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Tokiko Mima
2007-02-14, 05:13 PM
Ok, it's driving me nuts. What is this in reference to?


"I can taste key lime pie."

Lord Manpower the Temporary says this as his last words after he's arrowed through the head and dies. When next we see him, he's a non-speaking green zombie with an eye-patch. I even went through all the AZM comics I could find and a bunch of PClips and failed to find another pie, arrow, or last words reference that might explain this.

It is just supposed to be funny as a random thing to say when one knows one is about to die? I thought it might refer to his uncroaking turning him green, and key lime pie being green, but actual "official" key lime pie is supposed to be yellow so that's out.

Anyone else know something that I'm missing here?

Catch
2007-02-14, 05:24 PM
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

arch
2007-02-14, 05:30 PM
There are cases of brain trauma where patients have reported phantom tastes and smells. An arrow through the head would probably qualify. ;-)

Mauril Everleaf
2007-02-14, 05:37 PM
If you are needing a reference (which I don't think there really is one), watch old war movies. When the main character's friend dies he usually says something along the lines of "I smell fresh bread" or "I can taste my momma's apple pie" then they keel over. This was a humorous adaptation of that phenomenon (which actually occurs in many dying people).

SteveMB
2007-02-14, 08:10 PM
I think it's just supposed to be a random thing popping out of his brain as the lights turn off.

TinSoldier
2007-02-14, 09:18 PM
If you've ever seen anything regarding brain surgery, you know that poking at or stimulating various areas of the brain can cause sensory perceptions, such as sights, sounds, tastes, or smells. The arrow went through Manpower's brain stimulating the neurons and causing him to taste key lime pie. Right before he croaked.

Erk
2007-02-14, 09:24 PM
Yes, actually, the first legitimate map of the human brain was made based on a stroke victim who smelled burning toast right as the stroke set on.

Wallyz
2007-02-14, 09:25 PM
I think it's just supposed to be a random thing popping out of his brain as the lights turn off.

Along with the not so random crossbow bolt that just "popped" into his head.

Cobra_Ikari
2007-02-15, 02:00 AM
For some reason, this topic now has me wondering if uncroaked Manpower is constantly tasting pie. Or if that eyepatch has a match on the back of his head for the exit wound.

Vargtass
2007-02-15, 05:16 AM
I seem to remember that someone stated at the time thar there was an elaborate reference to some sort of computer game...

... though I do agree on the above explanations to. Perhaps the Puns explained thread has the answer?

Yes, I found it in one of Cuchulainshound's posts on the second page of Pun translations



But the most obvious is in the series name itself, "Gobwin Knob". With the "cutesie" baby language going on (dwagons, spidews, erfworld*), that's Goblin's Knob, which is the smallest of the small challenges in one of the greatest timewasters on the internet, The Kingdom of Loathing. (In which "key lime pie" also plays a very, very small part.) (And we won't go into what a Knob Goblin is, ahem.)

(* erfworld = earthworld (and/or possibly "elfworld"), btw, in case anyone is still working at the "dwagons = dragons" level. Right, then.)



For a more accurate explanation, Cuchulainshound will have to elaborate...

Glome
2007-02-15, 06:33 AM
I seem to remember that someone stated at the time thar there was an elaborate reference to some sort of computer game...

... though I do agree on the above explanations to. Perhaps the Puns explained thread has the answer?

Yes, I found it in one of Cuchulainshound's posts on the second page of Pun translations



For a more accurate explanation, Cuchulainshound will have to elaborate...

I've played that game a little bit. It's basically a satirical rpg game where you and the monsters you fight are represented by badly drawn stick figures. One of your your big opponents as mentioned are knob goblins. A big part of the game is making different items, one of which is key lime pie, which is made literally from a key and a lime added to some crust. I don't think there is anymore significance then that and what was mentioned earlier about people tasting things when they die.

Tokiko Mima
2007-02-15, 11:05 AM
I've played that game a little bit. It's basically a satirical rpg game where you and the monsters you fight are represented by badly drawn stick figures. One of your your big opponents as mentioned are knob goblins. A big part of the game is making different items, one of which is key lime pie, which is made literally from a key and a lime added to some crust. I don't think there is anymore significance then that and what was mentioned earlier about people tasting things when they die.

Awesome! Well, that explains it. I knew it wasn't just a random choice of pie or something abitrary to say.

Now I guess the only mystery left is how Manpower was killed with an arrow, when he was ambushed by crossbowmen.

Erk
2007-02-16, 05:29 AM
Marbit crossbows shoot arrows :elan:

Furin_Mirado
2007-02-16, 10:28 AM
Wait a minute, have we actually seen Manpower as a zombie? Which comic is he in?

