My Little Pony XLVIII: I say Ol' Chap, how about those Equestrians?

[Thanqol]

*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

[SynissterSyster]

@Maximus25

Finished part 1 and reading part 2 right now. I totally see the ship and it works. Somehow they fit. Now I am contimplating looking up more Trixie fics as she is a unique character. Neesh how many ponies will I fall in love with. First Pinkie, a crush on AJ, totally in love with RD and now Trixie. *le sigh* I am getting more attached to this show then any before and I was very deep into Sailor Moon when it was around.

Edit:

@Thanqol

Grats! Hope you keep rocking it!

[thubby]

lucky mask wearing son-of-a-changeling.

[Deadly]

*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

Party Time!

http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/275/7/d/party_pinkie_by_maxtaka-d4bkp8v.jpg (http://maxtaka.deviantart.com/art/Party-Pinkie-261306319)

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/298/f/a/party_with_pinkie_by_twilightsquare-d4dw8j3.png (http://twilightsquare.deviantart.com/art/Party-With-Pinkie-265203759)

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/050/2/f/pinkie_pie_by_thedracojayproduct-d4q852b.jpg (http://thedracojayproduct.deviantart.com/art/Pinkie-Pie-285914531)

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/166/9/6/pinkie_pie_party_canon_by_doggie999-d53kmy9.jpg (http://doggie999.deviantart.com/art/PINKIE-PIE-PARTY-CANON-308332593)

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/025/7/d/mlp__pinkie_pie_by_yukihyo-d4nkpoc.png (http://yukihyo.deviantart.com/art/MLP-Pinkie-Pie-281462268)

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/158/3/6/capoeirista_pinkie_pie_by_agu_fungus-d52nbwn.jpg (http://agu-fungus.deviantart.com/art/Capoeirista-Pinkie-Pie-306778631)

[Tvtyrant]

Friendship is dragons updated!

I rather like this concept of the DM giving a party a fairly meh map, and having them grumble about it.

Friendship if Betrayal updated!

So we have Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy with Rainbow Dash obsessions huh? This whole fandom is obsessed with her...

[Aotrs Commander]

You can anthropomorphize anything at all, but this does not change that one needs to do less to say a pony then a petunia to make this plausible. Don't you claim to be an engineer? All mammals share the same basic blueprint philosophy (actually all chordates) and its a far less radical redesign to put a sentient intelligence in a creature who's base model is the same as a known example.

When talking about the sort of Disney-fied anthropamorphism in question "plausible" is irrelevant.

But I think we're really reached the end of the point of useful discussion on this issue, at least from my end, since we're veering well away from pony into a side-topic of a side-topic...

I've said my piece, so I'll be quiet now.

For a bit.


I am very disappointed in you both. :smallannoyed: Sentience and sapience are different things, and you should feel ashamed of yourselves. Especially you, Commander. Of all people to not use the distinction, you?

Tut-tut.

Well, excuuuuse me, Princess (metaphorically), for not typing out sapient/sentient every single time like I normally do (go on, you can go and check) because I just couldn't be bothered. Well aware there's a difference, but sometimes even I can't be summon the energy to care.

[Eakin]

*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

You sure you want to tempt fate like that?

And hooray more people to watch on FiMfiction! It's so much easier to keep track of everything there than through Deviant Art

[Anarion]

*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

Congratulations. Have you looked into what to do next?


You sure you want to tempt fate like that?


One or more of his personas are literally capable of grabbing fate by its ear and dragging it kicking and screaming where they want it. He should be good.

[Kd7sov]

It may be slightly premature, but this is for Thanqol:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m63uf72igd1r29wy9o1_1280.png

[Lix Lorn]

Geez, Guys. I know the thread kinda dies after a good quote post, but this... Well, it is a holiday...

But maybe...

guys? am I the only one here? Am I really just a crazy changeling? Will the camera pan out to see me surrounded by a variety of mirrors at different distances and angles, a twisted funhouse of my own deranged psyche? I remember Celestia putting me in the dungeon all those years ago... Am I perhaps just keeping mysel going working towards some unseeable goal, surviving off the vestiges of love from my sliver personalities? Do I see Thanqol in the mirror and just not notice?

...

Guys?
*shivers, alone*
(deep kiss)
Mirrors can't use tongues.
I'm sorry braz you can have one too

[Tiki Snakes]

I'm surprised no-one brought up the Jalyrkieon APC - did no-one think it vaguely familiar...?

I have the power of super obliviousness.
I will look again, and think.




You don't ever see depicitions of trees of shrubs, cowering, unable to flee of defend themselves as evil deer tear off their bark skin and eat their extremities, do you? Of the horror of watching a wicked elephant shatter a grove of a nice acacia family, solely to scratch an itch?


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyuw4ldOBx1qcg9eno1_500.jpg
Totally not what you asked for, but yeah.

Do I get the impression that, arguably, you might secretly have become an Undead because hardcore Veganism was still just too unethical for you and Fruitarians just weren't going far enough? :smallwink:
Down with Plant Slavery!

[MCerberus]

Geez, Guys. I know the thread kinda dies after a good quote post, but this... Well, it is a holiday...

But maybe...

guys? am I the only one here? Am I really just a crazy changeling? Will the camera pan out to see me surrounded by a variety of mirrors at different distances and angles, a twisted funhouse of my own deranged psyche? I remember Celestia putting me in the dungeon all those years ago... Am I perhaps just keeping mysel going working towards some unseeable goal, surviving off the vestiges of love from my sliver personalities? Do I see Thanqol in the mirror and just not notice?

...

Guys?
*shivers, alone*

You know, that means part of your psyche wants to bring forth an endless party that should cover the world.


So you should just do that from now on.

[Aotrs Commander]

Totally not what you asked for, but yeah.

Sorta, yeah!


Do I get the impression that, arguably, you might secretly have become an Undead because hardcore Veganism was still just too unethical for you and Fruitarians just weren't going far enough? :smallwink:
Down with Plant Slavery!

Not really, I am dietarily primarily carnivore, after all. Okay maybe chocolativore. I AM Evil, after all...!

[Tiki Snakes]

And so then, a Jalyrkieon Power Trooper, trotting next to the squad APC. (One presumes that currently, the other three squad members are still inside.)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u172/AotrsCommander/JalinfandAPC.png

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/131/393/ohoq9.jpg?1307465686
...
That looks suspiciously like a slightly chubby Mako


Not really, I am dietarily primarily carnivore, after all. Okay maybe chocolativore. I AM Evil, after all...!

So if you ever reformed from your Evil Ways you'd have to give up all Food that wasn't entirey synthetic or exclusively designed by the plant to be eaten (say, as a seed-propagation technique)?

[Aotrs Commander]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/131/393/ohoq9.jpg?1307465686
...
That looks suspiciously like a slightly chubby Mako

How completely intentional...

It was a by eyeglow approximation, rather than exact (I could have, armed with teh internets, been more exact if I wanted... 'course the Jalyrkieon vehicle is significantly bigger, as it has to carry ponies.)
One of the AFVs down the line will not at all be a knock-off of Generator Rex's Providence APCs, either!


So if you ever reformed from your Evil Ways you'd have to give up all Food that wasn't entirey synthetic or exclusively designed by the plant to be eaten (say, as a seed-propagation technique)?

Ahahahahahahahaha!

Reform?!

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[Beacon of Chaos]

Well actually you need kinda the dirty mind. Cadence is the element of Love. And Shining Armor has Love as a Pet... :smalltongue: /wink /wink...

:smallsigh: I know I know
Oh, wow, that I did not see. Pet love? I wonder how that got through.


*flails everywhere*
Do try and pay attention won't you? There's a good chap.


See, I feel really bad, because I was on the other side of the room from Nicole Oliver, at an angle such that I really couldn't see her, so I have no idea whether all the people saying that she was distinctly uncomfortable are right or not.

Personal rambling spinning off that below.
See, that's one of my flaws born from a strength. I try to not blindly follow things, but that means I'm rather susceptible to mental/social attacks that imply that I'm wrong or that I missed something. Someone says that Bronycon guests were actually uncomfortable/tired/acting-for-the-Bronies? Part of me instinctively believes it and says that I'm horrible for not noticing and/or doing something about it, even though realistically there's little I could do about it.

That also kind of extends towards accusations towards the fandom, as long-time threadponies might have noticed. I still freak whenever someone implies that this fandom is worse than other fandoms. Like the hoax "Bronycon Orgy" thing that briefly circulated. Or the fact that there might be little girls trying to look up "Cupcakes" on YouTube because they liked the song. I am very easily convinced that I am a member of the worst fandom ever, even though the other one I was this deep in had incestuous underage R34 all over the place if you knew where to look.

I'm rambling. Um. The Gentleman understands that a fandom is made up of people, and that there are very fantastic people and pretty awful people in any group you care to name, but he's still afraid that he's put in his lot with a bunch of bad eggs and is frightfully insecure about his position as the 'good fox'. And he thinks that he's much worse than other people say he is, so he's very easily fooled into thinking that he's part of a bad group, or that he deserves blame for being part of something that caused other people grief, or that he's naive, even though realistically he shouldn't have to worry at all.
There's good and bad in every fandom. MLP has much more good than bad. Sadly, a few bad eggs will ultimately make the rest look bad, whether they intend to or not. Hold on to that goodness. You've seen it. You know it's there. It isn't overwritten when someone does something unsavory.


Doubt Raz? Why would you ever doubt Raz? Raz never lies or tricks or implies falsehood or anything like that. Raz is Pure and Honest.

And there are more of those videos. Go watch theeeeem.
Will do!


Geese are the ones who hold you up with brass knuckles.
?
http://kofaniv.snkplaymore.co.jp/english/character/img/main_v_geese_e.jpg


He? Crackle is totes a girl dragon. Dem eyelashes!
And what a girl she is! GRAAAWRP! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV2te9rWmSA)


This reminds me! We had lunch with Foozogz! Met a bloke, name a metacritter, an his mate Stormy Skies. Good bronies. Also, strangely well connected. We had lunch, and one of his other guests none other.

Quite the proliferation of celebrities.
Were those the guys from Chillis? I'm afraid I don't know who they were.


Yeah, sorry ^.^
S'okay. It's just like old times! :smalltongue:


I wish I could have slept for 48 hours. Or skived out of work today. Or both! But no. Kitten snuggles have suffice though.

Glad to see you're rested though. Any jetlag? Or shall I dub you the Iron Pony?
I didn't sleep until 3am last night, got up at 10.45am. Felt kinda rough, but then I had a cup of tea. A proper cup of british tea with soya milk (I like the taste better, okay?) and sugar. Heavenly. Gods I missed tea. Now I'm feelin' fine. :smallbiggrin:


Those elevators were like, mass effect all over again. They. Took. FOORRREEEVEEERRRRRR.

But nopony cared because they were tickets to awesomeville. I still remember DD jumpin to the side and peeking out the closing elevator doors. "guys, was that de Lancie?". Or ms. Faust rushing by with her five-pony security contingent. Or descending on an unsuspecting con, hands raised dramatically an getting applause.

Murder when you needed the wee fillie's room though >.<
I met Tara Strong in an elevator. She was gone before my flabbergasted brain could send a message to my hands saying "You have a camera! Ask her for a picture!". If anything those things went too fast!


Aww, you should have invited them to dinner! We love meeting new ponies.
Yes. Yes I probably should have. Unfortunately I only stayed with most of them for an hour or so. After that everyone kinda went their own way and I didn't see them again. :smallfrown:


And that drinking game. @.@

Guys? Make sure your trivia cards (MLP trading cards in this case) are factually correct about 50+% of the time before using them. Okay? Ouch. XD
I'm still impressed that they even got the names of the episodes on the wrong cards.


Right! I'll post mine when I can, y'know, reliably upload them! so, like, within a month >_<
I don't even have a card reader on my PC, so I think I need some kind of cable or adaptor. Where that is, I won't know 'til I see my Dad on Friday.

I do have some pictures on my phone though. I'll upload them in a bit.


So what if the convention wasn't roses and cupcakes while angels massaged the tension from your soul. It was fun! It was a group outing, where you could let your guard down. Who at the pony convention would mock you for liking ponies? Who at the pony convention would respond to something they don't like with "I'm not going to tolerate that."?
Oh yes this. So much this. I didn't have to pretend. Round here claiming to like ponies openly would likely mean spending my days getting things thrown at me. Things like food, or mud, or... rocks. :smallfrown:

Still, I think I can get away with wearing that t-shirt with the faces on it. I doubt anyone would question it. Might even find a few hidden bronies around here.


Hmm... Now I wonder...
Ah well. It would be hard to tell unicorn from earth pony in such resplendent armor in any case. I presume the one Celestia knighted and bequeathed the enchanted ceremonial armor to was you? For bravery in the face of astounding amounts of griffon-propelled rocks while saving school fillies?

Why there were school fillies at the con ill never know...
Why yes, it was quite an honour. The Princess told me she saw the whole thing. The armour was a wonderful gift, though a little too warm for the weather we were having.

I do hope the Princess wasn't too uncomfortable when I kissed her hoof.... thirty times. I figured if Rarity could get away with it...


:smalleek:

That. Would be. Fan. Tastic!
I know, right? The kicker would be when Trixie screws up her entrance, simply because nopony can hear her when she's standing on the Ursa's head.

"Behold, citizens of Ponyville! For I, The Grrrrreat and Powerful Trixie, have tamed the Ursa Major, just as I said I would!"

"Did you hear something?"

"Who cares!? It's an Ursa Major! Run!"


(spoilered for length)
The meet-and-greet! When not talking to any one pony I audibly searches the room for interesting tidbits. Delancie was making a bland joke, one of the groups over was debating telling Tara that Twilight was only second-best pony for lulz, and ms. Faust was answering a question.

I initially continued eaves dropping because I thought it was a good tangential discussion; she was talking about mediaeval art structure And the patterns and such of the time. In the same way that we look at an anime picture, and we understand it is a specific abstraction of a person, the artists who painted Celestia in these medieval pony times were using the style of their day. And so when she was designed, it was not intended that Celestia had pink hair, it was an abstraction by the artists.

The anime reference is mine, but the rest is pretty word for word (as close as can be coming in to the middle, and having trouble telling that the convention happened over a weekend instead of a day...) what she said. It sounded like she was surprised at the connection fans made, and while didn't want to refute it, considered it wrong in her headcanon.

Which is interesting. Ms. Faust, the creator an progenitor of our show, has headcanon. She has notions that she will readily admit may be the formula behind the visual and thematic results, but are not official or even correct in any capacity. I believe this is also where I first heard about Rarity's parents. The ponies "have parents" in the sense that they are not established as not having parents. Sweetie Belle was dropped off to establish the already-decided idea that she does not live with Rarity. During this brainstorm they thought it would be funny to have Rarity's parents be tacky. So they did it.

Applejack is also specifically called out as having parents too. They aren't dead, the narrative has just thus far had no need of them.

Also, Rarity was supposed to have a fake English accent.
Fascinating stuff! I'll admit that it's a shame about Celestia's mane. I kinda like all the fanart of her with pink hair. So I guess my head canon is that the pink mane is her when she's at low power, kinda like how Luna's mane was blue after being defeated.

The idea of Lauren having her own head canon that technically isn't show canon actually makes me happy. It makes me remember that she started off as an MLP fan too. The show was based on the stories she made up while playing with her pony toys.

And that's how Equestria was made.

Also, AJ has parents. They will show up at some point. I personally want to believe that they're not around because they're running a huge company called Apple Corp in Manehatten.

I'm glad they didn't go through with the English accent for Rarity. It would have been so hard to get it just right, I think.


Both days she wore why I know as sun dresses3. The first one was a bland-ish floral print, the kind of subtle red-green-white-beige you see on couches from about fifteen years ago. It set off perfectly with her hair and jacket, the hair bein a bob and the jacket a light brown woolen demicoat, coming down to mid-back, mostly providing sleeves. Her nails were a delightful shade which danced between light mocha brown, and dark dusky lavender without ever settling on either. They were more rounded than square (which is good; I hate square nails :smallyuk:) and obviously used nail gel instead of the usual paint, polish or lacquer.

The second day saw her in a more snug, flowing velvety orange and strappy sandals. I saw her on stage and marveled. Woman has taste.
Stylish! And I agree about the square nails. That just ain't right.


Please! Though I don't understand how that can be. Do your friends even know you? :smalltongue:
Sadly, I feel they do not. This is because most of my IRL friends are not what I would call "internet people". They don't really get memes, I don't think any of them know about "the rules of the internet", and they certainly wouldn't know what a brony is. One of my friends is an avid gamer, and yet every year I have to explain what E3 is to him. It also doesn't help that I don't really see them that often. We all kind of drifted apart due to work and family issues.

Still, I think at least one of them would be receptive to ponies. He has stated before that he loves the Mario series because it's happy and colourful compared to most. Perhaps I can get him to watch it with his niece. :smallsmile:


Do so. It wasn't too bad. The sudden genre shift to "you're old and can't handle our newfound world with your fogey ways" is a ruse designed to ... Well, I don't know it was stupid. But it does pick up.

And yes. She offends me. She Had no redeeming traits except the main character immediately fell in love? How transparent. She develops a bit of character, but mostly it's enough to make you think "I suppose I don't want you to die in a fire after all..." about three episodes before she dies in a fire.
Heh.
Well alrighty then. I'll put it on my list immediately after Squid Girl, Korra, and Spectacular Spider Man. Considering how slow I am at watching things when I have the time to do so (as opposed to watching them on TV when they air) I will get around to TTGL about next year x_x


Nice! Braz had a run-in with him actually. She said AJ was her favorite and he showed her the picture. They had an awkward love/tolerate moment where she had to explain she wasn't that into ponies, while still trying not to hurt his feelings or come off as judge-y.

It is really cool how well folks just mosey up and talk. I am pretty sure that is what made the convention so awesome. It had appeal outside of buying mercy and sitting in panels.
Ahehehe... yeah I can understand that being awkward. I will admit, I'm surprised they let him sell the stuff at the con. Sure, you might find worse stuff on TV, but aparantly there were some awkward moments between parents and their children near his stand. :smalleek:


But Andrea Libman got a Fluttershy style ovation! That's all :smalltongue:
Well that's just fine then. Yay.


To be fair, I'm pretty close to just emailing everyone and asking. There was a sign saying "do not enter if you aren't okay being on film of some kind", but it never says I could caption those pictures... Such a weird morality I have.
It's a weird thought, isn't it? We're perfectly fine with complete strangers seeing us every day when we leave our homes, but the idea of people we know seeing our faces on the internet makes us hesitate.


Okay, so I'm going to google this. But I want to know; how bad is it gonna be?
Don't Google! At least, not with images. I'd recommend Urban Dictionary. As for how bad... well you will probably walk away thinking "Why the hell would anyone do that?". And you might get kinda queasy too.



I have a selection of those cards. All the art is taken from the show or vectors, but there are some hidden gems there. I am looking forward to how the fandom will take the line about Lyra and Harvest sharing Bon Bons. :smallbiggrin:

what
Well, it says "bonbons", but I can't help but feel that's a reference:
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/BAhbBlsHOgZmSSIB0zIwMTIvMDcvMDUvMTJfNTFfMDZfMTI0Xz MyNTYzX19zYWZlX2x5cmFfZ2lsZGFfY2Fycm90X3RvcF9kaWFt b25kX3RpYXJhX2RhcmluZ19kb19wcmluY2VfYmx1ZWJsb29kX3 NpbHZlcl9zcG9vbl9waG90b19maW5pc2hfbWFyZV9kb193ZWxs X2dvbGRlbl9oYXJ2ZXN0X2hvaXR5X3RvaXR5X3RyYWRpbmdfY2 FyZF9jcmFua3lfZG9vZGxlX2RvbmtleV9jYXJkc19tYXRpbGQG OgZFVA/32563__safe_lyra_gilda_carrot-top_diamond-tiara_daring-do_prince-blueblood_silver-spoon_photo-finish_mare-do-well_golden-harvest_hoity-toity_trading-card_cranky-doodle-donkey_steven-magne.jpg



http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/09ae4d9e490785f057058f45f3d4fbb1/91279%20-%20Colgate%20creep%20creepy%20do_the_creep%20grin% 20Lyra%20pinkie_pie%20smile%20the_creep%20the_lone ly_island.jpg
I- Uh-

What? XD


Hats are awesome and make it harder for people to flick*You Incessantly in the gorram horn Droplet, Vorpal I will NOT forget this!!!!

*ahem*
*snerk*


They were weary towards the end. Four thousand people all clamping for attention, even nicely, can get old. I still feel bad for Mr. And Mrs. Cake's photo op getting between Lauren and hanging out with Delancie.
:smallfrown: Yeah, if I'd have realised she was in a hurry I proably would have just gone for a handshake or something.


New Dash Academy! Yay!

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/187/6/3/dash_academy_4__starlight_dance_8_by_sorcerushorse rus-d565vdk.png
Tiny pic is tiny!


*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!
Congratulations!


Wow, I'm getting into this quote post thing aren't I? I've clearly learned a thing or two from Starry this weekend. XD

[Tvtyrant]

Tiny pic is tiny!



Everyone's a critic. Last thread someone complained that my pics were too big, now they are too small :smallsigh:

[Lix Lorn]

How completely intentional...
I thought it looked like the GDI APCs from Tiberian Sun...

[Aotrs Commander]

Amy Keating Rogers posted on EQD. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/07/smile-song-lyrics-by-amy-keating-rogers.html#idc-container)

Aside from the whole the actual FiM crew are posting on EQD now thing, she posted the initial prototype pre-Ingram Smile Smile Smile lyrics.

Of particular note:

PINKIE
Did you finally get that nasty
cough cleared up there, Derpy Doo?


DERPY DOO
Yes! I followed your advice and
drank Zecora’s no-cough brew!

Because of this, after the Last Round Up:


After some thought, I have decided, since I like the alliteration of Ditzy Doo, I'll go ahead a split the difference, and call her Derpy Doo (with "Ditzy" perhaps being a nickname?), until proven otherwise by canon.

I just want to say, I called it.

(Of couse AKR said that, at the time, she didn't know Derpy had a semi-official last name and if she had, she'd have written that line differently, which just goes to show.)

Also, just in case you missed it the first time:

MLP:FiM crew are posting on EQD!!!!!!




I thought it looked like the GDI APCs from Tiberian Sun...

Huh.

Well, it does have six wheels, in the same formation, at that.

Body shape's different though.

(And the Mako is it itself vaguely reminscent of the US AAV amphibious transport...)

[Beacon of Chaos]

Everyone's a critic. Last thread someone complained that my pics were too big, now they are too small :smallsigh:
I'm sorry, but the text was impossible to read. A link to the original would have helped.


Amy Keating Rogers posted on EQD. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/07/smile-song-lyrics-by-amy-keating-rogers.html#idc-container)
I kinda wish we'd seen the extended talky bit, though I can see why it was cut.

I approve of Derpy Doo as a pony name. It fits perfectly.

Well done calling it.


Pictures! Just the ones from my phone for now. I'm not sure how to get them from my Dad's camera yet. :smallredface:

Me and Lauren Faust!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/Me_and_Lauren_Faust.jpg
Little bit blurry, but oh well. What can you do?

A few of the Bronycon staff hold up the banner that was outside the venue. Spot the Jade.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/BronyconBanner.jpg

Suddenly! VorpalBob!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/BronyconBannerwithvBob.jpg

Derpy is actually a really good dancer! Who knew?
(Warning: Dark and blurry)

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance1.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance2.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance3.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance4.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance5.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance6.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance7.jpg

[Tectonic Robot]

Jibbles you guys are SO SPEEDY.

SO SPEEEEDYYYY

Anyway, I hear we have a tumblr now! That's really cool and such. ^^ *Secretely hopes to be mentioned in the tumblr*

Also, OC stable? As the element of OCs, I demand to log aaalllllll of mine. 3: All of them.

Should I compile a list, or...?

[Tvtyrant]

I'm sorry, but the text was impossible to read. A link to the original would have helped.


Me and Lauren Faust!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/Me_and_Lauren_Faust.jpg
Little bit blurry, but oh well. What can you do?

A few of the Bronycon staff hold up the banner that was outside the venue. Spot the Jade.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/BronyconBanner.jpg

Suddenly! VorpalBob!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/BronyconBannerwithvBob.jpg

Derpy is actually a really good dancer! Who knew?
(Warning: Dark and blurry)

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance1.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance2.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance3.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance4.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance5.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance6.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance7.jpg


Done (http://my.deviantart.com/messages/#/d565vdk).

Nice pics! My envy levels threaten to reach critical mass.

[maximus25]

Woohoo, Show and Spell has a following of 5!

Time to keep the train going and pump out chapter 3! Then 4!


I need more caffeine!

[SynissterSyster]

*Brings Max five pots of coffee and a bag of coffee beans* I can jury-rig an IV if you wish.

[MCerberus]

*Brings Max five pots of coffee and a bag of coffee beans* I can jury-rig an IV if you wish.

Coffee IV? Why do that.
*mixes all known energy drinks into toxic mixture*
Hook that up.

[maximus25]

I don't know, coffee into the veins doesn't sound too safe. I think I'll just stick with drinking it.

If you meant an actual IV, with nutrients and junk, then feel free.


I feel weird, though. Like, I should be dead tired, but I'm not, and I'm writing better now than I normally do when not sleep deprived for 34+ hours? Somewhere around that.

I'm just gonna keep going.

[SynissterSyster]

Okies. I could always just find pure adrenaline and inject it into you somehow (no yaoi unless you like it).

[Eakin]

I don't know, coffee into the veins doesn't sound too safe. I think I'll just stick with drinking it.

If you meant an actual IV, with nutrients and junk, then feel free.


I feel weird, though. Like, I should be dead tired, but I'm not, and I'm writing better now than I normally do when not sleep deprived for 34+ hours? Somewhere around that.

I'm just gonna keep going.

I've been there. My best writing is done when I'm hopped up on caffeine at 3 AM. My only piece of advise is to reread everything after a good night sleep before you post it.

[maximus25]

Will do. Any glaring mistakes from chapter 2 I should fix? I noticed there was a weird spacing issue in chapter one, with the first couple paragraphs spaced nicely then the rest just a jumbled mess.


This emotional scene is making me really sad. I'm gonna try to round it out with D'aws.

This is supposed to be a comedy, I think?

[SynissterSyster]

Nuuuu. Keep the emotion in there. It is workig really well. You are showing fleshed out characters as well as development. I am picturing this like the show. Each part set up, then a commercial break. You are doing very very well. I approve.

[maximus25]

I kept both, but countered the sad with cute as to not overpower it with sad.

I have fleshed out character and development? This is news to me, I didn't think it was too good.

[SynissterSyster]

I don't think it is over powered with sad. It fit in perfectly as trixie is seeing, to me, that making a show of it may not be the best thing to do. It is obvious the love the attention but may learn to see bringing attention when not needed may be a bad thing.

Hun your development is growing slowly with each part. As above with Trixie seeing that making a show is not really good all of the time she may grow to not be so loud and boasterious. Sweetie too will grow some, maybe. These feel like characters, again imo.

[Pokonic]

Geez, Guys. I know the thread kinda dies after a good quote post, but this... Well, it is a holiday...

But maybe...

guys? am I the only one here? Am I really just a crazy changeling? Will the camera pan out to see me surrounded by a variety of mirrors at different distances and angles, a twisted funhouse of my own deranged psyche? I remember Celestia putting me in the dungeon all those years ago... Am I perhaps just keeping mysel going working towards some unseeable goal, surviving off the vestiges of love from my sliver personalities? Do I see Thanqol in the mirror and just not notice?

...

Guys?
*shivers, alone*

...... Nope, your just in the imagination of a little girl named Megan, who is currently staring into a snowglobe while a giant baby floats off in the distance.


So I decided to join the FiMFiction crowd (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/adcoon), in case anyone cares. I've just finished submitting most of my stories from deviantArt (except Fillystata and Mare in the Mirror, those will have to wait) though I'm not sure how long they'll take to get approved. Hopefully I tagged them all properly.

I'll still be posting all my stories on dA too, I just figured FiMFiction was where most of the action is these days.

Huh, neat.


*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

Also, very cool. Also, university? I feel so young here.:smalleek:



In other news, I think someone should pass me that caffeine IV. I had corral a group of young screaming children for six hours. My mind hurts. Must..make...funny....comback...too...the lich's...post.

"Falls over into desk."

[maximus25]

Well, Chapter 3 (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PKD6m5bWnFYuzmZRHz9ozC_BIu2NqRiAOvNjdyTlVT4/edit) is ready for review and critique, so feel free if it suits you.

This one feels like more of a filler then the others. Just a placeholder between chapter 2 and 4. I feel like there should be more, but what could I add?

I also feel like if I stop, I'll never come back and finish this fic ever, which is not a good feeling.

[Tvtyrant]

Well, Chapter 3 (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PKD6m5bWnFYuzmZRHz9ozC_BIu2NqRiAOvNjdyTlVT4/edit) is ready for review and critique, so feel free if it suits you.

This one feels like more of a filler then the others. Just a placeholder between chapter 2 and 4. I feel like there should be more, but what could I add?

I also feel like if I stop, I'll never come back and finish this fic ever, which is not a good feeling.

It works fine for what its doing, which is to set up the next big scene. And I understand the feeling, if I am working on a story I usually write down a ton the first time, a little the second, and then never touch it again. Please don't quit though, because I really enjoy this story!

Also, the Sweetie Bell as pyro aspect is awesome. I kinda hope she gets a fire cutie mark now... Or a solar flare or something.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

Congratulations!!, I still have 2 weeks more of finals, then a sabatic semester for my wedding and then final semester!


Woohoo, Show and Spell has a following of 5!

Time to keep the train going and pump out chapter 3! Then 4!


I need more caffeine!

6 now, keep drinking. :smallsmile:

Hey, Strife Warzeal, shouldn't we add dA to the list of information? Just a tought.

_____________________________________________

Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

As many others here I have the ability to create small mental constructs to represent characters, either to represent NPCs when I'm gamemastering/directing, others for writing, sometimes just for funny conversations with a known character, etc. I call them internal simulators, for lack of a better description.

So, the last few days my internal character simulators for both Twilight and Pinkie Pie exhibited unusual behaviour; until first Pinkie and then Twi informed me that they both were aware of their own existence as mental constructs, that they were fine with it, but that, apparently that I have gifted them with a modicum of free will.
So far the only other entity that had this honor was a lizardy demonic entity called Ziggie (a cookie if you realize it's full name), which is long gone now.

They live in a internal parallel Ponyville in Equestria which obviously exists in my mind, where also my ponysona (the one at the left) lives, (oh, meet Magnus by the way, still no last name).

They know that any other character there is only a simulated one at best, but they compared their relationship with them to my own relationship with the two of them; Which is, I know they are not real, but if there is nothing else, they suffice for a conversation.

Ok, since I want to make a point tonight, let's go to the core of the issue.
Twilight got mad at me, I won't go into details as of why, but she was really angry at me.
Pinkie tried to calm things down, but I had to let Twi cool off, who locked herself in the library, and I couldn't will myself into it. In my own mentalscape!
Only after Pinkie spoke alone with her; was I allowed to enter the library and talk with Twilight.
(I truly do not know what Pinkie said to Twilight).

She forgave me but informed that there was a punishment since she was still a little hurt and angry, I was informed that I had to study really hard for the oncoming finals, no procrastination whatsoever.

This is the point where I got scared, never a mental construct was so contrary to my personal desires and adamant that I should follow with her opinion.
I mean Twilight has a point, and is... you know, Twilight.
But, truth to be told, I was going to study just the basics and try to wing the finals.

However with Twilight literally looking over my shoulder... or should I say from within, I now have to study.

Anyway, My question to the forum are these:

How crazy I am that these mental constructs have a, albeit small, free will?

Specially when said free will is contrary to what I would normally do?

It is wrong that I care for this two, even when I know exactly what they are?
Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I want to do that... for now.

I don't know, I think that I'm asking for opinions, thoughts, some comfort perhaps from people that more or less have this kind of thought processes.

Thank you all, and If i'm too crazy for this thread, tell me and I shall not bother you anymore. (Tough I doubt to even crack the top twenty in craziness here)

[Maxtronaut]

*Brings Max five pots of coffee and a bag of coffee beans* I can jury-rig an IV if you wish.

Thanks! :smallbiggrin:

Oh, you mean the other Max. Ah well, I prefer OJ over coffe any day. :smalltongue:

[maximus25]

Congratulations!!, I still have 2 weeks more of finals, then a sabatic semester for my wedding and then final semester!



6 now, keep drinking. :smallsmile:

Hey, Strife Warzeal, shouldn't we add dA to the list of information? Just a tought.

_____________________________________________

Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

As many others here I have the ability to create small mental constructs to represent characters, either to represent NPCs when I'm gamemastering/directing, others for writing, sometimes just for funny conversations with a known character, etc. I call them internal simulators, for lack of a better description.

