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Jimp
2007-05-25, 09:23 AM
Today I was hoping to make a gish (warrior/magic). I read a very comprehensive thread on the wizards forums about it which answered most questions. However, I noitced that it did not include any ToB classes or some newer prestige classes. So, my questions:
1.Has anyone ever tried to make a gish using the ToB classes? (Crusader, Warblade, Swordsage)
2.Any thoughts on making a gish using any of these classes?
3. How does a Warblade/Wizard/Abjurant Champion sound? Maybe adding some Spellsword levels later on. Initiator level doesn't matter too much to me, it's really just icing on the cake.

Pauwel
2007-05-25, 09:31 AM
Even if Initiator Level doesn't matter to you, I'd take a look at Jade Phoenix Mage.

Jimp
2007-05-25, 09:33 AM
Even if Initiator Level doesn't matter to you, I'd take a look at Jade Phoenix Mage.

Will their Arcane Wratch ability stack with Arcane Strike from CW?

Fax Celestis
2007-05-25, 09:50 AM
It does. Wizard 5/Warblade 3/Jade Phoenix Mage 10/Master of Nine 2 is a good choice, though those last two can be replaced with just about anything.

Wiz 5/Wbl 3/JPM 7/AbCh 5 is also pretty solid.

Were-Sandwich
2007-05-25, 10:29 AM
Nothing is awesomer than Emeral Immolation. So many inventive uses.

Darrin
2007-05-25, 10:51 AM
It does. Wizard 5/Warblade 3/Jade Phoenix Mage 10/Master of Nine 2 is a good choice, though those last two can be replaced with just about anything.


Gah, stay away from Master of Nine! It's a trap! (It requires too many useless feats.)

You also never get 9th level spells or 9th level maneuvers.

There are over a dozen excellent Gish builds on the Tome of Battle Build Compendium, compiled by Tleilaxu_Ghola:

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=683941

Yuki Akuma
2007-05-25, 11:01 AM
Gah, stay away from Master of Nine! It's a trap! (It requires too many useless feats.)

It's worth the 'useless' feats. And some of those feats are good anyway.

Fax Celestis
2007-05-25, 11:05 AM
Gah, stay away from Master of Nine! It's a trap! (It requires too many useless feats.)

You also never get 9th level spells or 9th level maneuvers.

There are over a dozen excellent Gish builds on the Tome of Battle Build Compendium, compiled by Tleilaxu_Ghola:

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=683941

Uh, how do you not get 9th maneuvers?

2.5 (Wizard 5) + 3 (Warblade 3) + 10 (JPM 10) + 2 (Mo9 2) = 17.5. Your last level of Mo9 lets you take 9ths.

Ramza00
2007-05-25, 12:29 PM
Stay away from Warblade JPM, they are good.

Crusader JPM are far better.