The Room

[Shadow]

The object of the game is to figure out what happened in the room.

You are allowed to ask a yes or no question about anything previously asked/answered or described by me. Any question that cannot be answered [yes] or [no] will simply be ignored.

In order to win the game you must phrase a detailed description of exactly what happened in the room (including in said description each and every item named in the first post... I.E. below) in the from of a yes or no question.
If the answer to that question is [yes]...

You win.

Now... The circumstances:

There is a room.
In the room is a table.
Around the table are four chairs.
Three of the chairs are occupied.
There is a deck of cards on the table.
Four hands have been dealt from the deck.
One of the hands has four aces.
There is a door to the room.
On the door is a hook.


What happened?

((If you've heard this riddle before, I'd ask that you please refrain from playing or helping the others as it would ruin thier fun.))

[edit] There is a specific answer that I'm looking for here. Yes or no questions will lead you towards that answer.

[Zar Peter]

Are the chairs occupied by humans?

[Castaras]

Was it a 52 card pack?

[Kyrian]

Are there any cards missing from the deck?

[Teh_Jakester]

Whose hand is the one with 4 Aces?

[Kyrian]

((Yes or no questions.))

[Zar Peter]

Is the door open?

[Shadow]

Are the chairs occupied by humans?
Yes.

Was it a 52 card pack?
Yes.

Are there any cards missing from the deck?
No.

Is the door open?
No.

[Castaras]

"There is deck of cards." - Is this a grammatical error, or part of the riddle?

Are they playing a gambling game?

Are there three people in the room?

Was there four people in the room before?

[Illiterate Scribe]

Are there any chairs in the room that are not around the table?

Stools?

Is there anything hanging from the hook?

[Shadow]

"There is deck of cards." - Is this a grammatical error, or part of the riddle?
Both. And I've fixed it. I added "on the table" to the explanation just for you, Cas.
Remember, everything I've mentioned must be explained in the answer.


Are they playing a gambling game?Yes.


Are there three people in the room?Yes.


Was there four people in the room before?Yes.

Are there any chairs in the room that are not around the table?Yes.


Stools?No.


Is there anything hanging from the hook?No.

[Castaras]

Is "Deck of Cards" a person?

Were there more than 4 people in the room before?

[Shadow]

Is "Deck of Cards" a person?

Were there more than 4 people in the room before?

No. (see my response above)
No.

[Illiterate Scribe]

Are the chair(s) not around the table facing towards it nonetheless?

[Shadow]

Are the chair(s) not around the table facing towards it nonetheless?
Sure, why not.

[Castaras]

Do the chairs not round the table have any significance?

[Shadow]

Do the chairs not round the table have any significance?
No. They do not.

[Castaras]

That's good.

Is the deck of cards out of its packet?

[Shadow]

That's good.

Is the deck of cards out of its packet?

Yes. The first post says that four hands have been dealt from the deck.

[Mr. Moon]

Is there blood on the hock(sp?)?

Are any of the players hurt?

Has anyone been killed?

Are any/all of the players female?

Are any/all of the players male?

[Shadow]

Is there blood on the hock(sp?)?
There is no blood on the hook.

Are any of the players hurt?
Yes.

Has anyone been killed?
No. No one has been murdered.

Are any/all of the players female?
Yes.

Are any/all of the players male?
Yes.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Is the gender of any of the people in the room important?

Is the gender of every person in the room important?

Are there any androgynous people in the room?

Are there more men than women in the room?

Are there more women than men in the room?

Are there more injured men than women?

Are there more injured women than men?

Are there 2 or more injured people in the room?

[Mr. Moon]

Are any wounds fatal?

Are there any weapons in the room?

Are they playing Russion Roullete?

[Shadow]

1) Is the gender of any of the people in the room important?

2) Is the gender of every person in the room important?

3) Are there any androgynous people in the room?

4) Are there more men than women in the room?

5) Are there more women than men in the room?

6) Are there more injured men than women?

7) Are there more injured women than men?

8) Are there 2 or more injured people in the room?

1) No.
2) No.
3) No.
4) Yes.
5) No.
6) Yes.
7) No.
8) Yes.

1) Are any wounds fatal?

2) Are there any weapons in the room?

3) Are they playing Russion Roullete?
1) This is the time where I ask you to define "wounded" in order for me to answer appropriately. I probably should have done that with the "injury" question as well.
2) No.
3) No.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Are all 3 people injured?

Are their injuries plot important?

Is the fact that they are injured plot important?

[Shadow]

1) Are all 3 people injured?

2) Are their injuries plot important?

3) Is the fact that they are injured plot important?
1) As I stated in the previous answer, I'm now going to ask for you to define "injured" for me so that I can answer correctly.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.

If you have more than one question, please number them so that I don't have to in the quote. Thanks.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Are 2 of the 3 people injured in a plot important manner?

Are all of them injured in such manner?

[Shadow]

Please reread my answer to your first question in the last post and reply so that I might not confuse you.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Please reread my answer to your first question in the last post and reply so that I might not confuse you.

If any of their injuries can be considered "plot-important", which you replied yes to, then my question needs no more clarification. Various degree of wounds can be considered "injury" or not, but that doesn't really work for plot importance. I didn't ask how important.

[Shadow]

I meant this one:
1) As I stated in the previous answer, I'm now going to ask for you to define "injured" for me so that I can answer correctly.That goes for you too, MC.
1) This is the time where I ask you to define "wounded" in order for me to answer appropriately. I probably should have done that with the "injury" question as well.

[Cobra_Ikari]

I understood what you meant. However, you said their injuries were plot-important. We don't know how many people are injured, but regarless of how many people are injured or not, some of them have plot important injuries. That's what I'm asking about. Defining "injury" doesn't matter, since you've already said some have "plot-important injuries".

[Strategos]

1) Are there more than 52 cards in the room?

2) Have the people in the room been involved in any form of unarmed fighting?

[Shadow]

If any of their injuries can be considered "plot-important", which you replied yes to, then my question needs no more clarification. Various degree of wounds can be considered "injury" or not, but that doesn't really work for plot importance. I didn't ask how important.
I understood what you meant. However, you said their injuries were plot-important. We don't know how many people are injured, but regarless of how many people are injured or not, some of them have plot important injuries. That's what I'm asking about. Defining "injury" doesn't matter, since you've already said some have "plot-important injuries".
Are all 3 people injured?Reading through your line of reasoning here, the answer to your question would be: No.

1) Are there more than 52 cards in the room?

2) Have the people in the room been involved in any form of unarmed fighting?
1) No.
2) No.

[Mr. Moon]

Calm down, you two. It's just a game.

By injured I mean anything fatal, I suppose. But I shall make a new list.


Are any of the wounds fatal?
Does more than one person have a wound of any kind?
Are there any people in the room other than the people at the table?
You mentioned there were other chairs. Is anyone sitting on any of them?
If so, are there more than one?
More than five?
More than ten?
More than twenty?
More than thirty?
More than fifty?

[Cobra_Ikari]

Calm down, you two. It's just a game.

I was calm, just trying to explain what I meant rather poorly. :)

[Shadow]

Calm down, you two. It's just a game.

By injured I mean anything fatal, I suppose. But I shall make a new list.


[1]Are any of the wounds fatal?
[2]Does more than one person have a wound of any kind?
[3]Are there any people in the room other than the people at the table?
[4]You mentioned there were other chairs. Is anyone sitting on any of them?
[5]If so, are there more than one?
[6]More than five?
[7]More than ten?
[8]More than twenty?
[9]More than thirty?
[10]More than fifty?
1) Define wound.
2) Again, give me the dictionary definition of "wound" as you see it.
3) No.
4) No.
5) No.
6) No.
7) No.
8) No.
9) No.
10) No.

I was calm, just trying to explain what I meant rather poorly. :)
The problem is that since I know what happened ad you don't, I just want to be absolutely sure what you mean by a question so that I don't steer you in the wrong direction. From this point on I will be using dictionary definitions to determin meaning, not intent.

[Ink]

1. Is there a dead person in the room?

2. Is there more than one dead person in the room?

3. Has a crime occurred?

4. Has an accident occurred?

[Castaras]

Are the wounds flesh wounds?

Are the wounds emotional wounds?

[Shadow]

1. Is there a dead person in the room?

2. Is there more than one dead person in the room?

3. Has a crime occurred?

4. Has an accident occurred?

1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) No. (good question!)
4) Yes.


1) Are the wounds flesh wounds?

2) Are the wounds emotional wounds?

1) No.
2) No.

[Castaras]

Are all the people in the room dead?

Does the accident have something to do with the deck of cards?

