Super Smash Bros Brawl

[Jibar]

Well, since it's now such a short time until you yanks get it, and the last thread is kinda long, here's a brand spanking new thread.

So, Super Smash Bros, one of Nintendo's greatest ideas ever, is going to soon be bringing a whole new game right to your doorstep, so I bet you're all just bubbling with joy, or wracked with gamegasms. One of the two.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about, get yo sorry self over to the Dojo (http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/index.html) for some learning.

Thanks to Brawl's Wifi mode, we GiTPers can finally play each other across the internets, and truly show our skills. To facilitate this, I'll be using this front page to chronicle all the friend codes of whoever wants to play.
For this of us who have really been around, tgva8889 brings you the second part of the list, who have you mastered, and who are you going to when Brawl is released.

So just leave your friend code, mastered characters and favourite new ones in the thread and I'll pop 'em right here.

Oh, before the list though, quick thing.
DO NOT SPOIL SUBSPACE EMMISSARY
Seriously.
Many of us want to experience it for ourselves, so if you ruin it I swear I will bring the wrath of Cat-Muffin upon you.

Players

Jibar
Friend Code:
Mastered: Luigi
Mastering: King Dedede

tgva8889
Friend Code:
Mastered: Marth + Jigglypuff
Mastering: Lucario + Pokemon Trainer

doihaveaname?
Friend Code:
Mastered: Mewtwo + Pichu + Young Link
Mastering: Toon Link + Lucario + Pokemon Trainer

Mando Knight
Friend Code:
Mastered:
Mastering:

The Linker
Friend Code:
Mastered:
Mastering:

The Duskblade
Friend Code:
Mastered: Sheik
Mastering: Ike

Drascin
Friend Code:
Mastered: Jigglypuff + Marth
Mastering: Metaknight + Lucario + Pit

Geno9999
Friend Code:
Mastered: Mario + Dr. Mario + Luigi
Mastering: Bowser + Samus + Link

Dragor
Friend Code:
Mastered: Falco + Marth
Mastering:

Ronsian
Friend Code:
Mastered: Marth + Fox + Link
Mastering: Metaknight + Snake + Pit

[kpenguin]

I would hold off on considering a character "mastered" just yet. I have no doubt that we will have to retrain our skills for the transition from Melee to Brawl.

Unless any of you are Japanese.

EDIT: How many people on these boards are Japanese anyway? I've never actually seen someone with a Japanese location.

[Doihaveaname?]

Indeed, and the character I had "mastered" isn't in. I'll have to have a look when the game comes out.

[The Duskblade]

Hmm I'll put my name down. I'll have to get back to you on friend code though.

Mastered: Sheik (I don't think I'd call it mastered persay.)
Mastering: I suspect Ike.

Hmm I hope the merry old land of Oz gets brawl with the US. If not we're probally waiting till after europe :frown:

[Jibar]

Mastered isn't so much Who are you going to win straight away with in Brawl?
More, Who was your best in Melee?
I mean, I would have put down Pichu, but that was more a matter of spite than being good.
I'm guessing yours was Mewtwo Doihaveaname?

[The Duskblade]

Ahh pichu the only thing more evil then destroying your opponent with a large yellow rat, is destroying your opponent with a tiny yellow rat that hurt's it's self.

[Doihaveaname?]

I'm guessing yours was Mewtwo Doihaveaname?

Yes, I was also good with Pichu but not with Pikachu, likewise with Young Link and Link. You could say that Toon Link is the one I've "mastered" as he's just a redesigned Young Link. I am really looking forward to fighting as Pokemon Trainer and Lucario though.

[Drascin]

Well, it's still a looong time since we get Brawl (goddamn it, Nintendo! Europeans are people too! We even pay more for the freaking games!), but still, I am pretty certain of who I'll be using.

Mastered: Jigglypuff, Marth
Mastering: Metaknight (because I have always thought he was awesome), Pit (because of nostalgia value), Lucario (because he looks like the Mewtwo replacement)

[Jibar]

Say, on a subject that doesn't involve me making edits,
Anyone else seen Lucario recovering? He seems to dash and stick to walls.
Looks a lot better than Mewtwo's Teleport at the least.

[Drascin]

Say, on a subject that doesn't involve me making edits,
Anyone else seen Lucario recovering? He seems to dash and stick to walls.
Looks a lot better than Mewtwo's Teleport at the least.

A better recovery than Mewtwo's? Man, lucario is looking interesting. I mean, pretty much the only thing Mewtwo had going for him was having one of the best recoveries in the game (huge jump plus an up-B very useful to get past edgeguards). I'll have to find some videos of it. To the youtube-mobile!

[Geno9999]

Okay here's my list of characters;

Mastered: Mario, Luigi, Dr. Mario.

Mastering: Bowser, Mewtwo, Samus, Link.

That's it right there. Though I'll use Lucario instead of Mewtwo, and the Dr is just a Mario that hits harder and harder fly off.

[Dragor]

Hurray, new thread!

I'd say that I've Mastered Marth and Falco. I'm not currently mastering anyone, as I've not actually picked up Melee in about a month or two, as none of my family want to play and my friends live too far away. :smallfrown:

From this point on, I think I'm going to refrain from Dojo. It's going to be a long wait for us Europe-goers. *sighs aloud*

[Ronsian]

I'm in.

Friend Code: Not known yet, do we have to have friend codes for the Wiis and Super Smash Bros Brawl? Or just Brawl?
Mastered: Marth, Link, and Fox (I might be pretty good at Ike picking up)
Mastering: Metaknight (awesome), Snake (always wanted a bazooka in it), and finally Pit (pretty cool, a bow and can fly).

[Jibar]

A better recovery than Mewtwo's? Man, lucario is looking interesting. I mean, pretty much the only thing Mewtwo had going for him was having one of the best recoveries in the game (huge jump plus an up-B very useful to get past edgeguards). I'll have to find some videos of it. To the youtube-mobile!

Well the problem was it didn't do any damage. Lucario's does just that. I think.
I haven't seen that much of him to be honest. He's not Dedede, so I'm not keeping up with him as much.

[The Linker]

I had fun with Mewtwo's up-B in some one-on-one matches. My enemy would come towards me, BING! I'm on the other side of him. He rushes again, BING! Soon results in swearing and physical harm, shortly after maniacal laughter on my part.

I would say... Mastered: Pikachu and Marth.

Mastering: Like I said before, I don't really choose one person to master, I just go with my gut and whoever looks like fun for each match (I'll probably be picking 'random' for most of my online matches) but if I had to choose, I'd say Meta Knight. And maybe Lucario. Ooh, and maybe ROB-- I DON'T KNOW! Bah, I pick Meta Knight, Lucario and Pikachu. :smalltongue:

Oh, and thank you, cat-muffin, for the Subspace Emissary spoiler barrier. That truly is the one thing I really don't want to know about. :smallredface:

[Aziraphale]

Ooh! OOh! Me me me! This sounds exceelnt fun.
It'll probably be like, june by the time the EU gets it. :smallfurious:

However, I have Mastered Roy (and sorta marth, but not properly) and intend to be mastering Ike. Hooray, Fire Emblem!

[Doihaveaname?]

Here's the soundtrack, there's atleast 300 songs here, the "???" ones were unknown to the person who compiled the list:

A: Mario Series

A01 - Super Mario Bros. - Overworld
A02 - Super Mario Bros. - Underground
A03 - Super Mario Bros. - Underwater
A04 - Super Mario Land - Easton Kingdom
A05 - Super Mario Bros. 3 - Airship Fortress
A06 - Super Mario World-Super Mario Bros. 3 - Castle-Vs. Boom Boom
A07 - Super Mario World - Title/Ending
A08 - New Super Mario Bros. - Overworld
A09 - Luigi's Mansion - Main Theme
A10 - Mario & Luigi Partners in Time - Gritzy Desert
A13 - Super Mario Sunshine - Isle Delfino [Original]
A14 - Super Mario Sunshine - Ricco Harbour [Original]
A15 - Super Mario 64 - Overworld [Original]
A16 - Super Mario Bros. - Medley
A17 - Mario Bros. - Medley
A20 - Super Mario Kart - Mario Circuit
A21 - Mario Kart 64 - Circuit
A22 - Mario Kart DS - Waluigi Pinball
A23 - Mario Kart Double Dash - Rainbow Road [Original]

B: DK Series

B01 - Donkey Kong Country - Jungle Japes
B02 - Donkey Kong Country - DK Island Swing-Bonus Room Blitz [Original]
B03 - Donkey Kong - Medley
B04 - Donkey Kong - Medley 2
B05 - Donkey Kong Country - Vs. King K. Rool-Ship Deck 2
B06 - Donkey Kong Country 2 Diddy Kong's Quest - Stickerbrush Symphony (Bramble
Blast)
B07 - Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - Battle for Storm Hill [Original]
B08 - Donkey Kong Country - Jungle Groove 2
B09 - Donkey Kong - Level 1
B10 - Donkey Kong Barrel Blast - Jungle

C: The Legend of Zelda Series

C01 - The Legend of Zelda - Title-Dungeon
C02 - The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past - Overworld
C03 - The Legend of Zelda II Link's Awakening - Great Temple-Temple
C04 - The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past - Dark World
C05 - The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past - Dark World Woods
C07 - The Legend of Zelda - Overworld
C08 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Hyrule Field
C09 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Ocarina of Time Medley
C10 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Windmill Hut-Ganondorf's Theme
C11 - The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker - Molgera [Original]
C12 - The Legend of Zelda Four Swords - Minigame
C13 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Gerudo Valley [Original]
C14 - The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask - Termina Field [Original]
C15 - The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker- Dragon Roost Island [Original]
C16 - The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker - Ocean [Original]
C17 - The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess - Hyrule Field [Original]
C18 - The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess - Hidden Village [Original]
C19 - The Legend of Zelda The Twilight Princess - Midna's Desperation

D: Metroid Series

D01 - Metroid - Brinstar
D02 - Metroid - Norfair
D03 - Metroid - Credits
D04 - Super Metroid - Vs. Ridley
D05 - Super Metroid - Credits
D06 - Metroid Fusion - Sector 1
D07 - Metroid Prime - Title-Credits
D08 - Metroid Prime - Vs. Parasite Queen [Original]
D09 - Metroid Prime - Vs. Meta-Ridley [Original]
D10 - Metroid Prime 2 Echoes - Hunters [Original]

E: Yoshi Series

E01 - Yoshi's Story - Yoshi's Ending
E02 - Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island - Athletic-Baby Bowser Introduction
E03 - Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island - Makin' Eggs, Throwin' Eggs
E05 - ???
E06 - ??? - Yoshi's Island DS
E07 - Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island - Athletic

F: Kirby Series

F01 - Kirby Air Ride - Legendary Air Ride Machine
F02 - Kirby Super Star - Vs. King Dedede
F03 - Kirby - Boss Medley
F04 - Kirby's Adventure - Butter Building
F05 - Kirby Super Star - Gourment Race
F06 - Kirby's Super Star - Meta-Knight's Revenge
F07 - Kirby Super Star - Vs. Marx
F08 - Kirby 64 - Zero Two
F09 - Kirby & The Amazing Mirror - Nature Area [Original]
F10 - Kirby Air Ride - Checker Knights [Original]
F11 - Kirby Air Ride - Frozen Hillside [Original]
F12 - Kirby Squeak Squad - Squeak Battle

G: Star Fox Series

G01 - Main Theme - Star Fox
G02 - Star Fox - Corneria
G03 - Star Fox - Medley? Main Theme?
G04 - Star Fox 64 - Area 6
G05 - Star Fox 64 - Star Wolf
G07 - Star Fox Assault - ??? [Original]
G08 - Star Fox Assault - ??? [Original]
G09 - Star Fox Assault - Star Wolf [Original]
G10 - Star Fox - Space Armada
G11 - ???

