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wodan46
2007-01-04, 06:15 AM
Given the unlikelihood of the modern world playing a significant role, it looks like we have found our mighty warlord. Discuss.

Oh, and I'm sure that another bunch of whiny losers will jump the erfworld boat because they can't stand having a modern world character involved. Personally, I wonder how they're going to play our warlord's personality, for that is a pretty critical element in deciding how the story will play out and feel.

MinusInnocence
2007-01-04, 06:22 AM
Damn that was fast like the Dickens. I didn't believe you at first.

I suspect that he will be totally awesome, given that he is actually outside of Erfworld looking in; not omnipotent by any means (unless he's writing it), and not even omniscient, but pretty darn close. Especially if he can press pause or load from an earlier save point.

Money well spent, in my opinion.

Jalathas
2007-01-04, 06:36 AM
Hey, I have that issue! First copy of Dragon Magazine I ever bought. Also, anyone check that website he was looking at? It's a webcomic, but I don't know if it means anything, or if it was just a coincidence.

Ikkitosen
2007-01-04, 06:39 AM
So , a great warlord because he has a greater understanding of the rules of the game/world maybe?

TheAnimal
2007-01-04, 06:50 AM
:eek: Apparently, Erfworld will never cease to surprise me.
So now we're back in Kansas?
Wonder how this will play into the story of our -tagonists, pro- and an- alike? :confused:

Ashildr_the_Bard
2007-01-04, 06:53 AM
You know that room looks oddly familiar...*looks around* Oh.

smellie_hippie
2007-01-04, 07:05 AM
That one... um... caught me off guard. Not what I expected, but since I post on Erfworld (checks log history) never, I don't have room to rant. meh.

*still following comic*

Siberys
2007-01-04, 07:14 AM
Looks like it is a turn-based strategy. I have just started playing a couple myself, and though computer games aren't my schtick, they're pretty good.

Erfworld's going well. now I can forgive the cutesy-talk and odd proprtions of people, due to the fact that they aren't exactly real in the comic.

I'm still following, and it's not bad, but it's still third place as far as my favorite webcomics, and I only read three. Here's to hoping it gets better!

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Narthon the Bold
2007-01-04, 07:22 AM
Something Positive reference? All is forgiven.

Hart av Srednak
2007-01-04, 07:29 AM
Didn't see it coming.. but I like it.

*thinking about all posibilities*

This is goping to be fun.

I wouldn't wan't to face _The_Perfect_Warlord_ from _All_Exictance_ in any strategy game ever. I hate getting all beaten. Still I would like to see how he manages to live in game world.. not just master its mechanics from outside. I bet that Jillan and Zanda aren't going to fall on his feets just because he TBW.

charles
2007-01-04, 07:39 AM
http://www.hamstard.com (http://www.hamstard.com)

BWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAA

I don't know what it is but the humour of that comic referenced in ERFWORLD 14 just hit me.

I'm guessing the guy is the creator (who appears to be "Parson Gotti" AKA "LORD HAMSTER")

NoldorForce
2007-01-04, 07:50 AM
The intriguing thing is that I recognized the back cover of the magazine instantly, but not the front (which still isn't difficult to guess, given other comments). It's from the cover of the third Book of Eldritch Might (The Nexus).

The whole you're-in-a-turn-based-game thing didn't surprise me, but showing off someone distinctly involved in it will likely prove interesting.

charles
2007-01-04, 07:54 AM
Warning: you may not want to look up a link for "Stile Project" mentioned in ERFWORLD 14.

Just my advice unless you like that sort of web material.

GKBeetle
2007-01-04, 08:02 AM
I actually was thinking at first that the guy in the comic was the writer of Erfworld, and that this was his way of saying that he was going to stop making it since it isn't getting enough traffic, or something. Now that I read this stuff on here, I don't think that anymore. I'm glad, because I want to see how this whole story pans out and it would suck if he stopped now.

TheAnimal
2007-01-04, 08:05 AM
Warning: you may not want to look up a link for "Stile Project" mentioned in ERFWORLD 14.

What's a S...

*google!*

...oh. :eek:

charles
2007-01-04, 08:06 AM
I remember seeing a comic in 2000AD that finished up with the creater suddenly switching to themselves and basically saying "uh, I can't be bothered with this any more". It then switched back to the comic where she killed the entire cast... THE END

Wallyz
2007-01-04, 08:08 AM
Don't you work at Kinko's, Jami?

charles
2007-01-04, 08:09 AM
http://www.somethingpositive.net/

Another web comic that ERFWORLD 14 may have referenced to.

By someone called R.K.Milholland

Hey! I warned you about the Stile Project. Figured I could save others from googling it like I did but I think I just encouraged it *shakes head* sorry.

charles
2007-01-04, 08:23 AM
http://goblinscomic.com/

ANOTHER ONE. First link up the top with a google search for "Goblins".

This one by someone called "Tarol Hunt".

Looks pretty cool

charles
2007-01-04, 08:42 AM
http://asivt.livejournal.com/

Not 100% certain but the "Girls Gone Feral" link could be this web comic by "Katie Fedigan-Linton"

Might take some more searching to find this one but then again it could just be a crude reference to a sex site using a display name *shrug*

Om
2007-01-04, 08:47 AM
Well this is an interesting turn of events. My original thought was that the metagame predictions were true - this is that Erfworld was just a boardgame being played somewhere, but like like the OP's explanation better. As I said, interesting.

charles
2007-01-04, 08:56 AM
I think "Hart Av Srednak" got it right.

This guy is the ultimate WARLORD! from across all dimensions.

Notice how he's certainly no "prettyboy" like Stanly would have picked. Wonder if he'll stay looking like he is or be transformed for ERFWORLD.

Shikton
2007-01-04, 08:59 AM
Why doesn't he have giantitp.com bookmarked? :(

Hart av Srednak
2007-01-04, 09:01 AM
Damn that was fast like the Dickens. I didn't believe you at first.

I suspect that he will be totally awesome, given that he is actually outside of Erfworld looking in; not omnipotent by any means (unless he's writing it), and not even omniscient, but pretty darn close. Especially if he can press pause or load from an earlier save point.

Money well spent, in my opinion.

I put my money in different horse.

