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The Giant
2006-06-16, 04:36 PM
New comic is up.

Forecast calls for 50% chance of more than 2 comics this upcoming week, based on my workload. Most of the big deadlines are past until Origins.

Saithis Bladewing
2006-06-16, 04:38 PM
ROFLMAO! ;D

Two HUGE thumbs up! The last part literally made me laugh out loud! Great to have some emotion come out in a tough day!

EDIT: Oh, and in the words of the infamous Sneak:


And for the sheer novelty, I'm going to have to go with "Woot! First post!"

DEMONhunter
2006-06-16, 04:38 PM
Ooh, a magic mouth!
I was smiling from the first panel. Good stuff as always.

Edit: Wow, second post... I've never even been on the first page before.

Voshkod
2006-06-16, 04:39 PM
Heh. Legalistic Spam.

Very nice.

wolf_mage
2006-06-16, 04:40 PM
Interesting...

Tryranus_Magus
2006-06-16, 04:40 PM
OH MY GOD... That was freakin' hilarious!

stickygoo
2006-06-16, 04:40 PM
he said "erection"

seriously I've always loved those drug comericals where the side effects are worse than the reason your taking the drug.

okpokalypse
2006-06-16, 04:41 PM
Awesome!

Not only is the magic mouth incredibly nostalgic, but the multiple disclaimers are a great touch!

P1!

Felinoid
2006-06-16, 04:41 PM
Serendipity smiles upon me, as does a Magic Mouth. *does a happy dance*

Just one question: How telling is it that it talks about erections? (Not surprised Roy quit the field after that line.) Methinks the Oracle will be female. ;)

Elkarbay
2006-06-16, 04:41 PM
Ahahahahaha.

Oh man. The sad part is most of those aren't made up.

Edit: WHOA, what!? First page.

KewlKat
2006-06-16, 04:44 PM
Hehe, I want QuestGuard.

indianajoe
2006-06-16, 04:44 PM
Whee!!! Man....definitely gotta love the warnings.

jogom
2006-06-16, 04:44 PM
Great
Now looks like any American product
Edit: 1st page

SigilSigul
2006-06-16, 04:45 PM
*chokes* 'Erections may--' 'We're done here'. Okay, this is one of the funnier ones in a while. Oh my.

I now have to put QuestGuard into my campaign.

Ted_Stryker
2006-06-16, 04:45 PM
OK, that was amusing.

n11
2006-06-16, 04:46 PM
You missed: "past performance is not a guarantee of future success." ;D

Great use for Magic Mouth.

Winged One
2006-06-16, 04:46 PM
;D I love anything that makes fun of those comercials...

DaveMage
2006-06-16, 04:46 PM
LOL funny!

Great one.

kristineadam
2006-06-16, 04:47 PM
Living in the US, that is waaaay too close to reality. ;D And hilarous.

What I don't understand is why Haley looks so worried... Everyone else just looks annoyed and confused.

Bookman
2006-06-16, 04:47 PM
New comic is up.

Forecast calls for 50% chance of more than 2 comics this upcoming week, based on my workload. Most of the big deadlines are past until Origins.

haha SWEET!!!!!!!!
haha comic ROCKED! I like talking mouths..........

ref
2006-06-16, 04:49 PM
Aha, mile-long disclaimers are in the OotS-verse too! ;D hehe

Don't quaff any potion or ride a horse or operate heavy machinery or do other dangerous things while visiting the oracle. May induce sleep. (But I DIDN'T cast any spell!)

Also, Second page, not-bad! :)

And last, but definitely not least, Let's hope forecast is right and we get 3+ strips! :D :D

EDIT: Little Blueberry: Haley looks so worried because she's the only one (at least of those depicted in that frame) that is "nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant"

Otterella
2006-06-16, 04:50 PM
Perfect blend of modern day pop culture with a fantasy setting. This is what I love about OotS.

Durin
2006-06-16, 04:52 PM
Roy will make them pass the test of the body V.'s getting the mind and Elan is getting the heart

KayJay
2006-06-16, 04:54 PM
Ooh a comic... nice surprise wasn't expecting one today :)

TheJet31619
2006-06-16, 04:54 PM
"Erections lasting longer than four hours-"
"Okay, we're done here."

Hilarious, I laughed out loud as I usually do. A lot more this time though

Krytha
2006-06-16, 04:56 PM
hooray for new comics! So that's what a magic mouth looks like...

SpoonlessJedi
2006-06-16, 04:58 PM
"Erections lasting more than four hours..."

Talk about a Test of the Body.

Doompuppy
2006-06-16, 05:01 PM
Great stuff... those darn disclaimers and ads get everywhere, it seems =)

HHLoneWolf
2006-06-16, 05:03 PM
second page!


great comic!



(now I'll go read it.. :P )

someday when I'm all grown up, I'll be a first page poster

Panzar_NSidious
2006-06-16, 05:05 PM
Great dialog :D but the green remined me of Mr. Yuck! :-X

humanpylon
2006-06-16, 05:06 PM
I think the worst disclaimer I ever saw in a product was "may cause anal leakage." :o

Melnor
2006-06-16, 05:09 PM
Wow! Great comic, GIant!
And it was...dirty!
I didn't think you had it in you!
I'm impressed!

mdsoze
2006-06-16, 05:11 PM
Warning: This comic may contain material that will cause your sides to split. Other side effects include mild to severe laughter, a loss of productivity at work, getting stared at by your co-workers, and loss of bladder control.

Please talk to your doctor about OotS.

Elephant
2006-06-16, 05:19 PM
Wow! Great comic, GIant!
And it was...dirty!
I didn't think you had it in you!
I'm impressed!

Dirty? How? I saw no dirtiness.

I was mildly amused by the comic, though.

AzSteven
2006-06-16, 05:26 PM
Elan looked a little nervous about the Erections warning...

GeekDaddy
2006-06-16, 05:27 PM
You gotta hate those pop-up ads.

