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Vuurmeester
2007-09-13, 01:29 PM
I was wondering from which of the many groups of tribes/races people descended.

I for myself am roughly 90% Nethersaxon, with 5% of scandinavian blood and the remaining parts are other European groups, with perhaps the oddball asian thrown in deep into my ancestry.

Castaras
2007-09-13, 01:34 PM
Isn't it "Celts"?

I have Norman blood running through meh veins, I think.

Skippy
2007-09-13, 01:36 PM
I'm all latino, descending from latinos as far as I know.

Vuurmeester
2007-09-13, 01:38 PM
Isn't it "Celts"?

Possibly, We spell it Kelten, but english isn't the same as dutch, I guess.

eidreff
2007-09-13, 01:38 PM
Hmm, i think i'm a bit of a mongrel, Irish back there 3 generations i think, scottish, french (breton i think?) probably a bit of norse viking type, and judging by my use of swear words lots of Anglo Saxon.

other than that my blood is my own (apart form the four pints loaned to me by the bloodbank).

Vuurmeester
2007-09-13, 01:40 PM
Hmm, i think i'm a bit of a mongrel, Irish back there 3 generations i think, scottish, french (breton i think?) probably a bit of norse viking type, and judging by my use of swear words lots of Anglo Saxon.

other than that my blood is my own (apart form the four pints loaned to me by the bloodbank).

The current French are IIRC indeed Bretons, Scots and Irishman I believe are Celts.

Morty
2007-09-13, 01:44 PM
Given my last name, place I come from and outlook I'd say I'm a Slav with maybe pinch of somethone else.

bosssmiley
2007-09-13, 01:50 PM
English (Tyneside Irish), so a thoroughbred mongrel.

(Yes, that's an oxymoron. Once you get your head around it you begin to understand the English a little better :smallwink: )


Given my last name, place I come from and outlook I'd say I'm a Slav with maybe pinch of somethone else.

Woah! You get Slavs in Poland? Who'da thunk it. :smallbiggrin:

Morty
2007-09-13, 02:12 PM
Woah! You get Slavs in Poland? Who'da thunk it. :smallbiggrin:

To be honest, now it's hard to tell. I say that I'm a Slav by virtue of living in middle Europe. But in 21th century God knows what blood does my family have. Say with for example Germans in Germany, as strange as it may sound:smallwink: .

Dr. Bath
2007-09-13, 02:23 PM
Go Anglo-Celtic ancestry! With a possibility of Spainiard, due to that armada and whatnot.

Ceska
2007-09-13, 02:32 PM
The current French are IIRC indeed Bretons, Scots and Irishman I believe are Celts.
Bretons are Celts, as are Gaels (Scots and Irish), Welsh and whatever people from Cornwall are called. French are a mixture of Romano Celts with Franks, at least most of them.

I myself am a mixture of Bavarian, Southern Slav, Western Slav, Jewish, Romano Celtic and whatnot. Races never existed and never will. And I personally don't care about the tribe my ancestors lived in.


I'm all latino, descending from latinos as far as I know.
That's the spirit! Since Latino is not a race but a mixture of all different kind of "races".

phoenixineohp
2007-09-13, 02:44 PM
I have 2.39% Engli.... no just kidding. My father is adopted, so no idea. But he is white and went into a strong Irish family with some Scottish leanings. My mother just says 'the English countries in Europe' and won't specify. So really? I have very little idea. :smallfrown:

Dihan
2007-09-13, 02:48 PM
Bretons are Celts, as are Gaels (Scots and Irish), Welsh and whatever people from Cornwall are called.

The Celtic language groups, Brythonic and Goidelic are the only surviving groups. Brythonic includes Welsh, Breton, Cornish, Cumbric and Pictish - the last two are extinct though. Goidelic is Irish, Scottish Gaelic and Manx - the latter being close to extinction.

Also, as "Celt" in modern terms is the overall definition for those who speak a Celtic language; that would mean anyone who speaks Welsh, Breton, Cornish, Irish or Scots Gaelic is therefore a "Celt".

On a side note, Welsh, Breton and Cornish are very similar languages.

Rykaj
2007-09-13, 02:54 PM
Probably about 80% Frisian (if they're a seperate tribe, I say yes :smallwink:), and the rest Scandinavian with a hint of Nethersaxon blood. Yes, tall, broadshouldered and blonde, I could be in the dictionary! :smalltongue:

Telonius
2007-09-13, 02:56 PM
Adopted here, so biologically not much known. From my general appearance, and what I do know about my birth parents, half Italian (most likely northern) and half German/Scottish. I probably have a bunch of Vandal and Visigoth from the Italian. Given how I look, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some Greek, Middle Eastern, or North African as well. For the Scottish and German, who knows? Pict, Viking, Celt, Dane, Slav, Saxon, Hun, Mongol ... could be just about anything. Sometimes I get this funny image in my head of two opposing ancestors of mine shaking fists at each other from either side of Hadrian's Wall. So yeah, I'm potentially just about everything but African, Asian, and Native American.