[Shadow]

Are all the people in the room dead?

Does the accident have something to do with the deck of cards?

1) Yes.
2) No..............

[Castaras]

Are all the people that were in the room in the first place still there?

[Shadow]

Are all the people that were in the room in the first place still there?

No.
...............

[Ink]

1. Is there a window in the room?

2. Is there anything on the table other than the cards?

3. Is there anything on the floor around the table?

4. Was the person who left the room the one with the four ace hand?

5. Was that person injured when they left the room?

6. Did that person take anything with them when they left the room?

7. Is the accident the cause of death of the three people?

8. Did the three people die at the same time?

9. Was the one who left the room the direct cause of the accident?

10. Was there something hanging on the hook before?

[Mr. Moon]

((Fatal seems a good enough discription, and of any kind I ment in general... Oh well.))

1) Does the hook have any importance?
2) Is a kind of weapon hook?
3) Is it a coat hook?
4) Is it a hook like Captian Hook's hook?
5) Did I misspell hook again? (*grins*)

[Shadow]

1. Is there a window in the room?

2. Is there anything on the table other than the cards?

3. Is there anything on the floor around the table?

4. Was the person who left the room the one with the four ace hand?

5. Was that person injured when they left the room?

6. Did that person take anything with them when they left the room?

7. Is the accident the cause of death of the three people?

8. Did the three people die at the same time?

9. Was the one who left the room the direct cause of the accident?

10. Was there something hanging on the hook before?

Wow! Ink's not messing around!

1) No.
2) No.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.
5) No.
6) Yes.
7) Yes.
8) No.
9) No.
10) Yes.

((Fatal seems a good enough discription, and of any kind I ment in general... Oh well.))

1) Does the hook have any importance?
2) Is a kind of weapon hook?
3) Is it a coat hook?
4) Is it a hook like Captian Hook's hook?
5) Did I misspell hook again? (*grins*)
((wound)) (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/wound;_ylt=AgyA4iM.AQljhmG2I6alchusgMMF)

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) No.
4) No.
5) No. *grins as well*

[evnafets]

Were these four people in a situation from which only one person could survive?
Were they playing cards to see who would survive?

[Ink]

1. Are there visible wounds on any of the three? (scratches, blood, etc.)

2. Is the cause of death the same for all three?

3. Is the cause of death for any of the three immediately apparent? (eg. gunshot to the head, as opposed to suffocation)

4. Were any of the three the direct cause of the accident?

5. Is whatever that caused the deaths of the three people still present in the room?

6. Did the person who left take a weapon from the room?

7. Did any of the four leave their chairs at anytime during the card game?

8. Was the fourth person present in the room when the three died?

[Castaras]

Did the person who left the room win the game?

Were the people playing a game?

If the above question's answer is yes, did the people finish the game?

[smellie_hippie]

Was/were the contents of the gambling game hanging on the hook?

[Shadow]

Were these four people in a situation from which only one person could survive?
Were they playing cards to see who would survive?
Yes.
Yes.

1. Are there visible wounds on any of the three? (scratches, blood, etc.)

2. Is the cause of death the same for all three?

3. Is the cause of death for any of the three immediately apparent? (eg. gunshot to the head, as opposed to suffocation)

4. Were any of the three the direct cause of the accident?

5. Is whatever that caused the deaths of the three people still present in the room?

6. Did the person who left take a weapon from the room?

7. Did any of the four leave their chairs at anytime during the card game?

8. Was the fourth person present in the room when the three died?
1) No.
2) Yes.
3) As per the example that you gave the answer is No.
4) No.
5) Yes.
6) No.
7) No.
8) No.

Did the person who left the room win the game?

Were the people playing a game?

If the above question's answer is yes, did the people finish the game?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

Was/were the contents of the gambling game hanging on the hook?

((content-noun)) (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/content;_ylt=Ar8BaazApUP6NL_Gm5EDn3esgMMF) ((content-adjective)) (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/content_2;_ylt=AhD2RU24._kM3vN7OJ9tBKWsgMMF)
No.

[Ink]

1. Did the three die of suffocation?

2. Did the three die of poisoning?

3. Was there money/monetary assets involved?

4. Did all the four people enter the game knowing that they might possibly die based on the outcome?

5. Were any of the four compelled/coerced into playing the game by anything other than their own free will?

6. Did the accident occur before the card game?

7. Did the accident occur after the fourth person had left the room?

8. Were they gambling for the thing that was on the hook?

9. Is the thing that was on the hook what allowed the fourth person to survive?

[inky13112]

Is this whole thing a twisted April Fools Joke?

K I got nothing.. Good Luck smarter people!! :smallbiggrin:

[Shadow]

1. Did the three die of suffocation?

2. Did the three die of poisoning?

3. Was there money/monetary assets involved?

4. Did all the four people enter the game knowing that they might possibly die based on the outcome?

5. Were any of the four compelled/coerced into playing the game by anything other than their own free will?

6. Did the accident occur before the card game?

7. Did the accident occur after the fourth person had left the room?

8. Were they gambling for the thing that was on the hook?

9. Is the thing that was on the hook what allowed the fourth person to survive?
1) No.
2) No.
3) No.
4) Yes.
5) No.
6) Yes.
7) No.
8) Yes.
9) Yes.

[Castaras]

Are they on the ground?

Are they in the air?

Is this in a fantasy world?

Is this in a science fiction world?

Is this in a modern day world?

[Fus.Weapon 1337]

Were the 4 playing a card game underwater/in space and the item on the hook was a scuba/space suit and the 4 were playing over the single scuba/space suit?

[Cobra_Ikari]

Did Fus just ask the question I was about to ask?

Were any of the corpses burned by fire? Any damaged by chemicals? Any poisoned?

[Ink]

I'm thinking pretty much the same as Fus. They were in a submarine or some such which crashed in an accident. The four are trapped in the room with the one oxygen suit hanging on the door. They play a game of cards to decide who gets the suit. The winner then takes the suit and leaves, and the water floods in and kills the other three.

[Shadow]

1) Are they on the ground?

2) Are they in the air?

3) Is this in a fantasy world?

4) Is this in a science fiction world?

5) Is this in a modern day world?
1) No.
2) No.
3) No.
4) No.
5) Yes.


Were the 4 playing a card game underwater/in space and the item on the hook was a scuba/space suit and the 4 were playing over the single scuba/space suit?
This cannot be answered with a yes or no as it's two different questions entirely.

Did Fus just ask the question I was about to ask?

Were any of the corpses burned by fire? Any damaged by chemicals? Any poisoned?
I have no idea.
No. No. No. And please separate your questions.

[evnafets]

Ok, I think the general consensus is that there were four people in a 'Room'
An accident happened, meaning that everyone in the room would die soon.
There was something hanging on the hook on the door that allowed one person to survive.
They played a hand of cards to determine who would take that item.
That person who won the game took the item off the hook, left the room and survived, the other three died, as a final result of the accident.


----------------------
Ok, questions.

Is the "room" in a vehicle of some kind?
Is the "room" in an aeroplane?
Was the item removed from the hook a parachute?

Ok, so I'm stuck on the airplane theory, right now, but it could be something similar

[Shadow]

Is the "room" in a vehicle of some kind?
Is the "room" in an aeroplane?
Was the item removed from the hook a parachute?
Yes.
No.
No.

[smellie_hippie]

Is the door to the room closed?

Is there anything else in the room not origionally specified in the "setup"?
(If yes, has that "thing" since left the room?)

Were all the occupants living when the fourth person left the room?

Did anything enter the room after the fourth person left?

[Shadow]

Is the door to the room closed?

Is there anything else in the room not origionally specified in the "setup"?
(If yes, has that "thing" since left the room?)

Were all the occupants living when the fourth person left the room?

Did anything enter the room after the fourth person left?

Yes.
That question is a bit of paradox. Reread it.
Yes.
Yes.

[smellie_hippie]

meh... I'll drop that question. :smallwink:

Did the fourth person close the door on his way out?

Was his leaving the room necessary for his survival?

Was there a time factor involved with the fourth person leaving "in time"?

[Shadow]

meh... I'll drop that question. :smallwink:

Did the fourth person close the door on his way out?

Was his leaving the room necessary for his survival?

Was there a time factor involved with the fourth person leaving "in time"?

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Must've played a short game. That, or it was a slow death...

Was the game reasonably short?

Did the players feel rudhed in the game because of impending death?

[evnafets]

Did the vehicle the room is in crash?
Was the vehicle in the air?
Was the vehicle underwater?
Was the vehicle in outer space?
Did the occupants die from trauma to the body?
Did the occupants die from lack of food/water?
Did the occupants die from lack or air?

