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Mauril Everleaf
2006-12-26, 11:20 AM
I didnt see one posted, so i figured one may as well start it.

I was a bit confused by erf 11, but i was glad to see that sizemore rockwell has finally made his appearance.

.........aaaaaannnnnnd, discuss!

IronSoldier820
2006-12-26, 11:24 AM
Seems like a nice guy, doesn't make much sense for him to be with the bad guys though.

I didn't appreciate the humor though, I understood it but it was just too obvious. I mean, it would have been funnier if you had to think on it for more than two seconds. But I mean come on, Hippiemancers, flaking out, I was looking foward to something original.

Nerd-o-rama
2006-12-26, 11:24 AM
All I'm sayin' is, "Yay, Hippiemancers!"

Om
2006-12-26, 11:28 AM
Well I think the nature of Erfworld itself is becoming clearer. The map in the first panel was interesting to say the least. I wonder just what Sizemore was learning, or trying to learn, from Janis.

The hippy jokes weren't bad either :smallsmile:

With Sizemore out of the way my money is on Jillian being the next Plaid Warlord

KillerCardinal
2006-12-26, 12:00 PM
Hehe, loved this one, especially with the hippiemancers.

My first thought when I saw the island though, was "Oh oh oh oh, its the Lemmings 2: The Tribes island!" Did anybody else think that?

Ironfist Orc
2006-12-26, 12:05 PM
Well I think the nature of Erfworld itself is becoming clearer. The map in the first panel was interesting to say the least. I wonder just what Sizemore was learning, or trying to learn, from Janis.

The hippy jokes weren't bad either :smallsmile:

Assuming that Croakamancy has a "black" color scheme, that'd put them directly opposite the Hippiemancers ... And I'd guess that the brown next to the Hippies is the Dirtomancer space ... So why is Sizemore working with the Gobwin Knob forces?

Doshi
2006-12-26, 12:17 PM
Iron Fist Orc, according to the cast page, Sizemore is a member of the "(nearly lost) Plaid tribe." So maybe he's working for the Plaid tribe simply because he was born into the Plaid tribe.

IronSoldier820
2006-12-26, 12:42 PM
Hippiemancers are most likely of a rainbow sort of magic, which includes all colors. Even black. So its not like the Hippiemancers are the opposites of the Croakamancers.

Khantalas
2006-12-26, 12:46 PM
But they reside in the green area. They can't be rainbow-ish.

AyuVince
2006-12-26, 12:59 PM
My opinion on Erfworld 11: Wanda has a nice ass. *cough*

No, seriously, the Magic Kingdom looks like it's divided by colors, much like the magic of Magic: The Gathering. Should prove interesting to see what the other 'mancers are like.

ElfLad
2006-12-26, 01:17 PM
Erfworld has been fairly consistently amusing, but this was the first one to make me actually laugh out loud.

Aliquid
2006-12-26, 02:16 PM
Hippiemancers are most likely of a rainbow sort of magic, which includes all colors. Even black. So its not like the Hippiemancers are the opposites of the Croakamancers.Well... not really.

Black isn't in the rainbow, and it isn't a colour.

Mauril Everleaf
2006-12-26, 02:22 PM
well black is as much a color as white is. black is jsut the mixture of all colors and white is the abscence of all colors while retaining opacity. and as far as the opposite of croakamancers, i would say the as yet unseen healamancers would be. two different sides of the same coin, healing and uncroaking.

Khantalas
2006-12-26, 02:26 PM
Actually, color and optics really get confusing after a while. Especially because when you mix all colors, you get black and when you mix all light wavelengths, you get white.

ArmorArmadillo
2006-12-26, 02:30 PM
Still not laugh out loud...but at least it dropped the "mispelling" shtick. The druids are hippies gag was decent.

But really, I think this episode did have a decent level of story advancement, if EW stays at this pace, it should progress better than it has so far.

I don't think I've really laughed once so far during EW, but I'm beggining to have a little more faith in it as a story series.

Mauril Everleaf
2006-12-26, 02:39 PM
i assumed color = pigment not wavelength. although i almost put in that very fact khan. hmmm, methinks i should have now, to allay confusion.

ldog
2006-12-26, 02:55 PM
I'd like to know how Wanda went from being under attack by a Dwagon at Gobwin Knob to looking for Sizemore. It's like a whole chunk of story just went missing.