So, the last few days my internal character simulators for both Twilight and Pinkie Pie exhibited unusual behaviour; until first Pinkie and then Twi informed me that they both were aware of their own existence as mental constructs, that they were fine with it, but that, apparently that I have gifted them with a modicum of free will.
So far the only other entity that had this honor was a lizardy demonic entity called Ziggie (a cookie if you realize it's full name), which is long gone now.

They live in a internal parallel Ponyville in Equestria which obviously exists in my mind, where also my ponysona (the one at the left) lives, (oh, meet Magnus by the way, still no last name).

They know that any other character there is only a simulated one at best, but they compared their relationship with them to my own relationship with the two of them; Which is, I know they are not real, but if there is nothing else, they suffice for a conversation.

Ok, since I want to make a point tonight, let's go to the core of the issue.
Twilight got mad at me, I won't go into details as of why, but she was really angry at me.
Pinkie tried to calm things down, but I had to let Twi cool off, who locked herself in the library, and I couldn't will myself into it. In my own mentalscape!
Only after Pinkie spoke alone with her; was I allowed to enter the library and talk with Twilight.
(I truly do not know what Pinkie said to Twilight).

She forgave me but informed that there was a punishment since she was still a little hurt and angry, I was informed that I had to study really hard for the oncoming finals, no procrastination whatsoever.

This is the point where I got scared, never a mental construct was so contrary to my personal desires and adamant that I should follow with her opinion.
I mean Twilight has a point, and is... you know, Twilight.
But, truth to be told, I was going to study just the basics and try to wing the finals.

However with Twilight literally looking over my shoulder... or should I say from within, I now have to study.

Anyway, My question to the forum are these:

How crazy I am that these mental constructs have a, albeit small, free will?

Specially when said free will is contrary to what I would normally do?

It is wrong that I care for this two, even when I know exactly what they are?
Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I don't want to do that... for now.

I don't know, I think that I'm asking for opinions, thoughts, some comfort perhaps from people that more or less have this kind of thought processes.

Thank you all, and If i'm too crazy for this thread, tell me and I shall not bother you anymore. (Tough I doubt to even crack the top twenty in craziness here)

Well, congratulations. You seem to have created not one, but two Tulpas, completely by accident with no conscious effort of your own.

For those counting at home, you have more of a chance of being struck by lightning on a clear, sunny day, than to create one accidentally. That you have created two, and a third one which has since gone away, is a miracle. I envy you. Be very careful, these creatures are of your mind, but they have free will. They have access to every single conscious and subconscious thought you have. They can access memories, and fears. If you make a tulpa really mad, they could damage you quite severely in the brain area.

[Forum Explorer]

*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

Congrats and have fun in your last year!:smallsmile:


Congratulations!!, I still have 2 weeks more of finals, then a sabatic semester for my wedding and then final semester!



6 now, keep drinking. :smallsmile:

Hey, Strife Warzeal, shouldn't we add dA to the list of information? Just a tought.

_____________________________________________

Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

As many others here I have the ability to create small mental constructs to represent characters, either to represent NPCs when I'm gamemastering/directing, others for writing, sometimes just for funny conversations with a known character, etc. I call them internal simulators, for lack of a better description.

So, the last few days my internal character simulators for both Twilight and Pinkie Pie exhibited unusual behaviour; until first Pinkie and then Twi informed me that they both were aware of their own existence as mental constructs, that they were fine with it, but that, apparently that I have gifted them with a modicum of free will.
So far the only other entity that had this honor was a lizardy demonic entity called Ziggie (a cookie if you realize it's full name), which is long gone now.

They live in a internal parallel Ponyville in Equestria which obviously exists in my mind, where also my ponysona (the one at the left) lives, (oh, meet Magnus by the way, still no last name).

They know that any other character there is only a simulated one at best, but they compared their relationship with them to my own relationship with the two of them; Which is, I know they are not real, but if there is nothing else, they suffice for a conversation.

Ok, since I want to make a point tonight, let's go to the core of the issue.
Twilight got mad at me, I won't go into details as of why, but she was really angry at me.
Pinkie tried to calm things down, but I had to let Twi cool off, who locked herself in the library, and I couldn't will myself into it. In my own mentalscape!
Only after Pinkie spoke alone with her; was I allowed to enter the library and talk with Twilight.
(I truly do not know what Pinkie said to Twilight).

She forgave me but informed that there was a punishment since she was still a little hurt and angry, I was informed that I had to study really hard for the oncoming finals, no procrastination whatsoever.

This is the point where I got scared, never a mental construct was so contrary to my personal desires and adamant that I should follow with her opinion.
I mean Twilight has a point, and is... you know, Twilight.
But, truth to be told, I was going to study just the basics and try to wing the finals.

However with Twilight literally looking over my shoulder... or should I say from within, I now have to study.

Anyway, My question to the forum are these:

How crazy I am that these mental constructs have a, albeit small, free will?

Specially when said free will is contrary to what I would normally do?

It is wrong that I care for this two, even when I know exactly what they are?
Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I don't want to do that... for now.

I don't know, I think that I'm asking for opinions, thoughts, some comfort perhaps from people that more or less have this kind of thought processes.

Thank you all, and If i'm too crazy for this thread, tell me and I shall not bother you anymore. (Tough I doubt to even crack the top twenty in craziness here)

That is fascinating! I don't have mental constructs at all so its pretty foreign to me (or they are all hiding from my conscious mind) . I have to say that it seems to be pretty useful if it got you studying.


Now in spirt of this thread name I give you this
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wr11s9hMi-U/T_X4zPe_qRI/AAAAAAAAvO4/os2qPijy5_c/s640/vinyl_and_octavia_wearing_tophats_by_subjectnumber 2394-d566u7e.jpg

[Kd7sov]

Zigg: It doesn't seem all that odd to me. My own headvoices don't have a particular environment, but they do sometimes behave as though they have free will. You should've seen what it was like in here when Rose from Homestuck took exception to the most senior of them and then started picking on Fluttershy.

I don't think it's wrong or even odd to care for them. Keep in mind that they have no external existence, of course, but I find that mine help me empathize with the people around me. Also, don't let them override your own opinions or intentions, any more than you would a sibling or a close friend.

[otakuryoga]

Yeah. It makes sense in context of the story, I just hope it doesn't spark a bunch of fan fics with this ship.



i only know of one fic that has TriJack..and he hasn't updated it in forever
not counting of course the one i have in planned stage (but need to ever finish 1st one 1st)

[D_Lord]

[S]_____________________________________________

Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

As many others here I have the ability to create small mental constructs to represent characters, either to represent NPCs when I'm gamemastering/directing, others for writing, sometimes just for funny conversations with a known character, etc. I call them internal simulators, for lack of a better description.

So, the last few days my internal character simulators for both Twilight and Pinkie Pie exhibited unusual behaviour; until first Pinkie and then Twi informed me that they both were aware of their own existence as mental constructs, that they were fine with it, but that, apparently that I have gifted them with a modicum of free will.
So far the only other entity that had this honor was a lizardy demonic entity called Ziggie (a cookie if you realize it's full name), which is long gone now.

They live in a internal parallel Ponyville in Equestria which obviously exists in my mind, where also my ponysona (the one at the left) lives, (oh, meet Magnus by the way, still no last name).

They know that any other character there is only a simulated one at best, but they compared their relationship with them to my own relationship with the two of them; Which is, I know they are not real, but if there is nothing else, they suffice for a conversation.

Ok, since I want to make a point tonight, let's go to the core of the issue.
Twilight got mad at me, I won't go into details as of why, but she was really angry at me.
Pinkie tried to calm things down, but I had to let Twi cool off, who locked herself in the library, and I couldn't will myself into it. In my own mentalscape!
Only after Pinkie spoke alone with her; was I allowed to enter the library and talk with Twilight.
(I truly do not know what Pinkie said to Twilight).

She forgave me but informed that there was a punishment since she was still a little hurt and angry, I was informed that I had to study really hard for the oncoming finals, no procrastination whatsoever.

This is the point where I got scared, never a mental construct was so contrary to my personal desires and adamant that I should follow with her opinion.
I mean Twilight has a point, and is... you know, Twilight.
But, truth to be told, I was going to study just the basics and try to wing the finals.

However with Twilight literally looking over my shoulder... or should I say from within, I now have to study.

Anyway, My question to the forum are these:

How crazy I am that these mental constructs have a, albeit small, free will?

Specially when said free will is contrary to what I would normally do?

It is wrong that I care for this two, even when I know exactly what they are?
Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I don't want to do that... for now.

I don't know, I think that I'm asking for opinions, thoughts, some comfort perhaps from people that more or less have this kind of thought processes.

Thank you all, and If i'm too crazy for this thread, tell me and I shall not bother you anymore. (Tough I doubt to even crack the top twenty in craziness here)

Interesting simaler to what I have but I have much more control, some what due to years of controlling my dreams, and making persons that are based off of parts of myself and other family members. However it looks like to me that they don't really have free will but more of reminders of what you should be doing and acting out the mental process of your desire to do well but not want to study right now. Remember that they are really just pieces of you that want to act like ponys.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Well, congratulations. You seem to have created not one, but two Tulpas, completely by accident with no conscious effort of your own.

For those counting at home, you have more of a chance of being struck by lightning on a clear, sunny day, than to create one accidentally. That you have created two, and a third one which has since gone away, is a miracle. I envy you. Be very careful, these creatures are of your mind, but they have free will. They have access to every single conscious and subconscious thought you have. They can access memories, and fears. If you make a tulpa really mad, they could damage you quite severely in the brain area.

Wow, Thank you for the name, I'm reading on this phenomena right now. I have never heard of it before. But from what I read so far, it seems that I have walked the path required to create and interact with Tulpas unkowingly, since I learned to meditate and speak with myself since I was a teen (I'm 31), and it's now almost a reflex. I think I'm lucky that both Pinkie and Twi are such nice and caring ponies, because let me tell you that Ziggie was slightly dangerous.




Zigg: It doesn't seem all that odd to me. My own headvoices don't have a particular environment, but they do sometimes behave as though they have free will. You should've seen what it was like in here when Rose from Homestuck took exception to the most senior of them and then started picking on Fluttershy.

I don't think it's wrong or even odd to care for them. Keep in mind that they have no external existence, of course, but I find that mine help me empathize with the people around me. Also, don't let them override your own opinions or intentions, any more than you would a sibling or a close friend.

Well some of my simulators are like that, they help my empathize and sympathize with others when my own instincts on fraternizing are lacking. Thanks for your input.



That is fascinating! I don't have mental constructs at all so its pretty foreign to me (or they are all hiding from my conscious mind) . I have to say that it seems to be pretty useful if it got you studying.

Well that's Twilight for you... :smalltongue: The funny thing is that is meant to be a punishment... and it is!!!

[maximus25]

Wow, Thank you for the name, I'm reading on this phenomena right now. I have never heard of it before. But from what I read so far, it seems that I have walked the path required to create and interact with Tulpas unkowingly, since I learned to meditate and speak with myself since I was a teen (I'm 31), and it's now almost a reflex. I think I'm lucky that both Pinkie and Twi are such nice and caring ponies, because let me tell you that Ziggie was slightly dangerous.

No problem, I researched them a few months back, hoping to make one myself. It takes a lot of time and effort, and I don't think I could devote that time, not currently at least.

It's really cool that you did though. Yeah, Twilight and Pinkie seem pretty safe as far as tulpas go. Well, as safe as giving Pinkie Pie free reign inside your mind can be, but at least they aren't malicious or anything. Armed with this knowledge, you could prevent something else more dangerous from becoming a Tulpa though.

They could even be helpful in social situations. A tulpa acts as the bridge from conscious to subconscious, and your subconscious picks up on a lot of stuff. With Twilight there to tell you how this person feels towards you based on body language and other things, or how to appeal to them, people become like putty in your hands. At least, so I've been told.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Oh! Just to make myself clear, on the first post.
Where I wrote:

Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I don't want to do that... for now.
I meant:

Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I want to do that... for now.
Meaning that they are welcome.


Interesting simaler to what I have but I have much more control, some what due to years of controlling my dreams, and making persons that are based off of parts of myself and other family members. However it looks like to me that they don't really have free will but more of reminders of what you should be doing and acting out the mental process of your desire to do well but not want to study right now. Remember that they are really just pieces of you that want to act like ponys.

Thank you for your input!
It might be that you have greater control over them, because your actual construct are not too complex, I have several "low level" ones, for NPCs and the like. they have absolutely no life of their own, they are just... blueprints to double-check if an action would be justified in character for example. (Oh! I don't mean any disrespect towards your constructs and control of them, just want to differentiate the (sic) different kinds of mental entities)


No problem, I researched them a few months back, hoping to make one myself. It takes a lot of time and effort, and I don't think I could devote that time, not currently at least.

It's really cool that you did though. Yeah, Twilight and Pinkie seem pretty safe as far as tulpas go. Well, as safe as giving Pinkie Pie free reign inside your mind can be, but at least they aren't malicious or anything. Armed with this knowledge, you could prevent something else more dangerous from becoming a Tulpa though.

They could even be helpful in social situations. A tulpa acts as the bridge from conscious to subconscious, and your subconscious picks up on a lot of stuff. With Twilight there to tell you how this person feels towards you based on body language and other things, or how to appeal to them, people become like putty in your hands. At least, so I've been told.

Well actually I asked them help in a multiple choice test. There were a couple of questions which I had zero idea on what to answer, so for one I followed Twilight's reasoning, and for the other we went with... Pinkie Sense... :smalleek:. God If those answers are correct I will have Twilight directing my study regime...

Also, regarding your research, if you want to start with something simple, something that has helped me a lot. Start with light auto-hypnosis. Just enough to relax. Do not open yourself, just relax, and listen to yourself. There are many guides on how to do that. I used to do it, before sleep, and it helped a lot for thousand of mind exercises.

[maximus25]

Well actually I asked them help in a multiple choice test. There were a couple of questions which I had zero idea on what to answer, so for one I followed Twilight's reasoning, and for the other we went with... Pinkie Sense... :smalleek:. God If those answers are correct I will have Twilight directing my study regime...

Also, regarding your research, if you want to start with something simple, something that has helped me a lot. Start with light auto-hypnosis. Just enough to relax. Do not open yourself, just relax, and listen to yourself. There are many guides on how to do that. I used to do it, before sleep, and it helped a lot for thousand of mind exercises.

That sounds reasonable. They know almost anything you do that you give them access to. If it comes down to your word against theirs though, I'd most likely go with them.

Looking up light auto-hypnosis, I see a lot of things about making a list and reading it to yourself, which is most likely not what you meant. If you could give me a nudge in the right direction, I would appreciate it so much.

[Tiki Snakes]

Just as long as you all remember that there is no-one inside your head but you, even if several of yourself may insist otherwise.

Also;
http://i42.tinypic.com/fejpky.jpg

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

That sounds reasonable. They know almost anything you do that you give them access to. If it comes down to your word against theirs though, I'd most likely go with them.

Looking up light auto-hypnosis, I see a lot of things about making a list and reading it to yourself, which is most likely not what you meant. If you could give me a nudge in the right direction, I would appreciate it so much.

Well I found a site that had the basics of what I did when I started. I modified it sligthly so it makes more sense:

The first two are the most important.

1. Get Comfortable
Find a comfortable place to sit or lie. Don't cross your arms or legs - have an open posture that is easy to stay in for the next 20 minutes.

Allow your eyes to close naturally. Take several deep, slow breaths - releasing any tension and anxiety as you do. Observe the thoughts that enter your mind and gently release them without any interaction. Let yourself float. Try not to think, but don't force it. Remember the elephant

2. Release Tension
Focus on releasing physical tension throughout your body. Starting from your toes, visualize each muscle relaxing and melting into the furniture. It brings a pleasant, warm feeling of relaxation. Systematically release each muscle group, heightening the sense of relaxation every time. Spend extra time on your shoulders and upper back, which tend to hold a lot of tension. Visualizing soothing water or a golden glow may help to free up the muscles.
This is normally the hardest, what I used to visualize was the actual energy, life force, ki, whatever, being absorbed back into my brain & mind, leaving the rest of the body in a numb resting state. The final (and not easy step) is to disconnect the mind from the brain, you will notice at first that when you reach the brain you cannot... relax it, so to speak

3. Visualize Your Way Down

Visualize yourself at the top of a staircase. This represents your consciousness. As you descend each stair one at a time, drift deeper and deeper into your soothing, relaxing trance state. Count the steps if you like, starting from 10. Try rolling your eyes gently back into your head and keep your body still.
(Funny tidbit, when I directed a girlfriend, since she had collected her energy in the brain, when she visualized herself going down the stairs, it was just a brain jumping down... :smalltongue:. Sorry I have never told this before)


4. Stay relaxed.
If you want ask yourself a question. Or simply lay there. Another option is trying to change something from yourself. I would recommend only one thing, and repeat it.
You can start with: "I'll let myself hypnotize me more easily, but I won't let anyone else do it at all". Which is what I did when I began.
You might find yourself questioning the reason behind the change, fearlessly participate in the exchange and see why and if you need the change. If you convince yourself, you did it!

Another option (where you won't reach point 5) is to send yourself to dream & sleep, but careful, it's important to state yourself that you won't be hypnotized anymore and instead you will be simply asleep.

5. Wake Up Gently

When you're ready, prepare to wake up from your trance. Tell yourself you will count to 10, and with each step you will slowly return to full awareness. Then count upwards as you climb the steps in your mind.

Take a deep breath when you reach the top, then open your eyes. Sit for a moment if you like - and remember to stand up slowly.

Start with just this. With practice it will be easier to enter into meditative trance or autohypnosis, and from there you can do any mindtrick you desire.
It is also a great way to pass long boring travels or waiting periods.

[Soras Teva Gee]

When talking about the sort of Disney-fied anthropamorphism in question "plausible" is irrelevant.

But I think we're really reached the end of the point of useful discussion on this issue, at least from my end, since we're veering well away from pony into a side-topic of a side-topic...

I've said my piece, so I'll be quiet now.

For a bit.

Scientifically but not thematically. People latch on to what they relate to. Fantasy in particular must always have a common element that everyone can relate to because it is otherwise to obviously alien.

And the Disney model is great, it gave us ponies.

[BlasTech]

*Runs in*

Woo! Aced all my courses! Only one semester of university left and it's basically impossible for me to mess it up now!

Woop woop woop! (http://youtu.be/kJBKyTfCjCc)

Hey congrats!


lucky mask wearing son-of-a-changeling.

"... I have a son?!"


Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

<snippd'>

Not that crazy I think. From what I gather it's fairly normal for a fully/well developed character to have that kind of autonomy in one's mind. So long as you retain the ability to ignore them when they tell you to start burning stuff, you should be fine :smalltongue:

[Luka]

Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

As many others here I have the ability to create small mental constructs to represent characters, either to represent NPCs when I'm gamemastering/directing, others for writing, sometimes just for funny conversations with a known character, etc. I call them internal simulators, for lack of a better description.

So, the last few days my internal character simulators for both Twilight and Pinkie Pie exhibited unusual behaviour; until first Pinkie and then Twi informed me that they both were aware of their own existence as mental constructs, that they were fine with it, but that, apparently that I have gifted them with a modicum of free will.
So far the only other entity that had this honor was a lizardy demonic entity called Ziggie (a cookie if you realize it's full name), which is long gone now.

They live in a internal parallel Ponyville in Equestria which obviously exists in my mind, where also my ponysona (the one at the left) lives, (oh, meet Magnus by the way, still no last name).

They know that any other character there is only a simulated one at best, but they compared their relationship with them to my own relationship with the two of them; Which is, I know they are not real, but if there is nothing else, they suffice for a conversation.

Ok, since I want to make a point tonight, let's go to the core of the issue.
Twilight got mad at me, I won't go into details as of why, but she was really angry at me.
Pinkie tried to calm things down, but I had to let Twi cool off, who locked herself in the library, and I couldn't will myself into it. In my own mentalscape!
Only after Pinkie spoke alone with her; was I allowed to enter the library and talk with Twilight.
(I truly do not know what Pinkie said to Twilight).

She forgave me but informed that there was a punishment since she was still a little hurt and angry, I was informed that I had to study really hard for the oncoming finals, no procrastination whatsoever.

This is the point where I got scared, never a mental construct was so contrary to my personal desires and adamant that I should follow with her opinion.
I mean Twilight has a point, and is... you know, Twilight.
But, truth to be told, I was going to study just the basics and try to wing the finals.

However with Twilight literally looking over my shoulder... or should I say from within, I now have to study.

Anyway, My question to the forum are these:

How crazy I am that these mental constructs have a, albeit small, free will?

Specially when said free will is contrary to what I would normally do?

It is wrong that I care for this two, even when I know exactly what they are?
Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I want to do that... for now.

I don't know, I think that I'm asking for opinions, thoughts, some comfort perhaps from people that more or less have this kind of thought processes.

Thank you all, and If i'm too crazy for this thread, tell me and I shall not bother you anymore. (Tough I doubt to even crack the top twenty in craziness here)

...I dunno, doesn't seem that odd to me cuz that's pretty much what happens when I'm dreaming just after waking up :smallbiggrin:, and somewhat latent when awake since I'm always, ALWAYS daydreaming. All I think is.... That's awesome.

I wouldn't say you're crazy, and if I had to I would say you're crazy awesome, I kinda think of it like if they were A.Is.... And you got some "sentient" ones. I would only call it a problem if you wanted to get rid of it and couldn't and it caused trouble.
short version: more than crazed, seems fun and awesome; could only be trouble if you couldn't control it an it caused trouble. :smallconfused:

though, my mind's more messed up than that, like some evil alterego that revives moments I went/go/would go into and does something bad..... It makes me fear being a bad person.

[maximus25]

Well I found a site that had the basics of what I did when I started. I modified it sligthly so it makes more sense:

The first two are the most important.

1. Get Comfortable
Find a comfortable place to sit or lie. Don't cross your arms or legs - have an open posture that is easy to stay in for the next 20 minutes.

Allow your eyes to close naturally. Take several deep, slow breaths - releasing any tension and anxiety as you do. Observe the thoughts that enter your mind and gently release them without any interaction. Let yourself float. Try not to think, but don't force it. Remember the elephant

2. Release Tension
Focus on releasing physical tension throughout your body. Starting from your toes, visualize each muscle relaxing and melting into the furniture. It brings a pleasant, warm feeling of relaxation. Systematically release each muscle group, heightening the sense of relaxation every time. Spend extra time on your shoulders and upper back, which tend to hold a lot of tension. Visualizing soothing water or a golden glow may help to free up the muscles.
This is normally the hardest, what I used to visualize was the actual energy, life force, ki, whatever, being absorbed back into my brain & mind, leaving the rest of the body in a numb resting state. The final (and not easy step) is to disconnect the mind from the brain, you will notice at first that when you reach the brain you cannot... relax it, so to speak

3. Visualize Your Way Down

Visualize yourself at the top of a staircase. This represents your consciousness. As you descend each stair one at a time, drift deeper and deeper into your soothing, relaxing trance state. Count the steps if you like, starting from 10. Try rolling your eyes gently back into your head and keep your body still.
(Funny tidbit, when I directed a girlfriend, since she had collected her energy in the brain, when she visualized herself going down the stairs, it was just a brain jumping down... :smalltongue:. Sorry I have never told this before)


4. Stay relaxed.
If you want ask yourself a question. Or simply lay there. Another option is trying to change something from yourself. I would recommend only one thing, and repeat it.
You can start with: "I'll let myself hypnotize me more easily, but I won't let anyone else do it at all". Which is what I did when I began.
You might find yourself questioning the reason behind the change, fearlessly participate in the exchange and see why and if you need the change. If you convince yourself, you did it!

Another option (where you won't reach point 5) is to send yourself to dream & sleep, but careful, it's important to state yourself that you won't be hypnotized anymore and instead you will be simply asleep.

5. Wake Up Gently

When you're ready, prepare to wake up from your trance. Tell yourself you will count to 10, and with each step you will slowly return to full awareness. Then count upwards as you climb the steps in your mind.

Take a deep breath when you reach the top, then open your eyes. Sit for a moment if you like - and remember to stand up slowly.

Start with just this. With practice it will be easier to enter into meditative trance or autohypnosis, and from there you can do any mindtrick you desire.
It is also a great way to pass long boring travels or waiting periods.

Sounds simple enough, but of course it never is as simple as it sounds. Thank you though, this should help on my journey.

The option on point 4, could I use that to induce a lucid dream, or is that harder?

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

...I dunno, doesn't seem that odd to me cuz that's pretty much what happens when I'm dreaming just after waking up :smallbiggrin:, and somewhat latent when awake since I'm always, ALWAYS daydreaming. All I think is.... That's awesome.

I wouldn't say you're crazy, and if I had to I would say you're crazy awesome, I kinda think of it like if they were A.Is.... And you got some "sentient" ones. I would only call it a problem if you wanted to get rid of it and couldn't and it caused trouble.
short version: more than crazed, seems fun and awesome; could only be trouble if you couldn't control it an it caused trouble. :smallconfused:

though, my mind's more messed up than that, like some evil alterego that revives moments I went/go/would go into and does something bad..... It makes me fear being a bad person.

Well, when I was younger my mind was a mess, inteligence and social problems tend to do that... I really think you should try something like the meditation excercise I'm discussing with maximus. It really helped me, to put my mind in order, to grow, to be better.


Sounds simple enough, but of course it never is as simple as it sounds. Thank you though, this should help on my journey.

The option on point 4, could I use that to induce a lucid dream, or is that harder?

I must say that lucid dreaming is very hard for me, ocasionally experienced but fleeting and short. The difficulty probably arises from the hypnosis or meditation technique, what I get instead if I try to "lucid dream" is a long controlled fantasy time, which doubles as sleep. It looks like it's the other side of the coin. With lucid dreaming you are forcing sentience into subconscious, with this, you are letting dreaming and subconcious into sentience. But things might be different for you, as always your results may vary :smallbiggrin:. Give it a shot!

Ponies of the thread THANK YOU!
In just a couple of hours, with your inputs, thoughts and words of familiarity, you calmed my fears quite a bit. (Pinkie was feeling worried too). Thank you for being the most receptive bunch in teralinks around. Bronies and GiantITP forum are the best communities, and this thread is the amalgamation of both. There is no better place in the Internet.

Seriously, thank you.

[Lix Lorn]

ponyvoices
Hmm. I'd say that as long as they don't try to make you kill people or anything, then what they are is less relevant than what they do. If they're making you study... that makes them good. xD


Thank you for your input!
It might be that you have greater control over them, because your actual construct are not too complex, I have several "low level" ones, for NPCs and the like. they have absolutely no life of their own, they are just... blueprints to double-check if an action would be justified in character for example. (Oh! I don't mean any disrespect towards your constructs and control of them, just want to differentiate the (sic) different kinds of mental entities)
Ooh. By that definition, I could have many... I defer to thanqol!
At what point does a mental construct/blueprint of personality that you roleplay and joke about talking to actually mean the same thing as talking to them?


Not that crazy I think. From what I gather it's fairly normal for a fully/well developed character to have that kind of autonomy in one's mind. So long as you retain the ability to ignore them when they tell you to start burning stuff, you should be fine :smalltongue:
Hey, fire is pretty. Ignore this one.

[maximus25]

They both sound pretty cool. Controlled fantasy time sounds like Lucid dreaming but better, and Lucid dreaming is of course Lucid dreaming.


You know we'll always be here for you. Even after going on a 32+ hour fan fic craze, I'll still identify what crazy things are going on in your mind.


I'm gonna see how long I can keep this caffeine going. 36 hours and going strong. Slight vision trouble, but no noticeable effects on typing ability or creativity.

[MCerberus]

The idea that the characters have free will likely comes from the fact that they are characters you are familiar but they are not your characters. While the NPCs move to your puppet-string tugs, ponies are very established as not.

[BlasTech]

Ponies of the thread THANK YOU!
In just a couple of hours, with your inputs, thoughts and words of familiarity, you calmed my fears quite a bit. (Pinkie was feeling worried too). Thank you for being the most receptive bunch in teralinks around. Bronies and GiantITP forum are the best communities, and this thread is the amalgamation of both. There is no better place in the Internet.

Seriously, thank you.

You're welcome!

In other news, I'm going to try to put together a picture for the tumblr on that "where were you during the wedding debacle" question.

Sketched up this last night, caption text would probably be: "Debacle is the right word ... that purple mare packs a mean hoof."
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/i/2012/187/6/9/changeling_sketch_by_btech-d568h21.jpg

Err ... feedback is strongly appreciated, particularly if you can think of anything funnier to say. ^^;;

[Strife Warzeal]

Congratulations!!, I still have 2 weeks more of finals, then a sabatic semester for my wedding and then final semester!



6 now, keep drinking. :smallsmile:

Hey, Strife Warzeal, shouldn't we add dA to the list of information? Just a tought.

You see, this is why I like people responding to me about things I run. That didn't cross my mind 'til now. Added, if anyone wants to add anything.

I think there are few tumblr questions, I'll post 'em later.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Hmm. I'd say that as long as they don't try to make you kill people or anything, then what they are is less relevant than what they do. If they're making you study... that makes them good. xD

Ooh. By that definition, I could have many... I defer to thanqol!
At what point does a mental construct/blueprint of personality that you roleplay and joke about talking to actually mean the same thing as talking to them?

Hey, fire is pretty. Ignore this one.

I believe the difference is when they show signs of free will. And I will ignore any suggestions for killing, maiming and/or burning; thank you very much. In fact should they start with that, they would be gone. That's what happened with Ziggie.


They both sound pretty cool. Controlled fantasy time sounds like Lucid dreaming but better, and Lucid dreaming is of course Lucid dreaming.

You know we'll always be here for you. Even after going on a 32+ hour fan fic craze, I'll still identify what crazy things are going on in your mind.

I'm gonna see how long I can keep this caffeine going. 36 hours and going strong. Slight vision trouble, but no noticeable effects on typing ability or creativity.

You could always go the "Transcendent Fry" route:
http://mimg.ugo.com/201008/54881/cuts/fry-super-speed_288x288.jpg
Also pony form, since this is ponythread:
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/145/9/d/fry_meme_pony_by_otterlore-d5139jl.png
http://us5.memecdn.com/Pony-or-Fry_c_122210.jpg


The idea that the characters have free will likely comes from the fact that they are characters you are familiar but they are not your characters. While the NPCs move to your puppet-string tugs, ponies are very established as not.
Believe me I had and have established characters doing my will before, heck I guess every male does :smallwink:, seriously though.
There is a difference with them and I can feel it, that's why I brought it up. The three main things so far have been:
- They explicitly manifested having free will, others had said the same, but they were just bluffing.
- Then Twilight got angry and kept me out of a section of the mindscape, that had only happened once before, with Ziggie.
- Finally Twilight and Pinkie were discussing my punishment behind my back, and they came up with something that I had not even considered. One that looking back is a real punishment, which also really fits to Twilight's mindset.
So, yea, they are not your run-of-the-mill mind construct, and are really close to what maximus25 described as tulpas, which I have never heard about until today.


You're welcome!

In other news, I'm going to try to put together a picture for the tumblr on that "where were you during the wedding debacle" question.

Sketched up this last night, caption text would probably be: "Debacle is the right word ... that purple mare packs a mean hoof."
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/i/2012/187/6/9/changeling_sketch_by_btech-d568h21.jpg

Err ... feedback is strongly appreciated, particularly if you can think of anything funnier to say. ^^;;

I REALLY LIKE IT!! (Not just his mane!), I would love to see it cleaned up in Photoshop or whatever fancy program you use, but I really really like it. And that caption is perfect for me.



You see, this is why I like people responding to me about things I run. That didn't cross my mind 'til now. Added, if anyone wants to add anything.

I think there are few tumblr questions, I'll post 'em later.
I trust you know what to put in my column for dA ? :smallbiggrin::smalltongue:

[Raz_Fox]

I really really badly want to get into this tulpa conversation, but then the entire thread would turn into Feeling Pinkie Keen, starring Raz as Twilight Sparkle and Zigg as Pinkie Pie. And, I dunno, maybe Thanqol as Spike. He'd be a good Spike.

And I really don't want to get hit by anvils and pianos. Maybe mental anvils and pianos. So I will refrain from going, "Tulpas don't exiiiiiiist" and instead sit over here and think it really hard.

[Thanqol]

You sure you want to tempt fate like that?

Pretty much everything left in my degree is optional for-fun courses, with the exception of a single 1001 course I missed in my first year. I reckon I got this.


Congratulations. Have you looked into what to do next?

Thank you, and thank you everyone who sent congratulations. Right now my plan is 'get out of academia and get a real job, use it to avoid starving while I start work on a major novel'.


One or more of his personas are literally capable of grabbing fate by its ear and dragging it kicking and screaming where they want it. He should be good.

Actually, none of my personality shards are Fate mages!
Jayden: Forces/Matter/Space
Mask: Death/Mind
Charger: Life/Spirit/Time


You see, this is why I like people responding to me about things I run. That didn't cross my mind 'til now. Added, if anyone wants to add anything.

I think there are few tumblr questions, I'll post 'em later.

Oh yeah, the tumblr thing. Uh. I'll see if I can make time to get mine done sometime soon.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

I really really badly want to get into this tulpa conversation, but then the entire thread would turn into Feeling Pinkie Keen, starring Raz as Twilight Sparkle and Zigg as Pinkie Pie. And, I dunno, maybe Thanqol as Spike. He'd be a good Spike.