From my adoptive family, Swabian on my dad's side. On my mom's side, Irish, kind of. The family was originally living in Brittany, but somehow made its way over to Ireland.

rubakhin
2007-09-13, 03:32 PM
Half Slav, half English/Irish (are they genetically similar?), in short. In long:

Except for my family members who live in Odessa or Warsaw, most of my relatives are from that nasty bit of land that's constantly either Poland, Ukraine, or Russia. They've been moving the borders for the past zillion years and no one knows what goes where anymore. Eventually we gave up trying to figure out what we were and moved to America. "Russified Pole" would probably be the best way to describe me ethnically (*waves at all the other polaks*), but I do have Ukrainian and Russian blood.

My grandparents were all born overseas, coming to America at a young age. My great-grandfather was a Victorian gentleman with a serious decadent streak. He started sleeping with the maid, and when she got pregnant he got married in secret. Eventually he had to flee with his wife and child from to London to America, changing his name on the way to avoid scandal in the New World. He became a carpenter - he worked on the Empire State Building - and somehow managed to amass enough money to build a factory. Then it burnt down and the maid died of consumption. He drank himself to death some time later. My grandfather grew up in an orphanage. Later he met my grandmother, another immigrant. Oddly enough, my paternal grandmother and maternal great-grandmother grew up on the same street in Poland/Russia/Ukraine.

My mother was the daughter of another Slav immigrant and my gram, who is a citizen of Ireland. Weirdly enough, the Irish side was always going back and forth from America and Ireland, and somehow or another I got Lakota blood, because my great-great-grandfather brought an Indian bride back to Ireland. The people on my Irish side, if you go back a few hundred years, become English, and that line's been traced all the way back to the devils. I'm related to John Wilmot (the author of the first piece of printed pornography in the English language), and then further back I'm a direct descendant of the Plantagenets, William the Conquerer, Eleanor of Aquitaine, Richard the Lionhearted, etc. etc.

I wasn't raised by my parents until late in childhood, though, instead, I was brought up by my Russian great-grandmother in Ukraine until she went mad and they had to put her away. I didn't go to America and learn English until later. To be honest I don't really identify as American, despite my family's history in the country - I don't even look American, I look extraordinarily Slavonic despite my Western blood. I'm going to be taking up permanent residence in Russia soon.

Gygaxphobia
2007-09-13, 04:00 PM
The Celtic language groups, Brythonic and Goidelic are the only surviving groups. Brythonic includes Welsh, Breton, Cornish, Cumbric and Pictish - the last two are extinct though. Goidelic is Irish, Scottish Gaelic and Manx - the latter being close to extinction.

Also, as "Celt" in modern terms is the overall definition for those who speak a Celtic language; that would mean anyone who speaks Welsh, Breton, Cornish, Irish or Scots Gaelic is therefore a "Celt".

On a side note, Welsh, Breton and Cornish are very similar languages.

Yes the word "Celt" can only be applied to language and culture since the gene pool is so thoroughly mixed up it makes no sense to localise it.

Dihan
2007-09-13, 04:09 PM
Yes the word "Celt" can only be applied to language and culture since the gene pool is so thoroughly mixed up it makes no sense to localise it.

Which makes me a Celt as I speak Welsh. :smallsmile:

StickMan
2007-09-13, 04:10 PM
Well lets see I've got Irish, French, German and a few other nationalities in my family, so I think I'm a total mutt.

Aizle
2007-09-13, 04:14 PM
25% Norwegian, 25% Swedish, 50% Anglo-Saxon Mutt

Sisqui
2007-09-13, 05:55 PM
100% American :smallbiggrin: . But, to get specific ethnically, German, English and Cherokee.




other than that my blood is my own (apart form the four pints loaned to me by the bloodbank).

You're welcome :smallwink: Getting my 3 gallon pin next week!

Quirinus_Obsidian
2007-09-13, 05:56 PM
Oh, I am the biggest mutt of them all.

German, Irish, French-Canadian, Native American (Chippewa), a little Italian and some Moor. Yes, Moor. I traced my family history back to the Moors. :smallwink:

Moff Chumley
2007-09-13, 06:01 PM
Lets see, Chinese, Australian, Native American, Irish, and Eastern European in general, which means plenty of Goths, Germans, and Celts. So does that make me a Nomadic Pirate Ninja Cannibal?

blackfox
2007-09-13, 06:01 PM
Mostly German (mother's mother, mother's father's father, father's father's father and their ancestors) with some Polish thrown in (father's mother's father) and probably at least one ancestor from everywhere else in Eastern Europe. My mother's father's mother was Scots, randomly enough.