ETA: To me the Magic Kingdom colour thing is also a joke about how amusement park maps (like Disney's Magic Kingdom) are divided into theme areas, with each area having a seperate colour scheme on the map.

Om
2006-12-26, 03:53 PM
I'd like to know how Wanda went from being under attack by a Dwagon at Gobwin Knob to looking for Sizemore. It's like a whole chunk of story just went missing.I'd assume via either a spell or the "Portal Park" that Sizemore referred to. Incidentally that may, or may not, be the city at the centre of the map.

Mauril Everleaf
2006-12-26, 04:01 PM
actually, she wasnt under dwagon attack. bogroll was being used as target practice (note "parasol painted like a bull's-eye") and she happened to walk in to it. so after the target practice was over, over the next few turns, she was able to get to "the magic kingdom".

WarriorTribble
2006-12-26, 08:07 PM
I thought the hippie teacher looked completly stressed. Wonder if that's somehow relevant to the plot cause I thought she'd be the sterotypical doped up 'what will be will be' hippie.

dauvis
2006-12-26, 08:24 PM
My first thought when I saw the island though, was "Oh oh oh oh, its the Lemmings 2: The Tribes island!" Did anybody else think that?

For some reason I thought trivial pursuit... but I am wierd.

chionophile
2006-12-26, 08:58 PM
Still not laugh out loud...but at least it dropped the "mispelling" shtick.


He didn't "drop" it, it just wasn't necessary for this particular comic. There is a pattern to what gets misspelled and this strip didn't need any of those words.

With that out of the way, "hippiemancers". Heh. I did literally laugh out loud when I saw that. Well done. Didn't catch the druid thing though, good call.

SacredStorm
2006-12-26, 09:22 PM
For some reason I really enjoyed how the ocean was also color coded. I wonder if it means anything...

I think it could hint that the world of Erfworld may not be circular. My reason is that it just wouldn't look good visually if the colors collided with each other. (Unless the new colors formed would create an island or something.) Besides that, the colored waters can merely just stop being colorful, or they go on like that indefinitely.

I just guess that picture triggered a strange train of thought in my head. Oh well!

Wolfie_1066
2006-12-26, 09:52 PM
Well I think the nature of Erfworld itself is becoming clearer. The map in the first panel was interesting to say the least. I wonder just what Sizemore was learning, or trying to learn, from Janis.

The hippy jokes weren't bad either :smallsmile:

With Sizemore out of the way my money is on Jillian being the next Plaid Warlord

i thought Jillian was the character with Ansem so i think its going to be a surprise

quick edit: there are Findamancers and predictamancers you know those with dirtomancers crocomancers and hippiemancers make 5. 3 more we have no idea about

Mr_Teatime
2006-12-26, 10:02 PM
Am I the only one who thought of Janis Joplin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janis_Joplin) when they saw the instructor?

Big_Robot
2006-12-26, 11:18 PM
I liked the idea of Flower Power crumbling time perception...funny!

Rpgfish
2006-12-27, 12:30 AM
Sorry, but I haven't laughed at any of the comics yet. I'm waiting, though. Right now, I'm just confused. There are too many similar-looking characters and places.

Sorry, the next part isn't going to be directly related to #11.
Was the twoll that was reported by Lillian Bogroll, or just some random twoll sitting in a field? Were the uncroaked there on the twoll's side?

Mr Wizard
2006-12-27, 01:07 AM
I think the colors of the Magic Kingdom are divided like this:

Based on Fantasy standards:

Croakamancers: Because they are like Necromancers

Hippiemancers: " " " " Druids

Dirtomancers: The color of dirt

And based on no evidence, I am guessing (betting):

Findamancer

Predictamancer

Lookamancer: From page 8 "...Because you have no Lookamancers."-Jillian

Leaving only two lands:

Red Land: Maybe a "Torchamancer" land.

Teal Land: No clue

chionophile
2006-12-27, 02:17 AM
Sorry, but I haven't laughed at any of the comics yet. I'm waiting, though. Right now, I'm just confused. There are too many similar-looking characters and places.