And I really don't want to get hit by anvils and pianos. Maybe mental anvils and pianos. So I will refrain from going, "Tulpas don't exiiiiiiist" and instead sit over here and think it really hard.

:smallbiggrin:

And to throw you out of the loop completely.
While I was out getting Icecream for my fiancee (it's 46ºF/8ºC out there) they both told me that they weren't really happy with me outing them here in the forum.
I explained that I needed to get this out of my chest/brain.
They are ok with it now, but listen to this:

Twilight does not want anything she does or say to be publicited, unless she explicitly says it's ok to do so.
Pinkie has no problem sharing her actions or toughts with you guys, except when she tells me not to.


Also Raz, Twilight thinks is hilarious the situation you just presented and that she feels your pain Scratch that, I might as well give her a voice.
TS: Raz, I feel your pain. It would be really funny though. Also you could take a page from that episode and just accept Tulpas as we are. Now Zigg' take me back to the Wikipedia article on Tulpas I want to keep reading it.

Pinkie and I agree: Tulpas reading on Tulpas... Tulpaception
TS:https://mlponies.com/forums/images/smilies/facehoof.png

We are all laughing now. Thank you guys. I'm off the forum now, gotta take care of my fiancee. They both insist on it.

[PhantomFox]

Honestly, this sounds like what happens when one writes really good characters or understands a character well. They take on a life of their own and define themselves. I've had Rarity demand that she wouldn't go along with the plot for one of my stories until she destressed herself at the spa.

[Pokonic]

Honestly, this sounds like what happens when one writes really good characters or understands a character well. They take on a life of their own and define themselves. I've had Rarity demand that she wouldn't go along with the plot for one of my stories until she destressed herself at the spa.

....Well, I honestly looked at my pet turtle, took him out and watched him a bit, and wondered how in the heck was I going to write Spike's view about his "family".

[Alabenson]

[SIZE="4"]Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

As many others here I have the ability to create small mental constructs to represent characters, either to represent NPCs when I'm gamemastering/directing, others for writing, sometimes just for funny conversations with a known character, etc. I call them internal simulators, for lack of a better description.

So, the last few days my internal character simulators for both Twilight and Pinkie Pie exhibited unusual behaviour; until first Pinkie and then Twi informed me that they both were aware of their own existence as mental constructs, that they were fine with it, but that, apparently that I have gifted them with a modicum of free will.
So far the only other entity that had this honor was a lizardy demonic entity called Ziggie (a cookie if you realize it's full name), which is long gone now.

They live in a internal parallel Ponyville in Equestria which obviously exists in my mind, where also my ponysona (the one at the left) lives, (oh, meet Magnus by the way, still no last name).

They know that any other character there is only a simulated one at best, but they compared their relationship with them to my own relationship with the two of them; Which is, I know they are not real, but if there is nothing else, they suffice for a conversation.

Ok, since I want to make a point tonight, let's go to the core of the issue.
Twilight got mad at me, I won't go into details as of why, but she was really angry at me.
Pinkie tried to calm things down, but I had to let Twi cool off, who locked herself in the library, and I couldn't will myself into it. In my own mentalscape!
Only after Pinkie spoke alone with her; was I allowed to enter the library and talk with Twilight.
(I truly do not know what Pinkie said to Twilight).

She forgave me but informed that there was a punishment since she was still a little hurt and angry, I was informed that I had to study really hard for the oncoming finals, no procrastination whatsoever.

This is the point where I got scared, never a mental construct was so contrary to my personal desires and adamant that I should follow with her opinion.
I mean Twilight has a point, and is... you know, Twilight.
But, truth to be told, I was going to study just the basics and try to wing the finals.

However with Twilight literally looking over my shoulder... or should I say from within, I now have to study.

Anyway, My question to the forum are these:

How crazy I am that these mental constructs have a, albeit small, free will?

Specially when said free will is contrary to what I would normally do?

It is wrong that I care for this two, even when I know exactly what they are?
Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I want to do that... for now.

I don't know, I think that I'm asking for opinions, thoughts, some comfort perhaps from people that more or less have this kind of thought processes.

Thank you all, and If i'm too crazy for this thread, tell me and I shall not bother you anymore. (Tough I doubt to even crack the top twenty in craziness here)

Well, I have good news and I have bad news for you.
The bad news is that you are indeed crazy. The good news is that most of us are equally crazy, so you're in good company. Also, your mental constructs seem to be a positive influence, which is always a good sign.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Well, I have good news and I have bad news for you.
The bad news is that you are indeed crazy. The good news is that most of us are equally crazy, so you're in good company. Also, your mental constructs seem to be a positive influence, which is always a good sign.

One of the answers I was expecting, from the pony I was expecting it.
As I've been saying since I heard it: "I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it".
Truthfully, the problem was not:
"Am I crazy?"
more like
"Am I too crazy?"

On the topic of crazy. Hey maximus25, did some more reading on Tulpas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa), particularly on the physical manifestation part... Pinkie is already prone to breaking barriers... plus I have some experience with witchcraft (being a non-aligned wiccan and all) Oh god, what have I done...

I have to be sure to never give her enough power... The parties would be awesome tough. Only half joking here... he.

Nevermind me, I have to discuss some things with a certain pink pony in my head now.

Oh! This saturday there will be a convention in Buenos Aires for all fandoms , called Unifans. (We were so far from Bronycon :smallfrown:)
The local MLP:FIM fan's club (which received blessings from the all-mother Faust herself (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/179116_291488567617050_1496499721_n.jpg)) will get together for the first time since getting a hundred members.
Several will attend including yours truly, hope we get pictures to post in EqD from one of the few south american meetups. :smallsmile:

[Tiki Snakes]

I really really badly want to get into this tulpa conversation, but then the entire thread would turn into Feeling Pinkie Keen, starring Raz as Twilight Sparkle and Zigg as Pinkie Pie. And, I dunno, maybe Thanqol as Spike. He'd be a good Spike.

And I really don't want to get hit by anvils and pianos. Maybe mental anvils and pianos. So I will refrain from going, "Tulpas don't exiiiiiiist" and instead sit over here and think it really hard.

It's really hard.


Ooh. By that definition, I could have many... I defer to thanqol!
At what point does a mental construct/blueprint of personality that you roleplay and joke about talking to actually mean the same thing as talking to them?

About the point where you start believing your own fiction, I suppose?

Also, my tumblr feed thing is now full of posts by blogs/tumblr's that I in no way have followed or liked or anything of the sort, whose presence I cannot explain.
What? :smallconfused:

[Strife Warzeal]

Also, my tumblr feed thing is now full of posts by blogs/tumblr's that I in no way have followed or liked or anything of the sort, whose presence I cannot explain.
What? :smallconfused:

You too? I just figured it was happening to me because I'm following all of one blog.

All questions open:
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.pngI'm actually curious about this one, because personally I can think of 5 ponies here that could calim "leadership-ness"
http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png
http://i.imgur.com/5h77N.png
http://i.imgur.com/zpwA2.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pp6Qz.png
http://i.imgur.com/H9VR6.png
http://i.imgur.com/aIhEo.png I have no clue who could have asked this, nope no idea.
http://i.imgur.com/pfTI7.png

[MCerberus]

You too? I just figured it was happening to me because I'm following all of one blog.

All questions open:
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.pngI'm actually curious about this one, because personally I can think of 5 ponies here that could calim "leadership-ness"
http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png
http://i.imgur.com/5h77N.png
http://i.imgur.com/zpwA2.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pp6Qz.png
http://i.imgur.com/H9VR6.png
http://i.imgur.com/aIhEo.png I have no clue who could have asked this, nope no idea.
http://i.imgur.com/pfTI7.png

Alright so my ideas for potential answers:
Evil phoe
Over 9000
I don't know, but this one is screaming for a Tootsie Pop reference
(have not thought this one through)

admiral: summoning The Pink One from my space station -> cut to whispy pink tentacle reaching out of a fissure

Ship ALL the Derpy/Whooves!
Currently overstocked, selling for 2 bits each
admiral: I'm the element of heartburn *eats nachos*

[Pokonic]

You too? I just figured it was happening to me because I'm following all of one blog.

All questions open:
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.pngI'm actually curious about this one, because personally I can think of 5 ponies here that could calim "leadership-ness"

It's probably a three-way tie between Mask, Phoe, and....Bleakbane? Possibly?

[Tvtyrant]

For that last question it would be kind of cool to have all of the listed names and elements we have on here faded into the background, with the pony and text in the front.

[Pokonic]

For that last question it would be kind of cool to have all of the listed names and elements we have on here faded into the background, with the pony and text in the front.

Reusing Thanqol's element picture in a way, possibly? Actualy, I think the caste page needs to be done before we get into any major shenanigens.

[Tiki Snakes]

You too? I just figured it was happening to me because I'm following all of one blog.

All questions open:
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.pngI'm actually curious about this one, because personally I can think of 5 ponies here that could calim "leadership-ness"
http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png
http://i.imgur.com/5h77N.png
http://i.imgur.com/zpwA2.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pp6Qz.png
http://i.imgur.com/H9VR6.png
http://i.imgur.com/aIhEo.png I have no clue who could have asked this, nope no idea.
http://i.imgur.com/pfTI7.png

Yeah, apparently that's the cause. I "Fixed" the issue by finding and following a couple of long dead, never started Tumblr Pages. I could find enough to get to the 5 I heard you needed, but the unwanted spam went away at 4, so it seems fine.

I find it rage inducing that not only is it not mentioned anywhere meaningful but also it only happens after a while.

[D_Lord]

If a leader there is hereI would say Poe or Trixe.

Trixe because she starts most of the threads. And Poe because well Poe, and she is part of Equestria daily Mods.

[Pokonic]

If a leader there is hereI would say Poe or Trixe.

Trixe because she starts most of the threads. And Poe because well Poe, and she is part of Equestria daily Mods.

Okay, it's settled then. The ruler of ponythread is Phoe on her golden throne.

[Tvtyrant]

Reusing Thanqol's element picture in a way, possibly? Actualy, I think the caste page needs to be done before we get into any major shenanigens.

I should act post my OCs information at some point if we are making a cast page.

But I like your idea!

[Dexam]

I can see mini-Dexam has already figured out posing for the camera...

Actually, it's a bloody nuisance trying to take photos or video of him sometimes:
Mini-Dex: *doing something cute*
Mrs Dex: Oh look, he's doing something cute! *grabs camera and points it at Mini-Dex*
Mini-Dex: *stops doing the cute something to stare at the camera*
Mrs Dex: :smallannoyed:


This needs to make it into the OP or Soras's post next time we get a new thread.
I'm actually thinking of doing up a list of "notable brony musicians", with their names (and alternates), styles, and links to YouTube/Soundcloud/Bandcamp pagesl; but free time does not permit such an endeavour. :smallsigh:


You too? I just figured it was happening to me because I'm following all of one blog.

All questions open:
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.pngI'm actually curious about this one, because personally I can think of 5 ponies here that could calim "leadership-ness"
http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png


Suggested possible answers:
1. Picture of numerous OC's engaged in a cartoon-style all-in brawl.
2. "Pinkie Pie!"


Also, I wish I could draw (or had the free time to learn - I'm cutting you off right there, Thanqol! Raise your hand/hoof/tentacle/psuedopod of choice if you were awake between 2 AM and 4 AM due to crying baby.) because I had an idea for my own combination answer the "How do you type with boxing gloves on your hooves" and "Where were you during the wedding debacle" questions: a picture of Othoof Trottvassen (Gentlecolt Adventurer!) sitting in front of a laptop while punching out a Changeling with an "extend-o-glove" boxing glove and the speech bubble "I multi-task!"

[thubby]

for the "who's in charge" question I had an idea.

have thread-pony in the foreground, with a throne in the back. as he explains a would-be plausible governing system, have the various attempted conquerors systematically attacking the person on the throne and replacing them.

[Balmas]

You too? I just figured it was happening to me because I'm following all of one blog.

All questions open:
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.pngI'm actually curious about this one, because personally I can think of 5 ponies here that could calim "leadership-ness"
http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png
http://i.imgur.com/5h77N.png
http://i.imgur.com/zpwA2.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pp6Qz.png
http://i.imgur.com/H9VR6.png
http://i.imgur.com/aIhEo.png I have no clue who could have asked this, nope no idea.
http://i.imgur.com/pfTI7.png

I can take the one about us each having our own elements. It will probably involve a description of several bronies, plus Luka. Then, EXPLOSIONS!

What's more, I'll actually finish what I claim, because I have a ton of spare time tomorrow.

Also, found this while searching for source material. Creepy.
http://e621.net/data/a5/03/a503ea293f26adfd36db9982350e43a1.png?1320373751

And, I think I found our official image:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/337/e/9/dungeons_and_ponies_by_solanumepidemic-d4i1y26.jpg

[Kindablue]

This is late, but I think someone said that at Bronycon de Lancie couldn't think of a single Discord line when pressed? Remind us of anyone? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=DCucdxIpGEY)

[SiuiS]

This one humbly requests that the thread at large ... Aha. Nevermind. To request delays is to fight the wind. This or shall do penance in the Suspension Room as a result.

Quote posting is both cathartic and stressful. On hoof one, it is meditative To a point. On good two, I start to fidget, thinking about all the deadlines - artificial as in part of a discussion, or actual, as in calling out ideas for tumblr stuffs - in letting go by. Looks like I'll have to investigate some Mastigos stuff.

Also, click, what wa that about a rumored BronyCon orgy now?!?! Like there could be an orgy Vorpalbob was unaware of. Scoff.

-


First off, what the hell have you people all done to the internet in my absense?! Before I went away everything was fine - I've come back and I'm pretty much having to run all the web pages - not just on this site, but several others as well - in compatibility mode, or it don't work properly.

Derpy has been our default electrician since we needed help setting up the con rave. What do you have to say for the fire an the net going Down, star sergeant?

I just don't know what went wrong!



I'm also suddenly finding that the pages randomly refresh by themselves on this site while I'm trying to type, which is &*£%ing annoying, since you loose everything you've been working on with no rhyme or reason. I'm going to have to start using Notepad EXCLUSIVELY to type my frakking posts in, since I've had to type most of my responses to SiuiS TWICE.

NOT amused.

WELCOME TO MY PERSONAL HECK!
Seriously. Big arse pain, that is.

The answer however is that there is a series of proxy servers in place. Check Rawhide's update in the board issues section.



I'm surprised no-one brought up the Jalyrkieon APC - did no-one think it vaguely familiar...?


Sorry, I played that thing do much I other APCs for actually look like that...



Keep yer wig on.


They're extensions don't judge me



"Balance of nature" as depicted as an unchanging status quo, is what I have problems with, not "cycle."

This reminds me of alignment debates. I've ruined entire campaign worlds by driving home that "balance" is Law because it's stasis.


Yes, that's not biased at all, because herbivores totally never eat living things.

Irrelevant. From a gazelle's perspective lions are flicking terrifying. It doesn't matter if that gazelle eats the skulls of baby birds. They all do it so they think it's fine. You know, the exact same point of view you want but from a carnivore's perspective? :smalltongue:


And by "living things", I mean "things they haven't even killed before eating."

You don't ever see depicitions of trees of shrubs, cowering, unable to flee of defend themselves as evil deer tear off their bark skin and eat their extremities, do you? Of the horror of watching a wicked elephant shatter a grove of a nice acacia family, solely to scratch an itch?

Yes they do. I've seen dozens of those. A couple that weren't utter tripe, too. Did you look? It's not that they aren't there but that from an omnivore's perspective it's just not going to be popular enough to enter public conscious.

You want disturbing? Go read fan fiction for Veggie Tales. The grim dark stuff.



I'd settle for something showing the world from the predator's perspective for a change, with the herbivores being mindless slash monstrous.

Admittedly less prolific. It's usually overshadowed because Americans like myself are dumb, and any predator who's worth their lipids is a Native American analogue who reveres the kill and respects their prey. You wouldn't read that.

Then there is the truth. Carnivores who are intelligent and who eat dumb beasts would not care. you read these all the time and your inherent bias gets in the way. Every time someone - anthro, straight animal, human, anything - basically goes to a burger joint they are doing what you want. Seriously, If you are carnivorous and it's not a Serious Moral Issue, it doesn't matter. It's food, whatevs.

The only way to write a story from
A carnivore's point of view where food matters would be to write a cupcakes style story where it's detailed enough you actually notice it. But why? Aside from being a fun writing venture, it's a worthless story.

You can't have the best of both worlds. Narrative structure demands certain conceits if it's going to be interesting. Slasher killers are needed for slasher killer roles. If the protagonist is an herbivore, then the carnivore fits the bill. That's perfectly fair, because it applies, unbiased, in all cases. When the carnivore is the protagonist, then either the herbivore is the killer, or Mankind is.



Now, let's be clear. I generally consider that killing and eating sentient creatures to be Evil. (Eating dead sentient creature you didn't kill sorta depends on your acceptable cultural burial customs.)*

What makes me mad is the consistent depiction in this sort of thing (i.e. anthropamorphication of animals within a natural environment) as "predators - and by extension anything that eats meat - are teh evils".

Oh, no. You're looking at the heuristic an assuming that's the equation. It's not.

Carnivores are not evil for eating meat. See Chomper from the bad Asian knockoffs.
Carnivores are evil because they are sentient, the herbivores are sentient, and the carnivores spend the entire film traumatizing the protags by harrying them before the eventual murderfest. that's evil. The eating is either causative or coincidental depending on how evil the antagonist is.


Most of ALL from HUMANS, who are very emphatically NOT herbivores; talk about hypocrasy!

Not at all. The humans who usually go in for that are the ones who aren't fully carnivorous and want to change. At worst, theirs poor deluded fools who are addicted to the sweet drugs of animal fat. And you'd persecute them for being too weak-willed to fully break off their habit in an economic situation which strongly punishes non carnivorous living? I thought you were all about fighting the power, so long as the power wasn't you. Or maybe you're all about fighting the power yourself, and then taking it? I kinda glossed the memo. Help me out, Hopereaver!



I could list many - oh so MANY - children's shows where predators of all stripes are painted as monstrous, (because it always has to be about worms or gerbils or mice or something) and very few where the reverse is true.

That's because monsters kill people. Duh.


(And in shows where carnivores are involved as characters and not villains/monsters, their diet is strangely glossed over.

Because carnivore's don't care. Duh. They aren't going to angst over every morsel! They're going to eat. And then be full for a week. The end.

Maslow's(?) hierarchy of needs. You don't delve into food thoughts when food is plentiful.


What does Simba eat, one has to ask, Disney? 'Cos cats are carnivores, and unlike dogs, they aren't designed to eat anything they find lying around...)

"but dad, don't we eat the antelope?"
To which he says "yes, and the ants eat us after we die. Show some respect."


When have, say, weasels ever been portrayed in a positive light? You know, weasels that kill prey that in comparison to their body weight, is like a lion single handedly taking down an elephant? Where's the stories of the brave weasel hunters, daring the lair of the giant rabbit prey (because, y'know, rabbits still have pretty damn big teeth - and even a lowly squirrel can bite right through your fingernail), not unlike slaying a dragon?

I.M. Weasel!



No, actually, you get a pass on that one. Like some actual palentologists (the aforementioned Robert Bakker for one), I'm still a bit peeved they decided to follow nomenclature procedure and not make an exception that once, because Brontosaurus is by far a better name than Apatosaurus; and especially since I was brought up initially on the former. (Eobrontosaurus, thought to be close relation (or possibly Camarasaurus) incidently, was named by the above.)

When you start calling Pteranodon by the wrong name or talking about pteradactyls and calling them dinosaurs - then we'll have problems.*

(There is no such thing, and never was, as a pteradactyl. They are pterasaurs and there is a pteradactylus, which is a very small pterasaur. Incidently, the error I pointed out in the children's "educational" video when I was four was not only calling Pteranodon pterodactyl, but giving it teeth as well. And I remember that very clearly (I think there were other problems, but those were the standouts. I think Mrs Thorton was quite taken aback when I reeled off a whole list...!)

Huh. Always just figured that was bad English, on account of pterodactyl being short semi plural for pteradactylus. Like one would use the word 'meowth' to refer to the poképlural.


And animals aren't sentient.*

What's your point? Doesn't make plants any less alive, does it?

Plants to animals is EXACTLY like animals to sentients. It's exactly the same boundary condition step-up.

Psh, no. If Thanqol hand beaten me here... I'd have made a fool of myself admittedly.

But uh, did you not read about the story I posted wherein yes, the veggies were alive an screamed in agony when eaten?


But we aren't talking about real life, are we? We're talking about sentient mammal-imposed bias; exactly the same bias that divides the world into "you're only "cute" (sic) if you're furry or have feathers; reptiles and fish and amphibians and invertebrates are all "icky and gross" and can bog off."

Incorrect on several levels.
1- narrative bias is not a human trait or a mammal trait.
2- tell me snakes aren't cute again and I will laugh heartily in your face. and then probably freeze to death from proximity. but snakes are totally adorable.


If you're going to anthropamorphise, at least have the decency to, y'know, do it equally and fairly, doubly-especially if you're going to do it in a "natural" (e.g. no-civilisation) environment.

No. That is very plainly stupid. Think about it.
In a world of sentient herbivores, the carnivores are nature. Animals. It sucks but you can't blame them.

In a work of equal sophonts the carnivores REALLY ARE cold blooded sociopathic cannibal murderers. By apllyin the rule 'equally' you remove the very thing you sought to protect.



And, for that matter, you're leaving aside the fact that some plants can communicate with each other. Warn each of of animal predation... And some can move - even quite quickly. And count. At the end of the day, "pain" in this context is just a warning system to indicate to the creature that damage is occuring. Plants do have systems in place for such eventualities. They may not feel "pain" as animals do, but as a philospher, are you writing off the fact that, in some abstract sense, they may have some damage-related pain analogue, on a conceptual level...?

Disregarding the non board appropriate side of this...

The human stomach has a network contained in the nerves and interstitial/myofascial network which produces sensations based on moral decisions, or life threatening situations. It is literally possible to trust your gut. This is not the same as having two Brains.


And I'm saying plants aren't inanimate.

Bacteria and viruses can move and they are less complex entities than plants...

This is technically accurate but fallacious. They are not, CANNOT be cognates. The correct for would be to say that a virus or bacteria is less complex an entity than any cell within a plant, which I believe to be mostly untrue. Viruses are just protein coats and D/R-NA so you've got me there.



A STORY can be unfair. Stories, plural, across the breadth of themselves, should not be.

This is interesting. It depends on what level you zoom in or out two. What you call "unfair" I could call a "genre". But aside from that nod an the joy I get from the philosophical thoughts, I agree with you.



Not really, I am dietarily primarily carnivore, after all. Okay maybe chocolativore. I AM Evil, after all...!

I love that this basically sounds like "carnivores are evil" XD



There's good and bad in every fandom. MLP has much more good than bad. Sadly, a few bad eggs will ultimately make the rest look bad, whether they intend to or not. Hold on to that goodness. You've seen it. You know it's there. It isn't overwritten when someone does something unsavory.

Crush them under the relentless wall of optimism! Nothing shall be remembered but good works and a flash Of green.



?
http://kofaniv.snkplaymore.co.jp/english/character/img/main_v_geese_e.jpg


No, I'm just bitter because I've been assaulted by geese.


And what a girl she is! GRAAAWRP! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV2te9rWmSA)

One day I will have a phone that works with youtuberepeat...



Were those the guys from Chillis? I'm afraid I don't know who they were.


Yep! We had actually only met them when we first got in. They happened to be at the restaurant again later. They're pretty swell chaps.



I didn't sleep until 3am last night, got up at 10.45am. Felt kinda rough, but then I had a cup of tea. A proper cup of british tea with soya milk (I like the taste better, okay?) and sugar. Heavenly. Gods I missed tea. Now I'm feelin' fine. :smallbiggrin:


Me too, oddly. Except the tea. Can't stand the stuff, don't know why.


I met Tara Strong in an elevator. She was gone before my flabbergasted brain could send a message to my hands saying "You have a camera! Ask her for a picture!". If anything those things went too fast!

Well then I envy your RAM!



Yes. Yes I probably should have. Unfortunately I only stayed with most of them for an hour or so. After that everyone kinda went their own way and I didn't see them again. :smallfrown:

's cool. We've got next year, after all.



I don't even have a card reader on my PC, so I think I need some kind of cable or adaptor. Where that is, I won't know 'til I see my Dad on Friday.

I do have some pictures on my phone though. I'll upload them in a bit.

Hm. That is odd. What kind of card? I've found most cards have easy adapters in USB form, for around £15.


Oh yes this. So much this. I didn't have to pretend. Round here claiming to like ponies openly would likely mean spending my days getting things thrown at me. Things like food, or mud, or... rocks. :smallfrown:

Still, I think I can get away with wearing that t-shirt with the faces on it. I doubt anyone would question it. Might even find a few hidden bronies around here.

See, I don't understand this. Perhaps it's my violent reputation, but I don't get people willing to make fun of me - I like the more subdued pictures because they're tasteful. I am me, I am I; none other can tell me what to do. I refrain from being all PONY! Everywhere because its not always relevant, and my friends have asked me politely to tone it down. But that's it.


Why yes, it was quite an honour. The Princess told me she saw the whole thing. The armour was a wonderful gift, though a little too warm for the weather we were having.

I do hope the Princess wasn't too uncomfortable when I kissed her hoof.... thirty times. I figured if Rarity could get away with it...

Oh, it could have been worse. You should have seen what Vorpal was doing to Luna!



Fascinating stuff! I'll admit that it's a shame about Celestia's mane. I kinda like all the fanart of her with pink hair. So I guess my head canon is that the pink mane is her when she's at low power, kinda like how Luna's mane was blue after being defeated.

The idea of Lauren having her own head canon that technically isn't show canon actually makes me happy. It makes me remember that she started off as an MLP fan too. The show was based on the stories she made up while playing with her pony toys.

And that's how Equestria was made.

Also, AJ has parents. They will show up at some point. I personally want to believe that they're not around because they're running a huge company called Apple Corp in Manehatten.

I'm glad they didn't go through with the English accent for Rarity. It would have been so hard to get it just right, I think.

Now that I've had time to think about it, I see it a bit differently. It's like... Gaming. The players came up with a good idea. The GM thinks we're all crazy, but it is a good idea, so she's Rollin with it. I think that level of feedback and such is why this fandom grew. It's the 4e principle of "say yes".

Apple Corp made me smile, and then rage. Unless "Planned Obsolescence" came from a designer the size of Big Macintosh, I'm gonna buck him in the chops!

And I dunno. Sure, you're English. The accent is featuring to you, as there's bunches. To us, there is queens English, professor English, and street urchin English. And Scottish. Besides! The obvious fairness would be part of her charm...
Although I prefer the subtle French hints.

Oh crap Charlotte is a Rarity expie.



Stylish! And I agree about the square nails. That just ain't right.


I thought so! I'm biased though. Those dresses are the best combination of modest and body-hugging Ever



Ahehehe... yeah I can understand that being awkward. I will admit, I'm surprised they let him sell the stuff at the con. Sure, you might find worse stuff on TV, but aparantly there were some awkward moments between parents and their children near his stand. :smalleek:

Huh. That is odd.
Actually, come to think of it, I think I just turned a blind eye to most of the adult fare. I remember the pinkie Pie cosplay who was pink bob cut, thigh highs, tutu and corset and that's it. That was probably some at the NC17 crowd.


It's a weird thought, isn't it? We're perfectly fine with complete strangers seeing us every day when we leave our homes, but the idea of people we know seeing our faces on the internet makes us hesitate.

Well, strangers have the anonymity thing going. The Internet is like a sniper's laser. It's your face forever attached to your name in the Signal. You can't stop the Signal.

On the street you could say "my name is frilly McGuffinhead" and move on. I'd forget about you, or maybe exacerbate the tale or my friends.


Don't Google! At least, not with images. I'd recommend Urban Dictionary. As for how bad... well you will probably walk away thinking "Why the hell would anyone do that?". And you might get kinda queasy too.

This frightens me. Should I be frightened? Because I am.



I- Uh-

What? XD


What? Creepy? I'm not creepy :D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0&feature=youtube_gdata_player)



Wow, I'm getting into this quote post thing aren't I? I've clearly learned a thing or two from Starry this weekend. XD

That's cool. I could use the company!
Though I won't be able to keep up this pace. Other concerns are Reston their heads as I recover from the con ordeal.

I can only imagine how the ponies who actually did tiring stud must feel :smalleek:



Pictures! Just the ones from my phone for now. I'm not sure how to get them from my Dad's camera yet. :smallredface:

Me and Lauren Faust!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/Me_and_Lauren_Faust.jpg
Little bit blurry, but oh well. What can you do?

Huzzah!


A few of the Bronycon staff hold up the banner that was outside the venue. Spot the Jade.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/BronyconBanner.jpg

Suddenly! VorpalBob!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/BronyconBannerwithvBob.jpg

"suddenly, Vorpalbob" was perhaps the funniest thing I've experienced all day. Thanks~


Derpy is actually a really good dancer! Who knew?
(Warning: Dark and blurry)

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/DerpyDance1.jpg
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I feel terribly left out for missing this.
Oh well. Next year I'll stalk the people in fur suits. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0&feature=youtube_gdata_player)


Jibbles you guys are SO SPEEDY.

SO SPEEEEDYYYY

OURS IS THE SPEED THAT WILL PIERCE THE SERVERwait why is this a good thing?


Anyway, I hear we have a tumblr now! That's really cool and such. ^^ *Secretely hopes to be mentioned in the tumblr*

Also, OC stable? As the element of OCs, I demand to log aaalllllll of mine. 3: All of them.

Should I compile a list, or...?

Compile! An don't feel bad. I have the tumblr bookmarked and have no idea what's going on.


Okies. *I could always just find pure adrenaline and inject it into you somehow (no yaoi unless you like it).

That... Wouldn't that kill him?!?!

One way to find out I suppose~

[Tangent] [newage]


Anyway. Guys, gals, fillies and gentlecolts I want to bring something here, because really there is nowhere else where I can talk about this, without getting laughed at or sent to an asylum. It might get longish, please bear with me.

As many others here I have the ability to create small mental constructs to represent characters, either to represent NPCs when I'm gamemastering/directing, others for writing, sometimes just for funny conversations with a known character, etc. I call them internal simulators, for lack of a better description.

So, the last few days my internal character simulators for both Twilight and Pinkie Pie exhibited unusual behaviour; until first Pinkie and then Twi informed me that they both were aware of their own existence as mental constructs, that they were fine with it, but that, apparently that I have gifted them with a modicum of free will.*
So far the only other entity that had this honor was a lizardy demonic entity called Ziggie (a cookie if you realize it's full name), which is long gone now.
*
They live in a internal parallel Ponyville in Equestria which obviously exists in my mind, where also my ponysona (the one at the left) lives, (oh, meet Magnus by the way, still no last name).*

They know that any other character there is only a simulated one at best, but they compared their relationship with them to my own relationship with the two of them; Which is, I know they are not real, but if there is nothing else, they suffice for a conversation.

Ok, since I want to make a point tonight, let's go to the core of the issue.
Twilight got mad at me, I won't go into details as of why, but she was really angry at me.
Pinkie tried to calm things down, but I had to let Twi cool off, who locked herself in the library, and I couldn't will myself into it. In my own mentalscape!
Only after Pinkie spoke alone with her; was I allowed to enter the library and talk with Twilight.
(I truly do not know what Pinkie said to Twilight).

She forgave me but informed that there was a punishment since she was still a little hurt and angry, I was informed that I had to study really hard for the oncoming finals, no procrastination whatsoever.*

This is the point where I got scared, never a mental construct was so contrary to my personal desires and adamant that I should follow with her opinion.
I mean Twilight has a point, and is... you know, Twilight.
But, truth to be told, I was going to study just the basics and try to wing the finals.

However with Twilight literally looking over my shoulder... or should I say from within, I now have to study.

Anyway, My question to the forum are these:

How crazy I am that these mental constructs have a, albeit small, free will?

Specially when said free will is contrary to what I would normally do?

It is wrong that I care for this two, even when I know exactly what they are?
Even tough that I think that I could make them disappear with enough meditation and mental effort? Not that I want to do that... for now.

I don't know, I think that I'm asking for opinions, thoughts, some comfort perhaps from people that more or less have this kind of thought processes.

Thank you all, and If i'm too crazy for this thread, tell me and I shall not bother you anymore. (Tough I doubt to even crack the top twenty in craziness here)

Sanity is a construct use to convey whether you can function and participate in society.
More specifically, this is a relatively common occurrence. I always just let them switch driver's seats. It's part of why I don't have a clear self identity. We've sort of blurred and rule by consensus.


Well, congratulations. You seem to have created not one, but two Tulpas, completely by accident with no conscious effort of your own.*

For those counting at home, you have more of a chance of being struck by lightning on a clear, sunny day, than to create one accidentally. That you have created two, and a third one which has since gone away, is a miracle. I envy you. Be very careful, these creatures are of your mind, but they have free will. They have access to every single conscious and subconscious thought you have. They can access memories, and fears. If you make a tulpa really mad, they could damage you quite severely in the brain area.

