Base Class Challenge XII Voting Thread

[Temotei]

Welcome to the voting thread for Base Class Challenge XII, Race Race (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244379)! Voting will consist of each voter giving a first, second, and third place vote for three separate base classes.

A first place vote is worth three points, a second place vote is worth two points, and a third place vote is worth one point. You may vote for your own class.

You are encouraged to include reason with your votes, though this is not absolutely required.

The class that ends up with the most points wins the challenge contest. Voting starts now and will continue until 23:59 on July 20th.

1st Place: Son of Man, by Morph Bark
2nd Place: Trueforged, by kanachi
3rd Place: The Elder, by Quellian-dyrae

{table=head]Base Class|Author|1st|2nd|3rd|Total Points
The Elder (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13291540&postcount=5)|Quellian-dyrae|4|3|3|21
The Savage (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13305263&postcount=7)|Techwarrior|0|1|1|3
Trueforged (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13388770&postcount=9) (Feats (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13389223&postcount=10))|kanachi|6|1|6|26
Faerie Trickster (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13400120&postcount=11)*|dspeyer|0|0|0|0
Death Seeker (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13449352&postcount=12)|Aeryr|0|3|1|7
Dovahkiin (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13481487&postcount=13)|Pyromancer999|1|3|4|13
Son of Man (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13484205&postcount=14)|Morph Bark|6|6|2|32[/table]

Unfortunately, the elan (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13289386&postcount=3), dwarf (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13289422&postcount=4), changeling (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13299450&postcount=6), and gnome (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13342626&postcount=8) are not complete, so they are ineligible for voting.

*The faerie trickster, by dspeyer, has one ability missing. Since the class functions as intended (it seems), I included it in the completed section.

To dspeyer: I highly recommend capitalization next time when naming abilities and their types (Ex, Su, Sp, Ps).

[Quellian-dyrae]

First - The Elder: Obviously, I'm biased.

Second - Son of Man: I'd say it was the Trickle Fusions that pushed this one over the top for me, that's a really cool system. Definitely a strong class (I'd worry some about Spell Pounce, to be honest). Also, Disney quotes.

Third - Trueforge: I really liked the fluff on this one, and the abilities looked solid, good versatility without being overpowered. I also thought the lifespark was a clever way of handling per-encounter abilities outside of an encounter.

[malonkey1]

1: Trueforge
2: Son of Man
3: Elder

[Lizard Lord]

1:Son of Man
2: Elder
3: Dovahkiin

[Temotei]

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[JetThomasBoat]

1. Trueforged
2. Son of Man
3. Dovahkiin

[ArkenBrony]

1.) Elder- i love the use of domains and pantheons, this class has been added to my list of classes to be used in my campaign

2.) Son of Man- like this because of the class itself, was close to being #1, also added to be used in campaign

3.) Trueforge- first war forged thing to impress me, would be added if i used warforged

I blame my incomplete class on the power outage in the DelMarVa area, i am very annoyed that it happened right in the middle of me working on my class, but it's my fault for trying to do it at the last possible second

[kanachi]

1) Trueforge - I am obviously bias, but I am actually quite proud of the way the class turned out.

2) Elder - I really liked the possible applications of this class and actually fits an npc I am going to use in the near future really well. If your class hits my table it would be simply rude not to score you!

3) Dovahkiin - I liked the way Dragon shouts offer different build possibilities and open this up to be quite an interesting class. I would like to see this class evolved a bit more outside the challenge. As a big fan of Skyrim this one managed to shake off very tough competition for third spot.

As a side note I would like to give honourable mentions to the Death Seeker: I really do like the dwarf Troll slayers upon which this class draws its inspiration.

and the faerie trickster: which I would really like to see the latter class finished and evolved.

Also the Son of Man for its mechanical prowess, I am just not entirely sure of its actual application in terms of flavour. I’m not sure it’s the kind of thing I would use but I may well draw inspiration from its crunch in the future when thinking of my own builds.

[Temotei]

I blame my incomplete class on the power outage in the DelMarVa area, i am very annoyed that it happened right in the middle of me working on my class, but it's my fault for trying to do it at the last possible second

Sorry to hear that. :smallfrown:

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[Temotei]

It's been five days without a vote and we still have twelve days left. Keep the votes coming!

[Madfellow]

1: Elder
2: Son of Man
3: Trueforge

[Temotei]

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[Empedocles]

1st. Trueforge.

2nd. Dovakhiin.

3rd. Death Seeker. Sort of a boring application, but a great concept.