H: Pokemon Series

H01 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Main Theme
H02 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Pokemon Center
H03 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Pokemon Route 01-Pallet Town
H04 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Title-Evolving Theme
H05 - Pokemon Ruby-Sapphire - Wild Pokemon Battle
H06 - Pokemon Ruby-Sapphire - Champion Road
H07 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Wild Pokemon Battle
H08 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Dialga-Palkia Battle
H09 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Team Galaxy Battle
H10 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Route 209

I: F-Zero Series

I01 - F-Zero - Mute City
I02 - F-Zero - White Land
I03 - F-Zero - Fire Field
I04 - F-Zero X - Main Menu [Original]
I05 - F-Zero X - Silence ~Dream Chaser~ [Original]
I06 - F-Zero X - Devil's Forest ~Devil's Call In Your Heart~ [Original]
I07 - F-Zero X - White Land ~Climb Up And Get The Last Chance~ [Original]
I08 - F-Zero GX - Replay ~Brain Cleaner~ [Original]
I09 - F-Zero GX - Vegas Palace ~Shotgun Kiss~ [Original]
I10 - F-Zero GX - Green Plant ~Planet Colors~ [Original]

J: Fire Emblem Series

J02 - Fire Emblem - Main Theme
J03 - Fire Emblem Gaiden - With Mila's Divine Protection (Celica Map 1)
J04 - ???
J06 - Fire Emblem Blazing Sword - Preparing to Advance
J07 - Fire Emblem Blazing Sword - Winning Road
J08 - Fire Emblem Blazing Sword - Strike
J09 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Vs. Black Knight [Original]
J10 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Crimea Attacks [Original]
J11 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Power-Hungry Fool [Original]
J12 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Victory Is Near [Original]
J13 - Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn - ??? [Original]

K: Earthbound Series

K01 - Mother - ???
K05 - Mother - Humoresque of a Little Dog
K07 - Mother 3 - Porky's Theme
K08 - ???
K09 - Mother 3 - Unfounded Revenge-Smashing Song of Praise

L: Pikmin Series

L01 - Pikmin 2 - Main Theme
L02 - Pikmin - Forest of Hope [Original]
L03 - Pikmin - Environmental Sounds
L04 - Pikmin - Ai no Uta-Song of Love-Credits
L05 - Pikmin 2 - Tane no Uta
L06 - Pikmin - Main Theme [Original]
L07 - Pikmin - Stage Cleared-Title Screen [Original]
L08 - Pikmin - Ai no Uta (French)-Song of Love-Credits [Original]

M: WarioWare Series

M01 - WarioWare, Inc. - Main Theme
M02 - WarioWare, Inc. - Medley
M03 - WarioWare Twisted! - Mona Pizza (Japanese)
M04 - WarioWare Twisted! - Mona Pizza (English)
M05 - Wario Ware Touched! - I Love Mic (Japanese)
M06 - Wario Ware Touched! - I Love Mic (English)
M07 - WarioWare Touched! - Ashley's Song (Japanese)
M08 - WarioWare Touched! - Ashley's Song (English)
M09 - ???
M10 - ???
M11 - ???
M12 - ???
M13 - ???
M14 - ???
M15 - ???
M16 - ???
M17 - WarioWare, Inc. - The Maze That Pays [Original]
M18 - ???

N: Animal Crossing Series

N01 - Animal Crossing Wild World - Title
N02 - Animal Crossing - Go K.K. Rider!
N03 - ???
N05 - Animal Crossing Wild World - The Roost
N06 - Animal Crossing Wild World - Town Hall-Nook's Store
N07 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Cruisin' [Original]
N08 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Western [Original]
N09 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Gumbo [Original]
N10 - Animal Crossing - Rockin' K.K. [Original]
N11 - Animal Crossing - DJ K.K. [Original]
N12 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Condor [Original]

P: Kid Icarus

P01 - Kid Icarus - Underworld.mp3
P02 - Kid Icarus - Title
P03 - Kid Icarus - Overworld.mp3
P04 - Kid Icarus - NES Medley

Q: NES Series

Q01 - NES Medley
Q02 - ???
Q04 - Dr. Mario - Chill
Q05 - Clu Clu Land - Medley
Q06 - Balloon Fight - Balloon Flight
Q07 - Ice Climber - Main Theme
Q08 - Shin Onigashima - ???
Q09 - ???
Q10 - Tetris - Music A
Q11 - Tetris - Music B
Q12 - X - Tunnel Scene
Q13 - Wrecking Crew - ???
Q14 - Nazo no Murasamejou - ???

R: Misc. Series

R02 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Pictochat.mp3
R03 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Electroplankton
R04 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Flat Zone 2
R05 - Mario Tennis-Mario Golf - Medley
R06 - ???
R07 - ???
R08 - ???
R09 - 1080 Snowboarding - Golden Forest
R10 - Nintendo Wii - Mii Channel
R11 - Nintendo Wii - Shop Channel
R12 - Golden Sun - Battle
R13 - ???
R14 - Excite Truck - ???
R15 - Brain Age Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day - Medley
R16 - Wii Sports - Title
R17 - Wii Play - Cow Racing

S: Metal Gear Series

S02 - Metal Gear Solid - Encounter
S03 - Metal Gear - Theme of Tara
S04 - Yell ''Dead Cell'' [Original]
S05 - Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater - Snake Eater (Instrumental) [Original]
S06 - Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots - Theme of Love
S07 - Metal Gear Solid - Cavern
S08 - Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater - Battle in the Base [Original]
S10 - Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake - Opening
S11 - Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - Calling to the Night [Original]

T: Super Smash Bros. Past Series 1

T01 - Super Smash Bros. - Credits
T02 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Main Menu 1
T03 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Final Destination 2
T05 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Final Destination

U: Sonic the Hedgehog Series

U01 - Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone [Original]
U02 - Sonic the Hedgehog - Scrap Brain Zone [Original]
U03 - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - Emerald Hill Zone [Original]
U04 - Sonic 3 - Angel Island Zone
U06 - Sonic CD - Sonic Boom [Original]
U07 - Sonic R - Super Sonic Racing [Original]
U08 - Sonic Adventure - Open Your Heart [Original]
U09 - Sonic Adventure 2 - Live and Learn [Original]
U10 - Sonic Heroes - Sonic Heroes [Original]
U11 - Sonic Rush - Leaf Storm Zone ~Right There, Right On~ [Original]
U12 - SONIC the Hedgehog - His World (Instrumental) [Original]
U13 - Sonic and the Secret Rings - Seven Rings In Hand [Original]

W: Super Smash Bros. Melee Past Stages (For the most part, they have been
remastered, but not edited)

W01 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Peach's Castle [Original]
W02 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Rainbow Cruise [Original]
W03 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Jungle Japes [Original]
W04 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Brinstar Depths [Original]
W05 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Yoshi's Island
W06 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Fountain of Dreams
W07 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Green Greens [Original]
W08 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Corneria [Original]
W09 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Pokemon Stadium [Original]
W10 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Poke Floats [Original]
W11 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Big Blue [Original]
W12 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Onett [Original]
W13 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Icicle Mountain [Original]
W14 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Flat Zone [Original].mp3
W15 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Super Mario Bros. 3 [Original]
W16 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Pokemon Stadium 2 [Original]
W17 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Fire Emblem [Original]
W18 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Mach Rider [Original]
W19 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Other Side [Original]
W20 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Doctor Mario [Original]
W21 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Battlefield [Original]
W23 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Multi-Man Melee [Original]
W24 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Hyrule Temple [Original]
W25 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Final Destination [Original]
W26 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Kongo Jungle [Original]
W27 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Brinstar [Original]
W28 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Venom [Original]
W29 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Mute City [Original]
W30 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Menu [Original]
W31 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Vs. Giga Bowser [Original]

X: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Series

X01 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Main Theme
X02 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Main Menu
X03 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Menu 2
X04 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Athletic Main Theme
X05 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Final Destination
X06 - Cutscene
X07 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - WiFi Waiting Room-Main Theme Acoustic Guitar
Remix
X08 - Cutscene
X09 - Cutscene
X10 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Tournament Mode
X11 - Cutscene
X12 - Cutscene
X13 - Cutscene
X14 - Cutscene
X15 - Cutscene
X16 - Cutscene
X17 - Cutscene
X18 - Cutscene
X19 - Cutscene
X20 - Cutscene
X21 - Cutscene
X22 - Cutscene
X26 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Target Test
X27 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Credits (just a guess)

Y: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Unknown Tracks

Y01 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y02 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y03 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y04 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y05 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y06 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y07 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y08 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y09 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y10 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y11 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y12 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y13 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y14 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y15 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y16 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y17 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)

Z: Small Themes

Z01 - Mario Series Victory
Z02 - DK Series Victory
Z03 - Zelda Series Victory
Z04 - Samus Aran's Victory
Z05 - Yoshi's Victory
Z06 - Kirby Series Victory
Z07 - Star Fox Series Victory
Z08 - Pokemon Series Victory
Z10 - Captain Falcon's Victory (F-Zero GX Fanfare)
Z11 - Earthbound Series Victory
Z16 - Ice Climber's Victory
Z17 - Fire Emblem Victory
Z18 - Mr. Game & Watch's Victory
Z21 - Wario's Victory
Z22 - Meta-Knight's Victory
Z23 - Pit's Victory.mp3
Z25 - Captain Olimar's Victory
Z46 - Snake's Victory
Z47 - Sonic's Victory (SONIC the Hedgehog Stage Cleared)
Z50 - Continue
Z51 - Game Over
Z54 - Minor Item Unlocked
Z55 - Rare Item Unlocked
Z56 - Money Paid
Z57 - Secondary Item Unlocked
Z58 - Everything Unlocked

[obvious pun]

Hey! Why isn't my name on the list in the first post :smallmad: ? Have I not shown my dedication to this game? Don't answer that.

Oh well, here are my characters. What I consider Mastered is a character I've played a lot, and can beat a team of 3 lvl 9 computers with.

Mastered (in order from most used to least) : Link, Samus, Kirby, Mario, Marth, Luigi, maybe more, I'm just that good!

Will master once it's released in America (in order from most wanted to I want, but would still rather use the most wanted) : Pit, Meta Knight, Ike, Zero Suit Samus.

Now if you will excuse me, my cat is throwing up on the computer.

[Krytha]

Well the problem was it didn't do any damage. Lucario's does just that. I think.
I haven't seen that much of him to be honest. He's not Dedede, so I'm not keeping up with him as much.

I think what people saw was a bit of Lucario's wall cling. You can hang on to a sheer edge for a couple of seconds and then jump off with the control stick like a wall jump. So what I recall was -> UpB under the stage into a wall, accidentally stuck and then jumped back to the ledge or something like that.

[Fawsto]

Set me in. Soon I'll check my Friend Code and I shall post it here.

I've mastered Link and Ganondorf.

I will master Link again.

[Hermit]

Say, on a subject that doesn't involve me making edits,
Anyone else seen Lucario recovering? He seems to dash and stick to walls.
Looks a lot better than Mewtwo's Teleport at the least.