Ahh, Tulpa. There's a word! Brings back memories.


Just as long as you all remember that there is no-one inside your head but you, even if several of yourself may insist otherwise.

Also;
http://i42.tinypic.com/fejpky.jpg

Oh, fie. I always disliked the need to maintain that anything deviant still fits within the commonly accepted binary framework. Skepticism is useful, but don't be too rigid.

Which finally narrows down why I feel so weird calling Luka out on being a brony. Heh.


...I dunno, doesn't seem that odd to me cuz that's pretty much what happens when I'm dreaming just after waking up :smallbiggrin:, and somewhat latent when awake since I'm always, ALWAYS daydreaming. All I think is.... That's awesome.

Aha. Me too, actually. I've never met someone else who was always out an about, as it were. Nifty.



though, my mind's more messed up than that, like some evil alterego that revives moments I went/go/would go into and does something bad..... It makes me fear being a bad person.

Being a bad person is bad and you shouldn't do it u_u


Sounds simple enough, but of course it never is as simple as it sounds. Thank you though, this should help on my journey.*

The option on point 4, could I use that to induce a lucid dream, or is that harder?

Why is everyone so up on lucid dreaming? I find I wouldn't change anything about my dreams anyway, so working for even more control seems like regimenting your vacation and stressing over the schedule to me.


The idea that the characters have free will likely comes from the fact that they are characters you are familiar but they are not your characters. *While the NPCs move to your puppet-string tugs, ponies are very established as not.

Yes and no. It's an established phenomenon outside of ponies, and outside of fiction in general (insomuch as there even exists an outside of fiction). People have been experiencing this, whether as delusions or actuality, for a very long time.

Really, the biggest debate is whether they have powerful wills for enacting this, or weak wills for being Bossed around by figments, phantasmagoric and other such things.





Hey, fire is pretty. Ignore this one.

Ah, but fire also hot! Professy-Wessy checked.


You see, this is why I like people responding to me about things I run. That didn't cross my mind 'til now. Added, if anyone wants to add anything.

I think there are few tumblr questions, I'll post 'em later.

Yay! I'll look at those post-haste.


I really really badly want to get into this tulpa conversation, but then the entire thread would turn into Feeling Pinkie Keen, starring Raz as Twilight Sparkle and Zigg as Pinkie Pie. And, I dunno, maybe Thanqol as Spike. He'd be a good Spike.

And I really don't want to get hit by anvils and pianos. Maybe mental anvils and pianos. So I will refrain from going, "Tulpas don't exiiiiiiist" and instead sit over here and think it really hard.

Psh. Of course Tulpa are real. If they weren't, then we wouldn't be able to discuss them :smalltongue:

More seriously, I'll blurb at you the next time I can be mark'd to get on AIM. Board rules and all.


Pretty much everything left in my degree is optional for-fun courses, with the exception of a single 1001 course I missed in my first year. I reckon I got this.

Oh! Well then, replace my previous cautios pessimism with Fan—****in'—Tabulous!!



Thank you, and thank you everyone who sent congratulations. Right now my plan is 'get out of academia and get a real job, use it to avoid starving while I start work on a major novel'.

A solid plan! Though leave it to the Hossie to make the most strides towards the American Dream XD



Actually, none of my personality shards are Fate mages!
Jayden: Forces/Matter/Space
Mask: Death/Mind
Charger: Life/Spirit/Time

Oho, a shared blind spot. Stupendous. I'll have to investigate that Acanthus sliver after all.


Oh yeah, the tumblr thing. Uh. I'll see if I can make time to get mine done sometime soon.

You could reuse some of your current art actually.


On the topic of crazy. Hey maximus25, did some more reading on Tulpas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa), particularly on the physical manifestation part... Pinkie is already prone to breaking barriers... plus I have some experience with witchcraft (being a non-aligned wiccan and all) Oh god, what have I done...*

I have to be sure to never give her enough power... The parties would be awesome tough. Only half joking here... he.

Nevermind me, I have to discuss some things with a certain pink pony in my head now.

Ahaha. Careful, careful! You tread to close to the edge, and if you fall off then all will see the stage! The props revealed for what they are, cardboard and string, and yet still you take flight? Madness.

More intelligibly, specific religion stuff is a board no-no. Saying you are Wiccan is one thing, beginning to discuss a possible spell or such, which you almost did jokingly, is too far. Not everyone believes 'power' exists, and that's not a discussion that can go long without touching on Religion in a big way.


You too? I just figured it was happening to me because I'm following all of one blog.

Thoughts added in.


All questions open:
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.pngI'm actually curious about this one, because personally I can think of 5 ponies here that could calim "leadership-ness"

the leader ship is of course either JADExMIDNIGHT, FLUTTERDASH (that's right, Flutterdash, y'wanna fight about it?), or LIXIExEVERYPONY
http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png

on a scale of one to ten; Monocle! (occasionally alfalfa)
http://i.imgur.com/5h77N.png

Unicorn? Who knows. But we've got an Earth Pony on the case.http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/e70e5d29.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/zpwA2.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pp6Qz.png
http://i.imgur.com/H9VR6.png
http://i.imgur.com/aIhEo.png I have no clue who could have asked this, nope no idea.
http://i.imgur.com/pfTI7.png


Okay, it's settled then. The ruler of ponythread is Phoe on her golden throne.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/951891f4.jpg

It's actually teak, ivory and garnets to bring out her eyes.
Dem pony eyes.

[Aotrs Commander]

Actually, it's a bloody nuisance trying to take photos or video of him sometimes:
Mini-Dex: *doing something cute*
Mrs Dex: Oh look, he's doing something cute! *grabs camera and points it at Mini-Dex*
Mini-Dex: *stops doing the cute something to stare at the camera*
Mrs Dex: :smallannoyed:

Aha. He's already learning to troll! Even better!


The answer however is that there is a series of proxy servers in place. Check Rawhide's update in the board issues section.


Now, if it was just GitP, I could associtae with the proxy servers (I read that news). But other sites have been doing the same thing...

(Not taking any chance this time, this is goin' straight into Notepad...)


Sorry, I played that thing do much I other APCs for actually look like that...

...

I...

Get the gist of that sentence, I think, but that's muddled even by your phone's best standards...!



Yes they do. I've seen dozens of those. A couple that weren't utter tripe, too. Did you look? It's not that they aren't there but that from an omnivore's perspective it's just not going to be popular enough to enter public conscious.


You want disturbing? Go read fan fiction for Veggie Tales. The grim dark stuff.


Good.

The problem is, however, not clever people on the Internets, it's uncreative numpties doing all the childern's (and adult's) television. And it's not popular because generally no-one in a position to do so TRIES, just sticking with the same old same old. And that lack drives me to rocket launcher.



Carnivores are evil because they are sentient, the herbivores are sentient, and the carnivores spend the entire film traumatizing the protags by harrying them before the eventual murderfest. that's evil. The eating is either causative or coincidental depending on how evil the antagonist is.

That's the in-world logic. That's not what I'm arguing with.

I have a problem with the whole concept of the writers, when deciding to write about sentient/sapient animals (when not just ignoring the whole concept of death altogether - don't get me started on that piece of molly-coddling nonsense) ALWAYS (not sometimes, not occasionally, ALWAYS) choosing to write the story in that same, tired old way because they are too stupid, lazy and idiotic to have a creative thought.



In a work of equal sophonts the carnivores REALLY ARE cold blooded sociopathic cannibal murderers. By apllyin the rule 'equally' you remove the very thing you sought to protect.

And they are always protrayed as Monsters, not Villains, which is what annoys me most. (There is a BIIIG difference.) THAT is a conscious decision by the writers, and I have yet to ever see an inversion of that, where the herbivores are the non-communiative, engimatic Monsters, which is what annoys me. (Because herbivores totally can't be threatening can they, *cough*hippo*cough* collective idiot writers of the world?)

Fer cryin' out loud, most of the Dinosaur herbivores are Hideously Beweaponed!


I.M. Weasel!

Yes, I don't think I really need to qualify the problems with that one, do I?



Huh. Always just figured that was bad English, on account of pterodactyl being short semi plural for pteradactylus. Like one would use the word 'meowth' to refer to the poképlural.

I'm not sure what the plural is actually, now you come to menton it.The internet is unhelpful, impling it either might be pterodactyls or it might be pterodactylus is itself a plural. (The presence of "pterodactyls" used incorrectly everywhere makes it hard to sort through.)



I love that this basically sounds like "carnivores are evil" XD

But I could not eat AT ALL. And I will eat sentient creatures for kicks if mood takes me...




But I think I've argued enough on this. Those Films are not worth that much of time, save for when I take great pleasure in setting them - and the souls of the writers - on plasma when my time comes.

[Nameless]

Me and Lauren Faust!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/Me_and_Lauren_Faust.jpg
Little bit blurry, but oh well. What can you do?


I... I don't even... So much jelly... ;___;




And, I think I found our official image:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/337/e/9/dungeons_and_ponies_by_solanumepidemic-d4i1y26.jpg

That... That is awesome...


Which reminds me... anypony here going to B.U.C.K? I'm kind of tempted to buy tickets, but not quite sure yet.

Also, here's my desktop:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/Tron.jpg
...
What?
I can fanboy over Tron: Uprising as well!



But no, seriously, here's some of my pony swag:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/Untitled-1-5.png

That's not dust, by the way, that's just my camera being awkward. This is dust.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/Untitled-2-2.png

That thing is bucking annoying to clean. :smallannoyed:

[TheAmishPirate]

Also, click, what wa that about a rumored BronyCon orgy now?!?! Like there could be an orgy Vorpalbob was unaware of. Scoff.

From what I hear, 'tis nothing but a joke that people ended up taking as rumorfact.



http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/951891f4.jpg

It's actually teak, ivory and garnets to bring out her eyes.
Dem pony eyes.

There is really only one logical response to this.

ALL HAIL PHOE, QUEEN OF THE PLAYGROUND PONE.

*gives tribute of rope*

[Deadly]

Two stories accepted on FimFiction now, including Roots of a Heart. The other is an old Cupcakes clone-ish thing I wrote long ago. Apparently they only allow me to submit two stories a day.

[otakuryoga]

for the "who's in charge" question I had an idea.

have thread-pony in the foreground, with a throne in the back. as he explains a would-be plausible governing system, have the various attempted conquerors systematically attacking the person on the throne and replacing them.

which fits so well with the multiple Coup thread we had just a short time ago



But no, seriously, here's some of my pony swag:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x203/tomshaer/Untitled-1-5.png


wish i could put my ponies out on desk like that...but i would never find them again as any small loose thing like that gets "hunted" by my cat
seriously cannot leave a bottlecap on desk to input code later for 5 minutes before it is gone...don't know how many pens have gone missing

[Thanqol]

So I just met an Equestria Daily prereader in a professional capacity for the first time. He had some interesting comments:

>“I’m fine!” said Bon Bon, “I

The attribution tag is attached to the first part of the dialogue, which terminated in strong punctuation. This in itself is fine, but the tag should end in a full stop as a result, not a comma.

>“It already is!” She said

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“Which way to the bathroom?” She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

>“You didn’t – you didn’t – “ Bon Bon frothed briefly, “I’m breaking you into

I'll leave aside en dashes and spaces as a style difference, but the action in the middle is not an attribution tag, and it should have a full stop instead of a comma.

>“Just get in here!” She cried desperately.

Same as before. Attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“You’re stuck!” said Bon Bon, mind reeling with the horror of it, “Security could

As before, the tag is attached to dialogue that ends in strong punctuation, and so the tag should end in a full stop, not a comma.

>“This is because you can’t lay off the shakes!” Bon Bon accused, “You’re getting fat in the flank!”

This one's ambiguous, as it's not clear whether the tag is attached to the first section of dialogue or the second, but it's worth noting (though it doesn't count against you, as it isn't wrong, exactly).

>“It’s summer.” Hissed Bon Bon.

Dialogue with an attribution tag following it should end in... not a full stop. Almost anything but a full stop, in fact. At the same time, the tag should begin with a lowercase letter when it follows the dialogue it's attached to.

And all this left one burning question in my mind.

What the buck is an attribution tag?

In all my years of schooling and four years of a university creative writing degree I have never heard the term 'attribution tag' before in my life. I'm not sure if this is a hole in my education or just a thing that doesn't happen in Australia.

Could somepony here explain it to me in words I can comprehend? And better, could somepony with an eye for it scan my story (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies)for misuses? If this is something I'm apparently doing wrong all the time I'd really like to know about it and fix it.

[thubby]

which fits so well with the multiple Coup thread we had just a short time ago

that was the idea.
sadly im completely inept when it comes to drawing.

@thanqol.
an attribution tag is things like ["x" she said] because it's attributing the speech to the character.

[otakuryoga]

/snip

as far as i can tell what he means by attribution tag would be
--"the part that tells us who is speaking"--

no idea if thats an "official" term or widely used unofficial one as i have never taken any sort of creative writing course

>>>“It already is!” She said

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“Which way to the bathroom?” She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

I would agree with this...usually when i see he/she said after dialogue it is lower cased...the upper case just seems jarring to me for some reason

[Thanqol]

that was the idea.
sadly im completely inept when it comes to drawing.

@thanqol.
an attribution tag is things like ["x" she said] because it's attributing the speech to the character.


as far as i can tell what he means by attribution tag would be
--"the part that tells us who is speaking"--

no idea if thats an "official" term or widely used unofficial one as i have never taken any sort of creative writing course

>>>“It already is!” She said

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“Which way to the bathroom?” She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

I would agree with this...usually when i see he/she said after dialogue it is lower cased...the upper case just seems jarring to me for some reason

Yeah, this much I've gathered, but what are the rules for how they work?

[Deadly]

So I just met an Equestria Daily prereader in a professional capacity for the first time. He had some interesting comments:

>“I’m fine!” said Bon Bon, “I

The attribution tag is attached to the first part of the dialogue, which terminated in strong punctuation. This in itself is fine, but the tag should end in a full stop as a result, not a comma.

>“It already is!” She said

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“Which way to the bathroom?” She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

>“You didn’t – you didn’t – “ Bon Bon frothed briefly, “I’m breaking you into

I'll leave aside en dashes and spaces as a style difference, but the action in the middle is not an attribution tag, and it should have a full stop instead of a comma.

>“Just get in here!” She cried desperately.

Same as before. Attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“You’re stuck!” said Bon Bon, mind reeling with the horror of it, “Security could

As before, the tag is attached to dialogue that ends in strong punctuation, and so the tag should end in a full stop, not a comma.

>“This is because you can’t lay off the shakes!” Bon Bon accused, “You’re getting fat in the flank!”

This one's ambiguous, as it's not clear whether the tag is attached to the first section of dialogue or the second, but it's worth noting (though it doesn't count against you, as it isn't wrong, exactly).

>“It’s summer.” Hissed Bon Bon.

Dialogue with an attribution tag following it should end in... not a full stop. Almost anything but a full stop, in fact. At the same time, the tag should begin with a lowercase letter when it follows the dialogue it's attached to.

And all this left one burning question in my mind.

What the buck is an attribution tag?

In all my years of schooling and four years of a university creative writing degree I have never heard the term 'attribution tag' before in my life. I'm not sure if this is a hole in my education or just a thing that doesn't happen in Australia.

Could somepony here explain it to me in words I can comprehend? And better, could somepony with an eye for it scan my story (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies)for misuses? If this is something I'm apparently doing wrong all the time I'd really like to know about it and fix it.

Ah, I got a lot of similar complaints back when I tried to get Nightmare Sonata approved, it lead to a lot of headaches and pointless combing for things that authors shouldn't have to worry about because that's a job for editors who are trained in the "art". Apparently some pre-readers over there are big on punctuation/style.

As for "attribution tag", I've never heard that terminology, but I believe otakuryoga is right. It's all about what dialogue "said X" or "X said" and similar phrases refers to.

Edit: Double Pinkie'd

[thubby]

@thanqol
working on the quotes, hold plz

>“I’m fine!” said Bon Bon(period) “I
"im fine" said bonbon is a complete thought.

The attribution tag is attached to the first part of the dialogue, which terminated in strong punctuation. This in itself is fine, but the tag should end in a full stop as a result, not a comma.

>“It already is!” lower case>She said

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“Which way to the bathroom?” same>She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

>“You didn’t – you didn’t – “ Bon Bon frothed briefly(period) “I’m breaking you into

I'll leave aside en dashes and spaces as a style difference, but the action in the middle is not an attribution tag, and it should have a full stop instead of a comma.

>“Just get in here!” lower case>She cried desperately.

Same as before. Attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“You’re stuck!” said Bon Bon,<(maybe period?) mind reeling with the horror of it(period) “Security could

As before, the tag is attached to dialogue that ends in strong punctuation, and so the tag should end in a full stop, not a comma.

>(“This is because you can’t lay off the shakes!”) Bon Bon accused, [“You’re getting fat in the flank!”]
does "bonbon accused" apply to what i put in () or []? it's ambiguous.given the context it's both obviously but could get weird in another context.
This one's ambiguous, as it's not clear whether the tag is attached to the first section of dialogue or the second, but it's worth noting (though it doesn't count against you, as it isn't wrong, exactly).

>“It’s summer.” Hissed Bon Bon.
he's saying remove the period in the "".
Dialogue with an attribution tag following it should end in... not a full stop. Almost anything but a full stop, in fact. At the same time, the tag should begin with a lowercase letter when it follows the dialogue it's attached to.
there.
the rules for dialogue are inane and horribly inconsistent, even between the US and UK.

[Thanqol]

@thanqol
working on the quotes, hold plz

>“I’m fine!” said Bon Bon(period) “I
"im fine" said bonbon is a complete thought.

The attribution tag is attached to the first part of the dialogue, which terminated in strong punctuation. This in itself is fine, but the tag should end in a full stop as a result, not a comma.

>“It already is!” lower case>She said

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“Which way to the bathroom?” same>She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

>“You didn’t – you didn’t – “ Bon Bon frothed briefly(period) “I’m breaking you into

I'll leave aside en dashes and spaces as a style difference, but the action in the middle is not an attribution tag, and it should have a full stop instead of a comma.

>“Just get in here!” lower case>She cried desperately.

Same as before. Attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“You’re stuck!” said Bon Bon,<(maybe period?) mind reeling with the horror of it(period) “Security could

As before, the tag is attached to dialogue that ends in strong punctuation, and so the tag should end in a full stop, not a comma.

>(“This is because you can’t lay off the shakes!”) Bon Bon accused, [“You’re getting fat in the flank!”]
does "bonbon accused" apply to what i put in () or []? it's ambiguous.given the context it's both obviously but could get weird in another context.
This one's ambiguous, as it's not clear whether the tag is attached to the first section of dialogue or the second, but it's worth noting (though it doesn't count against you, as it isn't wrong, exactly).

>“It’s summer.” Hissed Bon Bon.
he's saying remove the period in the "".
Dialogue with an attribution tag following it should end in... not a full stop. Almost anything but a full stop, in fact. At the same time, the tag should begin with a lowercase letter when it follows the dialogue it's attached to.
there.
the rules for dialogue are inane and horribly inconsistent, even between the US and UK.

Okay... I think I'm starting to understand. I really understand the inane and inconsistent bit!

Can I convince you to do this for the entire story (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies)? I'll offer you a drawrequeeeeesstt~

[Beacon of Chaos]

Done (http://my.deviantart.com/messages/#/d565vdk).

Nice pics! My envy levels threaten to reach critical mass.
Thanks! I do like that comic. Nice to see young macho pony! :smalltongue:


*Tulpas stuff*
...

I quoted this wanting to say something, but with no idea what. The idea behind having other personalities in one's head is not new, but the idea that you can just... make them, especially accidently, is rather... disturbing to me. My head is a private place, I certainly wouldn't want to share it.

On the other hand, you get to hang out with Twilight and Pinkie. I'm kinda jealous. Kinda.

It's still weird.

Sorry.


No, I'm just bitter because I've been assaulted by geese.
Ouch. Those things are vicious.


Yep! We had actually only met them when we first got in. They happened to be at the restaurant again later. They're pretty swell chaps.
Are they notable in the community for anything? At least one of those names sounds familiar.


Me too, oddly. Except the tea. Can't stand the stuff, don't know why.
It's an aquired taste, I guess.


Hm. That is odd. What kind of card? I've found most cards have easy adapters in USB form, for around £15.
Not a clue. :smallredface:


See, I don't understand this. Perhaps it's my violent reputation, but I don't get people willing to make fun of me - I like the more subdued pictures because they're tasteful. I am me, I am I; none other can tell me what to do. I refrain from being all PONY! Everywhere because its not always relevant, and my friends have asked me politely to tone it down. But that's it.
I've had people insulting and bullying me as long as I can remember. Perhaps it wouldn't have stuck if I was violent about it. Then again, I'm not exactly tough.


Oh, it could have been worse. You should have seen what Vorpal was doing to Luna!
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002651329/57207182_George_Takei_oh_my_xlarge.jpeg


Now that I've had time to think about it, I see it a bit differently. It's like... Gaming. The players came up with a good idea. The GM thinks we're all crazy, but it is a good idea, so she's Rollin with it. I think that level of feedback and such is why this fandom grew. It's the 4e principle of "say yes".
That's a great way to think about it actually. I like it!


Apple Corp made me smile, and then rage. Unless "Planned Obsolescence" came from a designer the size of Big Macintosh, I'm gonna buck him in the chops!
Planned Obsolescence of apples? They do go bad, but I don't think that's planned. :smalltongue:

Bear in mind that I wasn't making a joke about the actual Apple company or anything. I just felt that Apple Corp was a clever name.


Well, strangers have the anonymity thing going. The Internet is like a sniper's laser. It's your face forever attached to your name in the Signal. You can't stop the Signal.
Well, now I feel rather uncomfortable putting my picture online. :smalleek:


This frightens me. Should I be frightened? Because I am.
Frightened? Nah, it's not that bad. Just kinda gross.


What? Creepy? I'm not creepy :D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Sadly, I am at work and cannot watch videos. Which is a shame because I'm sure that I really want to see this.


"suddenly, Vorpalbob" was perhaps the funniest thing I've experienced all day. Thanks~
It was pretty funny at the time too. :smallbiggrin:


I feel terribly left out for missing this.
Oh well. Next year I'll stalk the people in fur suits. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
:smallbiggrin:


http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/951891f4.jpg

It's actually teak, ivory and garnets to bring out her eyes.
Dem pony eyes.
Well, I did think of doing this, with my character trying to explain that we're all equal while sitting atop a huge throne... but I cannot possibly argue with this.


And, I think I found our official image:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/337/e/9/dungeons_and_ponies_by_solanumepidemic-d4i1y26.jpg
Poor Apple Bloom. Ponies! Y U NO LET APPLE BLOOM PLAY?


I... I don't even... So much jelly... ;___;
There, there. *hugs* I'm totally jelly of the others who got to go to the meet and greet. All I did was say "I love the show! Can I get a picture?"


Which reminds me... anypony here going to B.U.C.K? I'm kind of tempted to buy tickets, but not quite sure yet.
I'm tempted too, but I've spent so much money on Bronycon. If there's a group of us going, maybe.

[thubby]

Okay... I think I'm starting to understand. I really understand the inane and inconsistent bit!

Can I convince you to do this for the entire story (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies)? I'll offer you a drawrequeeeeesstt~

i guess. PM me the notes they gave you so far (it helps to know what they're harping on). i should get through it by tomorrow.

[SlyGuyMcFly]

That's a great way to think about it actually. I like it!

Second. It's a great analogy.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

I can take the one about us each having our own elements. It will probably involve a description of several bronies, plus Luka. Then, EXPLOSIONS!

What's more, I'll actually finish what I claim, because I have a ton of spare time tomorrow.


Speaking of thread elements...
How taken are the elements of multiple personalities/Tulpas or Console/Command Prompt?



Also, found this while searching for source material. Creepy.
http://e621.net/data/a5/03/a503ea293f26adfd36db9982350e43a1.png?1320373751

I couldn't see the image so I relinked it:
http://e621.net/data/a5/03/a503ea293f26adfd36db9982350e43a1.png


Sanity is a construct use to convey whether you can function and participate in society.
More specifically, this is a relatively common occurrence. I always just let them switch driver's seats. It's part of why I don't have a clear self identity. We've sort of blurred and rule by consensus.


Interesting, as far as I understood, my fiancee's mind used to work like that with only three existing main personas who ruled on majority vote.



Ahaha. Careful, careful! You tread to close to the edge, and if you fall off then all will see the stage! The props revealed for what they are, cardboard and string, and yet still you take flight? Madness.

More intelligibly, specific religion stuff is a board no-no. Saying you are Wiccan is one thing, beginning to discuss a possible spell or such, which you almost did jokingly, is too far. Not everyone believes 'power' exists, and that's not a discussion that can go long without touching on Religion in a big way.


I still need to have that talk with Pinkie...

And sorry, I was never trying to thread even closely to touching religion stuff, the comment just happened. Never gonna bring it up again. Sorry


I quoted this wanting to say something, but with no idea what. The idea behind having other personalities in one's head is not new, but the idea that you can just... make them, especially accidently, is rather... disturbing to me. My head is a private place, I certainly wouldn't want to share it.

On the other hand, you get to hang out with Twilight and Pinkie. I'm kinda jealous. Kinda.

It's still weird.

Sorry.
Don't worry. It's weird, I know that. Specially since after yesterday they went to a private party at Rarity's (I wasn't invited!) and I know that they were talking about me...
Everything seems fine today, tough they had trouble awakening today, apparently mental constructs can get tired for partying hard and staying up late.


http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png
Cue the recent conversation...



the rules for dialogue are inane and horribly inconsistent, even between the US and UK.

And this kills any interest on ever writing some fanfiction.

Oh Blastech, how are you faring with the tumblr post? I'm excited to see it finished.

[Anarion]

There is really only one logical response to this.

ALL HAIL PHOE, QUEEN OF THE PLAYGROUND PONE.

*gives tribute of rope*

This would work pretty well, yes. Also Amish, I'm leaving for Japan today and I will find you at some point (in a non-stalker way).


So I just met an Equestria Daily prereader in a professional capacity for the first time. He had some interesting comments:

>“I’m fine!” said Bon Bon, “I

The attribution tag is attached to the first part of the dialogue, which terminated in strong punctuation. This in itself is fine, but the tag should end in a full stop as a result, not a comma.

>“It already is!” She said

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“Which way to the bathroom?” She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

>“You didn’t – you didn’t – “ Bon Bon frothed briefly, “I’m breaking you into

I'll leave aside en dashes and spaces as a style difference, but the action in the middle is not an attribution tag, and it should have a full stop instead of a comma.

>“Just get in here!” She cried desperately.

Same as before. Attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.

>“You’re stuck!” said Bon Bon, mind reeling with the horror of it, “Security could

As before, the tag is attached to dialogue that ends in strong punctuation, and so the tag should end in a full stop, not a comma.

>“This is because you can’t lay off the shakes!” Bon Bon accused, “You’re getting fat in the flank!”

This one's ambiguous, as it's not clear whether the tag is attached to the first section of dialogue or the second, but it's worth noting (though it doesn't count against you, as it isn't wrong, exactly).

>“It’s summer.” Hissed Bon Bon.

Dialogue with an attribution tag following it should end in... not a full stop. Almost anything but a full stop, in fact. At the same time, the tag should begin with a lowercase letter when it follows the dialogue it's attached to.

And all this left one burning question in my mind.

What the buck is an attribution tag?

In all my years of schooling and four years of a university creative writing degree I have never heard the term 'attribution tag' before in my life. I'm not sure if this is a hole in my education or just a thing that doesn't happen in Australia.

Could somepony here explain it to me in words I can comprehend? And better, could somepony with an eye for it scan my story (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies)for misuses? If this is something I'm apparently doing wrong all the time I'd really like to know about it and fix it.


You know, I've never heard the term attribution tag, but what he's actually correcting is your use of run on sentences. "'blah blah blah' said X" is a complete sentence, so comma splicing it to another set of dialogue makes a run on most of the time.

[Gamerlord]

So, uh, anyone care to explain what the buck Rainbow Dash is doing on the front cover of a magazine for a Pokemon game? (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B008DCUEZ8/)

[thubby]

So, uh, anyone care to explain what the buck Rainbow Dash is doing on the front cover of a magazine for a Pokemon game? (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B008DCUEZ8/)

besides being adorable?

[Nameless]

wish i could put my ponies out on desk like that...but i would never find them again as any small loose thing like that gets "hunted" by my cat
seriously cannot leave a bottlecap on desk to input code later for 5 minutes before it is gone...don't know how many pens have gone missing

Shame. I guess I'm lucky my cat's too lazy to even bother. xP



There, there. *hugs* I'm totally jelly of the others who got to go to the meet and greet. All I did was say "I love the show! Can I get a picture?"


Bronycon is one of those things I really wanna go to, but probably never will. I watched a bunch of videos on Youtube and looked through photos, it looked amazing.
I'm hoping some kind of con will pop up closer to home.

[Tiki Snakes]

So, uh, anyone care to explain what the buck Rainbow Dash is doing on the front cover of a magazine for a Pokemon game? (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B008DCUEZ8/)

Perhaps using the guide will enable you to catch all the pokemon...
In 10 seconds flat?

[Alabenson]

So, uh, anyone care to explain what the buck Rainbow Dash is doing on the front cover of a magazine for a Pokemon game? (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B008DCUEZ8/)

I simply take this as further evidence that ponies are slowly taking over the world.

[Jothki]

I don't think the other image is a Pokemon either.

Perhaps they're Pokemonifying other pieces of media?

[Lord Raziere]

Perhaps using the guide will enable you to catch all the pokemon...
In 10 seconds flat?

Ponies look like anime animation.

Ponies are cute, cuddly and a little small.

Pokemon has made horse types of pokemon before.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made a rainbow dash pokemon official, I'd definitely catch that kind of pokemon.

[Siosilvar]

http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png

I have this drawn, and my little 20-minute sketch came out a hell of a lot better than it has any reason to with my artistic talent. To the scanner and onwards to the GIMP!

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Well certainly this is not the first time we have seen this, right?

http://img.ponibooru.org/images/47/472ee1b7de4ef026932e041bdf3953fd
http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/f2e0784922ab90213b92ba00bae685a1/1152%20-%20angry%20fire%20parody%20pokemon%20ponyta%20Rapi dash%20twilight_sparkle.png

Maybe they are trying to get back at ponies?


Ponies look like anime animation.

Ponies are cute, cuddly and a little small.

Pokemon has made horse types of pokemon before.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made a rainbow dash pokemon official, I'd definitely catch that kind of pokemon.

Interesting, but if they made a Fluttershy one, it would be uncatchable... no one would dare to attack her.

[Forum Explorer]

Ponies look like anime animation.

Ponies are cute, cuddly and a little small.

Pokemon has made horse types of pokemon before.

I wouldn't be surprised if they made a rainbow dash pokemon official, I'd definitely catch that kind of pokemon.

Or made it as a shiny skin. Which would be pretty awesome to just find.

Also I'm thinking of trying out X-Com. Which one should I get, or should I bite the bullet and get all of them? Also it is a good game right?

[Topaz]

Bully! Do you have any recommendations for a good d6 game, good miss Topaz?

Wait, a good game using the D6 rules or just a good game using d6s?

I must admit here that unlike my more gifted compatriots I'm not one of those gamers who can look at a rules set and immediately envision all the implications; I have to play with it a while.

In evaluating an MLP game my thought process is likely to meander in this fashion:

1) Is this an actual game, or is it one of those Make **** Up things? Because I can Make **** Up without having to bother with some piece of crap that hasn't even been properly play-tested.

2) How stupid is it to run an earth pony in this game?

3) Is unicorn magic handled in a way that looks enough like the show that I can use it without wondering why I bothered to use an MLP game instead of just writing my own guidelines for some toolkit game like M&M or BESM?

4) Is there any potential for non-pony PCs? Because the odds of my getting to run a pony game with my group are already miniscule, and if I can't at least make griffon PCs available they drop to near zero.

-- for what it's worth.

[INoKnowNames]

The last time I was here, we were on Page 3....

... and the magnitude of the number of posts and threads you guys go through daily and weekly/monthly respectively just hit me.

Christ!

[Gamerlord]

Also I'm thinking of trying out X-Com. Which one should I get, or should I bite the bullet and get all of them? Also it is a good game right?
You should probably grab the first one, well, first. Personally, I'm a big fan of Apocalypse as well, but I'm not entirely certain it runs very well on more modern Operating Systems, my version won't run on Windows 7 without getting some freaky color issues. Avoid Terror From The Deep at first, but give it a try post-UFO Defense. Also, avoid Enforcer and Interceptor unless you're really curious. If you want all of them at once though, I'm pretty certain you can find a collection of all five on Steam or Amazon.