[Shadow]

Must've played a short game. That, or it was a slow death...

Was the game reasonably short?

Did the players feel rudhed in the game because of impending death?

((short)) (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/short;_ylt=AlVSno6EF3_YuTuVp5iINLSsgMMF) No.
Yes.

Did the vehicle the room is in crash?
Was the vehicle in the air?
Was the vehicle underwater?
Was the vehicle in outer space?
Did the occupants die from trauma to the body?
Did the occupants die from lack of food/water?
Did the occupants die from lack or air?
1) No.
2) No.
3) Yes.
4) No.
5) No.
6) No.
7) Yes.

[Ink]

Hmm, but why did you answer no when I asked if they were compelled to play the game? I'd have reckoned a life or death situation is compelling enough.

1. Did they drown?

2. Was the vehicle a submarine?

3. Was the vehicle a boat?

[Nibleswick]

Did the person who won the game cheat?

[Shadow]

Hmm, but why did you answer no when I asked if they were compelled to play the game? I'd have reckoned a life or death situation is compelling enough.

1. Did they drown?

2. Was the vehicle a submarine?

3. Was the vehicle a boat?

5. Were any of the four compelled/coerced into playing the game by anything other than their own free will?

If you look closely (above), that's not exactly what you asked....
1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) No.

Did the person who won the game cheat?
No.

[Cobra_Ikari]

There is a room.
In the room is a table.
Around the table are four chairs.
Three of the chairs are occupied.
There is a deck of cards on the table.
Four hands have been dealt from the deck.
One of the hands has four aces.
There is a door to the room.
On the door is a hook.


What happened?


The room is in a submarine.
The table is in the room in the submarine.
There are four chairs around said table.
Three of the chairs are occupied by drowned bodies.
There is a soaked deck of cards on the table.
Four hands have been dealt, to the 3 in the room and one other player.
The player no longer in the room had the four aces.
The door is in the submarine.
The hook held some sort of breathing apparatus.

A submarine failed in some way, and 4 members of the crew were faced with drowning. There was only one breathing apparatus, so only one of them could survive. They decided to play a round of a card game to decide fairly who would win. The one who won left the vehicle, using the apparatus to survive the trip to the surface. The others drowned.

Is this a somewhat correct telling of the events?

[Ink]

Yeah, I take it to mean, did any of them feel as though they had no choice but to play the game, if given a choice with no repercussions, would any of them have freely, willingly, entered into the game. Anyhow it doesn't matter now, moving on.

Is what I said before correct?


They were in a submarine which crashed was involved in an accident. The four are trapped in the room with the one oxygen suit hanging on the door. They play a game of cards to decide who gets the suit. The winner then takes the suit and leaves, and the water enters the room and drowns the other three.

Edit: Simue'd! But yeah, what he said.

[Shadow]

Is what I said before correct?

Now that it's in the form of a Yes or No question....

Yes and Yes.

We'll call it an Ink and Cobra tie!

[Ink]

Wahey! Hey, that was fun. Got any more?

[Castaras]

* Picks up brain busters book *

I have quite a few, if you want me to post one.

They're "Sneaky Lateral Thinking Puzzles". And very very annoying to work out. Who wants to try one? :smallbiggrin:

[Ink]

Sure, if Shadow's ok with it.

[Shadow]

Bring it.
I'll play too.

NEW GAME STARTED BY CAS

[Castaras]

Alright...

A woman heard a tune she recognized. She took a gun and shot a stranger. Why?

If you've heard it before let everyone else try to solve it first.

[Vonriel]

Did the woman suffer from a diagnosed psychological condition?
Did the woman suffer from an undiagnosed psychological condition?
Were there any other actions taken between the hearing of the tune and the shooting?

[Castaras]

Did the woman suffer from a diagnosed psychological condition?
Did the woman suffer from an undiagnosed psychological condition?
Were there any other actions taken between the hearing of the tune and the shooting?

No.
No.
Yes.

[Shadow]

1)Was it a real gun?
2) A water gun?
3) Did she enjoy the song?
4) Did the song upset her?

[Castaras]

1)Was it a real gun?
2) A water gun?
3) Did she enjoy the song?
4) Did the song upset her?

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. No

[Shadow]

1) Was it something in the song (ie: lyrics, etc?) that led her to shoot the stranger?

[Castaras]

1) Was it something in the song (ie: lyrics, etc?) that led her to shoot the stranger?

No. Spamalot spamalot spamalot spaaaaaaam!

[evnafets]

Was she shooting the stranger to try and kill them?
Is there anybody else in the area?
Is the woman married?

[Chris the Pontifex]

Were there any other actions taken between the hearing of the tune and the shooting?

1 if so, where these action(s) taken by the shooter?
2 by the stranger?
3 is the location of the shooting relevant?
if so:
4 did it happen on the street?
5 in a building?
6 in / on a vehicle?

7 did the tune tell the shooter something about the victim?
8 is the gender of either characters relevant?
9 are there any other people directly involved that you didnt mention?
10 are there any people you didnt mention relevant to the solution of the riddle?

[Cobra_Ikari]

Was the shooter blind?

Did she intend to kill the man?

Was a real gun given to her in place of a prop gun?

Were real bullets given to her in place of blanks?

[Selrahc]

Was the song a hypnotic trigger of some kind?

[Castaras]

Was she shooting the stranger to try and kill them?
Is there anybody else in the area?
Is the woman married?
Let's say she wasn't.
No.
Let's say she isn't.

1 if so, where these action(s) taken by the shooter?
2 by the stranger?
3 is the location of the shooting relevant?
if so:
4 did it happen on the street?
5 in a building?
6 in / on a vehicle?

7 did the tune tell the shooter something about the victim?
8 is the gender of either characters relevant?
9 are there any other people directly involved that you didnt mention?
10 are there any people you didnt mention relevant to the solution of the riddle?
1 Yes.
2 No.
3 Yes.
4 No.
5 Yes.
6 No.
7 Can you rephrase that question please?
8 No.
9 No.
10 No.

Was the shooter blind?

Did she intend to kill the man?

Was a real gun given to her in place of a prop gun?

Were real bullets given to her in place of blanks?
No.

Let's say she wasn't.

No.

No.

Was the song a hypnotic trigger of some kind?
No.

[Cobra_Ikari]

Were they doing some dramatic form of bullet catch?

Was it assisted suicide?

When the woman pulled the trigger, did she know it was going to fire a bullet?

When she fired at the man, did she expect to kill him?

Was she aiming at a generally fatal area to be shot in?

Was the building an area for performing some kind of art or show?

[Castaras]

Were they doing some dramatic form of bullet catch?

Was it assisted suicide?

When the woman pulled the trigger, did she know it was going to fire a bullet?

When she fired at the man, did she expect to kill him?

Was she aiming at a generally fatal area to be shot in?

Was the building an area for performing some kind of art or show?
No.
No.
Yes.
No.
No.
No.

[Vonriel]

1) Were they playing Russian Roulette?

2) Between the song and the shooting, did the two have an argument?

3) Was the song the signal to start a game?

4) Have either the woman or the dead person committed previous crimes?

[Castaras]

1) Were they playing Russian Roulette?

2) Between the song and the shooting, did the two have an argument?

3) Was the song the signal to start a game?

4) Have either the woman or the dead person committed previous crimes?
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes

[Cobra_Ikari]

Did the man she shot die?

Were they in a house or apartment?

If so, did the house belong to either of the characters?

Were they in an office building?

If so, did either of them work there?

Did the gun belong to the woman?

Was the woman generally armed?

Was the woman comitting a crime?

Was the man committing a crime?

[Castaras]

Did the man she shot die?

Were they in a house or apartment?

If so, did the house belong to either of the characters?

Were they in an office building?

If so, did either of them work there?

Did the gun belong to the woman?

Was the woman generally armed?

Was the woman comitting a crime?

Was the man committing a crime?
Let's say he didn't.
Yes
Yes
No
No
Yes
Yes
No
Yes

[Krystal_Tiger]

Was the man comiting a crime in the womans house?
Was the woman shooting him to stop him from doing this?
Whold something bad have happaned if she didn't shoot him?

[Castaras]

Was the man comiting a crime in the womans house?
Was the woman shooting him to stop him from doing this?
Whold something bad have happaned if she didn't shoot him?

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes

[MaggieTheCat]

Well, I've been following this thread for a couple days, so I figured I'd join in...