Was looking around for more info on this and according to this thread (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=140937) he does in fact wallcling.

Up B - Fast warp. Does no damage. Works kind of like Fox's Up+B in that he pauses for a moment (not as long as Fox) then goes in the direction you are pressing. However, he can also change his trajectory while traveling, making him move in an arc, which looks pretty neat. Also, unlike other Up+B's, he can Wall Cling if he hits a wall during it, which is good for extra recovery options.

The other really interesting tidbit was this:
First and foremost, Lucario has a special property no one else in Brawl has - the more damaged Lucario is, the more damage and knockback all his attacks do. It seems to max out at 200% damage. A move that normally did 15% damage did 26% damage when he was at 200%, and knocked the opponent back about twice as far as normal.

[Jibar]

Okay, of that huge list which we all have to thank name for finding, the ones that make me happiest are the Animal Crossing songs.
So much K.K Slider, so little time. Only so much room on playlists.
Geese, I never imagined there would be that much music. It's intense.
I challange anyone to find a game that will beat this one for Game of the Year/Millenium.

[The Linker]

I challange anyone to find a game that will beat this one for Game of the Millenium.

The NEXT Super Smash Bros.! :smallbiggrin:

Winna. :smalltongue:

[Doihaveaname?]

The NEXT Super Smash Bros.! :smallbiggrin:

Winna. :smalltongue:

OBJECTION!

It has yet to be announced. It may not actually happen. :smalltongue:

[The Linker]

OBJECTION!

...I don't actually have anything to say. I just wanted to yell that. >_>

Anyway, that is, quite frankly, an absolutely insane amount of songs. 300 is absolutely epic! It'll be great to have another thing to look forward to upon starting a game, I.E. what music will accompany our fight. I'm a little bit disappointed by the lack of F-Zero songs, though -- there was a multitude of awesome theme songs in F-Zero GX which would have been great. Captain Falcon's himself, or maybe Dr. Stewart (maybe; it doesn't seem right for a fighting game, admittedly) but if I got to choose just one, I'd pick THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdAexkWjnXw) one in a heartbeat. :smallbiggrin:

Once it builds up, I could totally imagine Fox battling Marth at super-speed to that tune. :smallcool:

Edit: While I'm picking songs that won't make it in, I pick this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpHLEm9-0bg) one too.

...what?

[tgva8889]

Well, maybe we could change Mastered into "I typically play as:" or something. And then "I plan on playing as:", since I'm not sure "mastered" is the correct word. I definitely have not mastered Marth to the degree that most other people have, and I definitely haven't gotten anywhere near close to being really good with Jigglypuff. No idea what my friend code is at this very moment, though.

Edit: I also planned to master Metaknight. Does anyone notice that I like characters with counter moves or protective down-Bs a lot? Except Jigglypuff, her I like because it's fun to kill people with her and it's fun to watch her fly away when she gets hit too hard. Maybe I'm weird like that.

And I saw Lucario wall-cling a few times. And as for that counter? I will master it's usage. You'll all see. Stupid long animation and short counter time...

Oh, and yeah, I'm here. You didn't link it to the other thread, so I went searching for it.

[Jibar]

Okay, ya know what. You all deserve this.
Not content with Sonic, huh? The Hedgehog not good enough.
Fine. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytIhZp8vxzU)
Yes it is terrible quality, but I thought I might as well confirm it anyway.

[Takara]

Sounds like this game could be fun as long as i get to play with Link! :smallamused:

[The Linker]

Man, what's with all the things that slow you down? :smalltongue: Luigi's FS, the stopwatch item, and now this! But I'm still glad to see Shadow. Admittedly, Chaos Control is the only thing he could be represented by.

[Rigel Cyrosea]

I'm looking forward to using Luigi's FS. Looks very fun.:smallamused:

Mastered: ... used to be fox, but I kind of gave up on him when Brawl started getting close. Too much practice required. As of now, I mostly use Luigi.
Plan on Mastering: Olimar, Luigi, and Pit.

[Mando Knight]

Here's the soundtrack, there's atleast 300 songs here, the "???" ones were unknown to the person who compiled the list:

A: Mario Series

A01 - Super Mario Bros. - Overworld
A02 - Super Mario Bros. - Underground
A03 - Super Mario Bros. - Underwater
A04 - Super Mario Land - Easton Kingdom
A05 - Super Mario Bros. 3 - Airship Fortress
A06 - Super Mario World-Super Mario Bros. 3 - Castle-Vs. Boom Boom
A07 - Super Mario World - Title/Ending
A08 - New Super Mario Bros. - Overworld
A09 - Luigi's Mansion - Main Theme
A10 - Mario & Luigi Partners in Time - Gritzy Desert
A13 - Super Mario Sunshine - Isle Delfino [Original]
A14 - Super Mario Sunshine - Ricco Harbour [Original]
A15 - Super Mario 64 - Overworld [Original]
A16 - Super Mario Bros. - Medley
A17 - Mario Bros. - Medley
A20 - Super Mario Kart - Mario Circuit
A21 - Mario Kart 64 - Circuit
A22 - Mario Kart DS - Waluigi Pinball
A23 - Mario Kart Double Dash - Rainbow Road [Original]

B: DK Series

B01 - Donkey Kong Country - Jungle Japes
B02 - Donkey Kong Country - DK Island Swing-Bonus Room Blitz [Original]
B03 - Donkey Kong - Medley
B04 - Donkey Kong - Medley 2
B05 - Donkey Kong Country - Vs. King K. Rool-Ship Deck 2
B06 - Donkey Kong Country 2 Diddy Kong's Quest - Stickerbrush Symphony (Bramble
Blast)
B07 - Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - Battle for Storm Hill [Original]
B08 - Donkey Kong Country - Jungle Groove 2
B09 - Donkey Kong - Level 1
B10 - Donkey Kong Barrel Blast - Jungle

C: The Legend of Zelda Series

C01 - The Legend of Zelda - Title-Dungeon
C02 - The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past - Overworld
C03 - The Legend of Zelda II Link's Awakening - Great Temple-Temple
C04 - The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past - Dark World
C05 - The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past - Dark World Woods
C07 - The Legend of Zelda - Overworld
C08 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Hyrule Field
C09 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Ocarina of Time Medley
C10 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Windmill Hut-Ganondorf's Theme
C11 - The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker - Molgera [Original]
C12 - The Legend of Zelda Four Swords - Minigame
C13 - The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - Gerudo Valley [Original]
C14 - The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask - Termina Field [Original]
C15 - The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker- Dragon Roost Island [Original]
C16 - The Legend of Zelda The Wind Waker - Ocean [Original]
C17 - The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess - Hyrule Field [Original]
C18 - The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess - Hidden Village [Original]
C19 - The Legend of Zelda The Twilight Princess - Midna's Desperation

D: Metroid Series

D01 - Metroid - Brinstar
D02 - Metroid - Norfair
D03 - Metroid - Credits
D04 - Super Metroid - Vs. Ridley
D05 - Super Metroid - Credits
D06 - Metroid Fusion - Sector 1
D07 - Metroid Prime - Title-Credits
D08 - Metroid Prime - Vs. Parasite Queen [Original]
D09 - Metroid Prime - Vs. Meta-Ridley [Original]
D10 - Metroid Prime 2 Echoes - Hunters [Original]

E: Yoshi Series

E01 - Yoshi's Story - Yoshi's Ending
E02 - Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island - Athletic-Baby Bowser Introduction
E03 - Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island - Makin' Eggs, Throwin' Eggs
E05 - ???
E06 - ??? - Yoshi's Island DS
E07 - Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island - Athletic

F: Kirby Series

F01 - Kirby Air Ride - Legendary Air Ride Machine
F02 - Kirby Super Star - Vs. King Dedede
F03 - Kirby - Boss Medley
F04 - Kirby's Adventure - Butter Building
F05 - Kirby Super Star - Gourment Race
F06 - Kirby's Super Star - Meta-Knight's Revenge
F07 - Kirby Super Star - Vs. Marx
F08 - Kirby 64 - Zero Two
F09 - Kirby & The Amazing Mirror - Nature Area [Original]
F10 - Kirby Air Ride - Checker Knights [Original]
F11 - Kirby Air Ride - Frozen Hillside [Original]
F12 - Kirby Squeak Squad - Squeak Battle

G: Star Fox Series

G01 - Main Theme - Star Fox
G02 - Star Fox - Corneria
G03 - Star Fox - Medley? Main Theme?
G04 - Star Fox 64 - Area 6
G05 - Star Fox 64 - Star Wolf
G07 - Star Fox Assault - ??? [Original]
G08 - Star Fox Assault - ??? [Original]
G09 - Star Fox Assault - Star Wolf [Original]
G10 - Star Fox - Space Armada
G11 - ???

H: Pokemon Series

H01 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Main Theme
H02 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Pokemon Center
H03 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Pokemon Route 01-Pallet Town
H04 - Pokemon Blue-Red - Title-Evolving Theme
H05 - Pokemon Ruby-Sapphire - Wild Pokemon Battle
H06 - Pokemon Ruby-Sapphire - Champion Road
H07 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Wild Pokemon Battle
H08 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Dialga-Palkia Battle
H09 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Team Galaxy Battle
H10 - Pokemon Diamond-Pearl - Route 209

I: F-Zero Series

I01 - F-Zero - Mute City
I02 - F-Zero - White Land
I03 - F-Zero - Fire Field
I04 - F-Zero X - Main Menu [Original]
I05 - F-Zero X - Silence ~Dream Chaser~ [Original]
I06 - F-Zero X - Devil's Forest ~Devil's Call In Your Heart~ [Original]
I07 - F-Zero X - White Land ~Climb Up And Get The Last Chance~ [Original]
I08 - F-Zero GX - Replay ~Brain Cleaner~ [Original]
I09 - F-Zero GX - Vegas Palace ~Shotgun Kiss~ [Original]
I10 - F-Zero GX - Green Plant ~Planet Colors~ [Original]

J: Fire Emblem Series

J02 - Fire Emblem - Main Theme
J03 - Fire Emblem Gaiden - With Mila's Divine Protection (Celica Map 1)
J04 - ???
J06 - Fire Emblem Blazing Sword - Preparing to Advance
J07 - Fire Emblem Blazing Sword - Winning Road
J08 - Fire Emblem Blazing Sword - Strike
J09 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Vs. Black Knight [Original]
J10 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Crimea Attacks [Original]
J11 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Power-Hungry Fool [Original]
J12 - Fire Emblem Path Of Radiance - Victory Is Near [Original]
J13 - Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn - ??? [Original]

K: Earthbound Series

K01 - Mother - ???
K05 - Mother - Humoresque of a Little Dog
K07 - Mother 3 - Porky's Theme
K08 - ???
K09 - Mother 3 - Unfounded Revenge-Smashing Song of Praise

L: Pikmin Series

L01 - Pikmin 2 - Main Theme
L02 - Pikmin - Forest of Hope [Original]
L03 - Pikmin - Environmental Sounds
L04 - Pikmin - Ai no Uta-Song of Love-Credits
L05 - Pikmin 2 - Tane no Uta
L06 - Pikmin - Main Theme [Original]
L07 - Pikmin - Stage Cleared-Title Screen [Original]
L08 - Pikmin - Ai no Uta (French)-Song of Love-Credits [Original]

M: WarioWare Series

M01 - WarioWare, Inc. - Main Theme
M02 - WarioWare, Inc. - Medley
M03 - WarioWare Twisted! - Mona Pizza (Japanese)
M04 - WarioWare Twisted! - Mona Pizza (English)
M05 - Wario Ware Touched! - I Love Mic (Japanese)
M06 - Wario Ware Touched! - I Love Mic (English)
M07 - WarioWare Touched! - Ashley's Song (Japanese)
M08 - WarioWare Touched! - Ashley's Song (English)
M09 - ???
M10 - ???
M11 - ???
M12 - ???
M13 - ???
M14 - ???
M15 - ???
M16 - ???
M17 - WarioWare, Inc. - The Maze That Pays [Original]
M18 - ???