As for your second question, yes, Apocalypse and UFO Defense are both great games. Terror From The Deep is basically a slightly modified clone of UFO Defense except with the difficulty taken to insane levels, and Enforcer and Interceptor never happened. Do be warned that the original and TFTD have terrible combat interfaces, so find some sort of manual on the interwebs first so you know which buttons do what. Also, you should know that the Big Three as a whole are quite difficult, something the series is (in)famous for. Although they become somewhat easier once you get access to the game-breaking psychic powers.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Also I'm thinking of trying out X-Com. Which one should I get, or should I bite the bullet and get all of them? Also it is a good game right?

There is a *ejem*torr-ent*ejem* out there that has all the games.
Start downloading it.
Configure the download just to get Enemy Unknown, once its finished let it download the rest.
Read a little on how to play.
Enjoy one of the best games ever. (Seriously for that era the game has an incredible depth to it).

[Strife Warzeal]

Balmas For you OC information, the picture is the seapony right? Or is there a picture you'd rather have.

Bleakbane (that's spelled correctly, right?) since I can imagine you'll be mentioned, by someone whether an asker in an answer, would you like an entry on the cast page.
Since it's been mentioned, BlasTech too.

Thanqol, Do you have a picture for Charger, preferably without a background.

Rebel Hero, can you get some pictures of your other two OCs with cutie marks in place?

Zigg'rrauglurr (thank god I have a copy-paste of that saved) does your OC share names too?

Beyond these small notes, the Cast page is up. If you were on that OC list thingy, you're on it.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Zigg'rrauglurr (thank god I have a copy-paste of that saved) does your OC share names too?

My OC/Ponysona is called Magnus (for the sake of pony tongues everywhere). I don't have a last name yet, although I take suggestions.
Somewhat in topic, I repeat the question are the elements of Console/Command Prompt or Tulpa/Multiple personalities taken? If one is free I would like to claim said element.
Also you can shorten Zigg'rrauglurr to Ziggie, I have always done that.

[Raz_Fox]

This is a funny thing:

When I'm writing a short story for a serious anthology contest, it takes me weeks, it's like drawing blood and then much later like making wonders, and at the end of it I've only got nearly four thousand words.

When I'm writing a story about the royal sisters, it takes me three days to get to the same point, and yet it still felt like both drawing blood and making wonder.

[Alabenson]

http://i.imgur.com/ZUeHr.png

42!

...I don't get it.
Look, it's not my fault you've never finished reading Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

[Siosilvar]

Tumblr submission:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/siosilvar/remixed/pony/ponysanity.jpg

EDIT: Starting to think I shouldn't have colored it. The pencil drawing looks a lot better, probably because it's got thicker lines that make it look like it's vaguely a pony...

[Luka]

I can take the one about us each having our own elements. It will probably involve a description of several bronies, plus Luka. Then, EXPLOSIONS!

....You're including me as one or as exception (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MyFriendsAndZoidberg)? though if you want you can add me in it :smallbiggrin:

[maximus25]

So, I (Probably foolishly) think it's time to submit Show and Spell to EQD. I'm at the point where I need to pick the five best words to describe my story, and I'm stuck...


It's probably not ready if I can't think up five words to describe it, right? What do you guys think, should I add more chapters before I try to submit? What words would you use to describe it?

[Tvtyrant]

So, I (Probably foolishly) think it's time to submit Show and Spell to EQD. I'm at the point where I need to pick the five best words to describe my story, and I'm stuck...


It's probably not ready if I can't think up five words to describe it, right? What do you guys think, should I add more chapters before I try to submit? What words would you use to describe it?

Trixie learns a lesson? A life lived for others? I do not know.

[SiuiS]

Lix: been meanin to say I love the new avvy. But every time I quote you I forget by the time I get down the line! *huggles*



wish i could put my ponies out on desk like that...but i would never find them again as any small loose thing like that gets "hunted" by my cat
seriously cannot leave a bottlecap on desk to input code later for 5 minutes before it is gone...don't know how many pens have gone missing

Yeah. Vicious wee brutes they are! They're durn lucky they're ate so cuddlicious.


So I just met an Equestria Daily prereader in a professional capacity for the first time. He had some interesting comments:

>“I’m fine!” said Bon Bon, “I*

The attribution tag is attached to the first part of the dialogue, which terminated in strong punctuation. This in itself is fine, but the tag should end in a full stop as a result, not a comma.

>“It already is!” She said*

Dialogue attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.*

>“Which way to the bathroom?” She said,

Same deal as the previous note.

>“You didn’t – you didn’t – “ Bon Bon frothed briefly, “I’m breaking you into

I'll leave aside en dashes and spaces as a style difference, but the action in the middle is not an attribution tag, and it should have a full stop instead of a comma.*

>“Just get in here!” She cried desperately.

Same as before. Attribution tags following the dialogue that they're attached to should begin with a lowercase letter.*

>“You’re stuck!” said Bon Bon, mind reeling with the horror of it, “Security could

As before, the tag is attached to dialogue that ends in strong punctuation, and so the tag should end in a full stop, not a comma.

>“This is because you can’t lay off the shakes!” Bon Bon accused, “You’re getting fat in the flank!”

This one's ambiguous, as it's not clear whether the tag is attached to the first section of dialogue or the second, but it's worth noting (though it doesn't count against you, as it isn't wrong, exactly).

>“It’s summer.” Hissed Bon Bon.

Dialogue with an attribution tag following it should end in... not a full stop. Almost anything but a full stop, in fact. At the same time, the tag should begin with a lowercase letter when it follows the dialogue it's attached to.

And all this left one burning question in my mind.

What the buck is an attribution tag?

In all my years of schooling and four years of a university creative writing degree I have never heard the term 'attribution tag' before in my life. I'm not sure if this is a hole in my education or just a thing that doesn't happen in Australia.*

Could somepony here explain it to me in words I can comprehend? And better, could somepony with an eye for it scan my story (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies)for misuses? If this is something I'm apparently doing wrong all the time I'd really like to know about it and fix it.

Fascinating.
Okay, so an attribution tag seems to be as was said, a descriptor which attributes prior speech to an individual.

How it works, is that (apparently) the attribution tag itself is part of the previous dialogue as far as sentence structure goes. So
"blalalalala, y'know?" she said
Is one sentence. Since its one sentence, there shouldn't be any random capitalization in the middle. And adding more dialogue via a comma is splicing sentences (even though it's a commonly used bit).

However, even after crashing through as much grammar stuff as I could in high school, given that 90% Of my class couldn't differentiate between a noun and a verb, I have never before come across such a term.

Mostly I'm elated because I've down the last month wondering what the rules were for capitalizing after dialogue, and whether a period or comma should follow. I know now! Yay!


Yeah, this much I've gathered, but what are the rules for how they work?

Arcane, apparently.


...

I quoted this wanting to say something, but with no idea what. The idea behind having other personalities in one's head is not new, but the idea that you can just... make them, especially accidently, is rather... disturbing to me. My head is a private place, I certainly wouldn't want to share it.

It's understandably a creepy thing. If it helps, consider your mind (the full thing, brain and all) as you, and your personality is the main OS. It's possible to run little programs like NPCs, stories, fake memories, etc., and it's also possible to have alternate OSs lying around, sort of tabbed over and running their own processes. Up until they go viral, Reboot! Style, they're still "you" as you're defined by hardware, not software.



Ouch. Those things are vicious.


And I would swear they have teeth.


Are they notable in the community for anything? At least one of those names sounds familiar.

Well, I can't do the story justice at all. But from memory;
Metacritter originally won a small auction for Faust's Twilight Sparkle sketch. Before any turnaround, he called the seller and said "hey, can I turn this in or auction again, and use the proceeds for charity?"
The seller agreed, and they contacted Lauren. By the time the auction went live, she had added in two additional sketches - and drew a Derpy Hooves just for the auction.
I believe they pulled in like, 17k. I also know at least one of the auction winners did the same thing, re-selling the piece or charity.


It's an aquired taste, I guess.

Probably.

Speaking of acquired tastes, I've got a heapin' hankerin' for some cider! Sweet Sisters that stuff was GOOD.



Not a clue. :smallredface:


Hm. *Okie doke, we can help. What does the card look like? Dimensions, plug, etc.


I've had people insulting and bullying me as long as I can remember. Perhaps it wouldn't have stuck if I was violent about it. Then again, I'm not exactly tough.

Me, too. It's easy; I'm skinny and cerebral. It's an attitude thing I suppose. In which case is say just let it roll off you like water from a duck. The personal changes needed to he people to leave you alone are easiest to acquire by becoming someone you don't want to.



Planned Obsolescence of apples? They do go bad, but I don't think that's planned. :smalltongue:

Bear in mind that I wasn't making a joke about the actual Apple company or anything. I just felt that Apple Corp was a clever name.


Aha. Here I thought apple corps was a typo. I agree, that pretty neat.

I suppose the Apple Corps is the Ponyville NationalRegional Guard, then.


-

OH! THANQOL!
Before I forget again, you think Shining Armor for the guard captain in the Guardalopolis comic?

-



Well, now I feel rather uncomfortable putting my picture online. :smalleek:

Sorry >.<


Frightened? Nah, it's not that bad. Just kinda gross.

Ugh. Yeah. I... Glegh.
Wow.



Sadly, I am at work and cannot watch videos. Which is a shame because I'm sure that I really want to see this.

I suppose you'd find it enlightening at least~



It was pretty funny at the time too. :smallbiggrin:


Vbob was pretty swell, all thiga considered.



Well, I did think of doing this, with my character trying to explain that we're all equal while sitting atop a huge throne... but I cannot possibly argue with this.

Oh no, go ahead. I just had this lying around. If you want to do an actual tumblr post, go ahead!



Poor Apple Bloom. Ponies! Y U NO LET APPLE BLOOM PLAY?

I'm with them on this one. Adding in the younger sibling just because never goes well. it's like the Girlfriend, only more likely to be disruptive instead of distracting.


There, there. *hugs* I'm totally jelly of the others who got to go to the meet and greet. All I did was say "I love the show! Can I get a picture?"

You know how it is. On the other side of the fence is where the green grass grows.



I'm tempted too, but I've spent so much money on Bronycon. If there's a group of us going, maybe.

Hey! Just because it didn't work for me doesn't mean it won't work!

Network!

Figure out schedules. Carpool. Split costs. Make a road trip of it.


Second. It's a great analogy.

Thanks. I found it revelatory myself.


Speaking of thread elements...
How taken are the elements of multiple personalities/Tulpas or Console/Command Prompt?


Pretty sure that's available. We've got some pretty odd elements... I'll try and get Grif to post the list.


I couldn't see the image so I relinked it:
http://e621.net/data/a5/03/a503ea293f26adfd36db9982350e43a1.png

I still can't see it, so I'll re-upload it.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/examples/303cbe54.jpg


Interesting, as far as I understood, my fiancee's mind used to work like that with only three existing main personas who ruled on majority vote.

Interesting. Alway enjoy looking into this sort of thing.



And sorry, I was never trying to thread even closely to touching religion stuff, the comment just happened. Never gonna bring it up again. Sorry

No worries. I've just had several threads I frequent closed for about the same level o tangent. I'm paranoid (0_0)



And this kills any interest on ever writing some fanfiction.

Don't be like that. Note that Thanqol, Raz_Fox and PhoeKun are all working towards being professional writers, making a living thereby. You don't need to worry unless you want the story spread across the universe; but the key is to write for fun.


So, uh, anyone care to explain what the buck Rainbow Dash is doing on the front cover of a magazine for a Pokemon game? (http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B008DCUEZ8/)

Networking.



Bronycon is one of those things I really wanna go to, but probably never will. I watched a bunch of videos on Youtube and looked through photos, it looked amazing.*
I'm hoping some kind of con will pop up closer to home.

I dunno. I think we could raise the money to supplement several UK bronies comin' over. It would require a concerted effort though.


Wait, a good game using the D6 rules or just a good game using d6s?

Oh, sorry. I was going for Mostly d6 based system. A lot of them are based off existing game engines, and I know you're our go-to games mare.
Technically, D&D would use d6s, but not predominantly.

Although I suppose the problem is I don't even know how to run a game for ponies. I'm apparently too dark-tinted and action packed.

[auote]I must admit here that unlike my more gifted compatriots I'm not one of those gamers who can look at a rules set and immediately envision all the implications; I have to play with it a while.

In evaluating an MLP game my thought process is likely to meander in this fashion:

1) Is this an actual game, or is it one of those Make **** Up things? Because I can Make **** Up without having to bother with some piece of crap that hasn't even been properly play-tested.

2) How stupid is it to run an earth pony in this game?

3) Is unicorn magic handled in a way that looks enough like the show that I can use it without wondering why I bothered to use an MLP game instead of just writing my own guidelines for some toolkit game like M&M or BESM?

4) Is there any potential for non-pony PCs? Because the odds of my getting to run a pony game with my group are already miniscule, and if I can't at least make griffon PCs available they drop to near zero.

-- for what it's worth.[/QUOTE]

Hmmmm. #4 is definitely something I've been looking at, with a side of #2. I think I might try for a Pony Tales game in the near future. I remember Second Hand being an earth pony, and basically being a Beast, Big McIntosh style.

#1, I'm no quite sure to what extent you mean. #3, well, that's probably really important and I've just never looked ^.^"


Tumblr submission:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/siosilvar/remixed/pony/ponysanity.jpg

Beautiful!

[INoKnowNames]

....You're including me as one or as exception (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MyFriendsAndZoidberg)? though if you want you can add me in it :smallbiggrin:

.......

Now I'm not sure. Maybe you aren't trolling everyone. Maybe this comment is just you saving face. Or maybe, your dynamic with the group is just yet another way for all you people to mind **** the rest of us on-lookers...

I think it's the latter. You're all insane.

[MCerberus]

.......

Now I'm not sure. Maybe you aren't trolling everyone. Maybe this comment is just you saving face. Or maybe, your dynamic with the group is just yet another way for all you people to mind **** the rest of us on-lookers...

I think it's the latter. You're all insane.

Not traditional insanity mind you, we're ponysane.

[Siosilvar]

Beautiful!

I prefer "Close enough." :smalltongue:


As for dialog[ue] rules, US English uses the following as standard:

"Words," Name said. "More words."
Outside of the US, I imagine that the only difference is moving the comma outside of the quotes like so:

"Words", Name said. "More words."
Fancier stuff:

"Words?" asked Name. "More words!"
Name said, "This quote is going
"to spill over onto two lines."
But it's never either of

"Words," said Name, "More words."
"Words." said Name.

All if I recall correctly, of course. I think the last time I went over these was two years ago or thereabouts.

[INoKnowNames]

Not traditional insanity mind you, we're ponysane.

Ponysane. What is that. What even is that?

... what does that even mean? Are you sane about Ponies? Sane only with Ponies? Insane but Pony themed? Insane about Ponies?

It's not in my dictionary! And Google tells me nothing! Infact, it links me back to here! YOU DON'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITH ITSELF!

[MCerberus]

Ponysane. What is that. What even is that?

... what does that even mean? Are you sane about Ponies? Sane only with Ponies? Insane but Pony themed? Insane about Ponies?

It's not in my dictionary! And Google tells me nothing! Infact, it links me back to here! YOU DON'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITH ITSELF!

You begin to grasp what should never be known.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s168/murderouseagle/ponymote/warnrecurse.png

[INoKnowNames]

You begin to grasp what should never be known.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s168/murderouseagle/ponymote/warnrecurse.png

.... or just, you know, sorta wonder wtf...

[Luka]

.......

Now I'm not sure. Maybe you aren't trolling everyone. Maybe this comment is just you saving face. Or maybe, your dynamic with the group is just yet another way for all you people to mind **** the rest of us on-lookers...

I think it's the latter. You're all insane.

Just saying they could add me if they wanted, nothing to do with trolling/saving/dynamic, don't think too much....

And I already know I'm insane that's nothing new.

[INoKnowNames]

Just saying they could add me if they wanted, nothing to do with trolling/saving/dynamic, don't think too much....

But thinking is the only thing that verifies that I'm -NOT- crazy! And I know I'm not crazy!

Still, coulda sworn we had a small discussion about you being in denial/not being a brony. The statement that prompted the response that you quoted just plain confuses me.

Or did I miss somewhere in the 7 pages since I was last here where you came out of the stable, so to speak?

[Tvtyrant]

I think it's the latter. You're all insane.
What are you talking about? Clearly the rest of the world is insane, and we are the sane ones. I mean, look who runs the place.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_o1da9C4_bk/T9FLL8q7ufI/AAAAAAAAsmY/TWwXbdEgGWI/s1600/182004+-+artist+Anadu+at+chaos+Discord+giant+god+his+Kune+ planet+touch.jpg

I'll stay here where it is safe, thanks.

[INoKnowNames]

What are you talking about? Clearly the rest of the world is insane, and we are the sane ones. I mean, look who runs the place.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_o1da9C4_bk/T9FLL8q7ufI/AAAAAAAAsmY/TWwXbdEgGWI/s1600/182004+-+artist+Anadu+at+chaos+Discord+giant+god+his+Kune+ planet+touch.jpg

I'll stay here where it is safe, thanks.

Should I know who that is?

[Tvtyrant]

Should I know who that is?

Well, maybe one day. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvSdQyK10vo&feature=related)

He's pretty awesome, in an extremely cruel way.

[Topaz]

#1, I'm no quite sure to what extent you mean.

I'm mostly hating on the games that boil down to "describe your character, and then, like, roll some dice, man." except they take fifty pages to say it, and they provide no clues as to what a reasonable description is in terms of either detail or power level. Screw that.

[Luka]

Still, coulda sworn we had a small discussion about you being in denial/not being a brony. The statement that prompted the response that you quoted just plain confuses me.

Or did I miss somewhere in the 7 pages since I was last here where you came out of the stable, so to speak?

Oh well, I just said he could, nothing else
And dude, really, I'm not a brony, already said, and not a denial, it's true.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

*Takes pity on INoKnowNames.

<ejem> As one of the mostly (traditionally) sane in this thread. I mean. I have just two Tulpas/ThoughtForms/MindConstructs with me.
TS: Hello.
PP: Hi! My name is Pinkie Pie! What's your name? I mean YouNoKnowNames, but you know your name? I mean you obviously know your name, Duh! But I mean your reaaaal name. Can we know it? Can we pretty please?
TS: PINKIE!.
<EJEM> As I was saying, as one of the sanest individuals here. I will try to elucidate this situation.


Ponysane. What is that. What even is that?

... what does that even mean? Are you sane about Ponies? Sane only with Ponies? Insane but Pony themed? Insane about Ponies?

It's not in my dictionary! And Google tells me nothing! Infact, it links me back to here! YOU DON'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITH ITSELF!

Ponysane. The closest definition to it, means that, we are... mostly sane by normal standards, but we can get pretty crazy in the PonyThread, and when it's related to Ponies or similar stuff. But we are not that close to "Cupcakes" level of crazy. Somewhat clearer?


.... or just, you know, sorta wonder wtf...

Yes, exactly.
Also:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/b2ae_recursion.jpg
http://twentypercentcooler.net/data/56/31/56314fe33474a4118f3768854f1c743a.gif?1313055061


But thinking is the only thing that verifies that I'm -NOT- crazy! And I know I'm not crazy!

One would think that. But One would also say that crazy people think, maybe not in the same manner that sane people does. Thinking only shows that you are sentient enough to think. It doesn't say anything about your craziness level.


Still, coulda sworn we had a small discussion about you being in denial/not being a brony. The statement that prompted the response that you quoted just plain confuses me.

Or did I miss somewhere in the 7 pages since I was last here where you came out of the stable, so to speak?
Well, yeah, you missed one interesting conversation on Tulpas, some answers being answered on the tumblr, and our writers fighting with byzantine language rules.
Buuuuuut, regarding your question, I'm pretty sure that Luka is speaking about being entered in the OC list in the tumblr, therefore being included in the Ponythread list as a non-brony (exception) or as a brony.


Should I know who that is?

Not yet. Until you reach the first 2 episodes of second season, lovable character, voiced by the actor of Q in StarTrek: The next generation. The fandom loves the character and the actor quite a bit.

[INoKnowNames]

Oh well, I just said he could, nothing else
And dude, really, I'm not a brony, already said, and not a denial, it's true.

riiight.mp4


*Takes pity on INoKnowNames.

I enjoy pity. Better than scorn.


<ejem> As one of the mostly (traditionally) sane in this thread. I mean. I have just two Tulpas/ThoughtForms/MindConstructs with me.

... what?


TS: Hello.
PP: Hi! My name is Pinkie Pie! What's your name? I mean You know names, but you know your name? I mean you obviously know your name, Duh! But I mean your reaaaal name. Can we know it? Can we pretty please?
TS: PINKIE!.

Ah?


<EJEM> As I was saying, as one of the sanest individuals here. I will try to elucidate this situation.

'kay? Too insecure to give my real name on the internet anyway.


Ponysane. The closest definition to it, means that, we are... mostly sane by normal standards, but we can get pretty crazy in the PonyThread, and when it's related to Ponies or similar stuff.

Oh, so just Insane about Ponies.


But we are not that close to "Cupcakes" level of crazy. Somewhat clearer?

Those people aren't insane. Those people are ****ed up. There's a difference between being tweaked in the head, and being so tweaked you make the tweaked people uncomfortable. I got to a part in the series when Pinkie Pie started singing about Cupcakes. I wasn't quite finished being disturbed yet, and started crying and convulsing...


Yes, exactly.
Also:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/b2ae_recursion.jpg
http://twentypercentcooler.net/data/56/31/56314fe33474a4118f3768854f1c743a.gif?1313055061

...


One would think that. But One would also say that crazy people think, maybe not in the same manner that sane people does. Thinking only shows that you are sentient enough to think. It doesn't say anything about your craziness level.

But if you think you are crazy, you aren't! Even if you'e 99.99% crazy, there's still .01% that is sane! And that's enough to avoid the White Jackets! And they are ichy! ... or so I assume.


Well, yeah, you missed one interesting conversation on Tulpas, some answers being answered on the tumblr, and our writers fighting with byzantine language rules.

For you guys, that sounds like a pretty casual day.


Buuuuuut, regarding your question, I'm pretty sure that Luka is speaking about being entered in the OC list in the tumblr, therefore being included in the Ponythread list as a non-brony (exception) or as a brony.

For a non-brony as adamant as he is when confronted, his nonchalantness in being added is... interesting.


Not yet. Until you reach the first 2 episodes of second season, lovable character, voiced by the actor of Q in StarTrek: The next generation. The fandom loves the character and the actor quite a bit.

I don't actually know StarTrek at all.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

riiight.mp4

Lol'd



I got to a part in the series when Pinkie Pie started singing about Cupcakes. I wasn't quite finished being disturbed yet, and started crying and convulsing...

You mean, watching the cartoon, the original series, the "Making cupcakes" song caused that reaction because of your exposure to the fanimation of cupcakes?

I'm truly sorry :smallfrown: and enraged :smallfurious:, more enraged about that people now...

...



But if you think you are crazy, you aren't! Even if you'e 99.99% crazy, there's still .01% that is sane! And that's enough to avoid the White Jackets! And they are ichy! ... or so I assume.

I think you need at least a 40% sanity to bypass the craziness radars. And if you are over a 10% crazy they can put the jacket on you, if they truly want to...




For a non-brony as adamant as he is when confronted, his nonchalantness in being added is... interesting.
Indeed.



I don't actually know StarTrek at all.
What!? DEATH TO THE INFIDEL!!! :smallbiggrin: hehe... ok. then just keep watching the series, and try to forget any unsavory parts, between the original series, the comics, and the safe animations, it's a really fun drive.
BTW, I recall you got into this because of Dr. Who/Dr.Whooves. right?
Have you seen the 2 first animations?

[Aotrs Commander]

Bleakbane (that's spelled correctly, right?) since I can imagine you'll be mentioned, by someone whether an asker in an answer, would you like an entry on the cast page.Beyond these small notes, the Cast page is up. If you were on that OC list thingy, you're on it.

I 'spose, I ought, at that.

I'll try and write something shortly-ish (and locate a link to the original of my current avatar, as that's as good a picture as any if needed). Might not be immediately, though, since I'm runnin' a game tomorrow (corrupting my young cousins from Austrailia with their first taste of D&D. After corrupting them with a headstart a couple of years back with Aotrs-version HeroQuest.)

Prod me if I don't remember and put something up in the next couple of days.



Incidently, those same cousins are part of the family Mum went to visit in January, y'know, when she ended up in hospital. Now they've come over here for a week or two. (They came up Thursday.) And my sister's fiance went into hospital yesterday to have his appendix out...

The mind boggles...

[INoKnowNames]

You mean, watching the cartoon original series, the cupcakes song caused that reaction because of your exposure to cupcakes?

Yeah, I was still feeling a bit sensitive...


I'm truly sorry :smallfrown: and enraged :smallfurious:, more enraged about that people now...

I'm an Action Series kinda guy. But I'm not completely close minded. I'm fine with scary stuff some times. Not my thing, but by itself, not really that bad to me, most of the time.

And while I'm not really a big fan of Cute stuff, I can appreciate the value in such things. Not everything has to be agressive and tough and cool, and it's not like such things and cuteness are mutually exclusive or anything.

But those two don't belong together... You don't mix Gore and Sugar. ... you just don't, man...


I think you need at least a 40% sanity to bypass the craziness radars.

The best part of being True Neutral is screwing over Paladins and Black Guards. :smallbiggrin:


And if you are over a 10% crazy they can put the jacket on you, if they truly want to...

To be fair, they can do that if you're under 10% but they still don't like you.


What!? DEATH TO THE INFIDEL!!! :smallbiggrin:

I suppose I'll put Startrek on the list of things I should consider burning some time with, then. Although it's -way- behind in my list of priorities.


hehe... ok. then just keep watching the series, and try to forget any unsavory parts, between the original series, the comics, and the safe animations, it's a really fun drive.

I'll probably have time to judge the episodes while I'm on vacation, actually.


BTW, I recall you got into this because of Dr. Who/Dr.Whooves. right?
Have you seen the 2 first animations?

I did not even consider My Little Pony over Dr. Who. I still need to check that out, too. I'm reviewing the series to decide what I think on it because there's a girl I know who likes it and that pretty much says everything right there.

[Thanqol]

i guess. PM me the notes they gave you so far (it helps to know what they're harping on). i should get through it by tomorrow.

Will do, thanks.


Thanqol, Do you have a picture for Charger, preferably without a background.

Not without a background. This (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/favourites/?offset=24#/d4qjldl)is all I really got; she's my least drawn OC.

[MCerberus]

I want to know though, who would be the ones causing an infinite OCrisis in ponythread? Lix? Pink Cult? One of the masks? Bleakbane and his benefactors? Return of the mighty Midnight? Siuis causing something of Flash-quality facepalming?


Seriously, the Flash screws up everything ever.

[Soras Teva Gee]

But thinking is the only thing that verifies that I'm -NOT- crazy! And I know I'm not crazy!

Still, coulda sworn we had a small discussion about you being in denial/not being a brony. The statement that prompted the response that you quoted just plain confuses me.

Or did I miss somewhere in the 7 pages since I was last here where you came out of the stable, so to speak?

Luka has been here a couple months now. He's advanced from not having seen an episode in completion to liking Luna (and her episode) and declaring Dashie best pony. (and some other episodes)

He's fallen he just doesn't want to admit it yet.

[Tiki Snakes]

Oh well, I just said he could, nothing else
And dude, really, I'm not a brony, already said, and not a denial, it's true.

Well, as I see the situation, you either like ponies and are in denial (which would explain why you only post in pony related threads), you don't like ponies and are just here for the attention or you are a Tulpa of one of the other posters who has been allowed to have their own login and is running amok.

Am I missing any obvious theories, guys?

Also, if anything is going to cause an infinate OC crisis, it'll be Mask pretending to be Thanqol pretending to (do something megalomaniacal) and the many deity level super-beings breaking the universe horrendously in their race to be the one who murders Thanqol*.

*They can't do any such thing, given that Thanqol is the entirely normal real world australian who has the OC's, rather than an OC.
Well, that's how it happened last time.

[Strife Warzeal]

My OC/Ponysona is called Magnus (for the sake of pony tongues everywhere). I don't have a last name yet, although I take suggestions.
Somewhat in topic, I repeat the question are the elements of Console/Command Prompt or Tulpa/Multiple personalities taken? If one is free I would like to claim said element.
Also you can shorten Zigg'rrauglurr to Ziggie, I have always done that.

Put him in as Magnus, and no one ever said ponies have 'last names' *points out fluttershy for example*

Tumblr submission:
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/siosilvar/remixed/pony/ponysanity.jpg

EDIT: Starting to think I shouldn't have colored it. The pencil drawing looks a lot better, probably because it's got thicker lines that make it look like it's vaguely a pony...
Seems good to me.

I 'spose, I ought, at that.

I'll try and write something shortly-ish (and locate a link to the original of my current avatar, as that's as good a picture as any if needed). Might not be immediately, though, since I'm runnin' a game tomorrow (corrupting my young cousins from Austrailia with their first taste of D&D. After corrupting them with a headstart a couple of years back with Aotrs-version HeroQuest.)

Prod me if I don't remember and put something up in the next couple of days.



Incidently, those same cousins are part of the family Mum went to visit in January, y'know, when she ended up in hospital. Now they've come over here for a week or two. (They came up Thursday.) And my sister's fiance went into hospital yesterday to have his appendix out...
The mind boggles...
I threw in a space-taker-upper, I think what I'm going to do is have what I've been doing for the cast page, but then have links to more filled posts where people can put darn near any amount of information.


Not without a background. This (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/favourites/?offset=24#/d4qjldl)is all I really got; she's my least drawn OC.

I cropped a picture out of that for space reasons, assuming things are fine for you, it works.

Freely answerable questions: Two new ones at the bottom.
http://i.imgur.com/zpwA2.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pp6Qz.png
http://i.imgur.com/H9VR6.png
http://i.imgur.com/aIhEo.png
http://i.imgur.com/pfTI7.png
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.png
http://i.imgur.com/5h77N.png
http://i.imgur.com/IJSt5.png
http://i.imgur.com/r5Jow.png
Also narcissism made me throw crossings onto the top of the list...

[INoKnowNames]

Luka has been here a couple months now. He's advanced from not having seen an episode in completion to liking Luna (and her episode) and declaring Dashie best pony. (and some other episodes)

He's fallen he just doesn't want to admit it yet.

I like how you use fallen for that status. I just find it hilarious.

If I get roped into the herd, I probably wouldn't be in denial about it myself. I'll admit, as much as I wasn't considering it, I have fully progressed from stage 2 to stage 3. Though I probably wouldn't ever go all the way to stage 6, even if converted. Enimimity is awesome.


Well, as I see the situation, you either like ponies and are in denial (which would explain why you only post in pony related threads), you don't like ponies and are just here for the attention or you are a Tulpa of one of the other posters who has been allowed to have their own login and is running amok.

Am I missing any obvious theories, guys?

Hm...


He could like ponies and be in denial...
He could like ponies and be sarcastic about it to express his devotion...
He could be indifferent and just enjoy the company of bronies...
He could have grown to dislike ponies but be stuck in previous habbits...
He could enjoy messing with people through his actions...
Or it's an inside joke, and an attack on those outlooking.


Also, what's a Tulpa?

[Bryn]

For the operators of the tumblr: Here (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12456893/Playground%20pony%20v19.svg)'s the SVG version of that playground pony. Everyone on the tumblr is welcome to edit it and use it in answers :smallsmile:

The avatar/icon thing could probably be given a better crop. [The easiest way to do that in Inkscape is to add a square, make it invisible (opacity to zero) and export 'selection'.]



Bronycon is one of those things I really wanna go to, but probably never will. I watched a bunch of videos on Youtube and looked through photos, it looked amazing.
I'm hoping some kind of con will pop up closer to home.
There's BUCK (http://www.bronyuk.org/) up in Manchester. I'm not sure yet what will happen there, but hopefully the programme will be released soon. Are any Playgrounders thinking of going?

[Tiki Snakes]

I like how you use fallen for that status. I just find it hilarious.

If I get roped into the herd, I probably wouldn't be in denial about it myself. I'll admit, as much as I wasn't considering it, I have fully progressed from stage 2 to stage 3. Though I probably wouldn't ever go all the way to stage 6, even if converted. Enimimity is awesome.

There are no such things as stages. You either like ponies, or you don't.



He could like ponies and be in denial...
He could like ponies and be sarcastic about it to express his devotion...
He could be indifferent and just enjoy the company of bronies...
He could have grown to dislike ponies but be stuck in previous habbits...
He could enjoy messing with people through his actions...
Or it's an inside joke, and an attack on those outlooking.


Also, what's a Tulpa?

*1 Covered. Likes ponies and is in denial.
*2 No, he's been posting for some time and this would be out of character.
*3 Given how frequently he complains about not liking anything in the show or understanding what we are talking about, I don't believe that really goes far enough to be a useful explanation. Close to covering the case of our Silver Dragon friend, though said dragon is basically a "Likes ponies but is in Denial" on account of not daring to watch the show because he knows he would enjoy it.
*4 No, Luka has been posting long enough for us to be sure this is not the case.
*5 Covered. Dislikes Ponies but seeks Attention.
*6 Seems interchangeable with *5

For what a Tulpa is, see Wikipedia and the last couple of pages of the thread.