1) Were they in the woman's place of residence?
2) Was the man trying to steal something of her's?
3) If so, did she shoot him to keep him from stealing said item(s)?
4) Did the woman shoot the man in self defense?
5) Did she shoot him to protect someone else?

[Castaras]

Well, I've been following this thread for a couple days, so I figured I'd join in...

1) Were they in the woman's place of residence?
2) Was the man trying to steal something of her's?
3) If so, did she shoot him to keep him from stealing said item(s)?
4) Did the woman shoot the man in self defense?
5) Did she shoot him to protect someone else?
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. No

EDIT: And welcome, maggie! Enjoy your time here!

[Cobra_Ikari]

Hi Maggie! Maggie the Cat? I think I've heard of you...

Did the woman use the gun as part of her profession?

Was she trained in how to use that gun?

Did the man accidentally start the music?

Was the music tied to some sort of security alarm system?

[smellie_hippie]

1. Had the man committed a crime in her residence before?

2. Did the music originate from the man?

[Castaras]

Hi Maggie! Maggie the Cat? I think I've heard of you...

Did the woman use the gun as part of her profession?

Was she trained in how to use that gun?

Did the man accidentally start the music?

Was the music tied to some sort of security alarm system?
Lets say she doesn't.
Probably yes.
Yes.
No.

1. Had the man committed a crime in her residence before?

2. Did the music originate from the man?
1. No
2. From the man, no.

[smellie_hippie]

Did the man forget to turn off his cell phone? :smalltongue:

[Cobra_Ikari]

Did the music originate from something the woman owned?

If so, was it something the man was trying to steal?

A music box?

A TV?

A radio?

[MaggieTheCat]

Thanks for the welcome, guys. :) Maggie the Cat was actually a character from the old Disney animated series, Gargoyles. But I've never gone by this handle anywhere else, so if you thought you knew me from elsewhere, Cobra Ikari, I'm afraid not. ^^;

And, just to make this post relevant, a few questions:

1) Did the music alert the woman to the man's presence and, thus, the crime he was committing?
2) Is the woman's profession relevant to the riddle?
3) Did the man specifically choose this woman to commit a crime against, or was this a random act on his part?

Edit:

3) Did the man specifically choose this woman to commit a crime against?
4) or was it a random act on his part?

[Shadow]

Was the crime being commited adultery?

[Castaras]

Did the man forget to turn off his cell phone? :smalltongue:
Nope. :smallamused:

Did the music originate from something the woman owned?

If so, was it something the man was trying to steal?

A music box?

A TV?

A radio?
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
No

1) Did the music alert the woman to the man's presence and, thus, the crime he was committing?
2) Is the woman's profession relevant to the riddle?
3) Did the man specifically choose this woman to commit a crime against?
4) or was it a random act on his part?
1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. Yes

Was the crime being commited adultery?
No

[Cobra_Ikari]

A man broke into a woman's house and tried to steal, among other things, a music box. He accidentally made the music box begin to play, which woke the woman. Upon finding the burglar in her house she shot him in a non-lethal way in order to protect herself.

Is this an accurate telling?

[Castaras]

A man broke into a woman's house and tried to steal, among other things, a music box. He accidentally made the music box begin to play, which woke the woman. Upon finding the burglar in her house she shot him in a non-lethal way in order to protect herself.

Is this an accurate telling?

Cobra Ikari, congratulations. You have solved the riddle. You are the winner.

[MaggieTheCat]

Whee, those are fun. Congrats, Cobra Ikari! Does anyone have anymore?

[Cobra_Ikari]

I think I'm winning these because I'm on so long I get 20 questions to everyone else's 1... >.>

...not that I'm complaining, mind.

...I'm no good at riddles (see VV for an example), so someone else should do the next one...any volunteers?

[Castaras]

* Picks up another riddle grinning evilly. *

[Ink]

Sure, keep 'em coming.

[Castaras]

Rightio:

In a very exclusive restaurant several dozen diners are eating a top-class meal upstairs. Downstairs, precisely the same meal is being served at the same number of empty places where there is nobody to eat it. What is going on?

[Vonriel]

Hm, I think I'll start with the obvious.

1) Are the upstairs and downstairs part of the same restaurant?
2) Was the kitchen staff making extras for an as of yet unknown reason?
3) Will the staff be allowed to eat the extra meals that are set out?

[Ink]

1. Are people expected to come in later and eat downstairs?

2. Did the people downstairs leave for some reason?

3. Is there anyone downstairs at all?

[Castaras]

1) Are the upstairs and downstairs part of the same restaurant?
2) Was the kitchen staff making extras for an as of yet unknown reason?
3) Will the staff be allowed to eat the extra meals that are set out?

1)Yes
2)Yes
3)If they want to.

1. Are people expected to come in later and eat downstairs?

2. Did the people downstairs leave for some reason?

3. Is there anyone downstairs at all?
1. Yes
2. No
3. No

[Ink]

1. Are the same people who are eating upstairs expected to come down and eat again downstairs?

2. Were the meals served at the same time upstairs and downstairs?

3. Is there anything different about the way the meals are served upstairs and downstairs?

4. Is there anything different about the setting of the restaurant upstairs and downstairs?

[Castaras]

1. Are the same people who are eating upstairs expected to come down and eat again downstairs?

2. Were the meals served at the same time upstairs and downstairs?

3. Is there anything different about the way the meals are served upstairs and downstairs?

4. Is there anything different about the setting of the restaurant upstairs and downstairs?
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes

[Zeb The Troll]

Did the same staff set up both the upstairs and the downstairs table?

Did two different people call to make the same reservation, which in turn confused the staff into thinking there were two seperate but identical parties happening at the same time?

[CLouD2002]

Are the people in some sort of contest?

[Castaras]

Did the same staff set up both the upstairs and the downstairs table?

Did two different people call to make the same reservation, which in turn confused the staff into thinking there were two seperate but identical parties happening at the same time?

Yes

No


Are the people in some sort of contest?
No

[Cobra_Ikari]

Does this have some sort of "heaven and hell" theme?

[Castaras]

Does this have some sort of "heaven and hell" theme?

Nope. Blahblahblah

[Chris the Pontifex]

is the floor a really big mirror?

does infity have anything to do with this?

[Ink]

1. Do the people upstairs know that they will be eating again downstairs?

2. Did they come into the restaurant knowing that they would be eating two meals?

3. Are the people going to finish the upstairs meal?

4. Are all the people going to come downstairs at the same time?

5. Are the people sitting on chairs around a table to eat upstairs?

6. Will the people be sitting on chairs around a table to eat downstairs?

[Castaras]

1. Do the people upstairs know that they will be eating again downstairs?

2. Did they come into the restaurant knowing that they would be eating two meals?

3. Are the people going to finish the upstairs meal?

4. Are all the people going to come downstairs at the same time?

5. Are the people sitting on chairs around a table to eat upstairs?

6. Will the people be sitting on chairs around a table to eat downstairs?
1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes

[Chris the Pontifex]

I wasnt joking you know. I know some infinity riddles that are somewhat like this

But I'll just take your silence as a 1: no and 2: no. hmm... that sounds oddly familiar.... moving on:

1. does the staff know the people are going to go downstairs ?
2. wont their meals be cold by the time they come down?
3. does it matter that their eating? (in other words: could it be any other activity?)

[Castaras]

I wasnt joking you know. I know some infinity riddles that are somewhat like this

But I'll just take your silence as a 1: no and 2: no. hmm... that sounds oddly familiar.... moving on:

1. does the staff know the people are going to go downstairs ?
2. wont their meals be cold by the time they come down?
3. does it matter that their eating? (in other words: could it be any other activity?)

Ack >.< I missed your questions. Yes, both answers = no.

1. No
2. Maybe (Yes, it isn't a yes/no answer. Sue me)
3. No

[Zeb The Troll]

Is the staff competing in some kind of Hell's Kitchen food competition?

[Castaras]

Is the staff competing in some kind of Hell's Kitchen food competition?

Nope. Blankity.

[CLouD2002]

In a very exclusive restaurant several dozen diners are eating a top-class meal upstairs. Downstairs, precisely the same meal is being served at the same number of empty places where there is nobody to eat it. What is going on?