N: Animal Crossing Series

N01 - Animal Crossing Wild World - Title
N02 - Animal Crossing - Go K.K. Rider!
N03 - ???
N05 - Animal Crossing Wild World - The Roost
N06 - Animal Crossing Wild World - Town Hall-Nook's Store
N07 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Cruisin' [Original]
N08 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Western [Original]
N09 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Gumbo [Original]
N10 - Animal Crossing - Rockin' K.K. [Original]
N11 - Animal Crossing - DJ K.K. [Original]
N12 - Animal Crossing - K.K. Condor [Original]

P: Kid Icarus

P01 - Kid Icarus - Underworld.mp3
P02 - Kid Icarus - Title
P03 - Kid Icarus - Overworld.mp3
P04 - Kid Icarus - NES Medley

Q: NES Series

Q01 - NES Medley
Q02 - ???
Q04 - Dr. Mario - Chill
Q05 - Clu Clu Land - Medley
Q06 - Balloon Fight - Balloon Flight
Q07 - Ice Climber - Main Theme
Q08 - Shin Onigashima - ???
Q09 - ???
Q10 - Tetris - Music A
Q11 - Tetris - Music B
Q12 - X - Tunnel Scene
Q13 - Wrecking Crew - ???
Q14 - Nazo no Murasamejou - ???

R: Misc. Series

R02 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Pictochat.mp3
R03 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Electroplankton
R04 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Flat Zone 2
R05 - Mario Tennis-Mario Golf - Medley
R06 - ???
R07 - ???
R08 - ???
R09 - 1080 Snowboarding - Golden Forest
R10 - Nintendo Wii - Mii Channel
R11 - Nintendo Wii - Shop Channel
R12 - Golden Sun - Battle
R13 - ???
R14 - Excite Truck - ???
R15 - Brain Age Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day - Medley
R16 - Wii Sports - Title
R17 - Wii Play - Cow Racing

S: Metal Gear Series

S02 - Metal Gear Solid - Encounter
S03 - Metal Gear - Theme of Tara
S04 - Yell ''Dead Cell'' [Original]
S05 - Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater - Snake Eater (Instrumental) [Original]
S06 - Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots - Theme of Love
S07 - Metal Gear Solid - Cavern
S08 - Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater - Battle in the Base [Original]
S10 - Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake - Opening
S11 - Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - Calling to the Night [Original]

T: Super Smash Bros. Past Series 1

T01 - Super Smash Bros. - Credits
T02 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Main Menu 1
T03 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Final Destination 2
T05 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Final Destination

U: Sonic the Hedgehog Series

U01 - Sonic the Hedgehog - Green Hill Zone [Original]
U02 - Sonic the Hedgehog - Scrap Brain Zone [Original]
U03 - Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - Emerald Hill Zone [Original]
U04 - Sonic 3 - Angel Island Zone
U06 - Sonic CD - Sonic Boom [Original]
U07 - Sonic R - Super Sonic Racing [Original]
U08 - Sonic Adventure - Open Your Heart [Original]
U09 - Sonic Adventure 2 - Live and Learn [Original]
U10 - Sonic Heroes - Sonic Heroes [Original]
U11 - Sonic Rush - Leaf Storm Zone ~Right There, Right On~ [Original]
U12 - SONIC the Hedgehog - His World (Instrumental) [Original]
U13 - Sonic and the Secret Rings - Seven Rings In Hand [Original]

W: Super Smash Bros. Melee Past Stages (For the most part, they have been
remastered, but not edited)

W01 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Peach's Castle [Original]
W02 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Rainbow Cruise [Original]
W03 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Jungle Japes [Original]
W04 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Brinstar Depths [Original]
W05 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Yoshi's Island
W06 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Fountain of Dreams
W07 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Green Greens [Original]
W08 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Corneria [Original]
W09 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Pokemon Stadium [Original]
W10 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Poke Floats [Original]
W11 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Big Blue [Original]
W12 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Onett [Original]
W13 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Icicle Mountain [Original]
W14 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Flat Zone [Original].mp3
W15 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Super Mario Bros. 3 [Original]
W16 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Pokemon Stadium 2 [Original]
W17 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Fire Emblem [Original]
W18 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Mach Rider [Original]
W19 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Other Side [Original]
W20 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Doctor Mario [Original]
W21 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Battlefield [Original]
W23 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Multi-Man Melee [Original]
W24 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Hyrule Temple [Original]
W25 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Final Destination [Original]
W26 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Kongo Jungle [Original]
W27 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Brinstar [Original]
W28 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Venom [Original]
W29 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Mute City [Original]
W30 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Menu [Original]
W31 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Vs. Giga Bowser [Original]

X: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Series

X01 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Main Theme
X02 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Main Menu
X03 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Menu 2
X04 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Athletic Main Theme
X05 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Final Destination
X06 - Cutscene
X07 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - WiFi Waiting Room-Main Theme Acoustic Guitar
Remix
X08 - Cutscene
X09 - Cutscene
X10 - Super Smash Bros. Melee - Tournament Mode
X11 - Cutscene
X12 - Cutscene
X13 - Cutscene
X14 - Cutscene
X15 - Cutscene
X16 - Cutscene
X17 - Cutscene
X18 - Cutscene
X19 - Cutscene
X20 - Cutscene
X21 - Cutscene
X22 - Cutscene
X26 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Target Test
X27 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Credits (just a guess)

Y: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Unknown Tracks

Y01 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y02 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y03 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y04 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y05 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y06 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y07 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y08 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y09 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y10 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y11 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y12 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y13 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y14 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y15 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y16 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)
Y17 - Unknown (possibly cutscene)

Z: Small Themes

Z01 - Mario Series Victory
Z02 - DK Series Victory
Z03 - Zelda Series Victory
Z04 - Samus Aran's Victory
Z05 - Yoshi's Victory
Z06 - Kirby Series Victory
Z07 - Star Fox Series Victory
Z08 - Pokemon Series Victory
Z10 - Captain Falcon's Victory (F-Zero GX Fanfare)
Z11 - Earthbound Series Victory
Z16 - Ice Climber's Victory
Z17 - Fire Emblem Victory
Z18 - Mr. Game & Watch's Victory
Z21 - Wario's Victory
Z22 - Meta-Knight's Victory
Z23 - Pit's Victory.mp3
Z25 - Captain Olimar's Victory
Z46 - Snake's Victory
Z47 - Sonic's Victory (SONIC the Hedgehog Stage Cleared)
Z50 - Continue
Z51 - Game Over
Z54 - Minor Item Unlocked
Z55 - Rare Item Unlocked
Z56 - Money Paid
Z57 - Secondary Item Unlocked
Z58 - Everything Unlocked

Alright, even half-way through that list I'm totally psyched for this.

Friend Code:
Mastered: Marth, Samus, Falco, Fox (Starfox team is more of mastered-ish)
Mastering: Pikachu, PKMN Trainer, Metaknight, Pit, Ike, Lucario, Sonic

EDIT: I forgot to add Sonic to the list of characters I wanna master. This has been fixed.

[Cynan Machae]

That soundtrack is just amazing :smallbiggrin:

And...

Mastered: Marth, Falco, Samus and Peach
Mastering: Zero Suit Samus, MetaKnight, Marth

[Shraik]

For those who have played Brawl, are there clone Characters like last time, where two characters had the same exact set of moves that just looked different(and maybe one or two moves where different)?

[tgva8889]

I think there still are. Haven't played it yet, though (I don't think anyone here has played it yet...right?).

And I just thought of this: Does anyone want to see the N64 stages return? I'd like to see Hyrule Castle and Green Greens again, just so I can battle to that classic Kirby music. Na, na, na na na...

Edit:

Mastered: Jigglypuff, Marth
Mastering: Metaknight (because I have always thought he was awesome), Pit (because of nostalgia value), Lucario (because he looks like the Mewtwo replacement)

Wow, do you and I just randomly happen to like almost the exact same characters? I was interested in playing Pit, too, since he looked awesome, but I figured I should probably try something new w/ Pokemon Trainer.

[Rogue 7]

Mastered: Pikachu, Marth.

Planning on Mastering: Pokemon Trainer, Sonic, Toon Link. Will dabble with other characters.

[Pagz]

Interesting! SSBB looks like its going to be ever so fun, I'm going to have to chip my Wii so I can get a version shipped from the USA!

Mastered: Ness (on the original SSB, I've never really played SSBM)!
Mastering: Ness, Pokemon Trainer, King Dedede.

Although, we all know everyone will try out every character, these are just my predictions on who I'll use from what I've seen.

[Drascin]

Wow, do you and I just randomly happen to like almost the exact same characters? I was interested in playing Pit, too, since he looked awesome, but I figured I should probably try something new w/ Pokemon Trainer.

So it seems :smallbiggrin: .

Basically, I started training Jiggs in SSB for the "I just beat you with a sucky character" factor, and ended up liking her. So, when she was buffed in melee, I basically mained her, under much laughing of my friends.

Now, everytime Jiggs comes up in random, said friends just concede the match :smallamused:. And I fully intend to continue that trend.

As for Marth... well, he's fast, and has a sword, which were two huge plusses in my book (and, incidentally, are the main reasons I'm sure I'll be able to pwn with Meta and Pit, since both fit the same description).

But anyway, I should start practicing again a bit of melee if I want to be in shape when Brawl comes out... all that playing non-smash bros fighting games is going to put a damper into my instinctive reactions, given Smash Bros basically requires a completely different mentality than every other fighting game in the market.

[radikalskippy]

Count me in!!

Mastered: Yoshi
Planning to master: Wario.

[tyckspoon]

For those who have played Brawl, are there clone Characters like last time, where two characters had the same exact set of moves that just looked different(and maybe one or two moves where different)?

Ganon is, disappointingly, still mostly a clone of Capt. Falcon. Some of his animations are different, but so far he doesn't appear much changed from Melee. The Star Fox animals have been altered some; Fox and Falco are still on the same basic template, but the differences have been exaggerated. Wolf is absolutely not a clone. His A-attacks don't use FoxFu, his Reflector is different (so is Falco's, incidentally), I'm pretty sure his up-B isn't even FireWolf. It's been mentioned, but Toon Link seems to be largely a reskinned Young Link. Luigi is still Luigi to Mario; oddly, he seems to have kept the down-B Tornado move where Mario got FLUDD. Ike and Marth are not clones of each other, if anybody still wants to maintain that. The similarities between them are that they both use swords, they come from Fire Emblem, and they have blue hair.

[pyrefiend]

And I just thought of this: Does anyone want to see the N64 stages return? I'd like to see Hyrule Castle and Green Greens again, just so I can battle to that classic Kirby music. Na, na, na na na...