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

Put him in as Magnus, and no one ever said ponies have 'last names' *points out fluttershy for example*

*shrugs* I feel that there is something missing in the name without a second part.



http://i.imgur.com/r5Jow.png

I need to know which OCs are female to risk drawing her with socks, a top hat and a monocle, saying: "Why not both".
Warning:Would be my first pony drawing ever, now that I found this (http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq40/happyturtle-avs/attachment.jpg)



Also, what's a Tulpa?

Page 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248361&page=10) of this very thread.

[BlasTech]

Bleakbane (that's spelled correctly, right?) since I can imagine you'll be mentioned, by someone whether an asker in an answer, would you like an entry on the cast page.
Since it's been mentioned, BlasTech too.


I'll type something up this afternoon.

Finished a first run at the "Where were you during the wedding debacle" question:



http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/188/2/1/ponythread_tumblr___1_by_btech-d56dyqh.jpg

What do I do now? :smallconfused:

[Soras Teva Gee]

I like how you use fallen for that status. I just find it hilarious.

If I get roped into the herd, I probably wouldn't be in denial about it myself. I'll admit, as much as I wasn't considering it, I have fully progressed from stage 2 to stage 3. Though I probably wouldn't ever go all the way to stage 6, even if converted. Enimimity is awesome.



WE ARE THE HERD.
LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR MEDIA DEVICES.
WE WILL ADD YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN
YOUR SOCIAL LIFE WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US.


http://groups.ultimate-guitar.com/profile_mojo_data/1/2/1/0/1210998/pics/_c978314_image_0.png

[Beacon of Chaos]

It's understandably a creepy thing. If it helps, consider your mind (the full thing, brain and all) as you, and your personality is the main OS. It's possible to run little programs like NPCs, stories, fake memories, etc., and it's also possible to have alternate OSs lying around, sort of tabbed over and running their own processes. Up until they go viral, Reboot! Style, they're still "you" as you're defined by hardware, not software.

No. That doesn't help at all. If anything I'm now even more uncomfortable. Is this... is this a normal thing for people? To have "NPCs" in their heads?

I'm sorry. I wanted to stay quiet on this but I can't. Am I the only one here genuinely worried here? Zigg has just told us that he has voices in his head and most people's resposes here are "Oh, that's neat". Is it just because it's ponies?

Zigg, I'm sorry, but the more I think about this, the more it actually scares me. You said you had one of these Tulpas before, and that it was "slightly dangerous". Dangerous in what way? If these things can be harmful do you really think keeping them is a good idea? I just read an account online of a woman who created one of these. It started off being friendly and then turned malicious down the line. Is this likely to happen here? They look and act like ponies now but...

I apologise if I'm being ignorant or insensitive; I'm just worried about you here.


Hm. *Okie doke, we can help. What does the card look like? Dimensions, plug, etc.
Oh, it's okay, my Dad's gonna get the cable I need tomorrow.


Me, too. It's easy; I'm skinny and cerebral. It's an attitude thing I suppose. In which case is say just let it roll off you like water from a duck. The personal changes needed to he people to leave you alone are easiest to acquire by becoming someone you don't want to.
I'm not sure I understand.


I suppose the Apple Corps is the Ponyville NationalRegional Guard, then.
Heh, I didn't think of that.


Ugh. Yeah. I... Glegh.
Wow.
Mmm-hmm.


I suppose you'd find it enlightening at least~
*watched video*

"Enlightening". Yeah... let's go with that. It was pretty funny though. :smalltongue:


Oh no, go ahead. I just had this lying around. If you want to do an actual tumblr post, go ahead!
Well, if I can get myself to actually work on my drawing, and decide on exactly what I want my OC to look like/act.


Hey! Just because it didn't work for me doesn't mean it won't work!

Network!

Figure out schedules. Carpool. Split costs. Make a road trip of it.
Hm. Maybe I will.

Yo, British thread ponies! Who's up for a con?


Okay, I'm going to bed now. Will respond in the morning.

[Strife Warzeal]

I'll type something up this afternoon.

Finished a first run at the "Where were you during the wedding debacle" question:



http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/188/2/1/ponythread_tumblr___1_by_btech-d56dyqh.jpg

What do I do now? :smallconfused:

You just did. (http://ask-ponythread.tumblr.com/post/26666487649)

Is there anything I need to do further with tags, do you guys think? I've just been throwing in the name of the artist and *art post*.

[INoKnowNames]

There are no such things as stages. You either like ponies, or you don't.

Is this just a theory? Or has it already become Pony Law?


*1 Covered. Likes ponies and is in denial.
*2 No, he's been posting for some time and this would be out of character.
*3 Given how frequently he complains about not liking anything in the show or understanding what we are talking about, I don't believe that really goes far enough to be a useful explanation. Close to covering the case of our Silver Dragon friend, though said dragon is basically a "Likes ponies but is in Denial" on account of not daring to watch the show because he knows he would enjoy it.
*4 No, Luka has been posting long enough for us to be sure this is not the case.
*5 Covered. Dislikes Ponies but seeks Attention.
*6 Seems interchangeable with *5

Well, the main difference between 5 and 6 is that 5 is just him punking people. 6 is you all punking newbies through him (at the very least, me). Otherwise, doesn't really matter to me. Just providing theories and making conversation. One thing you guys were completely right about is that this gruop isn't bad.


For what a Tulpa is, see Wikipedia and the last couple of pages of the thread.


Page 10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248361&page=10) of this very thread.

It took me a second, but I found it in thread, actually. Thanks. Though I might need to read more to understand exactly what is being talked about, what with the mentally creating things thing...



WE ARE THE HERD.
LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR MEDIA DEVICES.
WE WILL ADD YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN
YOUR SOCIAL LIFE WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US.


http://groups.ultimate-guitar.com/profile_mojo_data/1/2/1/0/1210998/pics/_c978314_image_0.png

You had -waaay- too much fun with that.

[Siosilvar]

Is there anything I need to do further with tags, do you guys think? I've just been throwing in the name of the artist and *art post*.

I think it's fine. Artist, characters involved if someone draws another's OC, and "art post" works. I'd appreciate it if you spelled my name right though. :smallwink:


You had -waaay- too much fun with that.

Some time ago. It seems to get posted about every other thread, at least for the last dozen or so.

[Kd7sov]

No. That doesn't help at all. If anything I'm now even more uncomfortable. Is this... is this a normal thing for people? To have "NPCs" in their heads?

I'm sorry. I wanted to stay quiet on this but I can't. Am I the only one here genuinely worried here? Zigg has just told us that he has voices in his head and most people's resposes here are "Oh, that's neat". Is it just because it's ponies?

In my case, at least, no, it's nothing to do with ponies. I first encountered the concept in late 2005, when I began to become involved in the Milliways Bar roleplaying community; the players, by and large, would speak and act as though their characters literally spoke to them. Much of it was and is hyperbole, but there's a grain of truth to the idea. I do have a consistent thought-structure that produces the opinions and responses of Fluttershy, as well as others for other characters, both imported and original. The most worrying thing about it is that some of them occasionally spawn off other-universe versions.

Have you ever heard an author mention changing their mind because the characters refused to go along with their original intention? Have you ever encountered an actor who specifically internalized their character, rather than simply memorizing lines and stage directions? Have you ever, for that matter, met someone who applied one of the "WW*D (What Would [person] Do?)" maxims very broadly?

Your worry is, I think, misplaced. It is my impression that most of the "hearing voices that aren't there" fears are fears of schizophrenia, which in my admittedly inexpert opinion is not at all what Zigg, I, and others have been describing. I admit that Zigg's experiences are considerably stronger and more thorough than any I've encountered before, but it doesn't seem worrisome unless he starts letting them take over.

[MCerberus]

http://i.imgur.com/IJSt5.png
dibs on that

[Zigg'rrauglurr]

No. That doesn't help at all. If anything I'm now even more uncomfortable. Is this... is this a normal thing for people? To have "NPCs" in their heads?

I'm sorry. I wanted to stay quiet on this but I can't. Am I the only one here genuinely worried here? Zigg has just told us that he has voices in his head and most people's resposes here are "Oh, that's neat". Is it just because it's ponies?

Zigg, I'm sorry, but the more I think about this, the more it actually scares me. You said you had one of these Tulpas before, and that it was "slightly dangerous". Dangerous in what way? If these things can be harmful do you really think keeping them is a good idea? I just read an account online of a woman who created one of these. It started off being friendly and then turned malicious down the line. Is this likely to happen here? They look and act like ponies now but...

I apologise if I'm being ignorant or insensitive; I'm just worried about you here.


Diego,
First, I want to leave your fears to rest, as best as I can.
The two first questions: is this a normal thing for people? To have "NPCs" in their heads?
Answer: For some people, yes.
Many writers, gamemasters, creative people have ... mental constructs ... with their own morals, beliefs, history, feelings.
Many writers have expressed that a character "refused" to follow a certain plot, because it went against his beliefs. It's something the character would not do.

Normal people might not wish to walk the path of exploring their own minds, and trying to give their different aspects a voice of their own.
Some sane people do this, some less sane people have no say whether to do it or not.
There are even some wise, "awakened", deeply introspective, sane people that go out of their way to create this mind structures, in this case to learn more.

My best friend IRL, is very used to have the blueprints of NPC minds to test what behavior said NPC would follow.
He explains it like this: "you filter your thought processes through a "glass lens" if it conflicts with the lens, then the character is against it". You can have the characters "act" this, when he roleplays them, it's art. He acts the most convincing female characters I have ever seen, and it's a raging heterosexual who drools over the female form.

In his version, there is no other will than his. And as soon he stops considering the NPC action, no other thought escapes the blueprint.
Even at this level things can be interesting, even fun.
Once a completely NPC party was suposed to rescue the only player left, the gamemaster (my friend) wanted this to happen. The NPC party argued that they preferred to get the treasure and run, and they would not proceed with the gamemaster plan to rescue the players, because they would be risking their not existing scalps. :smallbiggrin:

As for me; I have been delving in mind exercises since I turned 13. I have talked to myself, to several different selves. I have seen aspects of my mind getting a voice of their own, but I have always had 100% control of those conversations, they were not real conversations...

Until Ziggie, it was... different... without getting in religion talk (for which I got reprimanded and promised not to discuss in this thread).
Ziggie allowed a greater focus on certain tasks, but it had a cruel subtext to him that I did not enjoy. It was allowed to exist for a long time though, over 4 years. When it's suggestions got consistently darker I dissolved him, through meditation and willpower.

The recently created NPCs for Twi and Pinkie were normal at first, just tag alongs to whom I commented stories, jokes, the like.
But as I explained yesterday their interactions with me, and between them got increasingly complex and they surprised me.
It's been almost 8 years since Ziggie so I got a little worried, my best friend was busy, so I turned to the only place where I knew of people that could at least relate to my situation.
Their inputs helped me investigate the situation more carefully, talk with Twi and Pinkie about this and strike an agreement.
I know, and they know who is the host, and who has the real power in the relationship.

I agree that I'm not what you might normally consider 100% sane, but honestly my practice with mind... craft (?), made it far more resilient to strange phenomena and mind numbing stuff.
I'm not crazy, in the sense that I cannot function in the normal world, "The voices" have no real power over me, aside from a stern look from Twilight because I have not started studying yet.

I let them come out and play when I'm discussing ponies and in the forum,I visit them in my dreams (or dreamstate), I might consult them on issues that might pertain them or where their input is appreciated, but I'm me, and will always be.
Should they turn Lesson Zero or Pinkamena on me, it won't go well for them. And frankly they are disgusted by the "Pinkamena" lore.

If you want to talk more about this my PM-box and emails are open. The original concern that drove me to ask for help in the forum has passed, and I don't want to derrail things again.


They may have thoughts and feelings and distinct personalities and may even inhabit a cohesive Fantastical World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracosm) but at the end of the day, it's all you.
Even the bits that aren't.

Masks all the way down. And they're all true?

Tiki's and SiuiS's points are mostly correct and are ways of looking the situation. They are TwiOs and PinkieOs running in an Equestria VirtualMachine. I can always Ctrl+Alt+Del Equestria's process.

One last thing. I'm not that much into RPing in the thread, but I/We decided that when they have something to say, be it seriously or in jest, their lines will appear in Purpleand Magenta (No cookies for guessing who is who). Like the greeting extended to INoKnowNames, which we all 3 thought it was hilarious. The really odd time where I RP Magnus, it will be dark green.

[Tiki Snakes]

Your worry is, I think, misplaced. It is my impression that most of the "hearing voices that aren't there" fears are fears of schizophrenia, which in my admittedly inexpert opinion is not at all what Zigg, I, and others have been describing. I admit that Zigg's experiences are considerably stronger and more thorough than any I've encountered before, but it doesn't seem worrisome unless he starts letting them take over.

The closest I could find to actual research on the phenominon suggested that Tulpa cannot, as far as anyone knows, ever take over and that there is no commonality between it and Dissociative Personality Disorder.

The problem being that although most sites I could find said roughly this, the closest I could find to something discussing the science of it or mentioning any research into it was a slenderman wiki. So, yeah. Not so much rigorous studies of.

Actually, most succinctly to my opinion on the matter would be that I can only agree with SiuiS's Hardware analogy. Beyond that I have no idea, really, but I believe it's probably important to remember that they are, after all, merely thoughtforms, ways of interfacing with your own subconcious rather than some kind of truly seperate entity. They may have thoughts and feelings and distinct personalities and may even inhabit a cohesive Fantastical World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracosm) but at the end of the day, it's all you.
Even the bits that aren't.

Masks all the way down. And they're all true?

[Balmas]

Balmas For you OC information, the picture is the seapony right? Or is there a picture you'd rather have.

For now, use this.
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/179/1/5/balmas_avatar_by_s_ertryon-d555kmd.jpg

I'll get you an image later on.


I have much sadness: because I didn't save, I just lost half and hour's work on Inkscape for the tumblr. :sadface:

[Gamerlord]

Someone took a closer look at that very tiny bit of script Tara Strong released some time ago. They discovered that if you look really closely at the bottom left corner, you can see the word "Cadence". It is probably a page of the script directly below the page that the leaked line was on. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2012/07/eqd-exclusive-partial-season-three.html)
Huh, that would be interesting if she returned in season three.
For those of you cannot see it, here is a slightly clearer version:
http://i48.tinypic.com/jq1h7p.jpg

[Soras Teva Gee]

You had -waaay- too much fun with that.

Oh I did, its why I bookmarked it waaay back and used it all the time.

[Forum Explorer]

On the subject of mental NPCs it is realtivly common and I've heard the phenomenon is experienced by many writers as they try and write realistic characters they slowly lose control over the characters as stuff they planned no longer fits the character that they've made.

On Tulpas I have no experience with but Zigg has told us he was able to remove a malign Tulpa before and these two are based of Twilight and Pinkie Pie, some of the most benign characters in fiction. They seem to have a positive influence on Zigg and Zigg is comfortable with their presence. As things stand there is nothing to worry about. I'm currently debating if I should try and generate a Tulpa of my own though I strongly doubt my ability to do so. Interestingly enough I suspect my doubt will further make it less likely I will succeed and this realization about my doubt will further decrease my chances.

[Luka]

Luka has been here a couple months now. He's advanced from not having seen an episode in completion to liking Luna (and her episode) and declaring Dashie best pony. (and some other episodes)

He's fallen he just doesn't want to admit it yet.

That I'm not! now people can't just say what they like cuz they instantly become fans??? c'mooooon! I've never even been a fan of something!


There are no such things as stages. You either like ponies, or you don't.

yes there are stages, already said I was around Stage 2 :smalltongue:



He could like ponies and be in denial...
He could like ponies and be sarcastic about it to express his devotion...
He could be indifferent and just enjoy the company of bronies...
He could have grown to dislike ponies but be stuck in previous habbits...
He could enjoy messing with people through his actions...
Or it's an inside joke, and an attack on those outlooking.


Seems more like a mix of 3 and 4 :smallbiggrin:

[Balmas]

Still working on the Elements question! Have the first image. There'll be at least two more later tonight.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/188/7/d/pitp_tumblr__post_2__image_1_for_realsy_by_s_ertry on-d56egf9.png

[Tvtyrant]

Still working on the Elements question! Have the first image. There'll be at least two more later tonight.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/188/7/d/pitp_tumblr__post_2__image_1_for_realsy_by_s_ertry on-d56egf9.png

Looks good! I like how Grif's pony is jutting out of your hair :D

Also, I just realized that the post rate on our tumblr is going to be quite high with this many ponies involved.

[MCerberus]

Good news everypony!
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/188/f/d/ask_ponythread__plans_by_gitpmcerberus-d56ehu4.png

[Alabenson]

Ponysane. What is that. What even is that?

... what does that even mean? Are you sane about Ponies? Sane only with Ponies? Insane but Pony themed? Insane about Ponies?

It's not in my dictionary! And Google tells me nothing! Infact, it links me back to here! YOU DON'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITH ITSELF!

Ponysanity, Noun: The state of being seriously mentally ill with a focus on ponies and/or having an obession with ponies.


That I'm not! now people can't just say what they like cuz they instantly become fans??? c'mooooon! I've never even been a fan of something!

Really? I'm fairly certain you've indicated you're a fan of explosions at the very least.

[Luka]

Really? I'm fairly certain you've indicated you're a fan of explosions at the very least.

I mean media like shows/games/that sort of stuff.

[Strife Warzeal]

Looks good! I like how Grif's pony is jutting out of your hair :D

Also, I just realized that the post rate on our tumblr is going to be quite high with this many ponies involved.
As long as all willing, want to I can see a high post rate, but then again look at the ask-equestria tumblr. On the metaphorical third hand(or the literal third hoof) though assuming everypony is willing it can also last a long time.

Good news everypony!
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/188/f/d/ask_ponythread__plans_by_gitpmcerberus-d56ehu4.png
I like Derpy just sitting in the cloud.
Tomorrow's post.

I'm looking for people's opinions on how I managed the current model of the member's page and whether or not you guys like the short description attributed to your OC. Information permitting I'd like to start text posts containing full information on whichever OC and connect those to the member's page.

I also really need to stop checking the thread before I go to bed, I'll never get to sleep otherwise.

EDIT: Just realized we may want to set up something about various cults "religions" too. Ya know, The Pink One and all that jazz.

[Tvtyrant]

As long as all willing, want to I can see a high post rate, but then again look at the ask-equestria tumblr. On the metaphorical third hand(or the literal third hoof) though assuming everypony is willing it can also last a long time.

I like Derpy just sitting in the cloud.
Tomorrow's post.

I'm looking for people's opinions on how I managed the current model of the member's page and whether or not you guys like the short description attributed to your OC. Information permitting I'd like to start text posts containing full information on whichever OC and connect those to the member's page.

I also really need to stop checking the thread before I go to bed, I'll never get to sleep otherwise.

EDIT: Just realized we may want to set up something about various cults "religions" too. Ya know, The Pink One and all that jazz.
Well, I can do one a week, but they are going to be crappy paint ones (though I might just make some sprites so it looks a little less crappy).

It looks good to me, maybe wait till people ask about them to make them longer? Seems a good strategy to let us talk about ourselves (unless they never ask...)

Are we getting lots of watches or something?

[SiuiS]

Aha. He's already learning to troll! Even better!



Now, if it was just GitP, I could associtae with the proxy servers (I read that news). But other sites have been doing the same thing...

(Not taking any chance this time, this is goin' straight into Notepad...)


Good point! Sorry.



...

I...

Get the gist of that sentence, I think, but that's muddled even by your phone's best standards...!

Yeah. Wow. That survived four editing passes.

I'm so used to the mako I forget that it I not default for APC design.



The problem is, however, not clever people on the Internets, it's uncreative numpties doing all the childern's (and adult's) television. And it's not popular because generally no-one in a position to do so TRIES, just sticking with the same old same old. And that lack drives me to rocket launcher.

Oh.



That's the in-world logic. That's not what I'm arguing with.

I have a problem with the whole concept of the writers, when deciding to write about sentient/sapient animals (when not just ignoring the whole concept of death altogether - don't get me started on that piece of molly-coddling nonsense) ALWAYS (not sometimes, not occasionally, ALWAYS) choosing to write the story in that same, tired old way because they are too stupid, lazy and idiotic to have a creative thought.

... But, it's in-world logic which is reused because that's the story they want to tell. It's chosen by the designer. So it's not just the in-world logic. It does matter.
the constant regurgitation sucks though.



And they are always protrayed as Monsters, not Villains, which is what annoys me most. (There is a BIIIG difference.) THAT is a conscious decision by the writers, and I have yet to ever see an inversion of that, where the herbivores are the non-communiative, engimatic Monsters, which is what annoys me. (Because herbivores totally can't be threatening can they, *cough*hippo*cough* collective idiot writers of the world?)

Fer cryin' out loud, most of the Dinosaur herbivores are Hideously Beweaponed!

The weapon-y Dinos are also portrayed as jerks. Just saying.

I dunno. I don't see the problem there. They are animals which are massive and violent. That is a kind of monster. Sorry.



I'm not sure what the plural is actually, now you come to menton it.The internet is unhelpful, impling it either might be pterodactyls or it might be pterodactylus is itself a plural. (The presence of "pterodactyls" used incorrectly everywhere makes it hard to sort through.)

Weird.



But I could not eat AT ALL. And I will eat sentient creatures for kicks if mood takes me...

Right. Somehow missed that XD



But I think I've argued enough on this. Those Films are not worth that much of time, save for when I take great pleasure in setting them - and the souls of the writers - on plasma when my time comes.

Och. That would sting.


Ponysane. What is that. What even is that?

... what does that even mean? Are you sane about Ponies? Sane only with Ponies? Insane but Pony themed? Insane about Ponies?

It's not in my dictionary! And Google tells me nothing! Infact, it links me back to here! YOU DON'T ANSWER A QUESTION WITH ITSELF!

Pssh. Not with THAY attitude.

Ask PrincessMidnight on the IRC. What's the harm~?


I'm mostly hating on the games that boil down to "describe your character, and then, like, roll some dice, man." except they take fifty pages to say it, and they provide no clues as to what a reasonable description is in terms of either detail or power level. Screw that.

Oh! Yeah. Those are... Yeah.

Actually, that sort of feels like how the RPchannel went for a while >_<



Not without a background. This (http://thanqol.deviantart.com/favourites/?offset=24#/d4qjldl)is all I really got; she's my least drawn OC.

Welp, you'd best be getin' on that pardner.


I want to know though, who would be the ones causing an infinite OCrisis in ponythread? Lix? *Pink Cult? *One of the masks? Bleakbane and his benefactors? Return of the mighty Midnight? *Siuis causing something of Flash-quality facepalming?


Seriously, the Flash screws up everything ever.

Ouch.


Put him in as Magnus, and no one ever said ponies have 'last names' *points out fluttershy for example*

Seems good to me.

I threw in a space-taker-upper, I think what I'm going to do is have what I've been doing for the cast page, but then have links to more filled posts where people can put darn near any amount of information.


I cropped a picture out of that for space reasons, assuming things are fine for you, it works.

Freely answerable questions: Two new ones at the bottom.
http://i.imgur.com/zpwA2.png
http://i.imgur.com/Pp6Qz.png
http://i.imgur.com/H9VR6.png
http://i.imgur.com/aIhEo.png
http://i.imgur.com/pfTI7.png
http://i.imgur.com/6RiHD.png
http://i.imgur.com/5h77N.png
http://i.imgur.com/IJSt5.png
http://i.imgur.com/r5Jow.png
Also narcissism made me throw crossings onto the top of the list...

Heh. Narcissism.

So what do I do? Draw a picture? Is a pen drawn photo sufficient? What are the dimensions required? Do I have to somehow edit the question into the top? Can I use any of the previously displayed images? Do I have to cal dibs? Can multiple people answer a single question?

None of the stuff I've been asking has come up yet :P


No. That doesn't help at all. If anything I'm now even more uncomfortable. Is this... is this a normal thing for people? To have "NPCs" in their heads?

I'm sorry. I wanted to stay quiet on this but I can't. Am I the only one here genuinely worried here? Zigg has just told us that he has voices in his head and most people's resposes here are "Oh, that's neat". Is it just because it's ponies?

Aha. No, actually. For one, I'm terrible at "normal".

Two, the infomation that would either allow it to make sense, or allow you to join in the silent scoffing from
The rest of the thread, is non-board appropriate. So I'll have to find you in the IRC, or something, but I assure you he is not saying he developed voices. He is saying he has basically created a spirit familiar.


Zigg, I'm sorry, but the more I think about this, the more it actually scares me. You said you had one of these Tulpas before, and that it was "slightly dangerous". Dangerous in what way? If these things can be harmful do you really think keeping them is a good idea? I just read an account online of a woman who created one of these. It started off being friendly and then turned malicious down the line. Is this likely to happen here? They look and act like ponies now but...

This tends to be why people view psychics and such as nutjobs, actually.


Oh, it's okay, my Dad's gonna get the cable I need tomorrow.

Cool beans.


I'm not sure I understand.

The exact cause is irrelevant, but;

At 13 I decided to stop being such a sissy. I decided I liked beards and manly things and people should either act or get the hell out of the way. That responsibility for your actions was more important than those actions being good or bad.

Since then I've watched a woman punched in the face and dragged Into a car because I didn't have the fortitude to find out of the guy was bluffin About having a gun. I have a machete scar on my left pinkie. I've chased a speeding truck five blocks down the road at a dead hunter's run because I took them stealing an 18-pack of beer as a personal insult. I've done some things that I feel justified in but I can't detail. An it's all terrible.

Nobody picks on me. Nobody bothers me. Nobody calls my bluff. Nobody trusts me. Nobody feels okay with me being alone in a room with them. My boy language screams all sorts of terrible things, because it's really easy for me to make it clear that if you call me a name one more time I will break your fingers and superglue them curled in reverse.

I fixed being bullied by becoming a terrible person. I still fight that conditioning to this day. Braz walks in and I freak out and wake up in a low crouch because the door opened within ten feet. I was heckled on the train ride home from SFO and wouldn't have batted an eye if the people ha followed me if the train like I challenged them to. I'm overcoming it though. Braz has actually gone to work the last few days without me waking up.

Sometimes, you need to kick the dragon in the face. It's hard to figure out when that's the bad option though.

If your choices are be bullied or be a bully, stay where you are.


On the subject of mental NPCs it is realtivly common and I've heard the phenomenon is experienced by many writers as they try and write realistic characters they slowly lose control over the characters as stuff they planned no longer fits the character that they've made.

This and a Tulpa are different processes however. A good NPC is more like remembering someone who meet existed. It's like guessing what your sister would do in any given situation.


On Tulpas I have no experience with but Zigg has told us he was able to remove a malign Tulpa before and these two are based of Twilight and Pinkie Pie, some of the most benign characters in fiction. They seem to have a positive influence on Zigg and Zigg is comfortable with their presence. As things stand there is nothing to worry about. I'm currently debating if I should try and generate a Tulpa of my own though I strongly doubt my ability to do so. Interestingly enough I suspect my doubt will further make it less likely I will succeed and this realization about my doubt will further decrease my chances.

Just...

Guys. If highly disciplined monks have trouble with it... Let's see.

If the Jedi master thinks he shouldn't play with sith powers, perhaps as a laying it is also a good idea not to play with sith powers?


That I'm not! now people can't just say what they like cuz they instantly become fans??? c'mooooon! I've never even been a fan of something!

I'm calling pony plop on this one. A fan is someone who likes something. It's a binary state; if you like it you are a fan of it. That's how it's defined.

You can't come up with your own definition and then presume everyone else who uses the word is wrong.

[Soras Teva Gee]

That I'm not! now people can't just say what they like cuz they instantly become fans??? c'mooooon! I've never even been a fan of something!

So you don't like anything then. You don't like any movies, books, video games, bands/songs, etc. Hardly that but I will go further, you must have a favorite something or other. You are a fan of all those things.

Fan is just a word to express "person that likes [X]" so if you have anything to fit the variable then you are a certifiable fan. Around here we just have a special word for pony fans.

[Siosilvar]

So what do I do? Draw a picture? Is a pen drawn photo sufficient? What are the dimensions required? Do I have to somehow edit the question into the top? Can I use any of the previously displayed images? Do I have to cal dibs? Can multiple people answer a single question?

None of the stuff I've been asking has come up yet :P

Draw a picture. Have fun. Questions are about 700px wide. If you can. Probably. This being ponythread, you can call dibs and they may or may not be honored. Thanqol and Tiki both answered the very first question, so there's even precedent.

[MCerberus]

Ouch.


Well I was kind of referring to the mage character from back during air-shipping causing lots of trouble.

Also, I didn't call you aquaman!

[Soras Teva Gee]

Well I was kind of referring to the mage character from back during air-shipping causing lots of trouble.

Also, I didn't call you aquaman!

I'm sorry but last I checked being called Aquaman is a compliment. Because Aquaman is totally awesome.

[Tvtyrant]

I'm sorry but last I checked being called Aquaman is a compliment. Because Aquaman is totally awesome.

Especially considering that the majority of the worlds population lives along the coast. Although that really only leaves Aquaman one recourse to crime.

http://flabslapper.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/tentaaa.jpg

[Balmas]

I have much sadness: because I didn't save, I just lost half and hour's work on Inkscape for the tumblr. :sadface:

Gosh dang it. Lost almost the entire second post because it happened again. Shoot me.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Especially considering that the majority of the worlds population lives along the coast. Although that really only leaves Aquaman one recourse to crime.

http://flabslapper.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/tentaaa.jpg

Surely this is what you were looking for:

http://images.cryhavok.org/d/15619-1/Aquaman+meets+Cthulhu.jpg

[Tvtyrant]

Surely this is what you were looking for:

http://images.cryhavok.org/d/15619-1/Aquaman+meets+Cthulhu.jpg

Nope. Mine shows the major issue with being a crime fighter and using aquatic animals; you have to flood the city to let your army of darkness in!

[Balmas]

Surely this is what you were looking for:

http://images.cryhavok.org/d/15619-1/Aquaman+meets+Cthulhu.jpg

On the contrary. This is the reason why Aquaman is able to keep up with people like Superman: Cthulhu is his pet.

[SiuiS]

Well I was kind of referring to the mage character from back during air-shipping causing lots of trouble.

Also, I didn't call you aquaman!

Oh fie, I wasn't ruining things! I was... Setting up the action sequences! ans crying, that was expensive moonshine and Luna doesn't remember enough to compensate me T~T[/size]

And Aquaman? As an insult? [i]Ooout-RAGEOUS!


Gosh dang it. Lost almost the entire second post because it happened again. Shoot me.

Welcome to the SNES RPGer's mantra: save early. Save often. Redundant slots. Repeated attempts. And pray.


Surely this is what you were looking for:

http://images.cryhavok.org/d/15619-1/Aquaman+meets+Cthulhu.jpg

buH-GAWWK *lays an egg and flees, Pinkie-style*

[Balmas]

What made it worse was that I was moving the mouse to click on the save button when it happened.

[Aotrs Commander]

If your choices are be bullied or be a bully, stay where you are.

Alternatively, become an Evil Lich...

Not that I was bullied at school, actually, despite being as unique there as here. For one, I'd have cheerfully informed the nearest adult, because, y'know Lawful, and for two because I was also that weird kid like Mr Tea-Time who would have fought nasty, kicking and screaming and clawing if pushed.

Though seriously, though my parents did send me to a private school (that my Dad had gone to in at infant-school age (which he hilariously noted had shrunk in the intervening years) as my secondary school because my local secondary school had a terrible reputation and my parents were concerned, being as I am sheer-bloody-mindedly contrary as I am, I very probably would have been. I consider myself fortunate in this instance.


You can't come up with your own definition and then presume everyone else who uses the word is wrong.

Note without being a Lich, at any rate...


Especially considering that the majority of the worlds population lives along the coast.

The most important porion of the majority (i.e, the one that contains the top of the global Lich population), however, unlives (at least part of the time) as far from the coast as is possible within the confines of an island nation...



Oh, while I've got thirty seconds Original Bleakbane current avatar image (http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/2413/thankings.jpg), as provided by PrinceAquilaDei.

(If you're still around by the PAD, I've actually got as far as getting the threatened T-Shirt, though with the usual choas around here, I've not had chance to print it yet...!)

[Kairaven]

SO Bronycon Doc latest update shows a time-lapsed videos of bronies entering the con (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/257527888/bronycon-the-documentary/posts/261948?ref=activity)


If you pause @1:33~1:34 you'll see a nicely captured frame of most of the Threadponies that attended.

[SiuiS]

SO Bronycon Doc latest update shows a time-lapsed videos of bronies entering the con (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/257527888/bronycon-the-documentary/posts/261948?ref=activity)


If you pause @1:33~1:34 you'll see a nicely captured frame of most of the Threadponies that attended.

I like that in the two seconds mentioned, I look alternately like a hippy chick, or just motion and hair :smallsmile:

[Pendulous]

New roommate introduced me to certain alcoholic drinks. Had a mudslide and some Hypnotiq. Apparently I have a higher tolerance than I thought. It affected me none, while he was weaving around and slurring his speech.