I bet that:
He is outside Erworld at the moment (if he even is Erfworld player.. he just needs to be perfect warlord w means starategy game super geekery and talent) but will be sucked in with that summoning spell. So much for loadings and savings. Besides perfect warlord wouldn't need savings and genetic engineerings.:smallwink:

MrNexx
2007-01-04, 09:03 AM
I liked the Jonathon Coulton reference in the song...

TheAnimal
2007-01-04, 09:19 AM
This guy is the ultimate WARLORD! from across all dimensions.
Whether he really is the Ultimate Warlord or just gets summoned because Wanda, you know, "Efdup" the spell, I think Team Plaid is in for a major disappointment.
Definitely not what they'd be expecting.

P.S. Did i just hear the term "self-insertion"?

Goldie1980
2007-01-04, 09:26 AM
I'm intrigued...

Still sticking around.:smallamused:

Siberys
2007-01-04, 09:30 AM
I love the "Jesus Saves" sticker. I've been looking to buy one of 'em myself, as well as the shirt.

I also like the D&D stuff in the game room.

If it weren't for the videogames, television, and dirtiness (I'm a clean freak when it comes to my living space), that room reminds me of my normal D&D setup. :smallcool:

I like how it switches between cartoony for Erfworld and realistic for RL. And it explains the inclusion of internet memes, peeps, etc.

Maybe this guy should be added to the Profile page?

jami
2007-01-04, 10:03 AM
Don't you work at Kinko's, Jami?

Heh, saints be praised, no. I work at an e-learning company in Alexandria, VA doing Flash animation and graphics. All our stuff is for the Department of Defense so no real fun. Still, it pays the bills and lets me eat so I guess that's good.:smallbiggrin:

Axorcist
2007-01-04, 10:05 AM
:belkar: *So many questions...*

I cought Beck - Loser as the first song. I don't recognize the second song, maybe someone mentioned it, I'm not sure.

I persist that my lord and savior has evasion and takes no damage when he saves.

Goblins ... angry hamsters (here's something equally inappropreate http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8295413979557280046&q=harry+hamster&hl=en) ... which leaves one more question - what the hell is going on?! Must know now! Bloody weekend cliffhangers...

Bishop
2007-01-04, 10:14 AM
I was a little shocked by the return to 1998, Kinko's hasn't been around and used those colors since then. The buyout is 2000 changed everything.

Great comic btw, I'm enjoying all the minor punchlines and the build-up.

Beelzebub1111
2007-01-04, 10:14 AM
Maybe he's unbeatale as a strategist, or the spell was miscast.

jami
2007-01-04, 10:20 AM
I was a little shocked by the return to 1998, Kinko's hasn't been around and used those colors since then. The buyout is 2000 changed everything.

Great comic btw, I'm enjoying all the minor punchlines and the build-up.

Yeah, I figured that out after I had already drawn the apron on the guy. So I hoped no one would notice. I guess the explanation would be that this particular Kinkos never got the memo.

But thank you for the compliment.

Mauril Everleaf
2007-01-04, 10:20 AM
I was very thrown off and confused by this episode, so I immediately hopped over here to look at the discussion thread to try and get a guess at what it means. I agree that this slob may be the great warlord that Wanda summons. Mind you that she advised that since she is not a Lookamancer that things may go awry. I vote that this is awry. I'm interested to see how he will interact with the Erfworldites and how he himself will be transformed. Hmmmmm......

TinSoldier
2007-01-04, 10:26 AM
http://goblinscomic.com/

ANOTHER ONE. First link up the top with a google search for "Goblins".

This one by someone called "Tarol Hunt".

Looks pretty coolYes! Goblins is my favorite webcomic! Woohoo! That really stoked me when I read the current Erfworld. Mad props to the writers of Erfworld!


Why doesn't he have giantitp.com bookmarked? :(Yeah, I found that a bit anomalous myself...

Interesting update...

Lefty the Drunken Lush
2007-01-04, 10:26 AM
I'm intrigued...

Still sticking around.:smallamused:

Still lost...

Still sticking around.

daffyinthehead
2007-01-04, 10:30 AM
C'mon, a guy like that using IE? What are the chances?

But actually, this installment has made me 10x more excited about this comic, and I was already heavily interested. Can't wait til Tuesday!

Bishop
2007-01-04, 10:31 AM
Jami--

It's just because I resemble a remark cast disparagingly at you earlier...Keep up the great work.

jami
2007-01-04, 10:40 AM
Jami--

It's just because I resemble a remark cast disparagingly at you earlier...Keep up the great work.

Durrr, it's too early in the morning for me to get jokes. DOH!

Jacklu
2007-01-04, 10:41 AM
A very interesting comic. It definatly "Grows the brand" whatever that means.... as for this guy's relation to Hamstard, note the posters:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/Jacklu/Clipboard02.gif
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/Jacklu/Clipboard01.gif

either this guy is Lord Hamster, or he is a big fan of the comic.

WampaX
2007-01-04, 10:43 AM
So, he also has a cat.
Just noticed it lying in the window in the first three panels. Good job on hiding it in plain sight, there Jami.

WarriorTribble
2007-01-04, 10:43 AM
Hmm... a a geeky person teleports into a world of wonder where his knowledge is useful, nay vital to save the day? Ah well guess I'll wait and see what happens.

And from the trivial nitpicking dept: *cough* OH NOES! a geek using IE to access the net! BLASPHEMY!

EmeraldRose
2007-01-04, 10:46 AM
I find myself getting more and more intrigued as the comic goes on...

TinSoldier
2007-01-04, 10:47 AM
So, he also has a cat.
Just noticed it lying in the window in the first three panels. Good job on hiding it in plain sight, there Jami.Cat? I thought it was the Hamster poster mentioned here:


A very interesting comic. It definatly "Grows the brand" whatever that means.... as for this guy's relation to Hamstard, note the posters:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/Jacklu/Clipboard02.gif
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/Jacklu/Clipboard01.gif

either this guy is Lord Hamster, or he is a big fan of the comic.

Jacklu
2007-01-04, 10:50 AM
Yeah, those are posters of the hamster from hamstard (http://www.hamstard.com/).