CatBoris
2006-06-16, 05:28 PM
Har har har! "Sneaky" marketers! ;D

Nekkira
2006-06-16, 05:28 PM
Cute!

Hoseki
2006-06-16, 05:29 PM
Dirty? How? I saw no dirtiness.

I was mildly amused by the comic, though.

'Dirty' meaning 'had the word 'erection' in it'

'The Oracle of the Sunken Valley is for entertainment purposes', heh heh.

Loved it!

Flabbicus
2006-06-16, 05:29 PM
I was half expecting that floating mouth to start spouting out lines from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

GypsyThorn
2006-06-16, 05:30 PM
Reminds me of a statue I saw in Lawrence, Kansas. Don't remember of whom, don't remember anything else except for the last line in the inscription on the base of the statue:

"Erected by those who loved him."

Arkadian
2006-06-16, 05:33 PM
ROFLMAO...someone's been watching one too many drug commercials lately... LOL!!! ;D My gawd that was funny.

Brett Wong
2006-06-16, 05:33 PM
yooo awsome comiuc giant

Holy_Knight
2006-06-16, 05:35 PM
That made me smile. Liked the warnings. :)

Dawnstrider_Moogle
2006-06-16, 05:37 PM
Hahaha. I think every oracle should have at least the "not liable for any losses or injuries" line, really.

_JM_
2006-06-16, 05:41 PM
If Roy had an erection lasting more than four hours would that count as enough of an emergency for him to be justified in summoning Celia? ;D

stjohn70
2006-06-16, 05:43 PM
Priapism, FTL

Gez
2006-06-16, 05:45 PM
The funniest in a long time! Congratulations! :D

Matuse
2006-06-16, 05:52 PM
A 4 hour erection...the Oracle must be a major-league hottie.


I also noticed that Haley suddenly looked worried. Maybe she is pregnant or may become pregnant? What exactly happened after she walked out on Elan getting kissed? A little self-pity sex?

TinSoldier
2006-06-16, 05:58 PM
They all look unhappy as they listen to the Magic Mouth drone on and on with its disclaimers.

Neopolis
2006-06-16, 06:01 PM
I love how the magic mouth looks. Pretty funny joke, too. Reminds of the quote of those Warcraft 3 priests.

Morrandir
2006-06-16, 06:05 PM
ZOMG FURST PAEGZOR :P

Seriously, I do like the cover-your-behind statement. Oracle must get sued a lot.

brionl
2006-06-16, 06:08 PM
One of my characters in City of Heros is Mr. Powersuit Guy (tm). His battlecry is "Mr Powersuit Guy is a Registered Trademark!" Here's my .sig from the CoH boards:

Mr. Powersuit Guy is a registered trademark of TransGlobalMegaConglomoCorp Gmbh. His likeness may not be used without express written consent from TGMCC.

Gerrtt
2006-06-16, 06:12 PM
That was awesome Giant.

Eladrinstar
2006-06-16, 06:24 PM
I doubt Haley's pregnant. She is just over reacting at everything because thats the only way she can communicate.

That or she is taking potions of Remove Disease monthly.

Aereshaa_the_2nd
2006-06-16, 06:25 PM
Here in canada we have no drug ads... or cigarette ads... or wine ads.

Jack Mann
2006-06-16, 06:27 PM
Just one question: How telling is it that it talks about erections? (Not surprised Roy quit the field after that line.) Methinks the Oracle will be female. ;)

Roy already said the oracle is a he here (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=318).

BelkarsDagger
2006-06-16, 06:28 PM
D'oh! It's a knock off of those Viagra commercials :P

GeekLordAragorn12
2006-06-16, 06:30 PM
The funniest comic in a while...great one, Rich! :D

Kresalak
2006-06-16, 06:36 PM
Funny. In panel 5 it looks like the mouth is smiling.

Tobimaro
2006-06-16, 06:40 PM
;D

Great comic, Rich. I really liked the fact that the Magic Mouth turned into advertisements.

Reminds me of a home campaign that I participated in not too long ago. Our group played as evil PCs fighting good-aligned people, not to dominate the world, but a small portion of a land (mostly a city). One of our players, a priest of a unaligned community deity, started a brothel, and created billboards (with neon lights) to advertise their services. ;D

So this story, besides making me laugh, gave me a chance to remember a funny campaign from my past. ;D

Grovar

Nightfall
2006-06-16, 06:55 PM
Laughing out loud here! A Magic Mouth with TMI! ROFL! ;D

Neo-Sapian
2006-06-16, 06:56 PM
I love it. It's hilarious. The self advertisement for QuestGuard was great. Anachronisms in D&D are great.

Zaruthustran
2006-06-16, 07:03 PM
Questguard and the final bit actually caused me to laugh out loud. Totally funny, The Giant.

gallow
2006-06-16, 07:06 PM
I love random updates, it's fun to find a new comic when you weren't expecting one.

(No, wait... is this a random update? What day is it? :D Summer holidays have completely messed up any sense of time I have ever had.)

Anyhow, loved it. Like someone said, anachronisms rule.

Adeptus
2006-06-16, 07:10 PM
This actually reminds me of the oracle in our Shadow World game. I guess my GM agrees with the Giant in that oracles are never quite as straightforward (or useful) as the characters would like.

The oracle on Shadow World is located in a hard to reach place (naturally) and physically is a seemingly bottomless crack at the floor of a cave. You throw something down the crack and ask a question. You usually hear an ansver, which may be perfectly straighforward, terribly cryptic or obviously useless. Sometimes you get nothing at all.

What do you throw down? Nobody seems to know the rules. Most people think the thing must be a) personally important to you b) very valuable c) magic

And since nobody is sure, and the reliability is unknown it doesn't exactly encourage one to be a regular customer :D

Personally I've always thrown down something both personal and very valuable, and it has worked every time (3 out of 3, but the price is very steep).

Serina_Spellbinder
2006-06-16, 07:24 PM
LOL, a disclaimer-spouting Magic Mouth!!