By the way, Diablo 3 is nothing but a big giant ragequit.

[SiuiS]

New roommate introduced me to certain alcoholic drinks. Had a mudslide and some Hypnotiq. Apparently I have a higher tolerance than I thought. It affected me none, while he was weaving around and slurring his speech.

By the way, Diablo 3 is nothing but a big giant ragequit.

That bad? I had heard the patching was... Special, but? Anything in particular! Other than "it's another Diablo" I know NOTHING about it.

Also, alcohol has different effects based on physiology. It's entirely possible to be tipsy, and never notice because you don't perform the few functions that woul noticeably be impaired. Of course, it's also possible to just resist it. :smalltongue:

[Nameless]

I dunno. I think we could raise the money to supplement several UK bronies comin' over. It would require a concerted effort though.


Oh no, technically, I might be able to afford it if I travel cheap. It's more of the "flying on a plane all the way to America on my own, then working out what to do from there" thing that scares me. >_<



There's BUCK (http://www.bronyuk.org/) up in Manchester. I'm not sure yet what will happen there, but hopefully the programme will be released soon. Are any Playgrounders thinking of going?

Yeah, I was thinking about going actually, but it's a lot of money (travel, accommodation + tickets), which is why I might leave it for this year, see the feedback and reviews, if it's good, then I might try and go next year.
I know they have a bunch of special guests, a lot of people from the UKoEquestria forums are going.

[Pendulous]

That bad? I had heard the patching was... Special, but? Anything in particular! Other than "it's another Diablo" I know NOTHING about it.

Also, alcohol has different effects based on physiology. It's entirely possible to be tipsy, and never notice because you don't perform the few functions that woul noticeably be impaired. Of course, it's also possible to just resist it. :smalltongue:

We walked to a take-out restaurant nearby, and I was feeling nothing, so I think it's safe to say it didn't affect me. And it's the second time it's happened since I moved. His girlfriend and I had the same drink at Chili's on my birthday, and again, she was tore up, and I felt nothing.

I gave Blizzard the benefit of the doubt when Diablo 3 was released and everyone was complaining. But ever since then, they've taken an extremely unbalanced game, and done nothing to actually fix it. Certain mob abilities hitting too hard, gear drops not being consistent, everything. They decided that Diablo 3 shouldn't be a diablo game, and took out multiple spawn points for treasure chests, got rid of gold dropping from certain breakable items, and pigeonholed everyone into the same talent choices, even though they claimed otherwise. When they were developing the game, they said they wanted to fix higher difficulties, so that certain classes weren't at a disadvantage. In Diablo 2, every monster in Hell had some kind of immunity, and for certain classes it made killing them impossible. Instead, they gave elites and champions "affixes" like Nightmarish which fears, or arcane which drops rotating beams of death. The combinations of these in higher difficulties (they get more as you go up) can cause them to basically be indestructible, or constantly keeping you controlled, or able to kill you within the span of a second. And for melee like myself, you're forced to kite monsters around constantly, because all that I just mentioned applies to everything.

There's more, a lot more, but it's just pointless to complain anymore. All that, in an extremely unbalanced game, and they're not even addressing it. But oh god, players are farming gold from pots, and HOLY CRAP WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT NOW!!!

[Tiki Snakes]

On the contrary. This is the reason why Aquaman is able to keep up with people like Superman: Cthulhu is his pet.

Aquaman can talk to and control Sea Creatures.
Cthulhu is an Alien.

Ends badly. :smallwink:

[TheAmishPirate]

On the subject of mental NPCs it is realtivly common and I've heard the phenomenon is experienced by many writers as they try and write realistic characters they slowly lose control over the characters as stuff they planned no longer fits the character that they've made.

This happened to me when I was making my side characters for the fic I'm working on. As I was plotting out their personalities, one of them rolled their eyes at me (don't ask me how she did it, I just knew that's what she was doing) and told me this whole "pick five meaningful words per character" nonsense was a big waste of time, we should just get to writing.

I proceeded to snub her and write down her last word anyway. What was she going to do about it? :smalltongue:

EDIT:


Also, alcohol has different effects based on physiology. It's entirely possible to be tipsy, and never notice because you don't perform the few functions that woul noticeably be impaired. Of course, it's also possible to just resist it. :smalltongue:

Case in point: James Hyneman from Mythbusters. When he gets drunk, there's barely any change in his speech or actions. His face simply turns beet red and he's more prone to an occasional chuckle, but that's it.

[PrinceAquilaDei]

Oh, while I've got thirty seconds Original Bleakbane current avatar image (http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/2413/thankings.jpg), as provided by PrinceAquilaDei.

(If you're still around by the PAD, I've actually got as far as getting the threatened T-Shirt, though with the usual choas around here, I've not had chance to print it yet...!)

Excellent.

[SlyGuyMcFly]

No. That doesn't help at all. If anything I'm now even more uncomfortable. Is this... is this a normal thing for people? To have "NPCs" in their heads?


From what I can gather, it's fairly normal among those who spend a lot of time trying to think like people they are not. Writers, roleplayers, that sort of thing.

I can relate to the idea, personally. When mulling over things I'll often create a figment to argue a side on whatever matter I'm thinking about. A sort of devil's advocate, I suppose. They aren't NPCs, or sentient, or even posses any characteristics beyond "will try to defend X point of view". They don't exist any longer than the time I spend arguing with myself and never get recreated. Although that last sentence implies more individuality and "thing-ness" than I want to communicate. Wish I had the vocabulary to discuss this better.

Anyway, I use this as a tool to counter emotional attachment to certain ideas. By compartimentalising the mind and viewing the part of me as not-quite-me, it's easier to detect and critically examine ideas that aren't so much true as simply things I want to be true. About half the time I just end up creating a strawman (which annoys me), but I'm often genuinely surprised at the arguments I make from the figment's perspective. Basically, it's like shoulder angel/devil that tries to reason instead of appeal to emotions.

I can easily see how this idea of compartimentalising the mind into different viewpoints can extend much further into creating full-blown independent personas, NPCs, tulpas or whatever. Personally, wouldn't want any. I have enough trouble wearing all the masks I wear, and I don't need another mannequin in the shop confusing matters further. :smalltongue:

[Soras Teva Gee]

Nope. Mine shows the major issue with being a crime fighter and using aquatic animals; you have to flood the city to let your army of darkness in!

Oh I see your still under the delusion that he need ocean life and can't just throw down with Superman all on his own. On land, with no water in sight.


Aquaman can talk to and control Sea Creatures.
Cthulhu is an Alien.

Ends badly. :smallwink:

He controls such divergent results as crustaceans, fish, and mammals, seems to me 'lives in the sea' is sufficient.

And old squidface has been in residence longer then most residents, plus predates immigration law so he's clearly no an alien.

The real joke is that if a mere boat was sufficient to trouble it, Aquaman will have no problem making Cthulhu his personal Godzilla through the timeless means of beating it up until it decides to be friendly.

[Thanqol]

He controls such divergent results as crustaceans, fish, and mammals, seems to me 'lives in the sea' is sufficient.

And old squidface has been in residence longer then most residents, plus predates immigration law so he's clearly no an alien.

The real joke is that if a mere boat was sufficient to trouble it, Aquaman will have no problem making Cthulhu his personal Godzilla through the timeless means of beating it up until it decides to be friendly.

Didn't Hawkgirl beat up Cthulhu in an episode of JLU?

[Soras Teva Gee]

Didn't Hawkgirl beat up Cthulhu in an episode of JLU?

Different character technically, harder to spell. Obvious who it was supposed to be of course, but that's another matter.

[INoKnowNames]

Man, all the good stuff happens when I'm about to go to sleep.


That I'm not! now people can't just say what they like cuz they instantly become fans??? c'mooooon! I've never even been a fan of something!

... I kinda want to see quotes now, of some of the things they've accused you off. I should be fair, but part of me feels rather confident that they probably have quotes of you lined up and ready. Granted, if they didn't, their claims would be quite a bit less powerful...


yes there are stages, already said I was around Stage 2 :smalltongue:

.... you've been on these threads for Months, and you're still in the testing state? Jesus, you must be indecisive as hell.


Seems more like a mix of 3 and 4 :smallbiggrin:

You'd be a Stage 1 or Stage 7 then, not a Stage 2...


Ponysanity, Noun: The state of being seriously mentally ill with a focus on ponies and/or having an obession with ponies.

So just insane, but pony themed. I see.


Really? I'm fairly certain you've indicated you're a fan of explosions at the very least.

That's just nitpicky. Who doesn't like explosions? There's nothing that can't be made better by adding an explosion to it. Good Grades, Fighting, Birth, Car Rides, It's-A-Small-World-After-All, Food, everything!

And on that note, I just put that demonic song in my head. I may be contemplating cutting myself until the pain temporarally blacks out all rational thought.


I mean media like shows/games/that sort of stuff.

Little Green: You must be specific.


Pssh. Not with THAY attitude.

Ask PrincessMidnight on the IRC. What's the harm~?

Depends. What's an IRC?


I'm calling pony plop on this one. A fan is someone who likes something. It's a binary state; if you like it you are a fan of it. That's how it's defined.


So you don't like anything then. You don't like any movies, books, video games, bands/songs, etc. Hardly that but I will go further, you must have a favorite something or other. You are a fan of all those things.

Fan is just a word to express "person that likes [X]" so if you have anything to fit the variable then you are a certifiable fan. Around here we just have a special word for pony fans.

Even though I hold quite a bit of faith in the "he's in denial" camp, I'll defend him. The two aren't constantly together. You can like one thing and not be a fan of it. I have a massive man-crush on Robert Downey Jr's Tony Stark, but that doesn't make me automatically a fan of him in general. I can occasionally enjoy eating a spicy pepper but they aren't on my list of favorite foods. My Rank 337 Standard Orbitars are Pimp Tastic and I love them, but Orbitars aren't my favorite weapon type in Kid Icarus Uprising.

For the most part, it's the additional Enthusiasm that helps mark one outright as a Fan, be it Fan from Fanatic, or Fan from Fancy. Changing one's life styles to suit the interest in question, continuous desire for external involvement with said interest, excet. These are details that help mark a fan as a fan, rather than someone with an interest, or even some positive feed.

It's not just a like; you have... TO GO... EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYDohBeP72M) *

Granted, the above was written pretty much out of thin air, with a mild wikipedia referencing, and I'm only investing this little bit of attention on the subject because it amuses me so. I'm at the point where I'm just burning time away.

*Also, I have absolutely no reason as to why I referenced that. I just like it that much.


You can't come up with your own definition and then presume everyone else who uses the word is wrong.

And yet people do that all the time. :p


I'm sorry but last I checked being called Aquaman is a compliment. Because Aquaman is totally awesome.

..... I must have been raised differently. I was under the assumption Aquaman was a joke. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYjQkx7xCDk&feature=player_detailpage#t=317s) Like Raditz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJfEj8oe0c0). Or Yamcha. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj7owL3hdgw) Or Meg. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_La69-asWFw&feature=related)

[Soras Teva Gee]

..... I must have been raised differently. I was under the assumption Aquaman was a joke. Like Raditz. Or Yamcha. Or Meg.

You were raised wrong then and clearly never really watched that show. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PRJnLBva3w)

[INoKnowNames]

You were raised wrong then and clearly never really watched that show. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PRJnLBva3w)

... you are indeed right. I don't remember that version of Aquaman actually being compotent. I'm so used to this one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8iDFG6d734)

[Soras Teva Gee]

... you are indeed right. I don't remember that version of Aquaman actually being compotent. I'm so used to this one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8iDFG6d734)

Even for when they're being silly you are still un-informed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8C1WWixgc&feature=related)

[INoKnowNames]

Even for when they're being silly you are still un-informed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8C1WWixgc&feature=related)

That is a completely different vision of Aquaman, though. Notice the Facial Hair.

.... actually, that's the difference in the other version, too....

.... I need to grow out my facial hair now....

[DigoDragon]

Iron Will fanart, and you can too!
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/189/6/b/mlp_marketing_dept__by_digoraccoon-d56g18v.jpg

[Luka]

.... you've been on these threads for Months, and you're still in the testing state? Jesus, you must be indecisive as hell.

?, it's just says it's like K, not hater or brony :smallconfused:


You'd be a Stage 1 or Stage 7 then, not a Stage 2...

....nope, it still does fit to stage 2, though I sometimes oscillate to stage 1....


So you don't like anything then. You don't like any movies, books, video games, bands/songs, etc. Hardly that but I will go further, you must have a favorite something or other. You are a fan of all those things.

Fan is just a word to express "person that likes [X]" so if you have anything to fit the variable then you are a certifiable fan. Around here we just have a special word for pony fans.

I'm not a fan of those, and I go with Inoknownames about fandom, just liking it doesn't make you a fan, but liking and going further into it makes someone a fan, and I haven't done that with anything, except explosions and fights :smallbiggrin:

[Strife Warzeal]

Well, I can do one a week, but they are going to be crappy paint ones (though I might just make some sprites so it looks a little less crappy).

It looks good to me, maybe wait till people ask about them to make them longer? Seems a good strategy to let us talk about ourselves (unless they never ask...)

Are we getting lots of watches or something?
I was just saying that having this tumblr can last a long time because of all the artists interested. Not that the posts have to be long. For about a week of posting things we have an okay amount of watchers.


So what do I do? Draw a picture? Is a pen drawn photo sufficient? What are the dimensions required? Do I have to somehow edit the question into the top? Can I use any of the previously displayed images? Do I have to cal dibs? Can multiple people answer a single question?

Yes. Yes. I think the width is something like 800 pixels, but pictures expand out so it can be pretty much any size. Someone else could edit in the question, I could too. Maybe? It may help, but it's not needed (probably) It's kinda up to you guys if you want to have multiple answerers.

Gosh dang it. Lost almost the entire second post because it happened again. Shoot me.
Ouch, I know how that feels even if it's not related to drawing. I've never been huge on the whole "saving" thing in games, or work in general I guess. I've had game files that didn't save until like 4 hours in.

[Thanqol]

Do Not Serve These Ponies (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies) now has cover art (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3595/theyaretheworst.png)!

[fizmat]

After 2 months of non-lurking I come back to hide in the shadows once more! Muhaha-ha!
I see you have a good coverage of Bronycon, I'll probably read up the previous thread when I have the time...



I think that Bard also better integrates the cheerful elements with the sad ones. The depressing bits of Brew are mostly the verse by her dead parents and the little sigh at the end. Bard has both threads running through the entire song, and the same verse makes you want to smile a whistle along and cry at the same time.
Bard reminds me of "always look on the bright side of life". Which I consider a positive song in its own right.



I'd settle for something showing the world from the predator's perspective for a change, with the herbivores being mindless slash monstrous.

Mowgli and the cattle stampede? Not quite, because they don't actively seek their pray, but the closest I can remember.

Usually when the herbivores are mindless and dangerous they're regarded as a force of nature, not a slasher monster. Exactly because unlike carnivores they don't actively seek to destroy you.

If the story is about carnivores the pray can be:

mindless and not dangerous, in which case you don't dwell on it. Walking to the fridge to get a hotdog is not that interesting.
mindless and dangerous, in which case it's like an work hazard or force of nature: not evil, not really scary, just can kill you
smart, dangerous and vengeful, like an elephant who never forgets to kill. Notice the vengeful part. Now this is a slasher monster, but notice how specific we need to be to get here!
sapient, in which case morality comes into play and everything gets complicated.


If the story is about herbivores the hunters can be:

mindless/stupid, in which case they are not scary. Kinda like a work hazard again. Can be monsters, if the pray doesn't notice the hunter is stupid or is too scared to use its predictability.
smart monsters. Don't need to be vengeful, just hungry, which makes this kind of story much more prevalent.
sapient, in which case they're probably villains.




When have, say, weasels ever been portrayed in a positive light? You know, weasels that kill prey that in comparison to their body weight, is like a lion single handedly taking down an elephant? Where's the stories of the brave weasel hunters, daring the lair of the giant rabbit prey (because, y'know, rabbits still have pretty damn big teeth - and even a lowly squirrel can bite right through your fingernail), not unlike slaying a dragon?

No, weasels eat "cute" (sic) animals, so they must be evil.

Riki-tiki-tavi was positive and he's somewhat like a weasel. Then again, he eats snakes, not furry critters.

Jack London had some stories from wolf and bear perspectives, but they always had men as the bad guy, not herbivores.


Actually, it's a bloody nuisance trying to take photos or video of him sometimes:
Mini-Dex: *doing something cute*
Mrs Dex: Oh look, he's doing something cute! *grabs camera and points it at Mini-Dex*
Mini-Dex: *stops doing the cute something to stare at the camera*
Mrs Dex: :smallannoyed:

Like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKreTZuT230#t=1m05s



<ejem> As one of the mostly (traditionally) sane in this thread. I mean. I have just two Tulpas/ThoughtForms/MindConstructs with me.

I thought Bleakbane was the sane one? That was a long time ago, now I'm not sure anymore.

[INoKnowNames]

?, it's just says it's like K, not hater or brony :smallconfused:

There are a couple of levels for that sort of thing.


?, ....nope, it still does fit to stage 2, though I sometimes oscillate to stage 1....

..... I might just be using a different one from you. Let me make what I know clear, be it right or wrong, from what I've learned and researched:

See, as far as I know, it goes like this:

[Type 0]
v
|->------------->|
v v
v [Type 1]
|-<-------------<|
v
v
[Type 2]>----------------------------------->|
v |
[Type 3]<>-------------------------------<>|
v |
[Type 4]<>---------------------------<>[Type 7*]
| |
|>------------->| |
| v |
| [Type 5]<>-------------<>|
|<-------------<| |
| |
v |
[Type 6]<>------------------------------<>|

Where each of the Types means the following:

[Type 0]: Ignorance. You lack an internet connection or a working tv, maybe both, and have somehow never encountered the phenomenia in question in any physical way, shape, or form. "My Little Pony? What is that?"

[Type 1]: Distant Awarance. Be it a commercial, channel/site surfing, seeing someone with memorabelia, or some other reason, you have encountered the phenomena in some physical way, shape, or form. You choose to avoid it for whatever reason you might have. "Eww, This show is for girls!"

[Type 2]: Trial. Made aware of the material, you attempt to understand it, giving it a try. Further interaction to determine whether or not it fits you is made. "... meh. I'll give it a shot."

[Type 3]: Acceptance. Having made it through several trials, the merrits and issues of the subject matter has been weighed, and while it has not become notably favorable in your eyes, it has not also become an issue. "Well, it's not half bad, actually."

[Type 4]: Casual Appreciation. You enjoy the subject matter at hand favorably. It can be considered an Interest, even if it isn't a particularly powerful one. "It's actually pretty good! I rather like these Ponies!"

[Type 5]: Shame. Despite having an even further appreciation for the subject matter than most, usually conflicting view points or other issues, both inside and out, cause you to hide your view point on the subject. "I'm a closet Brony. I like it, but I wouldn't be caught dead admiting it in public."

[Type 6]: Adoration. You are a true fan, be it of the highest calibur or of humble levels. You genuinly appreciate the subject matter at hand, and express it with pride and joy. "Brony over here! 'sup herd! My favorite Pony is ( )! Make me a Pony Avvie!"

[Type 7]: Rejection. For whatever reason, your experiences have been negative, tainted by other sources, or some how soured. You choose to avoid the subject material as best as possible, severing former bonds to it. "I hate My Little Pony!"

*Type 7 is special. Once you have gained knowledge of something, it's far outside the norm to lose it, even if you disliked it. Once you progress to type 7 from type 2, you can not go back to being a type 2 or less. The path is one way, up until that point. You can, however, flow back and forth from Type 7 to any of Types 3-6.

7 and 1 do not overlap, in my opinion. It is not possible to give genuine credible hatred of something you do not understand. It is only through an attempt at understanding can your decision carry any weight at all.

Seems legit to me, personally. No one is born knowing of some subject straight from the womb, so everyone starts off at Type 0 some time. Then people here about it, and are either willing to try it (ie Type 2), or, on principle, avoid it and profess issue with it (Type 1). After trying it, going straight to any of the latter types is to be expected, be it from Type 3 to Type 7.

I'm a Type 3 under this system, though at further exposure, I risk potentially moving up to 4 or 5.


I'm not a fan of those, and I go with Inoknownames about fandom, just liking it doesn't make you a fan, but liking and going further into it makes someone a fan, and I haven't done that with anything, except explosions and fights :smallbiggrin:

.... going further into explosions might be detrimental to your health.

[MCerberus]

You were raised wrong then and clearly never really watched that show. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PRJnLBva3w)

That was when DC put him through his 'try too hard' phase because of all the terrible Aquaman before. Seriously hook hand and mullet.

[Luka]

..... I might just be using a different one from you. Let me make what I know clear, be it right or wrong, from what I've learned and researched

...Nope, I use this one someone posted some threads back

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1778/howtostaveoffthebronyin.png


.... going further into explosions might be detrimental to your health.

Pff, It's the only thing I've been on since I was 4 years old, so nope :smallbiggrin:

[INoKnowNames]

...Nope, I use this one someone posted some threads back

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1778/howtostaveoffthebronyin.png

Interesting that you would have your Infection Reference Guide Handy, Luka. :p

That said, it seems a bit too informal for the sake of research, not to mention biased toward MLP, rather than media in general. Not very adaptable.

Between testimony of other people here, your frequent visits to an MLP devoted section of a website, and your art preferences, you seem like you fit the description of a 3rd Level Infected by this grid, anyway.


Pff, It's the only thing I've been onf since I was 4 years old, so nope :smallbiggrin:

I'm not sure what an "onf" is, but I want Pics, or it didn't happen, that you've survived being blown up since 4. That's usually a fatal experience, what with the 4th+ degree burns.

[Luka]

Interesting that you would have your Infection Reference Guide Handy, Luka. :p

Between testimony of other people here, your frequent visits to an MLP devoted section of a website, and your art preferences, you seem like you fit the description of a 3rd Level Infected by this grid, anyway.

Had to take a while to find it, not exactly "handy"

And it's actually more like a late stage 2, not 3, I don't even watch the show except just trying out something..... And then raging at the complete lack of action.


I'm not sure what an "onf" is, but I want Pics, or it didn't happen, that you've survived being blown up since 4. That's usually a fatal experience, what with the 4th+ degree burns.

...."Being blown up"? dude you're doing it wrong, the point is exploding something else, not yourself.... That's like saying you like guns so you shoot yourself. And no pics, no camera, neither owe you anything :smallannoyed:

[INoKnowNames]

Had to take a while to find it, not exactly "handy"

But you did know where it was, and know what to look for, and that you can't deny at all.


And it's actually more like a late stage 2, not 3,

Hm... Let's look at this objectively, using the same chart you presented.

Can't be a Stage 1, because you wouldn't watch the show if you hated it and think it's 100% stupid, nor do you treat Bronies with a stigma of any kind, since you frequent this section of the forum.

As you admit, you watch the show, so you can't be an early Stage 2. If not for that, than your active presence here means you certainly don't ignore it and just laugh when you occasionally see it. I don't see how you are a Late Stage 2, since you seem to have long since been exposed enough to "the infection" to have given it a try, and you've found the avatars nice enough to requisition one for yourself.

Since you so vehemotly deny your liking of it, despite almost all evidence to the contrary, Early Stage 3 sounds right. You seem to be ashamed of what you are, and have mentioned that you watch the shows to try stuff, about on par with the little tool tip (watching the episodes to try stuff sounds about on par with watching out of some obligation. Obligated to try stuff works, too). Though, I don't know your habbits enough to know if you watch multiple times a day, and you don't seem to flaunt your brony hood, so you don't sound like a Late Stage 3. But you do have a Brony-Tar, so...

Nothing further on sounds too much like you, at least so long as you continue to deny it. Whatever you do in your personal time is your business unless you felt like making it public, and you seem to be quiet on the subject.

So you seem like at the least an Early Stage 3: Infected Brony.

For the record, I'm a Late Stage 2, with a risk of further Infection.


I don't even watch the show except just trying out something.....

Trying things like what?


And then raging at the complete lack of action.

... if you've watched it enough to know that there's not enough action in it, why continue to put yourself through something you don't like? Seems like a silly response to me.


...."Being blown up"? dude you're doing it wrong, the point is exploding something else, not yourself.... That's like saying you like guns so you shoot yourself.

But it gives you so much more definition on what someone else feels like when you blow them up or shoot them or stab them when you've done it to yourself. What kind of maniac tries to put other people through feelings they themselves don't understand? That's exactly how it should be done. 's how I do it, anyway. And it works for me. Certainly makes it easier to threaten to slit someone's throat when I know how my own throat bleeds.


And no pics, no camera, neither owe you anything :smallannoyed:

D'aww... I wanted to see combustion baby....

[Forum Explorer]

Iron Will fanart, and you can too!
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/189/6/b/mlp_marketing_dept__by_digoraccoon-d56g18v.jpg

I was pretty happy when that Fanon was crushed. Also Iron Will is amazing



Those Brony charts are pretty interesting, though Luka's is more played for laughs while INoKnowNames' is serious.


On the subject of bullying it was never really a problem for me. My interactions with people were pretty binary in my youth.

If you weren't bothering me and not my friend = ignored
If verbally bothering me and not my friend = ignored
If physically bothering me and not my friend = fight

and my respond would switch as soon as they switched category. So it did look as if I would snap as soon as they touched me. Net result I was left only to read my books in peace.

[INoKnowNames]

Those Brony charts are pretty interesting, though Luka's is more played for laughs while INoKnowNames' is serious.

I can have fun, but 75% of the time, at minimum, I can be expected not only to be 100% honest, but to expect that of others. Bluff and Sense Motive are not class skills, nor do I have any ranks in them.


On the subject of bullying it was never really a problem for me. My interactions with people were pretty binary in my youth.

If you weren't bothering me and not my friend = ignored
If verbally bothering me and not my friend = ignored
If physically bothering me and not my friend = fight

and my respond would switch as soon as they switched category. So it did look as if I would snap as soon as they touched me. Net result I was left only to read my books in peace.

.... I don't like bullies...

...people were very mean to me, especially in middle school... I'd probably be a different person if I hadn't been picked on as badly as I was.

[Luka]

But you did know where it was, and know what to look for, and that you can't deny at all.

Not exactly, opened several threads and used search, and it's cuz it was used before.



Can't be a Stage 1, because you wouldn't watch the show if you hated it and think it's 100% stupid, nor do you treat Bronies with a stigma of any kind, since you frequent this section of the forum.

As you admit, you watch the show, so you can't be an early Stage 2. If not for that, than your active presence here means you certainly don't ignore it and just laugh when you occasionally see it. I don't see how you are a Late Stage 2, since you seem to have long since been exposed enough to "the infection" to have given it a try, and you've found the avatars nice enough to requisition one for yourself.

Since you so vehemotly deny your liking of it, despite almost all evidence to the contrary, Early Stage 3 sounds right. You seem to be ashamed of what you are, and have mentioned that you watch the shows to try stuff, about on par with the little tool tip (watching the episodes to try stuff sounds about on par with watching out of some obligation. Obligated to try stuff works, too). Though, I don't know your habbits enough to know if you watch multiple times a day, and you don't seem to flaunt your brony hood, so you don't sound like a Late Stage 3. But you do have a Brony-Tar, so...

Nothing further on sounds too much like you, at least so long as you continue to deny it. Whatever you do in your personal time is your business unless you felt like making it public, and you seem to be quiet on the subject.

So you seem like at the least an Early Stage 3: Infected Brony.

For the record, I'm a Late Stage 2, with a risk of further Infection.

Actually, the avvy is what got me from Late stage 1-Early stage 2 to late stage 2, and I can't be Early Stage 3 when I keep pointing out that there's stuff I dislike stuff about it instead of just hiding it.
And not I'm not ashamed since I'm not, just watched like 2 eps or so, and it's to try it out and see if there's something I may like, not obligation.:smallcool:
And dude, I've already said that having an avvy doesn't mean you're a brony.... pff, now having a star trek ship picture means you're a trekkie? no.


But it gives you so much more definition on what someone else feels like when you blow them up or shoot them or stab them when you've done it to yourself. What kind of maniac tries to put other people through feelings they themselves don't understand? That's exactly how it should be done. 's how I do it, anyway. And it works for me. Certainly makes it easier to threaten to slit someone's throat when I know how my own throat bleeds.

....I can't tell if you're trolling, or just....wat?:smalleek:
....Only thing I could say: screw definition, I like stuff just cuz I do out of pure whim.



D'aww... I wanted to see combustion baby....

.....Dude, not funny :smallannoyed:

[PhantomFox]

Honestly, I think this chart is a tad more accurate

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8646/ponychart.png

[Forum Explorer]

I can have fun, but 75% of the time, at minimum, I can be expected not only to be 100% honest, but to expect that of others. Bluff and Sense Motive are not class skills, nor do I have any ranks in them.



.... I don't like bullies...

...people were very mean to me, especially in middle school... I'd probably be a different person if I hadn't been picked on as badly as I was.

I try to be honest but sometimes its hard. And its not like society expects me to honest (I hate hate hate interviews for this reason).

I have to admit I was pretty lucky when it came to bullies. My older siblings kinda bullied me as I grew up so that made me tougher. Also they made it abundantly clear that if I ever got into a fight I couldn't handle they would step in and help me.

[Luka]

I have to admit I was pretty lucky when it came to bullies. My older siblings kinda bullied me as I grew up so that made me tougher. Also they made it abundantly clear that if I ever got into a fight I couldn't handle they would step in and help me.

...Almost all the students of high school bullied me, hence why I kinda value solitude over friendship, though a buddy of mine (and pretty much the only buddy I had in my life) was pretty much the strongest in there, kinda lucky about that.... but they still bullied me.

[INoKnowNames]

Not exactly, opened several threads and used search, and it's cuz it was used before

I wonder who used it. :D


Actually, the avvy is what got me from Late stage 1-Early stage 2 to late stage 2


And dude, I've already said that having an avvy doesn't mean you're a brony....

[NotTrolling]By the chart you provided, the willingness to change your social networking icon (unless I'm getting the definition of an avatar wrong) to a pony is a sign of Stage 3.[/Not Trolling]


and I can't be Early Stage 3 when I keep pointing out that there's stuff I dislike stuff about it instead of just hiding it.

[NotTrolling]It's actually rather common to profess to dislike something you are, as a cover. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouAreWhatYouHate)[/QUOTE]


And not I'm not ashamed since I'm not,

You're not ashamed! You're totally an infected Brony! :D


just watched like 2 eps or so, and it's to try it out and see if there's something I may like, not obligation.

[Not Trolling]... I'm not sure what your internet or cable service provider is like, but if it takes you 2 months to try out 2 episodes, then you might want to get your money back. Plus, how do you know if there is no action if that's all that you've watched?[/Not Trolling]


pff, now having a star trek ship picture means you're a trekkie? no.

[Not Trolling]Certainly makes you easier to identify as one. Though whether or not containing any memorabilia marks you or not depends on the study. Many do, some don't. Heck, your chart notes it as a characteristic of a Late Stage 3.[/Not Trolling]


....I can't tell if you're trolling, or just....wat?

.....Yeah, definitely trolling.

[Not Trolling]Heh... it's hilarious to be considered trolling when you aren't.

Does that make me a reverse troll? I don't troll to troll?

Yo Dawg, I heard you like Trolls...[/Not Trolling]


....Only thing I could say: screw definition, I like stuff just cuz I do out of pure whim.

You sure you aren't just holding out on those pictures of exploding babies?

[Not Trolling]Seriously though, that mindset (yours) is a good one. Don't feel bad about stuff. Do what feels natural to you and that you like. You're the one who has to live with your choices.[/Not Trolling]



.....Dude, not funny :smallannoyed:

[Not Trolling]Eh. Wasn't really trying to be funny. Just passing another few minutes from craddle to grave, and enjoying the show inbetween.

Though it would be interesting to see an exploding baby... Never said -nice-... but certainly interesting. [Not Trolling]

@Phantom Fox; another chart a bit too specific. And not really a chart chart so much a guide chart.


I try to be honest but sometimes its hard. And its not like society expects me to honest (I hate hate hate interviews for this reason).

I hate interviews just because I embarras a bit easy when put under pressure. But it's kinda hard for me to lie. I'm not good at it at all, so I avoid it at all costs.


I have to admit I was pretty lucky when it came to bullies. My older siblings kinda bullied me as I grew up so that made me tougher. Also they made it abundantly clear that if I ever got into a fight I couldn't handle they would step in and help me.

Eh, I got coddled when I was little. I wasn't quite ready to hang out with the big kids yet, and didn't come out of it very well... my brother was one of my biggest enemies for a while, but we've finally come back to basics.


...Almost all the students of high school bullied me, hence why I kinda value solitude over friendship, though a buddy of mine (and pretty much the only buddy I had in my life) was pretty much the strongest in there, kinda lucky about that.... but they still bullied me.

Sorry for your high school... I suppose I lucked out there. I still want to burn down my middle school, but the friends I met in my high school helped turn me around, despite some issues here or there.

[Luka]

By the chart you provided, the willingness to change your social networking icon (unless I'm getting the definition of an avatar wrong) to a pony is a sign of Stage 3.