What we know:

1) Are the upstairs and downstairs part of the same restaurant? Yes
2) Was the kitchen staff making extras for an as of yet unknown reason? Yes
3) Will the staff be allowed to eat the extra meals that are set out? If they want to
4) Are people expected to come in later and eat downstairs? Yes
5) Did the people downstairs leave for some reason? No
6) Is there anyone downstairs at all? No
7) Are the same people who are eating upstairs expected to come down and eat again downstairs? Yes
8) Were the meals served at the same time upstairs and downstairs? Yes
9) Is there anything different about the way the meals are served upstairs and downstairs? No
10) Is there anything different about the setting of the restaurant upstairs and downstairs? Yes
11) Did the same staff set up both the upstairs and the downstairs table? Yes
12) Did two different people call to make the same reservation, which in turn confused the staff into thinking there were two separate but identical parties happening at the same time? No
13) Are the people in some sort of contest? No
14) Does this have some sort of "heaven and hell" theme? No
15) Is the floor a really big mirror? No
16) Does infinity have anything to do with this? No
17) Do the people upstairs know that they will be eating again downstairs? No
18) Did they come into the restaurant knowing that they would be eating two meals? Yes
19) Are the people going to finish the upstairs meal? Yes
20) Are all the people going to come downstairs at the same time? Yes
21) Are the people sitting on chairs around a table to eat upstairs? Yes
22) Will the people be sitting on chairs around a table to eat downstairs? Yes
23) Does the staff know the people are going to go downstairs? No
24) Won’t their meals be cold by the time they come down? maybe
25) Does it matter that their eating? (in other words: could it be any other activity?) No
26) Is the staff competing in some kind of Hell's Kitchen food competition? No


I have put a line through the questions that don’t matter and have bolded the ones that do (IMO that is). We know that the food was served the same but something about the bottom floor is different than the top. Now what is different?......My yes/no question is...

Is the difference in the top and bottom floor relevant

[Castaras]

Is the difference in the top and bottom floor relevant

Yes. Ringringringringringbananaphone.

[CLouD2002]

Was the meal perpared differently down stairs than upstairs?

25) Does it matter that their eating? (in other words: could it be any other activity?) No.....No to does it matter or no to can it be any activity?

[Zeb The Troll]

Is the upstairs outdoors?
Is the meal a buffet?
I'd also like clarification on #25 from Cloud's list so I'll split it into two questions since I'm not sure which part the "no" is applying to.
Does it matter that they're eating?
Could it be any other activity that's relevant to the solution?

[Castaras]

Was the meal perpared differently down stairs than upstairs?

25) Does it matter that their eating? (in other words: could it be any other activity?) No.....No to does it matter or no to can it be any activity?

No.

No, as in it doesn't matter whether they're eating.


Is the upstairs outdoors?
Is the meal a buffet?
I'd also like clarification on #25 from Cloud's list so I'll split it into two questions since I'm not sure which part the "no" is applying to.
Does it matter that they're eating?
Could it be any other activity that's relevant to the solution?
Yes
If you like.
No
Yes

[Zeb The Troll]

Is precipitation in the forecast?
Is this a party?

[Castaras]

Is precipitation in the forecast?
Is this a party?

Yes
Yes Nothing to see here, move along now.

[Zeb The Troll]

Is the downstairs being set up so the party can come inside when the bad weather hits?

[Castaras]

Is the downstairs being set up so the party can come inside when the bad weather hits?

Yes. Blaaaaagh!

[Xaspian]

Does anyone in the party know that bad weather will hit?
Does anyone in the party know that bad weather in likely to hit?
Does any of the staff know that bad weather will hit?
Does any of the staff know that bad weather in likely to hit?

Are any Royalty Present?
Are the guests at the party human?

[CLouD2002]

So a party is going on outside until bad weather hits. Then they are going to finish the party inside.

Is this what is going on?

[Castaras]

Does anyone in the party know that bad weather will hit?
Does anyone in the party know that bad weather in likely to hit?
Does any of the staff know that bad weather will hit?
Does any of the staff know that bad weather in likely to hit?

Are any Royalty Present?
Are the guests at the party human?
No
Yes
No
Yes

So a party is going on outside until bad weather hits. Then they are going to finish the party inside.

Is this what is going on?
Yes. * Gives Cookie *

If anyone else wants to post a riddle go ahead. Otherwise I might post another tomorrow...

[Zeb The Troll]

Yes. * Gives Cookie *Wait, isn't that exactly what I said?

[Castaras]

Wait, isn't that exactly what I said?

>.<

I really need to read things more, rather than "just" answer them.

* Cookie to Zeb and a perfectly ordinary pie as well to apologize *

[CLouD2002]

Ah but you asked if the downstairs is being set up for the bad weather hits...i asked if that was going on.... ;-)...*gives cookie to Zeb* But you are the one that said it first

I have one

There is a table in the middle of the room with a gun and a dead guy on it with 52 bicycles spread across the room. What happened?

If you have heard this one before let the others try to figure it out first before you guess at it

[Castaras]

Did the man's death have something to do with the bicycles?

Is the 52 bicycles being near the dead man a coincidence?

[CLouD2002]

Did the man's death have something to do with the bicycles?

Is the 52 bicycles being near the dead man a coincidence?

1) Yes

2) Yes and no.....the 52 bicycles are all over the room

[Zeb The Troll]

Ah poo. I know this one. :smallfrown:

[CLouD2002]

please dont tell :P....i have another one too ;-)....this one is just my favorite!

[Zeb The Troll]

please dont tell :P....i have another one too ;-)....this one is just my favorite!I'm not telling. But I had fun with the last one and I don't get to guess on this one. Telling wouldn't be fun either. Then I couldn't even giggle at other people's guesses.

*waits patiently for the forum geniuses to solve this one so we can move on to the next one*

:smallcool:

[Cobra_Ikari]

Did the man make the bicycles?

Did the man buy the bicycles?

Is there significance to the fact that there are 52 weeks in a year?

Did the man commit suicide?

[Xaspian]

Is there string involved?

Are they real, wheeled, pedalled bicycles?
Are they Excercise bikes?
Are they motorbikes?

Was the man shot?
Did he die as a result of being shot?

[Zeb The Troll]

Hmmm, since Cloud doesn't appear to be on at the moment, let me help move this along.


Did the man make the bicycles?

Did the man buy the bicycles?

Is there significance to the fact that there are 52 weeks in a year?

Did the man commit suicide?
No
No
No
No


Is there string involved?

Are they real, wheeled, pedalled bicycles?
Are they Excercise bikes?
Are they motorbikes?

Was the man shot?
Did he die as a result of being shot?No
No
No
No
Yes
Yes

[Cobra_Ikari]

Was the man shot over a game of cards?

[Zeb The Troll]

Was the man shot over a game of cards?Yes
I don't suppose there's much more to figure out about this one now, is there? I don't have any of these though.

[CLouD2002]

*Cookie to Cobra*

Man was shot cheating at a card game

Next:

There is cabin found in the middle of the woods. There are people inside dead and it is locked from the inside. What happend?

[Xaspian]

Did they lock the door and kill each other?
Were evil squirrels involved somehow?
Racoons?
Suicide pact?

[Cobra_Ikari]

I know this one. >.>

...figured it out nearly questionless my first time. *proud*

[evnafets]

Confused about the last riddle. How does 52 bicycles -> a pack of cards?

[Cobra_Ikari]

You've never heard of Bicycle playing cards? They're probably the most common ones out there!

[Ink]

1. Are there visible injuries on the dead?

2. Did they all die from the same cause?

3. Did they all die at the same time?

4. Is there any entry/exit point other than the locked door?

5. Did anyone leave the cabin at any time?

6. Is the cause of death a crime?

7. Is the cause of death suicide?

8. Is the cause of death an accident?

[CLouD2002]

Did they lock the door and kill each other?
Were evil squirrels involved somehow?
Racoons?
Suicide pact?

1) No
2) NO
3) NO
4) No


1. Are there visible injuries on the dead?

2. Did they all die from the same cause?

3. Did they all die at the same time?

4. Is there any entry/exit point other than the locked door?

5. Did anyone leave the cabin at any time?

6. Is the cause of death a crime?

7. Is the cause of death suicide?

8. Is the cause of death an accident?

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) No
5) No
6) No
7) No
8) Yes

[Zeb The Troll]

1. Are there more than two bodies in the room?
2. More than five?
3. Are there any weapons in the room?
4. Was there a fire (for warmth)?

[CLouD2002]

1. Are there more than two bodies in the room?
2. More than five?
3. Are there any weapons in the room?
4. Was there a fire (for warmth)?

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) No

[Zeb The Troll]

Hmmm. This is probably totally irrelevant but...

1. More than ten bodies?
2. More than twenty?
3. Any nonhuman bodies?

[CLouD2002]

Hmmm. This is probably totally irrelevant but...

1. More than ten bodies?
2. More than twenty?
3. Any nonhuman bodies?

yes it is ;-)

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No

[Zeb The Troll]

1. Any relevant furniture?
2. Any famous people I can pose for blackmail pictures? (wait, getting off track, never mind)
3. Is there a gas stove?
4. Is the pilot light lit?
5. Any incorporeal manifestations?!