Rich, you've managed to outdo yourself again. Good job! :)

Kahlan
2006-06-16, 07:36 PM
Parodies of drug commercials + DnD References + Order of the Stick = Supreme Godlike Awesomeness.

;D

Lightman
2006-06-16, 07:41 PM
New comic is up.

Forecast calls for 50% chance of more than 2 comics this upcoming week, based on my workload. Most of the big deadlines are past until Origins.
ROFLMAO! That was hilarious!

Aerysil1
2006-06-16, 07:57 PM
I'm still waiting for side effects of a drug to include total and sudden epidermal inversion.

And have you noticed the side effects for social anxiety drugs would turn you into a person noone would want to be around, anyway?

Kontonshin
2006-06-16, 08:04 PM
This raises the question of whether, in the OOTS universe, oracles have been successfully sued in the past for malpractice. Or malediction, whichever.

Solstice
2006-06-16, 08:17 PM
Roy already said the oracle is a he here (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantITP/ootscript?SK=318).

Well, yeah, but... maybe the Oracle is like Number Two in "The Prisoner." Maybe it'll be a girl this time around. :D

Personally I've always been of the "Oracles are or should be female" school.

maputo
2006-06-16, 08:18 PM
But are they safe from spontaneous bleeding from thier eyes and/or anus?

blackfox
2006-06-16, 08:32 PM
Hehe. It reminds me of crappy commercials for medication. :)

kasib
2006-06-16, 08:33 PM
One of the funnier strips from recent times. Especially Elan's "Oooh"-face is good stuff. Every campaign could use more Magic Mouth disclaimers. :)

Hotspur
2006-06-16, 08:54 PM
"These encounters may be recorded for training purposes.."

Flak_Razorwill
2006-06-16, 08:59 PM
I immediately thought of Happy Fun Ball...

walkeronthehorizon
2006-06-16, 09:12 PM
So funny "erection lasting longer then 4 hours." Just so funny.

charik
2006-06-16, 09:17 PM
My reaction to this one started as a smile, became a grin, grew into a snicker, and finally a laugh. By the end I wasn't sure which was funnier, them standing around through all of this, or us reading all the way through. ::)

Ah, the memories it brings back. I remember doing a doubletake the first time I heard a disclosure of side effects in a drug ad. Of course, time was when ads wouldn't even mention competitors by name.

And the part about "for entertainment only" derives from things like the Psychic Friends Network or astrologers.

Patiently druming my fingers for the Five (three sir!) Three Tests. :D

Dudukain
2006-06-16, 09:46 PM
I love how in the fifth panel the mouth looks almost sarcastic.

CelestialStick
2006-06-16, 09:55 PM
New comic is up.

Forecast calls for 50% chance of more than 2 comics this upcoming week, based on my workload. Most of the big deadlines are past until Origins.

Oh no, Rich, you didn't! Now we will keep hearing "are we there yet? Are we there yet?" incessantly from the kiddies.

You've got this all backwards. You need to say that if the readers are lucky you'll do one new comic per week, and then the readers will be joyous when you deliver two and ecstatic if you deliver three! :D

By the way, excellent satire of the current spate of prescription medication commercials. "If stupidity persists for more than four hours..." ;)

Mal_the_Mad
2006-06-16, 10:05 PM
Ah I heard the mouth in three distinct voices..
one big booming questy type danger will robinson voice. then when it smiles the Commercial guy that sells you everything. buy it now. and the diclaimers as legalese guy who rambles forever and ever and gives you every side effect in the world.

Solstice
2006-06-16, 10:10 PM
Actually, I kinda liked the old auctioneer-rate disclaimer listings. Better, anyway. Now it seems whatever actor who's telling you all about their experience with the medication just tells you the side effects in the same conversational voice, which sorta freaks me out. The more serious the effects, the more freakage.

hyikim
2006-06-16, 10:18 PM
Bravo Giant! Great comic, like always!

Varian7
2006-06-16, 10:25 PM
LOL for all the disclaimers. Looks like the two lawyers have been here recently!

Blaznak
2006-06-16, 10:54 PM
Ok. This one made me smile....

CelestialStick
2006-06-16, 10:56 PM
LOL for all the disclaimers. Looks like the two lawyers have been here recently!

Did you know that Varian is the name of a company that makes cancer drugs? :D

Theodoxus
2006-06-16, 11:01 PM
You missed the Nasinex bee, where after the off camera legal dude rambles off his list of side effects, the bee says 'A wise choice'.

Freaking priceless.

Ah well.

Theo

PS: great comic as always.

PPS: I think the 'first page' idiots deserve a one day ban. Get rid of the retarded crap already. No body cares (except me who's ranting about it.)

Faticus
2006-06-16, 11:09 PM
Did eanybody see Haly's face when it sead "pregnant"

Maybe that is whut she is hideing.

Capitan Voronin
2006-06-16, 11:46 PM
I doubt she's pregnant, but I'm she's worried about getting pregnant in the near future... Her self-pity did recommend "more physical ways" to show her love for Elan

Kanashimi
2006-06-17, 12:05 AM
awesome. Totally worth the wait. Love the Medicine ad parody!

Great job!

thehothead
2006-06-17, 12:23 AM
LOLLOLLOL THAT WAS A HELLA FUNNY COMIC!!!!

Edit: On a completly nrelated note i just realized I made it to barbarion!!!

Solmage
2006-06-17, 12:35 AM
Test installed and mantained by Questguard! Heh!

And comic on my birthday too, wohoo! :D

Kinneus
2006-06-17, 01:03 AM
Just wanted to say... this one was particularly funny. Well done.

cloudncali
2006-06-17, 01:16 AM
lol that was funny

that reminds me of something a comedian said i think it was dave chepel(i think thats how you spell his name):
"if i have an erection for more the four hours im calling a hooker not a docter"

baltor85
2006-06-17, 02:07 AM
LMAO. One of my personal favorites, top 10 atleast. If the Oxy-Clean dude started saying"If you experience erections lasting longer than 4 hours-"I would scream! Lol. Ya, I betcha the Oracle's a girl, that's why the mouth said that.