Oh, you can, and it's about a million times cooler: Awesome Kirby Fight Music!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI0g8MESbTA)

Oh, and:

Mastered*:Marth, Dr.Mario
Planning to Master:Olimar, Sonic


*sorta

[Brennus]

Mastered: Everyone
Mastering: Everyone

Seriously. I do have a few best characters, but I've become proficient with everyone in melee and plan to do the same in brawl. My friends don't try and outlaw me from using my best characters because even with my worst I still crush them.

[ronnyfire]

Mastered: Fox, Young Link and Samus.

Mastering: Meta Knight!, probably Captain olimar.

[Geno9999]

Mastered: Marth, Samus, Falco, Fox (Starfox team is more of mastered-ish)
Mastering: Pikachu, PKMN Trainer, Metaknight, Pit, Ike, Lucario, Sonic


I knew that I was missing someone. Add Sonic to my list of Mastering, also Meta Knight. ROB might be the kind of character that I might like, aka; you lost to a n00b character.:smallbiggrin:

[Darth Mario]

Mastered: Link, Samus, Marth, Mr. G&W.
Mastering: Sonic, Snake, ROB (for the same reason I mastered G&W).

Though mastered really isn't the term for my skill level. "Less sucky at" would be more accurate.

[tgva8889]

Oh, you can, and it's about a million times cooler: Awesome Kirby Fight Music!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI0g8MESbTA)

I guess. I'm not a huge fan of this arrangement. I actually perfer the Fountain of Dreams arrangement for this theme. It was definitely more epic.

And the "mastered" list isn't intended to be the "who am I best at" list, more the "expect me to play these characters" list.

[Mando Knight]

I guess. I'm not a huge fan of this arrangement. I actually perfer the Fountain of Dreams arrangement for this theme. It was definitely more epic.

And the "mastered" list isn't intended to be the "who am I best at" list, more the "expect me to play these characters" list.

I actually prefer Dreamland 64's music... and that level is great for one-on-one matches.

Once I get Brawl and unlock ROB, guess who's getting a beating for being in instead of a better Mewtwo :smallannoyed:. I am NOT AMUSED. It'll be an all-out killspree, first Marth, then Lucario, then PKMN Trainer, then Sonic, then Ike...

Also, add Link to my Mastered list. I'll still have to work on him, as Marth is my only Master o' Melee character, but by the time Brawl arrives stateside, my Link-fu will be strong.

[Dumbledore lives]

Mastered: Link, Ganandorf, Marth
Mastering: Olimar, Lucario

[Icewalker]

Character existence spoilers in following post.



I look forward to playing Lucario. Also, the Starfox characters (Although I can't believe they all have the same FS...I can think of better ones off the top of my head.)

[tgva8889]

I actually prefer Dreamland 64's music... and that level is great for one-on-one matches.

I hum that theme all the time. Seriously. It's classic, like the Imperial March. No matter how many takes there are on that theme, the original is always the best. I meant that I liked the Fountain of Dreams orchestrated version to the Gourmet Race Metal version.

And it is great for 1 v. 1. I've played many a match on it, since it's one of the like 8 stages on my Random Select.

[obvious pun]

My favorite kirby music would have to be the Meta Knights revenge theme. It makes want Kirby superstar for the virtual console. Why don't they have it?!? [/going insane]

And my second favorite kirby theme is the Vs. King Dedede theme. But, for non kirby music, my favorite is Ashley's theme (Japanese version). Lemme see, link, link, link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4xzU1vgh8c

It's just so great!

[Doihaveaname?]

Well I have the entire soundtrack. :smallamused:

Ever wonder what Isaac looks like in 3D? Wonder no more!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Cymru_Lad/isaac.jpg

[Drascin]

Yah, I am downloading the torrent of the soundtrack even as we speak. 300+ tracks man. 300! If they release the OST, they're going to have to publish it in DVDs! :smallbiggrin:

Anyway, anyone who wants that same torrent, just go here (http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=141013).

[Geno9999]

I kinda prefer this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebbdiX3XiE) for kirby. (Falcon... PUNCH!)
I think I might use Kirby a bit more. The thought of a ROB Kirby just crossed my mind, I MUST SEE IT!!!!

[Dragor]

Oh, I didn't realize 'Mastering' was for characters you were going to master when you get the game.

In that case, add 'Pit' to my 'Mastering' list.

[The Linker]

So, the new F-Zero stage is pretty much just like the Mute City stage in Melee. However, I've actually raced on this map (Aero Dive), so that's a plus for me. :smalltongue:

[Raroy]

Mastered: Swordsmen
Mastering: Swordsmen

Anyone with a sword is good for me.

[Hermit]

Well, for us in Europe I potentially have some good news on the release date. Owing to my now daily trawls of the interweb in the hope that some information will surface, I came across the following link:
gametrailers forum post (http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=297171)

Put simple a German emailed Nintendo of Europe to ask why Brawl had no set release date, and got a reply, which roughly translated reads as follows:

the localisations for Europe, because of the different translations take a bit longer then for the USA. As things stand now, you can expect it to come out around end of March/ early April. This will be made public on our homepage (www.nintendo.de) and the microsite for SSBB (www.smashbros.com).

That, at least supposedly, is from a Nintendo employee. I'm thinking I'll email them myself, see if I get any sort of response of a similar nature, and of course this employee could be wrong or it could all be a hoax. Still, it gives some glimmer of hope that we might not be sat waiting for months.

[pyrefiend]

I guess. I'm not a huge fan of this arrangement. I actually perfer the Fountain of Dreams arrangement for this theme. It was definitely more epic.

And the "mastered" list isn't intended to be the "who am I best at" list, more the "expect me to play these characters" list.
To each his own:smalltongue:
In any case, the original version is still in the game.

[The Linker]

Look! Tails! Knuckles! And that other hedgehog with psychic powers whose name starts with an 'S'! In the background of the Sonic stage!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30237.html

They appear pretty often, too. I don't know why it's so interesting to me. :smalltongue:

I don't recognize that music...sounds a bit Sonic-y, though. From an older game I've never played?

[pyrefiend]

Well it does confirm that knuckles and tails aren't assist trophies... although actually the full assist trophy roster was confirmed a while ago.

[Kriel]

Well, Ness was my best in Melee, so when Brawl comes stateside I'm hoping I can continue the proud tradition of blowing enemies up using only my mind.

[Shraik]

Well, Ness was my best in Melee, so when Brawl comes stateside I'm hoping I can continue the proud tradition of blowing enemies up using only my mind.

You mean you can't do that normally? I thought everyone could

I hope to master Olimar & Pikmin. I thought Pikmin was a great game

[Mrmud]

Get me down too.

Mastered: Sheik, Fox, and Marth. Maybe even Mario, but don't play him seriously anymore.

Mastering: Metaknight, Snake, Pit, maybe Olimar and Sonic, and hopefully not sheik again :smalleek:.

Friend Code-wise, I'll have to get back to you. :smallfrown:

[Leper_Kahn]

I think I'm gonna get it as well.

Mastered: Nothing

Mastering: I have no idea. :smallbiggrin:

No idea about my friend code either!

[obvious pun]

Ever wonder what Isaac looks like in 3D? Wonder no more!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/Cymru_Lad/isaac.jpg

Why, oh why, could Issac not be a playable character. Oh, how much fun using Meggido would have been on toon link for being just another clone. But alas, merely an assist trophy... merely... an assist trophy... *Dramatic wind sound effect here*

Well it does confirm that knuckles and tails aren't assist trophies... although actually the full assist trophy roster was confirmed a while ago.

What, full assist trophy roster confirmed? Where? Why have none of us been informed?[/wants to know if there's a phoenix wright assist trophy]

[Dumbledore lives]

I've actually not seen many assist trophies, I'm wondering if someone could find a video of that.

Heres one about 2 minutes in it has about 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JeM1HcIQ3k

There are not that many, At least it's difficult to find many.

[Aereshaa_the_2nd]

Yeah, I play Melee a lot. A LOT. :smallbiggrin: I checked, and apparently my Wii console's MAC address is 00-1b-ea-e8-fc-7a .
I'm best as Zelda and Marth, there fore I will be good as Ike.

[Doihaveaname?]

Why, oh why, could Issac not be a playable character. Oh, how much fun using Meggido would have been on toon link for being just another clone. But alas, merely an assist trophy... merely... an assist trophy... *Dramatic wind sound effect here*



What, full assist trophy roster confirmed? Where? Why have none of us been informed?[/wants to know if there's a phoenix wright assist trophy]

There isn't. It's also not particularly impressive, there's only 27.

[Jibar]

Thought I'd mention that Gametrailers has started releasing actual gameplay and cutscenes from Subspace if you're interested. It's also been confirmed that yes, Capt. Falcon is introduced with a Falcon Punch.
I'm also going to do one big update on the players list tomorrow.
Oh, and Doihaveaname, I'm working my way towards that full soundtrack. My computer sucks for downloading big files, so I'm getting a friend to do it.

[The Linker]

I'm using all my willpower to avoid watching those movies. I'm gonna experience those clips firsthand, dangit! :smalltongue:

[obvious pun]

I'm using all my willpower to avoid watching those movies. I'm gonna experience those clips firsthand, dangit! :smalltongue:

Alas, we are not all as strong in will as thou. I don't know if I can hold on much longer *cough* *wheeze* I... mustn't... watch... *weak cough* if I don't wait to experience it myself, my Wii will be left with nothing... if I don't make it to the release date... tell my video game systems... I... I... Urk! *collapses in need of brawl* I must wait... I must...

...Is what I'd like to say, but I've already started watching. There's still time for me to escape, since I'm only on the first video, but I fear I shall be lost to the darkness known only by the name of... Youtube: Master of intraweb movies and leet speakers. Now if you'll excuse me, I have Sub Space Emissaries to watch.

[Pteraden]

Alright, I've been lurking long enough on the old Super Smash Bros thread. Lessee here..

Friend Code: I'll get back to you on that.
Mastered: Captain Falcon & (to a lesser extent) Pikachu
Mastering: ROB definitely, Lucas looks interesting, too.

Also..
DO NOT SPOIL SUBSPACE EMMISSARY Snape kills Dumbledore. :smallwink:

[Magic Mage]

Ah, yes I can't wait for this. Luckily, I can't watch the movies for Brawl so no temptation here.

Mastered: Marth, Link, Roy
Mastering: Pit, Meta-Knight
Plan to get good with: Pokemon Trainer, Capt. Olimar, meh everyone.
:biggrin:

[radikalskippy]

Also..
Snape kills Dumbledore. :smallwink:

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/spoiler_alert.png

[Dumbledore lives]

Well, they confirmed all assist trophies on Dojo for whoever was asking. No really interesting ones, though from some vidoes I've seen Jeff seems to be really effective.

[Brennus]

All the assist trophies that were already common knowledge. woooooooooo.

[Doihaveaname?]

Well, they confirmed all assist trophies on Dojo for whoever was asking. No really interesting ones, though from some vidoes I've seen Jeff seems to be really effective.

Not all of them. There's still the following:

Barbara the Bat
Infantry
Isaac
K.K. Slider
Ray MK II
Shadow the Hedgehog

[The Linker]

K.K. Slider? He's already in the background of the Animal Crossing stage (sometimes.) What does he do?

[Doihaveaname?]

K.K. Slider? He's already in the background of the Animal Crossing stage (sometimes.) What does he do?

I have no idea. He's in the game code as an assist trophy.