Varen_Tai
2007-01-04, 10:51 AM
The zombie song is from Jonathan Coulton, which someone already mentioned. It's hilarious. Been a fan for a while.

Linky! (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/lyrics/re-your-brains)

WampaX
2007-01-04, 10:54 AM
Cat? I thought it was the Hamster poster mentioned here:

It is indeed a poster (the crinckled corner gives that away) . . . but it still looks like a cat to me.

charles
2007-01-04, 11:01 AM
It is indeed a poster (the crinckled corner gives that away) . . . but it still looks like a cat to me.

Check out http://www.hamstard.com/

and tell me the poster isn't the bottom of that Hamster. If you look at the web link he's hovering over, I believe it's a reference to this, and the poster should verify that.

Actually if you go back a few comics in "Hamstard" you'll see one of the sleeping "Hamstard" which resembles what you think is a sleeping cat. It's just another poster but with the hamster in a different pose.

Khayyinn
2007-01-04, 11:03 AM
I cought Beck - Loser as the first song. I don't recognize the second song, maybe someone mentioned it, I'm not sure.


As MrNexx above alluded to: the second song is by Jonathan Coulton and is entitled 'Re Your Brains'

http://www.jonathancoulton.com/

- edit: beaten by Varen Tai...

Om
2007-01-04, 11:38 AM
I just noticed the map/wargame open on the table in the third last panel. Could this be Erfworld?

Rawhide
2007-01-04, 12:14 PM
It is indeed a poster (the crinckled corner gives that away) . . . but it still looks like a cat to me.
Its hamstard (http://www.hamstard.com/?strip_id=29). And again (http://www.hamstard.com/?strip_id=30).

arch
2007-01-04, 12:20 PM
Heh, is that Hawk (http://www.applegeeks.com) I see in the Kinko's? (The Apple Store next door better up their security measures)

Tyrmadris
2007-01-04, 12:28 PM
Well, I'm inclined to believe that this fellow is, in fact, "Lord Hamster." Notice the link in the comic. It says "Hamstard.com traffic stats." A rabid, geeky fan would keep his favorite comic on his links, but hardly link to an overgrown hit counter just to see how many times the page has been accessed. A rabid, geeky comic writer, on the other hand, might be very interested in seeing how many people have visited his work by linking directly to the hosting page that gives its stats. Makes sense to me.

Not quite sure if this is, in fact, the target of the spell. It seems likely he could be their perfect warlord, but it could also be that he is the player of their faction. He could be the person running the game who is represented by Lord Stanely. All the other teams have finished their turns and it is now his. Of course, this isn't as likely as the 'guy gets sucked into game' scenario, since it would seem that he would be vastly more competant than Stanley has been protrayed. But then again, he might just be really good at it and goofing off in the early turns or using some strange, obscure strategy. We've seen that Stanley has lost many Warlords so far, but has had Wandra uncroak them all... it's entirely possible he's trying to form an entire legion of Uncroaked Warlords as a sort of super-powered force due to loopholes in the game rules (I'm sure they'd be more powerful than most 'standard' uncroaked infantry, at least).

The questions now are... is this the target of the spell? And, if so, is he the correct target, or the target of a botched spell that pulls him through?

Om
2007-01-04, 12:35 PM
Its hamstard (http://www.hamstard.com/?strip_id=29). And again (http://www.hamstard.com/?strip_id=30).
And again (http://www.hamstard.com/?strip_id=23)

Why? Because that strip cracks me up.

Captain van der Decken
2007-01-04, 12:42 PM
I use IE!

I like the references. Especially the Coulton one, and the Jesus saves bumper sticker.

TinSoldier
2007-01-04, 12:44 PM
And again (http://www.hamstard.com/?strip_id=23)

Why? Because that strip cracks me up.Yeah, that one is great!

Sebastian Bux
2007-01-04, 12:44 PM
:shakes head.

Must ... wait ... til issue ... 15 ...

robinmotion
2007-01-04, 12:50 PM
Why doesn't he have giantitp.com bookmarked? :(

First: Because that'd be way too self-referential. People would blast Rob and Jamie for stroking their own egos. Not to mention it would create a weird meta-effect where a guy existed in a comic that existed in the comic that existed in . . . and so on.

Second: This guy seems a little too serious and, umm, pretentious, maybe? for Order of the Stick.

And on an unrelated note to the bookmarking, but a vague reference . . . Thomas Covenant, anyone?

ref
2007-01-04, 12:51 PM
Jesus saves and takes half damage, hehe. Reminds me of something I read some time ago: Jesus saves after he passes each level. hehe.

ElfLad
2007-01-04, 12:58 PM
Oooh, clever. Although looking at the Hamstard forum dates, I know this is all an elaborate ruse.

Om
2007-01-04, 01:06 PM
Jesus saves and takes half damage, hehe. Reminds me of something I read some time ago: Jesus saves after he passes each level. hehe.
Jesus saves. But Shearer scores on the rebound!

Of course I saw that piece of graffiti a few years ago when Shearer was still playing, and at his peak.

ArmorArmadillo
2007-01-04, 01:38 PM
Ok, this is the first interesting (albiet bizarre) development in the Erfworld storyline.

My interest is now piqued.

(I'm sure this is an example of a messed up spell, as no guy into Furry porn could possibly be an elite anything.)

motorfirebox
2007-01-04, 01:44 PM
IE? no wonder he's a loser! (burrrrrrrn!)

Rask
2007-01-04, 02:18 PM
Is that a Penny Arcade Fruitf*cker I see on the table?

WampaX
2007-01-04, 02:25 PM
Jami, any reason why you used the treble clef, or G clef, symbol instead of a musical note in panel 4? Its very odd seeing it used as a visual cue for musical notes since it is not one itself.

jami
2007-01-04, 02:33 PM
Jami, any reason why you used the treble clef, or G clef, symbol instead of a musical note in panel 4? Its very odd seeing it used as a visual cue for musical notes since it is not one itself.

Have to blame Rob for that one. He lettered the notes.

Rask, no Fruit Fcuker, just some spilled Mountain Dew. Man, no Kamen Rider Kabuto fans here I guess. That little red thing on the table is the Kabuto Zector.