Lauren
2006-06-17, 02:11 AM
"These encounters may be recorded for training purposes.."

*dies laughing*

Evik
2006-06-17, 02:19 AM
hahaha!!! gawd i feel like the oracle got sued or something :D maybe the oracle is being accosted by lawyers lol
PLUS
awesome last panel!!!
hehehe

The Glitter Ninja
2006-06-17, 02:20 AM
OK that's freakin' hysterical.

I'll sit back and wait for someone to get offended at the word "erection".

Devils_Advocate
2006-06-17, 02:26 AM
"OK, we're done here." Woah, Roy, are you sure? That part sounds like it could be important... :o

Solara
2006-06-17, 03:38 AM
That last line made me snort Pepsi up my nose. (Had to be the only warning the Mouth didn't cover...:D)

And I'm wondering if Haley seems a little worried because of that 'Test of the Heart'. She might be thinking that she just recently failed something similar, in not being strong enough to express her feelings to Elan or get her speech back some other way. Even though I think she passed the test by telling off her negative goth side, we know how obsessed she seems to be with the thought of not being 'good' enough.

(And, uh, resisting the urge to post spoilery speculation about the results of the Tests here, but it's probably pretty obvious what I'm thinking about...)

Aiani
2006-06-17, 03:59 AM
That was awesome. I thought it was pretty funny the whole way through but when I got to the last panel I actually laughed out loud. Great stuff.

bexie
2006-06-17, 04:39 AM
"Erections lasting longer than four hours-"
"Okay, we're done here."

HA!! ;D Oh, those stupid adverts rock. Fantasy, mixed with real life. Go OOTS!!

orcmonk89
2006-06-17, 04:45 AM
LOL.... That was very funny!

Gnorosch
2006-06-17, 04:50 AM
Patiently druming my fingers for the Five (three sir!) Three Tests. :D
No, I think it now are four tests - the first being the "Test of Faith" where everyone not believing in the oracle is send away. This test was disguised as legal disclaimer. ;)

Dawnstrider_Moogle
2006-06-17, 05:57 AM
That last line made me snort Pepsi up my nose. (Had to be the only warning the Mouth didn't cover...:D)

And I'm wondering if Haley seems a little worried because of that 'Test of the Heart'. She might be thinking that she just recently failed something similar, in not being strong enough to express her feelings to Elan or get her speech back some other way. Even though I think she passed the test by telling off her negative goth side, we know how obsessed she seems to be with the thought of not being 'good' enough.

(And, uh, resisting the urge to post spoilery speculation about the results of the Tests here, but it's probably pretty obvious what I'm thinking about...)

Interesting. That would be a nice way to resolve the whole aphasia subplot.

Beleriphon
2006-06-17, 07:14 AM
I think my favourite bit of this comic is the expression on Elan's face. Sort of confused, yet also curious. It sums him up so well.

soozenw
2006-06-17, 08:03 AM
i love it! "erections lasting longer than four hours-" oh god, that's awesome.

great job yet again! ;D

geez3r
2006-06-17, 09:11 AM
You know its bad when ancient truths being reveal have ads in them. Great comic Giant.

Otterella
2006-06-17, 10:34 AM
You know it's gotta be the lawyers. And the disclaimers are getting dumber and dumber. "Professional stunt driver on closed course. Do not attempt." and so forth. It's the little printed ones at the bottom of the screen that I always look out for. And every time my husband groans in pain at reading one of those, I tell him "You know it's YOUR KIND that makes those possible." (He's a lawyer- but the academic kind, not the practicing kind, so that makes it okay.)

On another note, I'm curious how many other countries are subject to such disclaimers. We get them on practically every commercial in America, but someone said you don't get them in Canada. Anyone from anywere else that you do get them or don't get them?

Rutigris
2006-06-17, 11:09 AM
On another note, I'm curious how many other countries are subject to such disclaimers. We get them on practically every commercial in America, but someone said you don't get them in Canada. Anyone from anywere else that you do get them or don't get them?

We don't in Sweden, unless it's in some TV-show imported from the States. But I've always loved the way law works on your side of the puddle. The "do not eat"-thingys they put in with all electronics.. WHO would eat them?! Really?! ;D If someone does they pretty much deserve to die.. :P

I'm kinda curious as to how long the mouth would've continued reciting disclaimers! Forever? And what was it going to say about erections?!

baltor85
2006-06-17, 11:34 AM
We don't in Sweden, unless it's in some TV-show imported from the States. But I've always loved the way law works on your side of the puddle. The "do not eat"-thingys they put in with all electronics.. WHO would eat them?! Really?! ;D If someone does they pretty much deserve to die..

*Snip*
Seriously. I bought this joystick for my computer, so I could play those flying games, and there was a big piece of paper included, saying"Do not stick in mouth with intention to swallow"

Lmao. One of my fave comics, like I said before.

Tauntaun13
2006-06-17, 11:34 AM
And what was it going to say about erections?!

It's about Viagra (I googled it ;D )

baltor85
2006-06-17, 11:56 AM
You....Googled...what a talking, floating, glowing green mouth said about Erections? Oh well, I woulda done the same thing, except for the fact that you beat me to it.

DASLAYARGH
2006-06-17, 12:30 PM
lol awesome comic man ;D! I almost thought i was reading one of those commercials on TV!

Zann
2006-06-17, 12:58 PM
>DDDDDD That is BRILLIANT!

Seffbasilisk
2006-06-17, 01:45 PM
I thought magic mouth was limited to 25 words or less? ???

...unless one going off triggered another... :-X

That would get expensive making them all permanent, but the problem remains. If you set the trigger to be the last word from the mouth before in the sequence, and the party's talking when they trigger it...

Chaos! ;D

Tanikova
2006-06-17, 05:12 PM
My 15 year old son was reading the comic over my shoulder... you should have seen his face when he got to the last panel especially when he realized that mom was right in front of him.... poor boy... reading about erections around a female parental unit.... as if I wasn't intimately familiar with them already.... how in the heck does he think he got here....