[Jibar]

That would probably be his 8:00pm performance.
I doubt he's actually an assist trophy.

[Hermit]

Not all of them. There's still the following:

Barbara the Bat
Infantry
Isaac
K.K. Slider
Ray MK II
Shadow the Hedgehog


I reckon these'll be another update in a week or two. 27 doesn't seem like a lot though, anyone know how many pokemon you can get from Pokeballs? I was expecting around 50 for each, but presumably it's a lot less than this then.

[Doihaveaname?]

I reckon these'll be another update in a week or two. 27 doesn't seem like a lot though, anyone know how many pokemon you can get from Pokeballs? I was expecting around 50 for each, but presumably it's a lot less than this then.

There are 44 pokemon:


Bellossom
Bonsly
Castform
Celebi
Chansey
Cherrim
Chikorita
Darkrai
Deoxys
Eevee
Electrode
Entei
Espeon
Flareon
Garchomp
Gardevoir
Glaceon
Goldeen
Groudon
Gulpin
Ho-oh
Jirachi
Jolteon
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Leafeon
Lugia
Manaphy
Meowth
Metagross
Mew
Munchlax
Piplup
Snorlax
Staryu
Suicune
Togepi
Torchic
Umbreon
Vaporeon
Weavile
Wobbuffet

[Hermit]

There are 44 pokemon:


Bellossom
Bonsly
Castform
Celebi
Chansey
Cherrim
Chikorita
Darkrai
Deoxys
Eevee
Electrode
Entei
Espeon
Flareon
Garchomp
Gardevoir
Glaceon
Goldeen
Groudon
Gulpin
Ho-oh
Jirachi
Jolteon
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Leafeon
Lugia
Manaphy
Meowth
Metagross
Mew
Munchlax
Piplup
Snorlax
Staryu
Suicune
Togepi
Torchic
Umbreon
Vaporeon
Weavile
Wobbuffet


Ah, I was fairly close then. I was kind of expecting at least one assist trophy per Pokemon though. I wonder if that was a feature that came in later in development or something, since it seems like a brilliant way to recognise some of the less well known Nintendo games.

[Jibar]

Hey, so it turns out you can swim now.
If you fall into the water on Toon Link's level, you can swim back onto the boat.
I'm guessing you can do the same thing on The Summit, explaining the need for the fish.

[Hermit]

Well, here's something rather interesting. Be warned though, spoilers obviously abound:
Files in the Brawl Disc (http://www.destructoid.com/rumortoid-a-full-list-of-the-files-found-on-smash-bros-brawl-disk-update--68272.phtml)

[obvious pun]

Hey people, remember when I said on page 2 that my favorite theme was Ashley's theme? Forget what I said, for I have found...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL-fgCuKqx4

Hopefully Issac will be playable in the next smash bros.

Edit: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/spoiler_alert.png

And then it turns out they're both Tyler Durden.

[The Linker]

Hey, so it turns out you can swim now.
If you fall into the water on Toon Link's level, you can swim back onto the boat.
I'm guessing you can do the same thing on The Summit, explaining the need for the fish.

Yeah, I heard about that back when the demo was first realeased at E3. I think it was E3. Mighta been some other conference. ANYway...

There are quite a few places to do it in the Isle Delfino level, which SHOULD be no surprise to anyone. :smalltongue: Can't think of any other water stages...

[Ronsian]

I heard about the swimming thing awhile ago, didn't really understand how it worked. One of the challenges on the Dojo page for it was to swim 500 meters, so I just thought there would be some stages for it.

[Mojotech]

Snape kills Dumbledore. :smallwink:

I just recieved the entire Harry Potter books as a gift from a friend and just finished book 4. Words cannot express how much you just ruined the whole thing for me. Thanks a ton. :smallfrown:

Well, words CAN express, but doing so would get me banned most likely. :smallfurious:

[Cynan Machae]

I'm using all my willpower to avoid watching those movies. I'm gonna experience those clips firsthand, dangit! :smalltongue:
I'm doing the same :P

I don't mind spoiling all the roster/stages/music, but Subspace Emissary must remain a first play expreience. It'S going to be awesome :smallbiggrin:

[Dumbledore lives]

I was looking on Game FAQs and you need to do a lot less vs. matches than before. It was about 1000 for Game and Watch before wasn't it? Now to get Wolf you only need to do 450 matches which I think is a wonderful addition. It is beyond annoying to get Mewtwo in Melee because my Wii shuts off after about 1-2 hours so I can't just leave it on for 20 hours. Also 700 matches is a lot and takes a long time to do no matter what.:smallsigh: I think I may get all, or almost all through the vs. mode.

[Pagz]

FALCON PUNCH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw&eurl=http://syndicated.livejournal.com/vgc/29311.html)

After watching that, I now have that tingly feeling that I want to play as him.

SOLELY BECAUSE OF THAT CLIP

[tgva8889]

The only Subspace spoilers I've seen are the Nintendo videos about it and the one 14 minute playthrough the level where you use Marth, the character the Dojo previewed today. It's nice to see him again, though saddening that his combo got a little bit nerfed. It does, however, look really cool.

Looks to be good, Subspace Emissary does.

[Icewalker]

I love his final smash. Good times.

Although, as described in a comment I saw on Youtube, "Hey, Marth's final smash is the same as his attacks in melee: he hits them and they die!"

Stupid Marth. My brother was too good with him. :smallamused:

[Hermit]

I was looking on Game FAQs and you need to do a lot less vs. matches than before. It was about 1000 for Game and Watch before wasn't it? Now to get Wolf you only need to do 450 matches which I think is a wonderful addition. It is beyond annoying to get Mewtwo in Melee because my Wii shuts off after about 1-2 hours so I can't just leave it on for 20 hours. Also 700 matches is a lot and takes a long time to do no matter what.:smallsigh: I think I may get all, or almost all through the vs. mode.

Your wii shouldn't shut off, try changing the options. Also, the 20 hours playtime is devided by the number of human players, so plug in 4 GC controllers and set up a stock match, and it'll only take 5 hours :P Remember to actually win the match rather than quit though.

[Pteraden]

I just recieved the entire Harry Potter books as a gift from a friend and just finished book 4. Words cannot express how much you just ruined the whole thing for me. Thanks a ton. :smallfrown:

Well, words CAN express, but doing so would get me banned most likely. :smallfurious:

Gee, uh, sorry 'bout that.Part of me, however feels that the Three-Month (Or was that Six-Month?) Spoiler rule applies here. I believe it states that if you have not seem something for three months (Or was that six months?) then you have no right to complain about spoilers.

The other part of me is extremely sorry for this incident and wishes to apologize for what it has done.

[Mando Knight]

What if...
Mewtwo is an unlockable skin for Lucario... and other special skins are unlockable as well, so that we end up with more characters like Wario, who has two different main costumes...

[radikalskippy]

Time to face it... No Mewtwo in Brawl!!!

[Doihaveaname?]

Time to face it... No Mewtwo in Brawl!!!

Indeed. If there was another costume for Mewtwo, people would complain about him saying "Lucario" all the time.

[Jibar]

FALCON PUNCH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw&eurl=http://syndicated.livejournal.com/vgc/29311.html)

After watching that, I now have that tingly feeling that I want to play as him.

SOLELY BECAUSE OF THAT CLIP

You have no idea how many times I have watched that clip.
Also... Marth. Woo.
I'm not much of a fan of the swordsman as they go. I prefer Link and from the looks of things Ike.
I would like to see Captain Falcon announced officially.
Or Jigglypuff actually, just because I have no idea what its final smash actually does.

[Wolfie_1066]

i really did'nt have melee and its still shady if im even getting a wii but i play at my friends even if i dont have it i know he'll get it, i never really "mastered" anything but i'll put this:

mastered: Kirby, Pikachu
Mastering: Pit (awesome moves of awesomeness) Tails (if he's in it which i bet he will be) Sonic
friend code: Wolf-1020

[tgva8889]

Tails (if he's in it which i bet he will be)

Sorry to burst your bubble, but he's not. The official character lists have been found many times, and Tails isn't on them.

[Doihaveaname?]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but he's not. The official character lists have been found many times, and Tails isn't on them.

Tails isn't even an Assist Trophy as he has a cameo on the Green Hill Zone stage.

[Ronsian]

I too want to experience Subspace Emissary, but I'm too hungry for it. I've seen some of the videos, and they ARE AWESOME. It's just plain and simple, Awesome. I think they want most of the characters to be easily unlockable, so it won't be too spoiled in online play. Plus, getting Game and Watch was a PAIN. 1000 something vs matches, or Classic and Adventure as every character. Very mean, and I didn't like him that much.

[pyrefiend]

Plus, getting Game and Watch was a PAIN. 1000 something vs matches, or Classic and Adventure as every character. Very mean, and I didn't like him that much.
Alternatively, you can just beat break the targets as every other character.

[obvious pun]

FALCON PUNCH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw&eurl=http://syndicated.livejournal.com/vgc/29311.html)

After watching that, I now have that tingly feeling that I want to play as him.

SOLELY BECAUSE OF THAT CLIP

I think ANYONE who watches that will want to play as him. Also, the parodies of that video are just as great[/watches cell/random shounen antagonists from unknown to me series get obliterated by falcon punch]

Also, unrelated to the above, I have decided to stop watching the subspace emissary, right after the marth part. Nothings been spoiled for me that hasn't from earlier movies though, except the level designs and one of the boss battles.

[The Linker]

I just noticed something interesting... in Melee, if you get hit away and sent flying, you're "tagged" by the person that hit you, so that person will get the kill if you die without getting back to the stage. If anyone else does damage to you as you're trying to come back, then THEY get the point if you die. However, landing back on the stage resets the "tagging," so if you come back, walk around on the stage, and then jump off, it's a suicide. You lose a point, that's it. Right?

Now, watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGEXUEdQvKg At around 2:34, Mario leaps to his doom trying to attack someone, and gets stuck under the stage and dies. No one hit him during the process. But, Pikachu gets the point! Why? Pikachu hit him with a weak little electric attack, like, 10 seconds before ToD!*

And, after watching the video further, the same thing happens at the very end, with Zelda. (causing her to win, actually. :smalltongue: ) Certainly didn't seem like Mario's death was caused by Zelda in any way.

Maybe the "tag" will go away after a few more seconds of being on land... whatever the case, I kinda like this. More points! Woo-hoo!

*Time of Death for those who don't watch dem forensics shows. :smalltongue:

[Geno9999]

I think ANYONE who watches that will want to play as him. Also, the parodies of that video are just as great[/watches cell/random shounen antagonists from unknown to me series get obliterated by falcon punch]
O.o dude, did he like, blow up an entire galaxy? That explosion can be seen for light years!lol n00bs getting a beating. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buuF3P9aLAg)

[Parvum]

Time to face it... No Mewtwo in Brawl!!!

NEVER. I WILL BUY THE GAME, I WILL BEAT THE GAME, AND I WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON MEWTO.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, HE'S JUST REALLY HARD TO GET. WE REFUSE YOUR LOGIC.

All of my taunt phrases will be set to "FOR MEWTO!", in memory of the only not-clone that didn't make the cut. I'm sure everyone was raving that clone movesets be completely unchanged and that they even bring in a new version of an existing clone.

