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prongs43
2008-06-21, 06:06 PM
I just saw Kung Fu Panda the other day, and I have to say it was a really good movie. I thought it was going to be more of a spoof movie, but it was able to be funny and serious at the same time. The turtle Oogway was definately my favorite character. He had some nice quotes, such as "Yesterday's history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That's why they call it the present." Big Movie Spoiler: The saddest part was when Oogway died, but it was still a beautiful scene. No matter how old or young you are, I highly advise going to see it.

ArmorArmadillo
2008-06-21, 06:20 PM
"Yesterday's history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That's why they call it the present."

I'm sorry, but this is perhaps the worst line in the entire movie, and it's the kind of thing that's an utter mockery of zen.

Anywho, there's one significant problem with the movie in that Po is lazy, untalented, and fat, yet becomes the great legendary dragon warrior becomes he believes in himself. Really, that's a horrible message. You should become great through hard-work and dedication, like all the other dragon warriors.

Green-Shirt Q
2008-06-21, 06:56 PM
I enjoyed the movie. I do not think that Oogway's line is a mockery of zen, being a buddhist and a martial artist myself. I believe that that is a great line and I have always said it even before I saw the movie. It is a great and well known philosophy.

I also believe that the message the movie sends is an addequate messaage. Po becomes dedicated to change his life for the better through exercise, which is a great message, but is slightly tainted since we do not see the effect this could potentially have on his life, which is make his healthy and moderatly thin. If we saw him years later but healthy, the message would be complete. You just have to assume.

I will also advertise the movie. It is an extremly well done movie. My only criticism would be the many times they zoomed in on Po's butt, which was tolerable since it was in small doses, but it would have been a better movie if they didn't do it at all.

4 stars.

hanzo66
2008-06-21, 09:46 PM
Had fun with the movie personally.

Hawriel
2008-06-21, 10:28 PM
The Q.

I agree however you seem to say that being over weight is wrong. Being unhealthy is not a good idea but its not wrong. Also Po being a panda bear is not exactly an animal that is known for having lean muscles. Last year I went to my friends black belt test for Tung Su Do (forgive me if I misspellled that). He is not a well toned mechine. Yet at the end of the day he was a black belt. There where quite afew peaple who you may consider over weight taking the test and passing. Being big does not matter being healthy is. If your a jolly fat boy then so be it. Because being happy with who you are does alot more for your health than eating nothing but a "healthy diet" or exersizing constantly.

The message of the movie was believe in your self, love the person you are. If you do, then you can acheave your goals in life. Also if there are things you dont like about yourself you can change them. The seed will still grow to be a peach tree but you deside whare it grows. :smallbiggrin: In the end Po went back to help his father with the noodle hut. Well thats what it looked like to me. Why would he do this? Because Po loves food. Not just when hes upset. He likes to share it with others and see them having a good meal. Besides who said a kung fu master has to be some stoggy guy sitting on top of a mountan. He can be appart of the communety living among peaple. Honestly I think thats why the five where, for the most part, jack asses. They where arogent, spiteful, and totaly went against Oogways teachings in how they treated Po. Tygres imparticular.

yeah the pressent line was totaly cheesy. Its a line Ive heard afew times befor. But what the hell it fit, its a kids show, and its true. If I ever make a martal arts character for an RPG Im totaly going to moddle it off of Oogway. He was my favorite character.

Kojiro Kakita
2008-06-22, 02:18 AM
it also helps viewing it as a parody of most martial art movies. The idea of the one supreme warrior (who doesn't look like one) is very common. Look at kung-fu Hustle for an example

More importantly, what will the chinese think of this movie.

Green-Shirt Q
2008-06-22, 07:10 AM
Hawriel.

I completly agree with your statment that being fat isn't wrong. Heck, I myself am overweight.

I was simpily saying that perhaps it may send a better message to the kids if Po became a muscular superman due to his kung fu training, so that it may show how exercise is important.

Of course, your statment is also valid. Po would probably not be happy being thin. And of course, the giant panda build isn't something he could probably change even if he wanted to. Giant pandas need to eat a lot to survive and they don't call them "giant" pandas for nothing, so your statment probably means more then mine.

hamishspence
2008-06-22, 07:51 AM
in a British TV series; Happiness: one of the characters was the voice of a "kung fu nurse bear" So when I saw the poster I thought That looks very familiar. Not see movie yet though.

The Vorpal Tribble
2008-06-22, 07:52 AM
I'm neither buddist nor a martial artist and I loved this movie. Generally these cartoon movies are 'really' stupid, and not even in a funny way. This broke that mold.

I about keeled over when he 'released' the souls of the entire Tenshu Army!

'Whooooa!' :smallbiggrin:

Pocketa
2008-06-22, 11:51 PM
I'm neither buddist nor a martial artist and I loved this movie. Generally these cartoon movies are 'really' stupid, and not even in a funny way. This broke that mold.