Calamity
2007-02-16, 10:33 AM
Yes, Page 3, second panel, behind Wanda

Ave
2007-02-17, 12:53 PM
Heh, key lime pie is an existing stuff, not just a random brain surgery thing. As in RL existing.

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&q=%22key+lime+pie%22&btnG=Search

Atlas
2007-02-17, 01:28 PM
I thought the "key lime pie" was some sort of reference to Natural Born Killers. But it's been a long time since I saw that, and I didn't enjoy it much, so I may not be remembering correctly. But I thought there was some sort of similar reference there.

ChimericPhase
2007-02-18, 08:51 AM
Heh, key lime pie is an existing stuff, not just a random brain surgery thing. As in RL existing.

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&q=%22key+lime+pie%22&btnG=Search

I don't think anyone is making the claim that key lime pie doesn't actually exist. I see them in the grocery freezer section often enough to reaffirm my faith in pie without question.


I'm inclined to think it was a play on the random sensory perception at the moment death, with the atypical approach by choosing key lime instead of apple pie, or fresh baked bread.

But then, this is Erfworld, so it could be a refrence to an ambiguous third world country and chupacabras for all I know.

Tokiko Mima
2007-02-20, 05:40 PM
Manpower the (Post-)Temporary did repeat the word "Pie" in this latest strip, so perhaps there's even more to come on this subject.

chionophile
2007-02-20, 06:53 PM
This thread is really making me crave key lime pie. mmm, pie.

Silverlocke980
2007-02-22, 12:42 AM
Agreed- the dying suffer several symptoms, such as tasting that which is not there.

So sad- but funny, too.

(As last words go, "I can taste key lime pie", isn't so bad!)

Thanatos
2007-02-22, 01:45 AM
Manpower the (Post-)Temporary did repeat the word "Pie" in this latest strip, so perhaps there's even more to come on this subject.
Or maybe synthesia just continues into uncroakedness. "Pie" is practically a one-word internet meme in itself, so having him stuck on that thought makes for an easy geek reference.

Now... this is probably too much of a stretch to be an intentional reference, but it works nicely as an inadvertent one:

In Dead Like Me, "grim reapers" are just people that died and for some reason were chosen to collect the souls of others that are going to die, for a while before passing on to the afterlife themselves. Georgia (George) is an 18-year-old girl that dies in the pilot episode, and we follow her from the last day of her mortal life to her first assignment as a reaper. In between her living and unliving states, Georgia is still an invisible spirit, and her "mentor" Ruben (Rube) is going over the basics with her.

*******
GEORGE: How come they can see you but they can't see me?
RUBE: Well, peanut, you're dead.
GEORGE: So are you.
RUBE: Bite your tongue! I'll have you know I am un-dead.
GEORGE: What's the difference?
RUBE: As an undead person I have certain rights and priviledges; for instance, I have a physical body. I can enjoy this sweet deliciousness of this tasty key lime pie, and If I so chose I can even interact the the living.
*******

So... Manpower the Uncroaked is undead, and can still taste key lime pie too.

Cobra_Ikari
2007-02-22, 02:24 AM
Or maybe synthesia just continues into uncroakedness. "Pie" is practically a one-word internet meme in itself, so having him stuck on that thought makes for an easy geek reference.

Now... this is probably too much of a stretch to be an intentional reference, but it works nicely as an inadvertent one:

In Dead Like Me, "grim reapers" are just people that died and for some reason were chosen to collect the souls of others that are going to die, for a while before passing on to the afterlife themselves. Georgia (George) is an 18-year-old girl that dies in the pilot episode, and we follow her from the last day of her mortal life to her first assignment as a reaper. In between her living and unliving states, Georgia is still an invisible spirit, and her "mentor" Ruben (Rube) is going over the basics with her.

*******
GEORGE: How come they can see you but they can't see me?
RUBE: Well, peanut, you're dead.
GEORGE: So are you.
RUBE: Bite your tongue! I'll have you know I am un-dead.
GEORGE: What's the difference?
RUBE: As an undead person I have certain rights and priviledges; for instance, I have a physical body. I can enjoy this sweet deliciousness of this tasty key lime pie, and If I so chose I can even interact the the living.
*******

So... Manpower the Uncroaked is undead, and can still taste key lime pie too.

The magic Wiki has revealed to me that pre-death, George worked for a Temporary as well.

Scientivore
2007-02-22, 02:53 AM
So...George the Temporary couldn't taste key lime pie? but Manpower the Temporary can. Cute!

Hart av Srednak
2007-02-22, 05:15 AM
Yes, Page 3, second panel, behind Wanda

Thanks for that. I totally missed that (or actually I thought him to be Dwagons driver... while Wanda was a passenger).