Eldred
2006-06-17, 05:38 PM
Very good comic Giant. ;D

Ronald_saveloy
2006-06-17, 05:44 PM
In german medication commercials, there's a disclaimer too, but a real short one:

"Zu Risiken und Nebenwirkungen fragen Sie ihren Arzt oder Apotheker."

Translation: Ask your M.D. or your pharmacist for risks and adverse effects.


I'm curious what happened to the Oracle. Roy says, the magic mouth wasn't there earlier
May there was a hostile takeover of the oracle!

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 06:24 PM
It's about Viagra (I googled it ;D )


Actually now there are several products out there for treating ED, including not only Viagra but Cealus and Levitra. When you get old like me, you learn these things. ;)


i love it! "erections lasting longer than four hours-" oh god, that's awesome.

great job yet again! ;D
A woman who loves an erection that lasts for more than four hours. Well, I can't argue with that. ;)


You know it's gotta be the lawyers. And the disclaimers are getting dumber and dumber. "Professional stunt driver on closed course. Do not attempt." and so forth. It's the little printed ones at the bottom of the screen that I always look out for. And every time my husband groans in pain at reading one of those, I tell him "You know it's YOUR KIND that makes those possible." (He's a lawyer- but the academic kind, not the practicing kind, so that makes it okay.)

On another note, I'm curious how many other countries are subject to such disclaimers. We get them on practically every commercial in America, but someone said you don't get them in Canada. Anyone from anywere else that you do get them or don't get them?
Yes, partly it's 40 years or so of liberal lawyers undermining personal responsibility as the basis of American tort law, but you've also got to place some of the blame on the people too stupid to get out of jury duty--or on the people smart enough to get out of jury duty who leave jurty decisions up to the people too stupid to get out of jury duty.



My 15 year old son was reading the comic over my shoulder... you should have seen his face when he got to the last panel especially when he realized that mom was right in front of him.... poor boy... reading about erections around a female parental unit.... as if I wasn't intimately familiar with them already.... how in the heck does he think he got here....

Heh. It's very inconvenient for 15-year-olds to have parents. You're such an embarassment. ;)

Alfryd
2006-06-17, 07:07 PM
New comic is up.
Very good. Hilarity 7.9... ah... 8.0.


A woman who loves an erection that lasts for more than four hours. Well, I can't argue with that.
Actually, that can cause permanent internal scarring. Fascinating subject.

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 07:21 PM
Actually, that can cause permanent internal scarring. Fascinating subject.
Well, now that's perfectly unpleasant. :(

LordVader
2006-06-17, 07:31 PM
ummm-is this really relevant? but anyways, there's nine pages already! Holy crap! gotta love the talking mouth. Sound like a car commercial.

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 07:38 PM
ummm-is this really relevant? but anyways, there's nine pages already! Holy crap! gotta love the talking mouth. Sound like a car commercial.
Not a car commerical--a drug commercial.

LordVader
2006-06-17, 07:39 PM
yep- Also, besides Haley being worried, where was V?
hmmm... btw, did you notice how many ppl got edited? the moderators have been busy!

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 07:43 PM
yep- Also, besides Haley being worried, where was V?
hmmm... btw, did you notice how many ppl got edited? the moderators have been busy!

I've been wondering about Haley's ability to talk, and about her secret that even V doesn't know. It's also been funny to see all the people who complained about the romantic storyline and the internal Haley storyline, claiming they wanted to "get back to the main story" getting all excited over a random encounter with a bugbear.

I hadn't noticed people getting edited. I've been busy lately so I haven't read through the whole thread, but if there's misery and pain, I'll have to go back and read it all now! There's an old aphorism that says that misery loves company. :D

Edit: I went back through all the pages of the thread and didn't see a single moderator edit. I did, however, see a debate about whether and erection is dirty or not. The answer clearly depends on the cleansing habits of the proprietor of said erection.:D

LordVader
2006-06-17, 07:58 PM
OMFG- A OWLBEAR!!!! THAT"S SO COOL! YAY! lol, that is what they were doing. But where is V

EATherrian
2006-06-17, 08:20 PM
Ok, that Magic Mouth thing is hilarious. That gag will make any wait worth while.

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 08:51 PM
OMFG- A OWLBEAR!!!! THAT"S SO COOL! YAY! lol, that is what they were doing. But where is V
Isn't it obvious? V is standing off behind Haley, and thus well behind Belkar. He's not going to make the same mistake twice. :D

Or maybe V is off looking for that missing arm from two strips earlier. ;)

charik
2006-06-17, 09:31 PM
Isn't it obvious? V is standing off behind Haley, and thus well behind Belkar. He's not going to make the same mistake twice. :D

Or maybe V is off looking for that missing arm from two strips earlier. ;)
Or casting spells upon various inanimate objects for later use. ::)

Back in grad school my first semester my dormmate was in law school. One of the examples in their torts text book was of a guy who bought one of those plastic kiddie pools, set it up on his driveway, climbed on top of his garage, and dove in. Then he sued the pool maker for failing to put a warning on their product saying not to do something like that.

Otterella
2006-06-17, 09:36 PM
Actually now there are several products out there for treating ED, including not only Viagra but Cealus and Levitra. When you get old like me, you learn these things. ;)

So shall we assume your stick isn't as celestial as it once was?

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 09:39 PM
Or casting spells upon various inanimate objects for later use. ::)


Back in grad school my first semester my dormmate was in law school. One of the examples in their torts text book was of a guy who bought one of those plastic kiddie pools, set it up on his driveway, climbed on top of his garage, and dove in. Then he sued the pool maker for failing to put a warning on their product saying not to do something like that.

Welcome to liberal jurisprudence, which rewards morons.