Xaspian
2007-01-04, 02:35 PM
I'm not sure if I'm right about this, but the font seems to differ for some of the links. Nothing major, and it doesn't detract from the wonder and respect I hold for you, but my pedantic nature forces me to mention it.

TheAnimal
2007-01-04, 02:41 PM
Jesus saves. But Shearer scores on the rebound!

Or:
Jesus won the coding contest between Heaven and Hell because of a blackout. Why?
Because Jesus Saves All! :smallbiggrin:

Aliquid
2007-01-04, 02:49 PM
Jami, any reason why you used the treble clef, or G clef, symbol instead of a musical note in panel 4? Its very odd seeing it used as a visual cue for musical notes since it is not one itself.It isn't a note itself, but it does tell you something about the sound of the music, i.e. the music is playing in higher pitches (treble clef). Clearly it is to indicate that this guy has a crappy car stereo that can't handle any bass. :smallwink:

jami
2007-01-04, 02:51 PM
I'm not sure if I'm right about this, but the font seems to differ for some of the links. Nothing major, and it doesn't detract from the wonder and respect I hold for you, but my pedantic nature forces me to mention it.

That one's on me. I use a Mac at home. Clearly, this guy can't afford a mac so I grabbed a PC IE window. But I don't have the matching font on my Mac. So I fudged it.

Dib
2007-01-04, 02:53 PM
he... only just noticed the clock says PM... he gets up almost as late as me...

Xaspian
2007-01-04, 02:53 PM
That one's on me. I use a Mac at home. Clearly, this guy can't afford a mac so I grabbed a PC IE window. But I don't have the matching font on my Mac. So I fudged it.

Fair enough. It was on about my 5th look through, and it's not a big deal anyway.

Keep up the good work, please!

EDIT: I can see what I assume is a PS2. But is that white blob a Wii?

Om
2007-01-04, 02:58 PM
That one's on me. I use a Mac at home. Clearly, this guy can't afford a mac so I grabbed a PC IE window. But I don't have the matching font on my Mac. So I fudged it.
At least that explains the Mac store :smallsmile:

jami
2007-01-04, 03:02 PM
EDIT: I can see what I assume is a PS2. But is that white blob a Wii?

Indeed and indeed!

pclips
2007-01-04, 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by Xaspian http://www.giantitp.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1778161#post1778161)
EDIT: I can see what I assume is a PS2. But is that white blob a Wii?


Indeed and indeed!

Erm, wish I had noticed that. If it is, we've got a continuity problem. :smallredface:

jami
2007-01-04, 03:19 PM
Erm, wish I had noticed that. If it is, we've got a continuity problem. :smallredface:

Ah poop! I mean, Wii? What Wii? I see no Wii here!

Doug Lampert
2007-01-04, 03:22 PM
I use IE!
More to the point any competent web designer WILL use IE at least part of the time because he needs to check that IE displays his pages correctly. Microsoft doesn't feel obligated to follow the same standards as the rest of the world, so you need a box that shows what their softwear thinks your page looks like.

belboz
2007-01-04, 03:55 PM
I don't see any evidence yet that Erfworld is a game, as opposed to an alternate dimension, at all.

I do think that we've found our master warlord. Look at his newsposts on hamstard.com--he goes on and on about how he's a master strategist, and likes anything fantasy with a heavy strategy component.

I think he's going to get sucked in to Erfworld bodily, not as a player, to act as their warlord, since he's so good at strategy in a fantastic environment.

Although this gimmik is often used, I think it will work pretty well here. For one thing, all the gaming/web terms fit into the structure of the story a lot better--how will he cope in a world that uses words he knows for things he doesn't? And what will he make of r/w substitution?


At any rate, my interest has been piqued. I've definitely moved from the "Hmm...don't like this much yet, but I really like PC, and I like the art, so we'll see where it goes" camp to the "Hmm...this is pretty interesting so far" camp.

Maurog
2007-01-04, 03:57 PM
Hmm, the white blob doesn't look a wii to me. But it doesn't look like an Xbox either. And that guy's only consoles are the PS2 and the Xbox. Maybe it's just the phone? If so, it looks like it's the handset near it, so it's off the hook and nobody can call him.

mikeejimbo
2007-01-04, 04:15 PM
I don't have much to say except that I thought it was neat.

Nerd-o-rama
2007-01-04, 04:29 PM
Modern world crossover probably coming. Cliché? Yes. Bad? Not necessarily. As before, I'm looking forward to what develops.

Also, loved the Goblins plug. And the totally accurate depiction of my life.

Sadly, there's no way this man can be the greatest warlord in the multiverse. He uses IE. EDIT: Damn, someone already used that joke.

Guildorn Tanaleth
2007-01-04, 04:41 PM
Bwahahaha! The perfect warlord is a geek from Earth? Hilarious!

Wait a minute... he's a Windows user, despite working next to an Apple store? NOOOOOO!!!!! It can't be! No, wait, maybe he's just being really brave by constantly taking on an inferior operating system & its frequently derided browser. Yes, that's it, he's brave. Good warlord material. Not an idiot.

EDIT: Oh, wait, it's already been explained.

Mr._Blinky
2007-01-04, 05:08 PM
http://goblinscomic.com/

ANOTHER ONE. First link up the top with a google search for "Goblins".

This one by someone called "Tarol Hunt".

Looks pretty cool
Goblins is an excellent comic. I've been reading it almost since it started, and it just keeps getting better.


And on an unrelated note to the bookmarking, but a vague reference . . . Thomas Covenant, anyone?
That could work, but Covenant was a leper, which is part of what made it interesting.

Hart av Srednak
2007-01-04, 05:20 PM
(I'm sure this is an example of a messed up spell, as no guy into Furry porn could possibly be an elite anything.)

If you suck at many aspects of life (like social skills and athletics), are about medicore in rest of your skills and your only (super) talent - only thing that rises you above the crowd - is that no one beats you in turn-based-strategies.. then I say yes Furry porn fits you're profile easily.:smallbiggrin:

EDIT: subcriber doesn't have (super) talent for turn-based-strategies and differs from our would-be-warlord in other aspects too (as does his home and occupation differ w-b-w's home and occupation):smallwink:

Demented
2007-01-04, 05:41 PM
You NEED to be a Warlord to operate the Windows operating system to its full effectiveness.
I'd be tempted to say that Stanley is about to get the perfect warlord, but a small part of me still believes that this guy is the one who's been making Stanley do all those bone-headed decisions in the first place.

