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Ashtagon
2012-04-08, 02:19 AM
Something I'm considering...

DR ##/whatever becomes DR ##/-.

Where a specific item or items would have bypassed DR, attacks with that type instead inflict an additional 1d6 per 5 points of DR that the creature originally had. Exception: DR that is bypassed by magic does not grant any additional vulnerability to magic weapons under this paragraph.

For example, DR 10/silver becomes DR 10/-, and the creature takes 2d6 additional damage any time it is hit by a silver weapon. DR 5/magic simply becomes DR 5/-.

Finally, a magic weapon can bypass 5 points of DR for each plus it has.

For example, a paladin is fighting a vampire (normally DR 10/silver and magic). Under this system, the vampire has DR 10/-, and takes 2d6 additional damage from a silver weapon (the magic component of the RAW DR is ignored in the conversion). The paladin's minimum "perfect" weapon would be a +2 silver weapon. The silver would inflict an additional 2d6 damage, and the +2 enhancement bonus is just enough to completely bypass the vampire's DR.

Opinions?

Eloel
2012-04-08, 04:19 AM
A non-magic silver weapon should not have 66% chance of dealing reduced damage to DR 5/Silver. Not sure how you'd fix it.

Also, the more DR someone has, the more damage you do ?!

+4 Silver Dagger doing more damage to DR 20/Silver than DR 10/Silver boggles my mind.

Also "Greater Magic Weapon" = "Bypass All DR" ?

Ashtagon
2012-04-08, 04:37 AM
A non-magic silver weapon should not have 66% chance of dealing reduced damage to DR 5/Silver. Not sure how you'd fix it.

Also, the more DR someone has, the more damage you do ?!


Yes and no. DR 5/silver becomes DR 5/- and take 1d6 extra from silver weapons. DR 10/silver becomes DR 10/- and take 2d6 extra damage from silver weapons.

However, the extra damage taken from the weapon being silver is unlikely in itself to be enough to break through the DR.


+4 Silver Dagger doing more damage to DR 20/Silver than DR 10/Silver boggles my mind.

Assuming no other bonuses, it does 1d4+4d6 (ave. 16.5) against DR 20/silver, and average 9.5 against DR 10/silver.

Yes, it does seem like more powerful creatures are taking mroe damage from the same weapon. I like to think of it as the difference between a being generally tough but having a mild allergy to silver (DR 5/silver), and being very tough but having a severe allergic reaction to silver (DR 20/silver).


Also "Greater Magic Weapon" = "Bypass All DR" ?

No. weapon enhancement bonuses bypass 5 DR for each plus. At CL 20, that's 5 pluses, so it'd bypass up to 25 points of DR. Assuming the lowest possible CL (5), it's one plus, and so bypasses 5 DR.

Overall, the key advantage of this system is that:

a) it allows for varying levels of being vulnerable to a particular nemesis material. The current DR bypass system is all or nothing. You could under this system create a monster that has, for example, DR 20 but takes only 2d6 extra damage from a silver weapon (instead of the default conversion of 4d6).
b) It makes magic weapons with high enhancement bonuses actually mean something again. Currently, players tend to stop at a +1 bonus (minimum to get any special magical weapon properties).