Surprise, mewto was my mastered, along with Zelda/Sheik and bowser just because. I can't wait to learn the inticacies of Olimar (verdict: guilty! Sentence: Pikmin!) Pit (gliding, midweight, and some built in pew-pew) Lucario (if you do not satisfy the mewto-shaped void, the death will be neither swift nor pleasant) and R.O.B.(...what the hell?).
I will abduct a Nintendo employee, beat them senseless for removing mewto, then give them a pat on the back and a cookie for Olimar

[The Linker]

If you do that, then I'll be sure to reserve one of my phrases for 'It's spelled MEWTWO!' Because it seems like it'll be coming up a lot. :smalltongue: :smallwink:

[Rogue 7]

...Why? Mewtwo was horrible. I personally don't care about his loss very much. Lucario's basically the same thing, but it really makes no difference. Why complain so much?

Saying that, I am LOVING both the Golden Sun stuff and Toon Link's stage. Windwaker music is awesome.

[The Linker]

I don't get how everyone says Lucario's the same as Mewtwo. Does Lucario have psychic powers? I think not! Did mewtwo have an ability to cling to walls? No! The ONE thing we've clearly seen them having in common is the shadow ball-esque attack. Lucario looks much more focused on hand-to-hand combat, being the (I believe) fighting type pokemon that he is.

I didn't like Mewtwo's combat effectiveness as much as his style and uniqueness. The way he mentally controlled items, his dash-attack-with-a-bludgeoning-weapon, his forward throw... all kinds of cool stuff. I'll miss him, but I'll just have to move on and pray that his SSE encounter is as awesome as he deserves. :smallbiggrin:

[tgva8889]

Samus and Zero Suit Samus can switch between each other at will? That can't be right. But Samus can switch to ZSS whenever you want. At least, that's what I took from that description of ZSS's Final Smash that the Dojo gave. Go check it out. Now.

Oh, and there's some Subspace Emissary stuff. Just some talk about how the story is set up. And a small video preview, for anyone who wants to see it.

[Doihaveaname?]

Here are the lyrics and English translation of the main theme:


Latin
Audi famam illius.
Solus in hostes ruit et patriam servavit.
Audi famam illius.
Cucurrit quaeque tetigit destruens.
Audi famam illius.
Audi famam illius.
Spes omnibus, mihi quoque.
Terror omnibus, mihi quoque.
Ille iuxta me.
Ille iuxta me.
Socii sunt mihi.
Qui olim viri fortes rivalesque erant.
Saeve certando pugnandoque sprendor crescit.

English
I have heard of his rumor.
He alone rushed into his enemies and saved his homeland.
I have heard of his rumor.
He ran across the lands and everything he touched was destroyed.
I have heard of his rumor.
I have heard of his rumor.
He gave everyone hope, as he gave me.
He gave everyone fear, as he gave me.
He is now next to me.
He is now next to me.
My allies are with me.
My allies, who were once heroes and old enemies, are here.
As they fiercely competed and battled their splendor grew.

[Mando Knight]

Does Lucario have psychic powers? I think not!

Try... Yes. Lucario indeed has some psychic capabilities, and is actually slightly more suited for combat using psycho-kinetic attacks such as Psychic, Shadow Ball, and his signature Aura Sphere rather than physical combat through punches and kicks.

We want Mewtwo because of his sheer uber-ness everywhere but in Smash. He is supposed to be a Pokemon demigod of sorts forged from a fossil of Mew. If you want to see how he should have been able to fight, go find a copy of the 1st Pokemon movie. He deflects Hyper Beams without flinching, blocks all kinds of physical attacks while the opponent is several feet away, and can pick up enemies from a distance and throw them much farther.

Apparently, you can only use the Samus --> ZSS trick as Power Suit Samus. Oh, well...

[obvious pun]

I think the reason they took Mewtwo out is because in melee, he was so weak, in comparison to his appearances in the games and the movie. So they had two choices.
1. Make Mewtwo all powerful like he was, thus making him the only sane choice for a match, lest you be bested by the person who IS playing Mewtwo.
2. Replace him.
Obviously, they chose option 2.
They couldn't make him a subspace emissary boss, 'cause, you remember the first movie? And how he became good in the end? You know, right after Ash gets revived? And I've never really seen Mewtwo do anything evil in the games, aside from having a base happiness of 0, which just makes it cold and distant, not evil.

So no Mewtwo. At least Lucario is awesome enough to make up for it. I mean, he got his own movie, too, ya know.

Edit: Also, this transform into ZSS anytime thing is just another reason Samus is awesome. Also, her forward B (missile) now has the super missles look more distinctive than regular missiles. Again, awesome.

[The Linker]

Lucario DOES have psychic powers? Crap, didn't know that. I apologize. :smallfrown:

Still, I think there's more than those two options for Mewtwo (make him all-powerful or take him out). There's a middle ground, right? Make him MORE powerful than before, but not game-breaking.

They could easily come up with a reason for Mewtwo to be a boss, I think -- perhaps Lucario accidentally stumbles across Mewtwo's forest hideout, where he's keeping all his clones. Mewtwo rushes to his clones' defense, striking out at Lucario before the canine pokemon has a chance to explain. I mean, we all know the ratio of "People Mewtwo has met" to "People who want to cause Mewtwo harm" is pretty low. :smalltongue: Epic psychic vs. psychic duel, Lucario wins and explains who he is and what he's doing, they resolve their differences, Mewtwo helps Lucario proceed in some way out of respect (teleports him where he wants to go, perhaps), end of awesome encounter. I'm sure you've spotted many holes in this plan, but this is only one theory -- if they put their mind to it, they can find any number of explanations for this battle.

Sure, maybe he won't be a boss. Maybe Mewtwo truly will just disappear from the Smash universe altogether. Stranger things have happened. But you can't deny that Lucario vs. Mewtwo would be a duel of epic proportions. :smallbiggrin: Imagine that in a MOVIE...?

[obvious pun]

As you said, I have found more holes in that idea than I have in freshly "used" bubble wrap *pops another bubble*. A battle of epic proportions between them you say? I can see it now...

Lucario uses Aura Sphere.
It's not very effective...
Mewtwo uses Aura Sphere.
It's Super Effective!
Lucario uses Gameshark.
Lucario transforms into Arseus!
It's Super Effective!
Lucario's health is fully restored.
Mewtwo faints.
Mewtwo is revived by the effects of Action Replay Device.
Mewtwo uses Hyper Beam.
Mewtwo uses Frenzy Plant.
Mewtwo uses Blast Burn.
Mewtwo uses Hydro Cannon.
Lucario faints.
Mewtwo gains 999999999 exp.

Wild Pokemon Trainer appeared!...

Anyway, the point is, Mewtwo isn't in brawl. His secret unlocking code might be found in April's issue of whatever gaming magazine you read, but that's about it.

And just in case you don't get it, I'm referring to how they always have April fools day codes in the April edition of every gaming magazine. Just in case.

[Doihaveaname?]

Lucario is a fighting/steel stype. Aura Sphere is a fighting type move. It's like a blast of Ki energy. It is NOT psychic. In the games he can only learn Rest, Calm Mind, Agility and (as a TM) Psychic. That's only one move and hardly constitutes Lucario as being "psychic".

Diamond and Pearl brought the special/physical split. Now every type has special or physical moves, such as Psychic having Zen Headbutt and Fighting having Aura Sphere.

Lucario learns more physical moves than special moves.

[Mando Knight]

However, Lucario's special attack is far above par, his defensive typing is good against a lot of different enemies, and his notable special attack moves are all high damage, 100% hit ratio (except for Aura Sphere, that's a guaranteed hit against anything other than a Ghost). He's got rare and powerful moves... he's one of two non-legendaries that can learn Aura Sphere, one of a mere handful that can learn Dragon Pulse by level-up, and the ever-popular Psychic is the definitive Psychic move... and the only one I've got on my Alakazam or my Mewtwo... and can actually learn almost the same moveset as what I'm going to put on Mewtwo: Aura Sphere, Psychic, Shadow Ball, and an extra move...

Also, his Pokedex text states that he has the ability to read minds through the auras... seems to me to be an application of psychic powers through his aura abilities...

Lucario is basically a non-uber Mewtwo... who can be bred and stuff into an army thanks to Ditto...

Anyways, crazy idea: What if there will be super-secret character updates through the same servers that allow Nintendo to send players new level data? It could cost a lot of Wii memory to have a lot of downloaded characters, but that's what SD cards are for...

[Doihaveaname?]

Anyways, crazy idea: What if there will be super-secret character updates through the same servers that allow Nintendo to send players new level data? It could cost a lot of Wii memory to have a lot of downloaded characters, but that's what SD cards are for...

Won't happen. This is Nintendo we're talking about they won't do something so major if not everyone can get it. Even if most people have the internet they won't do it. The characters would also have to be originally on the disc, the unused characters on the disc are basically just empty folders with a tiny bit of code in them, no textures or models. If anything they'll release an expansion disc, but this is Nintendo. They probably won't do it, I also doubt Sakurai would want to carry on after years of making the game to carry on making it for an extra few years.

[tgva8889]

However, Lucario's special attack is far above par, his defensive typing is good against a lot of different enemies, and his notable special attack moves are all high damage, 100% hit ratio (except for Aura Sphere, that's a guaranteed hit against anything other than a Ghost). He's got rare and powerful moves... he's one of two non-legendaries that can learn Aura Sphere, one of a mere handful that can learn Dragon Pulse by level-up, and the ever-popular Psychic is the definitive Psychic move... and the only one I've got on my Alakazam or my Mewtwo... and can actually learn almost the same moveset as what I'm going to put on Mewtwo: Aura Sphere, Psychic, Shadow Ball, and an extra move...

Also, his Pokedex text states that he has the ability to read minds through the auras... seems to me to be an application of psychic powers through his aura abilities...

Lucario is basically a non-uber Mewtwo... who can be bred and stuff into an army thanks to Ditto...

Anyways, crazy idea: What if there will be super-secret character updates through the same servers that allow Nintendo to send players new level data? It could cost a lot of Wii memory to have a lot of downloaded characters, but that's what SD cards are for...

I would argue that Lucario is not psychic, because a) He's clearly Fighting/Steel type. Just because you can learn Psychic doesn't make you Psychic. Look at Blissey. Do you think that one is psychic? I don't. And b) auras are different than reading minds and throwing people across the room with your mind, like Mewtwo does.

His Attack is also above average. There's only about a 10 point base difference in Lucario's SpA and his Atk. His notable physical moves are also all high damage (Close Combat? Earthquake? Extremespeed?). Also...Ditto has a rare and debatably powerful move. Is he really legendary? I would have to assume not.

And no, they won't do that.

[Pteraden]

Hi everybody! I saw this on smashboards and thought it was relevent to the discussion.

Edit: Okay, hold on everyone..

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/Pteraden/sigpic13776_5.jpg

[obvious pun]

When this whole Mewtwo thing is over, what are we gonna complain about next? 'Cause, you know, that whole Bikini Island thing pretty much ended it.

[The Linker]

Hmmm...

Why don't WE get to go to Bikini island!?

Discuss.

[Hermit]

Hmmm...

Why don't WE get to go to Bikini island!?

Discuss.

MEwtwo and Bikini Island confirmed for Brawl DLC/Expansion disc. Discuss.

Seriously though, I notised this on Smashboards and thought it was interesting:
This is a description of Sakurai's speech at the GDC:

Finally, we are very pleased to present the first postmortem of a major 2008 title, Development - Super Smash Bros. Brawl by Kirby and Smash Bros. veteran developer Masahiro Sakurai. With an eye to fine-tuned balancing, Sakurai shares what worked and didn't work integrating a variety of different characters as well as online play in adapting this modern classic to the Wii. Definiitely mark this featured talk on your schedule.