So shall we assume your stick isn't as celestial as it once was?
LOL! I was hoping that someone would pick up on that! Actually, it really depends on whether I take my meds or not. Off the meds, my stick is quite celestial. ;)

Edit: I just heard a Cialis ad on tv! "If an erection persists for four hours..." ;)

Edit 2: I was actually looking at the screen during a repeat of the ad and I see that I was spelling it wrong. I've corrected it in this post.

Bilbo27
2006-06-17, 10:48 PM
This was just lame filler content.

Giant, I was not impressed.

You can do way better than that one

I think this tops the worst ever list.

Desperately waiting for next update.

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 11:05 PM
This was just lame filler content.

Giant, I was not impressed.

You can do way better than that one

I think this tops the worst ever list.

Desperately waiting for next update.
(singing)
It's Bilbo!
Bilbo!
Bilbo Baggins!
Bravest little hobbit of them all!

skit
2006-06-17, 11:20 PM
Not a bad comic. The mouth-thing looks kind of neat with the transparency effects, but the joke is a little dull. Ah well, what do I know?

CelestialStick
2006-06-17, 11:33 PM
Not a bad comic. The mouth-thing looks kind of neat with the transparency effects, but the joke is a little dull. Ah well, what do I know?
It seems like this joke might amuse Americans more than others, as it satirizes our common drug commercials. Do you live outside the US by any chance?

Tarlonniel
2006-06-18, 12:26 AM
It's Bilbo!
Bilbo!
Bilbo Baggins!
Bravest little hobbit of them all!

Curse you! Just as that monstrosity was fading from my memory, you had to bring it back in all its horror! :o

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 12:33 AM
Curse you! Just as that monstrosity was fading from my memory, you had to bring it back in all its horror! :o
ROFLMAO!!!
Last week I showed it to one of the guys in D&D group and he was mouthing the lyrics all session long! ;D

Paladinone
2006-06-18, 12:53 AM
Doctor of Pharmacy, OOTS reader. Never thought the two would cross...but they did!!


Amused. Seriously amused.

Laman_Stahros
2006-06-18, 01:11 AM
Curse you! Just as that monstrosity was fading from my memory, you had to bring it back in all its horror! :o

And just to make it worse -

http://www.alteringtime.com/features/misc/?p=baggins

- Funny, isn't it? ;D

Tarlonniel
2006-06-18, 01:15 AM
Last week I showed it to one of the guys in D&D group and he was mouthing the lyrics all session long! ;D

An insidious little tune, ain't it? And eeeevil. I will never forgive Spo... er, Leonard Nimoy. Must remember that he is not Spock. Or no, wait, now he is Spock. :P No wonder I always liked Kirk better....

Edit: Arghhh! I clicked! Can't... stop... watching... NOOOOOO!

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 02:41 AM
And just to make it worse -

http://www.alteringtime.com/features/misc/?p=baggins

- Funny, isn't it? ;D

LOL. I found it again a couple of hours ago and keep watching it. I even made my cat dance to it. :D





An insidious little tune, ain't it? And eeeevil. I will never forgive Spo... er, Leonard Nemoy. Must remember that he is not Spock. Or no, wait, now he is Spock. :P No wonder I always liked Kirk better....

Edit: Arghhh! I clicked! Can't... stop... watching... NOOOOOO!
ROFLMAO! And if you were here I'd make you do the distinctive 1960s shoulder shrug dance too! ;D

Durin
2006-06-18, 02:43 AM
(singing)
It's Bilbo!
Bilbo!
Bilbo Baggins!
Bravest little hobbit of them all!

Are we singing now?

Suckas walk
Money talks
But it can't touch my
three lock box

One
two
three lock box
One
two
Three lock box

Treasures here
Somethin's there
Burried treasures
everywhere

One
two
three lock box
One
two
Three lock box

Now for an awsome quitar solo *air guitar*

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 02:50 AM
Are we singing now?

Well I am. But you can join me...
(singing)
In the middle of the earth in the land of the Shire
lives a brave little hobbit whom we all admire.
With his long wooden pipe,
fuzzy, woolly toes,
he lives in a hobbit-hole and everybody knows him

Bilbo (Bilbo)
Bilbo Baggins
He's only three feet tall
Bilbo (Bilbo)
Bilbo Baggins
The bravest little hobbit of them all

Now hobbits are peace-lovin' folks you know
They don't like to hurry and they take things slow
They don't like to travel away from home
They just want to eat and be left alone
But one day Bilbo was asked to go
on a big adventure to the caves below,
to help some dwarves get back their gold
that was stolen by a dragon in the days of old.

Bilbo (Bilbo)
Bilbo Baggins
He's only three feet tall
Bilbo (Bilbo)
Bilbo Baggins
The bravest little hobbit of them all

Well, he fought with the goblins
He battled a troll!!
He riddled with Gollum!!!
A magic ring he stole!!!
He was chased by wolves,
Lost in the forest,
Escaped in a barrel from the elf-king's halls!!!!!!!

Bilbo (Bilbo)
Bilbo Baggins
The bravest little hobbit of them all

Now he's back in his home in the land of the Shire,
that brave little hobbit whom we all admire,
just sittin' on a treasure of silver and gold
puffin' on his pipe in his hobbit-hole.

Bilbo (Bilbo)
Bilbo Baggins
He's only three feet tall
Bilbo (Bilbo)
Bilbo Baggins
The bravest little hobbit of them all

Durin
2006-06-18, 02:57 AM
ALL HAIL LEONARD

There lived a merchant in the days of old
who is remembered for the things he sold.
No silly trinkets silver, bronze or gold.
So I'm told, so I'm told.

He made a most delicious pumpkin pie,
which he presented to the passersby.
Before the sun set he'd be all but dry.
Folks would buy the whole supply.

He lived alone (he lived alone)
and every night he sat upon a throne of pumpkin pie.
I do not know his name (he'd never say his name).
He never wanted all the fame that came with pumpkin pie.

Before you knew it he was in full swing.
His pumpkin pies became the next big thing.
Soon he was called upon to feed the King.
And they'd sing, feed the King

The pie of pumpkin filled the King with glee.
He offered a castle for the recipe, but...
the merchant wouldn't even give it up for three.
No not he, no not he.