[Zaydos]

1st: Trueforge; warforged aren't my favorites by a long shot but I found the class looked really well done and with interesting fluff to match.
2nd: The Elder; I like racial pantheons and the idea of a pantheon priest base class.
3rd: The Child of Man; interesting concept and interesting application.

[Tanuki Tales]

1st - Son of Man.
2nd - Death Seeker.
3rd - Trueforge.

[Temotei]

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[Shadow Lord]

1st Son of Man

2nd Trueforged

3rd The Elder

[Temotei]

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[DrewVolker]

1st Trueforged - I love this classes concept and base mechanics, while I think it needs a bit of work I see great promise in this class.

2nd Death Seeker - As with the other classes I felt a attraction to this classes concept, and I think it has a solid set of mechanics behind it. Truth be told, I might just play one these, should I ever get the chance.

3rd Dovahkiin - I liked the way dragon shouts were worked into this class, along with its warrior base, I find this class quite appealing.

[Temotei]

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[Midwoka]

1st: Elder. It's astounding that a class could take so much from the character's race without being specific to a single one. It fits the theme nicely, while still being broad enough to be a base class. I probably would've given them less domains and just let them change them each morning, but marvelous other than that.

2nd: Son Of Man. 3rd: Savage. Neither of these felt very race-based, but they made a bit of effort without being so narrow as to be race-specific.


I don't mean to insult anyone who participated -- I just don't see "race" as a good theme for a base class. I'm still surprised the Elder turned out so well!

[Temotei]

Forgot to say votes tallied.

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Less than twenty-three hours left in the voting period!

[Techwarrior]

1 Dovakin While it is quite readily apparent that we of the DnD world do not, in fact, need another Dragon based class for our repertoire, I liked the feel of this class. I would suggest that the Shouts and Feats gained overlapped less, as currently they come together in clusters and then space to where they get no benefit from leveling.

2 Savage I really liked making this, and have actually given it some lower level playtesting. It does what I wanted it to. An effective 2WF Barbarian style class that doesn't use Rage (a feature I'm personally opposed to as-is in 3.5) or Two Weapon Fighting (a style that is currently sadly broken, being too feat intense to make worthwhile).

3 Son of Man I personally really enjoyed the quotes (and placed them all :smalleek: ). Further, I like the way this class feels at the moment. I definitely suggest bringing the spellcasting back from 9th level casting Morph Bark. This guy has quite a few shiny toys already, and probably doesn't need it.

[Temotei]

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[Pyromancer999]

1st: Son of Man- Not only is it an interesting class concept, but I like the way it's implemented and the mechanics are nicely done. Plus it was done in a really short amount of time, which is impressive to note.

2nd: Dovahkiin- I put in a lot of work into it, and while still not complete, I like how it's turned out so far. Still, it's not complete, so that's why I give it second place.

3rd: Trueforge- Never ever wanted to play a Warforged. Until I saw this class. While the mechanics sometimes confuse me a little, they're interesting, and adds a new dimension to the Warforged.

[Temotei]

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If you Edit the post and then scroll to the top, there's an option to delete the post. It might have a time limit.

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[Morph Bark]

Place the First: Son of Man, because I want to pat my brain on the back for managing to pump that out so fast and so beautifully. I just can't deny that I'm a little proud of that.

Place the Second: Dovahkiin, because DOVAHKIIN DOVAHKIIN NAAL OK ZIN LOS VAHRIIN. Also because Pyromancer did a pretty good job on converting the Shouts over and I'll harass him if he never touches upon the class again.

Place the Third: Trueforge, because credit where credit is due. I actually took a look at the posting history of the other entrants and saw this is apparently only the second class kanachi has posted on here, plus his first contest entry, on which he did very well.


The Elder was very well-made, but didn't entirely feel right to me from the beginning, which I can't entirely explain. I have to say it was a pretty close call with the Trueforge in the end though. I also briefly considered the Death Seeker, but it ended up being a little too much depending on abilities that were straight-up taken from official classes, making it lack in the mechanical originality of the other entries. The Dovahkiin ended up ahead of some competitors, which surprised me, as it wasn't done yet by the time I finished the Son of Man. This was like a competition filled with balls out of the left field.

[Temotei]

...wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal!
Ahrk fin norok paal graan
fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin, fah hin kogaan mu draal!

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[Lohj]

FIRST: Son Of Man, by Morph Bark

SECOND: Death Seeker, Aeryr

THIRD: The Elder, by Quellian-dyrae

[Temotei]

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