Om
2007-02-22, 07:06 AM
Manpower the (Post-)Temporary did repeat the word "Pie" in this latest strip, so perhaps there's even more to come on this subject.I suspect that this utterance of "Pie" was a dig at this, and similar, threads. Notice that at the time Stanley is mentioning how he can't be explaining every reference... :smallwink:

Erk
2007-02-22, 08:29 AM
Thanatos: amusingly, Rube bragging about eating key lime pie was one of the things I thought of too. But that is what I think of most of the times people mention key lime pie in any way. I agree this is not likely a reference to it, that's just too damned obscure and there was no joke built around it.

Cobra_Ikari
2007-02-22, 04:37 PM
So...George the Temporary couldn't taste key lime pie? but Manpower the Temporary can. Cute!

...now I really, really hope that this is intentional.

Reptilius
2007-02-22, 05:42 PM
Maybe the pie thing in Erfworld is what brains are to zombies in in the "real" world.

Zombie:Brrrrrraaaainnnnns......
Erf-Zombie:Piiiiiiiieeeeee......

Cobra_Ikari
2007-02-22, 06:15 PM
Maybe the pie thing in Erfworld is what brains are to zombies in in the "real" world.

Zombie:Brrrrrraaaainnnnns......
Erf-Zombie:Piiiiiiiieeeeee......

I was thinking that, too, except that it's a definite "Pie". So I think he's just...saying a random...Pie. I could be wrong, though...

Tokiko Mima
2007-02-22, 06:57 PM
This is probably going to turn into something like V's gender isn't it? Every now and then we'll get another key lime pie reference out of the blue. :D

Swashbuckler
2007-02-23, 12:37 AM
(cannot ... resist ... urge ...)

... Pie.

sethdarkwater
2007-02-23, 12:44 AM
Wait a minute, have we actually seen Manpower as a zombie? Which comic is he in?

The very last one. #27

Cobra_Ikari
2007-02-23, 12:46 AM
The very last one. #27

As well as #3, friend. Look at the timing of the post.

And this most recent comic seems to answer my question of whether Manpower constantly tastes pie. Maybe.

sethdarkwater
2007-02-23, 12:48 AM
And now for my two cents... here it comes... Maybe he just thought "hmm... what would be funny for him to say... hmmmm oh I have it I taste key lime pie. Yes Im a genius."
Then agian why think simple, this a thread after all, bad me bad.

TinSoldier
2007-02-23, 12:53 AM
I like pie. (http://www.montecook.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?otherd20_orcandpie)

archon_huskie
2007-02-23, 01:04 AM
Lord Manpower the Temporary's final words are "I can taste key lime pie." The great warrior, the brave and valiant commander dies with pathedic last words.

No great, "I die free." "FREEDOM!" or "ET phone home."

He dies with an anti-climax. Insult to injury. an ignoble death.

Cobra_Ikari
2007-02-23, 01:18 AM
Lord Manpower the Temporary's final words are "I can taste key lime pie." The great warrior, the brave and valiant commander dies with pathedic last words.

No great, "I die free." "FREEDOM!" or "ET phone home."

He dies with an anti-climax. Insult to injury. an ignoble death.

Great warrior? Brave and valiant commander? No, he was a pretty boy. I can't really see this as ringing true.

I think it's mostly the brain injury, with the slim possibility of a Dead Like Me reference.

archon_huskie
2007-02-23, 09:09 PM
It's an anti-climax to his life. He dies pathedically because his life is meaningless in the greater scheme. It rings true.

Stormthorn
2007-02-23, 10:57 PM
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Indeed. Incidently, it could also be an obscure referance but i think the referance might have come about accidentaly and some people just try way to hard. Incidently, i read a book where a guys last words where "The perfect taco". He said these as a result of something his spirit smelled just as it left the 'waiting area' of the afterlife.

dragongirl13
2007-04-15, 12:38 PM
Instead of seeing a light they taste pie, maybe.

Or it's just the fact that they poked the brain in a convenient spot as to make Manpower say he could taste key lime pie.

Whatever it was, Mnpower's gonna end up like Phineas Gage now.

happyturtle
2007-04-15, 03:21 PM
From Lunch at the Gotham Cafe by Stephen King:

"'Boot!' Humbolt cried. I'm quite sure that's what his last word on planet Earth was. Boot."

Even less heroic than Key Lime Pie, though to be fair to Humbolt, one is not expected to be particularly heroic over lunch.

dakiwiboid
2007-04-15, 07:18 PM
Gee, there seems to be a lot of thread necromancy around today.

Tividar's Thorn
2007-04-16, 12:05 PM
It's an anti-climax to his life. He dies pathedically because his life is meaningless in the greater scheme. It rings true.

I think he died because PLOT deemed it necessary. The last words are a riot though. Really classic.