He lived alone (he lived alone)
and every night he sat upon a throne of pumpkin pie.
I do not know his name (he'd never say his name).
He never wanted all the fame that came with pumpkin pie.

The King was angry and he came unwound.
He called his men, and soon the merchant found
himself in a torture chamber underground.
Tied and bound, he sighed and frowned.

And so they tortured him for night and day.
They made him scream so much his hair turned gray, but--
as for the recipe, he would not say.
They could not flay his pride away.

He lived alone (he lived alone)
and every night he sat upon a throne of pumpkin pie.
I do not know his name (he'd never say his name).
He never wanted all the pain that came with pumpkin pie.

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 03:01 AM
ALL HAIL LEONARD NEMOY
Or Nimoy even. ;)

Durin
2006-06-18, 03:03 AM
*SMACK* never question him

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 03:05 AM
*SMACK* never question him
Nobody's questioning Nimoy--it's your spelling we're questioning, you short little hairy bugger. :D

Durin
2006-06-18, 03:11 AM
Alright wings thats it me fighter against yer... yer... whatever ye got. le's see who'll come out on top and who'll come out dead.

I warn ye he's recently made it to lvl twenty one making him an epic level fighter.

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 03:25 AM
Alright wings thats it me fighter against yer... yer... whatever ye got. le's see who'll come out on top and who'll come out dead.

I warn ye he's recently made it to lvl twenty one making him an epic level fighter.


Yawn. Well technically this avatar was inspired by my half-celestial 27th level barbarian/cleric/fighter/ranger/sorcerer/lightning warrior with a divine rank of 3. You don't really want to fight then, do you? :D

Durin
2006-06-18, 03:27 AM
along with my armor and weapons I'm a CR of thirty... Bring it stick

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 03:38 AM
along with my armor and weapons I'm a CR of thirty... Bring it stick
You haven't got a prayer, but as a demi-god I'll say one for you anyway: I pray that you learn your lesson.

Allows Durin to take the first swing, and stands still so Durin can actually hit him. Durin's blow doesn't even pentrate CS's damage reduction. Swings back, using Irresistible Blow to ignore Durin's armor, and would have stunned Durin for 10 rounds, except that he killed Durin with the damage outright.

Sorry friend, I warned you. ;)

Durin
2006-06-18, 04:16 AM
lesson not learned if we were to compare Character sheets it may not be nearly as one sided but I doesn't really care about flexing our preverbial muscles for the sake of an arguement about character superiority

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 07:23 AM
lesson not learned if we were to compare Character sheets it may not be nearly as one sided but I doesn't really care about flexing our preverbial muscles for the sake of an arguement about character superiority

Well it was your idea, silly boy. :D

Otterella
2006-06-18, 12:04 PM
I'm thinking this can be resolved with a new thread on the gaming board. Each of you transcribe your character sheets, and let the Mods be DM. Roll for init.

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 02:00 PM
I'm thinking this can be resolved with a new thread on the gaming board. Each of you transcribe your character sheets, and let the Mods be DM. Roll for init.


Nah, twas a silly idea from the start, and I think it's over now. Thanks anyway. :)

Alfryd
2006-06-18, 02:59 PM
Well, now that's perfectly unpleasant.
Potentially less unpleasant than ignorance of the fact.

Welcome to liberal jurisprudence, which rewards morons.
As opposed to conservative jurisprudence, which rewards the unscrupulous.

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 03:04 PM
Potentially less unpleasant than ignorance of the fact.
As opposed to conservative jurisprudence, which rewards the unscrupulous.
Ah, confusing political propaganda with the facts.

Alfryd
2006-06-18, 03:11 PM
Ah, confusing political propaganda with the facts.
I would ask you to clarify that unsubstantiated and inflammatory remark, but poltical debate is something the mods tend to frown upon 'round here.
I will however, say that being unaware of the potential for permanent impairment of genital function resulting from use of, say, Viagra, is particularly ironic given your comments on liberal jurisprudence rewarding morons. I somehow doubt that Pfizer advertise the fact.

LordVader
2006-06-18, 03:11 PM
This was just lame filler content.

Giant, I was not impressed.

You can do way better than that one

I think this tops the worst ever list.

Desperately waiting for next update.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW? YOU"RE A BARD! I'LL KILL YOU! grrrrr...

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 03:14 PM
I would ask you to clarify that unsubstantiated and inflammatory remark, but poltical debate is something the mods tend to frown upon 'round here.
I will however, say that being unaware of the potential for permanent impairment of genital function resulting from use of, say, Viagra, is particularly ironic given your comments on liberal jurisprudence rewarding morons. I somehow doubt that Pfizer advertise the fact.
Heh, you make an "unsubstantiated and inflammatory remark" about something you called "conservative jurisprudence" and accuse me of making an "unsubstantiated and inflammatory remark." Pathetic.



WHAT DO YOU KNOW? YOU"RE A BARD! I'LL KILL YOU! grrrrr...

Now, now. Let's not kill the bards. I mean, they have their uses. For instance there's, um...well let me get back to you on that. ;)

LordVader
2006-06-18, 03:17 PM
What uses? Rogues are better at sneaking, wizards better at spellcasting, and fighters better at fighting! They're sort of a composite. They aren't even required in an adventuring party.

CelestialStick
2006-06-18, 03:23 PM
What uses? Rogues are better at sneaking, wizards better at spellcasting, and fighters better at fighting! They're sort of a composite. They aren't even required in an adventuring party.

Well I was only joking around, but sure, I agree that they're not central to a party like a fighter, cleric or wizard. I've seen a couple of bards played and they were quite helpful by inspiring Competence and so forth, giving the others a slight edge over the enemy and adding another albeit mediocre melee combatant for the enemy to have to fight, taking a little pressure off the fighters. The ability to spontaneously cast extra healing spells and to use healing magic items doesn't hurt either.