Allandaros
2007-01-04, 06:14 PM
And once again - thank you guys for mentioning Jonathan Coulton!

Tussy the Druid
2007-01-04, 06:38 PM
Jesus takes half damage? Nice.

Myatar_Panwar
2007-01-04, 06:43 PM
Wow, great erfworld comic. And I have to agree with everyone on the warlord thing.

Lizard
2007-01-04, 06:51 PM
Ha!
From the beginning of Erfworld I had a feeling that, at some point, there will be a crossover with "real" world. Good to know that at least once in the while my gut feelings are correct.
I really like the current twist. Cant wait for next chapter(Page) :smallsmile:

pclips
2007-01-04, 07:40 PM
And once again - thank you guys for mentioning Jonathan Coulton!

See, I know Jonathan, and love his work. We met when we were on a panel together at Confluence last Summer. (In addition to comics, I do funny music (http://www.richfantasylives.com), and just launched a new site for that (http://www.thefump.com) with some of my other talented friends.) He caught me doing backup vocal harmonies on Skullcrusher Mountain from the second row at a show last month and was like, "Was that you, Rob? Rob Balder, ladies and gentlemen." :smallredface: I just emailed him to let him know about the reference.

There's a chance the connection between Erfworld and Jonathan Coulton could be expanded at some point. Before the end of the month you will be hearing more about our plans to come out with original music related to Erfworld, presented under that same Creative Commons approach Jonathan uses.

Having Erfworld here is kind of a webcomics first. But Rich and Jamie and I all want it to keep on breaking new ground as it goes. Hamstard.com is a hint at the kind of complexity and depth we have in mind for this project. Stick around and you'll see some interesting stuff unfold.

danielf
2007-01-04, 07:44 PM
i think it would be better if he was using firefox :P

Scatha
2007-01-04, 08:09 PM
Believe me or not, but I knew from the moment that Wanda mentioned that the spell would summon the "Perfect Warlord" that he would be both from our world and more or less of a nerd, as it seems quite more, complete with calculator watch and massive waistline. That's just the way stories like this work, ask Elan. Where would the fun be if the Warlord seemed competent in any way?

teratorn
2007-01-04, 09:47 PM
Why doesn't he have giantitp.com bookmarked? :(
Self-reference... But mentioning goblins was cool. And I'm impressed by the fact that Erfworld creators made a real comic strip for this loser, with fake dates and everything. Since this thing is supposed to be almost one year ago I'll ignore Jami's remark about the wii and assume the white thing is just a phone.


he... only just noticed the clock says PM... he gets up almost as late as me...
First thing I noticed.

Any bets this guy will end up dating Wanda?

jami
2007-01-04, 10:05 PM
Self-reference... But mentioning goblins was cool. And I'm impressed by the fact that Erfworld creators made a real comic strip for this loser, with fake dates and everything. Since this thing is supposed to be almost one year ago I'll ignore Jami's remark about the wii and assume the white thing is just a phone.

Wii? What's a Wii? I see no Wii here!

TinSoldier
2007-01-04, 10:09 PM
Wii? What's a Wii? I see no Wii here!Yeah. It's just a... white thing... on a stand... with another white thing attached to it by a cord.

Come on! It could be anything! Plus, the Wii has a wireless controller. Duh.

:biggrin:

Maybe Our Hero got his hands on a prototype of a Revolution...

Terran Medic
2007-01-04, 10:09 PM
Does anyone know what he means by "24 uniques"?
Also, how would that be sad?

TinSoldier
2007-01-04, 10:10 PM
Does anyone know what he means by "24 uniques"?He's checking the unique number of visitors to his webcomic. He had 24. That's not a very big number.

Frosty Flake
2007-01-04, 10:34 PM
Who gets up at 5:18 PM? 5:15 or 5:20, but 5:18? Has he accurately clocked the amount of time it takes him to drink a red bull and get to work precisely so that he can sleep in another three precious minutes? If that's the case... then he is indeed the perfect warlord.

(I'm assuming he works at Kinki's, and isn't just a fan who likes to advertise one of his favourite company’s by wearing their apparel)

Edit: CALCULATOR WATCH! OMGWTFTRIGONOMETRY!

Vazzaroth
2007-01-04, 10:42 PM
I read the first couple of lines to that song ont he alarm clock thinking "I know this song....
and finally said "OH! BECK!" after a few moments. Yay for random referances to things. It would also appear Mr. Reallife is a "loser, baby".

chionophile
2007-01-04, 11:29 PM
Who gets up at 5:18 PM? 5:15 or 5:20, but 5:18? Has he accurately clocked the amount of time it takes him to drink a red bull and get to work precisely so that he can sleep in another three precious minutes? If that's the case... then he is indeed the perfect warlord.

(I'm assuming he works at Kinki's, and isn't just a fan who likes to advertise one of his favourite company’s by wearing their apparel)

Edit: CALCULATOR WATCH! OMGWTFTRIGONOMETRY!

Well... A lot of sleep timers are set to eight minutes (mine are anyway). Maybe his alarm was set to 4:30 and he hit sleep six times :smalleek:.

And I would hate it if Wanda started dating Mr. Loser. Wanda deserves someone much cooler.

MinusInnocence
2007-01-04, 11:46 PM
Man you guys are ruthless. Maybe he's really funny or shy in a charming way. Or maybe he's great in the sack!

Or maybe he'll die after a single turn and Stanley will have to come up with something else.

chionophile
2007-01-05, 12:03 AM
hahaha. He can be the funniest and/or shyest guy in the world, it doesn't excuse his choice of lifestyle, which just screams "loser".

And I don't think he'll die after a single turn. Kinda anticlimactic.

Alchemistmerlin
2007-01-05, 12:03 AM
Girls Gone Feral?

That done sound like furry talk to me. We don't take kindly to furries 'round here...

MinusInnocence
2007-01-05, 12:05 AM
I, for one, welcome our portly new overlord.

Frosty Flake
2007-01-05, 12:14 AM
Girls Gone Feral?