Evrine
2007-09-13, 07:31 PM
Polish, German, Welsh, Irish, and Dutch. Who knows how they all got mixed together.

Em Blackleaf
2007-09-13, 07:35 PM
Okay, okay, I know this... German, Scottish, Irish, uhhh... English.
I might be wrong, I'm not sure.

Dragonrider
2007-09-13, 07:52 PM
I'm mostly like Em...

About 1/8 German, I think....some Dutch too. Most of the rest is Welsh and English, with some Scottish and Irish thrown into the mix. And a dash of Iroquois not so far back, just to keep everyone on their toes.

The Welsh, Scot, and German are actually the most prevalent, I think. At least, they're the bits that can still be found in our names...

My mom's parents are blueblood New Englanders whose ancestors founded Beverly, Massachusetts and fought at the battle of Bunker Hill in the Revolution. I guess my great-great grandfather was an abolitionist who on his 15th birthday signed up to fight for the Union in the Civil War. It's pretty cool. But I like hearing about my dad's side, too, who mostly immigrated in the last 100 years. Mom calls him a "mongrel" and says "that's all right, people with more varied genes are better-looking anyway." :smallwink:

ForzaFiori
2007-09-13, 08:05 PM
I'm a mutt.
though i know I have:
Italian
English
German
and Hungarian.

I think i have a small amount of Scandinavian. Also, the Italian is a mix of (most likely, based on my skin and hair color) original Italian, African, Middle Eastern, and other Europeans. Not sure what exact mixture, but those are all probably in it.

Evil_Pacifist
2007-09-13, 08:16 PM
French, Italian, Greek (SPARTAAA!), other stuff. I think.

Renegade Paladin
2007-09-13, 08:25 PM
Mostly Gaelic (pre-Saxon inhabitants of the British Isles, namely Ireland in my case) here, though also Anglo-Saxon and some German.

EmeraldRose
2007-09-13, 08:48 PM
Hmm...as far as I know from the research my mom has done on both sides of my family:

Irish, English, Scottish, French, German, Danish, and Cajun.

Da Beast
2007-09-13, 08:50 PM
I don't know the percents, but I'm Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish. I'm a Viking through and through.

ZombieRockStar
2007-09-13, 08:50 PM
My family is almost completely English, with just a bit of Austrian thrown in from my grandfather's side. So that makes me solidly Anglo-Saxon.


Also, as "Celt" in modern terms is the overall definition for those who speak a Celtic language; that would mean anyone who speaks Welsh, Breton, Cornish, Irish or Scots Gaelic is therefore a "Celt".

So, by definition, I'm in the process of becoming Celtic, since I'm learning Irish?

Gaelbert
2007-09-13, 08:58 PM
since I'm learning Irish?

That's awesome.
Me and my family come from Germany, Scotland, England, and Ireland. But I live in the U.S. Apparently, my great great great great great great great great grandpa was the duke of a county in the U.K. somewhere called Westmoreland or something. I think.

Cruxador
2007-09-13, 09:06 PM
Half Danish (Mostly Viking, probably bits of some Germanic races) and Half Spanish (entirely generic Spaniard, whatever race nobles are)

Youngblood
2007-09-13, 09:21 PM
I think I'm probably about 75% Scandinavian and 25% Cherokee, with the odd Scot or Irish person thrown in there. Or in other words, I'm 100% American mutt.

Frosty Flake
2007-09-13, 09:41 PM
The one side is simple, being just half Danish (Sjaelland) and half Norwegian (Telemark)... but the other side, if my family is to be beleived, is descended from a community of some sort of crazy German cult that fled to ireland and intermarried with the scottish descendants of the Ulster plantation and then became a loosely organized group of preachers who's eldest sons were always named Theophilus before settling in southern Ontario sometime after the Encumbered Estates Act at which point the family was (they say) kept entirely German-Celt and Faithful untill someone ran off with some blonde atheist viking girl... *gasp for air*

Rubakhin, that's an awesome story.

Jack Squat
2007-09-13, 09:51 PM
Well, if you're regarding ancestry, I'm mostly Irish and German, with some Scottish thrown in, and we haven't a clue about the history of my grandmother's family. Far back as we can trace is that her grandmother grew up in Oklahoma.

Serpentine
2007-09-13, 10:30 PM
All English. How dull :smallsigh: My mother's side's been in Australia for 6 generations, but I haven't heard of anyone breeding with anyone not of English stock (doesn't mean it didn't happen, though). My dad was born in England, and so far as I know all his family's from England who-knows-how-many generations back. Which is odd, cuz if you look at one of the pictures I posted in You, he really doesn't look English. Welsh, maybe, but his family's not from there...