[CLouD2002]

1. Any relevant furniture?
2. Any famous people I can pose for blackmail pictures? (wait, getting off track, never mind)
3. Is there a gas stove?
4. Is the pilot light lit?
5. Any incorporeal manifestations?!

1) No
2) No...well maybe....doesnt matter
3) No
4) No
5) No

[unstattedCommoner]

1) Has the cabin suffered any damage?
2) If not, is it adequately ventilated?
3) Are the visible injuries on the bodies related to the cause of death?
4) Does it appear that those inside tried to get out?
5) Is the key to the locked door missing?

[CLouD2002]

1) Has the cabin suffered any damage?
2) If not, is it adequately ventilated?
3) Are the visible injuries on the bodies related to the cause of death?
4) Does it appear that those inside tried to get out?
5) Is the key to the locked door missing?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Yes
4) No
5) No

[Zeb The Troll]

1. Was the damage to the cabin fire damage?
2. Were the injuries burns?
3. Are there any tipped over candle holders?
4. Can you tell I should go to bed and stop fantasizing about fire?

[CLouD2002]

1. Was the damage to the cabin fire damage?
2. Were the injuries burns?
3. Are there any tipped over candle holders?
4. Can you tell I should go to bed and stop fantasizing about fire?

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) No
4) Maybe....

[Zeb The Troll]

1. Did any of them smoke? And he lit up and the other 49 guests all said "put that out, loser!" and accidentally knock it out of his hand and it rolled under the couch and caught it on fire and they all died?

[Ink]

1. Was the cabin set on fire by a cigarette?

2. Was the cabin set on fire by a gas stove?

3. Was the cabin set on fire by an electrical fault?

4. Was the cabin set on fire by a forest fire?

5. Was the cabin set on fire from the outside?

6. Did the people all die from the fire?

[CLouD2002]

1. Did any of them smoke? And he lit up and the other 49 guests all said "put that out, loser!" and accidentally knock it out of his hand and it rolled under the couch and caught it on fire and they all died?

1) No...and no


1. Was the cabin set on fire by a cigarette?

2. Was the cabin set on fire by a gas stove?

3. Was the cabin set on fire by an electrical fault?

4. Was the cabin set on fire by a forest fire?

5. Was the cabin set on fire from the outside?

6. Did the people all die from the fire?

1) No
2) No
3) No
4) No
5) No
6) No

[Xaspian]

Was the fire started intentionally?

Is the person (/people) who started the fire in the room?

[CLouD2002]

Was the fire started intentionally?

Is the person (/people) who started the fire in the room?

1) No
2) No

[MaggieTheCat]

1) I think this was sort of answered earlier, but just to clarify...did someone enter the room and then leave before the accident?
2) Did the people die from smoke inhalation?
3) Are there more than 25 bodies?
4) ...30?
5) ...40?
6) ...50?
7) Is the number of bodies in the cabin still relevant?

[evnafets]

Was the fire the main cause of death?
Is the forest around the cabin burning, or has it been burnt?
Are there people around outside the cabin?

[Zeb The Troll]

3) Are there more than 25 bodies?
4) ...30?
5) ...40?
6) ...50?
7) Is the number of bodies in the cabin still relevant?Maggie, Cloud stated earlier that the number of bodies was irrelevant.

[CLouD2002]

1) I think this was sort of answered earlier, but just to clarify...did someone enter the room and then leave before the accident?
2) Did the people die from smoke inhalation?
3) Are there more than 25 bodies?
4) ...30?
5) ...40?
6) ...50?
7) Is the number of bodies in the cabin still relevant?

1) No
2) No
3) Sure
4) Why not
5) Could be
6) That is alot of people
7) no


Was the fire the main cause of death?
Is the forest around the cabin burning, or has it been burnt?
Are there people around outside the cabin?

1) No
2) No
3) No


((Does anyone want a hint ;-) ))

[Zeb The Troll]

Wait, I thought you said the cabin and the bodies were burned. This was not the cause of death?

[Cobra_Ikari]

Nope, Zeb. Not the primary one. :)

[Zeb The Troll]

Nope, Zeb. Not the primary one. :)*headdesk*

Was an act of nature involved?

[Cobra_Ikari]

*headdesk*

Was an act of nature involved?

Perhaps? Or perhaps not.

[Ink]

Ok, so fire was not the cause of death.

1. Did the fire start before the people died?

2. Did the fire start after the people died?

3. Did the people die quick deaths?

4. Was the fire caused by the accident?

5. Was the accident caused by the fire?

6. Was there an explosion?

7. Was there a crash?

8. Is the cabin a log cabin?

9. Is the cabin an airplane cabin?

10. Is the cabin a spaceship cabin?

[CLouD2002]

Ok, so fire was not the cause of death.

1. Did the fire start before the people died?

2. Did the fire start after the people died?

3. Did the people die quick deaths?

4. Was the fire caused by the accident?

5. Was the accident caused by the fire?

6. Was there an explosion?

7. Was there a crash?

8. Is the cabin a log cabin?

9. Is the cabin an airplane cabin?

10. Is the cabin a spaceship cabin?

1) No
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) No
6) Yes
7) Yes
8) No
9) Yes
10) No

[Ink]

Hmm, ok. So the cabin was a cabin in an airplane. The airplane crashed in the woods and subsequently there was an explosion and a fire. The passengers in the cabin died as a result.

Is that correct?

[CLouD2002]

Hmm, ok. So the cabin was a cabin in an airplane. The airplane crashed in the woods and subsequently there was an explosion and a fire. The passengers in the cabin died as a result.

Is that correct?

Yes....*Gives cookie to Ink*....Whew though nobody was going to questions about the cabin itself... ;-)

[evnafets]

I will have to admit I had heard this one before.
Hope I didn't give away too much with my question. But I knew you guys were off down the wrong track.

Ok, heres another, I think I can remember the details.
------------------
A man goes past a window, and hears a telephone ringing.
He howls in dismay.
A short time later he dies.

[Shadow]

1) Did he die a natural death?
2) Was he murdered?
3) Did he hear someone answer the phone?
4) Was the window open?

[evnafets]

1) Did he die a natural death?: No
2) Was he murdered?: No
3) Did he hear someone answer the phone?: No
4) Was the window open?: No

[Cobra_Ikari]

Was he expecting a phone call?

Did he kill himself?

[evnafets]

Was he expecting a phone call?

Did he kill himself?

Was he expecting a phone call? No

Did he kill himself? Yes

[Shadow]

Did he look up towards the sound of the ringing phone (thus not paying attention to where he was going) and accidentally fall in a well or something?

[edit] OK so that's a no...

Did he jump off a building and, as he passed a window heard a phone ringing, a short time later hitting the ground and dying on impact?

[Vonriel]

1. Do the ringing telephone and the man howling in dismay have any relation?
2. Did the man commit suicide? Answered..
3. Did the telephone ringing remind him of someone he knew/lost?
4. Did the man know the person who owned the building/living area the window was attached to?

[Cobra_Ikari]

Did he see something through the window that led to his suicide?

[evnafets]

Did he look up towards the sound of the ringing phone (thus not paying attention to where he was going) and accidentally fall in a well or something?

[edit] OK so that's a no...
Correct, thats a no.



1. Do the ringing telephone and the man howling in dismay have any relation? Yes
2. Did the man commit suicide? Answered..
3. Did the telephone ringing remind him of someone he knew/lost? No
4. Did the man know the person who owned the building/living area the window was attached to? No


Did he see something through the window that led to his suicide? No

Silkenfists edit:

Did he jump off a building and, as he passed a window heard a phone ringing, a short time later hitting the ground and dying on impact? yes.

Still need to explain the howl of dismay though

[Shadow]

Did he jump off a building and, as he passed a window heard a phone ringing, wailing in dismay at his horrible life; a short time later hitting the ground and dying on impact?

or

Did he jump off a building and, as he passed a window heard a phone ringing, wailing in dismay at his awful choice to commit suicide; a short time later hitting the ground and dying on impact?

[Cobra_Ikari]

Did he jump off, look through the window, hear his phone ringing, howl because he couldn't answer it, and then hit the ground and die?

[evnafets]

Did he jump off a building and, as he passed a window heard a phone ringing, wailing in dismay at his horrible life; a short time later hitting the ground and dying on impact?
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No.