That done sound like furry talk to me. We don't take kindly to furries 'round here...

I was picturing more of a 'Girls gone Wild' goes to the barbarian wastelands... you know, Axe-swinging blondes taking their tops off for beaded skulls? He might like strong women like that... strong women like Jillian!

ElfLad
2007-01-05, 12:25 AM
He's checking the unique number of visitors to his webcomic. He had 24. That's not a very big number.

For contrast, I had 27 Unique URLs my first month way back in June, when I had about six comics up. This month, I've had 198 unique URLs. 24 isn't so bad for a comic that's just starting up, but if it's been lower than that and only just reached 24 as its maximum after 6+ months, that'd be pretty bad.

MinusInnocence
2007-01-05, 03:25 AM
I was picturing more of a 'Girls gone Wild' goes to the barbarian wastelands... you know, Axe-swinging blondes taking their tops off for beaded skulls? He might like strong women like that... strong women like Jillian!I assumed it referenced zombie porn.

Speaking of zombie porn, can anyone point me toward the good stuff? I'm doing research for a paper and all I can find is junk... yeah yeah I know, all porn is junk but I was hoping for something a little more artsy than the pieces I've found thus far.

And no, Zombie Pin-Ups doesn't count.

Dao Jones
2007-01-05, 03:58 AM
Incidentally, if you register for the Hamstard forums (which I did, because I find the somewhat non-sequitur humor of the comic damn funny), you get a confirmation email sent by the following address: *******@erfworld.com.

So yeah, those of you wondering what the relationship between the two comics is can have that to chew on.

Personally, I'm wondering: am I the only guy here content to not try to psychoanalyze every panel and page of this comic? Am I alone in simply being happy to read each update as it comes, delighted to see what the authors intend and only frustrated that I don't have ten new updates to enjoy every day? I do understand the desire to discuss this sort of thing, but trying to stay three moves ahead feels like it would dilute the enjoyment somehow. I don't care what the fat loser means to the comic - I'm just glad to be reading about it.

Although, the "Connecticut Yankee in King's Arthur's Court" reference of dropping a modern guy into a medieval/fantasy setting is pretty cool, if that's what happens. It'll take all the Dwarven smiths of Valhalla to forge plate mail that'll fit his girth, though. :smallsmile:

MinusInnocence
2007-01-05, 04:24 AM
Nix the armor, what he needs is a giant transparent hamster ball to roll around in like on American Gladiators.

TheAnimal
2007-01-05, 05:07 AM
Hamstard.com is a hint at the kind of complexity and depth we have in mind for this project. Stick around and you'll see some interesting stuff unfold.
OK, I'm off to get "Erfworld Idiot 4 lyfe" tattooed on my forehead. :cool:
The hamstard hoax was great in its subtlety.

charles
2007-01-05, 08:31 AM
hmmmm,

I'm suddenly curious about the possibility that they created the entire "Hamstard" site just for this comic.

The creation date for "Lord Hamster" is only the 2nd of Jan 2007!!!

*shrug* doubtful but it doesn't look that big or complex so they could have done it.

charles
2007-01-05, 08:35 AM
OH MY GOD!!!!

ALL THOSE NEWS POSTS THAT CLAIM TO BE FROM AS FAR BACK AS 2005 ARE ONLY FROM THE 3rd OF JANUARY!!!!

THE WHOLE THING IS A SETUP FOR THIS COMIC!!!!!!

I am impressed.

Wallyz
2007-01-05, 08:45 AM
hmmmm,

I'm suddenly curious about the possibility that they created the entire "Hamstard" site just for this comic.



Just now?:smallbiggrin:

charles
2007-01-05, 09:26 AM
Yeah Yeah! I just went and read the www.hamstard.com (http://www.hamstard.com) thread that I myself created and saw the revelations there. *hits head*

DAMN! thats a lot of effort just for a little reference though! It's like creating a RPG character and giving him a detailed background storyline. Their probably going to create heaps of sites like this for us to chase around as the comic progresses.

I think its a good reward for those who want to look deeper into the comic than just the pages themselves.

PS how funny is it that a fake (yet real) comic is in the top 100 of some of the popular web comic lists?

Mr Teufel
2007-01-05, 10:07 AM
Personally, I'm wondering: am I the only guy here content to not try to psychoanalyze every panel and page of this comic?

Yup. I think it's just you.

:smallsmile:

But d@mn, Hamstard.com has given me new respect for this thing. I'm much more interested now.

Mr Teufel
2007-01-05, 10:18 AM
A clue! From the Hamstard forum:
"I dunno if this is gonna be a gaming comic or not. It's a total cliche I know. But it's what I do.

I have two console systems...xbox and a PS2, but I'm a lot more into strategy games. I play Warhammer and some other miniatures systems, and I am developing my own game. And I like some older PC fantasy strategy games like Warlords IV and Civ II, and some RTS like AoE. Board games, too. Anything strategy and fantasy, I like. I don't play any mmorpgs tho. Too repetetive, not enough strategy.

Anyway, back to the comic. Hamstard's kind of an angry version of me. I think he just goes off about anything. Prolly he'll say stuff about games I play cause that's what I think about. But I am gonna try and make it as original as possible.

I guess I'll hold off on the game jokes as much as I can."

Madalin
2007-01-05, 11:50 AM
I greatly dislike this.
If it's completely unrelated to Erfworld, I find it very strange and frankly, a stupid idea, to do something like this so early in the comic.
If it's going to link into Erfworld's actual story, I can't think of any way it could be pulled off without ending up crappy.

In conclusion, I doubt this is going to end well. But if it does, yay.

chionophile
2007-01-05, 12:41 PM
Madalin, did you read the rest of the thread? He's clearly the ultimate warlord that Wanda is going to summon. How else would this tie in to Erfworld? Makes perfect sense to me.

Harr
2007-01-05, 01:40 PM
Madalin, did you read the rest of the thread? He's clearly the ultimate warlord that Wanda is going to summon. How else would this tie in to Erfworld? Makes perfect sense to me.

I think the point he's trying to make is that it all seems superfluous to the Erfworld storyline; just another random thing tacked on for no real reason other than for the authors to wax eloquent about what awesome "complexity" they're building when in reality the comic would come off exactly the same with or without the fake hamster website.