Hell Puppi
2007-09-13, 10:45 PM
Mongrel to the core...my family is like a pokemon game: Gotta catch 'em all.:smalltongue:
Yeah I know it's corny, but it's true. All we need is a russian and Maybe someone from china and I think we're set.:smallbiggrin:

Nibleswick
2007-09-14, 03:23 AM
All right, this is gonna take a while, my dad is a genealogist.

On my mother's side it's all English, not even Welsh, Irish, or Scottish, very boring.

On my dad's side I have: Scottish, German (go Steinhudde (SP?)), Swiss, Dutch, Belgian, French (Huguenots), Spanish (I'm a descendant of the Duke of Alba, i.e. the Butcher of Flanders, and being Huguenot I am also a descendant of the people butchered at Flanders:smallwink:), Austrian, Polish, Italian, thats about it if you don't want specifics. :smallbiggrin:

Swooper
2007-09-14, 03:47 AM
I'm an Icelander, and since all Icelanders can trace their lineage the same guy (the last catholic bishop in Iceland, ironically - he met the axe in 1550) I'm likely an inbred mix of Scandinavian vikings and Irish slaves (we like to think the vikings stole all the pretty women from the British isles :smalltongue: ) like mostly everyone else.

Mr Croup
2007-09-14, 07:25 AM
Oh, I am the biggest mutt of them all.

German, Irish, French-Canadian, Native American (Chippewa), a little Italian and some Moor. Yes, Moor. I traced my family history back to the Moors. :smallwink:

I do believe that I've got you beat.

I'm 1/4 Japanese, with the rest a mixture of Scottish, Irish, English, Welsh, Cornish, Dutch, German, Austrian, Hungarian, and French Huguenot.

I like to think of my ancestors as old world promiscuous jet-setters.

Serpentine
2007-09-14, 07:50 AM
A Canadian friend of mine is (and I'm gonna miss something here):
Native American
English
French
Swedish
Japanese I think, or was it Chinese?
Annnnnd at least one more thing. I think it's actually a couple.

bosssmiley
2007-09-14, 12:08 PM
All English. How dull...

Dull, how dull? English roses are teh hawtnesses! Even if they are up side down and surrounded by Drop Bears.

Heck! Especially then! :smallbiggrin:

PlatinumJester
2007-09-14, 12:17 PM
I'm the only Ginger person of Austrian descent ever though I have a bit of English chucked in there as well.

Telonius
2007-09-14, 03:05 PM
Dull, how dull? English roses are teh hawtnesses! Even if they are up side down and surrounded by Drop Bears.

Heck! Especially then! :smallbiggrin:

Oh man. What makes that worse is that my current adventuring group calls itself the "Bad News Drop Bears." :smallbiggrin:

sktarq
2007-09-14, 03:26 PM
While we can't be sure on my father's side (he was adopted-record destroyed) he was born in a village that seems to trace everyone back to the Celts with a dash of Dane blood. My mother is mostly Irish (a la Limerick) with the rest is from Norich and bit of Galacian Spanish (another Celt group genetically but uses a modified Spanish (mix Portugese (90%) with Irish (10%) and a tiny drip of Basque (>.2%) and call it a spanish dialect)).

I'm a Celt.

Trog
2007-09-14, 03:30 PM
Danish, English, French, German mix.

Which makes me... er... some sort of breakfast consisting of a sweet roll, a muffin, a baguette and sausage. Oh and I'm from Wisconsin so a glass of milk with that and smother the whole thing with cheese.

Basically I'm the #3 on the menu... The Heart Attack Special. :smalltongue:

Thes Hunter
2007-09-14, 04:50 PM
People of my family tree came from the following ethic/geographical regions:

Scotland, Germany, Romania, Ireland, England, Wales (cause you got to have the full set you know), and Cherokee.

Most of my family have been on American soil for so long that we have forgotten where we came from, since I hear tale that I can claim to have ancestors from the American Revolution. That makes me a mixed up mutt, and likely as much English as I am Cherokee. Which ain't much. Given it was my supposed to be my grandmother's grandmother who was Native American. (But then again, as with many such family stories like that, it may turn out to be legend. One of these days when I have the money I am going to pay for the mDNA test to see if this story is legend or truth.)

The closest immigrant family member I have is my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother who came from the Transylvanian Alps region before World War I. My Grandfather was the youngest child and was the only natural born citizen. But this is the closest thing I have to anything I could claim as an 'ethnic' identity. Well, besides run of the mill 'American'. Which seems to be unfashionable, since us Americans are always seeming to be claiming some other ethnic identity. Especially on such holidays as Saint Patty's day. Maybe we just want an excuse to drink as much over-priced dyed beer as physically possible. Who knows.