[quote=Shadow;2378516]
Did he jump off a building and, as he passed a window heard a phone ringing, wailing in dismay at his awful choice to commit suicide; a short time later hitting the ground and dying on impact?
closer


Did he jump off, look through the window, hear his phone ringing, howl because he couldn't answer it, and then hit the ground and die?
Yes

Its gone fairly quickly (probably a bit too quickly - I guess I forgot something)

I'll extend the question a little bit. Can you explain now
- Why did the man commit suicide?
- Why did he howl because of hearing the phone?

[Ink]

Could it be that he committed suicide because he was depressed and alone and had no friends, and when the phone rang he regretted jumping because he realised then that wasn't all alone and someone did care enough to call him after all?

or

Maybe he had been desperately hoping for someone to call (someone = lover? friend? family?) and after waiting for ages he gave up and jumped off the building, and when the phone rang he howled because the call finally came and he couldn't answer?

[Zeb The Troll]

Maybe he had been desperately hoping for someone to call (someone = lover? friend? family?) and after waiting for ages he gave up and jumped off the building, and when the phone rang he howled because the call finally came and he couldn't answer?That would've been my guess.

[evnafets]

fairly good guesses, but no.

[Zeb The Troll]

Its gone fairly quickly (probably a bit too quickly - I guess I forgot something)

I'll extend the question a little bit. Can you explain now
- Why did the man commit suicide?
- Why did he howl because of hearing the phone?Was he a werewolf?
Did the phone ringing hurt his ears?

:smallsmile:

[Castaras]

Darnit, I've heard this one before. *sigh*

At least, I think I have. I'll keep quiet for the moment.

[Ink]

Hmm, no? Ok time for a new train of thought.

1. Was the man dying or sick (either mentally or physically)?

2. Did the man tell anyone or leave any indication that he wanted to commit suicide?

3. Did this man live alone?

4. Had this man lost anyone close to him recently?

5. Did the man have an idea who was calling?

6. Did the man have an idea what the call was about?

7. Did the caller know the man and vice versa?

8. Is this scenario set in our world?

9. Is it set in a futuristic world?

10. Is it set in a historic world?

11. Is it set in a fantasy world?

[evnafets]

Was he a werewolf?
Did the phone ringing hurt his ears?

:smallsmile:
Was he a werewolf?: No
Did the phone ringing hurt his ears?: No


Hmm, no? Ok time for a new train of thought.


1. Was the man dying or sick (either mentally or physically)?: No
2. Did the man tell anyone or leave any indication that he wanted to commit suicide? : No
3. Did this man live alone?: Yes
4. Had this man lost anyone close to him recently?: Yes
5. Did the man have an idea who was calling? : No
6. Did the man have an idea what the call was about? : Yes
7. Did the caller know the man and vice versa? : No
8. Is this scenario set in our world? : Yes
9. Is it set in a futuristic world? : Yes
10. Is it set in a historic world? : No
11. Is it set in a fantasy world?: No

[Zeb The Troll]

8. Is this scenario set in our world? : Yes
9. Is it set in a futuristic world? : YesAren't these two things mutually exclusive? It's splitting hairs, I know, but from the way the questions were worded I thought he meant to ask them in such a way that only one of them would be yes. I may be wrong.

Anyway, you're saying that the setting is Earth in the future, yes?

Was the person he lost his wife?
His child?
Did they die or just leave?
Did the caller know the person who the man had lost?

[Vonriel]

Was the caller the person the man had thought lost?

Edit: Doh, I was thinking about the other one and got the questions mixed up..

[Zeb The Troll]

Was the caller the person the man had thought lost?It's already been established that the man and the caller did not know each other.

[Ink]

Ok here goes:

It's the future. The world is now ruled by robots. Humans have been fighting a losing battle against the robots for ages but now their numbers have dwindled down to almost nothing. So the final human outpost launches a last ditch full-on attack against the robots which fails spectacularly, and the humans are slaughtered; but this man survived. Having lost all his friends and convinced that he is the only survivor the man takes his own life, but when the phone rings he realises that someone else must have also survived after all.

Is this correct?

Well considering my other guess involved giant killer space bees...

[evnafets]

Full marks to Ink.
I don't remember the bit about the robots.
I think sole survivor of a plague was more like it.
But its close enough to pay out.

(Sorry, I completely forgot about this post for a while)
I can't determine who really won, so cookies to everybody, and extra chocolate sprinkles for Ink.

Next riddle anyone?

[Zeb The Troll]

Full marks to Ink.
I don't remember the bit about the robots.
I think sole survivor of a plague was more like it.
But its close enough to pay out.

(Sorry, I completely forgot about this post for a while)
I can't determine who really won, so cookies to everybody, and extra chocolate sprinkles for Ink.

Next riddle anyone?Wow, I never would have gotten that. Nice work, Ink.

[Ink]

Yum, cookie, and thanks. Plague makes sense, wonder why I didn't think of it. When mentioned it was set in the future my train of thought went all far-fetched I guess.

Anyhow I have a riddle, which I hope I remember accurately:

There are four people called A, B, C, and D. A sends B a parcel. B opens it, looks inside, reseals it and sends it to C. C opens it, looks inside, and then buries it in his backyard. What is going on?

[evnafets]

Did someone/something die?
Does D come into this at all?
Did D die?

[Ink]

Did someone/something die?
Does D come into this at all?
Did D die?

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

We're off to a flying start!

Edit: Ever notice how these riddles always tend to involve death of some sort?

[Zeb The Troll]

Let me just take a leap. D died. A is a member of the organization responsible for sending the body home, perhaps the military. B is a relative of the deceased D and receives the coffin containing D's body. When B confirms that D is a relation, the coffin is sent to the mortician, C, who then inters D in the graveyard, his "back yard".

Am I close?

[Ink]

Let me just take a leap. D died. A is a member of the organization responsible for sending the body home, perhaps the military. B is a relative of the deceased D and receives the coffin containing D's body. When B confirms that D is a relation, the coffin is sent to the mortician, C, who then inters D in the graveyard, his "back yard".

Am I close?

Nope, 'fraid not. Except for the "D died" part.

[unstattedCommoner]

1. Were the contents of the package owned by D before his/her death?
2. Does A address the package to C?
3. If so, is B acting in any official capacity when he/she opens it?

[Zeb The Troll]

Okay, let me be a little less specific this time and see if it helps.

Does the package contain D's remains?
Is A related to D?
Is B?
Is C?

[Ink]

1. Were the contents of the package owned by D before his/her death?
2. Does A address the package to C?
3. If so, is B acting in any official capacity when he/she opens it?

1. Yes.
2. No.
3. No.


Okay, let me be a little less specific this time and see if it helps.

Does the package contain D's remains?
Is A related to D?
Is B?
Is C?

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. No.

[Zeb The Troll]

Hmmm.

Did D give the package to A before he died?
Are there instructions inside the package detailing what should be done with it/its contents?

[Ink]

Hmmm.

Did D give the package to A before he died?
Are there instructions inside the package detailing what should be done with it/its contents?

1. No.
2. No.

[Zeb The Troll]

I'm battin' a thousand here. :smallannoyed:

Hey, just realized that a couple of posts ago you only answered three of my four questions but it's not clear which one didn't get answered. Though I suppose they'll all four be NO.

Does A address the package to B?
Does B address it to C?
Was the mail even used to get the package from one person to another?
Did D know A?
Did D know B?
Did D know C?
Did A know the package would be passed to C by B?

[Ink]

I'm battin' a thousand here. :smallannoyed:

Hey, just realized that a couple of posts ago you only answered three of my four questions but it's not clear which one didn't get answered. Though I suppose they'll all four be NO.

Ah sorry, I overlooked the last one. I've editted it in; all four answers are still "no".



Does A address the package to B?
Does B address it to C?
Was the mail even used to get the package from one person to another?
Did D know A?
Did D know B?
Did D know C?
Did A know the package would be passed to C by B?

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. No.
5. No.
6. No.
7. Yes.

[Zeb The Troll]

Hey, now we're gettin' somewhere. I dunno where, but it's somewhere. :smallsmile:

Reposting the question so I don't have to scroll so far up.


There are four people called A, B, C, and D. A sends B a parcel. B opens it, looks inside, reseals it and sends it to C. C opens it, looks inside, and then buries it in his backyard. What is going on?Also summarizing the questions asked to this point.

Did someone/something die? Yes.
Does D come into this at all? Yes.
Did D die? Yes.
Were the contents of the package owned by D before his/her death? Yes.
Does A address the package to C? No.
If so, is B acting in any official capacity when he/she opens it? No.
Does the package contain D's remains? No.
Is A related to D? No.
Is B? No.
Is C? No.
Did D give the package to A before he died? No.
Are there instructions inside the package detailing what should be done with it/its contents? No.
Does A address the package to B? Yes.
Does B address it to C? Yes.
Was the mail even used to get the package from one person to another? Yes.
Did D know A? No.
Did D know B? No.
Did D know C? No.
Did A know the package would be passed to C by B? Yes.