Before I visit Hamstard.com: The guy's a gamer geek who works at Kinko's and has a webcomic. After I visit Hamstard.com: The guy's a gamer geek who works at Kinko's and has a webcomic. Wow. That's probably what Madalin was getting at.

As for myself, I don't really care either way, the story if it's any good will have to stand on its own, with or without all the little extra gimmicks thrown in along the way. You gotta give the authors credit for trying something unusual, at least.

Hart av Srednak
2007-01-05, 01:43 PM
Can some english speaking referencomancer or cryptomancer see something in name Parson Gotti (sorry for double asking but seems that no one is reading pun translations anymore)?


I greatly dislike this.
If it's completely unrelated to Erfworld, I find it very strange and frankly, a stupid idea, to do something like this so early in the comic.
If it's going to link into Erfworld's actual story,

At Erfworld Wanda is going up to tower Efdup to summon the perfect warlord. At modern earth strategy game geek hasn't updated his comic for ages (that doesn't have to be a mystery but...)

see comic #5
Wanda:...With it, one can summon the Perfect Warlord.
Stanley: Summon? From where?
Wanda: Anywhere in all existence. It's a very powerful spell.

teratorn
2007-01-05, 02:21 PM
I think the point he's trying to make is that it all seems superfluous to the Erfworld storyline; just another random thing tacked on for no real reason other than for the authors to wax eloquent about what awesome "complexity" they're building when in reality the comic would come off exactly the same with or without the fake hamster website.

Before I visit Hamstard.com: The guy's a gamer geek who works at Kinko's and has a webcomic. After I visit Hamstard.com: The guy's a gamer geek who works at Kinko's and has a webcomic. Wow. That's probably what Madalin was getting at.

I disagree somewhat. This makes the guy "real". He is living in our world! He has a true webcomic, he could be one of us. These small details are great.


As for myself, I don't really care either way, the story if it's any good will have to stand on its own, with or without all the little extra gimmicks thrown in along the way. You gotta give the authors credit for trying something unusual, at least.
I agree, but these gimmicks add a nice feeling to the whole thing.

Dao Jones
2007-01-05, 03:15 PM
Yup. I think it's just you.

:smallsmile:

Sweet. I am a unique snowflake. I don't care what Tyler Durden says.


But d@mn, Hamstard.com has given me new respect for this thing. I'm much more interested now.

Hear hear. I was already pretty interested, and you have to show some love for the extra effort. I don't even care how relevant the Hamstard comic is to Erfworld - these guys get an "A" for creativity. Sadly, if the Hamstard creator gets sucked into Erfworld, that'll be yet another excuse for him not to update. :smallwink:

I think I enjoyed the Hamstard bit for the exact same reason Madalin had a hate-on for it. It's weird, doesn't seem to make sense, is oddly self-referential... and I swear the tubby dude writing it used to be my friend's roommate. (Right down to the weight, messy room, magazine preference and Red Bull consumption upon waking. He even worked at Kinkos. But he would have had a Super Nintendo with his PS2.)

Incidentally, not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but I think the "Something Positive" link is a reference to www.somethingawful.com. Great site - the Tuesday and Friday updates are particularly quality.

Jalathas
2007-01-05, 03:56 PM
Wow. Is this gonna end up being an ARG-in-a-webcomic sort of deal? That would be really awesome.

Gedrean
2007-01-05, 05:15 PM
Incidentally, not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but I think the "Something Positive" link is a reference to www.somethingawful.com. Great site - the Tuesday and Friday updates are particularly quality.

Actually it references www.somethingpositive.net. Great site - ... I can't make the joke continue.

In addition, I like Hamstard.com because it's like Ilikebees, it has that semi-viral quality about it which will make it that much more enjoyable!
Hamstard even mentions that he finds it hard to viral-market. I think this is a joke reference to Bees from the Halo projects.

charles
2007-01-05, 06:03 PM
Ok, we know Wanda will cast the spell and something will probably go wrong. Assuming that it does summon Gotti, who's to say that it wouldn't summon him even if cast by the looka/findamancers? What if instead, the spell goes wrong by partially merging our world with ERFWORLD. Maybe we'll start to see other "gamers" sucked into the world and spat back from time to time. OR!!! Erfworlders thrown into this world.

I'm looking forward to chasing down more stuff like "hamstard". It's a great Idea to develop a cult following and reward their efforts with stuff like Hamstard.

Who doesn't love nostlgic stuff like Jami's Bogrol and Rob's Hamstard (which I think someone pointed to an old charity comic of his).

PS: I'm guessing Parson Gotti is just his name and they'll refer to him as "Gotti" in Erfworld... Thats WARLORD Gotti! PMSL

dactylos
2007-01-05, 07:27 PM
Can some english speaking referencomancer or cryptomancer see something in name Parson Gotti (sorry for double asking but seems that no one is reading pun translations anymore)?


"Parson Gotti" is an anagram of "protagonist".

Hart av Srednak
2007-01-05, 07:37 PM
"Parson Gotti" is an anagram of "protagonist".

It must be.. thank you for atleast few hudred times :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin:



PS: I'm guessing Parson Gotti is just his name and they'll refer to him as "Gotti" in Erfworld... Thats WARLORD Gotti! PMSL

It is his real name like Wanda is really Wanda, but all others have had some hidden meanings or jokes so why wouldn't our will-be-starplayer.

There's is a thread that has opened most of them:
pun translations

teratorn
2007-01-05, 11:40 PM
"Parson Gotti" is an anagram of "protagonist".

That's showing off... or did you use that in one of your webcomics?

Jorkens
2007-01-06, 07:30 AM
"Parson Gotti" is an anagram of "protagonist".
Zoiks!

That's almost as cheesy^w good as Hiro Protagonist in Snow Crash....

Nerd-o-rama
2007-01-07, 03:05 AM
Hey, wasn't there supposed to be a new page yesterday?

Madalin
2007-01-07, 04:59 AM
Yeah, I read the thread, I know it's likely he's the warlord, what I was saying is that I'm not sure how the actual comics with him as the warlord will turn out, and I don't like the idea. But only time will tell.