Sorry, the next part isn't going to be directly related to #11.
Was the twoll that was reported by Lillian Bogroll, or just some random twoll sitting in a field? Were the uncroaked there on the twoll's side?

Bogroll only has one eye and he's back at Stanley's headquarters. And yes, the uncroaked were on the same team as the twoll. Basically, if it looks undead and/or ugly, it probably belongs to Stanley. If it's cute and fuzzy wuzzy, it's probably Ansom's.

Not sure how you're getting characters mixed up (aside from general twolls vs. Bogroll. That's understandable). The good guys (Jillian, Ansom) are blond and the bad guys (Wanda, Stanley) are darker. There's a primary guy and girl on each team. That's about it right now.

Ezbez
2006-12-27, 05:38 AM
Okay, I've enjoyed this one. Hippiemancers made me laugh, and the magic kingdom was rather comical. Is that gowbin knob there in the center?

Nad
2006-12-27, 06:40 AM
It seemed to me that Janis was charmed. Then again maybe she's just been sharing some halfling weed with Gandalf... but anyway, it looked like Sizemore took Janis's bag.

Maybe Hippiemancers can teach you how to charm people or just put them into a "flakey" state... after learning how, Sizemore put her into a charm or flaked her out... that's why he would tell her she's a good teacher.

All I know is that these comics are starting to irritate me. I don't feel like I'm left on the edge of my seat but more left in the dark. Maybe there will be a prologue that goes back and explains... like in Record of Lodoss Wars... but I have a feeling that I'm guessing wrong :smallfrown:

squeakyreaper
2006-12-27, 08:31 AM
Hippiemancers?

...

Awesome! Bring on the Flower Power and the 'Groovy Peace Pipe', man!

Sebastian Bux
2006-12-27, 08:47 AM
I'm going to reserve comment until Erfworld 15...

grinner666
2006-12-27, 10:03 AM
Did anybody else notice that the hippiemancers gave Sizemore ... the munchies? I love this comic! I don't get half the jokes until later, but I LOVE this strip!!! :tongue:

*giggles and skips away*

DeathQuaker
2006-12-27, 10:36 AM
The "Mighty Wind" quote made me laugh and giggle so as to disturb my neighbors. That I would find a reference to that in a gaming comic pleases and amuses me to no end. Yay!

Mauril Everleaf
2006-12-27, 10:47 AM
It seemed to me that Janis was charmed. Then again maybe she's just been sharing some halfling weed with Gandalf... but anyway, it looked like Sizemore took Janis's bag.

Maybe Hippiemancers can teach you how to charm people or just put them into a "flakey" state... after learning how, Sizemore put her into a charm or flaked her out... that's why he would tell her she's a good teacher.

actually i think you have that reversed. i think he was handing her a bag of money, the 20 Rand he said she deserved for teaching him. due to the static animation of the comic, its kinda hard to tell, but thats what i inferrred. also, he was telling her she was a good teacher, although he didnt learn anything, because he is weak and spineless (see bio) and thats what people like that do. they tend to be apologetic and complimenting, assuming that whatever went wrong was their fault.

Doug Lampert
2006-12-27, 12:09 PM
Okay, I've enjoyed this one. Hippiemancers made me laugh, and the magic kingdom was rather comical. Is that gowbin knob there in the center?I tend to assume that Gobwin Knob isn't in the magic kingdom, and hence isn't on that map.

Evidence:
1)
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/erf0005.html
"I've been to the Magic Kingdom" is a silly thing to say if Gobwin Knob is in the Magic Kingdom.

2) Portal Park not being very far implies that they will next go through some sort of magical portal.

DougL

Manga Shoggoth
2006-12-27, 03:54 PM
(sigh)... Why do I have visions of the Young Ones playing Trivial Pursuit now?

Azukar
2006-12-27, 09:36 PM
Argh, I'm still confused... So the Hippiemancers are druids, right? But we're not coming from a D&D reference... Seems I don't play enough RPGs to know what the heck this comic's on about.

Still. I'm giving it a chance.

AngryGreek
2006-12-28, 01:51 AM
Sigh, just when I say I'll give it more of a chance....

