought goes a lot deeper than just language.


We don't take kindly to split personalities around these parts. Do we girls?

*Thanqol smiles vaguely as he stares blankly into space*

You sure told him!Well, if these were split personalities, I'd probably be fine with them.
I've got roughly five recurring characters I can call up, including one I specifically shaped for the purpose of art advice, but most of the time it's random characters pulled "from beyond the fourth wall". They form spontaneously and disappear without a trace. At least they're inobtrusive, and only appear when my thought wanders (i.e. when I'm not doing anything useful, for instance when walking on autopilot), but otherwise I'm not sure what to make of their existence.

Anyways, thoughts on rewatching the latest episode:
Not nearly as irritated by the Looney Tunes scene now, but it's still ridiculous. This and Pinkie's hoofwriting are the two things that still annoy me in this episode. For the first, I call Rule of Fun medium convention (in other words, the Fun equivalent of a Dramatization), but for the second I have no explanation. Sure, they needed Pinkie to write as she talked, but not writing at all (and implying she put it in the list) would be a better solution that having her use magnetic hooves in addition to implausible dexterity. Anyways, the song is still good (even though the final segment with all the ponies in chorus could be removed with no loss to quality), and overall the episode is still fun. For a Pinkie-centric episode, "fun" is good.

Thanqol
2012-02-19, 05:19 AM
That's one way to explain it. If you're one foot in the multiverse, so to speak, just about any thought process becomes a full fledged scene, which you see and hear and if you're really focused, feel. Thought is not just language, it's comprised of all forms of perception combined, language is just what you use to describe it, to others or even yourself. If you're thinking by proxy (thinking that you're thinking, or about what you're thinking), then you will indeed think in terms of your own language, losing bits and pieces as you fail to put the events into words. The actual thought goes a lot deeper than just language.

Oh yes, all entirely things I agree with.

My question was, taking the perspective of that multi-layered perception as true thought, what does thinking about thinking feel like?


Well, if these were split personalities, I'd probably be fine with them.
I've got roughly five recurring characters I can call up, including one I specifically shaped for the purpose of art advice, but most of the time it's random characters pulled "from beyond the fourth wall". They form spontaneously and disappear without a trace. At least they're inobtrusive, and only appear when my thought wanders (i.e. when I'm not doing anything useful, for instance when walking on autopilot), but otherwise I'm not sure what to make of their existence.

Frankly, it sounds like a fun upgrade to your mind :smallsmile:

Sean Mirrsen
2012-02-19, 05:53 AM
Oh yes, all entirely things I agree with.

My question was, taking the perspective of that multi-layered perception as true thought, what does thinking about thinking feel like?
Given the premise of thought transcending language, that question can't be adequately answered in the form of a forum post.

That said, for me it's like asking a computer what does it feel like when its logic circuits operate. It's... gah, again. My vocabulary fails me. It's... more or less it's a recursive process that produces no output. An ouroboros, going with the dragon theme. When I think about my own thinking, my mind enters a progressively unstable state, throwing out random concepts and images until I stop doing it. (For imagery, imagine a tokamak reactor plasma loop going haywire in uncertain space, lashing out with Sun-like protuberances at anything that happens to surround it. Now imagine that the energy in the loop is thought itself, the concept, and the plasma is the instanced thoughts formed by it. That's what I see.) If I approach it from a different direction, I only see my own formulae and theories for the nature of thought as perceived from the Multiverse, that is, thinking about thinking as a process, not thinking as a concept. I'm a little too analysis-inclined to see thought as anything but a process, from that standpoint.

SiuiS
2012-02-19, 06:02 AM
Hmm, your political ideals are more emblematic of Orders (Adamantine Arrow, by the way). Path is enlightenment; your path to the Supernal. It's not a case of what you want to achieve but something deeper than that, the baseline why you do things.

You misunderstand. This is the root cause of... Everything I do that is based on thought at all. It was the end result of boiling down bigger words and longer sentences. The only 'purer' form is "I do things because I can't not do those things."



Makes you wonder what other scenarios I've prepared for, doesn't it?


Well, now it does yes.


Yeah, but that's part of the thing I can't really explain. The best I can get at is that you need to train enough that you can play something on reflex without any kind of deliberative mental process so that the mechanics of it don't get in the way of the art of it. It feels sort of like an engine that you only have to get started for it to do all the work, but I argue that it only feels like that. It's still my brain making every little decision, they've just become really easy for me. I'd feel like a pretentious git (yeah, yeah, too late, I know) explaining it more than that.

Thought you meant ghosts or something...

Like walking? Or bike riding. Complex processes that eventually become rote, but are no less complex. What would be getting up, balancing, falling, catching, as well as picking up a cup, turning on a faucet, etc. are all boiled to be "I'm gonna get some water". Does that work?

And I did somewhat, but as a rhetorical device. I am much less invested in 'reality' than you, how could I argue with you what is real? We'd have to decide on what real was first. Tedious.


"A change that has actually happened in the real world."

There is that 'real' word again. A loaded one, that :smallwink:
Remarkably functional though. Thanks!


I just wanted to make a poop joke. :<

I was trying to avoid accusing you of just wanting to make a poop joke.
Meanie. Where is that peptobismal?