Alfryd
2006-06-18, 03:36 PM
Heh, you make an "unsubstantiated and inflammatory remark"... Pathetic.
Oh, Touché! *Hohoho! *Though of course, I fail to see how it was more unsubstantiated and inflammatory than "welcome to liberal jurisprudence, which rewards morons." *I assume some hidden subtlety escaped me here, because I didn't see any mention of a liberal lawyer or legislator bagging the pool-diver a cash settlement.

What uses? Rogues are better at sneaking, wizards better at spellcasting, and fighters better at fighting! They're sort of a composite. They aren't even required in an adventuring party.
Bards aren't weak per se, they're just over-specialised by virtue of being *unspecialised.* *There is one very specific role they are meant to fulfill, as a group-support caster and occasional solo-artist, and at everything else they will be outdone. *There's not much room for tweaking to suit your needs.
Something more similar to a paladin balance, with better BAB and spells at higher levels, and possibly int-based casting, could well work better IMHO.

Galad
2006-06-18, 06:11 PM
i never use phrase Lol, but now i must :)

infiniteviking
2006-06-18, 07:47 PM
"The Oracle of the Sunken Valley is for entertainment purposes."

;D ;D ;D

Hilarious. And a 50% chance of more than two comics!? Yays!

Brother_Hood
2006-06-18, 07:54 PM
Loved it. :)

Durin
2006-06-18, 08:27 PM
AUUUGH EEK omg it's horrible!!! Gauntlet seven sorrows is the worst game ever

jomac2k
2006-06-19, 12:07 AM
Darn you, Rich Burlew.

Due to your random updating I'm now visiting the site every single day.

Love the comics though.

Blackdog
2006-06-19, 01:01 AM
Darn you, Rich Burlew.

Due to your random updating I'm now visiting the site every single day.

If you've taken psych 100, you'll recognize that as intermittent reinforcement -- look up BF Skinner sometime.

colorlessmidnight
2006-06-19, 01:16 AM
Awesome comic Rich. Keep up the good work.

The Glitter Ninja
2006-06-19, 02:19 AM
Heh, Tanikova, teenagers are always like that. Poor things.

A_Gray_Phantom
2006-06-19, 04:20 AM
Now, now. Let's not kill the bards. I mean, they have their uses. For instance there's, um...well let me get back to you on that. ;)
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(

...
...you're on my list...

Edit (From Celestial Stick): Well I was only joking around, but sure, agree that they're not central to a party like a fighter, cleric or wizard. I've seen a couple of bards played and they were quite helpful by inspiring Competence and so forth, giving the others a slight edge over the enemy and adding another albeit mediocre melee combatant for the enemy to have to fight, taking a little pressure off the fighters. The ability to spontaneously cast extra healing spells and to use healing magic items doesn't hurt either. **snip**

You've redeemed yourself...

Shea Landford
2006-06-19, 10:48 AM
Very funny comic, Rich. I loved the parts about the side effects. I always laugh at the commercials for medicine, I mean they are hilarious.


i.e. - *a commercial for flu medicine* ANNOUNCER: Side effects may include coughing, sneezing, puking, runny nose, ...

Shea Landford
2006-06-19, 11:00 AM
And just to make it worse -

http://www.alteringtime.com/features/misc/?p=baggins

- Funny, isn't it? ;D


I know where they got that from. AFter about five seconds I knew. It is from a flash movie that is awesome, and it looks like they just did it in real life.

Go to www.legendaryfrog.net, click on enter site, click on movies, find one titled "One ring to rule them all 2" and watch it. Great movie.

CelestialStick
2006-06-20, 07:08 PM
Oh, Touché! Hohoho! Though of course, I fail to see how it was more unsubstantiated and inflammatory than "welcome to liberal jurisprudence, which rewards morons." I assume some hidden subtlety escaped me here, because I didn't see any mention of a liberal lawyer or legislator bagging the pool-diver a cash settlement.
Bards aren't weak per se, they're just over-specialised by virtue of being *unspecialised.* There is one very specific role they are meant to fulfill, as a group-support caster and occasional solo-artist, and at everything else they will be outdone. There's not much room for tweaking to suit your needs.
Something more similar to a paladin balance, with better BAB and spells at higher levels, and possibly int-based casting, could well work better IMHO.
I refered to a half-century old body of juridisprudence created by trial lawyers and judges who call themselves liberals (or at least did until the 1980 election shamed them into silence about being liberal) to move from notions of individual responsiblity in tort law (with at least contributory negligence, if you know anything about it, which I suspect you don't) while you just took the term "liberal jurisprudence," substitued the term "conservative" for "liberal" and and then made an insult, like a child saying, "I know you are but what am I?!" Pathetic indeed.



>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(>:( >:( >:( >:(

...
...you're on my list...

Edit (From Celestial Stick): Well I was only joking around, but sure, agree that they're not central to a party like a fighter, cleric or wizard. I've seen a couple of bards played and they were quite helpful by inspiring Competence and so forth, giving the others a slight edge over the enemy and adding another albeit mediocre melee combatant for the enemy to have to fight, taking a little pressure off the fighters. The ability to spontaneously cast extra healing spells and to use healing magic items doesn't hurt either. **snip**

You've redeemed yourself...
LOL. I'm quite relieved. ;)

Tarlonniel
2006-06-20, 07:28 PM
It is from a flash movie that is awesome, and it looks like they just did it in real life.

Ah - other way around. The real life version came first, and they parodied it in the flash video.

CelestialStick
2006-06-20, 07:40 PM
Ah - other way around. The real life version came first, and they parodied it in the flash video.


It's always nice to get the history of things right. Well done, Tarlonniel!

Tarlonniel
2006-06-20, 07:47 PM
It's always nice to get the history of things right.

I think we can forgive a 13-year-old for not recognizing true, authentic 70's camp when he sees it ;)

CelestialStick
2006-06-20, 07:55 PM
I think we can forgive a 13-year-old for not recognizing true, authentic 70's camp when he sees it ;)

I wasn't criticizing the 13-year-old; I was complimenting you. :)