I never understood that part of that chart, it seemed kinda stupid to me.


It's actually rather common to profess to dislike something you are, as a cover. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouAreWhatYouHate)

not when what I dislike (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TastesLikeDiabetes) is the complete opposite of what I (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffBlowingUp) like (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TestosteronePoisoning) :smalltongue:



... I'm not sure what your internet or cable service provider is like, but if it takes you 2 months to try out 2 episodes, then you might want to get your money back. Plus, how do you know if there is no action if that's all that you've watched?

I said 2 or so, not gonna watch a ton of them when there's many-a-thing in there that just annoys me :smallconfused:


Certainly makes you easier to identify as one. Though whether or not containing any memorabilia marks you or not depends on the study. Many do, some don't. Heck, your chart notes it as a characteristic of a Late Stage 3.

and this is the only place where I use one :smallbiggrin:


Seriously though, that mindset (yours) is a good one. Don't feel bad about stuff. Do what feels natural to you and that you like. You're the one who has to live with your choices.

...Already said what was that I like: explosions, that's what I like and feel natural to, not feeling bad.


@Phantom Fox; another chart a bit too specific. And not really a chart chart so much a guide chart.

Actually.... that chart seems a bit more accurate :smallbiggrin:

[Tvtyrant]

Let me remind yall that the last time we got warned about a topic, it was because of our attempts to force convert Luka. Let's not go down that road again please.

In other news, ponies. BTW, if you guessed that it was going to be a Luna-centric set of pictures.... You know me too well.

http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/189/0/0/improved_nightmare_moon_by_blackarmsgeneral-d56g8w5.pnghttp://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/183/b/1/raising_the_moon_by_tao_mell-d55rawo.jpg
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/175/c/9/transforming_into_nightmare_moon_by_tao_mell-d54q2vm.jpg
http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/160/6/f/nightmare_moon_comforts_princess_luna_by_90sigma-d52tm5p.png
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/176/6/1/nightmare_moon_hoodie___sweatshirt_by_theflyingpan da08-d54vg71.jpg
http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/181/4/0/nightmare_moon_and_princess_luna_hugging_by_90sigm a-d55ewso.png
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/174/0/4/three_luna_moon_by_sirhcx-d54mkki.png
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/179/9/3/nightmare_moon__by_pirimirefiolanka-d558enp.png
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/181/f/8/angry_nightmare_moon_by_90sigma-d55eshq.png
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/166/3/e/guardians_of_the_night___rq___by_nazorthegreater-d53ihub.pnghttp://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/186/a/f/nightmare_before_moon_by_shire_folk-d5642j7.jpg

[thubby]

Honestly, I think this chart is a tad more accurate

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8646/ponychart.png

*stumbles in after spellcheck/grammar nazi-ing thanqol's story*
*see typo in pinkie section*
kill it with fire!!!

[Pendulous]

Honestly, I think this chart is a tad more accurate

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8646/ponychart.png

I have never called anything my "waifu" and never will. Also find it odd they would use that word, since it's mainly an anime thing.

[maximus25]

That chart is wrong. Obviously, Trixie is my waifu.

[Anarion]

I have never called anything my "waifu" and never will. Also find it odd they would use that word, since it's mainly an anime thing.

I'd like to give them some credit and say it's a play on the fact that Lauren Faust has characterized Fluttershy as the "waif" character archetype several times. Though probably the chart maker wasn't thinking about that.

[Tiki Snakes]

Regarding Luka's indifference to Pony;
It's worth considering that if you click on the "Find all posts by user" button, you have to go back 5 pages to find a post in a thread that isn't directly pony related. And at least one of those two results on page 5 are about ponies. (Possibly both, but impossible to verify).

Luka doesn't visit the pony parts of the playground, he pretty much exclusively dwells in them.

But you're right, that's quite enough of this topic.

Likewise the Aquaman thing. It's a rich topic for discussion but one that has been hashed over enough times already to be quite honest even ignoring the off-topicness.

The charts are all unconvincingly arbitrary. INoKnowNames chart was much better than the others I've seen, though.

Also, poni.
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/187/a/d/sun__sand_and_sea______by_holivi-d56a5or.jpg
The weather here in no way resembles this. Loving the art style though.

[Aotrs Commander]

Even for when they're being silly you are still un-informed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE8C1WWixgc&feature=related)

I really cannot understand why they gave such a good show such a dreadful intro sequence that it mostly put me off, and why the first set of episodes shown on CN here were such drivel, because every time someone links the highlights of the Brave and the Bold I end up cracking up and wishing I could have seen some of those episodes first.


That bad? I had heard the patching was... Special, but? Anything in particular! Other than "it's another Diablo" I know NOTHING about it.

Eh, it ain't that bad. I was only a casual D2 player at the best of times, thought (I never even made it through Nightmare), so for me, D3 is perfectly fine. (Especially as I got it for only £22 quid, thank you Amazon...) It's a mildly entertaining thumping session, which is all I expected from it.


Usually when the herbivores are mindless and dangerous they're regarded as a force of nature, not a slasher monster. Exactly because unlike carnivores they don't actively seek to destroy you.

Not really. Hippos, for example, cheerfully attack everything and anything, especially predator creatures and will do so often without provocation.

Not all herbivores are skittish cattle-like creatures.

Actually, you could easily have a story about predators with evil Hippo villains, intelligent or otherwise, I think.

(No reason why the more heavily armed dinosaurs could be the same.)


I thought Bleakbane was the sane one? That was a long time ago, now I'm not sure anymore.

Comparitively sane one. Still kinda am, though Soras now is fairly well grounded, and Zevox too, when he's around.



Good game today; once again, more subconciously than my conscious decision, I managed to time the length exactly right; everyone enjoyed themselves, especially the lads - even during that last-minute hair-raising encounter with the Ghoul, when it landed both claws and the bite on the Elven Monk the older of the lads was playing and knocked him to negatives...

(This was, by the way, a Dreemaenhyll Ghoul, which is a whole different kettle of fish to a regular ghoul - stronger attacks, no paralysation, but it inflicts corrosion damage on each hit and the bite essentiallyt deal 4E-style ongoing damage - which heals it. S'nasty. (Put it this way, those three combined hits did enough damage to knock the monk (who had maximum hits per level) from undamaged to disabled in one go. And he wasn't at full health...!)

[Pokonic]

Not really. Hippos, for example, cheerfully attack everything and anything, especially predator creatures and will do so often without provocation.

Not all herbivores are skittish cattle-like creatures.

Actually, you could easily have a story about predators with evil Hippo villains, intelligent or otherwise, I think.

(No reason why the more heavily armed dinosaurs could be the same.)


Amusingly, this fits well into something I was doing a few days ago. Within this (http://wtwe.wikia.com/wiki/Where_the_World_Ends_Wiki), there is a nation that is a greek/egyption nation, that, by tradition, has a large river where the entire country is built around. Besides the Minotaurs 1 and earth ponies living in it, there are roving bands of Hippos that control huge swaths of the river, being just as protective of there lands as a Buffalo with no chance of negotiations when you cross into them.

1 Minotaurs are actualy kind of neat in this, because they have a system that's sort of like a Morman/Greek hybrid. They mostly live in effectivly indipendent holdings run by minotaurs, but are also inhabited by goats, sheep, cows, ect. Effectivly, the Minotaurs protect said creatures, and in turn are supplied with wool, milk, cheese, ect.

A young minotaur, after he or she is near adulthood, sets out to learn as much about the nearby settlements as they are willing too, afterwords either returning or traveling abroad. This usualy gives them the basic impression that while minotaurs have a system that works for themselves, every race has there own way's to handle life's problems. The gist of this? Iron Will had a lot to learn about standing up for one's self, and is still learning. Also, he decided that ponies have a good idea in the whole "no pants/toga's" thing. :smalltongue:

[Soras Teva Gee]

That was when DC put him through his 'try too hard' phase because of all the terrible Aquaman before. Seriously hook hand and mullet.

That's not a mullet, a mullet involves the combination of short and long hair. Aquaman just wears his hair long in that series.


I really cannot understand why they gave such a good show such a dreadful intro sequence that it mostly put me off, and why the first set of episodes shown on CN here were such drivel, because every time someone links the highlights of the Brave and the Bold I end up cracking up and wishing I could have seen some of those episodes first.

Did the UK get a different intro or something? Otherwise you once again are proving yourself to have exceedingly narrow tastes, and/or engage in considerable hyperbolic melodrama towards anything you don't care for.


Comparitively sane one. Still kinda am, though Soras now is fairly well grounded, and Zevox too, when he's around.

I supposed that's true... by this place's standards....

[Luka]

Regarding Luka's indifference to Pony;
It's worth considering that if you click on the "Find all posts by user" button, you have to go back 5 pages to find a post in a thread that isn't directly pony related. And at least one of those two results on page 5 are about ponies. (Possibly both, but impossible to verify).

Luka doesn't visit the pony parts of the playground, he pretty much exclusively dwells in them.

I call massive boredom, used to play somewhere else, then I got here and I kinda liked hanging around while having no idea what is going on. :smallbiggrin:


But you're right, that's quite enough of this topic.

.....And thus comes another time without knowing what to do or posting anything.

[SiuiS]

We walked to a take-out restaurant nearby, and I was feeling nothing, so I think it's safe to say it didn't affect me. *And it's the second time it's happened since I moved. *His girlfriend and I had the same drink at Chili's on my birthday, and again, she was tore up, and I felt nothing.

Cool. I'd like to drink with you at some point then. I enjoy loose but still intelligent conversations :smallsmile:


I gave Blizzard the benefit of the doubt when Diablo 3 was released and everyone was complaining. *But ever since then, they've taken an extremely unbalanced game, and done nothing to actually fix it. *Certain mob abilities hitting too hard, gear drops not being consistent, everything. *They decided that Diablo 3 shouldn't be a diablo game, and took out multiple spawn points for treasure chests, got rid of gold dropping from certain breakable items, and pigeonholed everyone into the same talent choices, even though they claimed otherwise. *When they were developing the game, they said they wanted to fix higher difficulties, so that certain classes weren't at a disadvantage. *In Diablo 2, every monster in Hell had some kind of immunity, and for certain classes it made killing them impossible. *Instead, they gave elites and champions "affixes" like Nightmarish which fears, or arcane which drops rotating beams of death. *The combinations of these in higher difficulties (they get more as you go up) can cause them to basically be indestructible, or constantly keeping you controlled, or able to kill you within the span of a second. *And for melee like myself, you're forced to kite monsters around constantly, because all that I just mentioned applies to everything.

There's more, a lot more, but it's just pointless to complain anymore. *All that, in an extremely unbalanced game, and they're not even addressing it. *But oh god, players are farming gold from pots, and HOLY CRAP WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT NOW!!!

Wow. That sounds like they switched to the World of Warcraft model and weren't ready for the after effects. Although I suppose that's based entirely on camera view; Diablo 2 had the same problem but a birds eye view. Plenty of gold selling and such there.


From what I can gather, it's fairly normal among those who spend a lot of time trying to think like people they are not. Writers, roleplayers, that sort of thing.

I can relate to the idea, personally. When mulling over things I'll often create a figment to argue a side on whatever matter I'm thinking about. A sort of devil's advocate, I suppose. They aren't NPCs, or sentient, or even posses any characteristics beyond "will try to defend X point of view". They don't exist any longer than the time I spend arguing with myself and never get recreated. Although that last sentence implies more individuality and "thing-ness" than I want to communicate. Wish I had the vocabulary to discuss this better.

Anyway, I use this as a tool to counter emotional attachment to certain ideas. By compartimentalising the mind and viewing the part of me as not-quite-me, it's easier to detect and critically examine ideas that aren't so much true as simply things I want to be true. About half the time I just end up creating a strawman (which annoys me), but I'm often genuinely surprised at the arguments I make from the figment's perspective. Basically, it's like shoulder angel/devil that tries to reason instead of appeal to emotions.

I can easily see how this idea of compartimentalising the mind into different viewpoints can extend much further into creating full-blown independent personas, NPCs, tulpas or whatever. Personally, wouldn't want any. I have enough trouble wearing all the masks I wear, and I don't need another mannequin in the shop confusing matters further. :smalltongue:

I think you misunderstand the term NPC. It just means something internally consistent enough that cursory interaction can make you think it's a person. Nothing more.



.... you've been on these threads for Months, and you're still in the testing state? Jesus, you must be indecisive as hell.

Well, no. Consider the number of people that are here to talk to bronies and not to talk about ponies. We are a pretty swank bunch after all.

What's a fan of a fan? If a fan of ponies is a brony, what's a fan of bronies called?

Because that is probably what luka is :smallbiggrin:



So just insane, but pony themed. I see.


Sanity is a relevant and almost purely human construct. an elf cannot be sane because it's worldview has nothing to do with human societal interaction. In fact, a human with an elf's perspective would be drastically insane, just like an elf with a human viewpoint is insane.

The lich isn't insane, he just doesn't have any of the needs of a human so a mental paradigm which takes those needs into account is pretty eccentric.

Ponysanity is perfectly "sane" colloquially, given that we are ponies talking about ponies in a ponythread.



That's just nitpicky. Who doesn't like explosions? There's nothing that can't be made better by adding an explosion to it. Good Grades, Fighting, Birth, Car Rides, It's-A-Small-World-After-All, Food, everything!

Hi. I don't like explosions. They are wasteful in every sense of the word. They are inelegant and without being designed specifically to look good (fireworks) they are aesthetically displeasing. They achieve very little that can't be achieved better through some other means if you're willing to invest the time.



Depends. What's an IRC?


You're showing your youth :smalltongue:

Internet relay chat. It was the predominant chat room interface before AOL made their own, I believe.

Specifically, it's linked somewhere and takes you to a web page that lets you get on the ponythread IRC channel where a lot of us (and almost everypony who dropped out of the threads) hangs out.



Even though I hold quite a bit of faith in the "he's in denial" camp, I'll defend him. The two aren't constantly together. You can like one thing and not be a fan of it. I have a massive man-crush on Robert Downey Jr's Tony Stark, but that doesn't make me automatically a fan of him in general. I can occasionally enjoy eating a spicy pepper but they aren't on my list of favorite foods. My Rank 337 Standard Orbitars are Pimp Tastic and I love them, but Orbitars aren't my favorite weapon type in Kid Icarus Uprising.

For the most part, it's the additional Enthusiasm that helps mark one outright as a Fan, be it Fan from Fanatic, or Fan from Fancy. Changing one's life styles to suit the interest in question, continuous desire for external involvement with said interest, excet. These are details that help mark a fan as a fan, rather than someone with an interest, or even some positive feed.

Bull flop. You're crossing connotation an denotation. Yes, you're a fan of his presentation of iron man. Yes you're a fan of the weapon - fan doesn't mean it's your single utter favorite. I can split hairs just as well as you can. And I'll note you are using "Fan", capital F. You're starting from a faulty premise of a certain minimum amount of dedication above what is considered normal. That's not true.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/examples/7c1886fe.jpg
http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/examples/564b8e36.jpg


I want to hear how "Rainbow Dash is best pony" belies liking and enthusiasm. Seriously. Lay it on me.
You like the show. If you watch it, and show even as much enthusiasm as "wow, that was remarkably not terrible" (and yes, you are remarking on it, making it remarkable!) you are a fan. If you are specifically a fan of anything in pony culture, you are a brony. Very simple.

If you don't want to be called a brony? Fine. But we've given Luka a safe word. Tell us honestly and sincerely to stop, and we will. I don't think he has yet. I certainly don't remember it. And I've said it three or four times now.



And yet people do that all the time. :p


The number of murders committed all the time does not validate murder as an action to be taken. The number of people trying to win logic via force of personality alone does not make that okay, either. :smallwink:

Oh, and Yamcha was supposed to be pretty awesome, just overshadowed. Like poor Kuririn. Magnitudes stronger than any other human ever, and still a bumpkin.



I'm not a fan of those, and I go with Inoknownames about fandom, just liking it doesn't make you a fan, but liking and going further into it makes someone a fan, and I haven't done that with anything, except explosions and fights :smallbiggrin:

This deserves special mention. Forewarning; I'm in a bad mood.

[non-pony] [rant] [cantankerous]
Youre a fan of fights. Really? Try them.

I don't mean schoolyard scuffles, where limp wristed children jump around without any real ability to put their body weight into their lazy, handset haymakers.

I mean someone swinging a 2x4 at your head. Someone with a knife or a crowbar or four of his buddies, jackboots and a
Chip on his shoulder tryin to leave you in a mud hole. A real fight were everything is chaos, pain, proprioception and blood. Where the hydrostatic shock from a good kick to the torso can give you a concussion. Where a blow to the chest refers you breathless and immobile while what feels like a dozen limbs all try to break your bones one at a time.

Crawl out of a pile of bodies, of which you aren't even sure most are conscious or alive, where all it takes is pushing someone away when they try to knock you out in order to be arrested for fighting, where there are no goo choices. Go through that and tell me you're a fan of fighting.

Or perhaps you only like seeing others get into fights? You're going to tell me it's okay because it's not you and you're not getting hurt. Except for that's the most terrible sort of morals, where so Long as you come out clean everyone else can trot off. It okay to see other people of through hell for your amusement because you are amused.

Or perhaps it's only cartoons and such, where kids are taught that these actions and maneuvers are the right way to behave, where entire cultures ignore that even the most incidental strike can cripple you for months but that's okay because you're hot blooded! You're cool and willing to Stand up for what you believe! Why bother wing a better person an growing when you can threaten someone with life altering physical violence instead!

I'm so tired. Not in an angry way, but a weary way. I'm so tired of people responding to pony stuff with "That pony should have kicked that one guy's ass!". I really am. You know what pony brings me? Peace. It is a refreshing reminder that you can be peaceable, non violent, and still stick to your guns. That life is not ALPHA MALE **** YEAH BRO I TEABAGGED THAT MOTHER AND TOLD HIM I WOULD RAPE HIS SISTER versus the soft hearted losers. You can stop fighting and still win. And that is so very important


After 2 months of non-lurking I come back to hide in the shadows once more! Muhaha-ha!
I see you have a good coverage of Bronycon, I'll probably read up the previous thread when I have the time...

FIZMAT!
FIZMAT!
FIZMAT!

*group hug!*



Usually when the herbivores are mindless and dangerous they're regarded as a force of nature, not a slasher monster. Exactly because unlike carnivores they don't actively seek to destroy you.

If the story is about carnivores the pray can be:*

mindless and not dangerous, in which case you don't dwell on it. Walking to the fridge to get a hotdog is not that interesting.
mindless and dangerous, in which case it's like an work hazard or force of nature: not evil, not really scary, just can kill you
smart, dangerous and vengeful, like an elephant who never forgets to kill. Notice the vengeful part. Now this is a slasher monster, but notice how specific we need to be to get here!
sapient, in which case morality comes into play and everything gets complicated.


If the story is about herbivores the hunters can be:*

mindless/stupid, in which case they are not scary. Kinda like a work hazard again. Can be monsters, if the pray doesn't notice the hunter is stupid or is too scared to use its predictability.
smart monsters. Don't need to be vengeful, just hungry, which makes this kind of story much more prevalent.
sapient, in which case they're probably villains.


Thanks. I think I kinda lost abstraction there and got stuck in the examples.


Riki-tiki-tavi was positive and he's somewhat like a weasel. Then again, he eats snakes, not furry critters.

Yeah, a cobra doesn't drastically outweigh a mongoose, so I figured the commodore wouldn't care.



I thought Bleakbane was the sane one? That was a long time ago, now I'm not sure anymore.

We are a motley bunch of lunatics.
Except for those dirty Solarian imperialists. :P



I'm not sure what an "onf" is, but I want Pics, or it didn't happen, that you've survived being blown up since 4. That's usually a fatal experience, what with the 4th+ degree burns.

Oh lawdy there's only one explanation
Luka is Awakened >_<



[Not Trolling]Seriously though, that mindset (yours) is a good one. Don't feel bad about stuff. Do what feels natural to you and that you like. You're the one who has to live with your choices.[/Not Trolling]

Eh. Connotation and denotation are important things to keep separate. "I don't like the definition" doesn't change the definition. It didn't work with Tupac an his thug life, it's not gonna work here.



Eh, I got coddled when I was little. I wasn't quite ready to hang out with the big kids yet, and didn't come out of it very well... my brother was one of my biggest enemies for a while, but we've finally come back to basics.

Ditto. I just decided "Welp, I'm*Stuck as a man may as well*Be good at it" one day.

Too bad I missed the mark so badly...


I have never called anything my "waifu" and never will. *Also find it odd they would use that word, since it's mainly an anime thing.

Yeah. I'm... Not even sure what a waifu is. It's up there with wifey for me. Smacks too much of ownership and objectification for my liking.

-

In other news! I am in a strange predicament where I have more time than I'm*Used to, but that it's probably better for me not to do anything leisurely with it. So! In order to make progress on my stated goal o being more ponysane and less of a barely quiescent, raging jerk, I'm going to... Temporarily shelve my element. Go back to the fun pony stuff. Post smaller, and probably less frequently.

Oh, an Luka! Afore you get too upset, consider that if I didn't consider us a least amiable acquaintances, I wouldn't bother getting my knickers in a twist. If I didn't like you, I'd just ignore you. Friendship means not having to pull your punches after all :smallsmile:

[Beacon of Chaos]

Alright, I said I was going to post in the morning, but I clearly failed there. As an apology, have loads of Bronycon pictures (http://photobucket.com/DHbronycon2012)!

My highlights:

Meet the Ponies in the Playground!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_4953.jpg

A sighting of Mr. De Lancie up close.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_4952.jpg

Awesome fursuits (pretty much the only kind that don't creep me out)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_4959.jpg

Friends from The Other BoardTM (Canterlot.com meet up)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5008.jpg

A selection of awesome custom stuffed toys
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5017.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5020.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5033.jpg

Me and Pinkie!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5046.jpg

Etch-a-Sketch Derpy
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5044.jpg

TF2 Customs
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5029.jpg

Lauren Faust receives her gift
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5068.jpg
Faust: "How will I get this on the plane?"
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5070.jpg

Mah SWAG!
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5129.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5130.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5131.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5132.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5139.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5140.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/IMG_5142.jpg
(P.S. I was totally right guys! That's Jet Set at the bottom, NOT Fancy Pants. Fancy has blue hair and a monocle.)

And once again, me and Lauren. Just because.
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i93/DiegoHavoc/Bronycon%202012/Me_and_Lauren_Faust.jpg


Have you ever heard an author mention changing their mind because the characters refused to go along with their original intention? Have you ever encountered an actor who specifically internalized their character, rather than simply memorizing lines and stage directions? Have you ever, for that matter, met someone who applied one of the "WW*D (What Would [person] Do?)" maxims very broadly?
No, no, and no. I believe I've heard people such as Thanqol state that they've changed a story because they felt that it wasn't right for the characters, but I don't believe they ever stated that the character "refused" to cooperate.


Diego,
First, I want to leave your fears to rest, as best as I can.
-snip-
Okay, um, I don't know where to start. I guess I feel I'm okay with this now, so thank you (and everyone else who commented) for explaining. I'm still weirded out, but I guess I can accept that you're not crazy. ^^:

I think part of what's throwing me off with this is that I have a lot of trouble understanding other people, especially how they think. Hell, I barely understand myself sometimes. The idea of having an entity in my head that thinks differently to me, even if it's just an "NPC" and not a Tulpas/Thoughtform... I find it hard to fathom. I guess this is why I'm not a writer and why my roleplaying characters all end up similar to me.

I may or may not take you up on your PM offer. I think it's best I let this stuff sink in for a bit.


Still working on the Elements question! Have the first image. There'll be at least two more later tonight.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/188/7/d/pitp_tumblr__post_2__image_1_for_realsy_by_s_ertry on-d56egf9.png
Awwww, you used the old list. I'm element of Image Dumps now.

Speaking of which, I have a massive one coming up. Got a lot of material left over from before the con too.


Aha. No, actually. For one, I'm terrible at "normal".

Two, the infomation that would either allow it to make sense, or allow you to join in the silent scoffing from
The rest of the thread, is non-board appropriate. So I'll have to find you in the IRC, or something, but I assure you he is not saying he developed voices. He is saying he has basically created a spirit familiar.
I have never been on the IRC before, but I may get on at some point in the future.


If your choices are be bullied or be a bully, stay where you are.
I see.


This and a Tulpa are different processes however. A good NPC is more like remembering someone who meet existed. It's like guessing what your sister would do in any given situation.
Okay, I get ya.


SO Bronycon Doc latest update shows a time-lapsed videos of bronies entering the con (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/257527888/bronycon-the-documentary/posts/261948?ref=activity)


If you pause @1:33~1:34 you'll see a nicely captured frame of most of the Threadponies that attended.
Awesome!


Oh no, technically, I might be able to afford it if I travel cheap. It's more of the "flying on a plane all the way to America on my own, then working out what to do from there" thing that scares me. >_<
On your own? Nah. If you want to go, we'll go together. I'd much rather hang out with someone while I'm travelling.


Yeah, I was thinking about going actually, but it's a lot of money (travel, accommodation + tickets), which is why I might leave it for this year, see the feedback and reviews, if it's good, then I might try and go next year.
I know they have a bunch of special guests, a lot of people from the UKoEquestria forums are going.
I'm uncertain about it too now. I think the cost, plus how long it's been since Bronycon will be a bit much. I mean, if lots of us are going, we could probably split accomodation fees and stuff to keep costs down though.


Do Not Serve These Ponies (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35585/Do-Not-Serve-These-Ponies) now has cover art (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3595/theyaretheworst.png)!
Nice!

¬_¬ Still need to read it.


By the way, Diablo 3 is nothing but a big giant ragequit.

Eh, it ain't that bad. I was only a casual D2 player at the best of times, thought (I never even made it through Nightmare), so for me, D3 is perfectly fine. (Especially as I got it for only £22 quid, thank you Amazon...) It's a mildly entertaining thumping session, which is all I expected from it.
I'm in the same boat as the Commodore here. I played Monk to the end of Nightmare and found nothing wrong. I really can't be bothered with Hell. I've started a wizard too, and that's pretty good so far. For £22 I can't complain.

[gooddragon1]

Can someone else be the one to tell her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHCDO7pQjVc&feature=related) it's only 1d4+1 per missile capping at 5d4+5 (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicMissile.htm)?

[Luka]

Well, no. Consider the number of people that are here to talk to bronies and not to talk about ponies. We are a pretty swank bunch after all.

What's a fan of a fan? If a fan of ponies is a brony, what's a fan of bronies called?

Because that is probably what luka is :smallbiggrin:

That actually makes more sense :smallbiggrin:


Hi. I don't like explosions. They are wasteful in every sense of the word. They are inelegant and without being designed specifically to look good (fireworks) they are aesthetically displeasing. They achieve very little that can't be achieved better through some other means if you're willing to invest the time.

isn't that like... Elvish?....
I mean, elegance and aesthetics.... sound a bit like elven traits, don't they?

Somehow that made me think of how I compare ponies and humans like elves and dwarves :smallbiggrin:


Oh lawdy there's only one explanation
Luka is Awakened >_<

Um.....what? :smallconfused:


Oh, an Luka! Afore you get too upset, consider that if I didn't consider us a least amiable acquaintances, I wouldn't bother getting my knickers in a twist. If I didn't like you, I'd just ignore you. Friendship means not having to pull your punches after all :smallsmile:

not upset, you're obviously in a bad mood :smallwink:, I kinda think you forgot that I'm aware of the stuff in the rant and have reasons from differ to think that way.... I think I mentioned them, didn't I?....
Not putting them here now to prevent any more anger though.....

[Pendulous]

.....And thus comes another time without knowing what to do or posting anything.

Listen to crappy audio John de Lancie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBfz2-CKYTI

Fighting is Magic is being streamed http://da.twitch.tv/fightinggamebronies

[INoKnowNames]

I wanted to respond to stuff that was said since my last post... and I might get back to that... eventually....


Fighting is Magic is being streamed http://da.twitch.tv/fightinggamebronies

This, however, provides a massive block to my former intentions by being an incredibly distracting deterent, and a complete black-hole to my thoughts and emotions.I demand to know what this madness is. I see that it is a Street Fighter Archetype Game, but I want to know more. MORE, DAMN IT! MOAR! RITE NAO!

[Pendulous]

This, however, provides a massive block to my former intentions by being an incredibly distracting deterent, and a complete black-hole to my thoughts and emotions.I demand to know what this madness is. I see that it is a Street Fighter Archetype Game, but I want to know more. MORE, DAMN IT! MOAR! RITE NAO!

The voicing is impressive. I mean, the whole thing is, but it was nice to see really devoted voice actors.

[INoKnowNames]

The voicing is impressive. I mean, most of it is, but it was nice to see really devoted voice actors.

THAT DOES NOT SATISFY MY CURIOSITY!

EDIT: I DEMAND MY CURIOSITY BE SATISFIED!

[Strife Warzeal]

I wanted to respond to stuff that was said since my last post... and I might get back to that... eventually....



This, however, provides a massive block to my former intentions by being an incredibly distracting deterent, and a complete black-hole to my thoughts and emotions.I demand to know what this madness is. I see that it is a Street Fighter Archetype Game, but I want to know more. MORE, DAMN IT! MOAR! RITE NAO!

This is the development site, http://www.mane6.com/. I think it is still miles away from release though.

[INoKnowNames]

This is the development site, http://www.mane6.com/. I think it is still miles away from release though.

Thank you. Depressing to here... this is the kind of thing I'd totally brony for.

I saw at least 3 Level 3 Hyper Combos, and someone did the -SEXIEST- Air Combo I would have never considered coming from a Pony of all things...

This sits right with me. I want this. I want this oh so much.

[Pendulous]

Thank you. Depressing to here... this is the kind of thing I'd totally brony for.

I saw at least 3 Level 3 Hyper Combos, and someone did the -SEXIEST- Air Combo I would have never considered coming from a Pony of all things...

This sits right with me. I want this. I want this oh so much.

I'm more waiting for Pony Chronicles (formerly Pony RPG) (http://azurecrash.blogspot.com/p/info.html)

[INoKnowNames]

I'm more waiting for Pony Chronicles (formerly Pony RPG) (http://azurecrash.blogspot.com/p/info.html)

Rpgs aren't bad... but there is nothing like getting the blood flowing and breaking out a 20+ hit combo into a hyper combo... Fighting is Magic.... fighting is -VERY- Magical...

EDIT: OH MY GOD FREE ONLINE VERSUS MATCHES! SOMEONE WILL PLAY WITH ME PLEASE? YES?

[gooddragon1]

Rpgs aren't bad... but there is nothing like getting the blood flowing and breaking out a 20+ hit combo into a hyper combo... Fighting is Magic.... fighting is -VERY- Magical...

EDIT: OH MY GOD FREE ONLINE VERSUS MATCHES! SOMEONE WILL PLAY WITH ME PLEASE? YES?

Too busy with diablo 3.

EDIT: Also I was never able to use special maneuvers on any fighting game I played.

[Pendulous]

Rpgs aren't bad... but there is nothing like getting the blood flowing and breaking out a 20+ hit combo into a hyper combo... Fighting is Magic.... fighting is -VERY- Magical...

EDIT: OH MY GOD FREE ONLINE VERSUS MATCHES! SOMEONE WILL PLAY WITH ME PLEASE? YES?

I refuse to play a fighting (or FPS for that matter) game on the PC unless I can use a controller.

Too busy with diablo 3.



Too rage-inducing. I've given up on farming Inferno.

[INoKnowNames]

I refuse to play a fighting (or FPS for that matter) game on the PC unless I can use a controller.


Q: Are fightsticks/joysticks/controllers (PS2/3, Xbox 360, etc) supported?

A: Most windows-compatible controller devices should work with the game. However, since this is on a case-by-case basis, we can’t offer official support.

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[BlasTech]

Can someone else be the one to tell her (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHCDO7pQjVc&feature=related) it's only 1d4+1 per missile capping at 5d4+5 (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magicMissile.htm)?

This was both hillarious and awesome ... I dub it hillariawesome. :smallbiggrin:


Rpgs aren't bad... but there is nothing like getting the blood flowing and breaking out a 20+ hit combo into a hyper combo... Fighting is Magic.... fighting is -VERY- Magical...

EDIT: OH MY GOD FREE ONLINE VERSUS MATCHES! SOMEONE WILL PLAY WITH ME PLEASE? YES?

I think we have a standing commitment that ponythread will have a tournament once it's released. :smallamused:

[Pendulous]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Cool. NASCAR time, assuming this freaking stream works.

[INoKnowNames]

I think we have a standing commitment that ponythread will have a tournament once it's released. :smallamused:

.....

CANIBEINITCANIBEINITCANIBEINITPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPL EASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!?!

[Tvtyrant]

.....

CANIBEINITCANIBEINITCANIBEINITPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPL EASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!?!

I'm calling Rarity though, so you have to pick someone else. Swaggest character the game.

[INoKnowNames]

I'm calling Rarity though, so you have to pick someone else. Swaggest character the game.

From what I've seen so far, everyone but Apple Jack looks pretty tough....