So we may find out a bit about why certain characters never made it to the final version then.

[Mojotech]

Oh boy, I leave the thread for a few days and look what heppsn. Let's see...

Obvious Pun, just because a character is unbalanced in one game doesn't mean he can't be rebalanced in later ones. It wasn't as simple as two choices- don't be throwing in false dichotomies here- They could have easily boosted his power by a moderate amount. I mean, they're not THAT shackled by relative power levels, or at all.
In short, "But he sucked in Melee!" Is no excuse for him to be back in. It was likely it happened because the executives thought Lucario would be more recognizable than Mewtwo.

Also, Lucario Isn't Psychic- Keep in mind ESP and Ki are considered different things. One uses the power of the mind, the other uses wierd Feng-shui stuff. Similiar effects, different sources... Different Types. (Remember, Solarbeam, Hyper Beam, and Aurora Beam are all Beams, but they have different sources and thus different types. Same principle.)

Third, this might just be a baseless rumor, but word is after digging through the files apparently people have found almost incomplete character data for various left-out characters, Mewtwo included. Namely the model data without things like anchoring it to a motion frame or anything like that. In short in it's current state it's unusable. However, they're almost the same size as other character datas, and it seems it would takepatches of minimal size (and rather, simply access to the proprietary software and the SSBB online servers or lack thereof) to patch them. Possibly just a few blocks per character as enabling bytes.
Of course, "Dummying" like this isn't unheard of, and chances are low nintendo aren't going to do anything with the data, but it would be cool if they did. I'd pay 5$ for a patch to let me play as Mewtwo in Brawl.

[The Linker]

I dunno if I'd pay 5$ for one character... I probably would eventually, after being worn down. :smalltongue: But I like the idea. This is intriguing, to say the least...

Edit to avoid double post: Heh, six years of Melee and still nothing's changed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB_mnh8c53M&feature=related) Pro matches still consist of Fox vs. Marth on Final Destination. :smalltongue:

Of course, it's much more entertaining to watch now, with the climactic music to truly set the mood of two pros clashing in an epic battle. However, I think they're still used to Melee; several times they both seem to randomly air dodge up... I suspect as a failed wavedash. :smallbiggrin:

[Cynan Machae]

Players are so trying to play Melee 2.0 that they use same characters and playstyle :P Let a few months go and a new trends in characters and gaming style will emerge :smallcool:

[Ronsian]

Something I just saw about Subspace Emissary. http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=912963

"I myself did not expect the game to last this long, and it took over 8 hours to complete this mode, and that was only at 82%. This is because there are things to unlock still, even after completing the game.", a quote from Thunderbolt, which gave the game a 10/10. So, I'm guessing in the ballpark of 8 hours (the guy might have done it really fast). I like that, I'll have a blast playing it and probably go back and do it a few more times.

[Jibar]

Yo peeps.
Thought I'd mention a little something we'd been wondering about.
Kirby doesn't pull up Pikmin when he eats Olimar.
Instead, he gets Pikmin Throw, but with random Pikmin.
He also grows a giant nose and gets Olimar's antennae.
Finally, we know.

[The Linker]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=912963

What the hey? SONIC's final smash is the coolest!? He turns a different color and flies around, ramming into people! PAH! Coolest indeed. Bowser, Mario, Samus, Diddy, Lucario -- I find Sonic's to be one of the LEAST cool, actually. Maybe just over DK's. :smalltongue:

[Rutee]

Brawl Theme = Epic (http://smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=3869580&postcount=30)

[obvious pun]

All new kirby hats ('cept Dedede)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHxyUmLD4L8

[Icewalker]

Hehe, I like the little wings on the Charizard hat. Also, Captain Falcon Kirby and Wolf Kirby look awesome.


I like the Metaknight vs. Marth video. Metaknight is also awesome.

[Mando Knight]

I'd like the Latin lyrics for Fire Emblem's theme...

[Dumbledore lives]

Wario Kirby's move is awesome, he is pretty much trying to bite the guy's head off, it just looks so random. I don't think Wario actually has that move and Olimar Kirby is beyond awesome.

On that note, the mushroomy kingdom stage is awesome.

[obvious pun]

Wario Kirby's move is awesome, he is pretty much trying to bite the guy's head off, it just looks so random. I don't think Wario actually has that move *snip*.

Okay, one, go check the dojo, and check Wario's b moves. What is his standard b move called? Chomp. Two, why would Kirby do it if Wario didn't?

So yeah, big ol' hole in that theory there.

[The Linker]

They actually already had a Kirby hat video on Gametrailers, and had Dedede, but was missing pretty much all the secret characters. So, yours wins. :smalltongue:

I had to laugh out loud when I heard ROB Kirby trying to imitate ROB's noises. 'EEEEEEE! EEEEEEE! EEEEEEE!' Hee hee!

I noticed the first stage was an unannounced Melee stage, Jungle Japes. This brings hope to my eyes for more of my favorite stages... perhaps Princess Peach's castle! And Mushroom Kingdom! And Kingdom 2 -- man, what's with me and Mario stages?

And Poke Floats! Gotta have Poke Floats. And Big Blue! That was awesome. That's... that's about it.

[tgva8889]

They actually already had a Kirby hat video on Gametrailers, and had Dedede, but was missing pretty much all the secret characters. So, yours wins. :smalltongue:

I had to laugh out loud when I heard ROB Kirby trying to imitate ROB's noises. 'EEEEEEE! EEEEEEE! EEEEEEE!' Hee hee!

Does anyone else think that Kirby sounds funny imitating the grunt Ganondorf does with Warlock Punch? It's just so...cute!

Kirby is such a great character.

Did you notice how Wolf's blaster shot seemed slower and larger? Is Wolf a slower and stronger Fox? Hmm. If he is...that might be interesting. I might want to try that.

And in response to whoever commented about the "people trying to play Melee 2.0", yeah, I think that's what most people would do. From an outsider's point of view, the game hasn't changed that much. Lucario replaces Mewtwo, and there's no clones, but besides that, I think every other character has returned. Sure, there's new characters and stuff, but all the old stuff is there and, besides Final Smashes, which aren't that hard to get used to I can imagine, nothing major has changed. When we went to Melee, everyone got a new special move. That seems much more major than the Final Smashes. Thus, I imaging people will be trying to play Brawl as Melee 2.0 for a while. However, eventually people will start realizing that, for example, Olimar is really, really good and start winning with him.

[Dumbledore lives]

Okay, one, go check the dojo, and check Wario's b moves. What is his standard b move called? Chomp. Two, why would Kirby do it if Wario didn't?

So yeah, big ol' hole in that theory there.

Yeah My mistake there, I just wasn't paying attention

[Jibar]

Okay, something I've been wondering about that Kirby video brought up.
How does Sonic's Homing Attack work?
On ground, it seems to just float into the air then attack the nearest person.
If Sonic is already in the air, will it go a lot quicker?
I've seen tons of videos of Sonic, just none where his homing attack comes in.

That video did also help assure me that Wolf is going to be different to Falco and Fox, which makes me happy.

[Pteraden]

Speaking of Wolf, here's a video about what NOT to do with Wolf's final smash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezpgf0fE8U

[Geno9999]

Dude, that was funny! So now the only true clone is Toon Link, and he plays more like young Link with a Down Air move that has him dropping like a rock!
Now in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q46MR-kZEM0&feature=user) , Mr. Game & Watch also has the "sheer drop attack move" unless that's the play pushing down, alot.

[UglyPanda]

These are my impressions of the game from the couple of days I was playing with friends on his imported copy. Bear in mind, I'm the worst player out of my group of friends:
-Marth is still just as good, and many of his combos work just as well if not better. Sigh.
-Without washdashing, Luigi is still viable (But probably still low tier), but not as fun. I feel like a low-rent falcon when I play him now.
-Peach plays pretty much the same except you can't crouch-cancel into the down-smash unless you mess around with your controller settings.
-Falcon's knee is more powerful, but harder to hit with, so it's no longer his best move. This has made some people I know upset because their main strategy with him is: "Never stop kneeing".
-Bowser is still fun, but now he's better. I still suck with him and didn't get any kills in a free-for-all despite getting his final smash a few times.

Okay, something I've been wondering about that Kirby video brought up.
How does Sonic's Homing Attack work?
On ground, it seems to just float into the air then attack the nearest person.
If Sonic is already in the air, will it go a lot quicker?
I've seen tons of videos of Sonic, just none where his homing attack comes in.

That video did also help assure me that Wolf is going to be different to Falco and Fox, which makes me happy.
You have to charge it up a little, even when it's in the air. He doesn't go higher when he charges it in the air, I think. It doesn't go too far either, and it homes weird if you're below the plane of the stage (In other words, into a wall). A bunch of his moves have start-up time or lag, which means he isn't really the fastest there is when it comes to attacking. His running speed is insane though.

Why does everyone miss Mewtwo? I miss Roy. He was like Marth, but bad. He was wonderful to play as.

[Obrysii]

Why does everyone miss Mewtwo?

He had such a weird control style. I liked him.

[obvious pun]

Why does everyone miss Mewtwo?

We just had this conversation not to long ago. We're not having it again.

[The Linker]

Speaking of Wolf, here's a video about what NOT to do with Wolf's final smash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezpgf0fE8U

Heh, I SO saw that coming. That spot has claimed many a self-destruct. :smallamused:

FYI, if you're Pikachu and you do a Thunder attack (down-B) on that spot, you WILL die. Absolutely unavoidable. Which sucks. SUCKS! I lost an important match because of that.

But I still love that stage. :smallbiggrin:

[UglyPanda]

We just had this conversation not to long ago. We're not having it again.

I didn't want to restart the conversation, I'm just confused as to why there isn't a similar lament for Doc, Pichu, or Roy. Ike isn't a clone of Roy, he's incredibly different. Doc and Pichu have no equivalents. I liked playing those three characters, but it seems there is no love for the fun clones.

[Pteraden]

That video did also help assure me that Wolf is going to be different to Falco and Fox, which makes me happy.

Well, Falco is also..less of a clone of Fox. He like, kicks his reflector. It's weird.

Videro Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpBrpf2khI

[tgva8889]

Doc and Pichu have no equivalents. I liked playing those three characters, but it seems there is no love for the fun clones.

I wouldn't claim that any clone does not have an equivalent. Mario, meet the Doc. Pichu, meet Pikachu. Look, it's your equivalent. Thus why they're called clones.

Because they're not fun, they're clones. I'd rather have completely different characters, which is why Wolf, Falco, and Ganondorf piss me off so much. Can't you give them alternate move sets or at the very least pick different characters? Is Falco really more popular than Krystal? Come on.

Also, the Doc, Pichu, and Roy are not nearly as iconic as any of the other characters in Smash (except possibly Lucas and ROB, but that depends on who you are). If I were to pick people to cut, I'd pick them.

[Swordlol]

I didn't want to restart the conversation, I'm just confused as to why there isn't a similar lament for Doc, Pichu, or Roy. Ike isn't a clone of Roy, he's incredibly different. Doc and Pichu have no equivalents. I liked playing those three characters, but it seems there is no love for the fun clones.

I know no one who liked playing Doc, choose playing Doc, nor even think Doc exists anymore.