And I felt actually creating a huge amount of comics back to 2005 was sort of... overkill. Really, it's a nice touch, but what's the point?

Nerd-o-rama
2007-01-07, 11:06 AM
They weren't created all the way back then. Just backdated. Presumably Jamie and Rob created all those comics (which probably took around three hours, honestly, and another two for the site design and registration) and posted them sometime last month.

Om
2007-01-07, 11:21 AM
And I felt actually creating a huge amount of comics back to 2005 was sort of... overkill. Really, it's a nice touch, but what's the point?
They're funny.

AngryGreek
2007-01-07, 11:53 AM
I was very thankful for the link to Hamstard.com. I love that little guy, infinitely more than even Wanda (who, by the way, has a wicked cartoon ass).

Rask
2007-01-07, 12:38 PM
Have to blame Rob for that one. He lettered the notes.

Rask, no Fruit Fcuker, just some spilled Mountain Dew. Man, no Kamen Rider Kabuto fans here I guess. That little red thing on the table is the Kabuto Zector.

Sorry, not on the table, but on the little side table in the same panel, next to the bunny.

Madalin
2007-01-07, 02:26 PM
They weren't created all the way back then. Just backdated. Presumably Jamie and Rob created all those comics (which probably took around three hours, honestly, and another two for the site design and registration) and posted them sometime last month.

No, that's what I actually meant. I said creating comics back to 2005, by which I meant creating an archive of comics that starts from 2005, but that wasn't necessarily made starting in 2005.

Sorry for not being clear.

Jalathas
2007-01-08, 06:26 AM
In addition, I like Hamstard.com because it's like Ilikebees, it has that semi-viral quality about it which will make it that much more enjoyable!
Hamstard even mentions that he finds it hard to viral-market. I think this is a joke reference to Bees from the Halo projects.
I think you mean ILoveBees, not ilikebees. And while it probably is a reference, viral marketing is also just a process that most products use to some degree, also known as word-of-mouth. It's just people telling their friends, "Hey, read this webcomic, it's cool." What you're thinking of, creating websites and such for characters, is called an artificial reality game, or ARG, like I was asking about.

In other news, I feel like a pedant now! Yay!

jami
2007-01-08, 09:17 AM
Sorry, not on the table, but on the little side table in the same panel, next to the bunny.

Aha! That's a mini-bust of a Zaku, MS-06, from Mobile Suit Gundam. It scares me that I know the call numbers of mobile suits without having to look them up. Also, the bunny is a Dunny from Kid Robot.

Mr Wizard
2007-01-08, 01:05 PM
Jillian may be the second Barbarian to befriend a midget giant space hamster.

:)

mycophage
2007-01-08, 07:20 PM
I agree that it's likely our slob gamer will become the very hero the Erfworlders are waiting for.

This is a very obscure reference, but: the overweight, schlumpy, not-super-clean late adolescent reminds me of the sloppy nobody Sumner Kagan starts out as in Attanasio's Radix. (Sumner Kagan became a hero, too, in spite of himself.) I doubt it's an intentional homage but it makes me like him more already.

ILOVEKAREN
2007-01-08, 08:52 PM
As for the timeline...Fedex bought Kinko's at the beginning of 2004, IIRC, and it was about June that they announced the name change. Changing out signage took months, and team members were wearing Kinko's aprons well into 2005.

Betas of IE7, I believe, came out in in summer of 2005.

Mr Teufel
2007-01-08, 09:34 PM
What I like about Hamstard etc is that the comic creators are rewarding all this detailed analysis and investigation of their work. They know what we're* like, and are affirming our distinguishing characteristics.

In other words: "They're one of us!"


*Internet RPG/webcomic/genre fans

Allandaros
2007-01-09, 03:24 PM
What I like about Hamstard etc is that the comic creators are rewarding all this detailed analysis and investigation of their work. They know what we're* like, and are affirming our distinguishing characteristics.

In other words: "They're one of us!"


*Internet RPG/webcomic/genre fans

Well, they are webcomic authors being hosted on one of the foremost gaming-comic websites.

You'd THINK they'd have some idea of their audience... :)

dakiwiboid
2007-01-09, 06:06 PM
Now I'm jonesing for the next one to come out so that I can see where this is going next!:smallbiggrin:

Mauril Everleaf
2007-01-09, 07:24 PM
Agreed. That's one thing that Erfworld has done that the first dozen OotS didn't really do for me, make me wait on pins and needles for the next installment. Granted, OotS does that now, but we are almost to strip 400.
Go Erfworld!

Lord_Jadawin
2007-01-09, 08:45 PM
I'll have to admit- when I first read Erf 14 (last Thu), I didn't get it at all, and I hadn't been impressed with anything I had seen out of Erfworld to date (the chat scroll and the orlys were kinda clever, and that was it). Fortunately, as soon I came over here to bitch about why in the hell Rich was soiling his site with such a crappy webcomic, I immediately read a post that made 14 click, and I realized I hadn't been making any effort to comprehend Erfworld at all. I then went back and read all 14 strips as a semi-coherent whole and I have to admit I am starting to get sucked in.

I have also found Atland and Goblins recently as the result of posts from these forums, and I read the entire Goblins archive over the weekend (and thoroughly enjoyed it, incidentally). Erfworld is a lot more like those strips than OotS, IMO- almost every OotS can be read individually, even though they are a lot better if you read a bunch of them at once. Erfworld, Atland, and Goblins almost demand that you read blocks of them at a time- and yet all of them update more slowly than OotS. I don't plan on returning to Goblins for a few months, actually- because I want to build up enough to get something out of my return. I think it might be wise for me to do the same for Erfworld, but I doubt I will have the willpower with the link over there beckoning me everytime I return to check on OotS.

Keep up the good work, Jamie and Rob!

TinSoldier
2007-01-09, 10:20 PM
Not to derail the thread, but regarding Goblins, when Thunt changed comic hosting he had to split the archives up by page instead of the multi-page updates that he used to have in the archives (which is how they were originally posted, as well).

And woohoo! Goblins love! Can you feel it? I can...

Mr Teufel
2007-01-12, 06:20 PM
Jillian may be the second Barbarian to befriend a midget giant space hamster.

:)


Yay! Spelljammer -> Fallout -> Erfworld!