I did say that I would wait it out though, so I will forgive this episode and wait and see how it was (hopefully) necessary for the progression of the story.

nobodez
2006-12-28, 02:13 AM
I liked it. I missed the "Mighty Wind" joke, but then again, I didn't actually see the movie. I like that the jokes work on many levels, and I've played enough RTS/TBS games to get those jokes, and enough RPGs to get those, just not all of the movie jokes.

I guess I need to pump more ranks into knowledge (popular culture).

Jorkens
2006-12-28, 10:24 AM
Argh, I'm still confused... So the Hippiemancers are druids, right? But we're not coming from a D&D reference... Seems I don't play enough RPGs to know what the heck this comic's on about.
FWIW, I've only played a couple of RPG's (literally a couple, not 'a couple' as in twelve) and that was some time ago, and I've played almost no RTS / whatever, and I still seem to be getting what it's about to the extent that I'm not clear what there is not to get. As far as the humour goes, it seems to be more about having a specific sort of sense of humour rather than knowing a particular sort of game. And the story seems to be more about not being bothered that certain things aren't immediately explained and following the plot on its own terms. What's confusing you?

Oh, and people seem to be talking about 'bad guys' again, but I've still not seen Stanley's mob doing anything much more evil than not being blond haired and blue eyed...

Specific to the latest comic, I love the way that (afaict) Sizemore seems to be a dirtomancer who's tried to learn some hippiemancy and although his heart's in the right place, from the looks of him he's just been too 'square' to really get it. And he knows it.

And yes, I'm guessing that the portal park is the thing in the middle of the island by which you travel to and from the magic kingdom.

Doug Lampert
2006-12-28, 11:24 AM
Argh, I'm still confused... So the Hippiemancers are druids, right? But we're not coming from a D&D reference... Seems I don't play enough RPGs to know what the heck this comic's on about.

Still. I'm giving it a chance.I see no reason to assume Hippiemancers are Druids or anything like Druids.

Mauril Everleaf
2006-12-28, 11:54 AM
well, if you assume druid means the nature based battle cleric from dnd or the warlike magic-users of celtic society, then yes there is no reason to call them druids. but if you assume that druids are nature loving, free spirits (much like modern druidism is, iirc) then hippiemancers are very much like druids. not saying that they are, just that its possible to assume such.

Khantalas
2006-12-28, 11:57 AM
Druids are tree huggers. And I'm sure Hippiemancers hug something.

Though they are most likely different things.

TinSoldier
2006-12-28, 01:32 PM
Am I the only one who thought of Janis Joplin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janis_Joplin) when they saw the instructor?Nope. You are not alone in that.

Hmm. This one and number 12 (which just came up as I write this) are a bit confusing to me. Well, this one is anyway.

Still love the comic and I'm sure I'll get it better as more pages are published.

Ironfist Orc
2006-12-28, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Doshi
Iron Fist Orc, according to the cast page, Sizemore is a member of the "(nearly lost) Plaid tribe." So maybe he's working for the Plaid tribe simply because he was born into the Plaid tribe.


Oh, yes ... Tribes ... well at least I was the first to bring up the "opposing color/magic" wheel that was completely obvious...


Originally posted by Mr Wizard
Findamancer

Predictamancer

Lookamancer: From page 8 "...Because you have no Lookamancers."-JillianI wonder if "Lookamancer" is slang for Findamancers and/or Predictamancers.

CrossP
2006-12-28, 07:47 PM
I see no reason to assume Hippiemancers are Druids or anything like Druids.

They have power derived from flowers? They are perhaps fueled by the use of certain weeds?

Hippiemancers get paid in Rands while lookamancers get paid in Schmuckers? I'm betting there's an Ayn Rand joke that I'm missing because I know nothing of her philosophies.

Om
2006-12-28, 08:20 PM
Hippiemancers get paid in Rands while lookamancers get paid in Schmuckers? I'm betting there's an Ayn Rand joke that I'm missing because I know nothing of her philosophies.
I find it hard to equate Rand to hippies, to my mind she's the anti-hippy. Which might in itself say something. IIRC though the rand is currently the currency of South Africa.

Schmucker means nothing to me.