1. Is the manner of D's death important to the answer?
2. Are the contents of the package expected to grow after they're buried?
3. Is the package a time capsule?

I know, I'm reaching now. I have no idea and I'm hoping to stumble on to something.

[evnafets]

Well the hint there was a death was that C buried the package in the backyard. You normally bury dead things.
D wasn't mentioned at all, so I took the leap that D had died.
If D has died, and the package was buried, does that mean D is in the package?

Other questions I am asking myself right now
Why send the package from A to B to C? What sort of packages go like that?
What was in the package?

------------------------
Now some yes/no questions:

Are A,B,C and D all human?
Was D alive when this whole process began?
Was there something dead in the package when B received it?
Was there something dead in the package when C received it?
Was D in the package?

[Ink]

1. Is the manner of D's death important to the answer?
2. Are the contents of the package expected to grow after they're buried?
3. Is the package a time capsule?


1. Not really, no.
2. No.
3. No.



Now some yes/no questions:

1. Are A,B,C and D all human?
2. Was D alive when this whole process began?
3. Was there something dead in the package when B received it?
4. Was there something dead in the package when C received it?
5. Was D in the package?

1. Yes.
2. If you take the sending of the package from A to B to be the start of the process, then no, D was not alive when the process began.
3. I would have to say no.
4. I would have to say no.
5. No.

[Zeb The Troll]

If D has died, and the package was buried, does that mean D is in the package?I already asked if the package contained D's remains. The answer was no. Also, it was determined that the package went through the mail. Mail carriers I think would disapprove of carrying corpses on their regular routes. I'm interested in hearing the answers to your other questions though.

[unstattedCommoner]

In summary:

A, a stranger to D, takes some of D's property after his death and sends it to B, knowing that it would be forwarded to C, who then buries whatever it is in his backyard.

1. Were the contents of the package taken from D (either before or after his death) by A?
2. Were the contents taken before D's death?
3. If C knew D had died, would he expect to receive this package?
4. If B knew D had died, would he expect to receive this package in order to forward it to C?
5. Was there a reason why A did not address the package to C directly?
6. If so, is that reason relevant to the solution?

[Ink]

1. Were the contents of the package taken from D (either before or after his death) by A?
2. Were the contents taken before D's death?
3. If C knew D had died, would he expect to receive this package?
4. If B knew D had died, would he expect to receive this package in order to forward it to C?
5. Was there a reason why A did not address the package to C directly?
6. If so, is that reason relevant to the solution?

1. Yes.
2. No.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.
6. Yes.

[Ink]

Hmm.. this one may be a little too difficult. Here's a couple of hints:

1. The reason the package was sent from A to B to C is that A wants both B and C to see what's inside the package.

2. B and C do not know of D.

It's quite a convoluted one, folks.

[Zeb The Troll]

1. Does A know that C will bury the package once he sees the contents?
2. We'd established that D did not know A, but did A know D before he died?

Ooo, another strange idea just occurred to me.

3. Were A, B, and C involved in a crime?
4. If so, did D have evidence linking them to the crime?
5. If so, did A find out about the evidence, kill D, and take it from him?

[Ink]

1. Does A know that C will bury the package once he sees the contents?
2. We'd established that D did not know A, but did A know D before he died?

Ooo, another strange idea just occurred to me.

3. Were A, B, and C involved in a crime?
4. If so, did D have evidence linking them to the crime?
5. If so, did A find out about the evidence, kill D, and take it from him?

I'll give slightly more than yes or no answers here, just to speed things up a little. I've also altered the second hint slightly, just to make it clearer. It now reads "B and C do not know of D".

1. Yes, probably.
2. No.
3. B and C were not involved in a crime. Some of A's actions might probably constitute a crime.
4. No.
5. No.

Good guesses though.

[Zeb The Troll]

Okay, let me be a little more general then.

1. Did A kill D?
2. Did A steal the package from D (as opposed to just taking it for some less criminal purpose)?
3. Are the contents of the package something that someone else might be looking for?

Also, I'm a little confused about something. Earlier you said that if B or C knew D had died, they would expect this package, but then you state that B and C don't know of D. I'm not sure how it can be that someone would expect a package if they knew that someone they didn't know existed died.

Since I understand that reasoning this out may be part of the solution, let me just ask that you clarify that I'm actually understanding the statements correctly, not that you explain what I'm missing if both statements are true as I understand them.

I hope that made sense.

[Vonriel]

1) Was something incredibly valuable inside the box?
2) Was A doing a job for B and C?

[Akaziel]

I'll try...

1. Did the package contain illegal drugs of some sort?
2. If so, is A a drug dealer?
3. If so, did B and C buy drugs from him?
4. If so, was D investigating A's drug trafficking?
5. Was D killed?
6. Did D commit suicide?
7. Did D die of natural causes?

[Ink]

Also, I'm a little confused about something. Earlier you said that if B or C knew D had died, they would expect this package, but then you state that B and C don't know of D. I'm not sure how it can be that someone would expect a package if they knew that someone they didn't know existed died.


Ah, I'll try to explain things a bit clearer then. B and C do not know of D, but if someone had told them "Hey, this person D died last week", they would expect the package regardless. Basically D's vital status makes no difference to B and C. So even if they knew D had died, they would still be expecting this package from A.



1. Did A kill D?
2. Did A steal the package from D (as opposed to just taking it for some less criminal purpose)?
3. Are the contents of the package something that someone else might be looking for?


1. No.
2. Well it was taken without permission and after D's death, so yes, you can call it stealing I suppose.
3. No.


1) Was something incredibly valuable inside the box?
2) Was A doing a job for B and C?

1. No.
2. No. (But that is a very good question.)

[Ink]

I'll try...

1. Did the package contain illegal drugs of some sort?
2. If so, is A a drug dealer?
3. If so, did B and C buy drugs from him?
4. If so, was D investigating A's drug trafficking?
5. Was D killed?
6. Did D commit suicide?
7. Did D die of natural causes?

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. No.
5. No.
6. No.
7. Yes.

[Zeb The Troll]

1. Was D old when he died?
2. Are the contents of the package something that a reasonable person would expect to be buried?
3. Are the contents of the package something D would have normally carried with him?
4. Do A, B, and C regularly conduct this sort of transaction?
5. If C had been the one who acquired the package from D, would he have sent it to B to be passed on to A?

[Ink]

1. Was D old when he died?
2. Are the contents of the package something that a reasonable person would expect to be buried?
3. Are the contents of the package something D would have normally carried with him?
4. Do A, B, and C regularly conduct this sort of transaction?
5. If C had been the one who acquired the package from D, would he have sent it to B to be passed on to A?

1. Let's say in his 40's.
2. Yes I suppose so.
3. I'd have to say yes.
4. No.
5. No.

Boy, some of your questions are really tough to answer.

[Zeb The Troll]

*searches his home frantically for something he owns that he would expect someone he didn't know to steal and bury* :smallsmile:

1. Was D wealthy?
2. Did the package contain more than one item?
3. Was the item something an average citizen might own?
4. Was it something only a man or only a woman might carry?

[Ink]

*searches his home frantically for something he owns that he would expect someone he didn't know to steal and bury* :smallsmile:

1. Was D wealthy?
2. Did the package contain more than one item?
3. Was the item something an average citizen might own?
4. Was it something only a man or only a woman might carry?

1. No.
2. No.
3. Yes.
4. Both a man and a woman would have it.

Haha, keep it up. You'll get there. Try thinking out of the ordinary a little, this really is quite a bizarre scenario. These questions are really entertaining :smallsmile:. I'll provide another hint, if needed.

[Zeb The Troll]

Okay, let me go with something from the last scenario then.

Is the setting present day/real world?

[Ink]

Okay, let me go with something from the last scenario then.

Is the setting present day/real world?

Yes it's in the real world. If I recall correctly the time frame was around the early 20th century, but present day would work as well.

[Zeb The Troll]

1. Did D die suddenly, like a heart attack or something?
2. Is there something significant about C's back yard?

((Okay, I'm starting to suffer from sleep deprivation.))

[Ink]

1. Did D die suddenly, like a heart attack or something?
2. Is there something significant about C's back yard?

((Okay, I'm starting to suffer from sleep deprivation.))

1. Yeah ok, let's say he did.
2. No.