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Feuerphoenix
2016-08-03, 04:28 PM
Hey guys,

So recently an idea of combining the two most opposing forces within one race went into my head and stuck there. So here you have it. Please give me feedback what you think about it. :)

http://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/HJI9NAJt

Final Hyena
2016-08-04, 06:04 AM
Could use a bit more juice, especially as charisma doesn't mesh too well with intelligence or wisdom.

TundraBuccaneer
2016-08-05, 02:29 AM
Someone had already a similar idea. Maybe this can help you get inspired for your own.
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?430062-The-Libran

Feuerphoenix
2016-08-05, 03:20 AM
Could use a bit more juice, especially as charisma doesn't mesh too well with intelligence or wisdom.

Mmh what so you mean with more juice? Charisma is what Aasimar and Tieflings Both get. So for me, zu was pretty obvious whixh stats gets +2

Feuerphoenix
2016-08-05, 03:25 AM
Someone had already a similar idea. Maybe this can help you get inspired for your own.
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?430062-The-Libran

Mmh for me, this race does Not really stress beeing a hybrid of two species But rather something completly new. None of their abilities gives a hint to their demonic and/or celestial origin. You could change the story of the Race And let it become it's own Race without a problem. And this is what I do Not like that much.

Final Hyena
2016-08-05, 06:07 AM
Mmh what so you mean with more juice? Charisma is what Aasimar and Tieflings Both get. So for me, zu was pretty obvious whixh stats gets +2

It needs more stuff.
I never said remove the charisma bonus, I said that the stats it does have don't mesh together well - no class overly wants charisma and wisdom/intelligence. As such you should take that into consideration for the value of the racial bonuses.

Feuerphoenix
2016-08-05, 07:46 AM
You get two resistances, a very good spell, and you get darkvision. What Else would you include?

My Problem is, that I am always looking at tiefling an Aasimar on their own, and I have to make sure, what chooseing these Races is still viable...

Final Hyena
2016-08-05, 09:08 AM
You get two resistances, a very good spell, and you get darkvision.

Half Elves get;
two +1s in stats of your choice.
Darkvision
Fey ancestry
Two skills

I know which I would rather pick.

Feuerphoenix
2016-08-05, 10:04 AM
Half Elves get;
two +1s in stats of your choice.
Darkvision
Fey ancestry
Two skills

I know which I would rather pick.

personally, I think Half Elves are way too strong. Comparing any race with half elves implies to buff all races but mountain dwarfs and maybe Aarakocra. But this is not my point. I want a race, that feels hormonal in DnD. The problem is, that if I improve any ability or add a new one, it becomes better than a Tiefling race, by its own. And that is something I want to avoid. Same goes for Aasimar, as they suffer from the same problem. Both are usually no top tier race (although they may become one, depending on the scenario). One ability I was thinking about is, that their Hitpointmaximum can not be reduced, but this may be too strong.

Final Hyena
2016-08-05, 10:19 AM
Tieflings aren't that great, which is likely why I've never seen a PC pick one. Unfortunately the races are not perfectly balanced, which is the game we play with.

One half baked idea I had was a sort of angelic passive buff that could be sacrificed (for a time) to do something a bit more powerful but kinda "evil."

Feuerphoenix
2016-08-05, 10:24 AM
mmh can you give me a more concrete example?