I about keeled over when he 'released' the souls of the entire Tenshu Army!

'Whooooa!' :smallbiggrin:

Edit for spoilers, please...

Avilan the Grey
2008-06-23, 12:53 AM
it also helps viewing it as a parody of most martial art movies. The idea of the one supreme warrior (who doesn't look like one) is very common. Look at kung-fu Hustle for an example

More importantly, what will the chinese think of this movie.

I agree. This movie felt like a kung-fu movie first, cartoon second.
(I would have picked Drunken Master and not Kung-fu Hustle as your example, but they both work nicely :smallsmile: )

Lord_Asmodeus
2008-06-23, 01:05 AM
I enjoyed the movie immensely, and Oogways quote was deep, but in a fun and open way (like it should be in any such upbeat cartoon) and I thought they would do more with the
Tigress becoming more like Tai Lung because of her obsession with being the Dragon Warrior and proving herself to Master Shifu thing

The Vorpal Tribble
2008-06-23, 07:43 AM
Edit for spoilers, please...
It was about a 5 second clip with no relevance to the plot or basically anything in the movie.

The several time mention of ole Pan being the Dragon Master is much more of a spoiler.

Shatteredtower
2008-06-23, 04:29 PM
I'm sorry, but this is perhaps the worst line in the entire movie, and it's the kind of thing that's an utter mockery of zen.You can't mock zen. I don't mean you shouldn't; I mean you can't.

Besides, that wasn't zen. That was dao. No, really, no pun intended.


Anywho, there's one significant problem with the movie in that Po is lazy...Wrong, as his father would tell you. Let's not forget how early he got started on his first day of training.


...untalented...Very wrong, as anyone who ate his cooking would tell you. The rest was just a matter of applying focus to a fantasy.


...and fatNot for a panda.


...yet becomes the great legendary dragon warrior becomes he believes in himself.Well, no, that's not right either, but that's a very common misinterpretation of the mystery behind the koan.


Really, that's a horrible message. You should become great through hard-work and dedication, like all the other dragon warriors....What other dragon warriors? Neither Shifu nor the Furious Five nor Tai Lung were dragon warriors. Hard work and dedication, virtues that they may be, can not make one a dragon warrior. They can even be obstacles, as proven by:

Tai Lung, brought low by the desire to be the best. By nearly every materialist measure, he was the best. Twenty years chained to one spot did nothing to diminish his skills -- if anything, he'd spent the entire time mastering the very techniques that had subdued him in the first place. He was cunning, resourceful, single-minded, and relentless in pursuit of one goal.

But he could accept nothing less than his desire, which is not a virtue by Buddhist standards. Po, on the other hand, was Po. I don't properly understand what that means, but he did.

That's why he's the master, and I'm not. :smallamused:

kpenguin
2008-06-23, 04:54 PM
It was about a 5 second clip with no relevance to the plot or basically anything in the movie.

As Horton the Elephant would put it: "a spoiler's a spoiler no matter how small"

Shatteredtower
2008-06-23, 11:41 PM
As Horton the Elephant would put it: "a spoiler's a spoiler no matter how small"Oh, come on. Vorple Tribble mentioned something about a brief scene that has no bearing on the plot in such a way that, unless you've seen it, won't mean anything. He said it was funny, but if you didn't see it, you won't know why.

It means as much as telling you that the word "existentialism" was used to amusing effect in Get Smart. It means less than telling someone that James Hong provided the voice for Po's father. It was a welcome surprise that I hadn't known before I went to see the film, but knowing that beforehand couldn't have ruined my enjoyment of the picture.

So seriously, "Whoaaaa!" :smallwink:

Pandaren
2008-06-23, 11:46 PM
When I saw the previews for this movie I honestly flinched..... I mean it could be a good movie but my ego feels kind of bad..

*cringe*

kpenguin
2008-06-25, 03:36 PM
Oh, come on. Vorple Tribble mentioned something about a brief scene that has no bearing on the plot in such a way that, unless you've seen it, won't mean anything. He said it was funny, but if you didn't see it, you won't know why.

It means as much as telling you that the word "existentialism" was used to amusing effect in Get Smart. It means less than telling someone that James Hong provided the voice for Po's father. It was a welcome surprise that I hadn't known before I went to see the film, but knowing that beforehand couldn't have ruined my enjoyment of the picture.

So seriously, "Whoaaaa!" :smallwink:

It was a joke... in poor taste apparently. Perhaps I should have added a "
:smalltongue:" at the end.

Shatteredtower
2008-07-01, 04:01 PM
It was a joke... in poor taste apparently. Perhaps I should have added a "
:smalltongue:" at the end.Nah. It was a good joke. I was just running brain-slow, apparently. :smallsigh: